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INTERVIEW: TAUFIK BATISAH & SHEENA AKBAL · 987 The Shock Circuit

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  Speaker 1: Solo and yours, but not solo anymore. I've replaced Joakim
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  Speaker 1: with two very interesting people who are joining me right now.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, Joakim is very well acquainted with at least
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  Speaker 1: one of you. Yes, Tafiq Batisah and Sheena Akbal. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you for joining me. Thank you for having us. This
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  Speaker 1: is actually the first time that we have both of
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  Speaker 1: you on our show together. If I'm not wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you've
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  Speaker 2: never been. No,
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  Speaker 1: we've never.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I think the last time you were here
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  Speaker 1: was probably about National Day related. That was like years
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  Speaker 1: ago already. Yeah. So now it's for a very different reason.
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  Speaker 1: NDP itself over, but because we're still in the spirit
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  Speaker 1: of celebrating National Day, and you know, our nation, um,
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  Speaker 1: really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Content coming through, especially from our friends from CNA nowadays.
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  Speaker 1: I'm loving their work, to be honest. They do. Very
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  Speaker 1: original as well. And um what better way to continue
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  Speaker 1: season two of Meet Me There than with the two OGs.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're like one of Singapore's favorite couples out there.
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  Speaker 1: For real, for real, for real.
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  Speaker 1: Because, you know, sometimes when we look at certain creators
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  Speaker 1: or like um couples out there, you're like, you want,
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  Speaker 1: you want them to be your parents, you know, you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: mom and dad, mom and dad. Yeah, exactly. So with
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  Speaker 1: this season of Meet Me there, pretty interesting, I have
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  Speaker 1: to say, because the whole concept of it is picking
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  Speaker 1: a place that both of you hopefully know and you're
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  Speaker 1: on the same
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  Speaker 1: page.
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  Speaker 1: And all you get is a note that says meet
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  Speaker 1: me there, right? OK, so take me through that first,
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  Speaker 1: maybe that first moment or the first.
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  Speaker 2: So, so, um, Sheena is the sender, right? So I'm
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  Speaker 2: the target. So the sender is the one who picks
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  Speaker 2: the target, right? So the sender knows exactly what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: So I've never seen the first season of the show. Um,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm the target. So I came to
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  Speaker 2: The the location, which was uh my restaurant Chicksaw Chicken, right?
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  Speaker 2: So I assume it was for a different interview. So, initially,
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  Speaker 2: so we were supposed to go together.
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  Speaker 2: And she, she got up late, but for, for this
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  Speaker 2: time around, it was, it was on purpose, right? So
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  Speaker 2: I was already pissed at home. I said I'm only
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be going for the interview? I said, oh, I'm, I'm,
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  Speaker 2: I woke up late, blah blah blah blah. I said, what? OK, uh,
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  Speaker 2: then she said, OK, you go first. I said, what
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  Speaker 2: do you mean you go first? You go first, you
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  Speaker 2: do the interview, and then I'll come later. So I
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  Speaker 2: was already pissed, right?
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  Speaker 2: So what made it worse, um, she said, you take
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  Speaker 2: the Grab. I already called the Grab for you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because the premise of the show, I can't drive, so
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  Speaker 2: there's no point of me driving.
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  Speaker 2: So I took the Grab. I was already like pissed
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  Speaker 2: off in the Grab,
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  Speaker 1: right?
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  Speaker 1: I always drive.
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  Speaker 2: I'm
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  Speaker 2: useless with public. I'm so bad because I have the
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  Speaker 2: privilege of driving for so long and I was riding
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  Speaker 2: in my early teens
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  Speaker 2: and.
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  Speaker 2: So once I was there.
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  Speaker 2: The, the whole crew was there and uh when they
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  Speaker 2: were miking me up and then they revealed that no,
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  Speaker 2: this is not actually an interview about what you think
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  Speaker 2: it is.
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  Speaker 2: This is a show. I give you this note and
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  Speaker 2: I was just blur.
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  Speaker 1: I
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  Speaker 1: know, but because you have to figure it out. That's
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  Speaker 1: why you felt blur. So then the pressure is on
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  Speaker 1: you now to kind of like track back and dig
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  Speaker 1: into the depths of your relationship.
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  Speaker 2: The first pressure was, do I even do this? Because
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  Speaker 2: I was so pissed. I was like, do I do
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  Speaker 2: I do?
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  Speaker 2: Whatever show this is,
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  Speaker 1: I think the person likes to prep. He does a
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  Speaker 1: lot of prep before he does something. OK. So this
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  Speaker 1: is really throwing him into the deep end. I can
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  Speaker 1: imagine the things going through your head.
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  Speaker 2: I was on
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  Speaker 2: the verge of, no, I'm not gonna do this, whatever
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  Speaker 2: this is, but I saw the crew and you get it.
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  Speaker 2: I can't do this. So I had to like, OK,
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  Speaker 2: let's do whatever this is, but
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  Speaker 2: When once I went through like, like the first few hours,
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  Speaker 2: I realized, oh my goodness, this is such a dope show.
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  Speaker 2: It's so good and it's, it's nice to be in
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  Speaker 2: it because it just slows my world down because my
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  Speaker 2: world is just going at 100% all of the time, right?
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  Speaker 2: So when I get to just slow down, walk to
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  Speaker 2: the bus stop, walk to the MRT, look around, process,
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  Speaker 1: oh my goodness.
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  Speaker 1: Everywhere he would bring his boat and skate. I can
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  Speaker 1: only imagine how uncomfortable that experience was. But I feel like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when you come into maybe 2026 or any
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  Speaker 1: year really, I think an interesting goal to have is
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  Speaker 1: to be uncomfortable, like to, to force yourself to be uncomfortable,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, I, I think that puts you in
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  Speaker 1: such a different mindset. So while Tafiq was feeling this discomfort,
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  Speaker 1: what were you feeling, Sheila?
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  Speaker 2: You are looking at the monitor just laughing.
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  Speaker 1: Eating, eating snacking. That's the life. That's the it
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  Speaker 2: was
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  Speaker 2: a really hot day.
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  Speaker 1: They picked
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  Speaker 2: the worst.
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  Speaker 1: So, so digging into like, let's say your memories of
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  Speaker 1: your relationship and all that, how did that translate on
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  Speaker 1: screen and how did that make you feel like as
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  Speaker 1: a couple? Oh,
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  Speaker 2: you, she was, so Sheena was sitting in a room.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, and it was really cool because whatever they recorded
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  Speaker 2: and they send it to Sheena who was in the
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  Speaker 2: room like life, right? That was insane. So I, I
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  Speaker 2: wonder how she felt when she was seeing the video.
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  Speaker 1: I was very, um, I was a bit amazed because
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things from the past.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, good or bad.
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  Speaker 2: Hey guys remember stuff too.
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  Speaker 1: Forgetful selective
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  Speaker 2: memory.
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  Speaker 1: Yesterday, you
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  Speaker 2: don't even know selective memory, did I survive? Am I
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  Speaker 2: here today? I
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  Speaker 1: don't need to know, true. But yeah, you remember a
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  Speaker 1: lot of like things that I didn't think you would,
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  Speaker 1: you would talk about such as like good memories or
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  Speaker 1: like
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  Speaker 2: so this is what I discovered, right, because the places
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  Speaker 2: that I went to, I assume those were the memories
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  Speaker 2: that we both like cherish or we had like.
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  Speaker 2: The fondest memory at this location. So what I understand,
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  Speaker 2: what I realized 11 memory that both people have of
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  Speaker 2: a certain place, it can be a fond memory but
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  Speaker 2: it may be more important to you versus what it
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  Speaker 2: is to the other person,
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  Speaker 1: right?
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  Speaker 2: different memory actually. So I was super puzzled why the
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  Speaker 2: last location where where she was at was the one
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  Speaker 2: that she picked as one of the fondest memories that
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  Speaker 2: we had together until I picked her brain about it.
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  Speaker 2: Then I realized, oh, OK, I get it, but on
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  Speaker 2: my own, I didn't get it and I was
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  Speaker 2: I mean, spoiler alert, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't
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  Speaker 2: have enough time to figure out the space. It was
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  Speaker 2: really irritating because I
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  Speaker 1: went all everywhere
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  Speaker 2: on the island, guys. You gotta watch the show. If
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  Speaker 2: you don't know the geographics of Singapore, I'll show you
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  Speaker 2: the east, the west,
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  Speaker 1: central ties in Singapore's birthday, you're on a tour of
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  Speaker 1: your own country, in a sense. And these are places, OK,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil too much.
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  Speaker 1: Because you know, we want to watch it over the weekends.
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  Speaker 1: But what did it take you to places that you
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  Speaker 1: haven't been to for a very long time and places
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  Speaker 1: where you even struggled to like think about or figure out? Actually, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the first location you went to, right, when, when I
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  Speaker 1: saw you, when I saw the video, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: this is it now. it's different. I've been there. It's
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  Speaker 1: so
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  Speaker 2: different because, because of course when we were younger, right,
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  Speaker 2: we have more time to hang out and things like that. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, if you guys are young,
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  Speaker 2: Enjoy your youth guys, because when you get older, when
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  Speaker 2: you have lots of responsibilities, life just zooms on by. So,
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  Speaker 2: so enjoy the moments that you have with your friends,
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  Speaker 2: the places that you hang out at, you know, because
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  Speaker 2: these places are gonna change. Because when we went to
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  Speaker 2: the first location.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, where we used, of course we are
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  Speaker 2: a lot older
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  Speaker 2: shop
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  Speaker 2: that was there was not there anymore. It's like this
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  Speaker 2: huge shopping center right beside it that's new, uh, and
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  Speaker 2: of course you weren't there. Yeah, yeah. So, um, yeah, what,
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  Speaker 2: what I truly enjoy about the show, it really slowed.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, me down or even us down, I, I would
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  Speaker 2: say because our life is, it's really fast paced and
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  Speaker 2: uh it
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  Speaker 2: It, you know, it, it fills up your mind with, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this is the journey that, yeah, yeah, journey that you,
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  Speaker 2: you've had together and this was the memory that you
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  Speaker 2: had of this place. This is what happened at this place.
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  Speaker 2: This is why I thought that was an important place, um,
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  Speaker 2: and travel across the, the island to where I grew, I,
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  Speaker 2: where I think I can, I can say this, where,
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  Speaker 2: where we got married, and where we moved in together,
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  Speaker 2: our first house and things like that. That was.
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  Speaker 2: That was really like a, like a moment for me,
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  Speaker 2: I thought because it was like the first house that
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  Speaker 2: I bought and then she moved in after we got
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  Speaker 2: married.
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  Speaker 1: It's
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  Speaker 2: to you, to you. I'm so curious.
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  Speaker 1: We we're gonna take a quick break. When we come back,
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  Speaker 1: I want to find out how filming this show has
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  Speaker 1: changed your relationship or the conversations that you had after that, OK?
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  Speaker 1: Please stick around once again.
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  Speaker 1: We're with Taoufiq and Sheena. They're in season 2 of
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  Speaker 1: Meet Me There. This is actually a docu-reality series that
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  Speaker 1: takes an intimate look at people, places, relationships that have
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  Speaker 1: shaped Singapore, and I think they went on their own
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  Speaker 1: tour of the whole country as well. We're still with
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  Speaker 1: Tafik and Sheena and talking about season 2 of Meet
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  Speaker 1: Me There. And we're just having a great chat on
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  Speaker 1: TikTok Live. I think earlier you might have heard about
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  Speaker 1: Sheena's podcast as well, Couch Conversations, and we're in the
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  Speaker 1: midst of talking about topics like a million hats that
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  Speaker 1: you're wearing right now.
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  Speaker 1: And I think 24 hours in a day is just
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  Speaker 1: not enough for you. Nope. How do you segment your
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  Speaker 1: day now that you're, I mean, obviously you were such
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  Speaker 1: a big name in media, you are still such a
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  Speaker 1: big name, but you've branched off to do like so
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  Speaker 1: many businesses. 24 hours is not enough, right? OK, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's enough.
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  Speaker 2: Um, how do I do it, I have my wife
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  Speaker 2: to me out because she's my, she's my manager. She
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  Speaker 2: works with my team, my ID team.
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  Speaker 2: Ivory Cove as well, uh, she does a bit of
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  Speaker 2: the writing for Chicksaw Chicken when we do our, our
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  Speaker 2: promos and things like that. And then for real estate,
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  Speaker 2: I have my team, um, so how many it was
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  Speaker 2: her
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  Speaker 1: before,
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  Speaker 2: yeah, yeah. So yeah, I think it's all about.
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  Speaker 2: Um, structuring your day, uh, because I've been self-employed like
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  Speaker 2: all my life, so it's important for you to structure
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  Speaker 2: your day. You need to have a calendar. Uh, I'm
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  Speaker 2: my own boss. I have to make sure I adhere
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  Speaker 2: to what I put on calendar. It's tough, it's tough,
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  Speaker 2: but it's discipline, uh, like what we, we conversed about
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  Speaker 2: just now, um, it's important to be comfortable with being uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 1: It's
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  Speaker 1: very important.
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  Speaker 1: Be the life motto for a long time, to just
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  Speaker 1: put yourself in discomfort, right. So, um, speaking of discomfort
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  Speaker 1: and earlier on you were saying how it was challenging
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  Speaker 1: to figure out and like, be, be on foot even
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  Speaker 1: to figure out this location because in Meet Me there,
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  Speaker 1: they don't actually know, or rather Tafiq didn't know what
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  Speaker 1: this location was. He had to figure it out based
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  Speaker 1: on shared memories, your relationship, maybe even some stories of
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  Speaker 1: Singapore that you might have shared together collectively as well.
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  Speaker 1: So now I'm curious, that must have been quite an
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  Speaker 1: experience filming together. How did that change your relationship dynamic
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  Speaker 1: or did you figure out more about each other after
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  Speaker 1: this experience? Well, I think, I think the first thing
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  Speaker 1: he did when he saw me, he's like,
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of things we need to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: OK, OK. It's like, wait, what's going on? Like he was,
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  Speaker 1: he was, he was completely lost, right? So on the
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  Speaker 1: drive back, we were talking about it and I told
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  Speaker 1: him why I chose where I chose, right? The place
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  Speaker 1: that I chose, and he was like, oh, OK, that
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  Speaker 1: makes sense. I would have never, you know, yeah. So, um.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of questions that were from the past even
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  Speaker 1: came up in that I never forgot about it was
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  Speaker 1: brought
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  Speaker 1: up,
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  Speaker 2: right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so I think that's the
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  Speaker 2: beauty of, of the show as well. It kind of
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  Speaker 2: like we had uh question marks about why I, I
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  Speaker 2: picked certain locations and why she didn't, she didn't, uh,
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  Speaker 2: pick certain locations or she wasn't at the locations that I,
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  Speaker 2: I picked, right?
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  Speaker 2: So, we, we discussed about it and which at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the day, I realized it's really important for,
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  Speaker 2: for couples or in whatever type of relationship that you have, siblings, uh,
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  Speaker 2: best friends or whatever, to have conversations, to speak about things, uh,
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  Speaker 2: because sometimes what the other person's perception of certain things
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  Speaker 2: that you do or certain things that you say is
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  Speaker 2: different than what you
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  Speaker 2: You assume they
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  Speaker 2: perceive
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Yeah, so I think in
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  Speaker 2: whatever type of relationships that you have, which I think
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  Speaker 2: the show does emphasize that as well, it's important to,
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  Speaker 2: to have conversations, uh, to speak about it and, and
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  Speaker 2: different
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  Speaker 2: Parts of your life, different memories that you have, it's
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  Speaker 2: different for the other person. So and sometimes it's it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of cool and fun to talk about those
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  Speaker 1: times.
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  Speaker 2: 2120 years. So
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  Speaker 1: that's the thing like you realize no matter how long
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  Speaker 1: you've been with a person or you've known a person,
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  Speaker 1: there's always something new.
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  Speaker 1: There's always,
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  Speaker 2: yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Was there something, if you can say, what was the
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  Speaker 1: one thing that you noticed about each other that was
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  Speaker 1: a new thought through filming season two of Meet Me There?
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  Speaker 1: Did you have like just one discovery? I think that
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  Speaker 1: secretly Tafiq is a romantic person because we are not
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  Speaker 1: affectionate at all. We are not, we're not the affectionate couple.
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  Speaker 2: We are very
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  Speaker 1: like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: yeah, yeah, but we are not like romantic. I don't
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  Speaker 1: need flowers. Can you please don't waste money on flowers.
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  Speaker 1: OK. That's what I think. So what makes you say
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  Speaker 1: that he's secretly romantic? Because he went to all the
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  Speaker 1: places that mark anniversaries of being together. Oh, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: even think I didn't, I didn't, I don't even remember.
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  Speaker 1: I have to admit I am remembering anniversary dates. I
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  Speaker 1: don't remember, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember. How does the other party feel about that? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't remember that's perfect.
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  Speaker 2: That's perfect. So for us, right, uh.
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  Speaker 2: I, I know, um, you still like birthdays. I still
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  Speaker 2: like birthdays. You like surprises still. I don't like surprises.
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  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't care for my birthday. Like I
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  Speaker 2: don't care for events.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: she's more excited about it, yeah, so, but that's, that's
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  Speaker 2: the understanding that we have, that we are OK about it.
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  Speaker 2: I guess it's important for couples to understand if
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  Speaker 2: The both of you are OK about it, then it's fine,
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  Speaker 2: but if one person, yeah, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 2: because sometimes people assume that um if if it's not
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  Speaker 2: a big deal to me, shouldn't be a big deal
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  Speaker 2: to you, what you should understand. But no, sometimes if
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  Speaker 2: it's a big deal to the other party, for example,
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  Speaker 2: for your birthdays, right, it's still something.
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  Speaker 2: That you enjoy, I will, I will try to make
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  Speaker 2: that effort to make it something that it's important it's
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  Speaker 2: important to her.
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  Speaker 1: So she's realized that about you. So what did you
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  Speaker 1: realize about her? I,
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  Speaker 2: I realized thoroughly that she's not romantic.
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  Speaker 1: Because
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  Speaker 2: the final location that she chose, I was like, why?
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  Speaker 2: I like the producer, like, because my time was up, right?
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  Speaker 2: The producer was like, sorry, your time is up, so
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  Speaker 2: we have to reveal it, uh.
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  Speaker 2: Where it is. So then we rushed down and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, why did she choose this place? And then
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  Speaker 2: obviously the producer doesn't know lah. So when I, the
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: first day I meet her, I saw her like, why?
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: So when she, when she explained.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Why? It makes
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: sense to you. It made sense to you. OK. Honestly,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: this looks like such a fun journey. It feels like
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: a fun journey like you telling us the story, you
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: sharing the story. So we get to catch the full
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: thing this weekend um on our free to air channels
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: and also I think our friends at CNA on YouTube,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: they will upload one. Have you seen it yet? The whole.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: You have not. OK. So you together
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: The rest of us will be watching this journey. This
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: is one of Singapore's power couples, OK, yeah. Tafik, Sheena,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for being with us. Thank you
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: for having us. Please come visit more often. If you
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: need more inspiration for your podcast topics, just come and
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: talk to me and Joakim, you know, we can bring
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: you guys in on board. And in case, um, our,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: our listeners don't follow you yet, maybe you can share
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: your handles with them.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Follow Sheena at Sheena Aqbal. I am Sheena Agbal. I
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: am Sheen Aqbal. OK. I'm Sheen Aqbal on Instagram. Sorry,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: I failed that miserably. And on TikTok have you changed
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: it back? She changed it to bits and bobs. I
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: wanted
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: to open a shop called Bits and Bob, it's a
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: technical difficulty but it will be changed.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: But check out her podcast called Couch Conversation, Couch Combo
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: and uh you can follow me on Instagram, on TikTok, Taofiqia,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: T A U F I K B A T I S. Wonderful.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Alright, so if you're still live on TikTok and
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: you're still tuned in to us, those are handles you
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: got to follow. And if you're curious about season one
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: as well of Meet Me there, you can catch up
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: with it on YouTube too or me watchch perhaps.