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04/30/26 - Hour 2 · The Huddle

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's a segment that we like to call semi ray. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 2: back here among the tire and strip.
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Speaker 3: Club ad it's my favorite one, and deep into the
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Speaker 3: sports section, not at the Blatz condominiums.
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Speaker 1: That's right.
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Speaker 4: Well, I was filling up those lines there on the
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Speaker 4: on the shot sheet. I got some things out there.
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Speaker 2: You know, we'll start with the Badger's wrapping up spring football.
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Speaker 2: Billy As as the host of the Badgers post game show,
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Speaker 2: I know you you wanted to make it to a
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Speaker 2: practice and scheduling did not work out.
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Speaker 3: You had scheduling conflicts, as they like to say, yeah,
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Speaker 3: and it just totally messed that up. That was my fault.
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Speaker 2: But what what are the prevailing storylines that you've seen
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Speaker 2: from and heard from our pale Nick Brucewitz, Well, it
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Speaker 2: covers the Badgers quite well.
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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Nick Brucewitz, Colton Bartholomew, all those
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Speaker 3: guys have had it. Mark Stewart from the Milwaukee Journal
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Speaker 3: Sentinel have had it throughout.
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Speaker 1: I think the number one.
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Speaker 3: Thing that I'm gonna be the most excited about, and
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Speaker 3: from what everybody has kind of been one of their
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Speaker 3: main takeaways. The offensive line feels a little bit more
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Speaker 3: sturdy than it did at this point last year now,
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Speaker 3: they went through some real problems in terms of injuries,
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Speaker 3: Like Kevin Haywood was going to be one of their
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Speaker 3: main guys going into the year, and he blows out
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Speaker 3: his knee in spring football. So that was your left
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Speaker 3: tackle question right out of the gates. Bringing a guy
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Speaker 3: in the transfer portal in state, dude transfers up and
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Speaker 3: night one, you kind of realize that he might not
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Speaker 3: be ready for prime time. So they were always playing
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Speaker 3: from behind in that spot. So to be this far
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Speaker 3: along it appears with Haywood coming back.
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Speaker 1: PJ.
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Speaker 3: Wilkins, one of their newcomers, seems really really good. Eric
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Speaker 3: Matos their new O line coach, apparently having some early
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Speaker 3: success right out of the gates.
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Speaker 1: Because as much as.
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Speaker 3: Guys, I'm not gonna say they're gonna go as far
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Speaker 3: as Colton Joseph in a quarterback play is going to
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Speaker 3: take him, but at some point you gotta be able
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Speaker 3: to have a real season with a starting quarterback playing
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Speaker 3: more than give it eight games, and the biggest way
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Speaker 3: to do that is be able to protect the guy
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Speaker 3: and have some sturdy foundation in front. So as much
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Speaker 3: as they've struggled with health at that position, I think
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Speaker 3: what they've put out in front of them has been
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Speaker 3: maybe more egregious and frustrating, especially for Wisconsin football fans
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Speaker 3: that have become accustomed to a certain standard of living
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Speaker 3: and dominating upfront. So I think that's gonna look a
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Speaker 3: little bit more like Wisconsin football. And I mean Colton
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Speaker 3: Joseph from everything that I'm hearing is sounds like the guy.
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Speaker 3: So I'm I'm excited. They lost a decent amount up front.
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Speaker 3: On the defensive line, they did a ton of work
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Speaker 3: on that in last year's portal. We'll see how a
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Speaker 3: bunch of newcomers are able to play there. But the
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Speaker 3: most important thing for me is always going to be
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Speaker 3: start with that five up front, Trew. And if that
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Speaker 3: feels more in order, I'll be a lot I'll feel
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Speaker 3: a lot better rolling into the start of August.
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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, back here among the tired strip club ads, have
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Speaker 2: we heard anything about a search for a new university president?
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Speaker 1: Slash ad? See? Now that's a great Marcus said Bury
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Speaker 1: slide question.
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Speaker 3: I have heard, well, and I don't know what you
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Speaker 3: hire first, that's right thing.
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Speaker 1: I think that that's the tough part.
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Speaker 3: I don't know that you can necessarily think that you're
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Speaker 3: gonna be uh in a race to be getting out
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Speaker 3: of the interim or take the interim tag off of Marcus,
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Speaker 3: said Berry. Just let him be in that position and
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Speaker 3: roll it for right now. He has such institutional knowledge
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Speaker 3: of the building and the area, just like, let him
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Speaker 3: do it and hold because you have so many other
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Speaker 3: spots in the in the you know, system that they
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Speaker 3: have to fill. I would assume before they're gonna let
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Speaker 3: somebody entrust somebody to pay and then pay somebody to
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Speaker 3: take over that.
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Speaker 4: So well, and when you're on that, you know, I
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Speaker 4: thought about that yesterday when I saw Butchi's then on
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Speaker 4: Butch's then coach car was on there, and I started
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Speaker 4: thinking about that. It's like, it's got to be a
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Speaker 4: weird situation to go about your business work when you
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Speaker 4: seemingly you don't have a boss or you don't know
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Speaker 4: who your boss's boss is and you don't know the
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Speaker 4: situation is.
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Speaker 1: It's got to be a weird situation to work in
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Speaker 1: that environment where you I can't speak to experiencing that
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Speaker 1: weird anyway.
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Speaker 4: But uh, but that's what they're doing right now because
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Speaker 4: you're right Chancellor, you assistant president, ad all those things
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Speaker 4: have to be. But it's business as usual for some
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Speaker 4: of those, which is there, and you know, thinking about
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Speaker 4: a guy like guard and Marcus Edbury's in that role
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Speaker 4: right now, so Fickle's got to worry about, Hey, I've
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Speaker 4: got to do what I can to win now, right
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Speaker 4: because that's my number one priority other than we haven't.
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Speaker 1: Heard anything about an AD or what that situation is
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Speaker 1: gonna be.
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Speaker 3: But I mean, and and maybe this isn't, this isn't
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Speaker 3: what people want to hear, but I would I would
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Speaker 3: guess Drew that his seat becomes a little bit more
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Speaker 3: lukewarm than than scolding hot going into the year with
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Speaker 3: all the changes around, because again, like there, I don't
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Speaker 3: believe you're gonna have an interim AD go and hire
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Speaker 3: a new football coach while there's not a chancellor or
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Speaker 3: a university system president, not.
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Speaker 1: With that kind of outlay of cash.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, there's there's so much in there, And I
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Speaker 3: would I don't know where you would fall in on it.
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Speaker 3: I would guess maybe the UW chancellor would get put
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Speaker 3: in first and then they would go to the system
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Speaker 3: president in the AD. But I don't know where that
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Speaker 3: chain of command ends up going that could they be
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Speaker 3: working simultaneously. I don't know this stuff so beyond our
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Speaker 3: pay grade. I was gonna say, or you know what,
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Speaker 3: and and this might be what it ultimately comes down to,
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Speaker 3: because I think we see this a lot in business.
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Speaker 3: Who we've seen a lot in sports. Right, the new
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Speaker 3: football coach comes in, what does he bring his quarterback? Yeah,
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Speaker 3: maybe a new chancellor brings their ad, right. I wonder
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Speaker 3: if that's part of it where it could be becomes
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Speaker 3: almost more of a package deal that could be.
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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, back here among the tires, strip club ads, playoffs continue.
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Speaker 2: NHL NBA Lakers missed a chance to extinguish the Rockets
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Speaker 2: last night.
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Speaker 1: The Pistons get a dub that was a caid saved
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Speaker 1: them with that big game with their backs against forty.
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Speaker 2: Five, And that's a good physical that's a throwback series
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Speaker 2: in some way.
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Speaker 4: Well, the thing is, you know, you win sixty games
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Speaker 4: and then if you lose in the first round on
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Speaker 4: eight C, they're gonna call you a fraud. And for
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Speaker 4: at least one day, the Pistons have fought against.
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Speaker 1: That, that destiny.
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Speaker 3: So we'll see if they and I mean they also
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Speaker 3: do that though up seventeen in the second quarter like
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Speaker 3: they were on the verge of blowing out Orlando. Orlando's
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Speaker 3: playing without Wagner yesterday, who's probably their second or third
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Speaker 3: best player.
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Speaker 1: He's been a big player in this series.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean Caid is going to steal the
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Speaker 3: headline with the forty five, but match it on the
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Speaker 3: other side by my boy Powlo Bancaro.
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Speaker 1: He was nails.
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Speaker 2: Yes, Studley, young guys that people don't pay a lot
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Speaker 2: of attention.
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Speaker 4: Does that make you feel like, you know going into
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Speaker 4: Game six?
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Speaker 1: Is that set things up Orlando? You know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: I hope so.
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Speaker 2: Also in a key game, when you're two to two
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Speaker 2: and a best of seven, game five is everything, and
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Speaker 2: the Cavs won that. When Donovan Mitchell had some big
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Speaker 2: shots they got off off the deck in the third quarter.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and on the on the complete opposite side, they
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Speaker 3: were down big early and the Raptors came and punched
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Speaker 3: him in the mouth and they were able to hold on.
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Speaker 1: Barnes also got dinged up.
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Speaker 3: I can't remember if it was in the second or
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Speaker 3: third quarter, and he was clearly not himself. I want
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Speaker 3: to say Scotty Barnes went oh of five or oh
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Speaker 3: of six down the stretch and.
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Speaker 1: Was getting choked up just thinking about it. But like
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Speaker 1: you could.
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Speaker 3: Tell he was not the same guy going in. But
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Speaker 3: you want Drew you said it with the Detroit Orlando series,
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Speaker 3: that Cleveland and Toronto series both have been super physical,
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Speaker 3: super scrappy and much like because Armin said, you guys
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Speaker 3: are gonna have to prove to me you can play
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Speaker 3: NBA basketball here, it proved to me that you have
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Speaker 3: to make some shots.
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Speaker 1: They made some shots yesterday.
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Speaker 3: Did that offensive game was a hell of a lot
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Speaker 3: different than that Sunday Matt.
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Speaker 1: And they we watched a couple of days ago.
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Speaker 4: It is just crazy that in the NBA playoffs, the
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Speaker 4: same teams, the same game, same series, can look totally
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Speaker 4: different from game to game. No one can make a
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Speaker 4: shot obviously last game and then yeah, they roll up
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Speaker 4: for two forty five combined last night.
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Speaker 1: So it is pretty wild. But it just goes to
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Speaker 1: remind you how different the playoffs are than the regular
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Speaker 1: season when he sees some of these series.
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Speaker 4: The Calves won, but I still think they have a
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Speaker 4: lot of problems. They're having a lot of trouble with
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Speaker 4: the Rafters. They had to eke outa win again. They
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Speaker 4: You know, the Calves have a lot of unfulfilled promise,
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Speaker 4: especially not if they have hard in my opinion, so
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Speaker 4: I think they still have a lot to prove to.
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Speaker 1: That fan base.
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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, back here among the tired strip club ads the
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Speaker 2: NHL playoffs, we had the Battle for Pennsylvania go to
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Speaker 2: overtime and uh my gosh, Flyers win that one in overtime.
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Speaker 2: And then the game of the night in all of
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Speaker 2: sports is Vegas against Utah, a double overtime shorthander to
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Speaker 2: lead the Golden Knights to a five to four victory.
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Speaker 3: Which I'm glad that I didn't stay up to watch
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Speaker 3: my Knights take that thing all the way down. I
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Speaker 3: watched the first new part of the first period. Dude,
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Speaker 3: I was struggling, and I'm like, there's no way on
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Speaker 3: God's green Earth, I'm staying up any longer than this,
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Speaker 3: especially after my Lakers decided that they were just gonna
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Speaker 3: send it down their leg in the second quarter and
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Speaker 3: almost get doubled up what thirty to sixteen in the
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Speaker 3: second quarter.
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Speaker 1: That one put me to.
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Speaker 3: Bed quickly, But the Flyers finish in overtime. My man,
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Speaker 3: York hasn't had a goal. They said, since like January
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Speaker 3: puts it in good biscuit, in the best and I
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Speaker 3: thought maybe my favorite part was maybe the best question
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Speaker 3: off of it chucks the stick into the stands on
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Speaker 3: the celebration. Don't know where do you stay in Thursday?
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Speaker 1: Risk? How does that play? Because that is quite risky.
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Speaker 3: However, maybe the sweetest souvenir anybody has ever gotten.
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Speaker 1: Game.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's rought with concerns, obviously from a safety standpoint,
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Speaker 4: but more so and we're going back to the guy
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Speaker 4: stealing the ball. You throw a stick into the stands,
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Speaker 4: legitimately fifteen people can get their hands on it.
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Speaker 1: So who gets the stick? Is it the blade? Is
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Speaker 1: it the tape? Is it? Whoever it rips it away?
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Speaker 1: You rather have the handle?
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Speaker 4: You're starting to I'm saying, who's got the right to
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Speaker 4: the shaft? I mean, what's the most important part to grab?
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Speaker 4: And then if you're swinging it around and hit somebody
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Speaker 4: when you're trying to grab it from somebody else.
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Speaker 1: But I mean you're throwing sticks and start to get.
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Speaker 4: And I'm also like, you know, I'm excited about my
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Speaker 4: team winning too if I'm in the stand. But then
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Speaker 4: all of a sudden, a big shrapnel comes flying. That's
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Speaker 4: not funny. It's a big shaft.
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Speaker 2: So wouldn't you do the Anthony Rizzo thing when they
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Speaker 2: got the last out of the wislers put the ball
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Speaker 2: in your pocket and keep it.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because I wonder that.
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Speaker 4: You know, tennis players they smack them into the stands
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Speaker 4: like it's just a ball, so no big deal.
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Speaker 1: But I think about that too. I'm like, oh, don't
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Speaker 1: get rid of that ball, you know that was that was?
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Speaker 3: And I wonder who who went skated over her into
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Speaker 3: the net and grabbed the puck because remember the one
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Speaker 3: have we learned anything anything from Jack Hughes Bergo grabbed
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Speaker 3: that Otherwise it's not your pocket and it never was
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Speaker 3: your plock, so it's our pocket.
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Speaker 1: We're taking it. But big win for the unit's last
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Speaker 1: night for you know, I'm always even near story story time.
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Speaker 2: Was at a game and she was We had seats right,
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Speaker 2: We had extra seats from my buddy Guido who had
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Speaker 2: the seats right, you know, one of his friends or something.
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Speaker 2: So she was down there right by the visitors dugout.
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Speaker 2: She's probably ten at the time. And that's and birds
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Speaker 2: playing the twins as I recall, and I think it
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Speaker 2: was Kyle Low. She ended up pitching here had he
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Speaker 2: had he struck out somebody to end an inning, and
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Speaker 2: the catcher, fellow by the name of Drew but Terra,
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Speaker 2: was kind of jogging off and he flipped the ball
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Speaker 2: to my kid, and then they realized, oh, that was
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Speaker 2: a significant eight hundredth strikeout. It was a round number
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Speaker 2: strikeout for Loch. So they wanted They said, hey, can
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Speaker 2: we get that ball back back?
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Speaker 1: And they handed her a bat.
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Speaker 2: Drew Byteer handed her a bat which is still at
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Speaker 2: State Leeolsen manor somewhere, So she's got a She traded
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Speaker 2: the ball much better, Yes, So I have a picture
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Speaker 2: of her sitting there holding the ball and then holding
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Speaker 2: a bat that she got.
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Speaker 3: She made a trade. They made a trade. That's a
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Speaker 3: dominating of the lunch table trade. You won an MLB bat,
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Speaker 3: Like anybody can get a ball, but how many people
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Speaker 3: get a bat the major league player at a game. Well,
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Speaker 3: and that was that was why, like a couple of
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Speaker 3: years ago, my man was scaling the net trying to
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Speaker 3: get the bat down, and then there was a question
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Speaker 3: of hey, you just risked everyone's livelihood to go get
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Speaker 3: that bat.
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Speaker 1: He needs to get the bat. Are you kidding me?
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Speaker 3: That's the sweetest souvenir that you can get. I didn't
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Speaker 3: anticipate there were gonna be hockey games that you were
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Speaker 3: gonna be able to get sticks at, right, other than
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Speaker 3: when they give it away, right, and that on the
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Speaker 3: way out, because very much could be some dangerous.
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Speaker 1: Game of the year.
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Speaker 2: They throw all their stuff that they're wearing and then
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Speaker 2: all the stuff from their locker goes into the bind
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Speaker 2: to go to the Dominican Academy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how it works. So all right.
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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, back here among the tire strip cle bats, we
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Speaker 2: are today as we say, you know, we're on to May.
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Speaker 1: Today's the last, our last show of April. It's gonna be,
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be.
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Speaker 2: It's been one week since it was reported that Taylor
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Speaker 2: Jenkins and the Bucks had agreed in principle for him
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Speaker 2: to be the next coach.
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Speaker 1: How about that.
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Speaker 2: Now we're standing in the living room like Will Smith,
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Speaker 2: going where is everything?
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Speaker 4: At some point teams are gonna start say, we don't
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Speaker 4: have to do press conferences anymore.
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Speaker 1: No one else is doing it. Why are we gonna
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Speaker 1: do press calls?
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Speaker 2: Well, we've had nothing from the team and nothing from
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Speaker 2: Eric Name and Jim OZARSI like, all right, what I said, Well,
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Speaker 2: maybe somebody had plans for the weekend. Maybe Taylor Jenkins
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Speaker 2: had a cruise booked or something with the going on
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Speaker 2: to Disney cruise with the kids, Like maybe there's some
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Speaker 2: extenuating thing. But this is kind of a big deal
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Speaker 2: in life and in the profession, and for there to
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Speaker 2: be a week of radio silence after the flurry of news,
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Speaker 2: and it's just like, well, is he gonna coach here?
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Speaker 2: If I find out, like if Orlando dips, you know,
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Speaker 2: is he then the coach there? Like could the rugby pulled?
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Speaker 2: Like what's going on?
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Speaker 3: That's the thing until that, until that card is up
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Speaker 3: in the commissioner's and he's reading the name of the draft,
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Speaker 3: you haven't made the selection. Until you've put out the
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Speaker 3: press release, you haven't made the higher. So like, I
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Speaker 3: don't necessarily know why the silence or why the weight,
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Speaker 3: but Drew, like I get it. If it's three days
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Speaker 3: and hey man, my oldest daughter is graduating college, we
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Speaker 3: got to be there. Can we hold off until Wednesday?
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Speaker 1: Sure? Sweet, we'll do that.
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Speaker 3: Now we're rolling in on a week I don't know
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Speaker 3: what five day excursion to the Bahamas is worth more
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Speaker 3: than Hey, a four year deal. It's probably gonna be
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Speaker 3: worth thirty to forty million dollars.
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Speaker 1: Ago coach an NBA team.
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Speaker 4: I agree with you, guys, well people do have vacations
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Speaker 4: more than a week before.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I do agree with you. It is well
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Speaker 1: before you go and get a job though. Harmon. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I know that that part is peculiar.
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Speaker 4: And you can still put a press release out and
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Speaker 4: say we're gonna have a press conference soon. But the
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Speaker 4: one it would be disappointing because I'm excited about the hire.
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Speaker 4: But the one silver lining would be shams to be wrong. Now,
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Speaker 4: that would be fun. It would be fun to be
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Speaker 4: able to dunk on shams and like, you got got
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Speaker 4: one wrong there, Huh didn't you? But uh, that would
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Speaker 4: be It would be disappointing because I like, I like
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Speaker 4: to hire.
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Speaker 1: I like where you're going to. Well, I don't know,
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Speaker 1: but it doesn't sound like you'd be wrong.
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Speaker 3: It sounds like Taylor Jenkins would have accepted the job
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Speaker 3: and then recanted his his uh signing, or you know,
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Speaker 3: just done a Baltimore Ravens and said, hey, man, after
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Speaker 3: my after my physical exam there in Milwaukee, I've decided reviews.
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Speaker 4: Well, even after a press conference, guys have gone back
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Speaker 4: on it. I mean remember Billy Donovan and then Orlando
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Speaker 4: I want to say, was that right? And then uh
15:33
Speaker 4: Rick Majeri's with the USC job that happened before and
15:36
Speaker 4: he changed as president.
15:38
Speaker 1: That's why I'm asking, like we've been a week, Well
15:41
Speaker 1: what's the story now? Not nervous now?
15:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, Taylor Jenkins, like I said, he was the
15:46
Speaker 2: number one guy on the market kind of in this cycle.
15:49
Speaker 2: And now my TV tag team partner, Diarn Melendez from
15:53
Speaker 2: w i S in twelve, he he's like, he's they
15:57
Speaker 2: could have just kept Boonholzer and like he basically is
15:59
Speaker 2: saying that Taylor Jenkins and Kenny Atkinson are bud Light
16:03
Speaker 2: because they came from the Budenholzer tree, and like sure.
16:06
Speaker 1: They're like water down imitations. Like nah, I don't think
16:09
Speaker 1: that we guys get guys can the.
16:12
Speaker 2: Coaching trees of you know, look at there's a lot
16:14
Speaker 2: of coaching trees where guys you know, become better where
16:17
Speaker 2: they yeah, exactly where the guys kind of outkicked their
16:20
Speaker 2: where the.
16:21
Speaker 3: Prodecessor I guess the other part with what the bud
16:23
Speaker 3: thing is, are we a little bit more d are
16:26
Speaker 3: we over correcting on the bud thing a little too much?
16:29
Speaker 3: Like remember how bad it was when they ended up
16:32
Speaker 3: getting dumb trucked in five games by the Miami Heat.
16:36
Speaker 1: And I mean again, you're never taking the title away.
16:39
Speaker 3: And he does get obviously immense credit, and that's where
16:42
Speaker 3: most of this still comes from Total twenty one. But
16:44
Speaker 3: show me the game changing coaching decisions in that title
16:49
Speaker 3: run that he made that that changed their tide, playing
16:53
Speaker 3: the starters forty eight minutes for three straight games against
16:56
Speaker 3: the Nets like it. There wasn't any x's and o's
16:59
Speaker 3: deal that made him head and shoulders above.
17:02
Speaker 1: He never out coached anybody.
17:03
Speaker 3: They outplayed, they out They were better than the teams
17:07
Speaker 3: that they ultimately went out against. It was against the
17:10
Speaker 3: Phoenix where it was just a will and a comeback.
17:13
Speaker 3: It wasn't anything X's and O's wise really ever, that
17:16
Speaker 3: it felt like he was out coaching anybody.
17:20
Speaker 1: So I got be four to get ready to go
17:21
Speaker 1: to the airport. And then you wake up in the
17:23
Speaker 1: middle of the night.
17:24
Speaker 2: Do you trust the alarm or do you look at
17:26
Speaker 2: a watch or your phone to see what time it is.
17:28
Speaker 1: I never truy.
17:29
Speaker 2: I don't have the alarm clock trust that we used
17:31
Speaker 2: to have where you could look over and see it.
17:33
Speaker 1: But I don't trust my alarm. I don't trust my phone.
17:35
Speaker 5: I don't trust myself when it comes to setting multiple
17:38
Speaker 5: alarms on my phone because I'm gonna screw something up.
17:40
Speaker 1: I do now, and it's like I'm split.
17:43
Speaker 2: I'm weaning myself off looking to see what time it is,
17:45
Speaker 2: because really, what's the difference. It is like, oh, man,
17:49
Speaker 2: just this morning I looked and like I looked at
17:51
Speaker 2: it and I'm like, oh, it's only like twelve thirty.
17:53
Speaker 2: I got another couple hours to sleep.
17:55
Speaker 1: I feel okay.
17:56
Speaker 2: It's a good feeling, yep, because I already slept. I
17:58
Speaker 2: was kind of waking up and I felt like I
18:00
Speaker 2: got in enough sleep, Like, oh, I got more time
18:01
Speaker 2: to sleep. But it's just it's a zero some thing
18:04
Speaker 2: because you look at the clock and it's going to
18:05
Speaker 2: be it's bad news or I have I have forty
18:08
Speaker 2: five minutes still I have to get up.
18:09
Speaker 1: Is it even worth trying to go back to sleep? Yeah?
18:11
Speaker 5: I mean it's amazing the feeling you get when you're
18:13
Speaker 5: on vacation. Yeah, oh, and you don't and you just
18:15
Speaker 5: sleep till you till you wake up, and you just
18:17
Speaker 5: feel this the stress is so much lower. You know,
18:21
Speaker 5: you're probably staying up later. You don't have to worry
18:23
Speaker 5: because it's always in the back of your mind. When
18:24
Speaker 5: you work the shift that you guys work in that hour,
18:26
Speaker 5: it's always in the back of your mind. You're on
18:28
Speaker 5: the clock four hours a.
18:29
Speaker 4: Day, twenty four hours a day unless you are like off,
18:32
Speaker 4: but you're dreaming and you still think you're working.
18:34
Speaker 1: So then you wake up freaking out for a second.
18:36
Speaker 1: I don't know you like that, belly.
18:38
Speaker 3: I don't dream about work that much. Maybe I should,
18:40
Speaker 3: Maybe I should dream more about.
18:43
Speaker 5: That's one of the advantage. There's several advantages to having
18:45
Speaker 5: a spouse, but that's one of them that they kind
18:47
Speaker 5: of keep you, you know, on a regular schedule. When
18:50
Speaker 5: when I worked a thousand years ago, I did mornings
18:52
Speaker 5: in Madison, and for that year and a half or whatever,
18:55
Speaker 5: we had to have two places because my wife had
18:57
Speaker 5: had a job this way. So I would wake up
19:00
Speaker 5: in a sheer panic at at like five point thirty
19:05
Speaker 5: in the fall in the afternoon, and it looked like
19:07
Speaker 5: the sun was just coming up instead of just going down.
19:11
Speaker 5: Thinking about what bad excuse I was going to give
19:13
Speaker 5: the all night people, that the reason I've slept through
19:15
Speaker 5: my alarm.
19:16
Speaker 1: But then when you.
19:17
Speaker 2: Don't know AM or PM, that is the you're in
19:19
Speaker 2: the twilight zone.
19:21
Speaker 1: Spring and fall. That happened twilight zone, absolutely all right.
19:24
Speaker 2: So we just did a segment called Meanwhile back here
19:26
Speaker 2: among the Tyrant strip club ads, and we talked about
19:27
Speaker 2: things that we haven't been talking about, like the fact
19:29
Speaker 2: that the Bucks are now a week since we heard
19:31
Speaker 2: Taylor Jenkins coming with still no sign of a coach. Yeah,
19:34
Speaker 2: but if I save this one for you, because I
19:38
Speaker 2: don't have I have no fomo about this, but I
19:41
Speaker 2: am observing with a rye smile from a distance the
19:43
Speaker 2: folks in Pittsburgh wondering if Aaron Rodgers is going to
19:45
Speaker 2: deem to be my quarterback or not, or whether they
19:47
Speaker 2: really want him, And that's saga, and you think about it,
19:50
Speaker 2: and we're so far removed from that in these parts
19:52
Speaker 2: because he's been gone for three seasons, and you know,
19:56
Speaker 2: we've kind of like blocked out the memory of that shadow.
20:00
Speaker 1: Fully moved on from it basically done.
20:02
Speaker 2: But we went through it with Farv, we went through
20:04
Speaker 2: it with Rogers, and it's like, is Aaron Rodgers gonna
20:07
Speaker 2: be the quarterback?
20:08
Speaker 1: What do you think?
20:08
Speaker 2: How do you think this is gonna happen? How do
20:09
Speaker 2: you think it's gonna play out?
20:11
Speaker 5: I think he's coming back only because Mike Tomlin said
20:13
Speaker 5: he's coming back. You know, Mike, there's no pressure on
20:16
Speaker 5: him to be that that stoic guy in front of
20:17
Speaker 5: the press anymore. He wants to be on Sunday Night.
20:20
Speaker 5: Think yeah, yeah, And he said he thinks he's coming back.
20:23
Speaker 5: So we'll take what are their options? Are they gonna
20:27
Speaker 5: stumble through and then draft a quarterback next year? Are
20:30
Speaker 5: they gonna?
20:31
Speaker 1: Is he? If they bring him in? That's you know.
20:35
Speaker 2: I think they could go five hundred without him or
20:37
Speaker 2: five hundred with him. So I think you're better off
20:39
Speaker 2: ripping the band aid off. Mason Rudolf still there.
20:42
Speaker 3: Rudolph still there, Drew Allen is drafted, and then Will
20:45
Speaker 3: Howard I think would ultimately be the starting quarterback this year.
20:48
Speaker 3: And like I think their long term starting quarterback is
20:50
Speaker 3: probably playing college football this year, yes, right, So, like
20:53
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily know that it's the biggest deal if
20:55
Speaker 3: he plays or not. I don't know that they're good
20:57
Speaker 3: enough to compete any more than they have before in
21:00
Speaker 3: the AFC, and I don't know where else they would go.
21:03
Speaker 3: The funny part about this one is, and like Art
21:06
Speaker 3: Rooney the second came out yesterday, he's confident that he's
21:08
Speaker 3: gonna be their starting quarterback in twenty six. But you
21:10
Speaker 3: only put this tender on if you know that, and
21:13
Speaker 3: you think that somebody is snooping around, And isn't it
21:16
Speaker 3: interesting that it happens on the same day, almost to
21:18
Speaker 3: the hour, that we find out that bo Nicks needs
21:21
Speaker 3: to have another surgery on that ankle, and that he
21:24
Speaker 3: needs to have on another surgery and might have a setback,
21:26
Speaker 3: it might be back later than people anticipated. And if
21:29
Speaker 3: there would be any coach that maybe Aaron Rodgers would
21:32
Speaker 3: go play for this year, they don't trust Jared's did
21:34
Speaker 3: him anymore. I don't think anybody would. And I think
21:37
Speaker 3: that there's a reason to think that Aaron would be
21:40
Speaker 3: interested to go somewhere else and somebody put another opportunity.
21:44
Speaker 2: Now, the other layer of this that makes it adds
21:47
Speaker 2: the palace intrigue is the Mike McCarthy factor, because you know,
21:50
Speaker 2: there are those of us who think that, you know,
21:52
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy would probably prefer not to have Aaron Rodgers
21:54
Speaker 2: and put up with all the drama and stuff in
21:56
Speaker 2: the you know, the fingerprints on the knife in his back.
21:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, from the Green Bay days. So take us back
22:02
Speaker 1: to whatever that was.
22:02
Speaker 5: What year was that, twenty sixteen eighteen?
22:07
Speaker 1: It was Aaron Rodgers.
22:09
Speaker 5: Did he have a good portion of things to do
22:13
Speaker 5: with coach Mike getting shown the door before the end
22:15
Speaker 5: of the season.
22:16
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's the fact that their team
22:17
Speaker 3: was cheeks had a lot more to do with it.
22:19
Speaker 3: But there was there was plenty around there. There was
22:22
Speaker 3: there was, Yeah, there was a lot of smoke. There
22:23
Speaker 3: were a lot of undined sources that went through. There
22:28
Speaker 3: was the uh, don't be the problem conversation that allegedly
22:32
Speaker 3: did or it didn't happen between Mike Mark Murphy and
22:35
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers.
22:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there was some of it.
22:38
Speaker 3: But like I think, so many of us just thought
22:40
Speaker 3: that they buried the hatchet cleanly during that you know,
22:44
Speaker 3: closed door, janitorial closet meeting before the Packers and Cowboys game.
22:48
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago.
22:49
Speaker 3: But listen, those scars might be a little bit deeper
22:53
Speaker 3: than a couple of hours before you play on a
22:56
Speaker 3: three twenty five window.
22:57
Speaker 4: I was assuming, Sorry, no, I always assume they weren't.
23:00
Speaker 4: Though for some reason, I always thought if you two
23:02
Speaker 4: guys in that job for so long quarterback and the
23:06
Speaker 4: Packers at head coach, they wanted super Bowl together. They
23:08
Speaker 4: did have a couple of public sideline disagreements, but not many,
23:11
Speaker 4: so I just felt like that there was some real,
23:13
Speaker 4: real issue would have been more exaster.
23:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right.
23:16
Speaker 5: Although now that Billy brings up the fact that he
23:19
Speaker 5: could go someplace else.
23:20
Speaker 2: Like Denver, well, the idea that he could play in
23:23
Speaker 2: Denver for uh Sean Payton with the potential with a
23:27
Speaker 2: Super Bowl roster, super Bowl roster, that'd be pretty enticing thing.
23:30
Speaker 2: I mean, like if the one last go and he's thinking, oh,
23:32
Speaker 2: I can walk off into the sunset like Peyton Manning.
23:35
Speaker 1: One hundred percent.
23:36
Speaker 3: And I think that he was more intrigued last year
23:38
Speaker 3: to go play for the Rams than anybody because the
23:41
Speaker 3: thought was maybe Stafford ends up going somewhere else for
23:43
Speaker 3: the table there and I still think he would have
23:47
Speaker 3: at home, lived at home. I also think he would
23:49
Speaker 3: have preferred to play for the Vikings last year then
23:50
Speaker 3: played for the Steelers then he ended up doing So
23:53
Speaker 3: keep your options open. And if you're the first guy
23:57
Speaker 3: that people call during the offseat or during the season,
24:00
Speaker 3: and if one of their guys gets hurt or their
24:01
Speaker 3: guy has a setback, that's a good spot to be
24:03
Speaker 3: in if you want the leverage and you want to
24:05
Speaker 3: keep yourself in the news, which he clearly wants to
24:07
Speaker 3: write like I mean that that's the other part of
24:09
Speaker 3: this that we've all known, the secret that everybody has
24:12
Speaker 3: kind of been talking about. But every time he's in
24:14
Speaker 3: front of the microphone, we'll try to tamp him down.
24:16
Speaker 3: He wants to be a part of the news cycle.
24:18
Speaker 3: He likes this part of how Jerry Jones would say
24:21
Speaker 3: the NFL needs a little shizzle cowboys right here for.
24:25
Speaker 1: He always says he wants to you'll never hear from
24:27
Speaker 1: me again. What did he say again?
24:28
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeahs At least Arman's gonna spend two straight
24:31
Speaker 5: days on flight aware.
24:33
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, those tail signs. He flies so many private
24:36
Speaker 4: tail signs. It's so hard to track him anyway. He's
24:38
Speaker 4: coming out of Tita Borough. He's coming out of every
24:40
Speaker 4: kind of airport with But you know what, it's still
24:43
Speaker 4: fun to try.
24:44
Speaker 1: It's still fun to check it out come and find
24:45
Speaker 1: that flight, you know, so Joal Airport.
24:48
Speaker 2: But I almost feel for the like Steelers fans in
24:51
Speaker 2: the organization because they went through this last year or too,
24:54
Speaker 2: like he was a late decision.
24:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't feel bad for him, I like, I don't.
25:00
Speaker 1: I don't.
25:00
Speaker 3: I don't feel bad for a fan base for doing
25:02
Speaker 3: this because again they're otherwise they're sitting there watching Will
25:05
Speaker 3: Howard play.
25:05
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, but most Steelers fans are cheering
25:08
Speaker 2: against Rogers's return.
25:10
Speaker 1: They don't want him back. They want to turn the page.
25:12
Speaker 2: Like they tried Russell Wilson, they tried Rogers. None of
25:15
Speaker 2: it works for five hun They want to break the cycle.
25:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, they also they also don't want to be five
25:20
Speaker 3: and twelve or four and thirteen.
25:22
Speaker 2: Then that puts you, but with the one year of
25:24
Speaker 2: pain puts you in a better chance to grab one
25:26
Speaker 2: of the quarterbacks that you.
25:27
Speaker 1: Might want in the draft again. You can grab J. J.
25:29
Speaker 1: McCarthy and you can be sitting right back there again.
25:31
Speaker 1: So like I knowbody sees.
25:33
Speaker 2: That though you think of that as like, that's the
25:35
Speaker 2: totalm that you want. That's the talisman that we're reaching for.
25:38
Speaker 2: Is that draft pick quarterback, then the high draft and
25:40
Speaker 2: the gift guy we want.
25:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, Steels Steelers have lived a nice life.
25:43
Speaker 3: They've lived a very comfortable life for a while, and
25:45
Speaker 3: you don't realize how quickly that those fortunes.
25:48
Speaker 1: Can change and you can be the Cleveland brownsbre But.
25:50
Speaker 2: The Rams taking ty Simpson right, that's like they knew
25:54
Speaker 2: they weren't going to be in that position.
25:56
Speaker 1: They hope to get the old guys, so they did.
25:58
Speaker 2: They took the flyer that was on almost a swing
26:01
Speaker 2: like they did with Aaron Rodgers or with Jordan love Well.
26:03
Speaker 5: That was their swing. Take you well before its Steelers
26:08
Speaker 5: for a little drama, man, I mean, come on.
26:11
Speaker 2: Arman, dropping it if you know, you know, well well
26:14
Speaker 2: before your Thursday well, well you get that.
26:16
Speaker 4: It's kind of like the old uh well, It's based
26:19
Speaker 4: on the same theory of hey, it's the best time
26:21
Speaker 4: to get a quarterback is when you don't need one, right,
26:23
Speaker 4: The Packers have been able to do that.
26:25
Speaker 1: It works if it's the right guy, though, it works
26:28
Speaker 1: if it works. It works. If it works.
26:30
Speaker 3: Did it work for the Broncos with Tommy Maddox did not? Absolutely?
26:33
Speaker 3: Good point.
26:34
Speaker 1: Did it work for the Bears with Kate McNown no,
26:37
Speaker 1: I mean, like work for the Falcons with the Michael Nnox?
26:40
Speaker 1: We don't know yet.
26:41
Speaker 5: It worked for the Bears with Justin Fields, or for
26:43
Speaker 5: Biskey or.
26:44
Speaker 4: Go Highways drafted all kinds of guys.
26:49
Speaker 2: I'm convinced most Steelers fans or they don't want to
26:52
Speaker 2: be in the Rogers business.
26:54
Speaker 1: Been there, done that.
26:55
Speaker 2: But that's still it's partially the scars of you know,
26:58
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson.
26:59
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, I mean I don't think. But again, they
27:02
Speaker 3: want the utopia. They want to go and grab Dante
27:04
Speaker 3: more like. Again that sounds well and good. How many
27:08
Speaker 3: times does that ultimately happen? And how many times are
27:09
Speaker 3: you the Jets where you're drafted another one in two years?
27:12
Speaker 1: Many more times? That's the case. I think you.
27:14
Speaker 4: Don't want to also be four you know, they want
27:16
Speaker 4: to win Tenny e Living Games.
27:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not gonna happen either, so you might as
27:19
Speaker 1: well be interesting.
27:20
Speaker 5: Oh no, man, Every year we say, is this the
27:22
Speaker 5: year the Steelers are going to finally fall off. I
27:24
Speaker 5: don't know, it just seems like they keep making the
27:26
Speaker 5: playoffs every damn here, what is it, sixteen seventeen years
27:28
Speaker 5: in a row.
27:29
Speaker 1: They haven't had it. They've never had a losing record.
27:31
Speaker 1: Under Tomlin.
27:32
Speaker 3: They've been to the playoffs I think all but one
27:35
Speaker 3: year since seventeen and they have not gotten out of
27:38
Speaker 3: the first round since twenty sixty.
27:40
Speaker 1: That's a problem.
27:41
Speaker 5: That's reflect but three coaches since what the nineteen sixties
27:44
Speaker 5: until now, that's incredible.
27:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean in all reality, Dolph, out of
27:49
Speaker 3: the last four coaches, out of the four coaches that
27:51
Speaker 3: the Steelers have had during the Super Bowl era, there
27:53
Speaker 3: might have been one before no one. I'm going to
27:55
Speaker 3: be wrong on this, but out of the four coaches,
27:57
Speaker 3: the only one to have a Super Bowl victory before
28:01
Speaker 3: he became the Steelers coach might be the only one
28:02
Speaker 3: to not win one with the Steelers.
28:03
Speaker 1: They were pretty terrible before Chuck Noll.
28:05
Speaker 5: I know that, m I mean the number one they
28:07
Speaker 5: took Terry Bradshaw with the top open, nol Cower and Tomlin.
28:10
Speaker 3: Were all like the youngest coaches in football when they
28:12
Speaker 3: hired him. And then they go with the season Vet
28:14
Speaker 3: and the guy that's got a ring in McCarthy and
28:17
Speaker 3: gonna be tough.
28:17
Speaker 1: That could be a problem, could be rough.
28:19
Speaker 2: Uh all right, so Billy this right of first refusal
28:22
Speaker 2: tender that they gave Rogers protection in case he goes
28:24
Speaker 2: and answers a call from somebody.
28:27
Speaker 1: That campaign right, which they say rarely used.
28:30
Speaker 3: It was used twice last year and both guys went
28:33
Speaker 3: and signed with different teams JK. Dobbins and Elijah Moore.
28:36
Speaker 3: Now not so not the same guys, but but maybe
28:40
Speaker 3: caliber last year.
28:42
Speaker 2: Rogers signed with the Steelers on June seventh, coincidentally after
28:47
Speaker 2: OTAs and right before mini camp.
28:48
Speaker 1: So that's what you're that's probably what you're gonna see that.
28:50
Speaker 2: That's the schedule probably again, which means they have another
28:54
Speaker 2: uh you know, six five five weeks of twisting.
28:58
Speaker 3: Well, and that's where that's where again, like I don't know,
29:01
Speaker 3: we all look at it as they're being held hostage.
29:03
Speaker 3: They don't know behind closed doors. In all reality, do
29:06
Speaker 3: they really need him taking want these reps here or
29:09
Speaker 3: would Mike McCarthy prefer for all the OTAs, all the
29:13
Speaker 3: offseason workouts to be working with the young quarterback. Let
29:16
Speaker 3: them go and have the full runway and then we
29:19
Speaker 3: can get to real business once mini camps and mandatory stuff.
29:21
Speaker 1: If what you just said happens and he goes to
29:23
Speaker 1: Denver someplace else.
29:24
Speaker 5: Who else is out there right now in the free
29:26
Speaker 5: agent quarterback market that the Steelers could snatch up last minute?
29:30
Speaker 1: Anybody? Really, it's not really much.
29:32
Speaker 2: No again, I think they Russell's talking to the Jets
29:35
Speaker 2: about being a backhut.
29:35
Speaker 1: I think I think they'd go with Will Howard.
29:37
Speaker 3: I like, again, this is the dude that won a
29:39
Speaker 3: national title a couple of years ago and was in
29:42
Speaker 3: there building a year ago. And they've also started the
29:45
Speaker 3: likes of Mason Rudolph and Duck Hodges over the last
29:48
Speaker 3: numbers of years.
29:49
Speaker 5: Codd just sing, you know he's an I'm available. Yeah,
29:52
Speaker 5: there you go, is Duck. They married he and Lanny Wilson.
29:54
Speaker 5: I know we're engaged. I don't know if they're married.
29:56
Speaker 5: I believe their I believe they got married. Here, you
29:58
Speaker 5: want to talk, he'll billy one A. That's Duck Hodges.
30:01
Speaker 1: Oh for sure. When you have that kind of an,
30:03
Speaker 1: that's a phenomenal. Yeah. Wait, Declan is his first name? Declan? Definitely?
30:09
Speaker 4: You mean he wasn't named Duck out of the wold.
30:11
Speaker 4: He should have been another player not using his name.
30:14
Speaker 1: I remember he took the media world by score. Still
30:17
Speaker 1: he was in Pittsburgh.
30:18
Speaker 3: Devlin, Duck, Hodges and Laney Wilson still engage.
30:23
Speaker 2: The labor unrest between the National Football League and its officials,
30:28
Speaker 2: and no one.
30:29
Speaker 3: Thinks about that whenever we're a man about the baseball.
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Speaker 3: Mike Silver popped a column today in The Athletic.
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Speaker 1: Man.
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Speaker 2: He moves around a lot, He's all over the place. Dude,
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Speaker 2: who's Mike? I don't know he's this Mike Silver, NFL guy.
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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, yeah, the analytic, Yahoo, the Athletic,
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Speaker 3: the NFL, NFL Network.
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Speaker 1: It was a freelancer at this point pretty much.
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Speaker 2: But the headline on the Mike Silver piece is the
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Speaker 2: fail Mary turnished the NFL brand. I saw it up close.
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Speaker 2: Let's not do this again. That would be a good
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Speaker 2: that would be a good call. That'd be a good
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Speaker 2: call to action.
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Speaker 3: Teen years have passed and it's like, remember him walking
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Speaker 3: off talking to Aaron Rodgers asking him WTF. No doubt
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Speaker 3: was that his picture for a long time was him
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Speaker 3: and Rogers walking off the field and him saying wtf happened?
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Speaker 1: Like that was the you read, John Boy, wtf just happened?
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Speaker 4: And it did and it was a big uproar and
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Speaker 4: it happened to us and it was a huge thing.
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Speaker 4: But I have a question, did it really tarnish the brand?
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Speaker 4: Like it didn't affect their business like the NFL's is successful.
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Speaker 1: It's ever buens.
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Speaker 3: I mean we're yeah, but we're still sitting here talking
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Speaker 3: about it fifteen years later.
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Speaker 1: Bottom line hasn't affected anything. I don't think you.
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Speaker 3: Know, yeah, but it But again, it doesn't mean that
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Speaker 3: it completely hinders it from forward growth. But when you're
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Speaker 3: still talking about it fifteen years later and people can
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Speaker 3: call back to the exact same thing, it's a sting.
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Speaker 1: It's one that sticks with people for a long time.
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Speaker 3: I get what you're saying, it didn't break the brand,
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Speaker 3: but tarnish doesn't mean that it completely devalues it. It's
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Speaker 3: just that there's a nick on there that you're not
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Speaker 3: going to be able to get off. I think they've
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Speaker 3: press themselves a whole lot better this time around. They've
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Speaker 3: gotten themselves prepared and also flexed a little bit of muscle,
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Speaker 3: like Godell was on doing the media rounds during the draft.
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Speaker 1: He's like, listen, what do we want to do.
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Speaker 3: Sorry, we want to hold the officials accountable everyone's favorite term.
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Speaker 3: We want the best officials on the field. We want
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Speaker 3: to be able to move off officials that have not
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Speaker 3: performed well. Sorry, sue us and like they have gone
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Speaker 3: a little bit more outwardly against and said like, hey man,
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Speaker 3: we're the good guys here. We're the ones that are
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Speaker 3: trying to do what you want and make the officials better.
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Speaker 3: Don't don't hate us for trying, Silvers.
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Speaker 1: Comm says.
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Speaker 2: For the league, it was a public relations disaster, a
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Speaker 2: cautionary tale that's become part of sports lore, like the
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Speaker 2: Heidi Game or the Tuck rule or the deflated ball scandal.
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Speaker 2: Some of you were too young to experience the farce.
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Speaker 2: Some were aware of it but have fuzzy memories. Others
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Speaker 2: have tried to forget. I'm here for you because it
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Speaker 2: took over my reality for a short, amusing stretch.
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Speaker 1: I still have some WTF business cards to commemorate. That's funny.
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Speaker 2: I would, for course, what I recall most the arrogance
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Speaker 2: at the heart of the league's hardline strategy and the
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Speaker 2: way players and coaches tried to exploit the situation because
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Speaker 2: as much as of an epic fail as the fail,
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Speaker 2: Mary was a nationally televised clash of playoff bound teams
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Speaker 2: that ended up that ended with what should have been
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Speaker 2: a game clinching interception being ruled of winning touchdown via
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Speaker 2: simultaneous possession. It was merely the culmination of a three
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Speaker 2: week debacle. Prior low lights included an inability to count.
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Speaker 2: Then San Francisco coach forty nine Ers coach Jim Harbaugh
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Speaker 2: was awarded four timeouts and two extra challenges in the
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Speaker 2: final minutes of a defeat of Minnesota, an ardently gesturing player,
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Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals linebacker Sam Acho goading an official into an
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Speaker 2: intentional grounding call, and a game winning Justin tuckerfield goal
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Speaker 2: on Sunday, and football that.
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Speaker 1: May or may not have actually sailed through the uprights.
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Speaker 1: It was a bad one.
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Speaker 2: Sensing hesitance as well as incompetence, coaches and players alike
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Speaker 2: tried to sway the flailing fill ins at every turn.
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Speaker 2: Once it became clear that the replacements lack command of
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Speaker 2: this situation, such responses were inevitable.
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Speaker 1: That was part of it too.
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Speaker 4: Everyone thought they could be opportunistic and convince these guys
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Speaker 4: of a call. Right.
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Speaker 2: One former player told Mike Silver last week, quote, the
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Speaker 2: NFL is all about intimidation.
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Speaker 1: We pray on the week and.
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Speaker 3: These sense the weakness, and these bleeps are the weak,
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Speaker 3: the replacement referees.
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Speaker 1: They're not hard enough for this poudse. And now two
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Speaker 1: days after the fail Mary they settled. So that was
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Speaker 1: that was the culmination of it, according to Silver.
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Speaker 2: The following Sunday, a Lambell phil I was standing on
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Speaker 2: the packer's sideline when the newly reinstated officials emerged from
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Speaker 2: the tunnel during pregame warm ups. I'll never forget the warm,
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Speaker 2: loud ovation they received and the bemused looks on their
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Speaker 2: faces as they half waved to the crowd.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, and that was the thing.
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Speaker 3: They had all the leverage because the NFL didn't necessarily
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Speaker 3: prep for it, didn't think that it was going to
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Speaker 3: be a problem. And then lo and behold, it ended
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Speaker 3: up being the fact that they became The guys that
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Speaker 3: returned ended up being the biggest start on that day.
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Speaker 1: And some will remember this.
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Speaker 2: After dubiously ruling that Saints kick returner Darren spro have
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Speaker 2: been down by contact negating an apparent Packers fumble recovery
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Speaker 2: in New Orleans Territory was seven minutes left. The honeymoon
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Speaker 2: ended with a thud, and within seconds the chant broke out.
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Speaker 2: Refs still suck.
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Speaker 4: The ref still suck's And that's the other thing that's
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Speaker 4: instructive is we fans still complain about the rest every
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Speaker 4: week anyway. I mean, it's still a big topic, So
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Speaker 4: you know, I don't mean to be nihilist about it.
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Speaker 4: I just think it doesn't matter that much. For that,
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Speaker 4: it didn't matter. You know, you don't want you don't
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Speaker 4: want your product to go down a slippery slope. I
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Speaker 4: agree Billy of having stains and things like that, but
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Speaker 4: they've been as successful as anything else in the world.
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Speaker 3: So the NFL might be teflon at this point. Silver
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Speaker 3: goes on a little inside baseball.
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Speaker 2: I didn't cover a week three Sunday game that year,
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Speaker 2: a rarity during my time at Yeah Who Sports. The
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Speaker 2: only reason I've flown to Seattle for the Monday night
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Speaker 2: clash was because I've been invited to a postgame dinner
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Speaker 2: with Marshawn Lynch, who rarely did media interviews, but typically,
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Speaker 2: perhaps because he's got a soft spot for the fellow weirdos,
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Speaker 2: made exceptions for me the cow guy, col guy, cow guy,
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Speaker 2: come on, yes, so yeah, that was epic.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, back here among the tyrant trip call bads, no
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Speaker 2: bucks coach, no deal between the officials and the national.
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Speaker 1: That one's not gonna happen for a while. That one's
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Speaker 1: not going to happen for a while.
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Speaker 3: I assume that they'll try to take that thing up
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Speaker 3: to the absolute wire when we come back, Hunter Bomberart's
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Speaker 3: going to jo us that seven thirty for a little
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