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Live from the State of the People Power Tour Louisville Part 2 · TMI

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Speaker 1: I'm Tamika D. Mallory and it's your boy my son
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Speaker 1: in general, we are your host of TMI.
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Speaker 2: Tamika and my Son's Information, Truth, Motivation and Inspiration.
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Speaker 3: New Name, New Energy. But you are watching the TMI
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Speaker 3: show the State of the People Power Tour edition and yes, for.
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Speaker 2: This edition, we have been live from Louisville, Kentucky in
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Speaker 2: Simmons College, the historical HBCU.
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Speaker 3: Rest of all, this is so exciting to me that
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Speaker 3: we have our show TMI live in Louisville, Kentucky with
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Speaker 3: the people of Louisville.
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Speaker 1: Get yourselves a round of applause for being there. Today's Yes,
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Speaker 1: this is so called.
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Speaker 3: It's like our first time really being live on location.
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Speaker 3: Usually we're in studios or you know, somewhere with a
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Speaker 3: laptop trying to figure out the light taking off the
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Speaker 3: shade and the hotel and you know, setting up. But
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Speaker 3: this time today, Bryan, who is our super producer for
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Speaker 3: the State of the People Power Tour, convinced us that
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Speaker 3: we need to be live and in person. And of
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Speaker 3: course my son said absolutely because I've been telling her
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Speaker 3: that all of them I am, but you know I
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Speaker 3: have mind. The women you gotta listen to the men sometimes,
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Speaker 3: but today we are joined by our brothers. We usually
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Speaker 3: say friends to T and I because all on our
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Speaker 3: shows we always have our friends. And one time people
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Speaker 3: got mad at us and say, why y'all always have
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Speaker 3: your friends, Why y'all don't interview other people that's not
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Speaker 3: your friend? And we say, because if we don't like you,
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Speaker 3: we don't have to have you on our show.
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Speaker 4: That's why we got our own shoe to interview the
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Speaker 4: people we like.
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Speaker 1: That's why we got our show. Get you a show
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Speaker 1: that's rick at whoever you want. But these are not
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Speaker 1: our friends. These are our brother's blood.
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Speaker 3: Couldn't make us any closer and make us love one
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Speaker 3: another anymore. Our brother, Pastor Michael McBride, who is the
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Speaker 3: executive director of Live Free but also the co founder
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Speaker 3: of the Black Church Pack, and he is our pre
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Speaker 3: eminent leader. We will talk more about that. He doesn't
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Speaker 3: he's so humble when we say it.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't want to own it. But every problem that
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Speaker 1: we have if his strategy that we need.
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Speaker 3: Every solution that you see us working through, Pastor McBride
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Speaker 3: is at the table helping to be a thought leader,
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Speaker 3: helping to get people paid when they have nothing, you
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Speaker 3: have no money. If the white folks attack us, one
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Speaker 3: person that's gonna have a check for you to do
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Speaker 3: something is Pastor Mike McBride. He's also an incredible fundraiser,
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Speaker 3: well respected across this nation. If you don't he's one
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Speaker 3: of those leaders you don't know, but he is, you should, truly,
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Speaker 3: you should absolutely know Pastor Mike McBride. And then our
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Speaker 3: brother Tef Poe, who is an artist, one of the
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Speaker 3: dopest lyricists in our nation, in our world, a true
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Speaker 3: advocate for social justice. He was on the ground in Ferguson,
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Speaker 3: one of the leaders out there who was tear gassed
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Speaker 3: and attacked by the system. He has been labeled a
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Speaker 3: dangerous man in the in the city.
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Speaker 5: So that's good. That's those are.
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Speaker 6: That's what we like.
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Speaker 5: That's what we like. Don't say that whatever dangerous to
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Speaker 5: the system is revolutionary love for us, sir, That's what
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Speaker 5: we have.
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Speaker 3: Some some some in this dangerous to the city to
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Speaker 3: the system, are dangerous to us too, but they really
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Speaker 3: labeled to that because Teppo is so powerful, and let
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Speaker 3: me tell you he's the founder of Crow Life.
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Speaker 1: But he is also doing something right now that.
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Speaker 3: Is extremely important and one of the reasons why we
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Speaker 3: wanted to hear from you today, TEP. He is currently
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Speaker 3: working with a group that has is calling itself the
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Speaker 3: People's Response in Louisiana. Now let me just I mean,
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Speaker 3: excuse me in Saint Saint Saint Louis. I don't know,
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Speaker 3: y'all gotta help me sometimes in Saint Louis.
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Speaker 1: And the reason.
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Speaker 3: Why it's so important to have you here, TEP, because
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Speaker 3: in this moment, you look wonderful, you know, nice and
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Speaker 3: cleaned up and looking good. But just last week I
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Speaker 3: saw you with looking like you had dust from the
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Speaker 3: top of your head to the bottom of your feet,
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Speaker 3: because you've been out there in the rubble, literally with
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Speaker 3: the people, trying to make sure that the resources that
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Speaker 3: our community deserves gets to our people because we can't
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Speaker 3: depend on the federal government to help black folks in
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Speaker 3: the middle of a natural disaster, and in fact, some
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Speaker 3: of the white folks ain't getting no help either right now,
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Speaker 3: which is a whole other thing. So I think TEP
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Speaker 3: will start with you what's been happening in your city,
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Speaker 3: and let's talk about the disparities there, what you're seeing,
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Speaker 3: and how you've been getting resources in.
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Speaker 7: So for folks that don't know, and that's three tornado
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Speaker 7: through Black.
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Speaker 6: At the highest that you can have for F five.
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Speaker 7: F three went right through the heart of the black
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Speaker 7: portion of the city. Some white folks was effected, of course,
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Speaker 7: but if you live in Tornado Alley, Tornado Lane, whatever
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Speaker 7: they call it, we typically believe that the tornadoes and
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Speaker 7: the twists can't land in the city. So we don't
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Speaker 7: even go into basement. We don't even when we hear
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Speaker 7: the sirens go off. We don't really react the way
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Speaker 7: that we probably should react to it. But in this case,
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Speaker 7: I'm being very vocal about it because some things went
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Speaker 7: down there weren't necessarily the people's fault. The white person
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Speaker 7: who was supposed to push the button to let us
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Speaker 7: know that the tornado land didn't push the butt. People
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Speaker 7: think I take stuff a little bit too far, but
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Speaker 7: I can almost guarantee you that person voted with our
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Speaker 7: trumpets with So when we try to connect the dots
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Speaker 7: on things, that too quick to call the conspiracy when
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Speaker 7: sometimes it's just bam. So I went out that night
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Speaker 7: that the tornado landed, and I just saw portions of
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Speaker 7: my city looking like in a pockets, you know what
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Speaker 7: I'm saying. I saw families displaced, and I kind of
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Speaker 7: knew I was gonna be involved home Way or the other.
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Speaker 7: So I started working with two winning Kaylor Reed and
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Speaker 7: the sister main ohom ashon singles and for the culture,
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Speaker 7: and they put together quick plan to try to be
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Speaker 7: the people's response to the moment.
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Speaker 6: It was a very simple operation and then it just scaled.
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Speaker 7: Up to something massive where some days I feel like
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Speaker 7: we out there literally rebuilding the ghetto. Wow, saying there's
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Speaker 7: times where me and my partners are negotiating with the
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Speaker 7: street games to let spire come down the street, you know,
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Speaker 7: let the gas company come in. I think this is
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Speaker 7: important to note because we just had an election a
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Speaker 7: few weeks before this storm hat and in my umble opinion,
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Speaker 7: people who came in with this current administration, this was
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Speaker 7: a part of their clan in to displace and relocate
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Speaker 7: black folks in the city of Saint Louis. They just
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Speaker 7: had an act of God that's helping expediate the process.
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Speaker 6: Wow. So I think we have like.
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Speaker 7: Basically the grounds for like what I would consider like
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Speaker 7: a political and the ideological civil wars. Saint looks right now,
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Speaker 7: people who believe that we have to defee our birth right,
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Speaker 7: which is the West side and the North side of
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Speaker 7: Saint Louis, at all costs. And people who kind of
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Speaker 7: feel like, hey, a little gentrification might might be helped.
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Speaker 7: It might it might fix things that couldn't be fixed.
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Speaker 7: So those are the fights that we're fighting right now,
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Speaker 7: helping the rebuild the ghetto, get the resources to our people,
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Speaker 7: and the race the narrative about what's really happening.
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Speaker 2: So and what is this administration done in Saint Louis?
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Speaker 6: Sins this happened. I mean, you know better than most.
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Speaker 6: I'm a war time so.
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Speaker 7: I always say call me when it's gangster, don't calling
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Speaker 7: me when y'adge just out there passing now teddybirds gonna
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Speaker 7: call me when you call me when his wreath. So
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Speaker 7: I feel like the reality of the situation is is
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Speaker 7: real real. You got thousands of teenagers misplaced, those streets,
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Speaker 7: of people living under tents right now. And to answer
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Speaker 7: the question, what is the administration that I don't know?
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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. She won't TV a crid.
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Speaker 7: She's worked across the aisle with some traditional institutional groups,
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Speaker 7: but times like this you need unconventional tactics, and that's
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Speaker 7: where the capacity of the state is always limited when
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Speaker 7: it costs to black people and my people. If this
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Speaker 7: was white folks, they would have figured out how to
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Speaker 7: do more than get some free bottle water. You know
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Speaker 7: what I'm saying, like I'm loading trucks with eight year
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Speaker 7: old kids if I'm telling the truth, you know, like
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Speaker 7: it's eight year old boys just gonna remember, like, hey,
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Speaker 7: I helped fight that fight to say this community. They
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Speaker 7: use the chat GPT standard response, do not self deployed,
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Speaker 7: do not you know they I could tell somebody down
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Speaker 7: there and know how to use Google on chat GPT,
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Speaker 7: So they putting out a bunch of chat GPT nature
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Speaker 7: things about what to do in the natural disaster. But
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Speaker 7: most of the relief efforts come from Black people having
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Speaker 7: common sense about Sabbat, knowing we gotta work together, knowing
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Speaker 7: wey'tall put our political differences to the stop. And that's
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Speaker 7: what I feel is happening right now too for the city.
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Speaker 7: That's beautiful about it. It's that black folk from a
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Speaker 7: brown who traditionally had to work together saying, hey, bro,
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Speaker 7: you bring your group being y'all do this my group,
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Speaker 7: do this, yo group, do this, your group do this.
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Speaker 7: It's kind of like we running our own shadow government
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Speaker 7: in Black Samians right now.
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Speaker 3: Wow, So I heard that you said you talked about displacement,
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Speaker 3: and I heard that people are even being displaced from
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Speaker 3: the tents, like they're shutting down certain areas so they
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Speaker 3: just so where are folks supposed to go?
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Speaker 7: It's a humanitarian crisis that, in my opinion, black woman
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Speaker 7: was in leadership. If we still had to charge all
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Speaker 7: of our first black woman mayor, man, they would be
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Speaker 7: down there trying to her out of Sea Hall.
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Speaker 6: And I think that.
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Speaker 3: Ah, so don't don't skip too quick past that, because
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Speaker 3: that's serious. What you just said is that if to
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Speaker 3: shar Jones, the black woman who was the mayor who
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Speaker 3: was just defeated by a white.
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Speaker 5: Woman, corporate republic craft.
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Speaker 3: Right there, a republic that's leaving it to have to
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Speaker 3: come up with a word to call us. So if that, if,
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Speaker 3: if if it was to shar Jones there, you're saying
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Speaker 3: that even our community would be down there calling all
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Speaker 3: kind of names and tearing down the walls of city
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Speaker 3: Hall because she's not being responsive. You know what I'm
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Speaker 3: saying is it because people are just too traumatized, or
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Speaker 3: you think it's just that we just have a thing
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Speaker 3: about white folks, that we let white folks get away
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Speaker 3: with murder literally.
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Speaker 6: Fact, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 7: So we got it for the sisters, but we don't
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Speaker 7: got it for the white women or passion for them.
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Speaker 7: We let them go on TV and cry like the
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Speaker 7: st on the streets and they a' getting paycheck to
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Speaker 7: fix might put a gun to that woman head and
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Speaker 7: say it. She chose to do that, her narcissism, so put.
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Speaker 6: Her in power.
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Speaker 7: So now you got to make the call, you know
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Speaker 7: what I'm saying. And it's rigal, like people dying. I know,
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Speaker 7: grown men looking up in the roof right looking in
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Speaker 7: their living room right now. They don't got no roof
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Speaker 7: rain coming in. I don't know what they're gonna do.
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Speaker 7: I'm in the backyard helping homeboys move trees. You connected
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Speaker 7: me with trade of truth. He helping me cut stuff down,
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Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. So it's like I am
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Speaker 7: more upset than I'm showing because I can't really show
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Speaker 7: how upset I.
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Speaker 6: Am because people call me the logical black.
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Speaker 7: But I'm deeply upset by seeing grandmothers say they don't
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Speaker 7: know what's gonna happen.
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Speaker 6: I'm heaply upset by the fact that I've been s
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Speaker 6: been in.
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Speaker 7: Three four weeks in my life and I ain't loaded
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Speaker 7: a damn truck with a politician yet.
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Speaker 6: Wow, you feel me.
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Speaker 7: I've been out there loading trucks, unloading trucks, going to
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Speaker 7: people's houses. And I'm not saying I'm Superman or like that.
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Speaker 1: You're Superman Brother, You're Superman Sat.
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Speaker 8: He's Superman Sat.
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Speaker 7: But at some point, when do they need us on
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Speaker 7: the terrain?
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Speaker 6: Everybody want us. It's the politicals to be governize people
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Speaker 6: to vote.
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Speaker 7: We do it when we can, but we got real
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Speaker 7: responses that people need to have human responses too, Real
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Speaker 7: things that people need to have human responses, And I
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Speaker 7: just don't see.
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Speaker 6: It in local governments. Pay other men as much as
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Speaker 6: we should. I know that.
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Speaker 7: Trump is the impedient problem of the whole fricking world
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Speaker 7: at this point, right, But where are the men and
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Speaker 7: women with heart on the local level. Where are the
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Speaker 7: people who ain't taking Where are the people who ain't going?
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Speaker 7: Like salt Walker said, everybody ain't going. I'm looking for
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Speaker 7: the people who ain't.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, I think these tragedies expose the class
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Speaker 9: divisions within our own community. You know what I mean,
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Speaker 9: because all across the country we're seeing a version, maybe
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Speaker 9: not a literal tornado hitting every neighborhood, but we have
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Speaker 9: a existential tornado that's hitting our communities, and the federal
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Speaker 9: government is making very clear that we are on our
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Speaker 9: own at various parts of our experience. Even under democratic leadership,
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Speaker 9: we still be on our own. We just don't think
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Speaker 9: it because people grin and invite us to the White
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Speaker 9: House and invite us to their parties and give us,
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Speaker 9: you know, a dollar out of you know, ten dollars
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Speaker 9: of their budget, and we feel less desperate. But the
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Speaker 9: reality is, poor black people in our communities are catching hell.
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Speaker 5: No matter who's in office.
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Speaker 9: They catch a hell, no matter who's they pastor they
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Speaker 9: catch a hell no matter who's they boss.
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Speaker 5: And the question we have to.
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Speaker 9: Ask ourselves among the community state of the people power
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Speaker 9: to it right, We're trying.
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Speaker 5: To ask ourselves, are we going to do what.
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Speaker 9: Is necessary to meet the existential tornado that visits our
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Speaker 9: communities regular and many of us who have means have
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Speaker 9: to ask ourselves what are we willing to do to
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Speaker 9: extend ourselves right to those who are hurting? Jesus always
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Speaker 9: commands us to care for the least of these, which
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Speaker 9: means that there are some of us who.
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Speaker 5: Aren't the least of these.
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Speaker 9: There is not enough money to pay everybody for the
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Speaker 9: liberation of black people in this country. Some of us
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Speaker 9: got to wake up every day and do something more
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Speaker 9: than what we're doing right now. Free and for free, well,
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Speaker 9: for free from a financial position, but freedom of liberation
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Speaker 9: is priceless. It's priceless when.
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Speaker 5: You smell free. That's why we was at first in together.
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Speaker 5: We used to say, man, been out there getting tear
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Speaker 5: gas and our haircracked.
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Speaker 9: Was the most freeing moment. That love's so intoxicating, you
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Speaker 9: know what I'm saying. Hundreds of black people.
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Speaker 5: Outside, we were saying that test.
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Speaker 1: It's like.
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Speaker 5: He rather be in the house, but never was there.
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Speaker 5: How was that about?
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Speaker 10: Right?
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Speaker 6: Nah?
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Speaker 9: I mean, there's something about freedom, fighting for freedom, pushing
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Speaker 9: against the system.
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Speaker 6: Right.
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Speaker 9: It is hard to do it without breaks and without
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Speaker 9: some rhythm of care. But we have to realize that
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Speaker 9: we are in a state of existential crisis.
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Speaker 5: Trump is the great kind of caricature of that.
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Speaker 9: But here in Louisville, in places of the Midwest and
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Speaker 9: the South, we know that we got all kinds of
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Speaker 9: systems of power that are praying on us right. If
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Speaker 9: Trump was not here, they'd still be praying on us right.
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Speaker 9: And so Trump is giving us an opportunity to clarify
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Speaker 9: the wickedness and the evil of this existential crisis we
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Speaker 9: we're in. But we got to do something more than
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Speaker 9: what we're doing. And I think it's up to us.
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Speaker 9: While we're doing this too, we're trying to rally ourselves
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Speaker 9: together and say that everything we need as a community
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Speaker 9: is within our community. We just have to align ourselves.
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Speaker 9: We have to strategize reminding ourselves we've always been the
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Speaker 9: minority in this country, but every great gain for freedom
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Speaker 9: and civil rights has come from the minority population of
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Speaker 9: black people in this country. And if this country is
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Speaker 9: gonna be said, it's gonna because black people do what
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Speaker 9: we always do save ourselves, or by extension, the country
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Speaker 9: will continue to survive.
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Speaker 10: Wow.
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Speaker 2: I ain't even I had a question, but you you
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Speaker 2: pretty much answered the whole question of my bad and
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Speaker 2: everything Jesus I do have.
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Speaker 3: Of course, Jay, because we're talking today about the first
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Speaker 3: one hundred days, the sign and you know, the the
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Speaker 3: gun violence prevention resources around this nation.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't just keep us.
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Speaker 3: See, I think that there is this misconception by some
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Speaker 3: of these white folks that all they're going.
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Speaker 1: To do is create chaos in.
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Speaker 3: Our own communities by pulling gun violence prevention.
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Speaker 1: Resources from us.
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Speaker 3: They don't know that those resources keep them safe as well,
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Speaker 3: because once some of the people who prey on our communities,
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Speaker 3: once they get through with taking whatever they can from
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Speaker 3: us and terrorizing us, they move to wherever else they
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Speaker 3: can go, right, Because that's just the reality, I say
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Speaker 3: some of them, We're not going to give them that.
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Speaker 3: All they're hurting and they have they lack resources. Some
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Speaker 3: people just pray on our communities that look like them, sure, period.
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Speaker 3: And then there are others who, because of desperation, they
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Speaker 3: turn to means that you know, are dangerous for all
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Speaker 3: of us, and we try to help them. I think
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Speaker 3: about somebody like Erika Ford and Queens, who just lost
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Speaker 3: two million dollars of her budget with the Trump You
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Speaker 3: you know the name of the what was the the
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Speaker 3: no not the say, what was the name of the
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Speaker 3: Biden administration. So Sam the Stafer Communities Act under that
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Speaker 3: has now been disbanded, right from in the show.
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Speaker 5: Well, they've they've clawed the money.
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Speaker 3: The funds out of it, and and the Trunk administration
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Speaker 3: they were very specific about why. They didn't say, well
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Speaker 3: we just you know, it's just waste. They didn't say that.
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Speaker 3: They said that violence prevention, money, addiction prevention, and criminal
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Speaker 3: justice reform resources are not aligned with their agenda, that
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Speaker 3: their agenda is more aligned with policing and you know,
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Speaker 3: more militarized policing in our communities. And so two million
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Speaker 3: dollars of eric A Ford's resources, and I know, Ryan,
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Speaker 3: excuse me, just let us get into this one thing here,
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Speaker 3: two million dollars of eric A Ford's resources and I
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Speaker 3: and I don't know the exact numbers, but there are
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Speaker 3: other people.
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Speaker 5: That eight hundred million dollars.
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Speaker 3: Right, But the other organizations in New York alone and
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Speaker 3: lost so much of their money that their organizations can't
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Speaker 3: even function there or they have to close down. Now
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Speaker 3: there are people out here pastor my who will say, oh,
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Speaker 3: that's because I'm telling my black folks who have great influence,
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Speaker 3: people who are all on social.
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Speaker 1: Media and they look. You know, everybody loves them. They
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Speaker 1: go to their stuff.
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Speaker 3: Oh that's because y'all are begging for money from somebody else.
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Speaker 3: I thought we were asking for our tax dollars to
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Speaker 3: circle back to our community, and that we're not begging anybody.
19:35
Speaker 1: Faything they say do for self, we are doing for self.
19:37
Speaker 3: I work a job, I pay taxes sure, and now
19:41
Speaker 3: want the federal government to make sure that the kids
19:43
Speaker 3: in my community get what they need so they don't
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Speaker 3: pick up guns, so they don't pick up drugs, and.
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Speaker 1: So on and so forth.
19:50
Speaker 3: Talk about the impact first of all of the work
19:53
Speaker 3: that you all put into getting that money assigned to
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Speaker 3: gun violence prevention.
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Speaker 1: And I know I'm talking too long, but I need
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Speaker 1: to make sure all of this is said.
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Speaker 3: When they first when the Biden administration first decided that
20:10
Speaker 3: they would put hundreds of millions of dollars into gun
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Speaker 3: violence prevention, those white groups were first on the list
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Speaker 3: to receive resources. It was black organizers like yourself and
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Speaker 3: a bunch of other people.
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Speaker 1: Why if I started naming them, I'll get in trouble.
20:27
Speaker 1: Who win in there?
20:28
Speaker 3: Amber Goodwin was one of the individuals, and what's the
20:31
Speaker 3: brother's name? Who's who works closely with Greg administration, Greg exactly,
20:37
Speaker 3: these folks and y'all came together and said, no, we
20:41
Speaker 3: have to put front and center black folks, black organizations.
20:46
Speaker 1: That was not easy. It was a fight.
20:48
Speaker 3: I think people just don't realize what goes into this stuff.
20:52
Speaker 3: Now we're losing the money. We've lost the money the
20:55
Speaker 3: City of Newark, they have cut their resources across the board,
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Speaker 3: any money for gun violence prevention. What is this going
21:04
Speaker 3: to mean, not just for our community before society in general,
21:07
Speaker 3: and talk about the fight that you all went through
21:09
Speaker 3: to ensure that we got the resources in the first
21:12
Speaker 3: pl Yes, so.
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Speaker 9: I you know, this is a decade long fight to
21:15
Speaker 9: try and center public health responses.
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Speaker 5: To gun violence in the black community.
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Speaker 9: What we know is that a super small number, less
21:25
Speaker 9: than half a one percent of your city is responsible
21:28
Speaker 9: for almost sixty percent of the gun related shooting and homicides,
21:31
Speaker 9: which just means that there's one hundred shooting. It's not
21:33
Speaker 9: because you got a hundred people shooting. It's a small
21:36
Speaker 9: number of folks who are caught in lethal conflicts and
21:40
Speaker 9: they play out in neighborhoods, in clubs, in communities, et cetera.
21:45
Speaker 9: Public health means that rather than just using a law
21:48
Speaker 9: enforcement or cultural response, we attend the people's anger, fear,
21:52
Speaker 9: and pain using public health resources, mental health resources. All
21:56
Speaker 9: of us know, if you've been shot at thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixty,
21:59
Speaker 9: seventy to eighteen years old, you are now a totally
22:02
Speaker 9: different human being. You have all kind of paranoia, you
22:06
Speaker 9: have all kind of anger, you got fear, you got paid.
22:09
Speaker 9: And as black men meet mice and Angel was talking
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Speaker 9: about this last year.
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Speaker 5: You know where do black.
22:15
Speaker 9: Men get to publicly display their fear and their anger
22:19
Speaker 9: and they pay? You walking down the street traumatized, you
22:22
Speaker 9: got to put on armor. You don't get the cry,
22:25
Speaker 9: you don't get no therapist. So imagine ten years of
22:29
Speaker 9: armor and never having your health address public, physically or mentally.
22:35
Speaker 9: Our strategies were attempting to acknowledge that, whether you've been shot.
22:39
Speaker 5: Or whether you're in a community where you hear.
22:41
Speaker 9: Gunshots, black people's psyche has been fractured, fragmented, and dismantled.
22:46
Speaker 5: By lethal violence.
22:48
Speaker 9: How do we use the healthcare system of our country
22:51
Speaker 9: to help repair the psyche of the.
22:54
Speaker 5: Black family in war zones, we.
22:57
Speaker 9: Require our tax dollars to do it, and you're right,
22:59
Speaker 9: People like that's a he ask for a handout. The
23:02
Speaker 9: government ain't gonna never help you. Well, the government help
23:04
Speaker 9: you when you get on the bus to go to school.
23:06
Speaker 9: The government help you with to get your mail. Well,
23:09
Speaker 9: why is your mail delivery?
23:11
Speaker 6: Not you begging?
23:13
Speaker 9: So I say, man, right, why didn't fixing the rolls?
23:16
Speaker 9: Ain't you begging? Why didn't putting police in your community?
23:19
Speaker 9: That ain't you begging?
23:20
Speaker 5: Right?
23:20
Speaker 9: So our tax dollars should be spent the way we
23:23
Speaker 9: want them to be spent. And if I want my
23:26
Speaker 9: tax dollars to go to a street outreach worker like
23:28
Speaker 9: my son or temp rather than a police, that's not begging.
23:33
Speaker 9: That's self determination on our turn.
23:35
Speaker 3: Right.
23:36
Speaker 9: It cooked us decades. And when I say I'm talking
23:39
Speaker 9: about decades, I've been doing this for fifteen years every day.
23:42
Speaker 9: And people was doing it before me. Not answer, well,
23:45
Speaker 9: God bless your answer. He was doing other things. Eric,
23:48
Speaker 9: I'm gonna say, Eric, before a Chico Marcus Cat's doing
23:53
Speaker 9: this before I even got involved.
23:55
Speaker 5: In the volunteering of absolutely volunteering.
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Speaker 9: Anthony Smith, who's from Louisville run Cities United. I think
24:04
Speaker 9: we used to work in the mayor's office and stuff.
24:06
Speaker 9: Doing this work. There's no money in that, right, and
24:09
Speaker 9: so it's really important to appreciate decades we couldn't get
24:11
Speaker 9: Negro politicians, black politicians. Nobody would come along with this.
24:15
Speaker 9: They said, this is a hugger thug strategy. It don't work,
24:18
Speaker 9: It won't help me win an election because the police
24:20
Speaker 9: don't like it.
24:21
Speaker 5: We had to fight everybody.
24:24
Speaker 9: When I say, I'm talking about everybody, the preachers, the police,
24:28
Speaker 9: the prosecutor anywhere.
24:30
Speaker 5: To start with a pee. You had to fight it, right,
24:33
Speaker 5: But we won.
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Speaker 9: We won, We won, and we got this money at
24:37
Speaker 9: the federal level because we all launched fun piece and
24:41
Speaker 9: a big old national campaign. We came to Louisville. Red
24:44
Speaker 9: Dot was one of our folks that we was rocking
24:45
Speaker 9: with year to get this stuff going. So to your point,
24:48
Speaker 9: it took us almost decades to get the first you know,
24:52
Speaker 9: slot of resources, several hundred million dollars put into budgets.
24:57
Speaker 9: And I want you to know that sounds like a
24:58
Speaker 9: lot of money because we don't got no money.
25:01
Speaker 10: It's a dollar out of the tent and they took
25:06
Speaker 10: that back, right, And so it's really important for us
25:09
Speaker 10: to acknowledge that what is going to happen Right as
25:12
Speaker 10: Trump sinks this economy with the.
25:14
Speaker 9: Terriffs, more desperation is going to set in, More anger
25:18
Speaker 9: is going to set in, and the mayors of our
25:20
Speaker 9: cities are going to default back to tough on crime
25:25
Speaker 9: police unless you in this room let your mayor know
25:29
Speaker 9: that we not going there.
25:33
Speaker 1: And we gotta wrap a go ahead acts us.
25:37
Speaker 7: I probably didn't see much about there. The price of
25:39
Speaker 7: wood is up there, so you gotta rebuild a whole.
25:42
Speaker 6: With the price of wood. So think about that, and
25:45
Speaker 6: it's all connected.
25:47
Speaker 5: I just want to say one thing. You know, poverty
25:50
Speaker 5: is violence, that's right.
25:51
Speaker 2: And when we talk about violence in our communities where
25:54
Speaker 2: they come from, you don't see well to two black
25:56
Speaker 2: communities with people shooting each other up because there's no need.
25:59
Speaker 2: When you when you're hungry and you starving, you and
26:02
Speaker 2: you've been taught that you're savage, and you've been taught
26:04
Speaker 2: that you nothing, people grab guns and you don't value
26:06
Speaker 2: life because you're not in communities where life looks like
26:09
Speaker 2: it's to be valued. Then there's violence. So these people
26:12
Speaker 2: understand that and they're intentionally taking away the resources and
26:16
Speaker 2: the faces of people who can give them that energy
26:19
Speaker 2: in that life that they can see people that are
26:21
Speaker 2: doing something positive in our community. So when we look
26:24
Speaker 2: at this is very intentional. Right, when we look at
26:26
Speaker 2: our communities and we see the ones that's decimated, we
26:28
Speaker 2: see what the violence is, We know exactly why it's
26:31
Speaker 2: happening there.
26:32
Speaker 5: So I just want to.
26:33
Speaker 2: Say the work that we're doing and that you've been
26:35
Speaker 2: doing for years is important to me because she's very humble,
26:38
Speaker 2: but she's also one of the individuals who want to
26:40
Speaker 2: grow on the front line in New York City to
26:42
Speaker 2: get the first resources for gun violence and awareness and
26:47
Speaker 2: protection inside our community.
26:48
Speaker 5: So I just want to say, we love y'all.
26:50
Speaker 2: I want you to, like I said, I ended it
26:52
Speaker 2: every one of these segments, this is the state of
26:54
Speaker 2: the power of the People talk, and I want you
26:56
Speaker 2: to give the people some energy before you leave. What
26:59
Speaker 2: can the people be doing right now?
27:00
Speaker 3: Real quick passing, Mike, I want you to make sure
27:02
Speaker 3: you include in it. What's that what it says on
27:04
Speaker 3: your shirt? Oh, the struggle is real, but so in God.
27:11
Speaker 1: Tap to go first and then past the mic and
27:13
Speaker 1: we wrapping it up.
27:15
Speaker 7: My main thing is disorganized, like treat your family, like
27:17
Speaker 7: it's an organization playing for everything.
27:20
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like, don't eat.
27:21
Speaker 7: I hate when I wrot on Facebook and I see
27:23
Speaker 7: black people who ain't a little organization, Like, but what
27:26
Speaker 7: the organizations do you?
27:27
Speaker 6: And the four people you know is a.
27:29
Speaker 1: Za that's right.
27:31
Speaker 5: Trust black people rock with black people. Uh. The white
27:35
Speaker 5: man's ice ain't colder than yours.
27:37
Speaker 9: So so so you are to fall in love with
27:41
Speaker 9: the black people in your community. We we ought to
27:43
Speaker 9: be doubling down on working with each others. Preachers gotta
27:47
Speaker 9: work together despite your denominations. Groups got to work together
27:50
Speaker 9: despite your differences. Neighborhoods got the rock with each other
27:53
Speaker 9: despite your historical challenges. Fall in love with black people.
27:56
Speaker 9: Now's the time black ve will save us if we
27:58
Speaker 9: get together.
27:58
Speaker 1: All right, brilliance here, thank you very much.
28:04
Speaker 3: She are live from the State of the People Power
28:07
Speaker 3: Tour in Louisville, Kentucky, the tenth city that this tour
28:12
Speaker 3: has traveled to. And I'm really, really just so excited
28:16
Speaker 3: that you know Ryan and Ryan our super producer, and
28:21
Speaker 3: Angela Rye, who's the boss, lady of the whole thing.
28:25
Speaker 1: She is the boss.
28:26
Speaker 3: She doesn't like when we say that, but she is
28:28
Speaker 3: definitely bass. I tell people she's the boss, she's my boss,
28:32
Speaker 3: and I'm afraid, yeah no. But she's actually really operating
28:36
Speaker 3: from a space of love for our people and keeping
28:39
Speaker 3: this tour together. And I'm really excited that both of
28:44
Speaker 3: them encouraged us to do our podcast live from here
28:47
Speaker 3: and give people the content straight from the community, the leaders,
28:51
Speaker 3: the local community, it's just you know, the people from
28:53
Speaker 3: national organizations.
28:55
Speaker 1: Having everybody come together, it feels.
28:57
Speaker 3: Exactly like what we're supposed to be doing, how we're
29:01
Speaker 3: supposed to be using our time, and I want to
29:04
Speaker 3: do something a little different. In this segment, Mysan had
29:07
Speaker 3: to leave us to go do a Boycott Black Murder
29:11
Speaker 3: workshop along with attorney Angelo Pinto, who's one of the
29:15
Speaker 3: four co founders of Until Freedom.
29:16
Speaker 1: They are in a.
29:17
Speaker 3: Workshop now talking with the community about how we deal
29:21
Speaker 3: with violence in our community. And you know, there are
29:23
Speaker 3: so many I say this all the time, that there
29:27
Speaker 3: are so many cities across this country who've never been
29:30
Speaker 3: able to depend on national and sometimes local government to
29:33
Speaker 3: help them fight fight anything right and specifically deal with
29:38
Speaker 3: crime and to deal with community public safety. They had
29:42
Speaker 3: to find their own models. Some of it is volunteerism.
29:45
Speaker 3: Some of it they can get money their tax dollars
29:47
Speaker 3: from the mayors and local city government. Some of it
29:51
Speaker 3: is raising money from whoever influencers, lawyers, and whoever they
29:55
Speaker 3: can get it.
29:56
Speaker 1: From to do the work that they do every day.
29:59
Speaker 3: And if we're not up blo lifting that on this tour,
30:01
Speaker 3: then the tour is without purpose.
30:03
Speaker 1: The whole point of this tour is to show people.
30:05
Speaker 3: We don't we don't have Yeah, we should have them
30:08
Speaker 3: the leaders, but.
30:10
Speaker 1: We got us.
30:10
Speaker 3: That's right, and that's so important. And I wanted to
30:14
Speaker 3: do something different here, which is to do a little
30:17
Speaker 3: rapid fire conversation because Karen, you know, she's on TV,
30:21
Speaker 3: Karen Finnie, who I will introduce both of these beautiful
30:24
Speaker 3: women on herself just but Karen Finny is on TV
30:28
Speaker 3: all the time and she does rapid fire very well.
30:30
Speaker 3: And I and I and I think in the spirit
30:33
Speaker 3: of one of the things that Angela has consistently sort
30:36
Speaker 3: of been I don't want to use word drill because
30:38
Speaker 3: she'll be upset that we'm saying drill like she's a
30:41
Speaker 3: dream start us.
30:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, highlighted, emphasize. Is this idea.
30:47
Speaker 3: That we have to have strategy and process right and
30:52
Speaker 3: I think the two of you represent that well. Strategy, process, strategy, process, right,
30:59
Speaker 3: How we how do we get it done? So when
31:01
Speaker 3: we talk about an issue right now, what does the
31:04
Speaker 3: local community do to address that? What doesn't some of
31:08
Speaker 3: our people don't think elections have anything to do with
31:11
Speaker 3: the larger issues right right? And I and it scares
31:15
Speaker 3: me there are people don't be knowing. Sometimes I'm like, hey, yeah,
31:20
Speaker 3: yeah we can, we can actually work on that.
31:22
Speaker 1: But just talk to Karen about the consent.
31:24
Speaker 3: Well, let me first of all introduce you all properly
31:26
Speaker 3: and y'all to y'all my sisters. But I need to
31:29
Speaker 3: say it from the reading, just say whatever it because
31:33
Speaker 3: it's too It's just it's just too important in that
31:36
Speaker 3: they got too much going on, Ryan Butden and too
31:38
Speaker 3: much going on. So it's just this, This is my
31:42
Speaker 3: two am buddy, do Wanna Thompson. We talk on the
31:45
Speaker 3: phone at two o'clock in the morning, try to get
31:48
Speaker 3: black folks straight and sod. Wanna Thompson is a season
31:52
Speaker 3: political and social strategist. She leads Black Equity Strategy and Trust.
31:59
Speaker 3: She is called founder and Chief Strategy Officer for Aqena Technologies,
32:04
Speaker 3: the first black owned, black female led AI tech firm
32:09
Speaker 3: specializing in a culturally competent generative Okay, a high language
32:17
Speaker 3: model and social connect tool so chat GPT on steroids
32:21
Speaker 3: for black people okay. Do Wanna is the founder of
32:25
Speaker 3: Woke Vote, which I have the pleasure in my organization
32:28
Speaker 3: until freedom to work with all the time on projects.
32:31
Speaker 3: An organization designed to engage, mobilized and turn out African
32:36
Speaker 3: American voters in the South through campus and faith based outreach,
32:40
Speaker 3: culturally relevant and data driven GOOTV get out the vote
32:45
Speaker 3: efforts and training for new organizers. Duanna the Bad Girl Period.
32:52
Speaker 3: And then Karen Finney who is a political strategist CNN
32:56
Speaker 3: commentator who built her career of more in thirty years
33:01
Speaker 3: at the intersection of politics, media and cultural change. As
33:06
Speaker 3: a consultant, Karen focuses on electing women and.
33:10
Speaker 1: People of color.
33:12
Speaker 3: Also, she is a convener of the Black Women's Leadership Collective,
33:17
Speaker 3: one of our tour partners.
33:19
Speaker 1: Okay, Holly Holliday's in the wing as well. These are
33:22
Speaker 1: powerful women here, and my thing is like.
33:25
Speaker 3: We got all this, all of us in our community.
33:29
Speaker 5: Brilliant.
33:30
Speaker 3: If you were here to if you were here for
33:35
Speaker 3: our segment with Pastor Mike McBride and Tef Poe, we
33:39
Speaker 3: had all this proof, okay, if you were here to
33:42
Speaker 3: hear Attorney Lanita Baker and Attorney Angela Ryan, we got
33:46
Speaker 3: all this. We have so much in our community and
33:48
Speaker 3: so we're going to do this rapid fire conversation. We
33:51
Speaker 3: talked with Attorney Baker and Attorney Rye Angela and Lanita
33:56
Speaker 3: about the consent decree here in little you know, in
34:01
Speaker 3: my I don't know if this if you the two
34:03
Speaker 3: of you feel this way, but throughout my career, every
34:06
Speaker 3: time I'm working on something, God moves, and it's not
34:10
Speaker 3: always in a good way, right, Like some things don't
34:14
Speaker 3: be it don't feel good, right, but he always moves.
34:17
Speaker 1: So we're getting ready to come to Louisville. Everything is,
34:20
Speaker 1: you know, Louisville needs help.
34:22
Speaker 3: Of course, we need help everywhere, right, black folks, everybody
34:25
Speaker 3: need help. But then the consent decree issue comes up
34:30
Speaker 3: and the Trump administration. The work that so many people
34:33
Speaker 3: have done to get the federal government to come in
34:37
Speaker 3: here and say you have to change the culture of policing,
34:41
Speaker 3: this has now just been disbanded.
34:43
Speaker 1: Just like this.
34:43
Speaker 3: They have just decided to strip it away and they're
34:48
Speaker 3: no longer in the Department of Justice going to continue
34:51
Speaker 3: that work.
34:52
Speaker 1: And so I want you to.
34:53
Speaker 3: Talk Karen about the impact of that. But then Dowanna,
34:57
Speaker 3: the question remained, the people can still do something, so
35:02
Speaker 3: the mayor can do something.
35:04
Speaker 1: So what does that look like? So go ahead?
35:06
Speaker 8: Is so I think we got it, and thank you
35:08
Speaker 8: so much. You know, I love being here. I love
35:09
Speaker 8: being here with you all the brilliance, especially because I
35:13
Speaker 8: do feel like, sometimes, you know, we forget that people's
35:16
Speaker 8: lives don't change that much from presidential election to presidential election.
35:20
Speaker 8: That's why being out here reminding people of what we
35:24
Speaker 8: have in our own community is so important. We have
35:26
Speaker 8: to make the change, we have to make it happen.
35:29
Speaker 8: And so with this consent decree, partially it's another reminder
35:33
Speaker 8: that this man who is in the way, he does
35:35
Speaker 8: not care, and he is telling all the people that
35:39
Speaker 8: we have been fighting. It's okay, I got you. I mean,
35:43
Speaker 8: the consent decree, obviously here in Louisville, has very specific meaning.
35:48
Speaker 8: And you did it, and I know Brion Taylor's mother did.
35:50
Speaker 8: But it also sends a message to police departments around
35:54
Speaker 8: the country that they are free to do what they
35:58
Speaker 8: want to do, how they want to do it. And
36:01
Speaker 8: that's dangerous for us. That is dangerous for black and
36:04
Speaker 8: brown people, particularly at the time when they're already taking
36:07
Speaker 8: people off the streets, these ice officers, right, So we
36:13
Speaker 8: just have to be mindful. We've known they don't have
36:15
Speaker 8: our back. We don't have to fight for everything. But
36:17
Speaker 8: I think it's important and I think we have to
36:19
Speaker 8: connect the dots because the other thing that happened is
36:21
Speaker 8: real quick we saw more pardons, and these pardons are
36:25
Speaker 8: telling us something very important. Number One, that he's normalizing
36:30
Speaker 8: white collar crimes because he's a criminal himself, so he's
36:34
Speaker 8: trying to say it's okay, it's all right, I got
36:37
Speaker 8: you for a certain that's right, and for a certain
36:41
Speaker 8: amount of money. At the same time, who did he
36:45
Speaker 8: start with the January sixth rioters? His own in house militia.
36:51
Speaker 8: So at the same time he's normalizing one kind of
36:55
Speaker 8: crime for one kind of people, he's telling another group
36:58
Speaker 8: of people, you want to do what you want, I
37:00
Speaker 8: got your bay, and we have to stay focused on
37:05
Speaker 8: fighting these fights, holding people account. I know you're going
37:08
Speaker 8: to talk about this to war, but calling it out
37:11
Speaker 8: is important, and connecting all these dots is important too,
37:15
Speaker 8: because that whole picture tells us what he's really trying
37:19
Speaker 8: to do here.
37:21
Speaker 3: I feel like what's important to note is that because
37:25
Speaker 3: people have been disconnected from the political process a lot
37:28
Speaker 3: of times, that also means that they're disconnected from how
37:31
Speaker 3: the process works, right, And so we have to go
37:34
Speaker 3: back to really teaching people how is a.
37:37
Speaker 11: Bill made, what is a part of that's why, what are.
37:39
Speaker 3: These things, so that they can begin to reimagine what
37:43
Speaker 3: the structure is or what we imagine what the strategy
37:47
Speaker 3: can be when these things are happening. Part of the
37:50
Speaker 3: reason why they're doing so much of this in rapid
37:52
Speaker 3: fire is because they realize that if they do it quickly,
37:56
Speaker 3: some of us cannot respond as quickly as they are, right,
38:01
Speaker 3: because we haven't set up the strategies, we haven't set
38:04
Speaker 3: up the relationships, we haven't really been thinking five and
38:07
Speaker 3: teen years down the road, which is really the essence
38:10
Speaker 3: of paramatic Right. Yeah, we understand that there are some
38:13
Speaker 3: things that can only happen at the national.
38:15
Speaker 11: Level, but pretty much if you I got my start.
38:17
Speaker 3: In municipal government, and I will tell you that pretty
38:20
Speaker 3: much everything that impacts your day to day life starts
38:22
Speaker 3: on the local level.
38:23
Speaker 5: Watch and so you have to be.
38:25
Speaker 3: Tapped into who is your city council person, who is
38:28
Speaker 3: your mayor, who is your commissioner, who is the dog catcher?
38:32
Speaker 11: That is important school board, right, that is important.
38:35
Speaker 3: It is because we need to get people who have
38:36
Speaker 3: our justice lens and who understand policy and who also
38:41
Speaker 3: understand movement. We need to get them position to be
38:46
Speaker 3: in those roles so that when things start coming down
38:49
Speaker 3: and we start to see shifts in the national administration
38:52
Speaker 3: and in the agenda, we've already got people who are
38:55
Speaker 3: thinking differently about how they use these local roles. It's
38:58
Speaker 3: how they use these local opportunities to push back. So
39:02
Speaker 3: I come from a city from Birmingham, Alabama. Right, we
39:05
Speaker 3: have been trying to change the minimum wage in Birmingham
39:08
Speaker 3: for years. We have a mayor who literally changed the
39:10
Speaker 3: minimum wage three times. What happened is when it got
39:14
Speaker 3: to the state level, it got pushed back down and
39:17
Speaker 3: now they created a policy at the state level that
39:20
Speaker 3: says a city cannot change this minimum wage.
39:23
Speaker 11: They did that in direct response to what he was doing.
39:27
Speaker 3: And so what that means is we got to get
39:29
Speaker 3: the folk at the state level out.
39:31
Speaker 11: But we should have did that the first time they
39:33
Speaker 11: came back and said the city couldn't do it. We
39:35
Speaker 11: should have gone back at that time.
39:36
Speaker 3: And so it is really looking strategically about what's what
39:40
Speaker 3: government components handle, what what leaders handle, what who do
39:44
Speaker 3: we have in those roles and in those spaces. So, yeah,
39:47
Speaker 3: voting is not always the sexiest thing to do.
39:49
Speaker 6: It's not.
39:50
Speaker 11: It's not the only way to liberation, but it is
39:52
Speaker 11: a strategic, strategic.
39:54
Speaker 3: Tool to get people he think, like us in spaces
39:57
Speaker 3: to be able to activate for us when they can.
39:59
Speaker 8: But you you know, you just said something really important too,
40:01
Speaker 8: which is it's voting is like one part. The other
40:04
Speaker 8: part is holding people accountable.
40:06
Speaker 1: They work for us, right.
40:08
Speaker 8: They want our vote, they want our money, they want
40:11
Speaker 8: our support, Then they better deliver results. And I do
40:14
Speaker 8: think sometimes we forget that, We forget after the fact,
40:16
Speaker 8: like wait a second, no, no, no, no, no. You may
40:20
Speaker 8: have these big donors, but you wanted our votes, and
40:22
Speaker 8: if you want them again, don't come back here. That's right, right,
40:25
Speaker 8: don't show up six weeks before. I think we're just
40:28
Speaker 8: gonna step and fetch and jump.
40:30
Speaker 1: That's right.
40:31
Speaker 3: Delivering results one of the issues that has me literally heartbroken.
40:36
Speaker 3: I was yelling at the TV and the walls and
40:39
Speaker 3: anybody who would listen. In fact, I was walking through
40:42
Speaker 3: the airport and I tried to say it as loud
40:44
Speaker 3: as possible so that any white person that walked past
40:48
Speaker 3: me that potentially voted for Donna Trump would hear it.
40:51
Speaker 3: On my way to the plane, and I was saying
40:54
Speaker 3: words that I cannot that will not be allowed on YouTube.
40:57
Speaker 1: They may play this not I.
40:59
Speaker 3: Really was because that job court situation has me no,
41:05
Speaker 3: very very upset. You see, I grew up in the
41:09
Speaker 3: housing projects in Harlem, New York, where they would put
41:13
Speaker 3: a flyer up on top of the buttons in the building.
41:17
Speaker 3: That's a big deal in the projects. Anybody live in
41:19
Speaker 3: a project, you know, you know y'all organized in the projects.
41:24
Speaker 1: You know, when the flyer goes up, it.
41:26
Speaker 3: Can be a funeral announcement, or it could be a resource.
41:31
Speaker 1: It can you know, anything that goes up there. You
41:33
Speaker 1: look at it.
41:34
Speaker 3: I'm trying to come in the door, and your mama
41:36
Speaker 3: definitely looks at it, and your dad because they know
41:39
Speaker 3: this is important. Safety notices one of the things that
41:42
Speaker 3: I remember being up there was an invitation to apply
41:47
Speaker 3: for job court. Yes, and I know young people whose
41:51
Speaker 3: parents were struggling who sent their children a job cort
41:55
Speaker 3: and the next time you saw them, these kids were different,
42:00
Speaker 3: became adults who had a place to go and they
42:03
Speaker 3: lived there. They became productive, they had a trade when
42:09
Speaker 3: they left.
42:09
Speaker 1: Job a court.
42:10
Speaker 3: I don't have a clue why anybody would think that
42:14
Speaker 3: that should be taken away from any community, because it's
42:17
Speaker 3: not just black and brown folks.
42:20
Speaker 1: This is all communities that use job cort. Yes, this
42:24
Speaker 1: has me very upset. And to see people.
42:26
Speaker 3: I watched a woman say I was supposed to get
42:28
Speaker 3: a breast cancer surgery. She said, as a mother, this
42:32
Speaker 3: is what she was going to do. She already has
42:35
Speaker 3: housing issues. I know a lot of us were so privileged.
42:37
Speaker 3: We don't even know what it means. They're like, oh,
42:39
Speaker 3: she's not getting a job. Yeah, she she has housing issues.
42:43
Speaker 3: She found the place to be so that she could
42:45
Speaker 3: go home and heal from a breast operation. Her son
42:50
Speaker 3: was released from job cord and now she has to
42:55
Speaker 3: reschedule her breast appointment, her breast surgery appointment.
42:59
Speaker 1: Because she needs to figure out where he is going
43:02
Speaker 1: to live.
43:02
Speaker 8: That's right.
43:03
Speaker 1: This is serious and I want you, Karen, to talk
43:08
Speaker 1: about what you see as the impact. Do you hear
43:10
Speaker 1: on TV? Is anybody even talking seriousness?
43:14
Speaker 8: Not enough? I mean, look, we are seeing in different stays,
43:19
Speaker 8: even Republican members, because they're hearing from people in their
43:23
Speaker 8: their voters. Their phones are ringing off hook I mean
43:26
Speaker 8: people think sometimes they ask like does that really matter? Absolutely?
43:29
Speaker 3: Yeah.
43:29
Speaker 8: They track the mails, they track how many calls they get,
43:32
Speaker 8: they track social media, so it actually all matters. So
43:35
Speaker 8: we should all be screaming at the top of our
43:37
Speaker 8: lungs because the point is they don't care. That's why
43:41
Speaker 8: they cut it. Why because he wants to give a
43:44
Speaker 8: cut to billionaires.
43:45
Speaker 1: Right, So this is part of the waste, fraud and abuse.
43:49
Speaker 8: Right, This is part of what they're going to do
43:50
Speaker 8: to medicaid where ten thirteen million people could lose their
43:55
Speaker 8: health insurance.
43:57
Speaker 3: Right.
43:57
Speaker 8: These are people who need that and all these things.
44:00
Speaker 8: When we see this and we say, wait a second,
44:03
Speaker 8: that doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make sense unless
44:06
Speaker 8: you remember he's got a different goal than we do.
44:09
Speaker 5: Wow, Wow, So.
44:10
Speaker 1: What whatere do wanna? So now what because you know
44:13
Speaker 1: how city budgets work. That's it sall.
44:16
Speaker 3: That's the problem with do wanna she'd be like, yeah,
44:19
Speaker 3: I he you miss the mayor, but you could actually
44:21
Speaker 3: do steps one, three, three, four and this is a
44:25
Speaker 3: this is a a you know it might be a
44:27
Speaker 3: little hot. But let me just say sometimes we as
44:31
Speaker 3: organizers are ahead of our time. So when we were
44:35
Speaker 3: saying defund the police, which by the way, nobody said
44:39
Speaker 3: abolish the police, right, we set defund which needs to
44:42
Speaker 3: drop that budget down a little bit, right Ravins and
44:46
Speaker 3: I hold people, I don't care if you call it hot,
44:49
Speaker 3: scotch and pop.
44:50
Speaker 1: Do what take away the defund you don't like the
44:53
Speaker 1: word call or whatever you know, Jesus come, I don't care.
44:57
Speaker 1: What we mean is redistrict you the fun? Yes.
45:01
Speaker 3: So now you have to have mayors who had and
45:05
Speaker 3: state level governments who had the foresight and the interest
45:09
Speaker 3: in the people to say we were opening these programs
45:12
Speaker 3: back up, We're gonna take a little money from the
45:15
Speaker 3: places that have overblown budgets. Not don't go take it
45:18
Speaker 3: from education and housing they are already struggling. But your
45:23
Speaker 3: police budgets that don't need a new bazooka.
45:27
Speaker 1: In a local community.
45:29
Speaker 3: Why can't we take a little bit of money from
45:31
Speaker 3: there and shift it? And so what do you think
45:33
Speaker 3: local governments can do? So the first thing any budget
45:38
Speaker 3: is a moral that it tells you what could care
45:40
Speaker 3: about and what they are imagining is possible, what they
45:43
Speaker 3: think is both valued. So the first thing is we
45:46
Speaker 3: got to know what's in the budget, right, we have
45:48
Speaker 3: to understand how our budgets, how the city budgets work.
45:52
Speaker 3: As the chairwoman for the Housing Authority for the City
45:54
Speaker 3: of Birmingham, which I am, I can tell you I
45:57
Speaker 3: want to go back to the job.
46:06
Speaker 8: Because I want to go back to the job for.
46:07
Speaker 11: Thing really quickly is that you have to remember that
46:11
Speaker 11: for some people.
46:12
Speaker 3: Job for was their own way out place system that
46:16
Speaker 3: already held us that and that's that an economics. So
46:20
Speaker 3: when you think about job for not being available, but
46:22
Speaker 3: you are also telling people in this generation and right
46:26
Speaker 3: now to pull your stuff up by your own bootstrap.
46:29
Speaker 3: But yet every single strap has been cut off. That
46:32
Speaker 3: leads to hopelessness. And so what we have to really
46:35
Speaker 3: begin to do is deterimine who I know job for
46:38
Speaker 3: was important, But there are other organizations and study organizations
46:42
Speaker 3: that provide jobs for our young people, readiness opportunities for
46:48
Speaker 3: our young people. It is time to we distribute their
46:51
Speaker 3: wealth and those budgets to those programs that have already
46:55
Speaker 3: exist there and do the same thing track job Or did.
46:59
Speaker 3: But now, okay, we don't want to do it on
47:00
Speaker 3: a national level. We have had multiple organizations who have
47:04
Speaker 3: packed rights who didn't have a fund. But by providing
47:07
Speaker 3: housing is a particular thing that job Corps does, yes,
47:12
Speaker 3: that we also need to build in so we need
47:14
Speaker 3: to expand as much.
47:15
Speaker 11: Every city, every city government has a community development to perk.
47:19
Speaker 3: They get community development rents, why rents, all kinds of
47:22
Speaker 3: different things that.
47:23
Speaker 11: They go to.
47:24
Speaker 3: You know, it's a long process of it, but the
47:26
Speaker 3: point is is that they get resources specifically for that
47:29
Speaker 3: kind of programming, and they're supposed to, if they are
47:32
Speaker 3: really being intentional, they're supposed to align that process with
47:36
Speaker 3: their public housing authorities, their public education spaces, all of
47:39
Speaker 3: their resources, public resource access points. They're supposed to be
47:43
Speaker 3: a collaborative process of how all of those things work together.
47:47
Speaker 3: So when you go back to the budget and you
47:49
Speaker 3: see that parks and recreation, which yes, it is important
47:52
Speaker 3: that we have parts of recreation, yes, since.
47:54
Speaker 11: Our babies don't have no where to go, all right,
47:56
Speaker 11: So but when.
47:57
Speaker 3: Parks and recreation is only getting five dollars, but you know,
48:00
Speaker 3: so the organization that only can do one event a
48:03
Speaker 3: year is getting two hundred thousand dollars.
48:06
Speaker 11: That's the why you begin to see that sten is.
48:08
Speaker 3: Tokey conservation, which we want conservation, but but who's usually
48:13
Speaker 3: in that.
48:14
Speaker 1: It's usually white folks in conservation, and our is.
48:18
Speaker 8: They're causing on too, by the way, there's curtain a
48:20
Speaker 8: lot of that too.
48:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are, they are setting it in certain spaces.
48:25
Speaker 3: And this is why redlining, all the different things, it
48:28
Speaker 3: all comes together. And so what what we can do
48:30
Speaker 3: as individuals is to know the pledget is to push
48:33
Speaker 3: that on how those resources are being used. You also
48:37
Speaker 3: have to be intentional about supporting and uplifting the resources
48:40
Speaker 3: of the organizations in our own and putting them in
48:44
Speaker 3: front of the mayor, putting that, you know, lobbying on
48:47
Speaker 3: their behalf and at these places, because sometimes people don't
48:50
Speaker 3: even know that those things exist in the mayor's off
48:52
Speaker 3: to be honest, that's right.
48:53
Speaker 11: So we have to take some of that stuff.
48:55
Speaker 3: And at the forefront of their of their of their agendas,
48:59
Speaker 3: to make sure they're aware.
49:00
Speaker 8: I think that's part of why this is an intergenerational
49:02
Speaker 8: moment as well, because you know, younger folks can learn
49:05
Speaker 8: from older folks about maybe there's some strategies that, like
49:09
Speaker 8: you said, people don't know or hadn't done. Let's go
49:11
Speaker 8: find out. Let's work together. And it's part of why
49:13
Speaker 8: I Stay of the people is so important because it's
49:16
Speaker 8: building this national network and connection and I hope these
49:19
Speaker 8: connections in these communities where we've been going in the
49:23
Speaker 8: ten cities and we've got more coming up. Stay together,
49:27
Speaker 8: because that's how we're gonna your point doing, That's how
49:30
Speaker 8: we build that power because if ten people are standing
49:33
Speaker 8: in front of the mayor or the city council, that's
49:36
Speaker 8: harder to ignore than when it's one person on their own.
49:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, that last thing, and we'll rap up
49:42
Speaker 3: what has been your most inspirational part of being organized
49:49
Speaker 3: on the State of the People Power Tour.
49:53
Speaker 1: Oh my lord, I mean, look, I'll be rather naughty.
50:00
Speaker 1: They know it not.
50:01
Speaker 3: It's hard work.
50:03
Speaker 8: It goes you know, for me, it goes back to
50:06
Speaker 8: how just depressed I felt after the election. And understanding
50:12
Speaker 8: that the that the part of the goal we do
50:14
Speaker 8: need to understand this, Like you said, doing so much
50:17
Speaker 8: so fast is also to exhaust us, to overwhelm us.
50:22
Speaker 8: And so for me, it felt like an opportunity to
50:25
Speaker 8: regroup with my people and to kind of come together
50:30
Speaker 8: in community, to get to work with people like you
50:33
Speaker 8: that I admire, who I didn't know. You know, we
50:35
Speaker 8: hadn't worked together directly anymore, and so, you know, Black
50:39
Speaker 8: Women's Leadership Collective got to give a little plug, you know.
50:42
Speaker 8: That's part of what we try to do is bring
50:44
Speaker 8: different Black women's leadership groups together. This is obviously, this
50:48
Speaker 8: is intergenerational. This is you know, people from all different
50:51
Speaker 8: parts of our community. So for me, that's been the
50:55
Speaker 8: most inspirational. It's just people just pouring in.
51:00
Speaker 1: We've been in this Karen.
51:02
Speaker 3: I mean, I see your name popping up on the
51:04
Speaker 3: signal thread every hour of the day. All nice.
51:09
Speaker 1: I mean, you have really turned your yea, you turned
51:16
Speaker 1: on you turned.
51:18
Speaker 3: On some old school skills, right your your beginning skills
51:23
Speaker 3: of being very administratively oriented.
51:26
Speaker 1: You done brought that back into the next name. Because
51:29
Speaker 1: you're the great Karen Finny, like you're on TD.
51:32
Speaker 3: You could show up here and say, I'll moderate panels,
51:37
Speaker 3: I'll talk to you know, keeople, I'll go out in
51:40
Speaker 3: the community and interview people. But you had actually been
51:43
Speaker 3: behind the scenes pushing paper. Yes, I am very grateful
51:47
Speaker 3: for that. You show them out as someone who has
51:50
Speaker 3: been on my book tour. Usually it's Dwanna and me
51:53
Speaker 3: and we just all in and you know, making it happen.
51:56
Speaker 3: And a lot of people know that I'm the type
51:58
Speaker 3: of person that I started Pride and then I drag
52:01
Speaker 3: it all the way to the last minute, you know.
52:03
Speaker 3: But I have been on my book tour at the
52:05
Speaker 3: same time with this tour, so I haven't been able
52:08
Speaker 3: to do as much as I would like to do.
52:10
Speaker 1: But I feel covered.
52:12
Speaker 3: YEA, Like when I show up, I'm like, damn, we're
52:15
Speaker 3: doing this. What I've been doing, just so everybody knows,
52:18
Speaker 3: is being behind the scenes taking phone calls from people
52:21
Speaker 3: who are saying they hate us and they want to
52:24
Speaker 3: and they want to quit, and then they love us
52:26
Speaker 3: and they do this beautiful thing and it's it.
52:29
Speaker 1: All worked out. Somehow. I have become what is that? No,
52:38
Speaker 1: I'm like, what she stepped on my toe?
52:41
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, what I know about that, I
52:43
Speaker 3: know about that stuff on my toe. But you know,
52:46
Speaker 3: I love the fact that that each one of us
52:49
Speaker 3: has found something that we can do. So do wanna
52:53
Speaker 3: you close us out and telling us what is the thing?
52:58
Speaker 3: What is the thing that has been the most inspirational
53:03
Speaker 3: for you? Especially when you're like, oh, I'm done, that's it,
53:06
Speaker 3: I'm finished, and then you're And then the next day
53:08
Speaker 3: I'm like, shit to wanna say?
53:09
Speaker 1: She out this time? And then the next day I'm like, do.
53:12
Speaker 3: You wanna what you did all of this today? I
53:16
Speaker 3: think for me, the rect the workshops that have helped
53:21
Speaker 3: people to realign with what they already I think, you know,
53:25
Speaker 3: we do a powermat and work of it each one
53:27
Speaker 3: of these four stops.
53:28
Speaker 11: Which reminds people of how much access.
53:30
Speaker 3: That they already have to resource, wow, to free spaces,
53:35
Speaker 3: to money. I don't think there's one city where we've
53:38
Speaker 3: gone through where in five minutes in that one we
53:41
Speaker 3: had raised one hundred thousand dollars. If they really needed
53:43
Speaker 3: to do, WE want that they had identified ten different
53:45
Speaker 3: free locations that they can host off if they didn't
53:48
Speaker 3: identify twelve different people who can rune the office that
53:51
Speaker 3: day in just one session.
53:53
Speaker 11: And I think watching.
53:53
Speaker 3: People's imagination open up again to like, man, we actually
53:57
Speaker 3: got everything would be we really do? That is the
54:00
Speaker 3: most beautiful thing because that's gonna last beyond us being
54:03
Speaker 3: in the city. Is that like that, that reimagination and
54:06
Speaker 3: that opening again of like we have every single.
54:10
Speaker 1: Thing that we need.
54:10
Speaker 11: Yes, you just gotta beized.
54:13
Speaker 3: What are some of the resources we provided to people
54:15
Speaker 3: here in Louisville and other places around the country, Like,
54:17
Speaker 3: what are those those resources been?
54:20
Speaker 11: It's been a lie.
54:20
Speaker 3: First of all, shout out to the Google team that
54:23
Speaker 3: brought all this stuff.
54:23
Speaker 1: To the cool Ayden's coming right at all.
54:27
Speaker 3: The different people and everyone who came together that I saw.
54:30
Speaker 3: We had so many different things. Well my favorite one
54:33
Speaker 3: of the other things. One was a fire a weapons
54:36
Speaker 3: preparedness class around protection.
54:41
Speaker 10: Wow.
54:41
Speaker 3: And I think that is important because we that was here,
54:44
Speaker 3: that was here, Oh wow, I didn't know that.
54:45
Speaker 11: And I think that.
54:46
Speaker 3: I think it's important because we as people should feel
54:48
Speaker 3: comfortable with protecting ourselves but also being accountable to that right.
54:52
Speaker 3: I love that there was that class here to teach
54:55
Speaker 3: that around that.
54:57
Speaker 11: That say, the second thing that I loved was the gardens.
54:59
Speaker 3: They gave everybody specialized gardens to be able to start
55:03
Speaker 3: planting fruit and seed a different things in there. It
55:06
Speaker 3: was out there digging up dirt, up the dirt and
55:08
Speaker 3: making sure.
55:09
Speaker 1: I was like what.
55:12
Speaker 8: Goat first time, I was like, wait, you're gonna do what?
55:14
Speaker 3: The garden beds beds, no real goats, not like goats
55:20
Speaker 3: was out there. Yes that they brought that and reminded
55:26
Speaker 3: us that we have a special relationship with the earth,
55:29
Speaker 3: but we have an ability to food to take care
55:32
Speaker 3: of our own.
55:33
Speaker 11: So that was done here in Louisville.
55:34
Speaker 1: Specifically some other cities. What was some of the resources.
55:37
Speaker 11: Yes, food giveaway.
55:43
Speaker 8: Visiting people in jail.
55:46
Speaker 5: I mean.
55:50
Speaker 3: That's right, y'all know, I gotta blow this up. I'm sorry.
55:54
Speaker 3: I had to say it.
55:55
Speaker 1: And we're done. Just so people, not just so people know.
56:01
Speaker 3: These great folks were in New Orleans, Louisiana with our
56:05
Speaker 3: dear brother Gary Chambers and our brother Emil Washington, who
56:10
Speaker 3: were the two leads of the New Orleans Tour.
56:13
Speaker 1: Star on day whatever we went, they went. I didn't go.
56:18
Speaker 3: To the city, to the city of New Orleans to
56:22
Speaker 3: do the tour stop.
56:23
Speaker 1: They went into a particular jail.
56:26
Speaker 3: They met with some incarcerated individuals and then days later,
56:32
Speaker 3: a week to be exactly, eleven or ten eleven of.
56:38
Speaker 1: Some of those people. We're not saying that y'all met
56:40
Speaker 1: with them or anything like that.
56:42
Speaker 3: Okay, rightly, these individuals escaped from the same exact deal.
56:50
Speaker 3: I didn't realize, Yeah, the over lot, it was over
56:54
Speaker 3: a week later, so we cannot be associating anyway. So
57:02
Speaker 3: but you know, but there is a young man who
57:06
Speaker 3: I think he's one of the last two who's on
57:09
Speaker 3: the run. He did a video saying that he's in
57:11
Speaker 3: and said, I don't know anything about that. We're not
57:13
Speaker 3: going to make a statement about that, but what I
57:15
Speaker 3: would say is that at least I know in that
57:18
Speaker 3: young man's case, several of his family members have been
57:21
Speaker 3: arrested for helping him.
57:24
Speaker 1: They say, you know, allegedly, allegedly.
57:27
Speaker 3: And I don't know what's happening with the other guy.
57:29
Speaker 3: And what I would say is that I don't want
57:31
Speaker 3: anybody to be incarcerated, but I know that if it's
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Speaker 3: going to impact your family, you need to be mindful
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