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Emerald Tablets of Thoth – Atlantis Secrets Revealed | Billy Carson & Timothy Hogan · 4biddenknowledge Podcast

• 2:43
  SPEAKER_00: We find this later emphasized as well when he's leading the uh the Hebrews in the desert, and uh he needs to cure them of snake bites, so he he erects uh uh a staff in the desert with a uh it with a serpent on it to to help cure them of snake bites.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: And it should be pointed out that um Nikola Tesla actually believed that uh this was really the foundation of his his uh Tesla coil because the word for copper in Hebrew is nehesh, and the word for serpent in in Hebrew is nehash.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_00: So copper and and serpent were pretty much the same word.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_00: So if you made a coil out of just like a a serpent will coil itself, if you make a co a co a serp uh coil out of copper, um you know, you could create this Tesla coil, and and if you you apply electricity to snake venom, the proteins actually separate, and so it it's no longer poisonous to a person.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_00: So wow.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, that so there was real science there, uh advanced science, uh, if if you accept that theory, as Nikola Tesla did, uh, that uh you know goes back to toth and and is being preserved in the Torah or or the Old Testament uh related to Moses himself.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_01: So right, exactly.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_01: You can see the influence there.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_01: And isn't that the same symbol still today for a medical or for the it is, yeah, that's exactly right.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and you find that symbol, by the way, you you know, you find the symbol, of course, the Greeks utilize it.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_00: You you find it on the Egyptian temple walls, but but you also find it as far away as Mongolia and India and uh and and other places and their art and their tapestries, you know, related to the same idea.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_00: So it's it's really uh again, we're good talking about that universal idea.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_01: Right, exactly.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_00: And oh, I'm sorry, one other thing.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_00: When when you we find it associated with the Caduces of the American Medical Association, of course, you have a you have a staff, you have the two serpents going up it to a pinnacle, which then has wings, right?
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_00: So we're combining the the serpents with the the wings, right?
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh or or the flying serpent, which is of course the same symbol that we find uh associated with Quatsukotal, yes, and and others in the Americas.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_00: So it's a again, it's a universal idea.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, universal.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_01: And so a lot of this predates even the birth of Michael Doriel, for example.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_00: So oh, completely, yeah.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_00: Completely, yeah.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, yeah.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's going back.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, even the Emerald Tablet talks about this idea, the the singular emerald tablet, you know, one of the the first ideas it suggests is as above so below, right?
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_00: Well, this is really what's being emphasized symbolically as well between the serpents and and the birds, right?
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because the the serpent crawls on the ground on the below, and the and the birds fly in the above, right?
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_00: So a winged serpent would be a combination of as above, so below.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_00: And and even Jesus himself said, Be wise as serpents and gentle as doves, right?
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_00: Again, yeah, combination of the above and the below, the the the serpent and the bird, you know.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_00: So it it it it carries over uh into many uh in many different ways.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_01: Incredible.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_01: And so some of the alchemical texts describe the emerald tabs of Hermes as a key to unlocking the philosopher's stone.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_01: So now we're getting into alchemy.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_01: Do you know anything about the correlation between those two?
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, completely.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, I mean the the the philosopher's stone, of course, was this substance that was said to be able to raise consciousness, heal the body, and transmute base metals into gold, right?
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um really in this part of is what Isaac Newton was trying to study, as well as uh Robert Boyle and uh uh Jean Theophilus Desigalier and Robert Moray and and others who were members of the Royal Society.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but they they um according to their tradition, you know, as as they outlined it, they believed and Benjamin Franklin too also was studying this amongst others, but like uh according to them, the secret salt of alchemy was this monoatomic gold, which uh could be found on the Egyptian temple walls, uh as you're familiar with.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_00: And uh and uh but you also find it in in Indian alchemy, uh in called the Rasayana uh alchemy, which was uh the name of alchemy in Egypt in ancient India and other places around the world, ancient China, again it's universal, yeah.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but that secret salt, according to tradition, the the the philosopher's stone had three parts they had uh salt, a sulfur, and a mercury.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_00: And the secret salt was this monoatomic gold.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_00: And so once you figured out the other two parts, you could combine them in such a way to produce this philosopher's stone, right, which was able to do all these things.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um that secret salt, however, was also referred to as mana in the Bible, and we find it uh in uh Vedic traditions as referred to as Vimana, yeah, uh, which was also associated with flying craft, and we find it in Sumerian myths as Shimana, which was also associated with flying crafts of the Anunnaki.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_00: So there's a connection between this mana and and levitation, uh and in in uh in uh the Torah, uh this mana was stored in the Ark and Ark of the Covenant, yeah, which was guarded by the Levites.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: And uh the Ark of the Covenant was would have weighed, just based on the amount of gold and everything else on it, would have weighed a couple tons, and yet just a few people could carry it with rods.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and so the Levites is probably the origin of the word Levitation, where we get levitation from today.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_00: So and and this was also said to be associated with King Solomon's flying ship, which uh is mentioned in the Keberkanask, which is an Ethiopian uh text, yeah.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_00: Uh where it talks about King Solomon used to use this mana for his flying ship, and he would fly from Ethiopia to Jerusalem and back and forth to visit his wife, the Queen of Sheba.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_00: So uh and Sheba itself probably comes from Saba, which means Stargate in ancient Egypt.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_00: So it's all kind of connected there, and um and the and the Sabaeans, uh, which is another branch out of Ethiopia, uh again, they get the their name probably from Saba or or Sheba, and uh they've carried on part of this tradition as well.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_00: So it's and it all goes back to the science of tote.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, all of it.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's all related.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's all related, yeah.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's all related, and all of this predates um Michael Doriel.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_01: And the reason why I keep saying Michael Doriel is because there seems to be uh, at least on some online sources, that uh some statements made that uh somebody just sat down in the 1920s and decided to make a sci-fi movie and write the Emerald Tablets, but it's a lot deeper than that.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_01: A lot deeper, yeah.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_00: There's there's a I've even heard it suggested that Doriel was the esoteric name of George Hunt Williamson, who was you know this archaeologist who was uh came across this stuff.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, Dor Doriel from a I mean it certainly sounds like an esoteric name, right?
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_00: It does, it does.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, one of the things that I've seen with the information in the Emerald Tablets is a lot of the information references science, some of which we didn't discover or rediscover until modern times.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_01: Right into the 1970s, 80s, 90s, you know, maybe some of it, maybe the 40s, but a lot of the science there that's being described, it didn't exist.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_01: So how do you make up a story based on science that doesn't even exist?
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's exactly right.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um even the uh you know, the some of the references to uh uh the uh toth uh you know coming across some of the people of Egypt, you know, and and and passing on his knowledge and and how they were uh you know at first you know confused by these these ships coming in and and uh and and and involuntarily falling on their bellies, you know.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we find this in uh Egyptian papyri uh from the time of Tutumnosis III as well, uh particularly the Thule manuscript.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_00: So you know we find references to these things in the ancient world that that correspond to what we're finding in the Emerald Tablets.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_00: And uh which which gives credence to the idea that they were they weren't just made up later on.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_00: I mean uh they they they had a historical connection of some kind, and those sciences uh are the sciences could be argued those are the sciences of Atlantis, and that Toth was a I don't know, like a a prominent figure, a leader or something something from that.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_01: One of the greatest students, possibly.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure, 100%.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_01: And his mission was always to bring more knowledge and wisdom and civilization everywhere he went.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's right.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: You know, in Egypt, he's he's represented sometimes as the ebus bird and sometimes as a baboon.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um and by the way, this is where uh in in the Disney movie The Lion King, the the character of Rafiki, who was the baboon, yeah, that was toth.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, uh and uh and from a from a a secret kind of Masonic connection, uh you know, Rafiki is always depicted with this cane with these two balls on it, uh, which is where you get the word two ball cane, yeah, right, who was the the in the Bible was the inventor of metallurgy or alchemy.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but he was said to be uh uh again mastering the science of Hermes or Toth.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_00: So it was it was the same, yeah, you know, those that symbolism gets passed down in interesting ways.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_01: It seems as if Thoth was one of the originators of maybe several, but one of the originators of these ancient mystery teachings.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_01: Long before it was called Egyptian mysteries.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_01: It's these mystery teachings, and that these mystery teachings seem to have only brought in adept initiates to obtain this knowledge and wisdom.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_01: But over time, what I found is that when these great leaders and these great ascended masters kind of vanished, disappeared, maybe they died, passed on, or wherever they went, that others who had res were the recipients of you know, generations later, the recipients of these teachings kind of broke off and started creating these secret societies.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's correct.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_00: Uh you know, one of the ideas associated with the myths of Osiris in the Egyptian tradition is that Osiris Osiris, of course, in the myth, he's he's tricked by his brother Set, he's chopped up into pieces, and Isis ends up reassembling him.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: Uh that's this very short version of it.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: But but uh you know, one idea is that Osiris himself actually represented Atlantis and that when it when it uh collapsed, uh right before it collapsed, there were uh pockets that were sent out to different parts of the world to try to preserve what was there.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: And that uh the re really the reassembling of Osiris is tracking down those pockets to of wisdom to bring bring back together again.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: Now uh Osiris got his authority from Isis, whose name really means throne or seat.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: So she was like the uh she represented the power, right?
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_00: The powerhouse.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_00: Uh he represented the tradition that was being preserved, the Atlantean tradition, but it was all to preserve the wisdom of Toth, right?
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: Who was the the soul, if you will, of of that Atlantean tradition.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: And so um really what we're talking about when we're when we're looking at all these different cultures that are preserving the memory of and the wisdom of Toth, those are the the different pieces of the body of Osiris, right?
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_00: So as we bring that back together again and see how they all relate to each other, that's how we're rebuilding Atlantis.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: We're building the new Atlantis.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it's to preserve and to utilize this wisdom of Toth, who who the in the sciences and the philosophies of Toth.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_00: And one other example of this, I think that's worth pointing out, is when Toth is represented as an ebus bird, uh the ebus bird is known for doing two things.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: First of all, it's a black, white, and red bird, which were the colors of Egypt, those were the colors of Atlantis, and those are the colors of alchemy, right?
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_00: That's the reason why the Templars adopted those colors.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: So uh but the Ebis bird is known for eating snakes, right?
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and a snake was always a symbol of of energy or power.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um so he was ingesting it into himself, the power, that energy.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but it's also known for it'll it'll it'll stand on one leg and it holds the other leg up, and oftentimes it'll hold a a pebble or a stone in that leg.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: And what it'll do is if it if it starts to fall asleep, it drops the pebble, which wakes it back up again, right?
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: And so and so doing it's able to remain in a state of uh not unconsciousness, but not conscious, right?
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: That borderline state where uh mystical uh and uh yeah, mystical impressions, you know, can come through, you know, that that that that deeper aspects of our consciousness.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: And this is part of what Toth is talking about, you know, in terms of you know, that's that's where we're all connected to that universal consciousness, is that that that borderline state and uh and you know this is part of that symbolism, that's why he's depicted as a as an ebus bird, you know.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh it's not like you actually was an ebus bird.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um and and and the last part of that is Osiris, according to the the tradition, is raised by Isis and Sekhmet.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, Sekmet's the lioness, right?
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: She's she's got a lion head.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_00: But she but she's just like uh the Sphinx is is part person, part lion, right?
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: But the idea is it's pointing back to this time period of the age of Leo, the lion, which is in fact uh when the younger dryest cataclysm occurred.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: And which Toth came out of to rebuild civilization.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: So all of these symbol, all the symbolism and these myths are are pointing to to actual historical ideas about a you know, this root civilization that was destroyed, and then the the teachings of Toth were preserved and need to be refound and re put back together again so we can rebuild that that Atlantis, create a new Atlantis.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what we're doing.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's exactly what we're doing.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, through consciousness, it seems as if the teaching of Toth have uh it's almost like what they say in Christianity, the second coming.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, which is the second coming of the Christ consciousness.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, and uh a hundred percent, and that Christ consciousness is that universal consciousness.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: And and and to emphasize that point, uh it should be pointed out that near uh the Valley of the Kings in in Egypt is the area of Najemundi, where the Najemundi scrolls were found, you know, these these apocryphal texts associated with early Christianity, you know, where we find the earliest, some of the earliest versions of the Christian text, but we also find them with Hermetic texts.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: You know, Hermetic texts, you know, associated with Hermes, who was toth, were buried, these scrolls were buried with the New Testament scrolls, which just shows that those early Christians or or you know, these early uh some believe they were Essenes or others, uh they were valuing the Hermetic text, the the writings of Toth just as much as the writings of Jesus.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: And in fact, there's went a lot of crossover between the two, you know, where they're there, you know, uh if you look at the Corpus Hermeticum, which is another Hermetic text, you know, it it says uh you know, Toth Hermes says uh, you know, I am mind, I am the uh I am the word, I am the and all these ideas that you also find Jesus saying.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_00: So there was a there was a lot more of a crossover there than most biblical.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: Scholars give credit to because they're not even familiar with these Hermetic writings.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: You know, they they may study the Daj Hamundi Library and some of the texts there, but they just kind of ignore the fact that there's also Hermetic writings included in them, and uh because it's not convenient for their narrative that they're trying to condition people into.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they they just uh forget about them or they ignore them.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_01: That's a exact great term to use.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and uh what I saw when I studied the Emerald Tabits was a lot of parallels, like you said, between the New Testament uh teachings of Jesus and the ancient teachings of the Atlantean.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_01: So it begs to ask the question which came first, the chicken or the egg.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's exactly right.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_01: That's exactly right.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_01: And uh it's like, wow, you can see these teachings permeated all the way into that era.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, and we even find uh, you know, I just mentioned how Toth was able to restore uh Horace's uh blind eye with his spittle.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_00: We find in the Christian text Jesus doing the exact same thing, you know.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: So it's it it it it clearly comes from these earlier sources.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah uh and and we could do a whole show just on uh on the the parallels between Jesus and the Egyptian myths, you know, everything Jesus did you find the Egyptian myths, same with Moses, which is the whole reason why you know Moses was competing with the Egyptian priests supposedly doing the same miracles.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: So it's uh but but it it all goes back to those wisdom teachings of Toth, you know, and the Egyptians acknowledge that, the ancient Egyptians acknowledge that, and uh uh i i I I I believe that if Christianity uh starts to look into that more, it it'll it'll add much more flavor to Christianity itself because uh much more meaning to to uh yeah.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_01: Well the teachings are powerful, yeah.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_01: If you follow these teachings, you will become a nice, better person, yeah, a loving person.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_01: You learn how to love yourself, you learn how to love others.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you learn how to uplift and be of service to others, right?
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: And you learn how to build an organized community and try to make the world a better place, absolutely, and it's a recognition that we are all one mind.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, right, all is mind.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, even the emerald tablet itself says uh all things came into being through the meditation of the one.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: You know, therefore we are all part of that one mind.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, and uh the more we come to realize that's where the gnosis is, right?
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_00: That's where the divine knowledge comes about.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_00: And uh that that Hermes or Toth also talks about in a number of different texts, including the Corpus or Medicum.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_00: So um, and this is really what what Jesus was trying to say when he said, Love thy neighbor as thyself.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: Well it's because your neighbor is yourself.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_00: We were all one mind, you know.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_01: And the minds have a saying, Inla Kek ala kin.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I am another you.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_01: So that's right.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_01: I am you.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_01: I am you, right?
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_01: Again, a cult the cultures say the same thing all over the world.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_01: Now, you know, there are some accounts of potentially the Emerald Tabits or a version of them could be hidden in this hall of records, maybe under the Sphinx, yeah.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I yeah, there there I mean there there is a all we can say there is that there there have been you know, I was I was I was uh upset recently.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_00: Mr.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_00: Beast just did a thing uh on uh did a show with uh Zahi Was where they went into the butt of the Sphinx, you know, and and there's nothing there, and they're like, see, look, you go in the in the Sphinx and there's nothing here, yeah, which was a pure propaganda piece because we know there's other entrances into the Sphinx.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_00: There's one in the head, one in the back, one in the side, and one supposedly under the right paw.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_01: Videos of me opening and looking in that opening there by the right paw.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's right.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_00: And so and and there's been uh uh uh I don't know what the there's been there's been studies where they've they've been able to determine uh through you know different technology that there is something under the right paw.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_00: Grandpa.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_00: Right, yeah, exactly radar.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_00: There's there's a there's some sort of cavity under the right paw.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_00: And we we also know if you go if you if you if you uh walk with around the uh Great Pyramid itself, uh there are areas where you can actually see passageways going from the Sphinx to the Great Pyramid.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_00: You could see the roof structure of those passageways and uh l leading to the Sphinx.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_00: According to tradition, there is a hall of records of some kind down there.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_00: And that uh and it where this information, this Atlantean information is preserved.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, even within mystery traditions like Freemasonry, uh you know, the the the master mason's grip is also known as the lion's paw.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: And it's uh and it's emphasizing this because the idea, the lion's, the who's the lion?
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's the sphinx.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_00: You know, so the lion's paw would be his right paw, which is of course right under that, is where we find this hall of records, you know, pointing to this tradition.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_00: So you know, I believe there's a hall of records down there.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_00: There's there were early Templar excavations down there that that found something uh alluding to this idea.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but now the Egyptian government has it completely closed off, and and Zahir was doing this propaganda piece, even though he's not the head of antiquities anymore.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but he's become a propaganda piece.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and uh, you know, it's it's kind of sad.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: Controlling the flow of information, controlling just the discoveries, taking claim of discoveries that are uh have been well known and documented for a while, not giving the true credit, and of course obfuscating the truth behind the discoveries and showing, like for example, this thing he did with Mr.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_01: Beast.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um just kind of uh really it's just dogma.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: It is.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, there there are traditions like the Sabaeans of uh of uh Haran who who were who still go to the which was Turkey, area of Turkey, not far from Gobleckitepe.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_00: Uh you know, Gobleckitepe was was originally associated with uh the o uh an Osarian uh hall of records is what it was referred to.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um and uh we know there were there were Templar excavations there clear back in the 1200s.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_00: There's Templar graffiti all around there.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_00: And uh they were trying to track this stuff down, the wisdom of Toth.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_00: I mean uh and so Goblucky Tepe is another place which was like one of these preservation centers uh that was associated with the wisdom of Toth.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_00: So again, all seem to be pointing back to this the wisdom of this ancient civilization that Toth was trying to preserve the the the the teachings of.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_00: And uh and everybody now has all these different parts around the world have parts of it that we just have to put it back together again.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_01: It's a giant puzzle.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_01: Giant puzzle.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, speaking of Gobekli Tepe, we just came back from Gobekli Tepe in September.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_01: Hold on a second.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_01: So speaking of Gobekli Tepe, we just came back from there in September.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and you know, when you're there, they try to tell you that the Neolithic people were responsible for building this ancient site, which to me was just my mind couldn't, I couldn't grasp that.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_01: People who couldn't build a front door and a window and had to climb over the wall to go home at night couldn't could possibly build this uh this amazing structure which stores all this immense knowledge.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but that's the story they're going with.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_01: But but our research tells us different.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just happy that they were able to push the date of at least mankind's civilization back from five or six thousand years to at least twelve, thirteen thousand.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_01: But also which points to what you talked about earlier, this younger dryest period of this era where we had this catastrophe in that region, which decimated a lot of things and created this potential regional flood or partly global flood, maybe even a potential full global flood.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and the evidence there is that, you know, of course, that place was covered by mud.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_01: Now, some researchers and archaeologists, mainstream, say that the mud or the soil that covered Gobekli Tepe isn't even from Gobekli Tepe.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_01: Which is really bizarre.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_01: Really bizarre.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_01: It kind of falls apart a little bit.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_01: They're saying that it was purposefully buried, and that would take a lot of resources of a very small civilization to bury Gobekli Tepe, which is a massive area.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_01: They've only uncovered a small percentage.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like one-fortieth, I think.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's crazy.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_01: And so we're thinking like uh when you look around the world at a lot of these ancient sites, you begin to see that they seem to have been decommissioned in some strange way.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like the apex of the pyramids taken away, the resonating rods in the grand gallery taken away.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh temples, the architecture broken in a way that they can't function and harness the energy properly.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_01: Why do you think, or do you have any idea or hypothesis on why this seems to be a global phenomenon where these decommissioned sites seem to be laying around?
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_00: Uh all you know, I I believe personally that uh all these sites were originally part of this vast network, right, that uh that were associated with this Atlantean tradition.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_00: And that uh they were on a world grid uh where they probably uh were able to somehow provide basically broadcasted energy that was transmitted to all the different sites and uh you know it used the earth itself as a as a as a generator for that, you know, the the between the earth, the sun, and the moon, yeah.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_00: You know, they were able to to to create this energy.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um now in modern days uh you know we see what happens once when you try to provide free energy.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_00: We saw that happen with Tesla and JP Morgan.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_00: You know, JP Morgan said, Well, where do you put the meter?
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, how are you gonna make money off of it?
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_00: And so if you provide free energy, yeah.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_00: So that would be a modern reason why these things would be decommissioned.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_00: But I think in the ancient world, uh you know, we uh you could tell they in some instances they were trying to preserve they they had to have built these things prior to the cataclysm.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_00: They were trying to preserve it from the cataclysm.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_00: Uh later in ancient Egypt, we know they they I believe they found a number of these sites and they tried to preserve it as best they could.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we see that with the Sphinx, for example.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, uh the the first restoration project, you know, when supposedly the Sphinx was discovered, uh that's really when they did the fur or was built.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_00: That's really when they were did the first restoration projects on it.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um and we find uh even some of the temples like like Luxor, uh you know, where we find all these mud bricks that are around it, yeah.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_00: Uh that that may have come from early preservation efforts.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_00: Uh some people believe that uh many of the obelisk and other things that we find in Egypt had already been there and and the Egyptians just kind of put their names on it.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yeah, because they they didn't have the technology to do some of this stuff.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: So um so we have to ask ourselves who did, and and again it it points to this root civilization that were able to do things that we have trouble even doing now.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_00: I mean you you do the you look at you go to uh the Serapium, those uh those uh boxes that are down there, yeah.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um are the granite is so hard uh how they were even able to carve them out, yeah.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um we we would have a tough time even being able to do that today.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_00: So uh certainly the Egyptians with their copper tools couldn't couldn't have done it.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think copper tools and chicken bones did the job that they told us at school.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_01: Copper chisels and chicken bones that can do uh something as hard as diorite and granite, very high on the Moses scale of hardness.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_01: And uh speaking of the Serapium, I I take people on tour to Egypt every year.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_01: We just took a big tour there with, as you know, Muhammad Ibrahim and his beautiful wife Noha.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_01: Saba tours, yeah.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_01: Stargate tours.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_01: And uh we go to the Serapium Underground, which I believe, my personal opinion, uh I didn't read this anywhere, but my personal opinion based on research seems that it's probably a halls of a menti of one of one of the halls of a menti.
• 37:20
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