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Bonus: Athletics LLC S3 E43 'Buying your way thru' February 10, 2023 · The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast

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  The athletic. The last time we were going to
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  have some great performances and so we're going to talk about
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  that. But nonetheless, welcome to
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  Athletics LLC, another fun episode of just all things and
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  not things related to track. So the governor, how are you
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  tonight? We are gathering ourselves just
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  got back from New York Sunday and you have Conference next
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  week. Not this weekend, but next week,
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  we're week earlier than everybody.
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  And so final preparations, and yeah, so we're so far so good.
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  Crazy like we're already at that conference time.
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  I know this has been a very very short indoor season, very short,
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  in my opinion. Quiet.
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  How about yourself, sir. How are you today?
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  You know, trying to prepare ourselves to head back down
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  Albuquerque for the Don Kirby this upcoming weekend.
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  That's going to be crazy, right? Always one of the if not, the
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  best West Coast meat of the regular season conference in two
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  weeks and here in beautiful, San Jose, I am managing chaos every
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  day, which is always fun. I keep walking around the
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  hallways Mischief Managed. It's just managed because it
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  just keeps popping back up. Well Mom.
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  Hello. Good people.
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  Hello, how are you today, sir? I'm really good.
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  I'm really good at wasn't convincing whatsoever but go
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  ahead. Oh no, you know, I think I'm
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  sort of deep in thought I'm actually doing really well.
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  Sign a new client That's a new look contact coming out and I
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  think most importantly, the guys are getting ready to head back
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  to their respective homes. To go play baseball
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  professionally and that's a wonderful thing.
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  Well, you can go and hold up that balloon for all of us, so
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  well. Let's go.
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  I mean face first, just Dive Right into track is back because
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  literally so I would like I said I was at Albuquerque last
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  weekend and I promised you I don't like it's happening.
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  It's happening, right. And so what race?
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  It was the prelims of the women 60.
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  And for the first time ever in my, what is this 14 years of
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  coaching? Now, I literally didn't have an
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  athlete to coach actively coach. Like, obviously I'm the cheering
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  on the squatter whatnot. So I told my group who were
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  sitting I'm sitting next to you. I said, you'll need to put your
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  phones down and watch this race because it was Who is in the
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  heat? It was a stacked.
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  Prelim might just watch and the girls really And then my guy
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  pole vaulter, best cooks that was definitely faster than I can
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  run its Lucky it. Sticked pole vaulting sir.
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  I mean listen, Alfred I'm sorry. She is in a class by herself
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  amongst the Collegiates right now.
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  It just is what it is. She is destroying high-quality
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  Fields. I mean, if you take her out of
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  that race it's a high-quality feel, right?
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  And I mean, listen, she's obviously at this point, you
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  know, she's the NCAA record holders.
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  He's the best that we've seen at that race at this level.
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  I mean, She will be professional in not too long and it's your
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  16th right. And this is just, this is just
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  what it is right now. It's really fun to watch and I
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  just appreciate the The the measured aggression of which she
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  run crates, it hasn't always played, you know that well for
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  her Outdoors but indoors and 60, oh my God, like its it is
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  ridiculous. And honestly I really I really
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  can't imagine anyone in the NCAA challenging her this this year.
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  It's it's just a matter of how fast can she go and I don't, I
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  don't imagine she's done because it's not late February, damn,
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  Sure isn't March yet. So I'm just waiting to see what
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  it what it turns out it's me. Well, considering that, I mean,
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  this weekend is Texas at Arkansas or they believe, huh,
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  leave. So I'll check, but I believe,
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  yeah, but She still has to come back to New Mexico.
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  So I mean what do you think about this?
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  She goes. I think that Tech.
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  Yeah. And then you go back down.
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  Yeah, yeah. So yeah, this this is this is
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  going to be, I think, I mean I think she can still go faster.
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  I think she still ironing out. Erasing.
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  And but what I love about it is she is taking her lumps and
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  she's had her ups and downs and she's had, you know, I mean
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  false start all those things. I mean, those are all
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  character-building things that have set her up for this year
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  and you know, injuries, notwithstanding?
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  I mean, as long as she As the course trust.
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  Her coach trust her training. She is going to be a threat this
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  summer. I feel like going to be a threat
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  to summer for sure. And that is going to set up well
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  for for 2024. So once again once again, you
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  know, this is still the greatest great breeding ground for future
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  world, champions Olympians, etc, etc, And you know, I just feel
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  like this. We're just going to see this
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  continue over and over and over again because there's someone is
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  watching Julian right now and is going, you know what my time is
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  coming. You know, you think about the
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  graduating class or well, not graduating class with the folks
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  that started last year that have moved on.
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  It was only right for Julian to step into that place and say,
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  hey this is mine. So I'm excited for her and And I
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  can't wait to see what's who, what we're going to see in the
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  next couple weeks, for sure and there at Tiger Paul according to
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  their schedule this week. Oh okay your Clemson.
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  Okay they're going to the other fast-track.
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  This is only for at this point for as far as the world is
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  concerned right? Like yep.
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  Yeah. My only my only comments about
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  what Miss Alfred has been doing is one.
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  Can we let her sit down for a week at some point and to as
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  fast as she's gonna get her, get her country.
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  Get her a uniform this summer. Oh man.
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  Wow wow. Wow wow, wow.
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  I mean I wish I was I wish I was being petty.
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  I mean the poor young lady had to wear like you know a black
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  off-the-rack uniform at world. A few chips like what are we
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  doing? Like your federation's
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  federation's need to remember that they exist because of the
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  athletes. Not the other way around.
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  Yeah. But yeah, I mean like look that
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  mean that was that was awesome. But you know, look, we can't use
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  the whole hour on track is back. But man, we sure as there's a
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  lot, this is what I loved. I love the irony of Of the New
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  Balance meet because the world record holder in the 400 hurdles
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  ran the 60, the runner-up in the, in the 400 hurdles ran the
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  500 and broke the world record, right?
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  And the world champion and American record holder in the
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  201, the 60 over, what is supposed to be the best starter
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  in the business? I thought, all of that was As
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  much as like, all of that is like this.
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  And then there was Grant. Yes, who like?
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  Yeah. Listen Grant is getting to be
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  indoors like death and taxes. Yeah, right.
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  Like we don't have we don't have Solutions on tonight to give the
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  long long season opening debut of what's grants grade.
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  But I mean we all know I mean it's probably a bee I mean it
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  wasn't one of his better starts. Like I said, it's probably a b
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  but he can run. He can literally run seven 30s.
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  Yes any day. Yeah yeah and me we're yeah.
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  And it's the nobody else can. Yeah, well the the New Mexico
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  me. the American Indoor circuit is always like, Interesting, if
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  not weird right? Highlighted by everything.
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  You just said the, the one of the cooler things that I saw
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  from that particular meat and it's not probably anything that
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  we catch anybody's like true attention, but there was a
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  shrieking Elvis sighting. Hmm.
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  Okay. And you know, she's back in
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  Texas with the team that had her at her best And you too.
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  Yeah, oh okay. And and if if Sharika is gonna
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  get back to who she can be and you know, push the American side
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  of the hurdles back up in the mix it.
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  Everybody forgets hardest event in the in the in the world.
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  We dominated it for however, long but we didn't get any
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  medals last year, like not a one.
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  So I am here for the rebirth of shrieking Elvis.
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  Sure. And you know, I'm happy to see
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  it but you know it I don't think a lot of people were paying
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  attention to that one in particular and so that I thought
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  that was cool as I just want to see our ladies in that event,
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  you know, go back to where they've always been but it's
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  while I'm on this hurdle kick from this past weekend.
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  The USC men have the number one, and number three, her Adler's in
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  the country right now. Who saw that coming at Warren.
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  They are number one and number three, 760 and 765.
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  Okay so they run they run a decent 4x4 as well.
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  Yes. Yeah.
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  Like they got drugs. I mean right right now.
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  Florida is the last team in the fastest eat at the NCAA me on
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  the men's side that is right there.
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  They are number four, USC's number five.
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  Folks listen you know are tracking back.
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  Track is back section is never not going to include this
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  portion for me since the beginning of last year.
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  I've been on this, we're on the 60 watch.
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  So I want to give you all an update because not everybody's
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  paying attention is Are three guys tied at 63.
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  They are 14 15, 16? I don't know that this, that's
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  but this weekend, right? That's my point.
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  You have tiger, paw Tyson, you have Don Kirby and then, oh, you
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  have championships to come 661 is not going to live.
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  So. So I wanted to do this segment,
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  we're not going to do it until we have all five of us, but
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  we're going to do a segment. We're all going to predict a
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  ridiculous Mark that doesn't make the national meat and I
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  promise you. Somebody who has run
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  ridiculously fast in the 60, it's going to be good.
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  Be like Chris Brown said are you going to talk crap?
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  Will you outside the club? You can't even get in because
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  look look, 663 and ties is last into the meat right now on the
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  men's side and this coming weekend is traditionally the
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  fastest week of the year. Yes, the Valentine's weekend is
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  always the fat. And now we've added to the chaos
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  and nonsense that used to just be everybody's going to go to
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  Tyson, okay? So now we're going to go to
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  Tyson and Clemson and oh, by the way, throw in the new
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  Albuquerque and altitude. Yes, that's right.
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  Yeah, that's right. Well being, you know, a jumps
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  coach, I am absolutely thrilled at what?
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  I'm seeing right now in a men's long jump right now, it takes
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  783 to make it to the mean. Okay, men.
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  It's been a long time. It's been a long, long time
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  since I've been since I've seen. I mean, the last couple years,
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  it's taken 767 70s like, right. But we're still not done and
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  that's, that's the part that needs to be emphasized.
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  If these jumpers continue down the road, they're going, I mean
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  792 make it. I mean, that is that is
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  unprecedented. You guys are old enough to know
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  the answer. This question.
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  When is it one of the marks of the indoor meet, always the
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  craziest, the years that the SEC tar in Fayetteville?
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  Yes. Yeah.
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  Oh my God. Yep.
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  Yep. Yep.
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  So I mean it, this is I mean, I'm glad Glad to see it.
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  And you know, I mean, did anyone pay attention to the young man
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  from Arkansas? What do you do?
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  I was I was waiting for that for the paws in the air.
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  Woohoo. So that was from eight contacts.
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  So like I look up and I see people contacts it context.
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  That's four, left's people. So I look up and I'm like, dang,
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  I miss just like I miss this acceleration.
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  Miss the start of the jump. Yeah, I don't know where you
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  started from cause I was really like knowing dues trials and
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  tribulations with that Runway. I want to see what he did.
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  Yes, you're like, oh man, I'll wait for the next attempt.
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  I look at the Nexus of life. Oh, I saw the whole thing that
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  was. Yeah, and he didn't talk about
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  it either and Coach Jackson recorded it, we looked at it
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  again. I was like, Ironically as
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  awesome as that is the women's long jump.
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  Is kind of lame right now. Yes, but it's pretty lame right
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  now, but you can you can bet your bottom dollar this weekend.
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  You're going to see crazy women's long jump marks out of
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  Arkansas, Clemson and down curve.
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  You can breathe. You can bet your bottom dollar
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  on that. Yeah, I hope so.
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  Cuz right now number 16, In is 622.
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  Yeah, yeah that's trash. That's when it will, stay that
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  and will stay that way. So, yes, I was like I got to go
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  there 590 and valid attendance at 6 meters.
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  Legitimately I felt like we were back in Europe because so I
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  don't know if anybody saw my tweet one.
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  Albuquerque, who is the organization that sets up the
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  track and whatnot in the convention center.
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  They actually brought a DJ out and he was freaking trigger
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  Ricky. Like the whole day and he stayed
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  bless his heart. His both days were super long
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  because the pole vault legitimately just pull and so
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  yeah. I was like, oh, I'm so sorry he
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  hates poll right now. So on the first date, like Olga
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  is my girl, my girl One the B section and we've bought it till
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  10:00. And so like he was out there, he
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  was asking, like, what song? What song is going to get you
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  over the bar and I was like, that's awesome for him to ask
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  that. Yeah.
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  So he plays her song valid attempt no clear but whenever we
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  she want to be section. So someday is up, Zach Bradford
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  still in and Sandra's playing the chess, not Checkers, where
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  he's missed the bar once passed in the next bar because he knows
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  he can take get it. So, makes out one.
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  Then we go to 590 and he makes Zach doesn't make go to sixth
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  and so it's known that he had to clear 590.
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  I can't remember why I'll start my head.
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  I can try, but he had to clear 590 on Saturday and so he clears
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  niggas 6 meters and I'm literally like, does anybody
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  realize what Watching right now, mmm-hmm, and we're myself in the
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  tube holders are sitting, there were sitting right on the edge
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  of the track and like I mean, we were there for like we're in the
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  right? So we're truly Spectators here,
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  I'm sitting right on the track, it was amazing, it really was
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  and it's a competitor. He was grateful and very humble
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  so. Well, in the moment he was
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  humble whether he really is in our own, but whatever.
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  So, Shout out to Saint Andre. I mean, we are seeing I mean,
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  while we're on that, I have to give a shout out to Rasheeda a
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  delicate. Yeah.
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  Literally rewriting, the Irish record books.
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  Every time she gets out there, this young lady has range from
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  the 60 all the way it. I mean, she is like the Sprinter
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  version of a thing mole right now.
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  Yeah, like she has that kind of range.
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  You can put her anywhere and, you know, obviously, you know,
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  breaking into double the record, you know, Julian breaking the
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  record. I mean, that's that's going to
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  overshadow everything, but I mean, I she's box office.
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  I mean, and I'm looking forward to see what she does as well.
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  Because, yeah, we're not in mid-February and she's already
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  run, 50, 45 and 2252. I'm telling you that the 5045
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  I've my gasps yeah effortless yes, yeah, fretless.
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  Yeah. Now on that, on that note, did
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  anyone see how easily our friend from LSU ran at 200 that look?
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  Now that looks scary easy. She oh my goodness.
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  You know you said earlier it's about taking your lumps right.
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  Mmm. She's a grown woman problem.
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  Yeah, yeah, yep. Yep, yep.
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  She's a, she's a grown woman problem this year.
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  So we'll end up asking this question in a, in another
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  context later on, in a few weeks, I'm sure.
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  But remind me again, sigh legitimately do not know.
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  Abby, set the record last year in the end or two at what Isn't
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  it 10:40 thing goes faster than that?
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  No endorse indoors. I think it goes faster than that
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  for some reason I feel like it's 10:40 it was also the important
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  16 16, 20 to 16, okay? So that's the record.
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  Does favor or a delicate, a get that Well, here's the thing.
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  Do they end up running against each other?
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  Well, be so that's the thing. Wait, is that?
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  Yeah, it might not, it might not happen ever.
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  No. But I think favor gets it at
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  conference. Yeah, I think so.
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  Yeah, I mean she obviously can like that poof.
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  Yeah, that that's fun. I think the I think the forelady
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  He's in the fast heat at the SEC final or gonna run under 23
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  seconds. I mean, you mean under 22
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  seconds, It's going to be good. And and then and then because of
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  our wonderful, you know, the way we do things, which I get I do
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  really get like they made they may very well not race each
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  other at the NCAA. Mmm.
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  But okay, so the correct. So the current rules are one and
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  two are in 5. 3 & 4 are in six. That is correct.
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  Yes, I mean look, that's the only fair way to do it.
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  That's what I'm saying. Like, I get it is where it is.
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  It's the best. It's the best way to do it.
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  To give you a favorable Lane. Yes.
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  But this is Bart. This is the reason they don't
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  run the 200 Arab world championship of anymore, because
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  because of that, But I'm I'm here for it.
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  I think it's I think the 200 up indoors is Amazing Race and I'm
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  glad we still have it at the, at the best track meet on the
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  planet. Now, we would be remiss not to
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  mention because we mentioned the other three showcase meets this
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  weekend. There's a, there's a 4, there is
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  a fourth and, and it is going on on the East Coast at the The
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  Ballantyne Invitational it up in Boston.
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  Now currently listen, if you are running too early for the launch
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  pad will get you there. Oh my gosh.
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  Currently you know that particular venue is where the
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  distance crew comes to flock and do their thing.
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  Hmm. My boy gave Sanders is the
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  current director of track and field.
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  I just want to share everybody. A little stat, which blew my
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  mind this weekend in the mile. There are four hundred and
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  ninety nine men entered the undermine just just just take
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  the moment to let that wash over.
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  You 199 injuries. Of which 64 are seated under
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  four minutes and is roughly 13% of the field.
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  And again 500 athletes are going to run the mile in ball.
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  Hey So, here it look. I I'm going to take this baton
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  from Clyde because he was there in the conversation that we had
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  at the convention with weird game.
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  That's not the featured event. No, no, it's not.
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  No, it's not. So, so they had so many entries
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  last year in the 5K because that's the guarantee, right?
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  You go there run the 5K. You're going to go to the
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  Nationals, they had so many entries in an attempt to not
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  have this happen. Again, they listen carefully,
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  doubled the entry fee, just for the 5K and And they had 80% more
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  entrance than last year. That's right.
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  Not and you shouldn't be shocked by that gave and the rest of the
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  world because this is America, it ain't oh my gosh, if it aint,
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  if it's not cool, right? So I'm here, I love it
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  Albuquerque this year. They have basically I call it a
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  tax, you have $40 you have your your whatever, your three per
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  event. Yes, after that you could put as
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  many people in the 200 as you won't, but you going to pay it
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  as forty fifty dollar tax. Yeah, and I know that the
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  psychology behind that was. Okay.
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  We going to limit the number of entries, I promise you.
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  When I first started, I was like, oh, I can just pay, I
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  don't have to ask no more. You quit Hey, so get mileage is
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  like a bug. Get the money.
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  I'm mad at it. I think it's great, but yes.
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  Oh no, you gave said he funded. They fun their outdoor, their
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  outdoor travel budget. Yes.
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  But from this meat, I'm not surprised at all.
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  Not at all. All right?
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  And I got when I got older, you know what that that New Mexico
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  meet we went to two weeks ago, I got wind of what they made
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  before a Person stepped on the track.
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  And I was just like, yeah. And that wasn't a big me.
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  No, no, it was hot, but it was, yes, exactly.
• 27:14
  So, yeah, all of you people out there who are still on this, the
• 27:18
  tracks don't really matter. Kick one, you're a fool.
• 27:22
  Yeah, get your money on. Be careful.
• 27:25
  You see what's happening? Roll your quarters to get it
• 27:27
  ready? It's not an accident.
• 27:31
  Nope, shout out to the Albuquerque crew because they
• 27:36
  only have five coaches right now.
• 27:37
  Yes yep yep yep, yep, they do a great job, they all work hard,
• 27:43
  they work hard, really hard. But I have to ask the rest of
• 27:49
  the world. This question, am I the only one
• 27:51
  that was absolutely startled by the high-pitched of fem cables
• 27:56
  voice. I'm sure it.
• 27:59
  Okay, she sound her voice is higher than friend.
• 28:02
  Drescher's, really? Yes.
• 28:06
  Is higher than Rosie Perez has she sounds like she's six.
• 28:10
  And I was like, she's like 61, hmm.
• 28:16
  I was amazed by this. I kept rewinding it.
• 28:19
  Like that's not right. Yeah, anyway, she's amazing
• 28:24
  though. Oh, one more thing.
• 28:27
  We are obviously on world record, watch for the men's four
• 28:29
  by four. Yes, we are.
• 28:32
  So, the conversation, I think it actually went out on social
• 28:36
  media, Aiden basically was, I all my bad.
• 28:44
  Because he's Puerto Rican. I don't care about none of that.
• 28:49
  It's going to be the world record.
• 28:51
  This is this is right Benjamin all over again, huh?
• 28:54
  Right? Yeah, I don't care about none of
• 28:56
  that. USC is the rightful world record
• 28:59
  holders? I don't hear nothing about Papa.
• 29:01
  I'm going to say this. The world record in the 4 by 4
• 29:04
  is going to get broken in all four.
• 29:06
  People are going to be from the same country.
• 29:09
  And we're just going to leave that and keep it moving forward.
• 29:12
  I said it. All right.
• 29:18
  That's not that that's enough of track is back.
• 29:20
  But let's stop boring, everybody because we can keep going.
• 29:22
  Of course we said that a try is back y'all.
• 29:26
  Yes it is. I can't even believe it anyways.
• 29:30
  Alright, so we've somewhat discussed this already but not
• 29:35
  necessarily we've recognized and a lot of the The world track and
• 29:40
  field world has recognized that track is mostly a Pay-Per-View
• 29:43
  event. We have to pay to see the real
• 29:45
  events or the good parts. What we deem is the good parts.
• 29:49
  Is that good bad or a non-factor in the promotion of our sport?
• 29:56
  I mean it's probably probably net shitty but you know, I mean
• 30:07
  what are you going to do about it?
• 30:09
  Like unless it I mean right now ESPN is the only Network that
• 30:14
  really ever puts Collegiate meets on TV straight up.
• 30:19
  Everybody else you're behind the pay wall, run a space, flowtraq,
• 30:24
  whatever. So I mean right now unless ESPN
• 30:29
  is willing to do it and gets the rights to set me kind of just is
• 30:33
  what it is. I'm glad that you can see it if
• 30:37
  you want to see it. That's better than not being
• 30:39
  able to see it, which let's be clear a couple years ago.
• 30:42
  You couldn't see nothing. So, it's an improvement.
• 30:46
  But should I mean, what? I like it to be different.
• 30:49
  Sure. But let's be real.
• 30:51
  Who's putting it on? They're not going to do it.
• 30:55
  Yeah it's it's a sad reality. Like I go back to 1992 when they
• 31:05
  showed the entire long jump battle between Mike and Carl.
• 31:11
  They went to commercial. They came back.
• 31:14
  They were showing jump for jump, 91, almost two hours.
• 31:21
  That was box office. What network was that for me?
• 31:24
  That was ABC, CBS, ABC and it's a sad reality that we live in
• 31:39
  right now and can we blame the flow track.
• 31:43
  So the rotor space of the world to step into that void and you
• 31:49
  know, send their You know, send their people out and get the
• 31:53
  content and, you know, have people pay for it?
• 31:56
  Absolutely not. This is America, right?
• 31:58
  This is, you are, you know, maximizing and getting in, where
• 32:03
  you fit in and as long as people are willing to pay, you know, to
• 32:09
  pay the subscriptions. I don't see this changing
• 32:13
  anytime soon. I just feel like, There's so
• 32:20
  much content now. I mean, okay.
• 32:25
  This is the other part too, I'm not really sure on what the
• 32:29
  universities are doing where they're, you know, putting out
• 32:34
  their own content. I mean, are you having to pay
• 32:37
  for that as well? Or is it, are they just putting
• 32:39
  it up on their website? Depends on the University.
• 32:42
  Depends on the University. Yeah.
• 32:45
  So, you know what's that exit? So, I mean I feel like Any given
• 32:55
  weekend you hear about something, you can either see it
• 32:59
  on social media the clip or if you're willing to go through and
• 33:05
  find the entire broadcast and sift through and find that that
• 33:08
  one moment of magic. Then.
• 33:10
  Yeah but you know it's I hate that you know, for us that we're
• 33:18
  having to we're still having to pay for it.
• 33:20
  I hate that. So I guess this is how I feel.
• 33:29
  I think the best case scenario would be a combination, right?
• 33:35
  Every meat should have a Power Hour.
• 33:40
  That is broadcasted on insert Network here.
• 33:44
  Because if you, if you packaged it right, it's only an hour.
• 33:50
  Every single one of these meats, we talked about could be
• 33:53
  televised, and then the pay-per-view would be if you
• 33:56
  wanted like, the full content. So you want to stuff to happen
• 33:59
  before the hour if you wanted. I mean I hate that.
• 34:02
  Listen, obviously I'm a huge field of in person, but if you
• 34:04
  wanted the field of in coverage, like all those things, like then
• 34:08
  you'd like to pay for the package and that's You get but
• 34:10
  one hour, one high hour of every track meet should be free and
• 34:16
  should be on its kind of the UFC model, right?
• 34:21
  You get some free UFC. You may not get the best of it.
• 34:26
  Yeah. You certainly don't get all of
• 34:27
  it, right? But you get some free UFC.
• 34:33
  But what I'll say the problem we have the reason I think it's bad
• 34:39
  is we went to this model before we had popularity or I should
• 34:45
  say not true after our popularity died.
• 34:49
  So now we have literally earmarked ourself into a niche,
• 34:53
  that's it, no new fans need apply.
• 34:57
  Because even if you gain new fans from the Olympics, we lose
• 35:01
  them immediately. Because now they got to Go.
• 35:03
  Oh, I really like track is like, wait, I gotta pay for it then.
• 35:07
  Go do that. Right?
• 35:09
  So we, we can't even gain new fans anymore.
• 35:13
  So, like it is now what it is. And when I'm watching spikeball
• 35:18
  on television, and I'm watching darts on television, and I'm
• 35:23
  watching, was the other thing, obviously, did.
• 35:26
  I mean, he'll there's a whole ass Lee Garnet of coral, right,
• 35:30
  quidditch, but it look, I used to be I used to be like like
• 35:37
  every track failing, this ridiculously Why is my sport on
• 35:40
  television? Listen, I'm a Potato.
• 35:41
  This is the simple rule. Simple reason, you can package,
• 35:44
  all of those things and 48 minutes.
• 35:48
  So you can make it an hour with commercials and less track is
• 35:51
  going to accept. That we have to create a
• 35:56
  48-minute power hour. We have to tighten these
• 35:59
  schedules, we have to give people willing to do that,
• 36:02
  right? Especially you can do it easier
• 36:03
  on the pro level. It's much harder to do that with
• 36:06
  with Collegiates because you got way more doubling, right?
• 36:12
  So, but, but it'll Prometheus, you could do with these so how
• 36:16
  to make a schedule like super tight.
• 36:18
  So, how hard would it be? And I'm probably going to set
• 36:23
  someone up. For life here.
• 36:25
  But how hard would it be to go find all the highlights?
• 36:31
  Of the weekend package up blasted out.
• 36:37
  Here's what happened at New Mexico.
• 36:38
  Here's what happened at Arkansas.
• 36:40
  Here's what happened. As soon as the show goes on
• 36:42
  ESPN. That's exactly what we're gonna
• 36:44
  do. We're gonna, we're gonna give
• 36:48
  them seriously. Will give him 90 Hot seconds.
• 36:50
  I mean, that's, I mean that you have to build a one-hour TV show
• 36:55
  on the highlights. That's what I'm saying.
• 36:58
  Yeah, easily. So I mean it's something that's
• 37:05
  I don't think has even been broached.
• 37:08
  I don't think that you know I mean obviously would be a bit
• 37:12
  painstaking to to go out and grab or find your top 10, you
• 37:16
  know of the week, right? Well it's not even that right?
• 37:19
  It's like okay so I have to pay flowtraq for their content of
• 37:22
  the New Mexico. May even run a space for their
• 37:26
  content up from this me. Yeah.
• 37:28
  That's the problem with it, right?
• 37:30
  Yes. But be real.
• 37:32
  Those companies aren't for the greater good of all content for
• 37:37
  free. Yes that but that is the most
• 37:39
  efficient way to do it. You package it up.
• 37:43
  Track his back. Yeah and here we go. 60 Minutes
• 37:48
  you get all the races every eighth 2023.
• 37:52
  Okay? Comes on on Sundays edited.
• 38:00
  Yeah. I mean, I'm all for it.
• 38:02
  I'm that would be pretty awesome stuff.
• 38:09
  Oh, you guys so I guess we fly mean I guess our official stance
• 38:17
  is. It's definitely not good.
• 38:21
  Yeah, it probably is somewhat bad.
• 38:27
  But until the hierarchy and professionality of the sport
• 38:31
  change, probably as good as we can expect.
• 38:36
  Currently we have to accept that track is actually being put out
• 38:42
  there and how it's being put out there isn't the best medium but
• 38:49
  we'll take it. That's all right, I think I
• 38:53
  think that when it is out there we need to have more support by
• 38:56
  our eyes. Eyes and I'll be like, it's not
• 38:57
  even the races we want to watch or it's not even like we have to
• 39:00
  watch it, right? And I kind of giggle inside
• 39:03
  because I am, I am this person, but it's not for the same
• 39:06
  reasons. I don't have a runner space
• 39:09
  account. I don't watch any of those
• 39:12
  pay-per-views. Not because I'm like, oh my God,
• 39:14
  I can't believe it's 1999 a month or whatever it is.
• 39:17
  I don't even know what it is. It's mainly because I'm never
• 39:20
  home and I can never watch it. So I don't perversely.
• 39:24
  Just throw that out there. I like, I don't even have any
• 39:26
  Other subscriptions like Hulu and stuff like that.
• 39:29
  But We can't be like, well, I'm not paying for that.
• 39:33
  I should get it for free as well.
• 39:36
  Mmm, right that's just. What is that biting?
• 39:39
  Your know? Whatever that saying is cutting
• 39:42
  off your nose to spite your face.
• 39:44
  Yes, there you go. You do have to pay for it
• 39:48
  because then it shows interest and then that grows that way you
• 39:51
  know like make the sacrifice and and then it will grow as well.
• 39:55
  You can't be well, I'm not going to pay for it.
• 39:58
  They should just show it to me you know what unfortunately A
• 40:02
  new helped athlete. New pentathlete, this weekend.
• 40:05
  She, she and her family had paid for subscription for the month,
• 40:09
  so that one she could see her pent to her family.
• 40:13
  Could watch her compete. And they found out the brutal
• 40:16
  reality. Nothing get started before the
• 40:19
  middle get started. And so, I was like, well, write
• 40:24
  a write an email. That's where we find it.
• 40:28
  I mean, they usually they have in the past and she's like a
• 40:30
  coach, like a whole track meet went on.
• 40:33
  And I'm like, yeah. Well honey, welcome to track and
• 40:37
  field. So that was three, very
• 40:40
  long-winded summations in the honour of Sir lucious.
• 40:45
  I will just say we will sum it up as it is what it is.
• 40:52
  All right, all right, can't take it.
• 40:55
  I'll shut it. So there are some recent News.
• 41:02
  There have been six Russians who have been improved but under
• 41:06
  rule three point two that they'll be eligible to compete
• 41:11
  even though Russia remains ineligible what are your
• 41:16
  thoughts? Go right ahead.
• 41:25
  Can I just say succinctly, two completely different things?
• 41:30
  One, I'm so over Russia. So thirsty.
• 41:40
  And by extension what I mean. Listen.
• 41:48
  If they haven't done enough to be banned for life, then just
• 41:50
  let him run. Cuz this is stupid at this
• 41:53
  point, they didn't systematically cheated, the
• 41:58
  government funded, and co-signed the cheating.
• 42:02
  You all know they did it and now they're invading countries on a
• 42:06
  whim. So, just say you don't care
• 42:10
  about none of that. Just let him run at this point
• 42:12
  because this is some bullshit. Wait, so because I looked up the
• 42:17
  rule because I'm nervous, I don't care what the rules, that
• 42:20
  are very interesting because who got what, what, what a grouping
• 42:26
  got approved. Because this is the rule and
• 42:28
  athlete shall be eligible to compete in age.
• 42:31
  Group competition under these rules.
• 42:33
  If they are within the age, range specified and the relevant
• 42:37
  age group classification. So, is this a u-20?
• 42:41
  U18 type situation? No, no no, not at all.
• 42:45
  And here's what's crazy, right? I didn't send you guys all of
• 42:49
  the the article. If you do a deeper dive, this is
• 42:53
  the third batch of athletes that has been approved.
• 42:58
  That list is actually up to like 65 people.
• 43:04
  And at the end of the day, like look man.
• 43:10
  It's unfortunate, if you happen to be a clean Russian athlete.
• 43:18
  I get it, but the unfortunate part is You have to pay for the
• 43:25
  sins of your country. How about the 1980 US Olympic
• 43:31
  team? How about all of the Eastern
• 43:36
  Bloc 1984 us? I mean, 1984 Eastern Bloc
• 43:40
  Olympic teams, right? They had a whole Olympics taken
• 43:43
  from them because of political views and and and wars and
• 43:48
  things of this nature, right? Okay, so why is this any
• 43:51
  different and then when you add to the fact that it's like, how
• 43:55
  you go to war when your whole country's Athletic program is
• 43:59
  already under the microscope for doping.
• 44:03
  Yeah, right so like Like at the end of the day like I feel no
• 44:06
  remorse for the athletes, I do feel bad for them.
• 44:09
  I feel some empathy but at the end of the day, like none of
• 44:11
  them should be running under any flag anywhere.
• 44:16
  They shouldn't displace one human being from a world
• 44:19
  championship or an Olympics, or anything of that nature or
• 44:23
  european championships, and they should not be allowed to compete
• 44:26
  period. End of story.
• 44:29
  So this, this whole debacle and everything, is unfolding is a
• 44:36
  situation where the ioc is thinking about one thing and
• 44:42
  that is dollars, you're thinking about whether it's out in the
• 44:49
  open, they're thinking about Russian dollars, they're
• 44:54
  thinking about keeping that gravy train going.
• 44:58
  So you have that going on. While the war on Ukraine is
• 45:04
  going on, you have the mayor of Paris who's already gone on the
• 45:08
  record to say, there is no plans for a Russian or Belarusian
• 45:14
  delegation at the 2024 Olympics, right?
• 45:19
  And the happy medium is basically.
• 45:23
  Well, I'll see you saying, well, as long as you denounce, it You
• 45:29
  know, and say that you are not for the war, right, which
• 45:34
  anybody can say that, right? So you've got the drug scandal,
• 45:42
  you've got the political Wars and then you've got dollars.
• 45:47
  Who do you think is going to win that war?
• 45:49
  Who's on anything? Who's going to win that battle?
• 45:52
  If the ioc is sitting there, going my goodness.
• 45:55
  We've got some major major sponsors oil.
• 45:58
  Open. He's whatever that are going to
• 46:00
  be fun at funneling money to us, right?
• 46:06
  Yeah, I mean this, this is I don't see any way that this
• 46:11
  doesn't happen. There will be some Russian
• 46:14
  representation at the Olympic Games.
• 46:17
  It's so I'll ask the 10 million dollar question because at this
• 46:20
  point, I'm everybody on this panel has been to at least a
• 46:22
  world championships. And so you understand that that
• 46:25
  the housing for athletes is all done in a village, right?
• 46:27
  Okay. So I know I'm not the only one
• 46:30
  that knows that that, that house you had building is Russia,
• 46:36
  Ukraine Belarus. Is that part of the, it's not
• 46:40
  part of the world conflicts, that all of them are in the same
• 46:43
  place, right? Where you going to put the
• 46:46
  Russian delegation and the Belarusian delegates wouldn't
• 46:49
  stop there. The entire Europe Europe.
• 46:55
  Is against Russia right now like Europe and Belarus and meet you
• 47:00
  mean Russia and Belarus Russia. So where are you going to put
• 47:05
  them? They can't stay in Paris.
• 47:10
  I mean, I don't know. No.
• 47:19
  So like I just I don't even get it.
• 47:21
  Like how was it that Seb Coe can can run a staunch line about how
• 47:26
  we need to streamline meats and this that and the third and cut
• 47:28
  out the triple jump. And and we're trying to we're
• 47:31
  trying to shut down six of six attempts down to four down two.
• 47:35
  Three down to two and a half with 32 seconds of rest in
• 47:37
  between. But you can't figure out that
• 47:41
  what Ray Charles can see that there should be no Russian and
• 47:45
  no Belarusian athletes at any ioc.
• 47:49
  Eeyore World Athletics sponsored events and hey, they're not
• 47:52
  Russian and they're not Belarusian their independence.
• 47:55
  Their independence means I have their own flag,
• 48:08
  don't have this one random little spot that has its own
• 48:12
  rules. Like, nah, we ain't doing that.
• 48:15
  They're all from Monaco now, oh my God.
• 48:18
  Nah man in reading the article, even though World Athletics has
• 48:23
  given them, the green light Diamond league is still upheld
• 48:27
  their suspension. They are not invited or allowed
• 48:30
  to be in any of the diamond league needs you.
• 48:37
  There's just doesn't matter, 73 athletes who have been
• 48:42
  authorized neutral athletes assigned.
• 48:46
  See. Nothing, nothing.
• 49:26
  We got nothing. It's going to happen if he's
• 49:30
  going to make the non decision and it's gonna happen.
• 49:34
  But it shouldn't. Crazy, crazy.
• 49:39
  Crazy very interesting article. I just read it though.
• 49:45
  But with that being said, even more interesting, is the
• 49:48
  governor sitting into the seat of would rather.
• 49:52
  Oh no, oh no, no, no, no, you forgot you forgot the best topic
• 49:57
  we got, You forgot the basketball topic.
• 50:15
  I gave it, I gave it a doing. What others have done, is to
• 50:26
  casually disrespecting. What we witnessed last night,
• 50:31
  please Clyde, take the flow. No no no, no, I'll go first
• 50:35
  exactly. I'm gonna say this, I'm a huge
• 50:41
  fan of basketball. I am a huge fan of LeBron.
• 50:47
  I am a huge fan of MJ. I'm a huge fan of of the stars
• 50:51
  in general. the coolest thing that happened last night was
• 50:58
  that I actually got to watch what happened on the court
• 51:03
  sitting on the couch with my oldest son and He and I don't
• 51:09
  agree on. I don't think anything that
• 51:13
  pertains to basketball, like most people around us, they like
• 51:16
  to now, too. Soon as he and I start talking
• 51:19
  because it's always an argument about basketball, but that and
• 51:23
  it's in and of itself just to capture the moment together was
• 51:30
  cool. I thought the moment was cool.
• 51:34
  I thought the best part of what happened last night was the
• 51:37
  halftime. Sit down with with Braun and his
• 51:40
  two kids and he was like, I need 16, think I should go get it and
• 51:45
  they were like yeah, absolutely. It's like 28-point quarter like
• 51:49
  I thought that was really really cool.
• 51:53
  I thought Braun finishing the his very, very very, very good
• 51:58
  speech with the F-bomb was spectacular.
• 52:03
  Thank you live TV for that. And then I saw that then I think
• 52:10
  the only part of it that just pissed me off was like the just
• 52:15
  so ridiculously unnecessary immediate.
• 52:20
  What is that thing? That solution says comparison is
• 52:25
  the It's likes comparison. No, no.
• 52:30
  It's like comparison is like the it's like the killer of joy as
• 52:35
  much but whatever the heck did the actual expression is?
• 52:38
  I can't think of it right now. We couldn't even like half 33
• 52:42
  seconds of the moment before it like this just holistically
• 52:48
  unnecessary goat conversation debate fight, whatever had to
• 52:54
  had to insu and I'm just like why Why what happened?
• 53:01
  Last night was amazing because I I think every single person who
• 53:09
  likes basketball will agree that LeBron James is a past first
• 53:13
  guy. And he's managed to stay healthy
• 53:19
  and play basketball for 20 years at a really high level and has
• 53:26
  compiled more points than anybody has ever had.
• 53:29
  He's changed his game and evolved his game as the game has
• 53:32
  changed, has managed to stay pretty much out of any,
• 53:38
  off-the-court, drama, or any of that nonsense.
• 53:41
  And he's now on a whole nother Mission, which is Is.
• 53:47
  Ball at this same level until his son is in the league and to
• 53:55
  play wherever, whatever team takes his son is gonna get him
• 54:00
  and they're going to play together.
• 54:02
  And honestly, folks, for all of the quote-unquote wrong reasons
• 54:06
  that professional athletes. Do things like, that's what I
• 54:10
  was most moved by last night. Was that like we're gonna work?
• 54:16
  World where people all they are all they talk about is like
• 54:19
  black men and they're not fathers and I mean, he'll LeBron
• 54:21
  de wouldn't have a father figure in his life, right?
• 54:24
  But we hear all those things and here is LeBron being dad first.
• 54:30
  And I thought that part. Was amazing.
• 54:34
  And that was the story to talk about.
• 54:37
  Not this mythical goat conversation against to about
• 54:39
  two people who can't play against each other.
• 54:41
  I cannot make any damn sense. Yeah, I basically comes down to
• 54:49
  this. For those that say that LeBron
• 54:54
  did not win enough championships.
• 54:58
  One person does not win the championship I mean let's just
• 55:04
  call it what it is, we can compare, you know, the greatest,
• 55:09
  six, rings, Seven, Rings, all of that stuff, right?
• 55:13
  But this is a record that nobody in our lifetime ever thought
• 55:20
  will be broken. I mean, to stay to come into the
• 55:25
  league when he did. And to break the record for
• 55:31
  years was a 4 years earlier. No, no, no.
• 55:36
  It's a hundred and something game 150.
• 55:39
  It's to basically two seasons since 157 games.
• 55:43
  But and to be the kind of player that he is, I mean, it's
• 55:50
  unbelievable. You cannot you have to pay
• 55:54
  homage and you have to give the man respect because that mean
• 56:00
  that that I was on pins and needles the entire game, every
• 56:06
  time he got the ball and you felt the crowd and you could
• 56:09
  hear the crowd, just start to rise up and any scores.
• 56:13
  And they crescendo And then every time he comes down the
• 56:17
  court, I mean it was pretty fascinating, pretty fascinating
• 56:21
  to watch and then to have my namesake and hand him handed to
• 56:30
  him to Lakers. Come on, man.
• 56:33
  I mean it's just this is the kind of stuff that scripted,
• 56:37
  you'd almost feel scripted you know, for him to do that and to
• 56:42
  have that moment and to have the captain After him beautiful
• 56:46
  stuff, I enjoyed it. I don't care whether you're a
• 56:50
  LeBron fan or not. You have to appreciate what that
• 56:54
  man did last night. Is there anybody on this planet
• 56:56
  with with as much classes Kareem Abdul-Jabbar oh man.
• 57:00
  I mean he said an apology is not an apology may be an
• 57:03
  acknowledgment to Shaq at the end, right?
• 57:05
  As you did a selfless and why does he want to make sure that
• 57:11
  was because he had already done that.
• 57:14
  He had already done. That already privately.
• 57:18
  He's so full of class to like, read has all the reasons on the
• 57:22
  planet. Kareem has all the reasons on
• 57:25
  the planet to be angry. Mmm, but, but sir.
• 57:31
  And again, I have been on record for years saying, no, no, no.
• 57:38
  This argument is being done wrong.
• 57:40
  It's actually Kareem as the goat that LeBron is chasing.
• 57:45
  You know, I have the utmost respect for Kareem.
• 57:48
  Sure. I really understand the context
• 57:51
  of why he is and has been angry and disrespected.
• 57:58
  He's been very disrespected by the sport absolutely has but
• 58:03
  let's not but but I'm also not going to sit here and just gush
• 58:07
  about how classy is because let's be clear.
• 58:11
  He been a little disrespectful to LeBron.
• 58:15
  And two others in the lead-up to this.
• 58:17
  Now, I was happy to see him, come around and do it the right
• 58:21
  way and be the epitome of class last night.
• 58:25
  Hmm, But he has a whole bunch of comments out there in the media,
• 58:29
  in the last couple years. Leading up to this, that you
• 58:31
  knew he was a little salty about.
• 58:33
  Absolutely. Yeah.
• 58:35
  You know. And so I digress.
• 58:38
  I'm a fan. I loved that whole moment and he
• 58:42
  broke to when he broke the record will refuse to go.
• 58:45
  Yes, so let's just start there. How can I get that?
• 58:49
  And so, I appreciate him taking the high road and doing what was
• 58:53
  right. I thought the NBA shutting down
• 58:56
  the game and really taking time for that moment.
• 59:00
  Yes, though. Because here's the thing that
• 59:02
  that's actually irritated me on this issue for a long time
• 59:07
  because I like 95% of anybody who knows anything about
• 59:12
  basketball in his honest you never thought that record was
• 59:15
  Getting broke. Nobody.
• 59:16
  Nobody, nobody do. And so, not once not once when
• 59:21
  Michael had to take his little two year baseball Hiatus, I
• 59:25
  never thought anybody else had a shot.
• 59:27
  I'll be the first person to admit to that.
• 59:29
  And so, my thing is this like, in basketball, if we're being
• 59:34
  honest, like baseball is the sport where the record book is
• 59:37
  everything, right? There's so many high-class High
• 59:42
  importance. Records basketball isn't like
• 59:44
  that. Hello, football really isn't
• 59:46
  like that. The only sacred record in
• 59:48
  basketball is this one? And it took 40 years.
• 59:54
  Yeah. Okay, 40 years years.
• 59:59
  So for me last night, they got it right, but the lead-up to
• 1:00:04
  this everybody's been getting wrong.
• 1:00:07
  It hasn't gotten nearly the attention that it deserves.
• 1:00:11
  And for my money it's because of who is actually breaking that
• 1:00:17
  record for whatever reason LeBron is a very Rising athlete.
• 1:00:22
  I don't get why he's been. Um, he's done nothing, you know
• 1:00:27
  in any real way for that to be the case.
• 1:00:30
  But, you know, there's a lot of people ESPN and Etc that have
• 1:00:35
  attached their entire careers and made their entire careers
• 1:00:39
  off of elevating and promoting Michael Jordan.
• 1:00:44
  Because at one point he saved the sport.
• 1:00:48
  I get that. But look, man at some point, you
• 1:00:52
  just gotta recognize what it is. And, you know, I think of all
• 1:00:57
  this week, I think j.j. Redick had the best sentiments
• 1:01:00
  on this ESPN First Take specifically had a segment is
• 1:01:05
  LeBron and all-time great score which is such an offensive
• 1:01:09
  question. It's ridiculously offensive
• 1:01:12
  question and JJ. No, it's an offensive question.
• 1:01:16
  Not an offensive question, it might not be the brightest
• 1:01:18
  question. It's not offensive.
• 1:01:20
  As o.j. on some podcast that he's affiliated with said, said
• 1:01:24
  it bluntly is like it's a ridiculous question.
• 1:01:27
  Not only, is he an all-time great score?
• 1:01:29
  He's the all-time greatest scorer.
• 1:01:33
  Yes, he's basically third by average, you know, we're talking
• 1:01:39
  like .0 whatever, he's third by average.
• 1:01:44
  And he just took out the all-time scoring King and
• 1:01:49
  something that I learned this week that I really didn't grasp.
• 1:01:52
  In the time, the playoffs have nothing to do with this record.
• 1:01:57
  This is regular season scoring. No, no yes, no shit, no is.
• 1:02:05
  Yes it is. No playoffs.
• 1:02:07
  Total is the total there is a separation there is okay.
• 1:02:12
  That the title is the Tony went out of their way to report that
• 1:02:15
  on three different networks. This week, this is the playoffs
• 1:02:18
  are not a part of that 38. You're not you're not.
• 1:02:22
  No, you're not. It's just not.
• 1:02:25
  And that is even more. Mind-blowing if you really think
• 1:02:28
  about it. So for this man to be in that
• 1:02:32
  Throne now officially and to be number four and assist and to be
• 1:02:38
  all the other things that he has been like people talk about
• 1:02:42
  giving your flowers on time. There ain't enough flowers, you
• 1:02:45
  could throw at that man and he ain't gonna be around forever
• 1:02:48
  and I just don't understand why we're at a place in this country
• 1:02:51
  where greatness is Has to take so many arrows.
• 1:02:56
  Tom Brady ain't been retired for a week and their segments on Fox
• 1:03:00
  and ESPN trying to discredit the idea that he's the go and not
• 1:03:04
  for Patrick homes. Okay?
• 1:03:07
  Like it's crazy. Oh no, that Mike Francis did
• 1:03:10
  that today, retire? Yes, it's watch that.
• 1:03:14
  It's so disrespectful. So, you know, I mean, the issue
• 1:03:19
  and I have this relatively heated debate this morning with
• 1:03:22
  my son about it, right? And I I think of all the sports,
• 1:03:26
  this is the one where the goat conversation should never
• 1:03:29
  happen, right? Because People play different
• 1:03:33
  positions and they and different things are required of them.
• 1:03:37
  And different things are asked of them, and you can't just at
• 1:03:41
  the end decide that we're going to compare apples.
• 1:03:43
  Oranges, pears, and plums and say hi.
• 1:03:45
  This is the best fruit, right? Like what?
• 1:03:48
  But, that's an excellent point. And here's the thing, none of
• 1:03:52
  the people in that conversation had the LeBron had to do more
• 1:03:56
  than any of them for their his team's any?
• 1:03:58
  Whoa, okay. So okay, so here's the okay.
• 1:04:02
  So it's like this and there's a we're not going to have this
• 1:04:03
  whole debate. You I think it's fun, Barbershop
• 1:04:06
  talk for like who you think is the best and why if you have a
• 1:04:09
  real argument for it, I like to hear it.
• 1:04:11
  That's all there is to it, but I'll just say, like this.
• 1:04:14
  Look Wilt Chamberlain's, the only human being to ever lead
• 1:04:16
  the league in rebounds assists and score.
• 1:04:21
  Right? So it's like, okay, well, so
• 1:04:24
  he's done something that nobody's ever going to do.
• 1:04:26
  Like I get it but but but that doesn't make him.
• 1:04:28
  It doesn't make him the greatest either.
• 1:04:29
  And so like that's my whole point about Basketball and sis.
• 1:04:33
  And especially with Statistics, right?
• 1:04:35
  Like if we're doing, if we're going to compare Apple to an
• 1:04:41
  apple, right? If if the way you could come
• 1:04:45
  into the league, was the same. M de los 3. 2,000 plus Point
• 1:04:55
  Years playing college basketball, right?
• 1:04:59
  And then no ever how you slice it, whether it's his fault or
• 1:05:03
  somebody else's, another, almost two years playing baseball, I
• 1:05:09
  don't care about the statistics like to me who the greatest
• 1:05:12
  player is, is going to be based on what this right here, like, I
• 1:05:16
  saw him play. What do I think?
• 1:05:18
  And I'll tell you if somebody asked me like okay You have to
• 1:05:23
  have somebody play basketball for your life.
• 1:05:28
  They have to win or you die. The first question I'm asking,
• 1:05:31
  is, are we playing one-on-one or we playing five-on-five?
• 1:05:34
  Like, I need to know the rules. I need to know the era, right?
• 1:05:38
  And the fact that those qualifiers have to come out
• 1:05:40
  there because they will change your answer.
• 1:05:42
  Should just tell you, like, let's just appreciate the people
• 1:05:45
  who are the greatest when they grow when they're great.
• 1:05:48
  Like, why do we always have to Sully somebody else's greatness
• 1:05:50
  to push somebody else up top? I It II don't enjoy that either.
• 1:05:57
  I just I don't like unhinged conversations that are attached
• 1:06:02
  from reality. Like the narrative literally
• 1:06:06
  built on ESPN for 15 years by Skip Bayless.
• 1:06:10
  That LeBron isn't clutch really has the best clutch numbers ever
• 1:06:16
  in the playoffs and it's not actually close.
• 1:06:19
  Yeah. But again, statistics can tell
• 1:06:21
  you anything. Thing, you want them to tell
• 1:06:23
  you, right? Like at the end of the day,
• 1:06:27
  okay, two things can be true. You can't say that.
• 1:06:32
  You can't say, with all with all definition, LeBron has the
• 1:06:35
  greatest clutch numbers and then and then and then not have to
• 1:06:38
  explain how it can be 4 and 6 in and play and championships.
• 1:06:43
  This like when the governor is getting that, I don't do this
• 1:06:46
  Governor, it's a team game. Yes, it is a team game but at
• 1:06:50
  the end of the day like this is my We pick and choose when we
• 1:06:54
  want things to be the way they are.
• 1:06:56
  It is subjective, it's subjective.
• 1:06:58
  And that's why I hate it because it look, I just want to walk
• 1:07:03
  around with my chest out, to be able to say this, because I saw
• 1:07:07
  this last night and I thought it was amazing.
• 1:07:09
  The top 10 scores in NBA history.
• 1:07:10
  I've seen nine of them play live.
• 1:07:13
  The only one I didn't see play Live is Wilt Chamberlain so I
• 1:07:15
  want to be good with that, right?
• 1:07:19
  I don't give a shit, whether I think mine is better or MJ's
• 1:07:22
  better because I'm weak to me. It's irrelevant if I'm playing a
• 1:07:25
  game from my life. They're both on the floor
• 1:07:27
  because they don't play the same position.
• 1:07:30
  Right. So like that's what I'm talking
• 1:07:32
  about. Like I'm like I'm here for
• 1:07:34
  debates about the greatest teams ever but the greatest player
• 1:07:38
  ever in basketball man. That's that is literally
• 1:07:41
  impossible to have a real conversation about because it
• 1:07:45
  depends on all of the rules possible to set up what
• 1:07:49
  parameters we are going to give the answer.
• 1:07:52
  And if I got to put in all of that nonsense to come up with a
• 1:07:55
  real answer, I would rather just enjoy what I watch.
• 1:08:00
  And it's just me. Big-league fact, fun fact, the
• 1:08:05
  gentleman who was quote unquote Garden because it's by no means
• 1:08:08
  was he guarding. LeBron was a horned frog.
• 1:08:19
  Hey, that dude is famous now. Random fact, so Governor are you
• 1:08:35
  ready? Now, sir now that Lamar warmed
• 1:08:38
  up that seat for you. Yes, I'm ready.
• 1:08:42
  All right, would you rather now that you've had this experience
• 1:08:47
  as you did? Would you rather live on the
• 1:08:49
  east coast or stay in test Texas?
• 1:08:55
  I have to ask it out loud. That's hilarious.
• 1:08:59
  I'll stay in Texas for your background.
• 1:09:06
  Would you rather keep watching the San Antonio Skyline or have
• 1:09:11
  the New York City skyline whoo-wee?
• 1:09:14
  Yeah, there's no comparison man. Look, I have a brand new
• 1:09:26
  appreciation of the New York skyline.
• 1:09:30
  Yeah. There's there's no there's no
• 1:09:33
  competition whatsoever. All right, or your mobile device
• 1:09:38
  so call your cell phone charger. Do you prefer a case for it or a
• 1:09:43
  battery pack? Microphone charging tax on your
• 1:09:48
  called, I prefer the charging pad.
• 1:09:52
  Got it in your Heyday if you prefer and sorry I want to say
• 1:09:59
  is I'm just gonna ask it elevator, Runway or flat Runway.
• 1:10:04
  Because my absolutely hated elevated runways.
• 1:10:08
  I've been having this conversation with my athletes
• 1:10:13
  like for the last two. Well, going to New Mexico and
• 1:10:16
  going to New York. My kids have had so many issues
• 1:10:22
  with consistency On The Run. We don't train on it.
• 1:10:28
  And I've made the point to let him know.
• 1:10:32
  My indoor PB is 8 meters, 22, my outdoor PB is 8, metre, sixty
• 1:10:38
  three. What else do you need to know?
• 1:10:41
  Like unless you train on that thing unless you're used to the
• 1:10:45
  timing? You know?
• 1:10:47
  And all of that. Yes, it you better be a quick
• 1:10:50
  study otherwise you're going to go home.
• 1:10:53
  Very unhappy unless you catch up unless you're lucky.
• 1:10:57
  Yeah. Peanut or peanut butter M&M's.
• 1:11:05
  Or peanut butter. The peanut butter.
• 1:11:11
  Peanut I like the peanut Eminem's.
• 1:11:14
  Got it. Moving on.
• 1:11:15
  Beautiful right there. Yes, yes, yes.
• 1:11:19
  Yes. Driver side or the door side of
• 1:11:21
  the bus. Second row.
• 1:11:30
  Opposite side of the bus driver. Got, would you rather land in
• 1:11:38
  wet sand or Dusty stand? Both are bad.
• 1:11:45
  That's because when it's dry you're probably going to lose
• 1:11:53
  anywhere between 5 and 10 centimeters.
• 1:11:57
  Yep guaranteed fucking just on the shift.
• 1:12:00
  Yes. All right.
• 1:12:02
  Gentlemen, floor is yours. This is not at all.
• 1:12:09
  The would you rather? But since I've been through
• 1:12:12
  this, what advice would you give to coaches?
• 1:12:19
  Aspiring to take their teams to New York City for an indoor meet
• 1:12:25
  particularly as it pertains to Subway travel.
• 1:12:30
  So a couple of things be prepared to make a run to what
• 1:12:41
  is it is, it was the major you have to eat, you have to find a
• 1:12:47
  place that sells tickets, the, but that metrocards in milk and
• 1:12:53
  station if you, yes, Penn Station, otherwise you better
• 1:12:59
  have a ton of cash on you, because the Do card.
• 1:13:05
  Machines will only accept to credit card, swipes a date.
• 1:13:11
  And they will not allow any more.
• 1:13:15
  So we had 40 plus people in our party and we literally had to
• 1:13:22
  stand there. And so after we were done with
• 1:13:26
  the cash, we're getting these dollar coins having to plug them
• 1:13:30
  in to try and get all the Metro cards.
• 1:13:34
  The other thing is if you're there for 3 days or you know,
• 1:13:39
  then you might as well get the week, passed the unlimited pass,
• 1:13:44
  That is its massive. It is huge for the kids.
• 1:13:48
  The ones that are that one of venture out and see things.
• 1:13:51
  I mean the pictures that came back from our from our Squad II.
• 1:13:57
  Don't know how they competed the way they did because they must
• 1:14:00
  have done a ton of walking. It was they took They took full
• 1:14:06
  advantage of that trip, and I know that it's something that
• 1:14:11
  they won't forget anytime soon. Yeah, I mean no doubt as a
• 1:14:18
  native New Yorker, I will say this much about New York, no
• 1:14:21
  matter what they do to it. It will always be the best place
• 1:14:24
  on this planet to visit. Unbelievable once so and here's
• 1:14:30
  another thing and this is this is kind of the state rate.
• 1:14:36
  Only applies you can only get two.
• 1:14:40
  So if you like to say you you're you you get the state rate for
• 1:14:44
  the hotel, Right. Well, you can only get two and
• 1:14:49
  let's say you bought you have seven rooms.
• 1:14:51
  You can only get two rooms at the state rate.
• 1:14:56
  Yeah. So I'm not going to say any more
• 1:14:59
  about it oh yeah but yeah and the state rate is very nice
• 1:15:10
  compared to what it really is. Oh yeah.
• 1:15:15
  Funny. Okay, so I'm going to ask semi
• 1:15:18
  specific two-part question. You cannot use Olympics World
• 1:15:24
  Championships of any kind indoor or out or ncaa's indoors or out,
• 1:15:28
  right? So all those meats are out What
• 1:15:31
  is your favorite meat to compete at?
• 1:15:34
  And what is your favorite meat to coach at?
• 1:15:40
  Favorite me to compete at is Zurich.
• 1:15:46
  Yeah. I mean, what else can you say?
• 1:15:51
  I mean, it's just You can say that they don't have the
• 1:15:55
  decathlon. That's what you could say.
• 1:16:04
  Favorite meat. Wow.
• 1:16:15
  Bishop's out of it, right? Oui.
• 1:16:28
  Is it? Oh, yes.
• 1:16:34
  Interesting Marion. He was things almost psychotic.
• 1:16:39
  Well, it's yeah. I guess you could say that those
• 1:16:46
  damn stairs. Yeah.
• 1:16:50
  And and the end. The multiple venues.
• 1:16:53
  Yeah, I just I don't know. I've always 7 a.m. for by one.
• 1:16:59
  I've always enjoyed it. It's just it's just different
• 1:17:03
  man. Just different that it is.
• 1:17:05
  It is different. Oh, it's funny.
• 1:17:07
  We were talking about Texas videos today.
• 1:17:10
  I remember the the five-minute window where I literally passed
• 1:17:13
  out on top of our training tables because I was so hot, so
• 1:17:16
  tired. And so done for the read, the
• 1:17:19
  high school braces were going on and I was like, I see five
• 1:17:21
  minutes. All right, don't worry about me.
• 1:17:35
  Mr. Governor now that you've done both, which one is more
• 1:17:39
  difficult traveling with a whole team of kids in New York City or
• 1:17:44
  trying to get into a world champion of shit, World,
• 1:17:46
  Championships or Olympics, without your credential so 50/50
• 1:17:58
  shot. They're having no question
• 1:18:01
  having done both and having I it's actually it's actually
• 1:18:08
  easier to get into a world championships without a
• 1:18:11
  credential. I have far too many people that
• 1:18:16
  I can call on to help a brother out in the time.
• 1:18:21
  Yes. No one to call in the subway
• 1:18:24
  with no, no, no. No, there's no one to call.
• 1:18:30
  There's no one to help you. There's no one who cares?
• 1:18:33
  No, not at all. No.
• 1:18:35
  The fact that you're asking for help identifies, you as someone
• 1:18:39
  not from New York, who are a potential victim that point the
• 1:18:46
  things we saw in the sun, it was clearly not, you know,
• 1:18:51
  extinction level event stuff going on, but menu sitting there
• 1:18:55
  and you're looking around and you're like, Like, wow, this
• 1:18:58
  this is the entire spectrum of the human race.
• 1:19:03
  So I just want you to imagine this for you.
• 1:19:07
  I was a latchkey kid in New York City and I only did my mother's
• 1:19:11
  apartment around my neck. When I was eight years old,
• 1:19:13
  traveling through New York City by myself, what different
• 1:19:18
  solutely different times different times.
• 1:19:21
  When absolutely All right, well, wrapping up.
• 1:19:26
  Would you rather Harpy props Mine is, mine is not emotional.
• 1:19:33
  So I'm a and jump in a very interesting week in track and
• 1:19:39
  field very interesting week in the NBA, but the other very,
• 1:19:44
  very important and totally awesome thing that went on this
• 1:19:48
  week in case you missed, it was the State of the Union by Big
• 1:19:52
  Joe be that was a masterclass litical.
• 1:20:00
  Just. Oh, my God, last it was petty.
• 1:20:05
  It was awesome. Yeah, in there serving notice,
• 1:20:09
  he had them people in their feelings upset, contradict
• 1:20:13
  themselves. Listen, you can say whatever you
• 1:20:16
  want, man. Hey, Jody knows what he's doing
• 1:20:20
  and he is doing a phenomenal job and that was an epic piece of
• 1:20:24
  Television to sit there and watch.
• 1:20:26
  I thoroughly enjoyed it. So Props to Big Joe be.
• 1:20:32
  I appreciated it early. Yeah, get it.
• 1:20:39
  No, go ahead. No, you go ahead.
• 1:20:42
  Lamar, go ahead. My heart.
• 1:20:44
  Be props. Go out to somebody who I'm 100%
• 1:20:46
  sure does not watch the show. But you say that every week,
• 1:20:51
  when you say you need new friends, you say that like every
• 1:20:55
  week. Well, okay.
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  When I tell you who my heartbeat props, go to you, you'll
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  understand this person just one their 31st first Grammy and is
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  now the most decorated musical artist in the history of music
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  and so am I upset the Beyonce? Doesn't watch our show?
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  Yes. A little bit you're not going to
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  shame me for not being friends when Beyonce but look you guys
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  all know me really well and the two things probably besides my
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  family that mean anything to me are sports and music.
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  And you know, the Grammys again, this doesn't mean that she's
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  necessarily the greatest artist to ever.
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  So let's not do that. That's right, let's not do that.
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  But at the end of the day, 31 Grammys.
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  Is. Insane.
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  And and she's not done yet, she has won Grammys as an artist.
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  She's won Grammys as a songwriter.
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  Just run. One Grammys as a producer.
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  She's won Grammys for singles. She's won Grammys for albums.
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  Funny funny though she's 131 Grammys has never won album of
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  the year the most coveted. Right was just push, just speaks
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  to what I was talking about about, you know, the politics of
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  things and how it just seems so easy for us to get it to get it,
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  right? But somehow we still managed to
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  get it wrong a lot. But I want the, I want the track
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  and field in the world. To know that we do, do other
• 1:22:46
  things besides just watch track and somehow I managed to see the
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  Beyonce at 131 Grammys. And I thought that was
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  Ridiculous. Yeah, I I'm actually on that
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  same, I'm on that same track that you are and anyone that saw
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  her acceptance speech. Like you really you couldn't not
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  be moved by Liz, owes acceptance speech, that was pretty
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  phenomenal. And you I mean any any number of
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  thoughts go through your head when when someone Clearly, you
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  know, in the music genre that she's in and the world of
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  entertainment being plus-sized and all of that for her to do
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  what she's done. You can't help but appreciated
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  that. So big heartbeat props, go out
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  to lizzo continued success and you know can't wait to see what
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  she does. Next My Harpy props, go out to
• 1:24:02
  will yank. Today is transparent.
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  Transplant day through your anniversary three years ago, he
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  had a transplant that actually saved his life after and during
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  chemo and radiation, and having some more transplants after
• 1:24:16
  that. But this was the big one.
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  So yeah, whoo, I'll send you a clip love, you will talk to you
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  later sometime but gentlemen, We've done yet another episode
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  of FF buttocks, LLC. So We'll meet each other again.
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  Have a great weekend, travel, safe, and everyone.
• 1:24:43
  Go fast. Jump, far.
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  Jump I throw far by now. Turn left turn, left, all the
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  way. Both last long best to fill this
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  cell this session and if you don't check yourself and that's
• 1:25:43
  wrong just trying to give you the real bitch ass for.
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  So why do you keep cutting us off to a small?
• 1:25:48
  We put it in slow mo but you fast for it letís see the task
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  force.