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25W: Who Am I? Name that Backup QB Game + Is 20% Tip Always Necessary? + The Cowboys and Patriots Floor & Ceiling with Jeff Howe + Tom Brady's Insane Broadcasting Salary · 25 Whistles with Bobby Bones (A Football Podcast)

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  Speaker 4: Podcast called 25 Whistles. Talking football, and they all wear
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  Speaker 4: All right, blow it.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so I was thinking about this Texas-Tennessee game,
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  Speaker 1: and what's interesting is, Peyton Manning obviously played at Tennessee,
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  Speaker 1: but his nephew plays at Texas, and he said he's
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  Speaker 1: rooting for Texas.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Because he said he roots for his family over his school.
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  Speaker 4: I get that, but man, your school loves you so much.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you love your family.
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  Speaker 6: Not even your kid, though.
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  Speaker 1: It's your nephew, though.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's not your kid.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, 100%. If it's your kid, you've got to
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  Speaker 4: go for your kid. But you're right. A nephew? Extended family.
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  Speaker 1: I think if Tulsa softball played Arkansas softball, I'd root
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  Speaker 1: for DJ in Tulsa.
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  Speaker 4: And he's not even blood related to you.
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  Speaker 1: He's my brother-in-law. Dang. I don't know how you guys
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  Speaker 1: felt about that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that'd be tough. I guess it depends how much
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  Speaker 6: you like them too, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're probably pretty close.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And the older I get, the more I realize that
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  Speaker 4: some of these players just didn't give a crap about
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  Speaker 4: where they played.
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  Speaker 1: I think Peyton Manning did though.
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  Speaker 4: Well, then go for your school.
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  Speaker 1: But again, it's the one time his family's playing Tennessee.
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  Speaker 4: And you know what? I never see him in the
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  Speaker 4: stands at Texas. It's not like he goes to support Arch.
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  Speaker 1: If he does, we don't know. He doesn't take his
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  Speaker 1: shine from him. He may go and he just may
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  Speaker 1: not tell anybody.
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  Speaker 4: He wears like a mustache and glasses.
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  Speaker 6: He's like his brother Eli in those commercials.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Arch doesn't talk in interviews anymore.
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  Speaker 6: He's not allowed to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's allowed, but he doesn't talk much anymore after
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  Speaker 1: this situation. Oh, I get what you're saying. He says, like,
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  Speaker 1: three words, because I'm not getting bit by that again.
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  Speaker 1: That sucks. Since the AI Holly Rose stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: That really sucks. Because he seemed like a likable guy,
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  Speaker 6: had a good personality, obviously, like what he said. He
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  Speaker 6: knew the internet was going to run with it, but
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  Speaker 6: now it's like, now I get nothing.
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  Speaker 4: He'll come back. He just needs a little time to breathe.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he will in college. I think he's
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  Speaker 1: shutting it down.
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  Speaker 4: Really?
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  Speaker 1: He'll have to do his press. He'll do it. He'll
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  Speaker 1: say the few words, and then he'll be done.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Dang.
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  Speaker 1: Learned a hard lesson. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Because it was, I mean, it was on him, right? Like,
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  Speaker 4: nobody asked him, hey, Arch, did you see the video?
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  Speaker 4: What did you think about it? He's the one that
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  Speaker 4: brought it up.
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  Speaker 1: I think they were talking about maybe the game and how,
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember.
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  Speaker 6: Somebody brought up, like, generic, have you seen any of
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  Speaker 6: the videos?
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  Speaker 5: Is that what it was?
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  Speaker 6: And then he was the one that said, yeah, you
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  Speaker 6: guys see the Holly Roe one?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, his interviews are very boring now. Not that
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  Speaker 1: I was tuning in to watch Arch's press briefings.
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  Speaker 4: Are they like Marshawn Lynch where he's just.
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  Speaker 1: Almost.
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  Speaker 4: No way. Yeah, almost.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Eddie, here's the game. How many backup quarterbacks can
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  Speaker 1: you name?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, gosh. None.
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  Speaker 1: With all the early injuries to quarterbacks, we've seen backups
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  Speaker 1: come in that we may have forgotten about. Eddie, who
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  Speaker 1: am I? Clue number one. I was drafted ahead of
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  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, am I getting one clue?
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  Speaker 1: No, I'll give you three clues, but you get more
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  Speaker 1: points if you get it after clue one.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I got you. Okay. Don't know yet.
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  Speaker 1: I was the number two overall pick in 2017 and
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  Speaker 1: spent my first four seasons with the Bears.
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  Speaker 4: Got it. Justin Fields.
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  Speaker 3: Nope.
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  Speaker 1: I am now the veteran backing up a second-year quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 1: What sucks for this guy is he was always the
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  Speaker 1: graphic they would show that was drafted ahead of Patrick Mahomes. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: It used to be Deshaun, too, but not anymore.
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  Speaker 4: And he got drafted by the Bears?
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  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Number two overall pick in 2017.
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  Speaker 4: Did you say the college he went to? You didn't
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  Speaker 4: say that.
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  Speaker 1: I did not.
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  Speaker 4: You know who it is, obviously.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So after Chicago, probably Buffalo?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I believe.
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  Speaker 1: Possibly Buffalo next. He's not in Buffalo now.
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  Speaker 4: Gosh, man. Who was that? I have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: He's the backup quarterback for the Titans.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, that guy. Mustard? Mayonnaise? No.
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  Speaker 1: Levis got cut.
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  Speaker 4: Levis.
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  Speaker 6: I think he might be on a practice squad somewhere,
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  Speaker 6: but he's not on the Titans anymore.
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  Speaker 4: He's the backup for the Cowboys?
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  Speaker 6: No, the Titans.
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  Speaker 1: This guy was the number two overall pick in 2017. Again,
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  Speaker 1: ahead of Mahomes and Deshaun Watson.
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  Speaker 4: Anything?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: Mitch Trubisky.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, dang. I do remember Mitch. Okay.
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  Speaker 7: No points. Zero.
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  Speaker 1: Number two. Who am I? My original team traded three
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  Speaker 1: first round picks to move up and get me.
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  Speaker 4: Nope.
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  Speaker 1: I was the number three overall pick in the 2021
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  Speaker 1: NFL draft. Nope. I am currently backing up a former
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  Speaker 1: Oregon Duck quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: Aha. Former Oregon Duck. Would that be Mariota?
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  Speaker 1: Mariota is... Is the backup.
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  Speaker 4: I know something. Is this the backup to the backup?
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 4: The only Oregon duck that I. Oh, Bo Nix. He's
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  Speaker 4: backing up Bo Nix. And that would be. No. No,
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  Speaker 4: it's not Bo Nix. Thanks for stopping me before I
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  Speaker 4: went too far. Oh, man. Jason Statham.
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  Speaker 1: This guy also played for the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 4: He did? Oh, Cooper Rush.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-mm. Number three overall pick, 2021 NFL draft. Not the controversy,
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  Speaker 1: but the thing was, it was COVID, so they really
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  Speaker 1: couldn't have the normal time to evaluate in person. Played
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  Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. I think the Cowboys traded a fourth-round
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  Speaker 1: pick for him. That seems right.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, so the Cowboys drafted him.
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  Speaker 5: Nope.
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  Speaker 1: The Cowboys traded a fourth-round pick for him.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, Trey Lance.
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  Speaker 1: Trey Lance. The Chargers.
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  Speaker 4: Dang, I forgot about Trey Lance. Dude, he was supposed
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  Speaker 4: to be really good.
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  Speaker 1: He's backing up Herbert.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, fourth round.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: And Herbert was an Oregon Duck?
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  Speaker 5: He was.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess he was.
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  Speaker 1: Eddie, who am I? Physically, I look like somebody created
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback in Madden and maxed out all the sliders.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a backup quarterback. Who am I?
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Clue number two. I'm 6'4, around 244 pounds, was drafted
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  Speaker 1: fourth overall in 2023. Okay, no. I went to the
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  Speaker 1: same school as Tim Tebow.
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  Speaker 4: You're Anthony Richardson.
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  Speaker 1: You're Anthony Richardson.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, boy.
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  Speaker 1: Finally got you one there. Good job, good job.
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  Speaker 4: I'm still trying to get one with one hint. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think it's going to happen, though.
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  Speaker 1: I would be surprised if you got one within two hints.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Who am I? Remember, they're all backups right now. I
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  Speaker 1: have 169 career NFL starts.
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  Speaker 4: Dang.
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  Speaker 1: So what does that say to you?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, this is a guy that was good at
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  Speaker 4: one point, and we all believed in him. So he's older.
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  Speaker 4: He's just an older guy. Next.
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  Speaker 1: I spent nine seasons as a starting quarterback for one franchise.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. And I can guess that doesn't mean it's over, right?
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  Speaker 5: Correct.
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  Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson. No, no, he's a starter. Okay, next one.
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  Speaker 1: They call me the Red Rifle. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Andy Dalton. He still plays?
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  Speaker 1: Do you know where he backs up?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I can only picture him in a Bengals jersey.
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  Speaker 1: Or the Panthers. He backed up Oh, that's right. And
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  Speaker 1: even started when they benched Bryce for a bit. The
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  Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles now.
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  Speaker 4: He's with the Eagles? That's crazy. I forgot about that guy. Ready?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. You like this game?
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  Speaker 4: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Who am I? My biggest NFL fame might have more
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  Speaker 1: to do with Italian food than quarterbacking.
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  Speaker 4: Tommy DeVito! Got one. Got one.
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  Speaker 1: I have two more here. I won two national championships
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  Speaker 1: in college.
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  Speaker 4: Two national championships. Give me a second on that one.
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  Speaker 4: He won two, so his college team was it. Okay, next.
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  Speaker 1: I became one of the oldest quarterbacks ever selected in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL draft.
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  Speaker 4: Chris Winkie? Still playing?
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: Still playing.
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  Speaker 4: Tim Tebow's not playing. Nah, next.
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  Speaker 1: I won those titles at Georgia.
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  Speaker 4: Dang. But one of the oldest quarterbacks. That's the one
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  Speaker 4: that throws me off. One of the oldest. What did
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  Speaker 4: you say about that one?
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  Speaker 1: I became one of the oldest quarterbacks ever selected in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL draft.
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  Speaker 4: Dang, and he played at Georgia. Stetson Bennett.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. It is?
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  Speaker 6: Nice job, dude.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. The Rams back up.
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  Speaker 4: How old is that guy?
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think he was like 25 when
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  Speaker 1: he was drafted, right?
• 10:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Dude, I'll never forget when he did that Good Morning
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  Speaker 4: America or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Like, hi.
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  Speaker 6: He's 28 now.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Last one. I've been on five teams in four seasons.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, dang. That sucks. Five teams in four seasons.
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  Speaker 3: Gosh.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I can get something there. Just gets
• 10:39
  Speaker 4: moved around a lot.
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  Speaker 7: Next.
• 10:42
  Speaker 4: Next.
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: I once started all 17 games for Washington and led
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: the NFL in pass attempts.
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  Speaker 4: That's Marcus Mariota. No?
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  Speaker 1: He is the backup now. I guess he'll be the
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  Speaker 1: starter this week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: For Washington. Okay, next.
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  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick currently coaches at my alma mater. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Backup at UNC.
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  Speaker 1: No, he wasn't.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: He was a quarterback at UNC. He's a backup now.
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  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 11:12
  Speaker 4: UNC, whose man I think is Drake May. Who played
• 11:18
  Speaker 4: at UNC? Backup all over in Washington. Oh, that's Sam Howell?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Cowboys.
• 11:25
  Speaker 4: Wow! Sam Howell, the backup quarterback of the Cowboys. Let's
• 11:30
  Speaker 4: hope he never plays.
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: Everybody's hurt, man.
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  Speaker 4: Dang. That's a fun game. Do you know who I
• 11:35
  Speaker 4: saw in Vegas one time? Probably the richest backup quarterback
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  Speaker 4: who probably never played.
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: Former Missouri Tiger?
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  Speaker 4: I think that's it. Who? Chase Daniel?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 11:45
  Speaker 4: Dude, I saw him in Vegas. Had no idea, but
• 11:48
  Speaker 4: the guys are like, ah, that's Chase Daniel.
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  Speaker 7: Big dude?
• 11:51
  Speaker 4: Big dude.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he looks big.
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: I would say the richest backup ever is, and he's
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: not a backup right now, he's a starter, is probably
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. Remember, he was drafted behind RG3 and backed
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  Speaker 1: up RG3. Same draft.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: I think RG3 was taken in the first. Maybe he
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: was taken in the fourth or fifth.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think fourth, yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He's not a backup now, so that's cheating.
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  Speaker 4: And then Chase, he never started, I don't think, ever.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so either. I mean, he may have
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: spot started. I don't think he was ever a starting
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: quarterback when a season started.
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  Speaker 4: But his contracts were in the millions.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: You see how much Tom Brady makes a year? I
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: saw that dude. $ 37. 5 million a year.
• 12:30
  Speaker 4: He's the highest announcer. The highest paid announcer on TV.
• 12:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: That's crazy.
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: What's your point?
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: Like Tom Brady? I can name five better announcers.
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: Than Tom Brady.
• 12:43
  Speaker 5: Oh, you can name better.
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But he's Tom Brady. That's why he's paid so much.
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  Speaker 1: He's the best quarterback of all time.
• 12:49
  Speaker 4: But are you watching Fox Sports just to listen to
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: Tom Brady?
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  Speaker 1: I'm watching nothing to just hear anybody do a game. Fair.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't watch games based on the announcers. I
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: don't get excited about the announcers. I think if I
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: go favorite announcing team... The only team that I can
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: really think of that I think sometimes is good is
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: if I do, like, watch Big Ten. Gus Johnson?
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  Speaker 6: It's Gus.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, Gus is awesome.
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Joel Katz.
• 13:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they're good. I love Herb Street.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's the only team I can even think of, though,
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  Speaker 1: that exists. Because I can also go, like, there are
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  Speaker 1: certain guys that I like.
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  Speaker 4: I love Al Michaels' voice.
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  Speaker 1: Still? Still.
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  Speaker 4: Love it, dude. It's pretty boring, though. The sound of
• 13:33
  Speaker 4: his voice just reminds me of a nighttime football game,
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: NFL football game.
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  Speaker 1: That's your childhood speaking.
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  Speaker 4: For sure.
• 13:39
  Speaker 6: Have you guys listened to J.J. Watt take over for
• 13:41
  Speaker 6: Romo yet?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fine. Honestly, when I first heard it, I
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  Speaker 4: forgot it was J.J. Watt, and I just thought, like, oh,
• 13:48
  Speaker 4: that sounds good, whatever that is, whoever that is.
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of the money they get paid
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  Speaker 1: to is based on how they can be an ambassador
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  Speaker 1: for the network.
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  Speaker 6: For sure.
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: That's why you pay Tom Brady the big bucks because
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: you have Tom Brady and he's also doing interviews and
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: he's your guy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. The face for you.
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Like he does power rankings for Fox every week on
• 14:07
  Speaker 6: the socials.
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  Speaker 1: All that stuff. Cause I think Greg Olson's probably the best.
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Uh, as far as like, like Joe Buck, like
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: would you put, as far as an athlete who's doing it?
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: Joe Buck does play by play. Greg Olson is color.
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: So these are the color announcers.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: The athletes are usually the color because they're adding something
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: to the game. They didn't come up in broadcasting.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it makes 37 and a half million a
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: year just from that.
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: That's crazy. Do you guys like Collinsworth?
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. I know some people don't, but I
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: think he's become a character of himself. Yeah. Mostly because
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: other people have made him a character by doing the impression.
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: He is. Yeah.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: I can't do the impression.
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: Can you? Not really. I mean, he talks like this.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: Kinda you do, yeah.
• 14:52
  Speaker 6: A little bit.
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: No one's as good as Patrick Mahomes to me.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: The only impression I feel like I can do now
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: by hearing it a lot is this one.
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. The Count?
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: The Count, yeah, yeah.
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: From Sesame Street?
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I listen to a lot of kids' music.
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: Oh, what the heck? I was thinking announcer.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no. I got none.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: None in that one. The only thing I can kind
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: of do is ah, ah, ah, ah.
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: The Count. That's good.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: Because we listen to those Sesame Street songs.
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: That's good.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: And the number songs. So, yeah, what's the game? You
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: can't do your own team. What's the game you're looking
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: forward to this weekend?
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: Hmm.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: I think Texas and.
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: Tennessee for me. That's what I mean.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: College.
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: College. Texas, Tennessee.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: But it did college or pro.
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: I know, dude. I can't think of any other game
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: than mine. Than Rio de Janeiro. That sucks. That they're
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: playing over there?
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the game's never real.
• 15:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: I was listening to a podcast the other day. They
• 15:51
  Speaker 6: were saying that that field is pretty bad, too.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah. Well, then it's a thing, too. When you
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: play these soccer stadiums and you're dealing with turf that's
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: meant for soccer.
• 15:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: It's not football turf. Slipping and sliding.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Ah.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: One.
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: The Rams and Broncos should be good Sunday night.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't care that much.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: I care about the Cowboys and Ravens. Yep. There's a
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: few good college football games this weekend.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: Arkansas, Tulsa.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: It can't be my own team.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: I'll pick it for you.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Thank you. If we lose that one.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: It's Trouble City. Yeah.
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: Ole Miss, Florida.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: Oh, I like that one.
• 16:32
  Speaker 7: Interesting.
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: Because Florida is like, okay, are they going to be
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: pretty good this year? And then Ole Miss coming off
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: that high, it's like, can they do it on the
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: road in Florida now?
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: I want Barry Odom to beat Notre Dame. That would
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: be cool.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: That would be cool.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: Like, I want that.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: The only coaching friend that I have that's winning right
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: now is the App State coach. I was texting him,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Dal Loggins, the 3-0.
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: I don't watch a lot of them unless they're playing
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: late night.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: You mean you don't bet on them? I think you
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: said that wrong.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: I was texting with him the other day, and they're 3-0.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Everybody else is struggling, and all my friends that coach
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: teams are like the low end of the NIL pool.
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: Hey, he's a fairly new friend, but Colin Klein, Kansas State,
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: they're doing pretty good.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: But that's just somebody I've interviewed. That's not a friend.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I don't have Colin Klein's number. I don't text Colin Klein.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: We hung out with him for a solid hour and
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: a half, right?
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Who are you talking about?
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: Colin Klein, Kansas State.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, think about what you're saying.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: We hung out with Colin Klein? Wait, did we?
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: No.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: Oh, was that the old coach?
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: What was his name?
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Chris.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: Chris Klein. Wasn't there a Klein? I swear we hung
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: out with a Klein.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Name's close.
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: Probably at some point we did.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: Oh, Chris Kleinman. Yeah.
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: Is that it?
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: That is close, yeah.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: I'm just going a deeper hole, man.
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: I ain't kidding.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: If you guys get bad service, do you still tip 20%?
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: I do. Mostly because my wife makes me. I feel
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: like I want to tip them more because it's bad service,
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: but no, my wife just won't let me do that.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: You want to tip them less?
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: Less, I mean. Yeah, less.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Same. A base 20.
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: Because I usually do more than 20 if it's good.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Dang, baller.
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: Like 21.
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: How high?
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: 21?
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: What about you, though? You're a different kind of tipper.
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you're like 50.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: More. Percent? Yeah.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: Oh, you've done 100%.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Most times.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: It depends what the bill is. If I go and
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: it's a dinner where I'm paying for like six or
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: eight people, that almost never happens because I don't go
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: to dinner with people. But if it's like that, I'm
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: definitely not going to do 100% of that bill. But
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: if it's... A $ 60 or $ 70 bill, I'll do another
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: $ 60 or $ 70 on it.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: Dang.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: We went to a restaurant the other day, and I
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: forget that that's rare, right?
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: What?
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: Tipping that much? Yeah. It's very rare.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: We went to a restaurant to eat before Brooks and
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Dunn the other night. We had a baby, so we
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: don't almost know going out at all. And we go
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: and eat at this place, and the bill was like $ 80,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: so I tipped $ 80 on top of it. And the
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: waiter came over and I thought I was in trouble
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: after we had paid. And he's like, hey man. I
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: was like, what? He's like, I just want to say
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: thank you.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: I was like, for what?
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: He was like, no, the tip. I was like, oh
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: my God. I didn't know what happened.
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: Wait, I want to know, you went out to dinner
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: and your bill was only 80 bucks. That's what happens
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: when you don't drink alcohol.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: That's exactly what happens when you don't drink alcohol.
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: That's awesome.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Because I don't think it was much more than that.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: We wouldn't drink at all either. Because I started to go,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: maybe I low-balled that, but I don't think so. Two
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: people just having a meal and we had like chips
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: and guac. It's about 80, 85 bucks a day.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: So stupid. You can turn an $ 80 meal where you
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: have a lot of food, appetizers, entrees, like you said, chips, whatever.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: But if you put alcohol on that, you're looking at $ 150, $ 200.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Because they're jacking the prices up of the alcohol, too, right? Yeah.
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and if you go to a nice place, I mean,
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: you can't get a decent drink for under $ 15.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: I got a question for you guys.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: God dang.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I would not go out to eat. I'd not order
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: alcohol at dinner.
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: That's why you get the buzz going before, and then
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: you just have one drink.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Oh, you pregame before dinner?
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: I mean, it depends on what the night's going to entail.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: My wife ordered a $ 15 drink the other day when
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: we went to dinner, and I was like, wow, that's
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: a lot. She gets it. She hates it. So she's like,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: this is not good. And I said, well, just send
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: it back. She's like, no, no, no. I ordered it.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: You know, like I ordered it. I got to drink it.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: What was not good about it?
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: It wasn't what she thought it was.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: So it was her fault.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, she ordered it thinking the description on the
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: menu sounded like something she would like.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Did it match the description on the menu?
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Yes. I would say it did.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: And then she'd take a sip and be like, oh,
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: it's so bad. So she didn't even finish it. She
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: tried to drink it. She didn't even finish it. Still
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: paid 15 bucks.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I would think if it met the expectation, you still
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: pay for it. If you ordered it and it didn't,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: it didn't have whatever it said it had in it,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: or it didn't have one of the, like, fruit, it
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: wasn't fruit. If something led you to think it was
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: something else, I think you can go, hey, oh, this
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: really wasn't what I thought it was going to be.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I think you can send it back. But it's like
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: if you order a well-done hamburger and it comes well-done,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: it's exactly, and you eat a third of it. You
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: don't go, ah... Unless it's messed up.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Well, what if it tastes bad, though? What if it's like, ah.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: If there's something messed up about it, yes.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: But you know what a hamburger tastes like? It tastes
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: like a normal hamburger.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: You've had millions of them.
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: Then you just know, next time you come here, I'm
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: not getting a hamburger.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's tough, though, because that's so expensive for a drink.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: I know. I hated it.
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: Did you try it?
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: I did try it, and I didn't like it either.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Because usually, if I like it, I'm like, well, just
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: give it to me. I'll drink it.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: But what about, like, because we went to an Italian restaurant,
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: and half the time I look at the menu, I'm like,
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: I don't know what all these words are. How risky
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: do you get on a menu?
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I will take a picture of the menu and put
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: it into ChatGPT.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: No way.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: And say, break this down for me. Tell me exactly
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: what it is. I don't know what some of this means.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Dude, that's next level.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: It doesn't feel next level to me because I do
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: it so often with everything. So it's not risky to
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: me because I don't want to get food I hate
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: because I'm so impatient. I like to get there. I
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: don't like to order food. whatever drinks and you want
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: to do appetizers. Okay. I want to sit down and
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: order everything at once. And then when I'm done eating,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I like to leave. And so I don't want to
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: risk messing up my food order and then having to
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: order something else. So yeah, I don't, no risk.
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: That's going to be good when you, cause the baby's
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: not eating solid food or anything yet, but when he,
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: now is she, okay.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Well, when you do take her out, we have steak
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: every Tuesday, a tomahawk.
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: And you've got to be efficient with the baby. As
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: soon as we sit down and we go out with
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: the babies, we order them whatever, chicken nuggets and fries
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: or whatever.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: Because you know you have a certain amount of time.
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, for them. And then when the waiter comes back,
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: then we order our food. But for them, you know
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: you've got to do it now because as soon as
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: they start losing it and they don't have food in
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: front of them, it's over.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: Do you guys ever walk to the table and scope
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: out the food that people are eating and be like, ooh,
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: I want that?
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: No, because I don't want people looking at my food,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: but my wife does. Really? She'll see something somebody's eating
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: and she's so warm to people anyway. She'll be like, hey,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: excuse me, what are you guys eating there?
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, look, oh my God, oh my God,
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: oh my God.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: That's awkward. And then it's such a friendly exchange. Like,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, this is the tapioca. And she's like, oh,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: it's like so good. I'm going to get that.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: And I'm just like, oh my God, oh my God,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: why are you bothering them? But same with having our
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: picture taken by people.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: We places.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: And if she wants like, how would you get a,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: have a picture taken of us? And I'm like, oh no,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I don't want to ask anybody. And she'll be like, hey,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: excuse me, would you mind taking it? And they're like,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I would love to.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, people don't mind.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't, I hate bothering people.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: If somebody asks you, like, hey, could you take this
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: picture for me? Yeah, no problem.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Dude, I'll lay on the ground on my stomach, army
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: crawling to get the perfect angle.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Steven Spielberg.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I'm climbing trees. I'm like, no problem. But I don't
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: like asking. I feel like I'm putting people out.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: So, yeah.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I got a text just now from the Tulsa athletic director.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Uh-oh, he's talking crap?
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Well, I know him because when I bought the outfield
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: for DJ. Yeah. And so he said, I'm not sure
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: if you're going to be at the game, but I'd
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: like to say hello and thank you in person. We've
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: only talked on the phone a few times. I say
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I won't be early. This will be the golf tournament
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: or spring. Looking forward to it. I thought he meant
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: softball game.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: No, I meant softball.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Because they're playing winter.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Where are they playing? Are they playing in Arkansas?
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: They're playing in Arkansas, yeah. And he said, my bad.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Should have been more specific. I'm coming to Fayetteville with
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: the football team on Saturday. I was thinking you may
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: be there.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Are they playing softball right now?
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're playing like winter ball.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't realize that.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: They play area, JUCOs, and just to get some reps in.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: I saw hockey. Is there preseason going already?
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like, already?
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. I saw the Preds had a game.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Preds still here? The Preds are still in Nashville, man.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: How about that? Dude, I forget about them. My kids
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: and I were talking about pro teams because my son's like, oh, man,
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: why do the Grizzlies live in Memphis? We should have
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: them here. I'm like, we've got the Titans.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: That's about it. And then we're just like, oh, crap,
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: I forgot we have the Preds. But if we had
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: a basketball team, they could easily move in there, right,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: and play at Bridgestone?
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I think there'll be a baseball team.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: Before basketball?
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I think we're a couple years from a baseball team. Yeah.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: Dude, how do they get butts in those stadiums? What
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: do you mean? Because they play so many games.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's generally the problem with baseball. 81 home games.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a lot.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: It's a lot. And it's also why day games, they're
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: not that full. They're just generally not.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: Packed that's gonna be cool man with our schedule or
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: we're like done at one o'clock.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah because i'm going to a baseball game when i
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: leave here why not i mean if i'm part owner
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: i'll probably get.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Over there a little bit yeah dude.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Because i will if the team happens here i will
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: be a minority owner that's awesome small minority.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: But still part of the team still minority yeah uh
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: we do have.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Jeff out coming up and so we're gonna talk nfl
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: with him We'll talk about our teams.
• 25:58
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• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Hey, let's welcome in Jeff Howe, NFL insider for The
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Athletic and reporter who's covered the league for both the
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: team level and the national level for nearly two decades.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: He spent years covering the Patriots through Belichick and Brady
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: and then moved into a league-wide role. Now he's one
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: of the best in the business when it comes to
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: anything NFL-related. Jeff, appreciate you. I do want to start
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: first with the Giants. What are they going to do
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: at quarterback?
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: There's going to be a whole lot of praying because
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: there's not a lot that they can do. Their franchise,
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: the future of their franchise at the position has been
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: banked on Jackson Dart and his health.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: And right now that's not available.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: And as we saw the other night, Jameis Winston, when
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: he stepped in, of course, he's one of the highest
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: paid backups in the league. He had a pretty rough night,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: of course, in difficult circumstances. I would expect him to
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: be better in the future. But at this point, You know,
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: the best thing they can do is just duct tape
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: this thing together and hope the Jackson Dart comes back
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: healthy whenever that happens to be.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: And so I actually have read and it's a lot
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: of speculation that it's going to be a season ending injury.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: So that could be next year. So do the Giants
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: still try at this point?
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Well, they it's a it's an interesting question. And you
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: could ask the same thing about the commanders. You know,
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: other teams are going to be in the same boat, too.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: And it's a valid concern, but I think, yes, absolutely,
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: they have to because John Harbaugh is there to reinstall
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: or really reconstruct the Giants' culture. And you cannot reconstruct
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: a culture with that coach being the face of it
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: and then just say, oh, it's time to lose.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: It's time to start sitting all your best players.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Let's just try to cash in on the best possible
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: draft pick that you can get next spring. So the
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Giants are going to do their level best.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: And you know what?
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Honestly, like, Yeah, Jackson Dart looked good. The Giants looked
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: good in the opener. But, you know, we don't know
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: for sure that this was all of a sudden going
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: to be a double digit win team. This was supposed
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: to be a building block type of season. So the
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Giants can still use those, you know, build that foundation,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: try to figure out who their core pieces are going
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: to be under Harbaugh in the future when Jackson Dart
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: does return. And if things really, really go south, if
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: they can really just belly flop and all of a
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: sudden they're in a position to draft a quarterback, that's
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: when the that's when the question is going to get
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: a lot more interesting.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Speaking of quarterbacks, I was reading your article on Brock Purdy.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Are we only underrating him because he's still Mr. Irrelevant
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: in our minds unfairly?
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's another great question. And I can
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: answer this from a little experience covering technology. Tom Brady
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: for his career. I mean, he didn't get a lot
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: of respect for a while. I mean, even after the
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: first three Super Bowls, his first four seasons as a starter.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: still wasn't getting a lot of respect because he was
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: draft pick number 199. Because, you know, if you're ever
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: looking for somebody to win a 40-yard dash, you're not
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: going to pick Tom Brady first and you're not going to,
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: you know, you're not going to pick him one billionth.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: But what it comes down to is, you know, eventually
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: you're going to start to shake these stereotypes or whatever
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: reputation people have, preconceived notion that people have of you.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: The other thing working against Purdy, though, is that he's
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: playing for Kyle Shanahan's system. That's an extremely quarterback-friendly system.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: It's not as unique as it was, let's say, five
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: to eight years ago. There's a lot more people running
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: this West Coast-style system in the league. So I think
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: people are looking at Kyle Shanahan as the real star.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: Or they look at, hey, you know what? While Brock
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Purdy was coming up and just trying to manage these games,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: just trying to play turnover-free football, not lose games.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: They leaned on these stars. So he was out of
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: the spotlight.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: But now you look at the way the San Francisco
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: 49ers have had success Throughout the balance of his career,
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: I think he's made 47 starts. A lot of those
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: have been very impressive ones. When this team is healthy,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Purdy included, he can be the guy who actually drives
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: the success.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: So Tyler Shuck has been playing really well, at least
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: the last half of last season. And I'd say a
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: game and a half so far this season. The Saints
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: almost beat the Lions. They did win that second game.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: You know, he was hurt a lot in college, Oregon,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: and ended up at Louisville. So there wasn't a real
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: high expectation on him performing, mostly, I think, because he
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: was old and because he'd been hurt so much. But
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: is some of that this guy stays hurt? Is some
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: of that gone at this point?
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: That is something that you certainly have to continue to
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: prove when there's a saying in the NFL for a reason,
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: hurt guys stay hurt. So you have to overcome that.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Jackson Dart is going to have to start to overcome that.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Brock Purdy had to overcome that to an extent. So
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Tyler Shuck so far has been healthy, but that was
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: a story that followed him throughout college. And that's why
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: he slipped into the second round. Now, he came out
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: in a draft class that wasn't all that exciting. And
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: people didn't really know what to make of the group.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Shador Sanders got all the hype. Cam Ward got the
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: hype as the number one pick. Jackson Dart was like
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: that fringe guy who was exciting. He had a lot
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: more of a spotlight in college. Tyler Shuck was the
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: guy who flew completely under the radar. But the Saints
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: were doing work on him for quite a while, you know,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: as they were on the entire quarterback class. I don't
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: want to make it sound like they were zeroing in
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: on Tyler Shuck and nobody else, but they were comfortable
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: with him and they had a late first round grade
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: on him going into that. And they were going to
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: be comfortable to move up from 40 if necessary, if
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: they thought the board was going to fall unfavorably.
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: So that's how much they really liked Shuck.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: And what they saw last season for a team that
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: you want to talk about rebuilding a culture. I mean,
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: the Saints, I think before Shuck's, Shuck has won five
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: of his last seven starts. I think they were something
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: like five and 27 in in their previous 32 games.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: It was something obscene like that. So he's doing this
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: for a team that really doesn't know how to win.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: And that calming presence of somebody who's been around and
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: has the experience, you know, that draft age that everybody
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: mocked is now all of a sudden an asset because
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: he's such a great leader. And you're seeing people buy in.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: They bought into him late last season. I think the
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: rest of the league, the outside world was slow to
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: catch on to Tyler Shuck. But we're really starting to
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: see now what the Saints were seeing start to evolve
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: midway through last season when he started to earn the
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: opportunity to start and then really took it and ran
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: with it.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: You name-checked Shutter Sanders. Do you still feel like that
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: it's inevitable that he takes that job in Cleveland?
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he has to. They have to evaluate that.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, the Browns looked surprisingly decent last week,
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: and Deshaun Watson did too.
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: Let's just look at the numbers.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson is not going to be in Cleveland beyond
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: this season and barring some sort of mathematical miracle based
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: off of the salary and all that other stuff. So
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: they have to figure out what is going to be
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: the future of this organization. You know, they just changed coaches.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: They have Todd Munkin in his first year. That's going
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: to put, like it always does, when a coach gets fired,
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: that's going to put the GM on the spotlight. That's
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Andrew Berry. He drafted Shador Sanders. So these guys are
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: going to have to start at some point to figure
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: out what 2027 is.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: Going to look like.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: And it is going to be a potentially awesome draft
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: class for quarterbacks. So anybody who's in that no man's land,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: if you're not going to make the playoffs.
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: Around.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: October, November, once you start to see the writing on
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: the wall, you've got to evaluate these guys. And Shador
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Sanders and maybe even Dylan Gabriel are going to be
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: part of that equation for throughout the rest of the
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns season.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: One more quarterback question. If we go up to the commanders,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: obviously they have an injury. So Marcus Mariota is going
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: to start. How long do they expect that to be
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: happening up there?
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: That's I mean, even if let's say it's a similar
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: right now, it's still I don't know.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: It's still a mystery. So I'll start there.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: But right now, I mean, even if you look at
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: last season when he came back the first time from
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: the dislocated elbow, I think he was out for about
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: three weeks. He aggravated the injury, making a tackle, and
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: then he injures it again the other night. This is
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: now three times that he's suffered an elbow injury, two
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: of them gruesome dislocations in his last four starts. You
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: want to talk about shaking an injury label. This is
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: one that's going to be extremely difficult. Think about when
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: a guy has a shoulder injury and it keeps popping
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: out when he makes a tackle. You see that with
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: defenders a lot. What is going to be the situation
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: with Jaden Daniels' elbow? If the medical staff has an honest,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, they are having an honest conversation with the
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: coaching staff, the front office, they're going to figure out,
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: is his elbow loose?
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: Is this going to be a chronic issue?
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Is this going to be something that every single time
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: he falls or braces his fall, they have to hold
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: their breath and hope that it's not going to dislocate
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: and cause him to miss whatever it is, two, three, four,
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: more weeks at a time, that is not a risk
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: that you can take with your franchise quarterback. And it's
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: got to be a real gut punch for an organization
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: like the Commanders. You look at the Rookie of the
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Year season that Jaden Daniels had. Going into this season,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: still people thought that he had the potential to be
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: one of the better quarterbacks in the league. All of
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: the potential athleticism, excitement to his game in the world.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: But he just hasn't been able to stay on the field.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: They lived this with Robert Griffin III last decade. Number
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: two pick in the draft. Offensive rookie of the year.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: And then I think he was limited to 20 games
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: for the Commanders before they ended up parting. So the
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Commanders don't want this to be the scenario with Jaden Daniels,
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: of course. But as I mentioned with Jackson Dart, I
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: think the commanders have to take this a little more
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: seriously going into the draft this spring. I'm not saying
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: the commanders have to draft a quarterback in the first round.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: There's a long way between now and then until they
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: get to that point. But if they're going to be
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: honest with themselves and they're going to really stake the
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: future of this organization around Jaden Daniels, they got to
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: figure out if he is going to be reliable enough.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that as a personality thing. That's
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: just the elbow. That's just the science. Is this elbow
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: going to be reliable?
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: A problem.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: If it is, they've got to have a really blunt
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: look in the mirror going into draft season.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I was reading some of your camp intel before the
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: season started about the Bengals, and you were talking about
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: their defense and that you were a bit optimistic about
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: the Bengals' defense. Do you still feel that way through
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: two games?
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: They are 2-0.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Do you still feel pretty good about it?
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I have to admit, I'm even surprised
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: at how good the defense has looked the last two weeks.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: I've heard really good things about them, and I heard
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Joe Burrow had a really.
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: I don't want to say difficult. It's Joe Burrow. So
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: it's a relative term.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: But a difficult training camp for his standards because that
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: defense was a complete mess for the last two seasons.
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: It was a mess and it was getting worse. So
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: for the fact.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: The fact that it's actually turned around as quickly as
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: it has is impressive.
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: We'll see if it stays. But what I do like
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: is they can win up front now.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: They have pass rushers. Dexter Lawrence had a rep. It
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: was a short yardage situation. It might have been a
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: fourth and short or something like that. Dexter Lawrence won
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: that rep the other day so fast that I.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: Was like, oh my goodness.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: This guy is still for real. He's still very motivated.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: He can still take over games. Those Those interior guys
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: who can win any single, you know, I'm not saying
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: he's Aaron Donald in his prime or anything like that,
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: but those interior guys, when they can win as quickly
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: as Dexter Lawrence did in those money downs. And that's
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: a defense that has taken on more of an edge
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: and an attitude and you're seeing it. So I do
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: believe it's sustainable. I don't know if they're going to
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: be great for the balance of the remainder of the season.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: But the fact that they're competent and they're supporting Joe
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Burrow has got to be one of the most welcome
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: additions to the first two games of his season.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Chargers fans, are they right to panic?
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they should. It's a really scary start.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: And they have had some troubling starts in the past,
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: of course, for, you know, point to a number of
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: different reasons. But the offense looking as out of sorts
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: as it has against two teams that quite frankly, we
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: don't expect to be there at the end of the season.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: For the offense to look that out of sorts is
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: not ideal. They have the pieces and, you know, Justin
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Herbert is getting hit again. The protection hasn't been great.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: The running game hasn't been consistent. The other scary thing
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: is the mistakes. There are so many self-inflicted mistakes. I
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: was looking at the drive charts. You know, you want
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: to look at the turnovers. I believe They're losing the
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: turnover battle through two games 5-1.
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: That's terrible. That's a recipe to go 0-2 in itself.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: But the other thing that I don't like that I
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: think is a peek behind the curtain is the penalties
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: that they're not able to overcome and it's it's frequent
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: you know you look at the punts the boring offensive
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: possessions that they've had which to their standard right now
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: have been some of their better possessions uh based off
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: the sloppiness but you look at the penalties they're not
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: over able to overcome them so when they get into
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: second and you know beyond the chains third and long
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: they're not converting they're not able to dial up some
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: of these big plays that somebody like Justin Herbert should
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: have no problem being able to execute so I think
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: this is a deeper issue I think there is always
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: going to be a learning curve between a quarterback and
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: a new offensive coordinator especially two guys who have had
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: success in their fields so I You know, you have
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: to build in a little bit of patience, but the
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: fact that it's looked so sloppy with so many self-inflicted
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: mistakes that are continuing to pop up game after game,
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: two games, but game after game.
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: Against two subpar opponents is extremely troubling.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: And a brutal schedule coming up. I mean, the next
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: six games are just awful. Like, they're just holding on
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: until they play the Jets in like a month and
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: a half. So that's a surprising 0-2 for me. A
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: surprising 2-0 for me is the Raiders. Now, is it luck?
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Is it Kubiak? Is it Kubiak and Cousins? What do
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: you think the Raiders 2-0 means?
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: I think it means that they've played well through two games,
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: and they have. Now, again, they haven't played great opponents.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Some of that they deserve credit for, but Kubiak has
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: come in and really stabilized the coaching staff. Last season,
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: they had all sorts of problems. No further than necessary
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: than the offensive line. I mean, the offensive line might
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: have been the poorest coached group in the entire NFL
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: last season.
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: And that's not my opinion.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: That is coming from people from other teams who studied
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: the Raiders. It just it was a bad situation. And
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: I think there were too many differing viewpoints. So now
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: you've got the regime kind of operating together and Kubiak
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: and Cousins. And, you know, you add some of the
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: bit of the culture elements to that. You're able to.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: establish a running game that doesn't look like it's just
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: constantly in quicksand or running through mud.
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: So that's been a big start.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: And I think you've got Kirk Cousins, who is able
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: to rely on his strengths. Their receivers are undermanned, not
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: high-quality receivers, certainly not a lot of depth there. But
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: you can rely on Ashton Gentry or Mike Washington or,
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: you know, Brock Bowers more as the season goes on.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: And then sprinkle in some Trey Tucker and some Jalen Naylor.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: So you've got a guy who is smart enough at
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: quarterback that he's not going to, you know, force things
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: that aren't there. And having that calming veteran presence has
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: helped them. You know, I think it's going to help
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Fernando Mendoza. I was really impressed with the way Kirk
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Cousins was talking to me about his mentorship of Mendoza
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: and the long game that they're playing there. But right
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: now in the short game, this is a team that
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: when you are really trying to rebuild the foundation, you know,
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: when you're at the early, the very early stages of rebuild,
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: like the Raiders are, the Dolphins, you know, other teams,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: you just want to be difficult to play against. You
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: want other teams to walk away from that game and say,
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: you know what? That's a well-coached group. We had to
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: earn that win. Right now, nobody is earning anything against
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: the Raiders. I'm sorry, they're not able to beat the
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Raiders or triumph or anything like that. And I think
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: eventually the Raiders will come back to earth. But right now,
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: they're doing things that you want a team that's rebuilding
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: to be able to do.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you about two teams and then
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: we'll wrap. And just two teams to the guys here,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: fans up on the show. So give me the floor
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: and the ceiling of the Patriots.
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: I know them well.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: I think their ceiling is... extremely high because Drake May
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: has shown us that he can take over games and
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: he's not, you know, he's still a work in progress.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: The game against Seattle was bad. He was shaking off
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: some things in the second game against Pittsburgh too. Drake
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: May is going to be one of the best quarterbacks
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: in the league. He's already very close to that level.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: He's going to get better when the offensive line is better,
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: when everybody sort.
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: Of helps him a little bit more, when they get
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: a little healthier.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: He's a guy who can play complimentary football when he
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: needs to, and he's a guy who can really put
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: the team on his back when he needs to. I
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: think right now you saw a guy who got a
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: little bored against the Seahawks. He made some really bad
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: mistakes and cost them a game in the opener, and
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: we'll see. If that's something that they're going to regret
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: as the season goes on. But I think they are
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: they have a high they have a high floor. And truly,
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: I think they have a high ceiling, too.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Is that Super Bowl ceiling?
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: I'm not picking them to get back there. I don't
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: think they're going to win it. But I think the
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: AFC is there to be had for some team that's going.
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: To get hot.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: OK, the last team ceiling and floor Dallas Cowboys.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: The ceiling isn't the ceiling always the Super Bowl in
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Dallas and isn't the floor always I mean are they
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: what are they I apologize to one in one right
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: now so I guess the floor is one in 16
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: because let's be practical but you know that's that's a
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: doomsday situation I'm just trying to have some fun here
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: the the Cowboys are a team that We're going to
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: find out a whole lot about them this weekend. They
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: have spent so much time going into the Micah Parsons
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: trade and coming out of the Micah Parsons trade, talking
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: about how they want to be better on defense against
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: the run. Well, you got Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: on Sunday or this weekend. So how good are you
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: against the run? They have some really good players up
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: front on the interior who can hold their own against
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: the run. I think they're better equipped, but we got
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: to see them pass this test. And if their defense
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: can be competent or complimentary and help Dak Prescott rather
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: than force Dak Prescott to go out and try to
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: win as many games and play perfectly as possible. You know,
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: if the defense can hold their own, then I think
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: the Cowboys are going to be a playoff team and
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: we'll see if they can finally win a game in January.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: You can read his articles. on The Athletic. I'm a
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: big fan. You can follow him on Twitter, Jeff P.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: Howe.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Jeff, thank you so much for the time, and hopefully
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: we'll talk to you again soon. Thank you.
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Thanks a lot for having me.
• 45:34
  Speaker 7: Thanks, Jeff.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: If the Cowboys beat the Ravens, are the Cowboys back?
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Officially.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: Officially, if we can beat the Ravens, dude, it's on.
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: It's on. You're going to see those odds go back up.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: We're going to be number three again.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Up or down.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: Well, I guess up in the list is the way
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: I see it. But I mean, dude, yeah, I think
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: the Ravens.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: The Ravens are really good.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: They're legit.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: I like the Ravens. I hate that game's in Rio
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: de Janeiro.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: I bet they hate that too.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because whoever wins, if you lose, you go, well,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: we had to travel down to South America.
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: Brazil, yeah.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: What's crazy is they play at like 3 p.m.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Time zones are the same.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: I know. It's just weird to even think that.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Because when Mike and I were in Costa Rica, we
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: were down there for a month. doing the show wasn't
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: hard for me because the time zones were exactly the same.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: You just kind of draw a straight line and that's
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: where the time zones are. And it's kind of straight down.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: That is weird.
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: I didn't know that. I was like, I was probably
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: like nine in the morning.
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: That's what I thought too. And I like really got
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: excited when it wasn't an 8am game.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm going to make a couple more future bets.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: I do have this here from DraftKings. So the Rams
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: are the favorite right now at plus 650. Who do
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: you think is second overall?
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: Right now, where we stand, I mean, it has to be,
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: I would say it has to be the 49ers.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: No, they are fifth. Buffalo is at two.
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: Oh, Buffalo, of course, yes.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: The Ravens at three.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: The Seahawks at four. And the 49ers at five.
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: I'm shocked that the Seahawks are still up there like that.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: They're winning without a quarterback. Yeah.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: But they don't look great. They're winning. You know, a
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: win's a win, but I mean.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: They've only played two weeks in the first game. Yeah.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, they beat the freaking Patriots.
• 47:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: And they're good.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: That was week one.
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but they smoked the Cardinals.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: We saw the Cardinals, really.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: But also, they won the Super Bowl with basically the
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: same team.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: I know. I just feel like that's where the Cowboys
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: should be, in that spot right there.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: At four?
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: They're not in the top 10.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: We just beat the Commanders, dude.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: They're not in the top 10. Spanked them. We barely
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: beat the Commanders without the quarterback.
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: So one, two, three, four, five. The Chiefs are at six.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: The Eagles at seven. The same division. The Eagles are
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: over the Cowboys.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: I know. That's so stupid.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: The Bengals at eight.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: How are they? Go back to the Eagles. They barely
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: beat the Titans. And you're going to leave them there? Obviously,
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: they have problems.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: It's a week-to-week league.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: I know. I know. But I just feel like the Eagles,
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: we already had question marks in front of the Eagles
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: before the season started.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: What was your question?
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: Are they going to be any good?
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: Well, that's every team.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: I didn't think they were going to be very good. Dude,
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: the Titans almost beat them. It was a stupid mistake
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: why the Eagles won. So I feel like that's just
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: an overreaction.
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: It's also 200 degrees on the field. There are some
• 48:45
  Speaker 6: weird things going on.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: Head coach on needing IVs.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: The Eagles, to me, were just who they're going to
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: throw the ball to for the most part.
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: I saw they got Ertz back. Did you see that?
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: They did.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: Like they brought him back out of retirement?
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: I knew that he was back because I saw him
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: pop up on the fantasy waiver wire.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: Oh, because Goddard's out.
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: Got it.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: So the Bengals, 9 and 10 are the Lions and
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: the Broncos.
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: Man, I don't trust the Lions at all.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: No.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Well, they're playing defensively without right now. Yeah. I'm going
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: to make a couple future bets here. Do you do
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: futures at all? No. Or do you just feel like
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: that's wasted money so you can't have it right now?
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: Correct. That's exactly what I was going to say because
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: I don't want to wait that long to get paid.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: So you're just not good at delayed gratification in any way.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: That's right because, man, I've seen some bets where I'm
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: like even for like You know, the Lions to make
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: the playoffs or whatever. Or I look at Minnesota to
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: clinch their division. Looks like a pretty solid bet, but
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: that's way too long to wait for it.
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: But it makes it more fun to watch throughout the season.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: I'd agree with that. That's why, because I have the Cowboys.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to find.
• 49:54
  Speaker 6: Like, I'm watching Dak closer than ever this year because
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: I have that future on him winning the MVP.
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: And you did bet it. I did bet it. Yeah,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I bet that.
• 50:01
  Speaker 6: And then I bet Malachi Toney to win the Heisman future.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, and he's like fifth right now, huh?
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and their schedule is just so bad that he
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: has a good chance.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: It's tough, too, because their quarterback's probably going to get
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: it before him. It's tough to be a receiver and
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: to get it. I mean, no, the receiver from Alabama
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: that won it a few years ago.
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: Oh, Devontae Smith?
• 50:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: It's rare that a receiver gets it over a quarterback
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: because the quarterback's got to get him the ball.
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: And every time he does score a touchdown, he does
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: the Heisman pose. But I think their quarterback is second
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: or third overall right now. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so I'm
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: going to go with.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: I'm going to bet a Baltimore future. They're plus $ 950.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: I'm going to bet $ 250.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: Dang, that's hefty.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: It's not as much as my Cowboy one.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: How much is your Cowboy's? $ 500?
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: Dang. But you got that when they were higher.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: The Cowboy one's for like $ 13, 000 if they win.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: I love that.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: This one's $ 250 to win $ 950 or so. So I'm
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: going to put that there. And then I'm also going
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: to put a future on the Broncos. I meant to
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: do that when Amy psychically predicted them anyway.
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: Feel good about that?
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: I just will feel bad if they end up winning
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: and I didn't do it more than I feel good
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: I didn't think she was seeing the Broncos, so therefore
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: I didn't bet it.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: That's not why, because you could have bet it on anybody.
• 51:23
  Speaker 6: You just don't do futures.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: Do you ever get to the end of the season
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: and forget that you bet all those futures?
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: No, because I always watch them. And I wish they
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: would wipe them away once the team's eliminated. They never do.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Once the team sucks, yeah, it stays open. That drives
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: me crazy. Man, I almost want to put something on Jacksonville.
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: Well, they're going to lose this week, so don't.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: They're playing the Patriots?
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, if I do the Broncos and I put
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: $ 250 on it, that's for $ 5, 000. $ 5, 200. Okay, I'm in.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: So right now, I have $ 1, 000 worth of futures on
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: three teams. None of the favorites, though. I have the
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Cowboys and the Broncos. And the Ravens.
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: Do you ever put money on the Bills? Because, I mean, eventually, right? Like, eventually.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: I am not going to bet the Rams, the Bills,
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: because the odds just aren't good enough for me to
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: be excited about.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: You don't have any NFC.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: They're all AFC, huh? Cowboys.
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: Duh.
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: I was just hearing the Ravens.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Okay, so I'm in there. My Cowboy bet, though.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Let's see what they are and what they were. So,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: right now, the Cowboys are plus 2400. Whenever I bet it.
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: Less than that. 15 or something?
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: It was plus 2,500. So it's slightly better.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: They won a game since then.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they won a game.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Remember, I bet it before the first game.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: What are your thoughts about the Giants now?
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: They're done. They're toast. Is James Winston going to play
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: quarterback for them?
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: You might as well just lose. Just lose and get
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: a draft pick.
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: And then now it's like, can Jackson start ever stay healthy?
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, he has bought residency in
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: a blue tent.
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: He tried to come back in the game.
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: Crazy.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: They had to take his jersey from him. Yeah. He
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: was trying to get back in the game.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that guy's crazy. Him and Scataboo, man, they're just nuts.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: How long is he going to last? The Giants are
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: now going to be terrible this year. And what sucks
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: is you had to play them before they got bad.
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: Yep, because we could have been 2-0.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: So the Bengals, to win the AFC North, have a
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: better odds to win that division than the Ravens do.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, the Bengals have always been good. I have
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: no doubt in the Bengals.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Well, they've been bad the last couple years because Burrow's
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: been hurt. Correct.
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: So that's what you're betting on.
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: And their defense looked a little better in the first
• 53:37
  Speaker 6: two weeks.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Eagles are still the favorites to win in your division
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: over there.
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: That's stupid.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: What?
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: I'll take that back. I'm going to do that right now.
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: You know what? My first future ever. I'm going to
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: take that one.
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: Cowboys to win.
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: Yes, to win the division.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: Bobby, your future is toast now.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: Do you want to owe me to do it?
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: No, do whatever you want to do.
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: It's going to jinx your bet.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: Whatever you want to do.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: The wait is over. Football is here, and so is DraftKings.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: DraftKings is now live in all 50 states, one app,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: every sport nationwide. Looking at the college games, Texas at
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: number 14, Tennessee. That's an 11 o'clock game. That's going
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: to be a fun one. Like, I hate Texas so much.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: And I would like for Tennessee to beat them, but
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: not by much. I don't like Tennessee either, but I
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: dislike Tennessee less than I hate Texas.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: They're not both wearing orange, are they?
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: No, but in that Lane Kiffin book that I read,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: they had only ever worn two jerseys, home and away,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: no screwing around with any sort of different colors. And
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: they'd never worn black before ever. And that Halloween game,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin secretly had those black jerseys made. The team
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: didn't even know. They went out in warmups in their
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: normal jerseys. They went back in. They went to like
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: a Dick's Sporting Goods or something and had them made.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: And he was like, we got the black jerseys. And
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: they put them on. And when they came back out,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: it was the first time they ever wore black. And
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: the crowd was like, oh, my God. And the team
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, my God. It's a really cool story.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: That is really cool.
• 55:01
  Speaker 6: Those blacks are sweet.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: I couldn't say enough good things about the book. And
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: I know we have John on with us every week.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: But that's the only reason I read it, not the
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: only reason I liked it.
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: I asked Kevin this. Do you think Lane reads it?
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: There's a part of it where he sits with Lane.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: Lane didn't want anything to do with it, obviously. Lane
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: does not talk with him about things for the book.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: But there's a part where he's talking about, I was
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: just trying to sit down with Lane. And then Lane
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: ends up going, hey, let's talk. And it's him and
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: Lane's agent and Lane's other person. They're sitting at a
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: picnic table.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: That's cool.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Weird dude, man.
• 55:37
  Speaker 7: He is, huh?
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Weird dude. Very awkward. Very insecure person. Also extremely confident
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: at the same time. And it got like his first
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: five jobs, even how he went to college, just because
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: of his dad. That's it. Complete nepotism. Not that he's
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: not great now, but those jobs were just given to
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: him because of the relationships that other people had with him.
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: I forgot how young he was with that Raiders job.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: 31, I think.
• 56:05
  Speaker 6: Crazy.
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, 31.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: 31, head coach of the Raiders.
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: Crazy.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: And went into it as a nightmare. They write about it.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: Even reading it, you're going, oh my God, I couldn't
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: have played I couldn't have coached for Al Davis.
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: That's nuts.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: He was just drafting dudes because they were fast. And
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: they made him draft Jamarcus Russell, Lane.
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 56:22
  Speaker 6: He was there for that?
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: So they had the number one pick when he... So
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: the whole story is they tried to hire Steve Sarkeesian
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: for that job. And they had the interview, and Sarkeesian
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: felt like the interview went well. They tried to call Sarkeesian,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: who was at USC as an assistant at the time,
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: and go, hey, we want to offer you the job.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: And he just ghosted them. He's like, I'm not talking
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: to them. I don't want to have anything to do
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: with them. And so.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Lane was going to go and be the offensive coordinator
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: with the Raiders. Lane was only 31.
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: Crazy.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: And the guy was like, we're screwed. We don't have anybody.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: And Lane's like, can I interview? And so Lane flies
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: up and interviews, and they just give him the job.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: That seems— It was not for him. He didn't even
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: interview for the job until they didn't have anybody.
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: It seems like a long time ago.
• 57:00
  Speaker 6: No, it just seems like an NFL team, like that's
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: the way that you hire a head coach? It's just
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: wild to me.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: Al Davis did. Dang.
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: Like, that is a leader of your team, and you're
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: just like, oh, this guy's available. We don't have anybody else.
• 57:14
  Speaker 6: Let's try him out.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: You know, Lane Kiffin wanted to draft a receiver in
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: that draft, number one overall. Did not want to draft
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Jamarcus Russell. Wanted to draft Calvin Johnson.
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: Oh, Megatron.
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that worked out all right for the Lions, huh?
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: And he was forced to have Jamarcus Russell.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: Dang.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: Dang, it's crazy. Texas at Tennessee, that's fun. Ole Miss
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: at Florida. Mostly you're just seeing if this is an
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: Ole Miss letdown game. Not that Florida's not good enough
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: to win anyway, but they're not good enough to beat
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: Ole Miss. The thing is, it is in Gainesville.
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's going to be tough.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Iowa at Michigan, Oklahoma at Georgia. Man, Georgia's so good.
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, they're just killing teams.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: And, man, I wish Oklahoma wouldn't have lost that to Michigan.
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: That really hurts them. Their offense has really been struggling.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Not that it didn't struggle last year, but their defense
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: was able to make up for it. And then Texas
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: A & M at LSU. But Texas A & M
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: just lost at home to Kentucky last year. I know.
• 58:08
  Speaker 6: I'll be there for that one.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: He's going.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: Going to Baton Rouge?
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: First ever time. A couple of my buddies and I,
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: we've been trying to do a trip for seriously like 10,
• 58:17
  Speaker 6: 15 years.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, you're doing like a fun guy trip?
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: So like six months ago, this weekend worked out for
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: my friend who's a head coach out of a high school.
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: He's like, I got a bye week that weekend. So
• 58:25
  Speaker 6: we all put a name or a game into a hat.
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: I put this one in. It's mine. And we drew
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: it out of a hat. And this is the game
• 58:30
  Speaker 6: that got drawn.
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's cool. That's fun.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: You didn't do Arkansas Tulsa?
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: No.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: I thought about it.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: I'm sure somebody did, though, right?
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was like, maybe we have a house to
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: stay at in Arkansas.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: You could stay there.
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 58:42
  Speaker 6: So, yeah, we'll be there for that. My question real
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: quick to.
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: You guys, though, is.
• 58:45
  Speaker 6: Will I be cheating on my Vols if.
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: I wear LSU?
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: They're not your Vols, so yeah, go for it. Dude,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: you're such a big fan. You're not in a mutually
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: committed relationship with the Vols. I'm just saying they have
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: a big game this week. You like text to hook
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: up occasionally. That's the relationship you're in with the Vols.
• 59:00
  Speaker 6: That is true. It's like a college relationship.
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: What kind of gear are you wearing?
• 59:04
  Speaker 6: Just like a shirt. Nothing crazy.
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: A purple shirt?
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: No, black.
• 59:07
  Speaker 6: It's going to be so hot. I'm going to be sweating.
• 59:09
  Speaker 6: I need to hide it.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: You can wear an LSU shirt.
• 59:11
  Speaker 6: Okay, thanks.
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  Speaker 1: How long is too long of a voice memo to
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: leave somebody?
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: I would say over a minute. Oh, for a minute.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: Wrap it up. Like, well, what's the point of your
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: voice memo? Like, usually a voice memo, you're driving. You
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: don't want to text and drive, right? So you just, hey, man,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: real quick, I'm going to ask you a question. One minute.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: After that, I'm like, oh, my gosh, they're rambling.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: Do you ever leave them? No. Yeah, I've never gotten
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: one from you.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: Never? Because I hear it back and I'm like, oh,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: my voice sounds stupid.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: You talk for a living.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: That's how I talk.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: What do you think?
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: Minute and a half.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: Why the half?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 6: I think it would be a cut. Because a minute's
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 6: right there, because I've left them over a minute before.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 6: Because sometimes you're just like talking, and then you're like, yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: And there's like five to seven seconds that just kind
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 6: of dull. Oh, yeah, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 6: So like a minute and a half, I think.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Occasionally, I'll get up around two or three minutes, and
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: I'll go delete. Let me pack that in a little tighter.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: Oh, so you do a run through.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Not on purpose. I just end up going long, and
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: I go, I think I can. Almost clipped. I hear
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  Speaker 1: the basketball machine out there.
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  Speaker 4: I know the pop a shot.
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  Speaker 1: That they're building.
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  Speaker 4: It looks like they plugged it in.
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  Speaker 7: Did you hear it?
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  Speaker 1: Three, two, one.
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  Speaker 5: Ray's on it.
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  Speaker 4: The champ's on it?
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: He's on it, dude.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I think that, but I've also left three
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: and four minute ones and that's too long. But whenever
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: the text comes with it now, most of the time
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: it's fine because I can read through what they said. Yeah.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: But sometimes I'll get a long one and there's no
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: text on it. And I'm like, Oh God, I got
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: to listen to a podcast.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the tough part. You're like, I got to
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 6: walk away for a minute, go in a dark room
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 6: and listen by myself.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: Why a dark room?
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Who's sending you?
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 6: I'm just saying a random room to make sure you
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 6: can hear it all for a couple minutes.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: That's a good point because sometimes you send it to
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: me and I'm like, I can't listen to this now.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: I'm around people.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: But he went to a dark room.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know about the dark room. That's weird.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: He's like, I got to take my belt off. I
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: got to go into a dark room.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 6: Naked?
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: I don't know. It's weird.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: That's going to do it. Everybody feel good?
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: Feel good, man.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: Let's make some money this week.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: That's not how I feel going into weeks ever.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, never.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: See, I look at it as like, man, new weekend,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: time to make some bank.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know that I've won a bet. Dude,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you. I say that. I don't know that
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: I've won a bet.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: It's been hard.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: Because I was in Vegas last weekend and I didn't
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: bet at all. And the week before that, I don't
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: think that I have. Let's look at my last few bets.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Cowboys plus three and a half. Live spread lost. Oregon,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: live money line. Minus 153, lost. That was to Oklahoma State.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: Six pick parlay, lost. Kansas plus four against Missouri, lost.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: Three pick parlay, lost.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: Lost. Lost.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 7: Lost.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Dude, let me tell you the streak I'm on. Hold on. One, two, three, four, five. Yeah, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: I've lost twelve in a row. Dang.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: Dude, does that do anything to your psyche? Like, do
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: you feel like you're just a loser?
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: No, because I don't need to bet. And I didn't
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: bet at all last week, so it doesn't feel like
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: a constant loss. I bet when it's fun and... No.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: Like, if I have a good weekend, dude, I walk
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: into Mondays like... Whistling, like, man, I feel good. If
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: I have a bad weekend... I'm such a loser. I'm
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: down $ 100 this week.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: It was weird that first weekend of college when I
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: didn't hit a single bet. I was like, dang. I
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: just looked back and said, I don't think I hit
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: a single bet.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: But I'm not betting enough to affect me. And I'm
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: only doing it for fun, like supplement games.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: I think I'm going to do something a little different
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: this week. I'm going to do just parlays. Just small
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: $ 1 parlays. I'm not going to do any because sometimes
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: I get a little crazy. I'm like, oh, for sure
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: Alabama's going to win. Do $ 10 on that. Then that
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: gets me.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: The for sures?
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: The for sure that's going to happen. All right.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: That's it. Thank you, everybody. Eddie, blow the whistle.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: Oh, here we go. Hold on.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: I was looking at my phone.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: He's making bets.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: His parlays are starting.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Making bets. All right. I'll see you guys.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: Bye, everybody.
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• 1:04:25
  Speaker 7: to our crew. Co-host at Producer Eddie. Segment producer at
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  Speaker 7: Kickoff Kevin. And executive producer at Mike DiStro.
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