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Gerrymandering and the fight for fair representation · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  We are faith and fury.
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  Love and fire.
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  This is the human equation where every voice counts and every truth cuts deep.
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  With your host, Joseph Pancaro.
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  Hey everybody, and good evening and welcome to the human equation.
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  I'm your host, Joe Pangaro.
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  So there's so much going on in the news.
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  There's there's things of worldwide importance.
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  There are political importance things, there are things going on with interpersonal.
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  It's just amazing.
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  The news cycle's been really really busy recently.
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  And I don't like to focus, you know, completely on politics here.
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  I like to see what it is that, you know, okay, what does politics mean in the course of human interaction?
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  Now, in America, in our modern world, everything here is political.
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  Everything anybody says, anything anybody does, it's political, it's politically incorrect, it's it's absolutely right, it's wrong, it's hatred, it's speech.
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  All of these things revolve around our revolve revolve around our existence as human beings.
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  And I've seen I've seen a lot recently of scholars that I listen to, that I read their work, I listen to their social media, and there's a a conversation out there that the world is really falling apart.
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  We are really coming apart at the seams.
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  Why are our left-wing friends so out of their minds?
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  You know, what draws somebody to uh a cult?
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  What draws somebody to a political uh a political position?
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  Uh what makes people band together and seemingly lose their minds?
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  Okay.
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  So uh as I look at all of that, I I see it's pretty interesting how we as people uh in this modern world have are dealing with things that just seem so out of the ordinary.
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  The other thing I want to try and get to is the potential for these UFOs or UAPs or whatever you want to call them, uh what's the potential that they're real or that they're extraterrestrial life and they're not something else from here from from Earth from uh uh foreign government or some kind of technology.
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  I think it's it's expanding in a lot of different ways.
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  So, you know, we heard recently that there was a group of religious leaders brought together, and they were told by somebody from one of the you know alphabet agencies, CIA, DEA, whatever, that got them together that said, hey, you need to prepare your people for what's going to be released.
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  Now, is all of this going to be released, or is this just another subterfuge?
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  Right?
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  Is this just another, hey, look at this shiny thing over here to distract us?
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  Because I've heard that a lot.
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  I've heard a lot from um a lot of people that I know that all of this is a distraction.
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  It's a distraction because of Trump and the Epstein files, you know.
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  It's it's just amazing to me.
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  Um, I guess we'll we'll see in time, because they're saying there's more stuff coming out.
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  Uh and what is it, Representative Burchett, who's been talking about this, you know, he's been in the skiffs, uh, the secret place where they talk about show things that they can't reveal to other people for the politicians.
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  And he said, the things that he's seen will change will change our lives.
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  Okay.
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  Um he hasn't been coy about it.
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  He's come out and pretty much said the things that I've seen will change the way you see the world and and everything else uh around it.
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  So that sounds pretty dramatic, right?
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  To completely change our paradigm.
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  Dr.
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  Michio Okuko, uh, I think this guy's a brilliant scientist, astrophysicist kind of guy, and he came out and he said the release of the UFO information is altering to our existence as people.
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  So what does he know?
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  What has he seen?
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  I know he's been very clear on we we've seen these things from the government, they've shown us, you know, Navy pilots, film and whatnot, and there are certainly something there.
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  There are some kind of something moving.
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  Uh, and of course, uh Professukako says, well, there's no way there could be a living creature in there, because if a human being was in one of those ships making right degree turns and uh going straight up at 80,000 miles an hour and then stopping and going left and right, you would be obliterated as a physical living being.
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  You couldn't take those G forces and those moves.
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  So that's kind of interesting, right?
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  So we could talk about that a little bit more, the implications of this.
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  Uh what does it mean?
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  What does it mean to our religious backgrounds?
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  And I have some opinions on that.
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  Uh what does it mean if we found out we really are not alone in the universe, right?
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  And and I'll leave it here for now till I come back to it, because I have other stuff I want to talk about.
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  But my position has always been for my adult life, is that I believe the universe is teeming with life.
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  I think there's life all over the universe.
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  Will we ever get in contact with it?
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  The distances are so great.
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  It's uh it's unbelievable.
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  You know, uh, I was just talking to somebody about this the other day, and they were saying, well, look at how fast our spaceship got to the moon.
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  I said, Yeah, that's relatively close.
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  250,000 miles, and it took them what, three days to get there.
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  I said, the reality is the closest star to us is Alpha Centauri, and oh I'm sorry, Proxima Centauri, and that is uh four light years away, four light years away.
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  Well, at our fastest rocket, which does you know 25, maybe 30,000 miles per hour, I guess you would look at it, it would take 40,000 years to get to the to the closest star to us.
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  So we don't have the technology to travel amongst the stars.
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  Uh, you know, you look up and you see these stars shining in the sky, you're looking back in time.
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  You know, the Andromeda Galaxy is the closest galaxy to us.
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  It's two million light years away.
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  So when you look up and you see that little smudge in the sky of light, you're looking how it looked two million years ago before human beings even existed here on Earth.
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  Smudge in the sky of light.
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  You're looking how it looked two million years ago before human beings even existed here on Earth.
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  Uh that's what was going on.
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  That's what was going on.
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  So these distances are so huge.
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  So these distances are so huge.
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  You'd have to be able to warp time.
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  You'd have to be able to warp time.
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  You'd have to be able to warp space and gravity.
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  You'd have to be able to warp space and gravity, and maybe there are creatures that know how to do that.
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  And maybe there are creatures that know how to do that.
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  Maybe they've been we've been around, you know, what, a couple hundred thousand years.
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  Maybe they've been, we've been around, you know, what, a couple hundred thousand years.
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  Um look at the progress we've made since 1900 to where we are today, you know, going to outer space.
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  Look at the progress we've made since 1900 to where we are today, you know, going to outer space.
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  Uh we weren't even flying in 1900, right?
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  So the progress human beings have made in, let's say 150 years has eclipsed everything before it for the whole time we've been around.
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  What if there's creatures that have been around sentient, intelligent beings with technology growing like ours is, and they've been around for 500,000 years.
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  Maybe they've unlocked some of those secrets.
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  Maybe they can travel among the stars.
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  I don't know.
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  But we'll need to uh we'll need to talk about it maybe a little bit more in the program.
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  So one of the things that's happening close to home on the political front is we are seeing this whole um gamut of states who are gerrymandering their elections, their their election districts.
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  So we hear that word all the time.
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  Gerrymanding, gerrymandering, where does it come from?
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  Well, in 1812, in America, in 1812, not that long ago, um, you know, but okay.
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  1812, the governor of Massachusetts, Eldbridge, Elbridge Jerry, approved a state senate map with the districts that were shaped as they were described as like a salamander.
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  So basically, as the governor, he decided, hey, I want to get more of my political party uh elected so we have more control over the government, so therefore the election districts are going to be, you know, twisted and follow a river and then a creek and then a horse trail, and and it gets all his people uh into the district so that they can vote for for their candidates and he has more power.
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  So is that an appropriate thing to do?
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  Well, we're hearing about it a lot, right?
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  We're hearing about President Trump pressuring a lot of these red states to redistrict to gain more seats, because we're we're at basically a 50-50 split in our country between Republican and Democrat, and then all the breakdowns from there.
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  You know, conservatives, ultra-conservatives, uh, liberals, progressives, communists on the left, uh, and they there's this power uh for the politicians.
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  So I break it down in two ways.
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  First of all, there's a concern for power by the politicians, because first of all, power to them means money.
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  Let's let's be honest about it.
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  It means money uh per them for them personally, all right, for them personally.
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  I saw a thing, uh, Margaret Taylor Green.
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  She left the Congress recently.
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  She had a blow-up with uh President Trump.
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  They had a disagreement, and she said bad things about him, he said bad things about her, and he left.
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  Well, they just were reporting uh in the last couple of uh last couple of hours that she just sold her Georgia home for 1.7 million dollars, and she's buying a home in Costa Rica, Rica, Costa Rica, Costa Rica for uh over five million dollars.
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  Now, her salary as a congressperson is 175,000 a year.
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  How does she go and buy a five million dollar house?
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  How does she buy a million-dollar house, right?
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  I mean, on that kind of a salary.
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  Uh, and for all of you out there who are making that kind of money, can you go buy a five million dollar house anywhere?
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  You know what I mean?
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  Unless you have a bunch of money.
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  Now, I don't know her personal situation.
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  I don't know that she didn't inherit money, she didn't have a business.
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  I don't know what it is.
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  The article made it seem like she's doing this basically by using her congressional salary that she would have made in the last X amount of years.
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  Kind of like AOC, uh Miss uh AOC, you know who I'm talking about, a catch.
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  Oh, yeah, I always forget her full full name, Ocasio Cat Cortez, right?
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  Um this woman, she was in she was a bartender, a bartender in Queens, New York, uh making whatever a bartender makes, 50,000, 40,000, I don't know.
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  It depends on how much you work, I guess, in the tips.
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  She's in Congress for six years or seven years, and she's got 20 million dollars.
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  Now, for most of us, we sit here and we go, yeah, those politicians, that's right.
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  How is it she ends up with 20 million dollars in in just a very short period of time, making 175?
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  I used to talk about this when we talked about Joe Biden.
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  You know, here's a guy that's been a politician his whole life.
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  He's been a senator for 40 years, making, you know, less than 175, you know, for the first bunch of years.
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  Add it all up.
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  How does he get two beach houses in Delaware?
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  How does he have 25 million dollars in the bank?
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  And how does he have, you know, all these companies that don't make any products but shift millions of dollars around?
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  It's all corruption.
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  It's all corruption, and all of us, we sit there and we go, yeah, those politicians are corrupt.
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  And we don't do anything about it.
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  We keep voting for these same corrupt people.
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  And I find that really interesting.
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  But I was I was stepping away from the topic of gerrymandering because it's it's become big.
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  It's become a big uh tool for the political parties to use to maintain power, right?
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  So this Eldridge Jerry, who who did this, and that's where it's named after, um, gerrymandering, um, would be to draw these districts so that you include people who bel who believe the things you do, and they vote, and therefore you get a congressional representative who's on your side.
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  So Trump went to uh Texas and said, hey, you know, can you add any districts?
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  Uh you got enough people now.
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  How many people are moving to Texas and Florida and whatnot?
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  Can you um can you add can you add some more districts?
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  Can you change some districts?
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  Get rid of some Democrats and get more Republicans.
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  And the governor of Texas said, yeah, we could probably do that, and they did it.
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  And the courts have backed them up with what they did.
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  We saw the the same thing now in California.
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  Gav uh Gavin Newsom, uh, who wants to be your next president and destroy America like the other Democrats.
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  Um he came out and he said, Well, we're gonna redistrict in California, and they gained five seats for the Democrats.
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  Well, we're seeing this all over the country, this taking place in many of these red and blue states.
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  It's a fight to artificially manipulate the elections so that they gain power, right?
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  In we saw it in Virginia, uh Governor Spamberger, who was who who uh ran as a moderate Democrat, and the minute she got into office, went absolutely crazy left-wing socialist nut kind of a person.
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  Governor Spamberger, who was who uh ran as a moderate Democrat, and the minute she got into office, went absolutely crazy left-wing socialist nut kind of a person, uh, she just redistricted through her state to remove uh so many Republicans that they were it was down to one, ten to one.
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  Uh, she just redistricted through her state to remove so many Republicans that they were it was down to one, ten to one.
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  They were gonna have ten representatives uh of Democrats and only one Republican.
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  They were gonna have ten representatives uh of Democrats and only one Republican.
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  And the state Supreme Court of Virginia.
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  And the state Supreme Court of Virginia weighed in and said, No, you can't do that, you did it all wrong, so that doesn't count.
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  Well, how come it counts in Texas, but it doesn't count in Virginia?
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  It depends on how you do it.
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  There are ways to do things that are appropriate, that are fair.
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  Well, the people in Virginia voted for it, so therefore they should have it.
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  Sure, I you know, I I I agree.
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  The people whatever is not in the Constitution, and setting up congressional districts is not in the Constitution, it falls to the states.
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  State governments control the districts.
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  So I'm okay with people voting for that, but at the same time, while the people voted in the majority to do away with Republican representative representation because of the way the districts are gerrymandered, see how that works.
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  Uh the people in Virginia who are conservative, who are Republican, they are completely out of electoral representatives, except for one.
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  Right?
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  So all over the state of Virginia, wherever you live, uh you don't have representation if you're a conservative.
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  And that's that's what's not correct about it.
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  So that's what what so I wanted to go into that a little bit and talk about what how how this actually works.
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  Because I know a lot of people have asked me, I don't get it.
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  How do they just change districts?
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  Well, it is a state function, it's a function of the state.
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  So it's not a federal function to draw the um draw the lines of districts.
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  It's up to the states.
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  So they usually do this every ten years after the census.
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  So the idea is that depending on how many people you have in your state that determines how many representatives you get.
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  Now, every state gets two senators.
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  That doesn't change, right?
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  That doesn't change.
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  Um you get two, whether you're from Rhode Island or whether you're from California, you get two senators statewide.
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  But the House of Representatives is where a lot of power is.
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  You know, we think of the Senate as the super powerful group because they serve for six years, there's only two of them, they're very elite.
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  But the House of Representatives is 535 people, and they only serve for two years.
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  They're really nobodies.
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  And the reality is the power, the way the Constitution is set up and the founding fathers set it up, is that the House of Representatives is the people's house.
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  This is where they envision people leaving their jobs and serving for two years or four years to bring energy, uh, their community's point of view, and then go back home.
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  Well, that's been bastardized, and now we have these people that run for Congress, and every two years they run for their entire life.
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  They're there for 50 years.
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  Right?
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  It's uh it's not the way it was envisioned, but that's how it ends up working out, and that's the way it is.
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  So the after the census, and this is another reason now, if you understand that, that you're the number of representatives you get in the Congress, which can change the balance of power.
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  Right now, the Republicans only have, I think, five uh five more uh Congressmen than the Democrats do.
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  Therefore, the Republicans control the House of Representatives, which controls the purse, how money is spent, uh, what they do as far as many government things, who they if they choose to impeach or not impeach, they run all the committees that determine if they're going to investigate or what they're gonna do.
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  They it's a very powerful place, the House of Representatives.
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  And the Republicans are only ahead by five representatives.
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  So if you can add 15 or 20 to your party, you can take over and therefore you rule uh the House of Representatives, which is it's a lot of power and a lot of money and how things and how basically how our country's going to go.
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  So if we have mostly Republicans that run the House of Representatives, you're going to get a mostly traditional kind of America, a pro-American, pro-military, pro-law enforcement, uh, individual rights.
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  Uh you're going to get um rule of law, you're going to get all the things that we think of uh of America that brought us here.
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  If the Democrats take over, uh then you're gonna have Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
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  See, I I do remember her name now.
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  Uh, you're gonna see her with inordinate amount of power, uh, and then you're gonna see more progressive policies, left-wing policies, open border policies, defunding the police, cutting down on our military, uh, all these kind of things, you're gonna see socialist programs, you're gonna see communist kind of programs, because that's what the modern Democratic Party represents.
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  So if they are in charge, you they're already telling you that if they take the House in November, they're gonna impeach and jail President Trump.
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  Right?
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  This is what they this is this is their way of dealing with policy they don't like.
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  This is why they they're out there dancing around screaming and hollering about they're gonna save democracy from Trump.
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  In the meantime, they are the most fascist dictatorial group that we see out there.
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  We had these politicians uh that ran for prosecutorial office in many states, New York, one of them, uh, Georgia, uh, where they said, we're gonna get Trump.
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  If if you elect me, I'm gonna get him.
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  I don't know what he did, but I am going to get him.
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  And then when they got in, they did.
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  We we saw the uh, we saw the prosecutor in New York take a law that's on the books about financial records that's never been used uh the way that it was used against Trump to go get him.
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  She said she was gonna get him, and that be she's I'm gonna go find a crime and get him.
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  And that, my friends, is not how our system works.
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  That is how a totalitarian system works.
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  Uh, you know, in the in the communist world, the the uh socialist world, they say, give me a man and I'll find you a crime.
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  And that's not how it works in America.
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  If you commit a crime and get investigated, you're held to account.
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  We don't go looking to well, we're gonna charge him, we're gonna find some, and that's what they've done.
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  They've twisted the law.
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  They twisted it there, they twisted it down in Georgia, all over the place.
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  They've impeached him, they've arrested him, they've searched his house.
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  They've never done this ever to a president before.
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  It is our it's our friends on the left who are politically twisted that are twisting the law, twisting the constitution, ignoring the constitution in many cases, to go after a political enemy that they cannot beat at the ballot box.
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  It is our is our friends on the left who are politically twisted that are twisting the law, twisting the Constitution, ignoring the Constitution in many cases, to go after a political enemy that they cannot beat at the ballot box.
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  So, if you see the idea that if I change my districts and I can add more people uh to the Congress, I can sustain that power and hold you off, or I can get the power and go after you.
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  So if you see the idea that if I change my districts and I can add more people to the Congress, I can sustain that power and hold you off, or I can get the power and go after you.
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  So I'm not saying both sides don't do that.
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  They do.
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  Trump came after uh Texas and said, hey, see what you can do to add more seats because we can't have plus we have weak Republicans.
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  That's another problem for us.
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  Um we have weak Republicans that even though we have the majority, they will vote with the Democrats, they will vote anti-American stuff because they're not rock rib Republicans.
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  That's you know one of the problems all of us on the right understand very clearly.
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  Um but anyway, the the point being is that so Trump started it there, and then California, they added five to even that out, and then we saw Virginia try it, but they did it in the wrong way, and their own Supreme Court said no.
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  But you're seeing it in New York, you're seeing in other places.
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  We've just seen a Supreme Court case that came down that talked about the Voting Rights Act.
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  Now the voting rights act was put in place to make sure that minorities had voting rights and that they weren't kept from voting, and they they their voice meant something, right?
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  So the court just came out and said, you cannot gerrymander a district for racial purposes.
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  So once you take that away, all of these uh districts that were gerrymandered, mostly throughout the South, uh, to create pockets of um pockets of voters that would vote a w particular one way or the other, Republican or Democrat, but they did it on a racial basis.
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  The court says you can't do that.
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  Okay, so now we have to back up a little bit.
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  What is the place of the Supreme Court in all of this?
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  Well, it's very clear.
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  Um redistricting takes place traditionally every ten years, and that's the way it's always been.
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  After ten years, you do your uh census, tells you how many people are in your state, that tells you how many representatives you have.
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  Then your your governor and your legislature goes out, depending on who's in power, and they whack up the districts, maybe they move them, they change them, they gerrymander them to get the election results that they want.
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  Now that is that is perfectly fine.
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  It's not necessarily good for us, but it's okay, it's not illegal.
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  That's what they do.
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  They do gerrymandering.
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  Now the Supreme Court uh has made a ruling in 2019 that there's no place for the Supreme Supreme Court to uh step in when it comes to gerrymandering when it comes to uh districts that are set up with political bias.
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  So what they means you can twist it any way you want so that your state is all Republican, you can set it up so they're all Democrat.
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  That is perfectly fine.
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  The Supreme Court has nothing to say about that.
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  But they do say we do have uh an ability to step in when it involves racial issues, right?
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  Because racial issues are a national concern.
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  So you can step in.
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  That's why the court came up with this decision that said you can't make districts uh based on race, because that is in and of itself inappropriate.
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  So therefore, all of these districts that were created, mostly by Democrats, to ensure that minority uh voters had a candidate or candidates that were Democrat, uh basically, um, you can't do that.
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  So then that those those districts are uh removed and they have to redistrict, but it can't be on a racial basis.
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  And it's very powerful to do things on a racial basis.
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  You know, giving people power, giving communities power that feel they don't have it or they've been marginalized.
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  That to them feels very empowering, but it's really not what we should be doing in America.
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  We shouldn't be doing things based on race, right?
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  Uh so if it's wrong to take things away from people based on race, it's wrong to give things to people based on race.
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  That's pretty much what the court was saying there.
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  All right.
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  So what we're seeing is that because it's normally every ten years, uh, when you do your redistricting, we've seen it now at five years.
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  Well, there's nothing to stop a state from doing it five years.
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  Historically, they've done it at ten years, but now they're saying, no, we're gonna redistrict now.
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  It becomes it becomes a more powerful tool.
• 25:42
  Um, and this is why we're seeing the Biden administration and the Democrats had an open border.
• 25:49
  They had a wide open border because the number of representatives your state gets is not based on the number of Americans living in your district.
• 25:58
  It's based on all of the people living in your district, legal, illegal, American citizens, non-citizens, doesn't matter.
• 26:06
  So the more people you flood into the country and flood into places where you want to take control, political control, uh, you now have more representatives that these people you're thinking are going to vote for because you let them into the country.
• 26:22
  This is part of the problem, and this is why the Democrats are fighting so hard to prevent uh President Trump from removing illegal aliens, because it deletes, it uh dilutes their power.
• 26:36
  All right.
• 26:37
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  Back we are here in AmericaAut Loud.
• 30:30
  Alright, so if we understand that the number of representatives in the House of Representatives that each state gets depends on the population that they have.
• 30:41
  So it's based on the census numbers.
• 30:46
  So you can see why the census becomes politicized, right?
• 30:50
  Overcounting, adding numbers, because then you get more political power in your state, which means more money, more power for your politicians individually.
• 30:59
  See, and that's what I started to say in the beginning is that there's two ways that this involves.
• 31:03
  This involves the individual power for the politician who gets more money, more benefits, more good things, which is why they never leave office.
• 31:11
  And then the other side of it is for the people.
• 31:15
  Now, we the people are good and decent people on both sides of the aisle.
• 31:22
  I'm going to tell you that.
• 31:24
  And we can be manipulated very easily through emotions.
• 31:28
  And especially our friends on the left are easily manipulated by emotions.
• 31:33
  And that's why they go to these crazy cults.
• 31:36
  You know, uh, they go into these, you know, anti-this, anti-that, they go out in the street and they fight ice, and because they're they're looking for something of meaning in their life.
• 31:46
  Uh, our lives uh when we remove religion, when we remove duty to a country, duty to each other, uh, traditional roles of what made the country great, and we're all looking uh for personal greatness, and instead of looking for uh duty and how we can be good to the other people in our country and do what's right, when we simply seek for uh our own advantage, we look to find meaning in our lives.
• 32:18
  And that meaning in our life for some people can come in the form of a cause.
• 32:23
  Okay, we're gonna protect the illegal immigrants that are here.
• 32:27
  And you see people out in the streets, you see people fighting with law enforcement, you see governors and mayors refusing to follow the law because they're they're virtue signaling.
• 32:38
  We're gonna protect our community.
• 32:40
  They're not your community, they're illegal people who came here and were filtered into your community.
• 32:46
  But the politicians are using it as a tool to gain power, and they're uh they're covering it with this emotional, we're protecting people.
• 32:57
  Meantime, we're doing wrong by the law.
• 32:59
  We're doing wrong by really the majority of our citizens by having millions and millions of people here illegally.
• 33:05
  It changes our political landscape, which changes the laws, which changes the direction the country takes, which causes problems for you and me in our living rooms.
• 33:17
  And this is how we get played.
• 33:19
  Now, mostly people on the left get played because they're very emotional, they think emotionally mostly, and I'm I'm painting with a broad brush here, I know, but we've seen this.
• 33:28
  We've seen liberal progressives are very emotionally charged about things where um conservatives have a tendency to think more uh in a more masculine way, which is logic and reason and think it through, and then make a decision.
• 33:45
  As opposed to on the left, the left is very feminized, and they're very emotional, right?
• 33:50
  And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that.
• 33:52
  That's how we were set up as as individuals, but this is this is where we've seen this mess of our country because of this.
• 34:00
  All right, so understanding gerrymandering.
• 34:04
  It's been going on for a long time.
• 34:06
  Every 10 years, you take a census population, which is why you want to flood your country and your states with people, because the number of people, bodies, not just Americans is determines how many people will be uh in power in your state.
• 34:20
  So they've been doing that.
• 34:22
  Now, some places have used um have used bipartisan commissions.
• 34:28
  California has a bipartisan commission to set up what they should do.
• 34:32
  But that's all political too.
• 34:34
  That is another subterfuge to make it look like the party in power is not doing the wrong thing.
• 34:38
  We have a commission that looks at things, right?
• 34:41
  Um kind of crazy.
• 34:43
  All right, so how gerrymandering actually works.
• 34:46
  There's two terms.
• 34:48
  There's two terms out there that are used.
• 34:50
  It's called cracking and packing.
• 34:54
  And it allows map drawers to uh predetermine outcomes.
• 34:58
  Right?
• 34:58
  You gotta remember when it comes to statistics uh and looking at statistics as a science, there are things you can look at.
• 35:00
  When it comes to statistics and looking at statistics as a science, there are things you can look at.
• 35:06
  You can look at history and you can see how things are going to work out in the long run, and that can determine uh what's going to happen.
• 35:06
  You can look at history and you can see how things are going to work out in the long run, and that can determine what's going to happen.
• 35:13
  So in cracking, the term cracking is used to splitting a voting block across multiple districts to dilute its influence.
• 35:13
  So in cracking, the term cracking is used to splitting a voting block across multiple districts to dilute its influence.
• 35:22
  So if you have a district of, let's say Italians, people who are of Italian background and they they stick together and they vote very strongly.
• 35:22
  So if you have a district of, let's say Italians, people who are of Italian background, and they they stick together and they vote very strongly for Democrats, let's say.
• 35:32
  Okay.
• 35:33
  They vote very strongly for Democrats, and there's lots and lots of people of Italian uh heritage, and they're all going to vote for the Democrat, and the Democrats are going to win.
• 35:41
  Well, if you if you are the Republican and you're drawing the district, what you want to do is now split that neighborhood up, right?
• 35:49
  So First Street to Third Street is now in the second voting district, and Fourth to Eighth Avenue is in the fifth.
• 35:56
  So you split up that voting block so that they don't have the same power that they had to elect uh someone you're opposed to.
• 36:05
  So that's called cracking.
• 36:06
  You crack up the power base.
• 36:08
  Well, we're seeing this with the Supreme Court decision where where uh districts were made up based on racial basis, because the majority of the African Americans in our country vote Democrat.
• 36:20
  So these leaders in these different states tried they twisted the lines to make black districts so that they know all the votes in that district are going to go predominantly to the Democrat candidate.
• 36:33
  Well, the court says you can't make a district based on race, so therefore that's gone.
• 36:39
  So now you don't have those particular seats, you don't have that power.
• 36:42
  So that's cracking.
• 36:44
  Packing is concentrating the opposing party's voters into small numbers of districts so that they waste their votes.
• 36:51
  Same thing.
• 36:52
  You crack them up now, you're packing them into districts where okay, maybe you had uh say a hundred thousand African Americans in a district in Georgia, and they voted for the Democrat 90% of the time, which is about correct.
• 37:05
  That's even nationally we see that, right?
• 37:07
  They make a big deal out of Trump, he got 70% of the African American vote.
• 37:11
  That's huge, right?
• 37:12
  For a Republican.
• 37:14
  So say you have this.
• 37:15
  Now you take those hundred thousand votes and you split the area where these people live so that 10% goes to districts, 10%, 10%.
• 37:25
  Well, that 10% is not going to change the vote of the majority district that votes Republican or Democrat, whichever way it goes here.
• 37:32
  I'm not saying it's just a Republican.
• 37:33
  That's how Democrats do it too.
• 37:35
  All right, so this method allows a party to win more seats than their share of the vote would normally allow.
• 37:42
  Sorry, the pollen here is still really bad.
• 37:46
  I so cracking and packing, it's a way of artificially twisting things so that the result comes out the way you want.
• 37:55
  And it can be very accurate, it can be very precise.
• 37:57
  You can figure out by whacking up certain districts and moving certain groups of voters into different districts, you can change the way the election comes out.
• 38:08
  It's very, very uh very precise.
• 38:12
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• 38:18
  All right.
• 38:19
  I wish I had like a cough button, I would push it for you, but I don't have one.
• 38:23
  All right.
• 38:24
  So gerrymandering is back now.
• 38:26
  The 2019 court decision said that you know you can't do it by racial politics.
• 38:31
  You just can't do that anymore.
• 38:33
  So therefore, a lot of these districts uh that elected uh uh people to Congress based on their affinity to a group.
• 38:43
  Um you can't have that.
• 38:44
  So therefore that's gone, and now you might lose that seat.
• 38:48
  Okay, we might lose some seats.
• 38:50
  Um mid decade redistricting.
• 38:53
  Traditionally, it's been done, you know, uh every ten years.
• 38:58
  But now we're seeing places like Texas, California, Florida redrawing mid-cycle, halfway through, going, you know what, we want to take a look and look at this.
• 39:07
  And there's nothing anybody can do about it.
• 39:09
  You can certainly do it.
• 39:10
  Um hyper competitive national politics.
• 39:15
  What's the reason behind this?
• 39:16
  Because look at how look at how we are losing our minds.
• 39:19
  What are what do our friends on the left say all the time?
• 39:22
  Um Hakeem Jeffers, the speaker of the the minority, speaker of the House, um, for the minority, the Democrats, they're they're in the minority.
• 39:31
  Um, he says, you know what?
• 39:32
  If we get in power, we are going to pack the Supreme Court with Democrats, so they vote the way we want.
• 39:40
  Is that correct?
• 39:41
  Is that the right thing to do?
• 39:42
  You pack the court, you know.
• 39:44
  Um FDR did that back in the day.
• 39:47
  He wanted to do a lot of things to change the the economic situation of the country.
• 39:51
  He was president for four terms, although he died in his fourth term, which is the reason now we have president's term limited because too much power in one person's hands is corrupting.
• 40:02
  Uh so they changed that so you can only have two terms uh as the president, but he had four.
• 40:08
  He was elected to a fourth term, and he wanted to do a lot of socialist programs that he thought would use the power of the government to restart the economy, help people in this and that.
• 40:18
  Um I'm sure he thought it was good stuff, but it led to a lot of the problems we have today over time because you can't socialize your politics because socialism does not work.
• 40:29
  It's it's unnatural, it's not the way people function, it's not what human nature dictates.
• 40:35
  But anyway, he did that.
• 40:37
  Um, and he he wanted to pack the court.
• 40:41
  He figured, okay, if the Supreme Court's gonna decide that my policies are unconstitutional, then I will just get a bunch of partisan judges and I will put them on the Supreme Court and they'll vote the way I want, and I'll get everything I want.
• 40:55
  Is that what you really want?
• 40:56
  I mean, look at how people lose their minds now that we have a conservative court.
• 41:01
  Well, we had uh Trump came in, a lot of judges left, he replaced uh liberals with conservatives, and now a lot of the decisions that are coming out are more um traditional uh pro-American decisions.
• 41:17
  They are not left-wing.
• 41:20
  We're not going for the left-wing progressiveness.
• 41:22
  The courts are striking down a lot of woke policy across the country.
• 41:27
  And our friends on the left are out of their minds.
• 41:29
  So their answer to that, instead of making a case for their policy for their uh their policies and what they think is right and letting the people decide, they say, well, we'll just pack the court with people that think like we do, and therefore that'll overturn all this Republican stuff and they'll support all this uh progressive Pablum that we come out with.
• 41:49
  This is inappropriate.
• 41:50
  This is this is twisting, it's an unnatural twisting of the will of the people, just like gerrymandering is.
• 41:59
  Now, I I am loath to identify a problem without offering a solution, because that's what a lot of people do.
• 42:01
  I am loath to identify a problem without offering a solution, because that's what a lot of people do.
• 42:08
  They run their mouths, they complain, complain, complain, but then they can't give an answer of what they should do.
• 42:08
  They run their mouths, they complain, complain, complain, but then they can't give an answer of what they should do.
• 42:14
  So if we think of a city, and a modern city, think of a modern city where the uh people who created the city or were building the city decided to build it in grids.
• 42:14
  So if we think of a city, and a modern city, think of a modern city where the uh people who created the city or were building the city decided to build it in grids.
• 42:26
  The street map was into grids so that you could have.
• 42:26
  The street map was into grids so that you could have the flow of traffic, the flow of commerce, you could have uh easy access across the city, you could move around.
• 42:36
  So if you think of Lower Manhattan, the crisscrossing of of the different streets and and whatnot, but everything north of there of that area is built in a grid, and it was gridded out all the way through through the top of the uh of the city of Manhattan Island.
• 42:52
  It was done for a particular reason, but prior to that, it was, you know, horse paths.
• 42:57
  Uh Broadway is basically a horse path uh that it got paved over when as the city grew and became a main road.
• 43:04
  Division Street was where things were divided, right?
• 43:08
  Very, very simple kind of things, but a grid, if you think of a grid, a grid is very efficient.
• 43:14
  You can plan.
• 43:16
  There's there's specific order to everything you're doing.
• 43:19
  Well, wouldn't it be best to create congressional districts based on a grid pattern?
• 43:27
  First through Fourth Street by uh A Street to D Street, that is district number one.
• 43:35
  And whoever's in there, lives there, they're gonna vote in district number one and pick their representative.
• 43:40
  And you do that across the entire city or the state, right?
• 43:44
  You do it in a grid pattern and you let people vote for what they want.
• 43:48
  Now, I know a lot of you right now are saying, okay, well, then that's gonna lead to um maybe some populations in a state or a city not being represented.
• 43:59
  And that this is where gerrymandering, you know, they're trying to do it for political reasons, but this is why racial districts were drawn so that people who traditionally didn't have a voice, now they have a representative.
• 44:12
  So you look at that and you say, is that really a bad thing?
• 44:15
  Should people be should people have no representation?
• 44:19
  Well, the representation, in my opinion, shouldn't be based on race, religion, creed, or anything.
• 44:25
  It should be based on your political beliefs.
• 44:27
  Your political beliefs.
• 44:29
  Are you a conservative or are you a progressive?
• 44:32
  So you don't matter who you are, you vote for the candidate that's going to do the policies that you want, as opposed to doing it racially, which the court said you can't do is wrong.
• 44:43
  So could we grid up all of these districts and set them in stone?
• 44:48
  If you move to 8th Avenue and A Street, you're in the third district.
• 44:52
  That's it.
• 44:53
  The district doesn't change every four weeks and go, well, half half of A Street, uh, three quarters of Eighth Avenue, it'll turn left at 7th Avenue, then it'll go down to W Street, and that's a district.
• 45:05
  Well, those are drawn to get a specific result for the power of those who are in power.
• 45:11
  And I think that's um that's incorrect.
• 45:14
  All right, so what are we gonna see?
• 45:16
  Are we gonna see more of this?
• 45:17
  I think we probably are.
• 45:19
  Um, because it it allows people in power to maintain their power, right?
• 45:28
  It allows people in power to maintain their power.
• 45:30
  Human nature wise, how does that work out?
• 45:33
  Aren't people always looking to enhance their their own position?
• 45:37
  How many people out there really say, let's just do what's right, as opposed to in their own self-interest.
• 45:45
  Hey, no, uh, I am a uh left-wing nut and I believe in all this left-wing nut stuff, so therefore I don't care how we twist the maps, as long as we get to do left-wing nut stuff, right?
• 45:58
  Is that correct?
• 45:59
  It's not correct, whether it's on the right or on the left.
• 46:02
  Have a vote.
• 46:03
  You know, uh one person, one vote.
• 46:06
  And somebody has to come up with good ideas.
• 46:09
  And you vote for the ideas, right?
• 46:12
  As opposed to voting for uh other other factors.
• 46:16
  That's just the way I see it.
• 46:17
  All right, that's just the way I see it.
• 46:19
  So I think the maps are a mess.
• 46:21
  I think gerrymandering is going to continue.
• 46:24
  I think when they remove these racial uh districts, I think they said this might increase Republican districts uh by five, six, seven, maybe even as much as ten seats when they overturn some of these things throughout many, many states.
• 46:39
  Uh there's a meme on social media of a map that shows you all the red across the state across the south, and then these blue districts that are represented by Democrats, and you see Donald Trump with a red spray can going, hey, since the court said you can't have racial districts, all these districts are going to vote now Republican, and we're gonna have uh, you know, 10, maybe 10 or 15 more seats to give us the um inoculation from weak Republicans and to overcome the Democrats.
• 47:10
  So I don't think it's gonna stop.
• 47:12
  I think it's gonna continue.
• 47:14
  Um is it good or bad?
• 47:16
  Of course, I don't think it's good to do it, it would be better to have a grid map, and I and I said that.
• 47:22
  Um if the Supreme Court has declared that they don't have a lot of power over your state's maps, other than if it's a racial thing, or if you violated your own law.
• 47:36
  You know, you can you can go to the court and say, hey, here's the law, and these people are violating it, and the court can look at it and say, yeah, you violated your own law, and they can overturn something.
• 47:45
  But you see a lot of these politicians, we're gonna go to the Supreme Court and have them overturn this, this horrible thing, this that and the other thing.
• 47:52
  Why do they say that?
• 47:54
  Well, a lot of it is um it's political theater.
• 47:59
  It's uh for people to show, I'm I'm gonna uh fight back, I'm gonna fight to the end, uh, or they're gonna, the courts are against us.
• 48:07
  This Republican court is just, they just hate people and they're gonna do whatever Trump says because they're beholden to Trump or whatever.
• 48:14
  Um, or we'll get justice at the highest level.
• 48:17
  Politicians are a lot of windbags.
• 48:20
  You know, they will say and do things uh to virtue signal to for people to, and that's why we can't trust them, right?
• 48:29
  They don't say what's really on their mind.
• 48:31
  You know, I pick on Democrats a lot because I don't agree with Democrat policy.
• 48:36
  You know, both sides uh of the aisle have liars, people that lie, uh, that don't do good things, that are not good people, but the policies are what I focus on.
• 48:48
  Right?
• 48:48
  Um and I've said this to you many, many times.
• 48:52
  Um Barack Obama was the president of the United States.
• 48:56
  I thought he seemed like uh he'd probably be a fun guy to have a beer with, he seems like a good husband, he seems like a good father.
• 49:00
  Beer with, he seems like a good husband, he seems like a good father.
• 49:03
  His policies are horrific for the country.
• 49:03
  His policies are horrific for the country.
• 49:06
  They're horrific for everybody, and therefore I'm against him.
• 49:06
  They're horrific for everybody, and therefore I'm against him.
• 49:09
  Not against him because he's black.
• 49:09
  Not against him because he's black, I could care less.
• 49:11
  I could care less.
• 49:12
  Or can't haven't we all moved on beyond that kind of nonsense?
• 49:12
  Or can't haven't we all moved on beyond that kind of nonsense?
• 49:16
  Somebody's race, who cares?
• 49:16
  Somebody's race, who cares?
• 49:17
  There are a lot of great African American Republicans that I think are amazing, not because they're African American Republicans, but because they're Republicans and their policies and the way they think is something I agree with, right?
• 49:17
  There are a lot of great African American Republicans that I think are amazing, not because they're African American Republicans, but because they're Republicans and their policies and the way they think is something I agree with, right?
• 49:30
  So when we when we look at this, these politicians come out there and they say things to influence you, uh, and they say things to uh basically to hold their side of power, which is beneficial to them because they all end up with millions and millions of dollars, right?
• 49:49
  You don't end up with millions and millions of dollars, you end up paying more.
• 49:54
  So I I didn't want to go into politics here on my pages of outrages.
• 49:59
  Um we covered a lot of this, and I'm I'm glad I did, because I know a lot, like I said, a lot of people reached out to me and said they didn't understand gerrymandering, so I thought I would explain it.
• 50:13
  All right, so there we go.
• 50:15
  All right, so there's all this there's talk out there.
• 50:19
  There's a lot of talk out there that Jeffrey Epstein.
• 50:22
  Um Jeffrey Epstein left a suicide note, and what can we glean from a suicide now?
• 50:29
  Well, I've been a criminal investigator for 30 years.
• 50:32
  I've investigated dozens and dozens of suicides.
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  And you don't always get a note.
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  Some people don't leave a note, they don't think to leave a note, they're not in the right mental frame.
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  Sometimes to write down what they're feeling.
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  Sometimes people do.
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  They write down a note to explain to their loved ones, their family and their friends why they did what they did.
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  Sometimes uh the explanation seems very cold and logical.
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  You know, uh, hey, listen, I lost my job, uh, I lost all of our funds, and I can't have uh my wife and children have their house taken away and this that and I have a big insurance policy that allows for suicide, so I'm gonna take my life because I'm better off dead than alive, and they'll have money and they can survive, and I'm sacrificing myself for my family, right?
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  And then other people will go on there and complain about somebody did something to them, made them feel terrible, and they decided to, you know, my my way out is to kill myself because of what you've done to me.
• 51:36
  So we're hearing about this note now because we have to admit the politicians on the left want to hang Epstein as a pedophile around Donald Trump.
• 51:49
  They want they want Donald Trump to be a pedophile.
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  And since he had an association with Epstein, he must be a pedophile because we know Trump's a pedophile.
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  They just know it in their heart.
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  But there's no evidence of it.
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  Matter of fact, there's controverts there's uh evidence that shows the opposite, right?
• 52:06
  When Trump found out that uh Epstein uh molested a girl, an underage girl at Mar-a-Lago or that worked at Mar-a-Lago, he went to the police.
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  Trump went to the police and said this is a bad guy, and then threw him out of the club.
• 52:20
  Okay.
• 52:21
  Um, but people are so so tied to this, they're looking for anything that says, hey, Trump did a lot.
• 52:29
  Trump was mentioned 13,000 times in the Epstein files, and you try to explain to them.
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  Trump is a famous person.
• 52:36
  Uh, he was associated with Epstein because they were in the same billionaires club in South Florida.
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  They're involved in the same groups, they got involved in the same uh political things that went on down there.
• 52:48
  Every time an email that had Trump's name in it, that counts as a time.
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  Uh if somebody mentioned, oh, Trump's having a thing at Mar-a-Lago, that's another time.
• 52:58
  I have said from the very beginning of this.
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  I've investigated uh pedophiles, I've investigated uh sexual assault people.
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  If Trump assaulted children, then he should be held accountable, locked up and sent away, because that is a horrific crime.
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  But the reality is there is no proof that Trump did that ever.
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  He simply knew Epstein and he was mentioned a lot in the files.
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  Because if he was on the news, if somebody talked about Trump being in the news, that's another time.
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  Trump was mentioned.
• 53:29
  So the Democrats had access to all of these files for four years.
• 53:36
  And don't you think, and I know it's been said, so I'm repeating it, that Joe Biden and his DOJ that went after Trump for every possible thing they could have made up, that if they had some real proof, if they had some real victims that are saying in there, Trump raped me when I was 10 years old.
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  Don't you think they would have brought that out?
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  It's common sense.
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  Of course they would have brought it out.
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  But there is none of that.
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  There's just Trump mentions in there.
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  People talking about Trump is a mention in the Epstein files.
• 54:05
  You know, they have all of these victims, and I stand with the victims if they were victimized.
• 54:12
  All of these victims, none of them have come forward and said Donald Trump did anything to me.
• 54:16
  They said the prince did some stuff, right?
• 54:19
  And we saw the prince suffered some consequences.
• 54:21
  We have pictures that had to be faked up by the media.
• 54:26
  They are so hot to go after Trump.
• 54:28
  They took a picture of Trump with a bunch of these uh young women, and they blocked their faces out and said, look at Trump with all these young girls.
• 54:37
  And then it was revealed that all those young girls were adults, they were all models, and they were at a party.
• 54:43
  But the press, the reporters specifically blocked out their faces so they could insinuate that they were young girls, and Trump was taking advantage of them.
• 54:55
  Uh so it when you have corruption like that, you can't believe a word out of their mouths, right?
• 55:01
  And I go back to it every single time.
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  We have these uh victims.
• 55:07
  If they come forward and they point at him and have proof, all right, well, then okay, then you gotta charge him, right?
• 55:13
  You gotta investigate it and charge him.
• 55:15
  But we have pictures of Bill Clinton in a hot tub with a young girl, and we'll we ignore that.
• 55:22
  Ignore that.
• 55:22
  Bill Gates, there's stuff about Bill Gates in there.
• 55:24
  I don't know exactly what, but they talk about Bill Gates being mentioned a thousand times.
• 55:28
  But we don't talk about him because he's a Democrat.
• 55:30
  We don't talk about Bill Clinton, even though we know what Bill Clinton's history was like.
• 55:34
  But Trump, we're gonna tie it around his neck.
• 55:37
  So the problem with the Epstein um note is that it was found in a book by his roommate in his jailmate, a jail cell mate, um, and it was from weeks before he died.
• 55:51
  It has not been authenticated, and in fact, his family says they don't believe that it's real.
• 55:57
  But it's just another thing that they're trying on the left.
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  They're trying on the left.
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  And this is where corruption, uh you why do you think you can't believe the news?
• 56:01
  And this is where corruption.
• 56:03
  Uh, you why do you think you can't believe the news?
• 56:06
  Why do you think there's people listening to me right now?
• 56:06
  Why do you think there's people listening to me right now?
• 56:08
  They're gonna email me and tell me, I know you're protecting a pedophile, Trump.
• 56:08
  They're gonna email me and tell me, I know you're protecting a pedophile, Trump.
• 56:13
  You and I'll say, okay, well, where's the proof?
• 56:13
  You and I'll say, okay, well, where's the proof?
• 56:16
  What proof?
• 56:16
  What proof?
• 56:16
  Because I just know it.
• 56:16
  Because I just know it.
• 56:18
  I just know it.
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  I just know it.
• 56:19
  Well, just saying you know it doesn't mean anything.
• 56:19
  Well, justin just saying you know it doesn't mean anything.
• 56:22
  People could say, hey, listen, Harry Jones, you know, one of them listeners to Joe's show, uh, he's a pedophile.
• 56:22
  People could say, hey, listen, Harry Jones, you know, one of them listeners to to Joe's show, uh, he's a pedophile.
• 56:28
  Well, where's your proof?
• 56:28
  Well, where's your proof?
• 56:30
  I just know it, and they should lock you up.
• 56:33
  We have to be we have to be smart.
• 56:35
  We have to be smart and be honest and be fair.
• 56:39
  Just because you want to get somebody doesn't mean you can lie about it.
• 56:44
  If they find proof, I'll be the first one to say lock them up.
• 56:49
  But I don't see any proof.
• 56:51
  All right, my friends, we covered a lot of stuff.
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  We'll be back again uh tomorrow, very, very soon, and I have a lot more things to cover.
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  Remember, be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem.