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6-16-26 Hour 1 - Sorsby leaves Texas Tech, Mims on the move?/Rox bullpen blows it/The Curse of Minnesota · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: Not surprising, but Brendan Soorsby will enter these supplemental NFL drafts,
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  Speaker 2: which is always confused me because I can't there's been
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  Speaker 2: what terrelle pryor I know is a supplemental draft pick.
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  Speaker 2: Is there any big name that you remember being one
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  Speaker 2: of these guys, because it's it's an odd thing because
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  Speaker 2: you have to give away a pick the following year
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  Speaker 2: something like that, wherever you take somebody and I don't
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  Speaker 2: even know if Soresby is somebody that is like an
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  Speaker 2: NFL caliber QB that people are looking after. Feels like
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  Speaker 2: he's a really good college quarterback. But it's funny to me,
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  Speaker 2: this is the right decision for him to mutually part
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  Speaker 2: ways with Texas Tech. But all it took was some
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  Speaker 2: big dogs coming together and saying, if you guys play him,
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  Speaker 2: we aren't gonna play you in any sport. And they're like, okay, fine,
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  Speaker 2: he's gone. And it just got me to thinking, does
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  Speaker 2: the SEC and Big ten and the big time players
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  Speaker 2: in college football.
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  Speaker 3: Now say, oh, that was easy.
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  Speaker 2: All we have to do is join hands and loudly
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  Speaker 2: say what we want, and that's what we get.
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  Speaker 4: Nineteen eighty nine, and you the Broncos dip their toes
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  Speaker 4: in the supplemental Draft. They drafted Alabama running back Bobby
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  Speaker 4: Humphrey in nineteen eighty nine.
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  Speaker 5: Oh Bobby, we're.
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  Speaker 4: Fitting their first round pick in the nineteen ninety draft.
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  Speaker 4: In his rookie season, he rushed for over one thousand yards.
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  Speaker 4: He had seven touchdowns. The Broncos reached the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 4: that season. So I do remember the Broncos participating in
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  Speaker 4: the supplemental Draft. It's rare, it's unique.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I haven't.
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  Speaker 4: Heard about anybody entering this fear in quite some time.
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  Speaker 4: But somebody's going to fall in love with Brendan Soresby
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  Speaker 4: a quarterback needy team and he's going to play in
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  Speaker 4: the National Football League.
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  Speaker 5: You can bet your bank on it. Okay, I've seen
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  Speaker 5: him play in person, obviously talked about that before. I
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  Speaker 5: think he's a very very good college quarterback. I don't think,
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  Speaker 5: and I may eat my words, I don't think that
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  Speaker 5: he's a long term NFL quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: I agree with you, I.
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  Speaker 5: Think he is.
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  Speaker 4: You want to bet and you can bet on that
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  Speaker 4: you think he is vic Now I'm just using the
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  Speaker 4: term bet.
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  Speaker 3: Oh oh oh, I like that.
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  Speaker 5: Would you like to place a wager on that?
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  Speaker 2: By the way, the last time a supplemental pick was
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  Speaker 2: used was twenty nineteen. It was Jalen Thompson, who was
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  Speaker 2: a safety from Washington State who was declared ineligible for
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  Speaker 2: a senior season after rules violation. He was the last
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  Speaker 2: player to be picked in the supplemental Draft as of
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. Now, there were two guys that were
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  Speaker 2: drafted in twenty eighteen in the supplemental Draft. It was
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  Speaker 2: a corner out of Western Michigan named Sam Beale and
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  Speaker 2: another corner out of Virginia Tech named Adonis Alexander. Here's
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  Speaker 2: something you'll never hear again. Do you know why they
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  Speaker 2: entered the supplemental Draft? They were declared academically ineligible.
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  Speaker 3: That ain't happening anymore.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The academic ineligibility stuff that schools are going to try
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  Speaker 4: to throw out there is almost laughable now considering that
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  Speaker 4: school is all done in a laptop. Laptop and nobody's
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  Speaker 4: even required to go. Yeah, roblem was the.
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  Speaker 5: Last time you heard that, though, When was the last
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  Speaker 5: time you heard academically ineligible? Look it up.
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  Speaker 4: What was the last major collegiate football player that was
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  Speaker 4: deemed academically ineligible?
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  Speaker 5: Len Dawson. Yeah, go to a history book. I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know either. It's it's been quite a long time.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that'd be hard to do.
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  Speaker 2: I'll get you an answer. Hang on, hang on, I've
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  Speaker 2: never heard of these people. But it says Jamari Robinson,
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  Speaker 2: what school, West Virginia, Okay? Defensive lineman Brendan.
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  Speaker 5: Bett did not a class.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. It's been a long time now.
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  Speaker 2: The last notable I suppose supplemental picks. We're in back
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  Speaker 2: to back years. It was twenty eleven. In twenty twelve
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  Speaker 2: that was Terrell Priory had got suspended for the free
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  Speaker 2: tattoos of all things crazy, and Josh Gordon who had
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  Speaker 2: marijuana issues.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously, there will be a team. I mean, just take
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  Speaker 4: a look at the teams. There's about eight or ten
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  Speaker 4: of them who are quarterback needy that are going to
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  Speaker 4: take a run at this kid.
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  Speaker 5: I believe it. Somebody will. Somebody's gonna fall in. Listen,
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  Speaker 5: he's got a good frame, he's got a pretty pretty
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  Speaker 5: good arm, he's got a lot of tools. I just
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  Speaker 5: what I've watched him play, and I've watched him play
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  Speaker 5: once in person, multiple times on the tube. Because obviously
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  Speaker 5: he was playing for my kids' school and you have
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  Speaker 5: that interest and blah blah blah. He just didn't strike
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  Speaker 5: me as a future NFL material, long term starter material.
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  Speaker 5: But I guess we'll see. Maybe he'll make me eat
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  Speaker 5: my words. I mean, he's a big kid, big frame.
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  Speaker 5: We'll see.
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  Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question, because here's what I
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  Speaker 3: was thinking about.
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  Speaker 2: I think we all agree with the decision that Soresby
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  Speaker 2: should not be allowed to play given what happened. The
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  Speaker 2: fervor in which these big schools came out against Texas
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  Speaker 2: Tech was very loud, very loud. But if I made
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  Speaker 2: it this, if Brendan Soresby transferred to Alabama and they
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  Speaker 2: found a district judge in Tuscaloosa declared him eligible this year,
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  Speaker 2: would the noise be as loud against Bama? Would teams
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  Speaker 2: threaten to not play Bama in every single sport?
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  Speaker 5: I believe so.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, I'm sure they might.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure, not even Bama, not even Bama would
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  Speaker 4: go to those lengths.
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  Speaker 5: Gotta have at least some degree of I'm not even
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  Speaker 5: sure what the word is.
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  Speaker 4: I know teams go out out of their way to cheat,
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  Speaker 4: I get it, but that's blatant.
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  Speaker 2: No, I totally understand. I'm saying, would teams come out
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  Speaker 2: and say I'm not playing Bama ever again in any
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  Speaker 2: sport if they did this, I don't know if it
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  Speaker 2: would go that far, is all I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: It might. It might, But I think about this as
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  Speaker 3: they realize.
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  Speaker 2: Remember when the NCAA said they were gonna peel the decision,
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  Speaker 2: they were gonna throw an appeal out there, and the
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  Speaker 2: schools are like, I don't need you all threaten them
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  Speaker 2: myself because you don't really matter, but I matter, and
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  Speaker 2: we can make this change. It feels like they're realizing
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  Speaker 2: the amount of power that they wield, and maybe they
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  Speaker 2: can do this for a bunch of other issues now
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  Speaker 2: that they find distasteful. Maybe not as bad as somebody
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  Speaker 2: gambling on the sport that they're playing in, but some
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  Speaker 2: other things. Perhaps this leads to do this or all
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  Speaker 2: form my own league, and they do that repeatedly until
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  Speaker 2: they get what they want.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, speaking of the supplemental draft, you know,
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  Speaker 4: there's another supplemental type draft for the National Football League
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  Speaker 4: and the Broncos have benefited from that. Remember a couple
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  Speaker 4: of years ago when the Broncos went into the was
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  Speaker 4: it the UFL and drafted or signed they didn't have
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  Speaker 4: to draft them. They signed Dedre Tillman. Yeah, and now
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  Speaker 4: look at him.
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  Speaker 5: Now he's part of the rotation. Right. He came from
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  Speaker 5: the Birmingham Stallions and now he's part of the Broncos rotation.
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  Speaker 4: So I guess they signed two other dudes that Hakeem
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  Speaker 4: Butler and a return man, Sean Fresh. Maybe this is
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  Speaker 4: the new route that players take. Hey, there's always the
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  Speaker 4: NFL has always talked about a development league outside of
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  Speaker 4: college football.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe this is it.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe guys who are older, who sputtered in college, who
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  Speaker 4: didn't develop properly, they go to this other league, they
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  Speaker 4: get found And I mean, Anddre Tillman's in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Can I do my best? Brian Windhorst, what's going on
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  Speaker 2: with Sean Fresh?
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  Speaker 3: What what's up with Sean Fresh?
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  Speaker 5: What do you say there?
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  Speaker 4: Well, oh, you're you're attaching the Marvin Mims.
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  Speaker 2: Marvin Mims changed his agents in the final year of
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  Speaker 2: his contract. He's the best returner in the league, and
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  Speaker 2: the Broncos of all of a sudden, added about three
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  Speaker 2: different return guys to their spring roster slash summer roster,
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  Speaker 2: including somebody who was in all UFL return man averaging
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  Speaker 2: ten point four yards per punt return.
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  Speaker 3: What's up with Sean Fresh?
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  Speaker 5: Why is he? He's an insurance policy? In case? Mims says, Hey, look, man,
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  Speaker 5: the last year my deal, I've changed agents. Want to
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  Speaker 5: get the hell out of here.
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  Speaker 3: Do you remember this vic from back in March twenty
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  Speaker 3: second of this year, this little interaction that you had
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  Speaker 3: before Nuggets game.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure. I think it really surprised me, you know,
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  Speaker 6: just bringing in a guy like that. But I mean
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  Speaker 6: if you look at his I mean his career ever
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  Speaker 6: since high school to college and now, I mean he's
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  Speaker 6: just an exposive playmaker, and I think offensively, you know,
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  Speaker 6: he always need more playmakers. I think it'll be a
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  Speaker 6: really fun to watch. So we'll just see how it
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  Speaker 6: all comes out this season.
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  Speaker 5: Do you ask yourself, what does that mean for me?
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  Speaker 4: Since you guys are essentially the same type of player.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, a little bit, you know, it's just interesting to
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  Speaker 6: see how often in in the offense about the end
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  Speaker 6: of the day. You know, just for me the past
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  Speaker 6: few years, I mean, the thing I've taken bright in
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  Speaker 6: has been able to play running back, you know, be
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  Speaker 6: a returner, be a receiver. So anyway I can affect
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  Speaker 6: the game, you know, I'm happy to go out.
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  Speaker 5: There and do it.
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  Speaker 2: So that March twenty seconds Nuggets pregame show Marvin Mims
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  Speaker 2: was on. It was a couple days after the Jalen
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  Speaker 2: Model trade and that beginning part.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, I think it really surprised me. You know,
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  Speaker 6: just bringing in the guy like.
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  Speaker 2: That always stuck with me because that was the first
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  Speaker 2: and Marvin Mims is somebody. He's a team guy. He's
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  Speaker 2: never going to make a public stink about anything. But
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  Speaker 2: as the closest I heard to like, I don't I
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  Speaker 2: thought that was me and what I do, and I
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  Speaker 2: guess it's not.
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  Speaker 5: I think, yeah, I assumed it would be, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's great, you know, and wait more depth for our
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  Speaker 5: football team. He's like, no, that surprised me.
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  Speaker 2: Think about this though, Marvin Mims, this guy wasn't a
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  Speaker 2: sixth round pick that she took a flyer on.
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  Speaker 3: That's like, oh, he's a little better than we thought.
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  Speaker 2: He was a second round pick in twenty twenty three,
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  Speaker 2: second rounder, and the next year they drafted Troy Franklin,
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  Speaker 2: and Franklin played immediately. In the year after that, they
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  Speaker 2: drafted Pat Bryant, and Pat Bryant played immediately. In the
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  Speaker 2: year after that, they traded for Jalen Model. What's going
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  Speaker 2: on with Sean Fred? But what do you think is
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  Speaker 2: gonna happen with Marvin Mims. He's not gonna walk in
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  Speaker 2: the final of the year of his deal. He's not
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  Speaker 2: gonna walk away from money. He's not gonna hold out.
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  Speaker 5: Nobody could. He could ask to be moved.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, he could ask, but he's It's doesn't mean he
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  Speaker 4: won't play.
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  Speaker 5: He's gonna play. I mean he's gonna play football for somebody.
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  Speaker 2: But a return, Yeah, it took him when he had
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  Speaker 2: the amazing game in the divisional round that saved their ass.
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  Speaker 2: By the way his performance saved them from going oh
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  Speaker 2: and uh one and done in the postseason. The only
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  Speaker 2: reason he played was in like the first quarter of
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  Speaker 2: that game, Pat Bryant went out with a concussion and
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  Speaker 2: Troy Franklin had a hamstring, so the reason to happen.
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  Speaker 4: Do you really believe that the Denver Broncos would sit
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  Speaker 4: a guy who helps them?
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  Speaker 3: What's going on with Sean Fresh? What's going on?
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  Speaker 5: Sean Fresh is a just in case guy. He played
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  Speaker 5: in the UFL.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that they would bench somebody who would
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  Speaker 2: help them intentionally, but vic they've benched somebody who has
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  Speaker 2: helped them. I don't know how to answer your question.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, he plays, and he plays well, but then
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't play.
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  Speaker 5: So I don't know how to answer that.
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  Speaker 3: They obviously there's obviously something that we don't see with him,
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  Speaker 3: obviously that they see or they practice related.
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  Speaker 4: Who knows, but maybe maybe the switch to Davis Webb
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  Speaker 4: changes things up for him.
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  Speaker 5: It could.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just look, I've watched him change agents a couple
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  Speaker 2: of weeks ago, and then they're they're signing all UFL
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  Speaker 2: punt returners and I'm like, well that you can't have
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  Speaker 2: two of those. There's no two returners taking punts on
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  Speaker 2: the field. I don't know, just asking the question, what's
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  Speaker 2: up with Sean Fresh? What is it?
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  Speaker 3: It's my best, Wendy, I'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 5: I'll let you know on September tenth. Well you want
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  Speaker 5: to know, okay, I'll let you know on September first.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, just thought it was interesting.
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  Speaker 5: Now, I mean, if Marvin Mims goes to this big
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  Speaker 5: agency and it's big. I looked up their list of
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  Speaker 5: clients and they listened them by alphabetical order. It's like
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  Speaker 5: you go through the A you have to scroll and
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  Speaker 5: get through the a's, scroll and get through the b's.
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  Speaker 5: I mean it's and that's the same. I mean, they've
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  Speaker 5: got a ton of agents. It's a big it's a
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  Speaker 5: big company. Of course they're gonna be knocking on George
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  Speaker 5: Payton's door, going you play our guy. You have a
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  Speaker 5: guy a chance to play someplace. I mean, it's coming.
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  Speaker 3: The thing is like, I don't even know.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just say hypothetically they put Marvin Mims on the market.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know what his value would be. Is
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  Speaker 3: he like it? Is he worth a fifth rounder?
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  Speaker 5: We don't know because they don't play it fourth So
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  Speaker 5: let him go someplace else. So if he plays well
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  Speaker 5: or gets an opportunity and plays well, we'll know that
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  Speaker 5: the Bronco has already utilized him. If he's just a
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  Speaker 5: returner and his spot duty guy at the out spot
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  Speaker 5: know the Broncos were one hundred percent correct.
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  Speaker 2: If he went somewhere else and played great, I would
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  Speaker 2: be furious, just be.
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  Speaker 5: Like, what we what do we do here?
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  Speaker 2: If he let's just say you trade him, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: Carolina and he becomes like outside Ted McMillan the number
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  Speaker 2: two option, like this great secondary guy, I would talk.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would just be like, what happened? What was
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  Speaker 3: the whole thing about him not playing here?
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  Speaker 5: Hey, Jerry Judy got better when he was let go.
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  Speaker 3: Well he became He became the number one in Cleveland.
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  Speaker 5: Jerry Judy got better.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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• 15:00
  Speaker 5: Date and uh. As exciting as it was to see
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: twenty three runs put on the A's by the Rockies.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, dude, I was I.
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  Speaker 5: Got sucked in last night.
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  Speaker 3: My wife watched with me.
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  Speaker 5: I got sucked in the late evenings of that game
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  Speaker 5: last night, and.
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  Speaker 7: I okay, oh no, no, no, no, no, wait, wait wait,
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  Speaker 7: I want to talk about this because last night, I
• 15:32
  Speaker 7: think is the perfect example of what this Rocky season is,
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  Speaker 7: which is.
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  Speaker 3: Really fun and really infuriating. We'll get to it next.
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  Speaker 5: Three one delivery.
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  Speaker 1: When in half.
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  Speaker 5: Touches home Cops win, d'th walk up.
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  Speaker 4: This zero at Wrigley Film final.
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  Speaker 5: Score comes the Rockies far second.
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  Speaker 2: Weren't we just talking about this about the worst ways
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  Speaker 2: to lose in sports? We tried to rank him. Wasn't
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  Speaker 2: it like a missed extra point, missed free throw and
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  Speaker 2: walking in a game winning run?
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  Speaker 5: That we just talked about was scoring an own goal?
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  Speaker 3: Scoring an own goal?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, missing a penalty kick thirty yards over the crossbar.
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  Speaker 2: So I've been watching the Rockies for a lot of
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  Speaker 2: this year. Now, I don't watch the first inning to
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  Speaker 2: the ninth inning. I have a life. I can't invest
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  Speaker 2: that much time in a team that stinks. But I
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: do watch a lot, and I watched a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the game last night. From about the fifth inning on,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: actually before, no, I think the fifth inning on, because
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: here's what I noticed, and this is why I like
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  Speaker 2: to watch. I told you guys the other day, I
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  Speaker 2: think they have like a really fun group of young
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: players than the lineup, not pitching staff, but the lineup.
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  Speaker 2: And now cole Kerrigg, who's played his seventh game last night,
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  Speaker 2: is an excellent example of one of these. A guy
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  Speaker 2: who plays center, he can play short. He's got an arm,
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  Speaker 2: he's got speed, he hits for power, hits for average.
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  Speaker 2: He's like a five tool guy. And what does he
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  Speaker 2: do last night? It's a one to nothing game. I
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  Speaker 2: want to start here first, one nothing. Cubs are leading,
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  Speaker 2: going in the top of the six, bases are loaded,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: two outs. Cole krrig is in a battle of an
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: at bat, fallon, pitches off, staying alive, and draws a
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: walk to tie the game. Excellent at bat for a
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: rookie in his seventh game against pitchers he's never seen before.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Excellent ab. Couple innings later, he's got to play it again.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Two out, you're down one again. It's two to one,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: and as a switch hitter, by the way, rips a
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: ball that looked like it was one hundred and fifty
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: miles an hour off the bat to left field, three
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: run homer, four to two lead, and I'm like, oh
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: my god, this is a blast to watch.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: I'm listening to Drew. He's going crazy.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't this guy's got three homers in seven games.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's incredible, and he's just adam to the
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: list of your TJ Rumfields and Troy Johnston's and Kyle
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Carrols and guys like that that You're like, dude, you
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: might have some young core lineup guys here to work with.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: And then the bullpen comes in and I'm done with
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: the Vodnik experiment. The guy can't locate, he can't throw
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: a strike, so I can't do it go and I
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: don't know why they keep going to it. The one
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: thing with Warren shaff from like, it's obvious when you
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: put the guy in it's not gonna work. Now you
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: do have the new rules of it's the beginning of
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: the ending. The guy's gotta face at least three batters,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: thing like I understand that, but he left him in
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: beyond that, like he got two outs, he had two walks,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: he gave.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Up a hit pull him.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Well he didn't, not in time anyway. So Vodnik comes in,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: he walks two guys.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Mahia comes in after.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: They give up the one run to make it four
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: to three, and Mahia gets a strikeout. I think on
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: like four pitches, three or four pitches. It's great, you
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: get out of the inning. Then Mahida starts the ninth.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: You're up one. Mahia goes out and walks two dudes,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: and you're like, for the love.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Of God, throw a strike. And then they're like, well.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: Hold on a second. In between there there was a
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: fielder's choice.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Well no, no, no, What they had was a Taylor made
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: double playball chopper back to the mount and he sends
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: it to center field.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: Correct.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: So then it's like, all right, now the bases are loaded,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: let's bring in Halverson to try and close things out.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: And what does Halverson do? Gets down an account, gives
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: up a base hit the left field tye run scores.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Now bases are loaded, tie game, bottom of the ninth with.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: No outs, stand no chance.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: But Vic, then, why do you get so invested in this?
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: What I don't like me? I was good last night,
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: but I'm not like you. I'm not angry like that. Okay,
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: let me tell you what I mean.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: Let me tell you and d mac and other people
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: that get all angry over these losses. What exactly are
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: you investing in? Do you think this team's going to
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: the playoffs?
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: No, that's what's the investment. That's such a good point.
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: I have no investor trying to explain it to you,
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: but I want to.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: Explain myself before you explain yourself. You tell me, all right,
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: I know I asked you, but I want to tell
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: you how I feel.
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: You got great young players coming out. I know about you,
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: but how about about me. Let them do their thing?
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: Get all fake man like everybody? Oh he's blew another one.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: Oh where are they going?
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Don't accuse me of being fake mad. I am mad
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: this morning. It's like the first game. I actually was mad.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: And here's why. Why Because when you walk in a
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: winning run, it's infuriating, infuriating when you do that after
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: for the second time this week, rookie player gets called
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: up hitting late go ahead bombs, which would make you
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: feel great, and you give it up because the bullpen stinks.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I get mad about it.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: So they win the game. Let's say they win the
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: game and those mistakes didn't happen.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: You get mad and mad, you get mad.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: And Okay, I don't know how to explain to you
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: that they go in the game, but I felt emotions during.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know to tell you I apologize. I'm not
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: one to take away emotions. The point is, I think
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: I'm looking at the bigger picture. Are you showing improvement
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: in areas where yes, they are. They've got younger players.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: This carried guy's a perfect example. They've got a future.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: They've got a future. They've got younger players runfield a future.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: They got guys. So that's that's what you have to.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Live on, right.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, how about this, VIC, to make somewhat of
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: a comparison.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: I suppose.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: You're a really bad team who drafted like second overall
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: and you got a quarterback and that young quarterback just
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: drove you down the field for a potential like game
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: time score, and then you missed the extra point and
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: you're like, well, that's just that makes.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: You feel empty.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: Now, okay, but what's the cost of doing business? What
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: does that cost the Rockies? They're already the team with
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: the worst record in baseball? What does that cost them.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Where are you going? Well, this is you're so upset
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: about one game again. It's the only time I've truly
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: felt this way all year. And I think it's just
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: because I was so excited about to go at Homer
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: from Carry. I thought it was so cool and it
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: got blown not but not because you know what, because
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: the Cubs didn't earn it.
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: That's why.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Because you walked in the winning run, and you walked
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: in the the game time runs.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: And everything else.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Do you guys hear the question of Warren Schaeffer posts
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: talking about for a second, your coaches.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: And managers are invested, Their jobs are on the line.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: There's an investment there. But if you know, going in
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: that this you're not going to the playoffs, what is
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: your investment exactly?
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: I refuse to apologize for caring well.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: I tuned in last night from the about the sixth
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: inning on and I was not heavily involved, but I
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: was curious as to what was gonna happen. Harry goes Yard,
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh man, that's awesome. How about that four
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: to two game. You're feeling good? And I had to
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: stick with it.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: But I mean, moj were there points in the forty so.
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: They took time away from my life.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Were there were there points in the forty eight point
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: season for the after you were mad after a game?
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: Tell?
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's like your team stinks.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: I know that.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: But you had the opportunity to do something cool and
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: you squandered it by doing the stupidest thing possible.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: All right, but here's my question. Four seven nine four
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: writes in I love Kaneer's passion. Hold the Rocks accountable.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: They're our home team accountable for what? What's the accountability?
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: What are you measuring here?
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Well, Vick, here's it like I think you have And
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: this is you're saying, take it a big sure, I
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: will take a big picture.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: When you enter the sphere that you're a team that
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: could compete, that's when accountability happens.
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: Right now, they're just they're they're not even there yet.
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: There is no accountability. Grow and then we'll get to accountability.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Well, but that's that's what I'm saying. I think that
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: you're seeing the areas in which they are growing. I'm
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: telling you, in a couple of years, the guys that
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: we're talking about, the Carrigs and Rumfields and Johnston's and
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: guys like that, Toe VARs everybody else. They're going to
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: be guys that that you can you can build around
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: and potentially hopefully try and win with. But if you're
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: this far away from an entire pitching staff standpoint, then
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: it's it's hard to even look towards that because Vodnik
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: and Halverson and guys like that were supposed to be
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: dudes that were mainstays as you're on the build, and
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: now it doesn't feel like that's the case. Now, Halverson's
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: been okay this year, but you're in a situation you
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: gotta throw a strike, throw a strike, and they just
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: couldn't do it. Now again, grand scheme of things, What
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: does it matter, It doesn't the team's bad.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: They're still bad. They will be bad for the rest
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: of this year.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: The pitch that walked in the winning run, it didn't
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: miss by a little dude.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: But Vodnick peach in the eighth But or was it
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: the beginning of the eighth? Vodnick was down two to
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: zero in account and he threw a fastball that hit
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: the backstop.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: Well, let me explain Halverson with Pete Krol Armstrong at
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: the play. By the way, on the game, losing pitch.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: He's lucky it didn't go to the backstop. That's how
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: far outside it was. Yeah, I mean it was, dude,
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know how to put it.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: You know your route. I guess I don't. I'm not
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: openly going, oh, go Rockies, go Rukies a rookies, but
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: I'm I'm curious, you know, I'm curious as to what's
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: going on. You know, he bumped them the worst team
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: in baseball. Okay, fine to watch that way, but that's
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: that's frustrating.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: It's the way you look.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: I would rather if they lost fifteen to four. I'd
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: be like, Okay, you just see you're bad. But that
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: one's one you you can't lose like that.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: Okay, I get it, but even you're the one who
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: keeps saying it. This year, are they better than they
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: were last year?
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: Right now? They are making improvements? Yes? Do you see
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: do you sense a pulse of some sort?
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: I see guys that you can win with down the road,
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: but I don't. But I don't see it in the
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: pitching staff.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: Do you think a guy like Vodnik will be a
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: member of this they get good? Do you think he'll
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: be around here, I don't think. So that's and and
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: that's where I'm coming from. What why why waste your
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: emotions on a team that's in a transition, You're going
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: from the bottom of the barrel, and you're trying to
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: make that I don't. I don't waste my emotions on.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Stuff like that, vic I have. This is the only
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: place I can put my sports emotions right now.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: There's nothing. I sold my emotions for missing a hole
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: in one by a foot and having a chance to
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: win a car.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: By the way, I was seven feet from it to
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: same hole.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: One foot is different than seven feet, yeah, but mine was.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: It was a went around there. Hang on, here's Warren
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Schaffer after the game.
• 27:26
  Speaker 8: I like, if this game is hard to play, you know,
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: straight up, but when you allow nine walks and an
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: air in the last couple of then to give him
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: some free runs, it's uh, it's not something that the
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: Rockies pride themselves on.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: No, you're asking it, Is that a question?
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: He got motioned. I knew you were going to say that.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: I'm going to give you a statement and then throw
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: the mic.
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: In your just I knew you were going to say that.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: And that's that's not me. I don't do that.
• 27:56
  Speaker 9: The best part of that whole sound bite, by the way,
• 27:58
  Speaker 9: is after he says is that a question, the way
• 28:00
  Speaker 9: the reporter goes, yeah, is.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: That a question?
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Who is that guy?
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah? Is that a question?
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: Oh god? People.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: By the way, fake people said the same thing to me.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: I was like, Cole carrig might be a monster last night.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: And somebody goes, oh, what you're drinking purple kool aid
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: because he had a cool bat flip, and.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: I was like, uh, yeah, it was a question. Yeah,
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: I'm not a super big fan of it, but it
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: was a pretty cool bat flip. I mean, he got
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: some serious he got some serious air.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: How do you feel about how do you feel about
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: athletes and coaches who don't like or whatever they start
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: to go off the reservation and start critiquing questions in
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: the middle of those type of press conferences.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: Is it fair game?
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Not trying to be sensitive. I'm not trying to No,
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: I get it, reporters, but you know that's sort of
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: your role. You just just to answer it, just just
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: just say I largely agree with you. Yeah, I mean,
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: why do you have to just say it?
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: That's one of those look Warren Schaeffer, He's we all
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: know that the job that he's in for this year
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: and last year when he took over this one, and
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: much the same way, like for the first time maybe
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: all year at the Rocks, I'm like, emotional after a loss.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: You're mad, Yeah, I'm mad so so growing up, I
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: can only imagine for him, He's like, I'm trying to
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: do all the right things. I can't tell you to
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: throw the ball over the plate, right, I can't tell
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: you that's that should be a given within your job.
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: So Sesame Street taught me a lot of kid. It
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: taught me the emotions you're feeling right now, Nelly, feel mad.
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: Feel mad, feel mad?
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm allowed to feel mad.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: I'm allowed to feel mad once in a hundred sixty
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: two game season. I'm allowed to be mad one time
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: after a game.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: So you invested time in having Nelly unearthed that piece
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: of audio, Yeah, that's awesome. Behind the scenes we were
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: talking about I'm gonna send you were in the mic
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: telling telling him what to find. I'm gonna send that
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: piece of audio. Was gonna change the course of this
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: radio show.
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna send it to you. Right now. You tell
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: me if you don't like it.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: So while we were talking, you were behind the scenes
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: telling Nelly, go find this, let's play it. This will
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: change everything.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna send it to you right now.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: You don't need to.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: By the way, One interesting little tidbit in that game rarity.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Only eleventh time in MLB history this has happened. Pek
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Armstrong hit for the cycle last night, but he did
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: so in reverse order. He started with the homer, then
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: got the triple, then the double, then the single.
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: Weird. Pretty good player, your reverse cycles weird.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: I think I think this record still holds. I think
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: there's a former Rockies player played in the last twenty
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: years who still holds the record for the fastest cycle
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: of all time. I know the name of the player,
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: but I want to make sure he still holds the record.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: I think Mike Lansing did it and like four innings,
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: Laser by.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: The end of the fourth yep, triple on the first
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: home around the second, double on the third, single on
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: the fourth but on Laser my man still remains the
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: quickest cycle on record.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Look at the poll from.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: VIC so he's a member of Rolling Hills. Yeah, Laser
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: is a good dude. Oh I like that guy.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Well, that's that's a cheat.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: I'm very important see now, Nelly for you to play
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: that drop, I didn't get into your ear and ask
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: you to find that drop. So I tell you what
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: in the next segment, what I'm gonna do is I'm
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: gonna get in your ear and have you find some
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: very very unique drop that's hard to find. Have you
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: spent ten minutes looking.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Let's let's see who can find the most random drop
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: and we return next Mad we'll play my clip. Nelly
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: play it? Oh no, setup just go.
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: I think we have a problem here. Why is that?
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: Do you hear anything? Okay, okay. Roethlisberger the quarterback was
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: off hug it chug it football.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: All night.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: There's my random drop. That's what I want. I just
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: feel about that, Like that one. I made Nelly spend
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: some time digging that one out.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: Hug chug it football.
• 32:47
  Speaker 9: That might actually go on my board.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: That's pretty good. It's one of my favorite quotes. Rather
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: chug it football.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: That's what I want the Broncos offense to be by.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: Oh wait, one thing. We're talking about the World Cup
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: and I brought up Cape Verde Cabo Verde, Cape Verde whatever.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: Nick Vic actually nailed pretty close to where the country is.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: It's an island country. Looked beautiful, it did look beautiful.
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: But I started to look at their roster and all
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: these different dudes, and what's amazing to me. Have you
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: guys ever seen the messy Did you guys see the
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: messy thing? The VHS tape messy thing where he was
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: really unknown in Argentina because he'd gone as a youth
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: to play in Spain and the Argentine national team. Really
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: Vic knew nothing about him. It's a very interesting thing. Well,
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: because he started as a as a youth. I mean
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: he went there, right kid. Well he was like thirteen, yeah,
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: thirteen in those in those camps, Yeah, at Barcelona. Well,
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: Spain wanted him to represent them on an international stage,
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: and finally Argentina woke up. This is he's still very young,
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: he's like seventeen. But I'm like, how do you you're
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: from Argentina? How do you just play for Spain? Well,
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: I was going through the Cape Verde roster. I can't
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: find anybody on the roster really who's from cap Verde.
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: I mean, were you surprised? No? But like, they're from France,
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: and they're from Portugal, and there's a couple guys from
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: cap Verdy, but a lot of guys.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: So when you say from is this like one of
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: those Olympic Baseball things where it's like, oh, my great
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: grandma is from here.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: So I can you know what I mean?
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: I guess. I mean there are guys from Cape Verde,
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: but but some guys are from other countries that come
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: and play for kate Verdey. I'm like, well, if you're
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: not born there, how do you get to play for them?
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: How does that work?
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's the same reason the US has
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: a striker who was born in New York and raised
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: in London and he has his choice.
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: I mean, you have his choice of where to play,
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: right Roberto Lopez Lopes Lopes, born in Ireland, plays for
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: the Shamrock Rovers. But are you playing for cap Verde
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, hmm, I don't. I don't know how
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: you do that.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Texter says, it's like the Carrossow roster. Apparently only one
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: of them was actually born in Carrousel. The rest were
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: born in the Netherlands. Since Carrosow falls under the Netherlands umbrella.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: Ah, so if you want to, if you want a
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: good enough team, you can sort of stretch the rules
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: enough to say, ah, I do it. It's like the
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: Italian baseball team. Mike Smith from you know what do
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: your California? Uh you look Italian? Oh my great great
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: great grandfather one time, spent time there during the war.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Ah, it's good enough.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: It's about It's about the name.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Though. Vinny pass Quentino is somebody that I think should
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: play for Italy. That's totally fine with me.
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you have eighteen vowels in your name. You should
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: do that, by the way.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Most by the way, right now, the shirt you're wearing,
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: which you've worn several times, you are now representing the US.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: You look exactly like the US soccer coach. That's what
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: he wears. He wears your fishing shirts.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: Oh you're kidding. Yeah, I like with the vest. You
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: noticed that last time. He's from Argentina. That's how he dresses.
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: Let's see.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Laid back, the Moser style and Mauricio Porcatino, Pochettino. I'm
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: not seeing any of these things that you're suggesting. The
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: last game, I'm trying to I'm trying to find it.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: They kept cutting to him and he was I was like,
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: is this some random fan?
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: See a lot of quarter Zis this guy?
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: Last game? He was wearing one of Moser's fishing shirts.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: In fact, he had a couple of lures in there.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Didy, Yeah, the hat with the lua on top of
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: the bill. So wait a minute, here we go. Yeah,
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: you know what kind of got the look? A little
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: bit of the look?
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, my man, good head of hair on that guy.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: He does Russell Crowe hair.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: You're right though, he does look like Russell Crowe.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, kinda.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Older Russell Crowe, not Gladiator Russell crow like this version
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: of Russell Crowe.
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: All right, so let me I'll get the sleeves rolled
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: up too. You guys continue on, Well, yeah, sleeves.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: There's a there's this thing going on. Bet MGM sent
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: this out last night. They asked the question, is Minnesota cursed?
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: It is weird to look at it this way.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Kat was a huge part of the Tea Wolves roster. Right, Yeah,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Helion wins a championship, goes to New York wins a championship.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold just took that team to a fourteen win
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Viking season. Muson wins a championship, moved on, won a
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: super Bowl. Kevin Love when he left Minnesota, mainstay for
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: the Wolves. Yeah, left two years later in Miami, won
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: a championship. Or I'm sorry in Cleveland.
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah uh.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Kevin Gardner left in two thousand and seven. The next
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: year Boston won a championship. Yeah, you can even take
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: it back. David Ortiz in two thousand and two was
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: a Minnesota twin. Two years later in Boston they win
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: their first title in a hundred and whatever year.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: Wait wait, wait, wait, wait wait, I guess my sense
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: of history is not so good. You tell me Big
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: Poppy was a twin. Big Poppy was a twin. You
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: don't remember that, No, I don't. I don't now he wasn't.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: He wasn't as notable as as Boston Big Poppy, but
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: yes he.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: Was a to Well, Boston Big Poppy was a super
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: duper star.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: So all of those guys that you consider like mainstay
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: franchise ish type players, I guess Sam Donald's not quite that.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Within two years won a championship elsewhere.
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: You know, it's crazy.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: The trade between the Knicks and the Tea Wolves that
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: involved Randall and Dante DiVincenzo.
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: It's safe to say for the first year that trade,
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: the Tea.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: Wolves won that deal. I thought they did, But now
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: in hindsight, the Knicks won the deal. They won a championship. Yeah,
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: Kat was a missing piece and he played a vital
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: role on the That's a close one because they both
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: profited from that trade.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's necessarily a loser from the trade.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: But I mean the Knicks won a title, so they
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: get the ultimate sort of middle finger.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: I guess they could throw at him.
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: Oh, you forgot one too.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: Andrew Wiggins played in Minnesota for the Timberwolves. He goes
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: on to win a champion That's right.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: Was that within two years?
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: I don't know if it was within two years, but
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: he goes on the Golden State and wins one. There.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of that going on here, A lot
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: of examples. In his last year with the t Wolves
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: was twenty twenty. He was traded mid season and yeah,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: within two years. I think the Warriors won in twenty
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: twenty two, didn't.
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: They Who who did they trade for? Andrew Wiggins? Hang on?
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, within two years? That one too, Uh? Andrew
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Wiggins trade.
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: Trying to remember who was part of that deal.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: So that was for D'Angelo Russell, Jacob Evans and Omari Spellman.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, wait a minute, Wait a minute, Minnesota.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Minnesota also sent a twenty twenty one first round pick
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one second round pick.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: The Golden State.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Really gracious move was made to pay Russell with his
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: close friend Karl Anthony Towns.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Back then, D'Angelo Russell was seen as like a really
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: big name, big player, right.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Man, that's crazy. How many different examples are you gonna get?
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: That's nuts? Uh, but I don't know. Maybe the ar cursed.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: I got something. By the way, there's these these things.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know what these are.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, these are like weird new books, these polymarkets and
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Calshi's these things.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Right what what?
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: What is that? Help me up? I'm really dumb.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: What I see him all the time.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: It's like is that, uh the future's odds say that,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: uh Timothy Chalomagne will be at the championship parade.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you can bet on this stuff now, Okay? Fine?
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: Is everything bettable?
• 41:23
  Speaker 9: Everything that's Calci's whole thing is you could open up
• 41:26
  Speaker 9: Calci and bet on will Moje call for a random
• 41:31
  Speaker 9: SoundBite from Sesame Street. The odds that happening are minus
• 41:34
  Speaker 9: two fifty, like you can.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Bet on, you can bet on like alien invasion, yesos
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that.
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: I want to ask a serious question, who does this?
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: I have no idea who who does this stuff? I
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: don't know.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Somebody said there's a guaranteed way to win money, and
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: it's will Jesus come back to Earth? Is one of
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: the bets you can make by the twenty fifty or
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: something like that, and they go, just bet no, because
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: if it doesn't happen, you win money. If it does happen,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: money's not gonna matter anyway. And I'm like, you know what,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: great point.
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: Who dailed this? Who does this? What is that? What
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: are we doing? Well?
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: Cal she has this?
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: What are we doing? What's going on?
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: They have the early.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Favorites to win the twenty twenty seven NBA Finals, And
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: I want you to ponder this where you think the
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Nuggets stack up in this?
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: They have it by percentage, by the way, by percentage.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: Also, do you know, well, I looked at the odds
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: for the Stanley Cup for next year.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: We can do both, says Bucket. We'll do both, but
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I want you to think about where do these teams lie.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: We'll get to it in just a second. Stackground