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"Sorry, INXS, Words are NOT Weapons" (Friday, March 13, 2026, Hour 4) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 4: No they don't.
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  Speaker 2: People make lemonade out of lemons. I'm sorry, I just
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  Speaker 2: make lemonade, or people make lemonade out of lemons by
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  Speaker 2: with us and let us know how it is impacting
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  Speaker 2: you where you are, and will lay it all out
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  Speaker 2: trying to go out the back and trying to ban
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  Speaker 2: constitutionally protected activities. Number one indicates that the authoritarians have
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  Speaker 2: United States and Israel took against Iran. Fifty nine percent
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  Speaker 2: House Freedom Caucus, Bob Good, hosts now of the Good
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  Speaker 2: for America podcasts. We were talking about around right before
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  Speaker 2: and I wanted to get your thought on this. Bob,
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  Speaker 2: Sorry from earlier in the week, ports coming out earlier
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  Speaker 2: in the week that the Ayatola and the Council of
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  Speaker 2: Experts and the whole hierarchy of the government is still there.
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  Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, I haven't seen all these protesters, These
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  Speaker 2: protesters that were in the streets and the hundreds of
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  Speaker 2: thousands have apparently disappeared or had no decided after the fact,
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  Speaker 2: they had no interest. I had a listener asked me
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  Speaker 2: if they weren't a psyop and that, you know, were
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  Speaker 2: they you know, were they really there just trying to
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  Speaker 2: draw us into a conflict that there was no you know,
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  Speaker 2: support for on the streets. What where is the next
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  Speaker 2: week's worth of effort going to need to be placed
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  Speaker 2: in Iran, Bob, It's.
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  Speaker 5: It's hard not to believe that we're closer to the
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  Speaker 5: beginning than we are to the end.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Rand does not have the ability to defend
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  Speaker 5: itself from US and Israeli attacks, but they do have
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  Speaker 5: the ability to cause harm, to cause pain, to cause suffering,
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  Speaker 5: to prolong the conflict, if you will, and to delay largely, delayed,
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  Speaker 5: significantly delay any kind of resolution in a way that
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  Speaker 5: you know would be a peaceful resolution, if you will,
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  Speaker 5: or the establishment of something other than a hostile regime.
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  Speaker 5: All the leaders that this assembly of experts, this eighty
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  Speaker 5: eight person I don't how many are still alive, but
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  Speaker 5: this eighty eight person assembly of the experts whose tasked
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  Speaker 5: with choosing the next leader, which apparently has chosen the
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  Speaker 5: son of the now deceased recent Ayahtola, although he hasn't
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  Speaker 5: appeared in person. He hasn't appeared in person yet they
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  Speaker 5: put out supposedly a written statement. There's reports that he's
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  Speaker 5: been wounded severely, and it's ironic that he's been chosen,
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  Speaker 5: which is hereditary in its nature, when that was one
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  Speaker 5: of the things they condemned about the Shaw, the previous
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  Speaker 5: Shaw and the shaw son who's in exile here. That's
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  Speaker 5: supposed to be contrary to this theistic religious government to
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  Speaker 5: choose someone based on the fact that they're the son
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  Speaker 5: of the ruler. But that's what they've apparently done. But
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  Speaker 5: I think this conflict is going to go on for
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  Speaker 5: a while. And what I am concerned about is the.
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  Speaker 7: Seeming changing.
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  Speaker 5: Justification for the attack and seeming endless changes to what
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  Speaker 5: will look like victory or success or the end.
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  Speaker 3: Of this war.
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  Speaker 2: And those last question for you on the subject of
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  Speaker 2: prolonged engagements. The government DHS shut down. Democrats tried to
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  Speaker 2: get TSA funding broken out from it. They failed at
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  Speaker 2: that four hour wait. As TSA agents who haven't been
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  Speaker 2: paid in a month and a half are starting to
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  Speaker 2: come down with what we used to call in New
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  Speaker 2: York City the blue flu. Yeah, I can't make it
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  Speaker 2: into today, so huge shorthanded situations at TSA. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I still say, how is this the time to have
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  Speaker 2: the Department of Homeland Security agree or disagree that it
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  Speaker 2: should exist? Shut down, Bob or at least running with
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  Speaker 2: one hand hide behind its back.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're four weeks into this, and there is impact
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  Speaker 5: beyond ice and border patrol, the parts that Democrats don't
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  Speaker 5: want to find, which is already funded under Trump's big
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  Speaker 5: bill last summer.
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  Speaker 7: But you've got FEMA, you've.
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  Speaker 5: Got TSA, you've got Coast Guard, You've got other pieces
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  Speaker 5: of this department that are not funded four weeks in. However,
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  Speaker 5: these federal workers ought to have to work, and there
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  Speaker 5: ought to be consequences of them not coming to work.
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  Speaker 7: That's part of the deal.
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  Speaker 5: When you sign on and take a government job, a
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  Speaker 5: federal job, you know they're going to get back pay.
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  Speaker 5: It's obviously it's disruptive and it's difficult, and it's challenging
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  Speaker 5: for people to miss pay, but they shouldn't have the
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  Speaker 5: option of not showing up to work, and there ought
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  Speaker 5: to be consequence to them. This is not a strike.
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  Speaker 5: But one of the best things Ronald Reagan ever did
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  Speaker 5: was to fire the TSA air traffic controllers when they
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  Speaker 5: didn't show up to work. And you know, these folks
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  Speaker 5: ought to be required to work and all to be
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  Speaker 5: consequent that they don't come to work.
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  Speaker 2: Bob Good is on with us Good for America podcast.
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  Speaker 2: What's coming up this week? In the podcast, Bob.
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  Speaker 5: We're going to talk about these issues today. The Iran
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  Speaker 5: is conflict, the Iran War is the dominant issue.
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  Speaker 7: Of course.
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  Speaker 5: We're also going to have on Congressman Eric Burlison from Missouri,
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  Speaker 5: one of the fighters that's on the leadership team of
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  Speaker 5: the House Stream Caucus.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Bob, you have a great morning.
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  Speaker 7: Sir, great wardy, Joe, thank you, my friend, and for.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, Jo, So I look like a guy with a plan.
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  Speaker 2: high school, only to have the county school board or
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  Speaker 2: just last night, vote to take money from children. Yes, children.
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  Speaker 2: Are they going to do the same thing with the
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  Speaker 2: and Expression. Aaron, thank you for joining us. How are
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  Speaker 2: you doing this morning?
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  Speaker 7: I'm doing well with Joe, thanks for having me on.
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  Speaker 2: So you stood with the kids from Turning Point USA,
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  Speaker 2: as you have stood with Charlie Kirk almost from the
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  Speaker 2: moment Charlie Kirk announced that he was Charlie Kirk and
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  Speaker 2: starting Turning Point USA. And you guys have been part
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  Speaker 2: of this fray of fighting for free speech and free
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  Speaker 2: expression in the halls of academia, sadly the place you
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: shouldn't have to do it, but you stood with them
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  Speaker 2: last night. They were the school board in a Charlottesville
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  Speaker 2: area that makes you know, you know, Portland and San
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  Speaker 2: Francisco seem right wing by comparison. There was one voice
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  Speaker 2: against it, and he's the school board member that our
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: friends at City Elders helped get elected. So we the
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: proof that we need more folks like that. But this
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: this rules now that say, the school board takes all
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  Speaker 2: the money you raise and will decide how you use it,
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  Speaker 2: and you can't have speakers that aren't curriculal, curriculum connected
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  Speaker 2: during day and and all of these things to restrict
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  Speaker 2: these student clubs. It's a new business plan, isn't it, Aaron?
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  Speaker 2: How do we fight this?
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  Speaker 17: Yeah, it's it's not great, and it's not an isolated
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  Speaker 17: example either. We've had to deal with these types of
• 31:21
  Speaker 17: restrictions around the country, and TPUSA chapters are a pretty
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  Speaker 17: common target, although not by no means the only one.
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  Speaker 17: We also see these types of restrictions on other groups,
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  Speaker 17: like pro Palestinian groups sometimes. And yeah, we you know,
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  Speaker 17: Fire wrote a letter warning the school board that if
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  Speaker 17: it passes policy, it would be violating the First Amendment.
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  Speaker 7: And that's exactly what it did last night.
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  Speaker 17: And we made clear in our letter, you know, we
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  Speaker 17: we addressed some of the problems in the policy, but
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  Speaker 17: also added a footnote that said, this isn't even an
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  Speaker 17: exhaustive analysis of all of the constitutional flaws in this
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  Speaker 17: proposed policy. But yeah, I think two of the big
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  Speaker 17: ones that we objected to, as you mentioned, uh, the
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  Speaker 17: there's a restriction on clubs that promote or sorry, there's
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  Speaker 17: a restriction on clubs that try to host speak outside
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  Speaker 17: speakers during the day without the and that try to
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  Speaker 17: host any speakers actually without the principal's approval, you know.
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  Speaker 17: And so one one of the points we made in
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  Speaker 17: the letter is that you can have some reasonable administrative
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  Speaker 17: oversight on outside speakers, but you can't just give the
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  Speaker 17: principal complete discretion to approve or deny any request. And
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  Speaker 17: I think we know how that's probably going to work
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  Speaker 17: out with some of the speakers that that TPUSA invites.
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  Speaker 17: The school already has a history of denying them permission
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  Speaker 17: to host controversial speakers, and it only relented last fall,
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  Speaker 17: right when when it was was faced with legal threats
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  Speaker 17: from another organization. Uh, and then you have the permit, yeah, sorry,
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  Speaker 17: go ahead?
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  Speaker 2: Well no, so does that mean the gates are left
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  Speaker 2: open for legal action? Would you would you help these kids?
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  Speaker 2: I mean they're high school kids, my gosh, but you
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  Speaker 2: know if they wanted to mount a legal battle against this, Yeah.
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  Speaker 17: Well, the the I saw last night that the president
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  Speaker 17: of the tv USA chapter said that they're exploring all
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  Speaker 17: legal options. So I think a lawsuit is definitely a
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  Speaker 17: real possibility. I can't say at this point whether Fire
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  Speaker 17: will represent them because they're there. They've actually been represented
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  Speaker 17: Founding Freedom's Law Center, right, But we are in touch
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  Speaker 17: with the attorneys over there, and we remain interested in
• 33:36
  Speaker 17: this case. You said, you know, I think, I think, yeah,
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  Speaker 17: I think there will be probably be a lawsuit one
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  Speaker 17: way or the other.
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  Speaker 2: You said, this is not as as uncommon as it seems.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we see various attempts.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: My history goes all the way back to when you
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  Speaker 2: guys were fighting, uh, the collegiate free speech zones that
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  Speaker 2: were started under this greco. You know, uh, oh we
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: we we've got a special corner over here where you
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: can say whatever you want once the student council has
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  Speaker 2: approved you for saying whatever you want and and calling
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  Speaker 2: out the fraud of what this was. They's sure, you
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  Speaker 2: can call it a free speech zone, but it's not,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and it's gone since then.
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  Speaker 7: This is you.
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  Speaker 2: fighting these fires.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right. We've been doing out fires for a
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  Speaker 7: long time. Yeah, it's schools.
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  Speaker 17: School administrators unfortunately often either seem to not know what
• 34:33
  Speaker 17: the First Amendment protects or they or they just don't care.
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  Speaker 17: But you know, as we've been clear over that long
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  Speaker 17: period of time to both colleges and now also to
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  Speaker 17: K twelve and high school administrators, students have First Amendment rights.
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  Speaker 17: declared over half a century ago, students do not show
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  Speaker 17: a right to speak their minds as long you know,
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  Speaker 17: when you're talking about high school, as long as they're
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  Speaker 17: not causing a serious disruption to the school environment. And
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  Speaker 17: schools don't get to play favorites. When they allow extracurricular clubs.
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  Speaker 17: They can't discriminate against the club because of its political
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  Speaker 17: or ideological views. Doesn't matter whether you're TPUSA, Young Democrats,
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  Speaker 17: a Bible Club, a gender and Sexuality Alliance. They all
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  Speaker 17: have the same right to organize and speak and access
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  Speaker 17: school facilities and resources. But I think it's clear in
• 35:28
  Speaker 17: this case that the school is targeting and singling out TPUSA.
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  Speaker 17: They don't mention a group in the policy, but the
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  Speaker 17: policy changes were obviously I mean, there's no dispute that
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  Speaker 17: superintendent to initiate a review of the policies. So it's
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  Speaker 17: pretty obvious what's going on here.
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  Speaker 2: There's also you know, political games, you know, school board
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  Speaker 2: members that fancy themselves future senators and that kind of
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: thing play into it as well. But Aaron terror from
• 36:09
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• 36:26
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• 36:28
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• 36:33
  Speaker 2: school hours, hoping that everyone had moved on, gave up
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  Speaker 2: quit And isn't calling balls and strikes because you know
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  Speaker 2: it's going to happen at some point or are they
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  Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean that's the question, right, and we'll see
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  Speaker 17: how they enforce the policy. But you're absolutely right if
• 36:52
  Speaker 17: they allow other groups that have different views than GPUSA
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  Speaker 17: to post outside speakers.
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  Speaker 7: During the school day.
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  Speaker 17: Despite this new new rule, that's going to be evidence
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  Speaker 17: that they are engaged in viewpoint discrimination, which the First
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  Speaker 17: Amendment is it's one of the worst sins you can commit,
• 37:11
  Speaker 17: uh in First Amendment law is to treat.
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• 37:16
  Speaker 17: And I think one of the other problems with the policy,
• 37:18
  Speaker 17: uh that we mentioned in our letter is this is
• 37:21
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• 37:30
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• 37:35
  Speaker 17: be used to try and shut down.
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: The group like TPUs A right.
• 37:38
  Speaker 17: You have a board member saying they're engaged in hate speech,
• 37:41
  Speaker 17: well then that that now would make them a group
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• 37:52
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting as the last hour we were
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  Speaker 2: talking to Daniel Bucksman, the journalist who's written a book
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  Speaker 2: about the fiftieth anniversary of twenty one to twelve, and
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  Speaker 2: here we are talking with our inter from Fire about
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  Speaker 2: experience twenty one to twelve, you know they're doing it
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  Speaker 2: in a lyrical way, all the things that are playing
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  Speaker 2: out in these schools and the authoritarians on the march.
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  Speaker 2: And I appreciate you hanging out with us and talking
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  Speaker 2: about this. It is Fire dot org. They've been at
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  Speaker 2: the avant garde of this since the first time at
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  Speaker 2: university said let's have a free speech zone. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we'll have fire at the elementary school level as well. Aaron,
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  Speaker 2: what about the argument? And I've pointed to this that
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  Speaker 2: I think we've seen a fifty percent increase just in
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  Speaker 2: the Commonwealth of Virginia of families and students leaving the
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  Speaker 2: public education realm for homeschooling, micro schools, all of that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, And so that's one aspect of what's happening.
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  Speaker 2: These schools have gotten to the point where they're hemorrhaging students.
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  Speaker 2: But the other side of it is I've had listeners
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  Speaker 2: in covering this story saying, well, what gives them the
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  Speaker 2: right to demand that the school give them time to
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  Speaker 2: have a club. And you know, since there's one particular
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  Speaker 2: email that I kept aside because it says, with our
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  Speaker 2: schools failing so miserably to educate our kids, I want
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  Speaker 2: to ban on all clubs whatsoever. Get back in the
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  Speaker 2: damned classroom, you know. I guess there is an argument
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  Speaker 2: to be made that if our educational pursuits are going
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  Speaker 2: so badly, and we're falling further and further behind educating
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  Speaker 2: these kids, why should we be worried about extracurricular clubs? There?
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  Speaker 2: Have you heard some of that pushback as well?
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  Speaker 7: I hear views like that expressed sometimes.
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  Speaker 17: Yeah, but look, these are extra curricular clubs, right, so
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  Speaker 17: they're not taking students out of the classroom, are affecting
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  Speaker 17: instructional time?
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  Speaker 7: I think that's just a separate issue.
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  Speaker 17: But the bottom line is a school doesn't have to
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  Speaker 17: recognize extracurricular clubs, but if it does, it's required under
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  Speaker 17: the First Amendment and under a federal law called the
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  Speaker 17: Equal Access Act, to allow equal access to its facilities
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  Speaker 17: and use of its resources, no matter what the philosophical, religious,
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  Speaker 17: or political or ideological views of that club are. And
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  Speaker 17: so you know, the bottom line is, once you allow access,
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  Speaker 2: And I think that that's the best I wish I
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  Speaker 2: had thought of that answer, So thank you for that, Aaron.
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  Speaker 7: What what is you know?
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  Speaker 2: The future look like? It seems like we're in a
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  Speaker 2: period of doubling down where the authoritarian left has said here,
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  Speaker 2: do everything and anything at all to push the Overton
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  Speaker 2: guess I see this, you know, and it becomes logical
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: some of its gender issues, but some of it's just
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  Speaker 2: straight up individual student liberties.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right, and.
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  Speaker 17: You know, we're I do worry about the state of
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  Speaker 17: the country right now where there are threats to the
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  Speaker 17: First Amendment, I think coming from both sides of the
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  Speaker 17: political spectrum.
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  Speaker 2: Often we're huge opponents of David Carr and some of
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  Speaker 2: his statements about broadcast licenses and things like that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Trump administration, we've been wrong about it too.
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  Speaker 17: M Yeah, we've been very vocal about that, but you know,
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  Speaker 17: it just goes Another timeless truth is that censorship really
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  Speaker 17: doesn't have a political party. It's kind of whoever is
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  Speaker 17: in power to given time often can't resist that temptation
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  Speaker 17: to shut down views.
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  Speaker 7: That they disagree with.
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  Speaker 17: So when you have, you know, a school board that's
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  Speaker 17: dominated by one side of the aisle, there is there's
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  Speaker 17: always that danger, right that they're going to try and
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  Speaker 17: censer speech on the other side of the aisle. But
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  Speaker 17: I wish, you know, people would just realize that, you know,
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  Speaker 17: especially when it comes to public education.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we're.
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  Speaker 17: You know, schools are where many people first learn what
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  Speaker 17: it means to participate in democracy, and students should be
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  Speaker 17: free to exercise their constitutional rights, not just learn about
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  Speaker 17: them in the classroom, and the Supreme Court has said
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  Speaker 17: that schools retain a strong interest in preserving the marketplace
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  Speaker 17: of ideas, which includes necessarily protecting unpopular ideas. And if
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  Speaker 17: students aren't allowed to discuss different ideas to organized clubs
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  Speaker 17: to advocate for causes they care about, I think they
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  Speaker 17: lose an important opportunity to develop the habits of citizenship that.
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  Speaker 7: Will prepare them for life in our democratic society.
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  Speaker 2: And one could, and I will make the argument that
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  Speaker 2: that's intentional, Aaron, because I think that I think we
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  Speaker 2: want to or at least the educators want to raise
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  Speaker 2: generation of yes, ma'am, whatever you say, ma'am, rather than questioners.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you sir so much, and again, please help out
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  Speaker 2: and thanks for joining us.
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  Speaker 2: It's like Voltaire said, I may not agree with what
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  Speaker 2: that humans do. And why do they do that? Because
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  Speaker 2: And I've got Republicans saying, no, we can't support this, Joe,
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  Speaker 2: because oh no, hearts and minds got to win. Hearts
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  Speaker 2: Like you know, hey, I have an absolute right to
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