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Are Black Men Hard To Love? - Is Black Love Becoming A Competition? · So Shameless

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: That was that bad?
• 0:03
  Speaker 2: So, actually, Reg started the racism because why you have
• 0:06
  Speaker 2: to identify as being Asian anyway? You know what I mean?
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: You know what? Welcome back to part two of this
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: week's episode. Oh, my gosh. Reg, you are.
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: You're hilarious.
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  Speaker 4: Yo, this is dumb fun.
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: I can't tell. You don't laugh.
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: Huh?
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: Do you laugh? Yeah, I laugh inside. You laugh inside?
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I'd be trying to contain my emotions. It'd be too much.
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  Speaker 4: It'd be too much emotion.
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  Speaker 1: No, he laughs through him.
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  Speaker 3: He projects his laugh to this nigga.
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: Because this nigga's weak.
• 0:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I bring Jimmy with me. That's where
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  Speaker 4: all the laughs is. That nigga projects all the emotions.
• 0:53
  Speaker 4: That's elite, yeah. That's the hell is shit. Sidebar, shout
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  Speaker 4: out to Jimmy.
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  Speaker 5: How much do you get paid?
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  Speaker 2: Like $ 12.
• 1:00
  Speaker 5: I need somebody like you. And I'm dead ass.
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  Speaker 4: I need that.
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  Speaker 6: First of all, Jimmy's worth any amount of money niggas
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  Speaker 6: is investing in Jimmy. He's OD talented. He's a journalist.
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  Speaker 6: He's a photographer. He's also a music artist, which is
• 1:14
  Speaker 6: first and foremost. But everything else, in terms of photography
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  Speaker 6: and everything else, he shoots pillars for us.
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  Speaker 4: Son, just OD talented. And he's a solid person.
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  Speaker 5: I can tell he's a solid person. That I knew.
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  Speaker 1: Ken, Ken.
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  Speaker 4: Shout out to you.
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  Speaker 1: He's your Trump. My what? Don't even worry about it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because you're definitely the villain.
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  Speaker 4: That's my friend.
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  Speaker 5: He's the good guy.
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  Speaker 4: That's my friend.
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  Speaker 1: You get it. You get it. Jimmy got it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a villain.
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  Speaker 1: You're a villain?
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  Speaker 5: For sure, the villain.
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  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Between the two of you, you're the villain. Okay, we
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  Speaker 1: don't have much time.
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  Speaker 4: I don't be leaving my crib, though. I be in
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  Speaker 4: the house.
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  Speaker 1: But you laugh on the inside.
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  Speaker 4: I don't be going on dolo vacations.
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  Speaker 5: I do.
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  Speaker 4: See? I don't know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: I am also the villain.
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  Speaker 1: It's fine.
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  Speaker 3: Last episode. Matter of fact, we are back. Shout out
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  Speaker 3: to everybody. I hope you guys are enjoying... Today's, you know,
• 2:00
  Speaker 3: last week we was a lot more serious. We was
• 2:02
  Speaker 3: talking about mental health and shit. I posted something today.
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  Speaker 3: She got no comments.
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  Speaker 1: No shit. It's like, nobody gives a fuck. Like, where's
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  Speaker 1: the shit? Damn. Damn, that's harsh. Shout out to Kizzle
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  Speaker 1: and Madam. Might be, this is going to be a
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  Speaker 1: triggering segment right now.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just letting you know because I'm bringing up the
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  Speaker 3: Cornell 7 and there's a lot there are. shifts in
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  Speaker 3: public perception when it comes to this case. The Cornell
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  Speaker 3: 7 is about a young lady that was sexually assaulted
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  Speaker 3: in 2024, I believe.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's 23 or 24, but same shit.
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  Speaker 3: Something like that. She went to the police. I guess
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  Speaker 3: we got to tell what happened. I guess we got
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  Speaker 3: to say what happened.
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  Speaker 1: Taze, are you good? I'm just asking a question. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want no problems in here today. Are you good?
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  Speaker 1: Is it okay if I say what happened?
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: She was a minor in 2024.
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  Speaker 5: I did not know that part.
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  Speaker 1: She was a minor.
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  Speaker 3: She was a part of a sorority. The sorority had
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  Speaker 3: a gathering at a bar. They let her come to
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  Speaker 3: the bar. When they went to the bar, The bartenders
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  Speaker 3: or the security put X's on the back of her
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  Speaker 3: hands so that they knew that she could not drink.
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  Speaker 3: She's still drunk. She then left that bar and went
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  Speaker 3: to the frat house.
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  Speaker 1: I believe it was a frat house. Yes, it was
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  Speaker 1: a frat house. A friend, quote unquote, friend is what
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  Speaker 1: she identified him as.
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  Speaker 3: When they got there, I believe they said she took,
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  Speaker 3: she told the police that she was a five out
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  Speaker 3: of 10 when it comes to inebriation. I believe she
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  Speaker 3: took a shot at the frat house, said she wasn't crazy,
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  Speaker 3: wasn't crazy drunk. She engaged in like dancing, flirting with
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  Speaker 3: the guy she came there to see. And he asked her,
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  Speaker 3: you want to go upstairs and have a threesome with
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  Speaker 3: me and my homeboy? She agreed and said, When asked
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  Speaker 3: why she agreed, because she thought it would impress the
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  Speaker 3: dude that she liked. Reg, let me know if I'm
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  Speaker 3: off of anything that you remember.
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  Speaker 4: No, so far, so good.
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  Speaker 6: I think even prior to her pulling up to... The
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  Speaker 6: way I heard it, prior to her pulling up to
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  Speaker 6: the frat house, she already agreed to... That threesome and
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  Speaker 6: then I think another threesome.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't hear that. So let's leave that to the side.
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  Speaker 3: Just because I'm not sure about that.
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  Speaker 1: And you're not emphatically sure about that.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't hear about that party.
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  Speaker 4: No, she agreed to two threesomes.
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  Speaker 1: But I believe that happened in the spot. Okay, okay, bet. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So as you can tell, there's multiple threesomes. She goes upstairs.
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  Speaker 3: She starts to engage with the two guys. The initial guy,
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  Speaker 3: he goes to sleep. join the threesome and she's just
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  Speaker 3: engaging with the other guy and other guys start coming
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  Speaker 3: in the room as they come in the room she's
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  Speaker 3: saying you know they're trying to engage with her she
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  Speaker 3: says no they stop and I'm not trying to say
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  Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not trying to prove culpability or not
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  Speaker 3: prove culpability please don't take the way I'm talking as
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  Speaker 3: that I'm trying to lead anybody any type of way
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  Speaker 3: I'm just this is just how I talk right um
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  Speaker 3: And I also want this conversation to be fair to
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people who haven't heard anything.
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  Speaker 1: So whatever. Or just you, Tron.
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  Speaker 3: When she tells the one guy, no, I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to engage, he stops and then asks, they offer her ketamine.
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  Speaker 3: She sniffs the ketamine off the nigga's dick.
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  Speaker 1: This is a fact. This is a fact.
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  Speaker 3: She sniffs the ketamine off his dick and then him
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  Speaker 3: The ketamine guy and another guy ask if they can
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  Speaker 3: sniff ketamine off her naked body.
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  Speaker 1: She agrees.
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  Speaker 3: They all start to have sex. This is the second threesome.
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  Speaker 3: The initial guy is still asleep. He leaves out when
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  Speaker 3: he wakes up. And so now she's having a threesome
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  Speaker 3: with two other guys in the room. At some point,
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  Speaker 3: she told him, oh, I'm tired or something else.
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  Speaker 1: They stopped.
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  Speaker 3: They went somewhere else, did more ketamine, more sexual acts happened.
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  Speaker 3: And at some point at around 5.30, oh, and then
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  Speaker 3: I believe the initial guy or somebody else, me that
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  Speaker 3: made it, came in and joined or said, yo, stop.
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  Speaker 3: I don't actually know the ending part, but at some
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  Speaker 3: point she left. And I don't know at what point
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  Speaker 3: she felt she was under distress.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying anything as far as my opinion. I
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  Speaker 3: just don't know how she went from leaving To go
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  Speaker 3: to the police station. That's just where I just, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. But she did. She spoke to the police
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  Speaker 3: about it being sexual. No, the next day, as a
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  Speaker 3: matter of fact, I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 1: She texted one of them.
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  Speaker 3: The next day, the dude that she initially went with, she.
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  Speaker 1: Was like, yo, that was fun last night.
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  Speaker 3: Love to smoke and drink with you again later or
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  Speaker 3: drink with you again later. Can we do that without
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  Speaker 3: the 8 billion other dudes, though? So, you know, she
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  Speaker 3: was willing to go back, not saying that means anything.
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  Speaker 3: This is just part of the case. And at some point,
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  Speaker 3: we've seen now that there was like a Snapchat group
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  Speaker 3: with all the frat guys in it where they was.
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  Speaker 1: Like, yo, it's free pussy upstairs.
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  Speaker 3: And that's how all of the guys started filing in
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  Speaker 3: and out of the room to assault her.
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  Speaker 1: The Internet was bothered.
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  Speaker 3: That the police did not file charges against these guys
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  Speaker 3: in 2024.
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  Speaker 1: Instead, Cornell made.
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  Speaker 3: Expelled to, suspended to, and made the others write essays
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  Speaker 3: as to why this behavior was not good.
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  Speaker 1: Please let me know, Reg, if.
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  Speaker 4: Was she a minor? I wasn't sure if she was
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  Speaker 4: a minor.
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  Speaker 1: She was a minor. She was definitely a minor. Absolutely
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  Speaker 1: a minor.
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  Speaker 6: So the one thing... when the DA was engaging in, like,
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  Speaker 6: you know, questioning, people were like, well, when you guys
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  Speaker 6: heard about this, why didn't you engage? In New York State,
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  Speaker 6: in regards to, like, anything under the influence, legally, if
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  Speaker 6: you consented to taking the drugs or drinking the alcohol
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  Speaker 6: or whatever, they're basically saying that you weren't, like, You're basically...
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  Speaker 6: You could still consent even though you're under the influence
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  Speaker 6: because you chose to be under the influence from a
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  Speaker 6: legal perspective. Now, you could say whether the law is
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  Speaker 6: cool or you don't agree with it, you don't disagree
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  Speaker 6: with it, but that's what they're saying. You took the ketamine,
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  Speaker 6: you were snorting it, so you signed off on everything
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  Speaker 6: that happened after that.
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  Speaker 4: That's what they're saying legally.
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  Speaker 6: She didn't initially, according to what I read, she didn't
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  Speaker 6: initially say she was passed out when she text Sun
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  Speaker 6: the next day, like, you know, you're right about that.
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  Speaker 6: She was pretty much like, I want to run it back.
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  Speaker 6: Just don't bring the rest of the niggas. Loki, I
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  Speaker 6: just want to, like, hook up with you. And I
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  Speaker 6: think at one point, one of her girlfriends came to
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  Speaker 6: her and showed her what was happening online and what
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  Speaker 6: everybody was saying.
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  Speaker 4: And then I think.
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  Speaker 6: That's what made her like, okay, let me go to
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  Speaker 6: the cops or I'm about to... Because I think her initial.
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  Speaker 6: I guess, I don't know, police report or the initial
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  Speaker 6: interview with the cops were inconsistent with future... visits or
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  Speaker 6: future interviews with the police in regards to whether she consented,
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  Speaker 6: whether or not she was conscious, and so on and
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  Speaker 6: so forth.
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  Speaker 3: I do want to add, when I say minor, she
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  Speaker 3: was 20 years old.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: So that's not 18. That is not 19. It's 20
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  Speaker 3: years old. She was not old enough to drink is
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  Speaker 3: what I'm trying to say. She was 20 years old.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if that changes anything.
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  Speaker 1: It does.
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  Speaker 2: That changes a lot.
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  Speaker 1: So she was 20 years old. Okay. So that's what
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  Speaker 1: I meant. She was not old enough to drink. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So the internet went crazy. Like, why isn't this a thing?
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  Speaker 3: Why did the DA not prosecute? Why did Cornell... y'all
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  Speaker 3: just making these guys write essays about essay that's what
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  Speaker 3: they call it essays about sexual.
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  Speaker 1: Assault and.
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  Speaker 3: Now the da is like wait a minute because she's
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  Speaker 3: now suing the sorority the fraternity the bar cornell and
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  Speaker 3: i'm not sure she's suing the city i'm not sure
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  Speaker 3: but she's suing everybody that was involved with that night
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  Speaker 3: basically saying like yo Y'all allowed me to get sexually assaulted.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all did all of these things to, you know, leading
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  Speaker 3: up to it, during it, suing the guys that was involved, everything.
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  Speaker 3: And everybody's like, well, let's press you. The charges should
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  Speaker 3: be brought against these seven guys. But the internet is
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: split as to whether, because her initial story, after what
• 11:33
  Speaker 3: Reg said, like once she saw the thing, she went
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  Speaker 3: to the police. Her initial story just said, yo, I
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  Speaker 3: consented to everything. There was no real assault. Like, I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to have sex and I agreed and I said no.
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  Speaker 4: She literally texted him, like, nothing that happened that night
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  Speaker 4: was illegal. She said that in a text message.
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  Speaker 1: Which does not prove anything. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: To me, that statement does not prove anything because you
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  Speaker 3: can be a victim and not know you was a victim.
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: You can also do things to appease your attacker.
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  Speaker 1: You can do things to, like, you're not.
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  Speaker 3: You like, she was that into the dude to want
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  Speaker 3: to fuck these other dudes that she did not go
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  Speaker 3: there for.
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  Speaker 1: She was not interested in them. She was interested in him.
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  Speaker 3: And she said at first in the 2024 that she
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  Speaker 3: did it to appease him, to make him happy.
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  Speaker 1: So the next day, her not.
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  Speaker 3: Even realizing she was assaulted or maybe being in some
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: sort of like not, no, you ever not, you put
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: the shit, your trauma to back, you put it back.
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: So you try not to block it out. But you're
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: still interested in this dude. And you don't want this
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: dude to think you was a whore. You don't want
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: this dude to think, oh, so you want to see
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  Speaker 3: if he'll still fuck with you behind what you did
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  Speaker 3: last night.
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  Speaker 1: Or am I that bad? Are you?
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  Speaker 5: No, I'm good. I just want to hear everything all
• 12:52
  Speaker 5: the men have to say.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just kidding.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 5: Y'all didn't do it.
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  Speaker 6: I just want to hear y'all's views on it. My
• 12:58
  Speaker 6: thing is, because I have daughters. I have four daughters, right?
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  Speaker 1: Damn, shout out to you. Yeah. I think.
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  Speaker 4: two things could be true, right?
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  Speaker 6: I can engage in the idea that there was a
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  Speaker 6: level of victimization.
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  Speaker 4: A level of victimization.
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  Speaker 7: And then.
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  Speaker 4: Or.
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  Speaker 6: Or rather, she wasn't completely a victim and they were
• 13:26
  Speaker 6: still wowing. Like, I don't understand. Even at that age,
• 13:31
  Speaker 6: when you get to a certain point, you're in college...
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  Speaker 6: i feel like you know better like if you feel
• 13:36
  Speaker 6: like hey i'm taking drugs or someone's like free pussy
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  Speaker 6: or whatever and you're going in a room and there's
• 13:42
  Speaker 6: a girl there and niggas is on like what about
• 13:45
  Speaker 6: that is appealing like what like what what about.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: That are you let's talk about that yeah what.
• 13:50
  Speaker 6: What about that makes you want to get right like
• 13:52
  Speaker 6: nigga that shit's you back your mans out and you
• 13:54
  Speaker 6: good yo even like and this is me personally even
• 13:57
  Speaker 6: threesomes and trains and shit like that is is wild
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  Speaker 6: to me like Niggas like, why do I need... The
• 14:02
  Speaker 6: ratio is crazy. It's like, why so many niggas in it?
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  Speaker 6: That's something separate. In regards to.
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  Speaker 1: Some people like wild, but it's true.
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  Speaker 4: In regards to....
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  Speaker 6: When we engage in talking about SA or anything like that,
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  Speaker 6: I feel like when we start going into.
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: A space where we talk.
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  Speaker 6: Because I have female friends who have actually been assaulted.
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  Speaker 6: I wasn't there, so I can't say.
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  Speaker 4: But it's like when... When we call everyone a victim,
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  Speaker 4: nobody's really a victim anymore. You get what I'm saying?
• 14:36
  Speaker 6: If it's like, yo, you were in a room, you
• 14:39
  Speaker 6: were snorting ketamine off of Sun's joint, and now everyone
• 14:45
  Speaker 6: in the room is drunk and hot. Everyone was on drugs.
• 14:48
  Speaker 6: Everybody was drinking. Everybody was under the influence.
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  Speaker 1: Right?
• 14:52
  Speaker 6: So if one of the guys or one of the
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  Speaker 6: young men decided the next day to be like, yo.
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  Speaker 6: I was under the influence. I couldn't really consent to this.
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  Speaker 6: She raped me. What would be the difference there?
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  Speaker 4: Because he's a guy?
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm bugging, but it's just like
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: we're all.
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  Speaker 5: You're bugging. How can she rape you if she's laying
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: there and isn't doing shit? Your penis got up, you
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: took your pants down, you took it out, and you
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  Speaker 5: inserted it in her.
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  Speaker 6: We said they were engaged in a threesome. We don't
• 15:28
  Speaker 6: know what she was doing.
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  Speaker 5: So, let's say she had the two threesomes. She consented to...
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  Speaker 5: I wasn't there. None of us was there. That's consent
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: to four different guys. It was seven of them. And
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: I've never taken ketamine, but from my understanding, ketamine is
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: like a downer, right?
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: Isn't ketamine something... I think ketamine puts you down. It's
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: not like heroin, as far as I know, but.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: Everybody in the room was on ketamine. Right.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: So she did ketamine more than once. We don't know
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: how much she weighs. We don't know how big she is.
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  Speaker 5: My whole thing is, did she make poor decisions? Absolutely.
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: She made poor decisions, but making poor decisions doesn't mean
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: that you aren't a victim when a multitude of boys, men,
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: whatever are taking turns on you and you are clearly inebriated.
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: Like that's, that's disgusting. That's creepy. That's weird.
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  Speaker 4: It's creepy as fuck.
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  Speaker 6: In the report, though, when she said, as soon as
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: she said stop to anything, everybody stopped. As soon as
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: she said nah, niggas walked out the room.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: She wrote this down.
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: She said she was able to say stop for as
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: long as she was coherent. Now that she's not coherent
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: and y'all are still doing whatever you're doing to her,
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: how can she say stop in those moments?
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: But if she was initially coherent and then she, after
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: the fact, said, you know what? Actually, I blacked out
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: and all of this happened after everyone is like, oh yeah,
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: everybody heard about that.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: Now there's shame attached to the behavior.
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: And maybe you in your mind felt like, okay, I
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: have to do this to impress this guy or maybe
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: he'll like me if I do all this. Or at
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: some point you indicated there was coercion or I felt
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: like somebody was going to hurt me if I didn't
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: engage in this. Yo, I completely understand that. I'm not
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: seeing the There are women who are victimized and I
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: feel like when we throw everybody in that category because
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: they made bad choices that they regret, I feel like
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: you're watering down the experiences of actual victims.
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: So when you are victimized, you end up being in
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: positions where you make poor decisions because the fact that
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: So she says she did this because she wanted to
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: please that guy. She wanted to make him feel good
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: or she wanted to impress him or whatever. That's problem
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: number one. So that already means that there was an
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: issue with that dynamic because why are you doing things
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: or why are you in a situation where there's a
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: man that's making you feel like you have to do
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: these things? So already he's setting her up for failure.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: And body language is a real thing with women. And
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: I don't care how young you are as a boy.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: If you are engaging with women, you can tell when
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: a woman is actually really into you and she really
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: wants to do something. And you can tell when she
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: is doing this because you are applying pressure or you
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: have applied pressure. Yes, she may have gone along with
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: it while she was under the influence, but based on
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: The fact that she was even feeling shame or whatever
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: after the fact, clearly she was going along with it.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: If she did, because there was pressure that was applied.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: It may not have been applied in that moment in
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: the room, but there was some sort of pressure that
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: was applied prior to that made her feel like she
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: had to do this.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: I believe that she was raped. I believe that if
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: she does ketamine in a room with two other guys,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: in a threesome, whatever happens with those two other guys, that's... consensual, right?
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: And she's under the influence and like you said, Reg,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: whatever happens next, she consensually took the ketamine. But now,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: somebody texted free pussy and more niggas come upstairs and
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: they raped her because now she's under the influence of
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: ketamine and now she's making more poor choices and you're
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: saying because she didn't say stop, but she's under the
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: influence of a drug.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: She did say stop.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: But I'm saying, but you're saying... When she said stop,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: they stopped. But what if she didn't say stop early
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: enough because she's under the influence of ketamine and she
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: was under the influence of ketamine under the guise of
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: being with two men.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: She said stop.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Now that extra men, once the extra men came into
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: the room, it's a violation.
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: If I'm incorrect and those young men who came in
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: were dead sober and they came in and.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: They were like, oh, we're about to, just hear me out.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: If they're sober or not rape is rape I'm.
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: Sorry okay what I'm saying is if we're all under
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: the influence so let me ask you a question just
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: hypothetically you and a woman you you just started dating
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: whatever you guys get stone drunk you're both drunk right
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: and then you guys engaged in sex, and then the
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: next day she's like, you know what?
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: I was drunk. I couldn't consent to that. Like, you
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: consider that rape?
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Okay, you were both drunk. So technically, did she rape him?
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Regardless of that, what I'm talking about is.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: You and the lady that you're drinking, I'm talking about
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: the five dudes downstairs that were not on the date.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: That's a different conversation. I'm going to get to that.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: I just want to understand. You're skipping over the most
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: important thing that I said.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not.
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: I'm just trying to understand your rationale or the line
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: of thinking before I go to the next thing.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: So, do you consider that rape?
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: If she's like, I did not consent to this, I
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: was under the influence, I wasn't in my right mind,
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: there was no me telling you, showing you that I
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: wanted to do this and somehow I still ended up
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: having sex, then yes. He raped her. It doesn't matter
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: if he was drunk too.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying she was drunk like she was passed
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: out unconscious. You were both drunk and then you engaged.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: He kissed you. You kissed him. You guys engaged in sex.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: No, that is something very, very, very different. And now
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: you're going to like, you're.
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: Trying to use the extreme as a way to rationalize.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: No, no, that's not what I'm doing.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Why can't we consider this similar?
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: From what I heard, everybody was... Give me one second.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: My bad.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I think that I've asked this question before without... Without
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: pointing at this one, if two people are intoxicated, how
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: one can make a decision that they can be prosecuted
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: before and the other one can make a decision that
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: they can't be culpable for, right? So if you're drunk
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: and you consent to having sex with me because you're
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: drunk and then I do something to you, but then
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: tomorrow you say, yo, I was drunk. I didn't want
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: to do that. I can be held responsible, but you
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: can't for your choice at the same time. I think you.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: Both should be held accountable. I'm thinking from the perspective,
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: you said drunk and I'm just thinking inebriated. I'm thinking
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: this is a girl that's drunk. She's wasted. Yeah, he's drunk,
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: but he's still more coherent than she is.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: But why is he more coherent?
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: You're both drunk. I'm telling you what I thought when
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: you said drunk. So what came to my mind, because
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: I'm thinking about this situation... with the guys from Cornell,
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: I'm thinking about inebriation. If we're just, yeah, we were
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: drinking and we're both drunk, and we both consented to
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: sex and being drunk, that's something very different. You consented
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: to that. Yes, you were drinking, you were drunk, but
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: you were not inebriated, you were not out of your
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: right mind. That is something very different from being on
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: multiple drugs or the same drug taken over and over again,
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: plus you drank a large amount, you agreed to something
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: with one set of guys, Another set of guys came in. Yes,
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: you said stop. Because here's where I'm getting lost. She
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: said stop once or twice, but she was still coherent
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: enough to say stop. Okay, why are motherfuckers still coming
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: in the room? If she said stop once, that should
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: have been enough. Oh, she said stop to him, but
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: she didn't say stop to him. She said stop to that,
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: but she didn't say stop to this. Stop is stop.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: Why the fuck are y'all still trying? Why the fuck
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: are y'all sending text messages and still coming into this room?
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: So I think that's the problem with this whole thing.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: So there were seven dudes, right? She agreed to it.
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: Two threesomes it was like four guys that she agreed
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: to to have sex with and i don't know if
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: that counts the the initial guy.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: No there's because she had sex with two of them.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: One two one two three four so.
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah right i think there's four yeah but then the
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: initial guy didn't actually really engage because he wasn't really
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: all the way with it he fell asleep so on
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: and so forth but he's still in the seven so
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: we're talking about two extra two miscellaneous people and i
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: might be incorrect.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Three miscellaneous guys, right? So they came in thinking, oh,
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: it's lit. But from what I read, again, because if
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: they walked in dead sober, let me create the caveat.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: If they walked in sober and they engaged in sex
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: with her and she was unconscious, that is rape.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Unequivocally if they walked in under the influence it's different.
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: Wait hold on yes it's different can we wait hold
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: on let me because we do this thing where like
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: we're saying women are equal to men but then somehow
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: in certain situations hold on hold on no women are
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: in terms of capability and so on and so forth
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: in the relation in the context of relationship we're not
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: talking about that what I'm saying is as a woman
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: right if I if I go out and I'm dead
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: drunk and you're dead drunk right we're both drunk And
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: if I go the next day and I wake up
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: as a man and I'm like, yo, you know what?
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Now that I think about it, I didn't really consent
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: to that. Niggas look at me like I'm crazy.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Like, it's not rape because I'm a man?
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I think more so for me. I hear this argument
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: that you're doing. Easy. Take it easy.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: No, no. I'm not upset.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not mad.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: I'm not trying to trigger anybody.
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: I'm just saying from a logical standpoint. And again, I
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: have female friends that have been in the situation.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: And you also have four daughters.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: And I think that this is a conversation for men
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: with boys. I think the idea that you have a
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: woman in a frat house by herself, all of y'all
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: is like.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: So coercion is a thing.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: Isolation is a thing, right? When a person is in
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: a room full of all of y'all and it's just me,
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: you're more likely to go along. It's very hard to
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: go against, especially when you're naked, right? Especially when you've
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: already consented to something. And then you're inebriated. So my
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: idea of where we should.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Be looking at this is more along the lines of
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: free pussy? What are we teaching our boys?
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: What are we teaching our boys when that gets you like, yo,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: we're all going to mob down and go upstairs with
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: this girl vulnerable and do all of that. And I
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: think you agree to this already. And I think that's
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: where really the focus should be. I don't, as a
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: man with three daughters, and as a man with female friends,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: and with a woman, I think more so we should
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: be thinking about how we behave. Like, we're so focused
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: on like, yo, well, she did this, she did that.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: My nigga, what is free? Why did you do that?
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: And then all of the 57 niggas that was in
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: that chat, none of y'all had the wherewithal to say, yo,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: this is crazy.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: We're buggered.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: I agree, but then where's the, there's no personal accountability.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: You can have that. You can have that. I'm not even,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I never argued that. I never even, and see, this
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: is the thing with us. We always look for the, like,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: We need to focus on what affects us.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Let me ask a question.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: Two things could be true. I could think there should
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: be an investigation and they should face some sort of consequence.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying that they shouldn't deal with anything.
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: Because I think automatically when you're like, I don't completely
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: see the victimhood in this.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: And then automatically that means they're innocent. That's not what
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: I'm saying.
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: What I'm saying is we can't have a conversation where
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: it's just like when it's convenient, women are like infants
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: that can't do anything.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Now, let me.
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: Hold on.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Hold on.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Let me just finish the point because like halfway through,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: it sounds crazy. Just hear me out.
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: If there was coercion, if there's a group of men
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: and she was like, yo, I felt like. If I
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: said no, I was in danger. That's something completely different.
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: She's a woman. Okay, I'm sorry, but I have to interrupt.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: I'm so sorry. I don't mean any disrespect by this,
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: but you guys are men and you have daughters. I
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: get you have daughters and I get that you love
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: your daughters. You talk to your daughters, but you're not
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: women and you're never going to know what it feels
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: like to be a woman and you're never going to
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: know what it feels like to be a young girl.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: In college, a young girl in any of these situations
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: in college are not trying to maneuver through life, figure
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: out who you are, figure out how to engage as
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: a girl, as a woman, and you're into men, and
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: men behave fucking poorly. And this is not a men
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: versus women, and women are infants, and women were equal
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: or not. These are facts. Young boys in college behave
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: like animals, and it's the fault of the mothers and
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: the fathers that are raising them or not raising them.
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: And boys should be boys. Or boys will be boys
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: or whatever. You don't know what it feels like as
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: a woman to be in a space where you are
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: surrounded by men or boys, whatever you want to call them.
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: There's a boy that you like. You want to impress him.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: He is pressuring you into things. Or even if it's
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: not pressuring you, even if you like a girl that's
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: open sexually, you're freaky, you're into certain things and you
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: want to explore with him. And now he's taking it
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: too far. You've already agreed that you're open to explore.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: And now he's taking it too far.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: But you.
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: feel like you're in a position now where you can't
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: tell him it's too late to turn back. Or I
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: don't know what to say now. And let's forget that.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: Now you're a girl in a room full of men
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: and you're naked. And the argument is, oh, but she
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: didn't say no. Or when did she say no? Nobody
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: thought about, maybe she didn't feel like it was safe
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: to say no because I'm in a room with these
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: boys that are inebriated because they're drunk, because they've taken drugs.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: I don't know what they're capable of. I'm fucking naked.
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: I'm by myself. And if I say no, I might
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: get beat to fuck to death. I might get raped aggressively.
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: I might get knocked out. I might get videotaped in
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: certain ways and it gets leaked everywhere. So you know what?
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: It's probably easier. And I'm already drunk. I'm already inebriated.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: So I can't even really fight and defend myself the
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: way I would have if I was in more of
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: a sober mind. Yeah, I fucked up. I shouldn't have
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: put myself in this predicament, but I'm here now.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: And you got to think about the power dynamic.
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: The easiest thing to do is to go along with it.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: You're not a woman. and if you ask.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Just think about it bro because the power dynamic.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: Because the amount of women that have actually been in
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: situations where they went along with shit that they did
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: not want to do and said yes when they wanted
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: to scream no and now yeah after the fact you
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: can't say it's rape because you you openly said yes
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: and agreed to it but in your heart you did
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: not want to do it I bet you every woman
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: you know has been in a situation at least once
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: where she said yes when she wanted to say no.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: So the conversation should not be about her and why
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: she was there. It needs to be about the boys.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Hold on.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: Let me just ask you a question, right? Just so
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: I understand what you're saying.
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: So outside of this, like let's put the Cornell 7
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: thing aside for a second. You're saying there are instances
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: where women don't want to say no for whatever reason, right?
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: And are we talking about Because she's afraid of his
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: reaction or because she's unsafe. Because again, if we're talking
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: about coercion, that's not what I'm addressing. If she feels unsafe,
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: if she feels like if I say no, someone's going
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: to hurt me, that is something completely different.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: That is not what I'm addressing. What I'm saying is,
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: niggas are not mind readers. You're saying girls are going
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: through all these complicated things when they're in college, but
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: these niggas are absolute fucking demons. Yes. They're kids.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Hold on.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: Hold on.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I gave you the respect.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: Just let me finish. You got it. They are all kids, right?
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: They did something monstrous, right?
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: But somehow, oh, she agreed to the threesome, but you
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: don't know what it's like because she's exploring stuff and
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: she doesn't know and she really likes the boy.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: No one's a mind reader. I engage my girls not
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: in the world as I want it to be, but
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: in the fucking reality of the world. Niggas can't read
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: your mind. He doesn't know you don't want to do
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: it until you say you don't want to do it. Now,
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: me as a grown man, if the vibe isn't all
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: the way like, I'm.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: Like, she's iffy.
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: It don't really feel like she's feeling me. I'm not
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: even rocking with it. In college and high school, niggas
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: aren't there yet. They're like, oh, she likes me.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: She's quiet. She's whatever. Or they might just be so hyped.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: They might get some sex. They're not even... Their minds
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: aren't even going there.
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: And that's why the conversation needs to be about how
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: and what we're teaching these young boys. And sometimes you
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: got to hold a certain group of boys or make
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: an example of somebody.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: The first point. Forget everything that happened after that. Let
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: me just say one more thing. My bad. When you
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: said initially she went in there and he invited her
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: up for the threesome.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I just want to talk real quick. My bad. Go ahead.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: I know everybody's passionate but when I need to redirect
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: or input have input please allow me as the host
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: of the show to interject please both of y'all right
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: with all due respect to y'all because I know this
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: is a very heavy conversation very heavy conversation um this
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: is just me wanting to say there's a power dynamic
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: that happens when you are amongst a bunch of people
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: versus one person in any dynamic, right? You might feel
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: that way right now. You're like, yo, I don't know
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: these niggas. If we all ganged up on you, you'd
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: be like, hold up, I come into your platform, right?
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: And you, that's how y'all handle me? You might feel
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: that right now as a grown conservative ass man.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: You might feel that way. There's a thing called gang mentality.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I watched it today.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: There was a young kid talking to a girl in
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: LA and I guess he's getting her number and about
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: six or seven dudes come over to him and They're
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: asking him if he bang, if he blood or he whatever.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: He's like, no, I don't gang bang. I don't gang bang.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: I don't gang bang. And one of them slapped him.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: And they all ran away. He couldn't do nothing. He
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: was just like, and the girl was like, did they
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: just slap you? He was like, yeah, but you know,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be successful one day. I'm going to
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: be rich and I'm going to get out the hood.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: And he was like, yo, I'm going to just talk
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: to you later. And he rolled off on his skateboard.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: She was like horrified for him. You understand what I'm saying?
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: There's a power dynamic when there's seven, eight, nine against you.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: that you really can't do nothing about. Now imagine being
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: a woman in a frat house. You in a frat house,
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: you're underage as is. You're in a frat house, you're
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: upstairs naked and niggas just keep coming in and out.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: And you're drunk, but you're not supposed to be drinking.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: You're high.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: So we're just talking about how the power dynamic gets smaller,
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: like gets further apart, right? Those guys had more responsibility
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: to behave in a certain way, then she was losing
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: the ability to do that. Just because of the fact
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: that she's outnumbered and naked and in a frat house
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: and underage and they're all together.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: They're all together.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: I'm not even speaking on the no here at Know That.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: I'm speaking on us teaching our kids, our boys, to
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: not be gang members. And that just means doing, going
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: along with the pack. Not making your own, not knowing
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: how to make your own decisions. Not knowing the difference
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: between right and wrong because Reg.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Is doing it, with all due respect. Or Derek.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Just not, just not knowing how to say, yo, this
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: is wrong. Not knowing how to stand up for.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: The girl in the room. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Come on, come on, come on, come on. Yo, you good?
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Like we, we as black men gotta learn how to
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: change the behavior when we see shit going on. And
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: we gotta have courage. We got to be brave enough
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: because what we're saying is to ask her to do that.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: No, that's not what I'm saying.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: We're saying that she should have been had enough courage
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: or bravery to tell all of these niggas in their
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: house amongst their friends and family while she's butt naked
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: high and drunk what them niggas should be doing. And
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: that's just the wrong way for us as men to
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: look at it. And I'm only going to say that,
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: and I want to end this.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: I want to end this.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: I think we had a great debate. I think we
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: had a great debate. I only want to say this
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: because this could be our kids, our daughters, or our sons.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: And something got to change. That's just the way I look.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I see it. We got to think about our children
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: in the future. This community is going to shit with
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: these fucking kids.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: But two things could be true, though.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Admit, and I just want you to hear that. Two
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: things can be true.
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: I just want you to understand that.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Let's move on.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm good.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: This shit was heavy. It was. Y'all good?
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: Sorry if I offended you.
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: No, no, you didn't offend me at all. Sorry if
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: I offended you.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. Nobody's sorry.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: You don't watch the show. We be wild. Nobody's sorry
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: about me. It's very hard to.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Nobody's sorry about me. You all right.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: You a man.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: Sorry we didn't let you speak.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Be a man.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I'm offended you brought up this topic. The last episode
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: was way more fun.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: It's tough. It is tough.
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: Tom will always do this shit to me. He always
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: bring up a topic, get me hot, and then don't
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: fucking air this shit.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I didn't air it?
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: Don't post it. When we was talking about that white
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: lady that should have fucked that bitch that killed her kids.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: We didn't post none of that postpartum shit. That shit
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: was intense.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: And so, I don't even know if he's going to
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: post this. The editor will be looking at this like, nah. Nah,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to do it.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: This isn't it, though. This has been a fucking shit
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: show on social.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Media this week.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: There's more?
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: Bro.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: It's been a lot this week. Don't come down yet.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: A young lady posted a video basically saying, detailing why
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: black men are.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Hard to love or hard to date.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: I didn't see that.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: You will see it. right now. Let me see. Well,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: once I find the damn link.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: I don't think there were any black men in that
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: last situation, though.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: No, there wasn't. Thank God.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: There were two guys that looked mixed, but I don't... Nah,
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: they wasn't black. There was an Asian guy? No, I
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: think they might have been Hispanic.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Nah, nah, they wasn't black.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: There was still some other shit.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: They was on a Friday.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there was some other shit.
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: They weren't, they weren't, but I think they looked like
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: they didn't look.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: It wasn't us or something.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: We good. We know better.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: We don't have the privilege.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Cannot.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: And niggas get their own bitches. They don't have to
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: share their shit.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Like, Do you mind? Can I? Yeah, my bad.
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: This out loud, but I'm going to be the one
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: to say it.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: And I don't care if you.
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: Guys bash me or shame me. Black men are extremely
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: hard to love.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: Case closed.
• 37:45
  Speaker 7: Now, actually, if we want to reopen that case, we
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: can actually get into some things. Like, as a collective,
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: black men are extremely hard to love. They will make
• 37:55
  Speaker 7: you perform to be chosen. Half of the time, they
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: don't know what they want or what direction they're going in.
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: A lot of them don't have any purpose. And these
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: same men that don't have any purpose want you as
• 38:07
  Speaker 7: a black woman to perform femininity. And even when you
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: are feminine, they always find a way to raise the goalposts.
• 38:15
  Speaker 7: Whether they have mommy issues due to their mother literally
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: emotionally neglecting them as a child, or they have daddy
• 38:21
  Speaker 7: issues because they either didn't have a father or the
• 38:24
  Speaker 7: father that they had didn't show them any form of
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: healthy masculinity. Then in another aspect, you have black men
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: who are consciously going around asking black women, what do
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: they bring to the table? As if my uterus is
• 38:39
  Speaker 7: not the table that you come to, to feast here,
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: to make dinner here, to fellowship here. Black men have
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: lost the plot and the art of how to love
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: properly in a healthy way, despite the environments that they've
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: grown up in and experienced. the relational dynamics that they've
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: been accustomed to. And instead of being aware and taking
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: that awareness and turning it into responsibility.
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: They're actively pointing it back on us.
• 39:12
  Speaker 7: Like, you guys are so hard to love that even
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: the bestest of best women and the greatest women and
• 39:19
  Speaker 7: the most healed women, we don't want to deal with y'all.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I missed the part about the rain. Did you switch?
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: Sidebar, I see the shit niggas be clapping for and be...
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: happy with and agree to or whatever. Like, low-key, if
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: that's the type of shit niggas support, y'all could not
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: like me.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: I'm cool with that.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: Sidebar, I like the chat shit y'all got going on there.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: Precious, it's cool if you disrespect me. I'm very difficult
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: to offend. I appreciate you watching your time, whatever. I'm
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: sorry you disagree with me. But, yeah, like, Shorty's... We
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: try not to disrespect our guests while we're in the room.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all good.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Y'all can talk shit.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: No, you can do it while I'm here.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: I'm cool.
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Shorty's a fucking goofball. And, yo, low-key, goofball is
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: way more disrespectful than bitch to me because, like, goofiness is, like,
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: the epitome of, like, Joints wanted men to do better,
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: like figure out your emotions, go get therapy, become more
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: aware of whatever. And I think over time, due to
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: social media and everything else, I think everybody, not just men,
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: but women also are raising their standards in terms of
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: what they want. I think the problem is niggas started
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: to shift out of this happy wife, happy.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: Life mentality and started saying like, wait, what am I
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: getting out of this? And now it's like, okay, I'm
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: engaging you with, like, yeah, like, the same shit you want,
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: I want. Like, I want accountability. If I tell you
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: I don't like some shit, I want you to apologize.
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: I want to be heard and all this other shit.
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: And now niggas are sassy because you told me to
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: go get right and figure myself out and all that.
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: Now niggas are sassy because they want the same shit
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: you want and her uterus is the table?
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: Nigga, that's goofy as fuck. Like, what do I need
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: you for? like what like what is your purpose because
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: this sex like it's like pussy is oh it's out
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: here it is od available i don't know.
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: If you don't have sex with the uterus the uterus.
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: Bears no i i know how it works what i'm
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: saying is she's saying the the uterus is what she
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: brings to the.
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: Table bringing forth life okay.
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: So when niggas let off and like it you get
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: pregnant the baby's in the uterus correct So you're saying
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: your ability to bear children.
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: I think what she was saying.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: What she was saying, like mad joints is getting pregnant.
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: I don't know if you know, like I just saw
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: a pregnant joint at the bus stop earlier. It's in abundance.
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: It's not, it's not a, it's not rare.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: It's like dog.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: It's everywhere.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: Joints is getting pregnant. You know what I mean? What
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: is outside of that? What is the value?
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: No he didn't yo I'm bugging no he said what
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: he said he said what he said what's up what.
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: Y'all bringing to the table he said what he said
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: and he stood on it I so.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: And y'all be calling us sassy for everything facts can't
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: even ask like what I can't.
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: Even put music on my video while I'm smoking it
• 42:17
  Speaker 8: was some.
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: Sass to that it was some sass see that's crazy
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: that's crazy nah.
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: So um have you ever dated a man no you
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: haven't dated me right pause that's OD but that's my
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: point like you guys haven't experienced.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: But you haven't dated women I have.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: Actually, I have.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: And you chose a man. So there we go.
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: A man chose me.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: And you chose him back.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: I did because he's a good one.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: You was fucking with women and you was like, you know,
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go with a nigga.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: You don't even know what I'm going to say, baby.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: Let me say what I'm going to say. No disrespect.
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: I don't feel disrespected. So I have not dated outside
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: of my race. So I cannot say that black men
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: are hard to love. I don't think black men are
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: hard to love. I think a man that is emotionally
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: underdeveloped and hasn't accomplished certain things in life and hasn't
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: matured that frontal lobe. I know it's supposed to mature
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: at 25, but I don't think it matures necessarily at 25.
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: But when we speak to our community, I think men
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: and women have become very hard to love. I'm being very,
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: very honest. I think that there are some things that
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: she said that was very valid about black men, yes.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: Could you elaborate which things you felt were valid?
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: So I think from the perspective of, you know, wanting
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: you to perform exponentially to be chosen, and then when
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: you perform, raising the totem pole, like, yeah, you did
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: all the things to prove to me that you're worth
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: being a girlfriend, which is usually wife.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: Material wife duties you yes you have to prove that
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: you're the quality woman you know to be chosen to
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: be a wife but i mean there's certain things that's
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: like you expect a lot for a woman that you're
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: not even exclusively dating yet but and not reciprocating those
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: things And I think there is a lot of difficulty
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: with communication, with expressing yourself emotionally, with understanding that being
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: in a relationship and being in a healthy relationship is
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: more than just providing financially and protecting me with all
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: the guns that you bought, you know, with that.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I bought one. I bought one. Oh, okay.
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: So, you know, there's more to relationships and there's more
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: to being a good partner than that. And I think
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: a lot of men, because of society and the way
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: that they're brought up, don't understand that necessarily right away.
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: And it takes, you know, a willingness, not just emotional maturity,
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: but a willingness to understand and accept that. And I
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: think a lot of women, black women specifically, have also
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: become difficult to love. We're hard. You know, we have
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: walls up. you know, we're very quick to be like,
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: you know what, whatever nigga, I'm not trying to hear
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: nothing you want to see. You have to say about
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: that is, you know, this is what I wanted and
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: you not showing up in a way I wanted you
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: to show up. There's no, there's no willingness to work.
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: There's no willingness to understand. There's no willingness to be led.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: So I think as a community altogether, I think we
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: both have become difficult to love and I'm tired of
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: this conversation and the conversation that we should be having
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: should be how do we grow together as a unit
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: how do we get the family to develop and to
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: grow and to stay together and to raise healthy children
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: that aren't gang raping girls in fraternities it wasn't our
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: kids but I'm just saying like you know like that
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: should be the focus Like, we don't have... A lot
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: of us don't have life insurance. A lot of us
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: don't aspire to get life insurance. A lot of us
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: don't own property and land. A lot of us don't have,
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: you know, 401Ks. A lot of us don't have Roth IRAs.
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: We busy talking about men being difficult and women being
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: difficult and this girl did this to me and this woman... Like,
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: we need to get past that. If black men are
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: difficult to love and black women are difficult to love,
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: how do we fix that? How do we engage and
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: tap into each other? Because if you... Men can be
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: difficult to love, but if you show up for a
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: man in the right way, you can break that down.
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: And a woman can be difficult to be loved and
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: difficult to be led, but if you show up for
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: her in the right ways, you can break that down.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: So why don't we start focusing on that? The conversation
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: of the gender wars is old now for me, and
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: that's my takeaway. I'm tired of the conversation.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: I loved it.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: I like what you're saying because I do not like
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: people that just go online and complain. They've got no solutions.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: You're just complaining about shit. So that's one thing. Another
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: thing that you mentioned that stuck out to me was,
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly what you said, but I'm going
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: to allude to it. She looked like she was probably
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: like 25 years old, right?
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: And she's speaking in general terms. I don't like when
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: people speak, oh, men this, black men this. And you're
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: only 25, so you're talking about what you have experienced.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: So you're talking about the black men that you've dated.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: How many serious relationships have you had by the age
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: of 25, right? And I'm also guessing you probably dated
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: men that were around your age, maybe up to about 35.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: So you probably dated some immature men. So your experiences
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: are leading you to this narrative that black men this.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: But I'm like. it's an incomplete, me being 50 years old, like,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: I look at people like that, like, you have not, yeah,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I'm 50.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, shit. You look amazing. What?
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: They both, they both.
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: Oh, my God.
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: I didn't think you were 50.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: Oh, y'all niggas is 50?
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: Oh, you're 50?
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: Nah, niggas is 50?
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: 50 boys.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: Wait, hold on, hold on.
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: Hold on.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: 50 boys.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: My bad, my bad, but like, I didn't know y'all
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: were 50.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: 50 boys.
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: Taho, you 50?
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: I feel like Don too.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Taho's like 53.
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: Niggas didn't know you were 50.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: That was it. I'm almost 52. Oh, nice.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: He can have his.
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: Moment that's a compliment yeah go ahead I wasn't complimenting
• 48:00
  Speaker 6: I was just saying I didn't know you I'm.
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: Complimenting you guys you guys look amazing.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: You know thank you when you get older you get
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: wiser and you know what you don't know and you
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: realize that man at 25 I ain't know shit at
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: 50 there's a lot of shit I don't know but
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: I know enough not to make generalizations and I know
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: that somebody like that hasn't lived enough life to make
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: a broad statement like that she's talking about the people
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: that she's dealt with And they are probably immature. I'm guessing.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? And I hate to say
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: this because I don't want to come at her, but
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: if everybody that you've dated was problematic, maybe you are
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: the problem. You are the problem.
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: Even if the problem is you keep picking poorly, you're
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: still the problem. And just to be clear, I haven't
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: dated white men, but I've been in proximity to white
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: men for the majority of my life. They're worse. They're worse.
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: Which is why I've never dated one seriously. White men
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: are worse. Let's just be clear.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: I'll give Reg a second. I just want to interject.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: I didn't like the black men part of the conversation.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: I think that was really... Because I think saying men
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: are hard... I don't think women have... I don't have
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: a problem with women saying men are hard to love.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: Because I know at some point in my life, I
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: was hard to love. You know what I'm saying? I
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: think that there's validity there. But the black men, that
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: just wreaks a low racial self-esteem. Shout out to Kareem.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: That just wreaks a low racial self-esteem because what other race.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Have you dealt with that it was great? That was
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: so much better. That was so much better. You know
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? That part... That part annoyed me.
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: Go ahead, Reg.
• 49:33
  Speaker 6: Okay, so let me create some context because I actually,
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: and Jimmy could attest to this, I hold men to
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: the highest standards. I've stopped being friends with niggas because
• 49:42
  Speaker 6: they don't take care of the kids and shit like that, right?
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: I'm talking about if me as a man, I'm showing
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: up the best I can, right? I'm never going to
• 49:52
  Speaker 6: ask or expect something from you that I am not providing.
• 49:55
  Speaker 6: So if I'm like, yo, I want to be heard,
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: I listen to you. I sat back respectfully and I
• 50:00
  Speaker 6: heard everything you had to say, repeated it back to you,
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: made sure we were on the same page, engaged in clarity.
• 50:05
  Speaker 6: So now when it's my turn, because you had a concern,
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: whether I agree with it or not, I'm going to
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: validate you, heard you, right? Now I have a problem
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: and I come to you with it and there's no accountability.
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: You won't engage in it.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: You won't listen.
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: And the idea of it is you don't have any
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: set standards. Your opinion on how a conversation should go
• 50:26
  Speaker 6: is strictly based off where you're standing.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: I don't fuck with that. I have daughters and I'm
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: going to engage in, because I feel like the conversation
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: with men and women is usually, women are told, because
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: I have a sister, women are told how they should
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: be treated.
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: Men are told how they should treat women, right? Oftentimes
• 50:44
  Speaker 6: that's the case. I tell my daughters all the time,
• 50:47
  Speaker 6: this is what you should expect as a man. I
• 50:48
  Speaker 6: take them on little dates. I treat my kids and
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: their mother a certain way so they could see a
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: certain example. But then on the flip side, I also
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: engage in, When you do meet someone, because my daughters
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: are at an age now where they're interested in dating
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: and seeing boys and so on, this is how you
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: treat the person you want to be with. This is
• 51:06
  Speaker 6: what respect looks like if you're dating a man. This
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: is how you navigate that. Now, never diminish yourself. Never
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: make yourself small to make anyone feel comfortable. But at
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: the same time, this is how you treat someone you
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: want to be with. And I don't know if that's
• 51:20
  Speaker 6: a Caribbean thing or whatever or so on and so forth,
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: but if you want to have a healthy relationship, this
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: is how you have to show up. The idea that
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: the burden of maintaining the relationship, happy wife, happy life,
• 51:32
  Speaker 6: and niggas just be quiet and let her have her way, whatever,
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: that shit's OD.
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: That shit's wild toxic.
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: And why would you want to be in a relationship
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: with someone that feels defeated all the time? Why is
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: that something that's appealing to you?
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: Because most of the relationship, I think me letting her
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: have her way in the house, it just works better, too.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: It makes her happier. I got the run of most things. Finances,
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: most shit, I probably get paid more. I probably don't
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: have to... I don't have as much involvement with the children,
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: just generally, statistically. I don't have much of the weight
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: of the children and the food and the shopping for
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: food and the preparing for school, back to school or whatever.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Most of that shit is run by her. So if she...
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: Want to put up the floral curtains.
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: I'm not talking about that.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Let her put up the fucking floral curtains and I'm
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: not going to say much.
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: I'm just saying, if you feel a way about something,
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: if you come in the crib and she said something
• 52:28
  Speaker 6: or she did something that threw you off or put
• 52:30
  Speaker 6: you in.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: A bad space. No, good communication skills is.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all I'm asking.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: But I'm going to tell you one thing.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: When I said I was hard to love, it became
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: that was in the same relationship I'm in now. I
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: learned how to be better in this relationship by listening.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: By learning how to communicate, right? So I can, and
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm disagreeing with you. I don't
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: know if I'm disagreeing.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: No, we're on the same page.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying that, and I taught my lady, I believe,
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: I think our relationship, we taught each other how to
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: love each other better.
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: How long have y'all been together?
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Almost eight years. We're going on eight years next year.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: So y'all figured that out together.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: And it took a lot, but it took intentionality and willingness.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: We wanted to. A lot of conversations with him.
• 53:13
  Speaker 6: I don't know if I'm going to make it.
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: And that's the other part too.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: And I get hosed. I don't know.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: You're like, yo, this bitch is at the corner store
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: and everything. Like, yo, yeah, I could have. But you
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: have to choose somebody and say, I'm willing to go.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: Somebody asked me, yo, what's the perfect relationship? Or what
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: he said to me? He said, how did you get
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: into a successful relationship? Why is your relationship successful? I said,
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: because this is the person I want to go through
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: the shit with. This is the person I'm choosing to
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: go through the shit with. And I actively choose this
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: person continuously. And even when we're going through some shit,
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: I go outside, I don't want to go through the
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: shit with them.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: I'd rather go through the shit with them.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: And when I walk back in the house, I'm more
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: willing to communicate in a healthy way because I want
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: to be here.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make it easy. It doesn't make it. fair
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: sometimes either sometimes it's not.
• 54:09
  Speaker 6: Fair and when i say there's mad women outside that's
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: not me saying there's there's a bunch of like well-intentioned.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: Or or or or women that you want to.
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: Be with or quality women or whatever i'm saying if
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: if all a woman is telling you is i'm bringing
• 54:28
  Speaker 6: physical beauty or my uterus or pussy to the table
• 54:31
  Speaker 6: i'm saying that's everywhere I'm at a point where I
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: need more from you than that. And if that's all
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: you got for me, nigga, I could get that anywhere.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: But you're not.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: You reduce yourself to that. And that, she wasn't talking
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: about a nigga that had his head on his shoulders.
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's the context I'm experiencing.
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: So, like, for instance, like, your chat is saying, like,
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: shit about, like, the woman's white or so on and
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: so forth.
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: Who's white?
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: The girl in the video?
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: No, they were saying my joint has to be white
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: because of how I'm talking.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: How old are you, Reg?
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: Me?
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: I'm 39.
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: Oh my God, I'm older than you?
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck they talking about.
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: But my thing is.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: They dragging me. You wanted me to see me getting dragged?
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: They called me a senior citizen in there?
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: Yo, that has nothing to do with me and my brother.
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: I didn't know y'all was 50. But what I'm saying
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: is I couldn't tell you what my girl's wallet looks like.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: You feel me?
• 55:31
  Speaker 6: My thing is I'm operating strictly from a perspective of
• 55:39
  Speaker 6: I'm protecting and I'm providing and I'm acting in the
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: way that you need me to show up.
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: So my mom doesn't work. My dad works.
• 55:47
  Speaker 6: But my mom's job is to make sure that he's
• 55:51
  Speaker 6: in the best possible position to do what he needs
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: to do to continue to take.
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: Care of everybody. So that's her job. You know what
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: I mean?
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: And whatever works for everybody's relationship, but that's the standard
• 56:04
  Speaker 6: they hold each other to. And all I'm saying is,
• 56:07
  Speaker 6: and the gender wars thing is getting old, there should
• 56:10
  Speaker 6: be standards across the board. We shouldn't be in a
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: place where we put men here. Because I'll be honest,
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: as a black man, sometimes it's almost dehumanizing the way
• 56:20
  Speaker 6: women engage you. You're not allowed to have feelings. You're
• 56:22
  Speaker 6: not like, bro, you're sassy because you have emotions. Like,
• 56:26
  Speaker 6: you go to a woman, like, there was a woman who,
• 56:29
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to name her, and she was a
• 56:32
  Speaker 6: guest on Milkshake. Her nigga said she hurt his feelings,
• 56:35
  Speaker 6: and she called him sassy. It's like, dog, why would
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: you want to stay in that? Like, why would you
• 56:39
  Speaker 6: want to be around for that?
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: For pussy? Fam, it's the joint outside. She got pussy, too,
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: and she's way nicer.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Some of them. Go outside. Some of them.
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: We're all hard to love at some point in our life.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: 55 minutes. We got 20 more minutes. I'm not done
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: with the gender wars.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck what y'all want to do.
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: I really don't give a fuck what y'all want to do.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: I'm not done.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: This one was directed at the man. The next one...
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Let's see here. This girl, yo, I don't know if
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: she's a pygmy or not, but.
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: If she's talking shit about women on a platform out loud....
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: What do you.
• 57:22
  Speaker 7: Mean by black women want to be white women? Right now,
• 57:25
  Speaker 7: based off the relationship and the interaction from black women,
• 57:29
  Speaker 7: the mindset and the posture that we think about our
• 57:32
  Speaker 7: men and how we interact with our men is based
• 57:34
  Speaker 7: off what we have seen the white women do. You
• 57:37
  Speaker 7: want a soft girl lifestyle because you've seen white women
• 57:39
  Speaker 7: live softer. Y'all don't want the black woman's experience because
• 57:42
  Speaker 7: the black woman's experience is that you've always had to
• 57:44
  Speaker 7: work hand in hand with the black man. You have
• 57:47
  Speaker 7: never been above him and you have never been below him.
• 57:49
  Speaker 7: You've always been equal to him because we've all had
• 57:52
  Speaker 7: the same struggle.
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: We were all in the field together.
• 57:54
  Speaker 7: We've all had to participate within our culture because black
• 57:58
  Speaker 7: men cannot do it by themselves. They are not subhuman.
• 58:01
  Speaker 7: They need help.
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: They need support.
• 58:03
  Speaker 7: A lot of black women do not behave.
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: Like black women. They talk like white women.
• 58:07
  Speaker 7: They feel like a black man should be able to
• 58:09
  Speaker 7: give them everything that that the white women are getting,
• 58:12
  Speaker 7: but the black man is not having the same experience as.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: The white man.
• 58:15
  Speaker 7: The black man is not growing up with the same resources.
• 58:18
  Speaker 7: A lot of black women feel like black men are
• 58:20
  Speaker 7: bums or they're not good enough if they cannot give
• 58:22
  Speaker 7: you a certain type of lifestyle. I don't want to
• 58:24
  Speaker 7: deal with no broke black man.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 58:27
  Speaker 7: What type of standard are you living upon? Where did
• 58:29
  Speaker 7: you learn that standard from? Who gave you that standard?
• 58:32
  Speaker 7: And it was not true black women. Black women have
• 58:35
  Speaker 7: never served money more than we served our community and
• 58:38
  Speaker 7: our men and our children.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Literally.
• 58:40
  Speaker 7: How black women interact with each other. How you disrespect
• 58:43
  Speaker 7: each other. NDIRE, prime example. Y'all are black women got
• 58:48
  Speaker 7: up here disrespecting that woman because she does not dress
• 58:50
  Speaker 7: half naked, because she does not want to behave like
• 58:53
  Speaker 7: a prostitute, because she don't believe in plastic surgery. Black
• 58:57
  Speaker 7: women were getting up here disrespecting a black queen because
• 59:01
  Speaker 7: she does not want to assimilate with the whole culture
• 59:03
  Speaker 7: that was cultivated by the white entertainment industry.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Literally.
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: Okay, even the.
• 59:09
  Speaker 7: Conversation when it comes to the 50-50 conversation, that is
• 59:12
  Speaker 7: a white woman's conversation because white women had to fight
• 59:16
  Speaker 7: for equality with their men because their men.
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: Did not see them equally.
• 59:19
  Speaker 7: And I have to keep saying this. Black men have
• 59:22
  Speaker 7: always held their women up to a higher standard.
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: We have always been queens to them.
• 59:26
  Speaker 7: The issue is that when black women integrated and got
• 59:30
  Speaker 7: around white women and you've seen their lifestyles, you said, oh,
• 59:33
  Speaker 7: we deserve that too. Oh, I want that. Well, that
• 59:35
  Speaker 7: has never been our life. That has never been our life.
• 59:40
  Speaker 7: Whenever we had nice shit, it's because we got the
• 59:42
  Speaker 7: nice shit. I helped my man get that. We went
• 59:45
  Speaker 7: and got that shit together.
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: It's not.
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: He just did it by himself.
• 59:50
  Speaker 7: Black men have always had a support system to do it.
• 59:53
  Speaker 7: And black women feel like you don't have to support him.
• 59:55
  Speaker 7: You can sit in the house and just wait for
• 59:57
  Speaker 7: him to go and get it. But that's not our experience.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 7: The white men have resources to be able to go on.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: Their own and get it. So I agree with everything
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: she's saying.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: Get out of here.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: To an extent. Because you guys also know, you two know,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: because we've talked about it before, that I have definitely
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: been the woman that's like, I will support you through
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: everything and then been taken advantage of. So because of that,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm going to fall back on that. But
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: I understand the willingness to and why you should. That's fine.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: So the only two things that I have an issue
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: with with what she said is black women actually were homemakers...
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: Taking care of their children and being supported by their
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: husbands while their husbands went out to work. And then
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: like dummies, we jumped on that white girl bandwagon fighting
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: for the rights that they wanted because their men, they
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: were homemakers too, but their men was treating them like shit.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: Our men treated us, they did treat us like their
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: equals and they respected us and loved us, although we
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: were homemakers. We let those white women coerce us, whatever.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: No, stand on that. Go a little further.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: What part?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: How y'all let the white women influence y'all and turn
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: y'all against y'all men.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: That was the dumbest shit ever. That was never our fight.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: That was never our plight. We were good where we
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: was at. And I don't know why. I don't know
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: whose idea it was. But if I could go back
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: in time, I would probably off her before she could
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: influence the other black women. But my only issue with
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: what she says is how she's speaking. I get her point,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: but I don't like the way she's speaking about black men.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: I totally understand that you cannot expect... of a black
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: man what you see these white men providing when the
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: entire world, not just America, is rigged for their benefit.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: They have to fight harder. You guys have to work harder.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: You guys have to jump through more hurdles. When you
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: are put in positions where you have the same opportunity
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: of white men, you have to navigate being in the
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: world surrounded by those white men to what you were
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: saying earlier. It's one, two black men surrounded by all
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: these white men. But I don't like the idea of
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: acting like our men cannot be more than, oh my gosh,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: I've been dealt a fucked up hand. Yes, you have.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: What I do think is you should focus on developing
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: yourself as a man. You meet a beautiful, and when
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: I say beautiful, I mean her spirit, her soul, woman
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: that is willing to ride with you, support with you,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: help you get where you have to get. And it
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: might not be financially. It might just be she's speaking
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: life into you. She's providing the things that you need
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: in whatever way you need it. And you guys get
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: to where you need to go together. But I do
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: think when you guys arrive, if you can handle it financially,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: that you should reward her for always being there and
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: supporting you and being the one that was working while
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: you was in medical school or you was launching the
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: business or whatever it might be. And now she should
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: be able to take a load off and kick a
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: breeze and relax because she held it down. So my
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: only issue with what she was saying is you're wrong
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: from the perspective of Our men wasn't holding it down
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: for us. And also, I don't want to continue to perpetuate, like,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: our men can't accomplish amazing things.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: We can.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: Yes, it's going to be harder, but we can get there.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: It's the expectation now. Well, yeah. That's what she's talking about.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: And that I agree with. The expectation is ridiculous.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: From women.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: I agree.
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  Speaker 5: It's not realistic. We talked about it before. The girls
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: are delusional.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: No, I'm just driving it home. No, no.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: And you're right. Drive it. You got to be realistic.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: You're fucking delusional. And also, you cannot expect from someone
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: what you don't have for yourself. Before you met him,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: what were you providing for yourself? Were you buying yourself
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: Chanel bags? Did you buy yourself a house? You don't
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: got 50 cents in your account and this nigga got
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: to have millions? Baby girl. You not in shape, but
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: you want a nigga to take care of you? And again,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: that sounds shallow, but if I am a man that
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: is okay with a woman that has nothing to bring
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: to the table but her looks, baby, you got to
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: have the fucking looks for me. Where they at? So,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: you know, it's just, it's a lot. It's a lot.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: I do agree. The girls are watching too much TV.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: Not even TV. Social media. Social media. I say this
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: all the time. Social media got everybody head fucked up.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Everybody. Rich, what you got?
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: She's, you know, she's... preaching like that was like that
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: was gospel like i almost cried listening to it that
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: was fire um.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: We're not surprised that you think that was fire come.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 9: On don't do that because we're on the same page
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 9: for two seconds why would you fuck it up we're
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 9: right there sorry sorry sorry i have um there's joints
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 9: that get life advice from memes dog like it's like
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 9: this is what you're dealing with there there are other
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 9: like reasons like historically why like you know we are
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 9: where we're at like in regards to the socioeconomic position
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 9: of black people right now. Welfare created a situation where
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 9: women had an incentive to kick niggas out or not
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 9: say they need them. There were programs that disproportionately favored
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 9: black women because this was strategically done to break up
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 9: the black family.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: If we create a situation where the man is no
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: longer needed.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 6: The family falls apart. Now you got kids with no
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 6: fathers and then so on and so forth. There's no
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 6: other culture that has to deal with this. Most of
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 6: the gender wars shit is us. Like, you don't see
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 6: nobody else having these conversations. It's black people and podcasters.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 6: When you have somebody who builds with you, I look
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 6: at the people that were with me when I was
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 6: working my way to a certain point differently than the
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 6: people that just pulled up after the fact. We have
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 6: this expectation based on social media that things are, like,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 6: super common. And then you see niggas get locked up
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 6: every week because they're scamming to keep up with something
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 6: that's not real.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: Like, this shit's, like, a strong illusion.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 6: If you're subscribing to what you see on social media, like,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 6: you get what you deserve. If you want to be
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 6: sold the dream, niggas will sell you a dream.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? And then when, you know,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: we're not even going to go there because we're going
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: to spend back into some other shit.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Anyways, um.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 6: I think black men should show up a certain way.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 6: I believe in men being men and taking care of
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 6: their household, protecting their women, so on and so forth,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 6: raising their kids and all that. But I do believe
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 6: women should hold them down.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: Like, I think.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 6: Whatever expectation you're expecting from me, you should be able
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 6: to show up in the same way. Whether or not
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 6: you can, whatever. If you want me to be in shape,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 6: to her point, like, you know what I mean?
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: Not too little.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 6: Like, niggas still need niggas still need the yeah niggas
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 6: need the stuff but um that's the Haitian in it
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: yeah like skinny joints is like it's like what are
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 6: we doing but um I need you to be able
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 6: to pull up and if I'm if I'm giving you
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 6: all this shit and like this is my final point
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 6: if I'm if I'm taking care of everything there is
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 6: a certain level of um comfort I have in like
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 6: if shit falls apart shorty can hold shit.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: Down yeah for sure um Trump Do you think black
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: women are trying to be too much like white women?
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: I think that there's a point there. And to kind
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: of echo everybody's sentiments, I'm going to make it not
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: specifically about black women, but black people in general. We
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: need to love each other differently. And I think that
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: she made some really good points in the video. And
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: although I just said before that I don't like generalizations,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: I think I've lived long enough and experienced long enough
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: to say so. to notice differences. And black people are
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: very loving people. And other cultures are a little bit
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: more cold and calculated and transactional. We are not transactional
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: by nature. We are more spiritual. We're more community. We're
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: more loving. And the soft life type of feel sounds
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: a little transactional. I want somebody that can provide this
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: life for me and can pay all my bills and
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: all that stuff. But what about the quality of person
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: what about the character what about the integrity the morals
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: and all of that like we're not having conversations about
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: that and who you're looking for in a mate in
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: the black community as often as i like to see
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: and i think that goes for men and women um
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: so i think she was kind of spot on where
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: she said that was my takeaway.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: From loved it loved that loved that yes what you
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: got um you're like i want to go home.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 8: That's what i know no yeah for sure um no
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 8: i i agree i agree with a lot of what
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 8: she said um i do feel like i'm gonna be
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 8: careful um but i do feel like um back to
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 8: what tager said about um i feel like at a
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 8: certain point when black women started to see the the
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 8: way that relationships or things went for white women, they
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 8: started to try to adopt some of that, but not
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 8: understanding that just at the inception of everything, it's a
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 8: completely different field, right? With how we are as black
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 8: people and how they are, and how they come up
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 8: so yeah i think everybody hit it pretty much on that.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: Can i make a point really quick because we keep
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: saying the white woman thing i think the thing that
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: bothers me about that really quick because like as we
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: were talking about it like we gotta stop treating black
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: women like suffering is like some type of virtue it
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: makes them like better you know what i mean like.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 6: Yo, you could really take a beating. That's what's up.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 6: The idea that white women are like, oh, they're softer
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 6: and they're more gentle and black women need to respect
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 6: the fact that they're built for tough or whatever the
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 6: fuck niggas is thinking.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: I don't think we should make it a black or
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: white thing.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 6: I think we should make it a how do we
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 6: want to engage each other in terms of being loving
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 6: and whatever. How do you want to treat our women?
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: Do we want them to be able to show up
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 6: as their best selves?
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: And I feel like, I don't know if this is
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: old fashioned, whatever, in their full like femininity. I think
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: like when I have that expectation, that's not to say, I.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 6: Think you could work as a woman and work hard
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 6: and accomplish things and still be feminine and not like
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 6: connect any type of masculinity to it. I think us
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 6: separating the idea of suffering and And goodness would be
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 6: more beneficial for us as a community.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: I agree.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: What do y'all mean by suffering? What do y'all say?
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: Being a strong black woman, the idea of that is OD.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: It's something to grow up to be. I'm going to
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: grow up to be a strong black woman. That's what
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: I was saying.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: Shut up, nigga.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: My bad.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: I just be performative. It's fine.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: He was his thought. And she was trying to cut
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: in and I cut over it. Stop being petty. To me,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: this conversation or the one that y'all are having are
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: about partners, right? And what a man can do today
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: versus what hopefully he can aspire to being or doing
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: at some point, right? And women not wanting to engage
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: in that experience with who he is today because they
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: want the end goal faster. Tayshia was like, well, you
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: can't even get there by yourself, but you want him
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: to have it, right? And at some point, the struggle
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: thing came in. What is the struggle life if we're
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: both here?
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: So she mentioned struggle. She mentioned ends.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: But we're saying glory. Because I've heard women say this
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: on the internet. The struggle life. This is what I have.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: You were interested in me. I was interested in you.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: And you realized that I couldn't. And now you can't
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: put up with that.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: When did that happen?
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: Because historically, women and men, like I said, we're dealing
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: with the same situations.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: He went to work. She ain't have it. She dealt
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: with whatever he came home, put it on the table.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: They used to come home with a bag of potatoes
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: and she used to figure out how to make potato soup.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: French fries.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: Like, whatever the fuck she could make out of potatoes
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: because that's what the woman did.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: She created.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? He went out and did
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: what he had to do. Worked the trains or whatever
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: he had to do. But now, they're like, no, I'm
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: not dealing with that.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: So, what is it? How are we glorifying the struggle?
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: What's the race separation in that though? Because there's a
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: lot of women that.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 6: That bag black dudes and this is not me saying
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 6: I'm with a white woman because the whole chat.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to tell you about my girl but like.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Anyways....
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: It's not a black or white thing. I'm just not
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: going to tell you because I think it's just so
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: much more interesting for y'all niggas to.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: Talk about it.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 6: But there are white women, and I feel like there
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 6: have been podcasts to sort of indulge in this or whatever.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 6: They'll get with a nigga in college, and they'll rock
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 6: with them, and they'll do everything they need to do
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 6: to get locked in. And it's because they see the potential.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 6: They're like, yo, you're going to accomplish something. I'm going
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 6: to rock with you until you accomplish it. Now, are
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 6: there such a thing as success wives?
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but some of them are black. They're not all
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: white women. What's a success wife?
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 6: Niggas talk about their first baby mothers or the joint
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 6: they was with when they was broke. And then I
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 6: came up, so now I'm going to upgrade a success wife.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: I'm up now.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, leave her to Kanye and his girl. Kim?
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: I feel like that was still successful.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: The girl that he was dating from back then.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: Oh, I think it was like Alexis something.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: And he left her and then got with Amber Rose.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 6: I can't elaborate on that. I don't know what was
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 6: going on with that situation.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 6: But a lot of people say, hypothetically, a lot of
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 6: people say Kevin Hart's situation is similar to that.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: He had the one situation, then he moved on to...
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: And I don't know people's personal lives.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: But.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: Even in that, they're not always white. The soft life
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: being associated with white women is what I'm trying to address.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: Tay, you was going to say something?
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 5: From his perspective, I was thinking about it differently, but
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 5: from his perspective, I think it should be normalized that
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 5: it's that soft life and that trophy life and that
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 5: good life is not just a white woman thing. It's
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 5: something that black women deserve. It's something that black women
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 5: have because there are a lot of black women that
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 5: have very successful husbands and live very comfortable, lavish lives.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 5: So I think that should be normalized. I do agree
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 5: with that. There's a part of it where, you know,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: if we're talking about how it's perceived successfully, if we're
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 5: talking about black men, then more black men that are,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: and when I say successful, I'm talking about like that
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: extreme level would need to be with black men because
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: statistically it's, Black men are, most black men that are
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 5: married are married to black women. But then you get
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 5: to this level where, okay, he's a multimillionaire. And you
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 5: get to those levels and their wives may not necessarily,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: they're not necessarily black. And if they are black, they
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 5: are mixed with something where you know that they're mixed.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 5: They're not just a regular, oh, she's just a black girl.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: So there's that aspect of the conversation.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: But, you know, that's the whole conversation. I'm going to
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: keep it real with you. Because what everybody in here
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: is saying.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: If you won't struggle with me, if I know that's
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: not in your character, because y'all call it a struggle,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: if you wouldn't get down and dirty with me, I'm
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: treating you, I'm fucking you, I'm spending a couple dollars
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: on you, and I'm keeping it pushing.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 5: I think you should.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: I might spend a couple dollars on you because I
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: like spending money. I like seeing bitches happy when they're
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: getting fucked. But I'm dipping.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: You should.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying? You should.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 5: You don't want to stay up.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: I need my chick to be invested in me the
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: same way I'm invested in her.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 5: I agree.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: And it can't just be like, oh, well, because I
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: treat you a certain way because another nigga going to
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: have more money than me.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: You might meet the bomb. That's a fact.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: If that's all you're looking for.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: If she's for sale, then.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: That's what it is.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: And she will leave you for the man that has
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 5: more money.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: They do it all the time.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 5: If that's all she's focused on.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: By the way, Megan. I want to talk real quick.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: We got 52 seconds left.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: Shorty is black, by the way, because people keep saying
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: she's black, by the way.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: Yo, bro, you ain't have to do that.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: No, I'm just saying, because Carl White is OD at
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: this point.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: You didn't have to do that.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: Megan Thee Stallion implies that Klay Thompson wanted her to
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: scale back her hot girl image to more of a
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: family-oriented one, and that caused her to be in a
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: constant state of panic.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: Oh my God, he doesn't want me to be a hoe.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 5: Nah, come on. Y'all want the girls to hate me.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: Why would you bring this up? Because that's ridiculous.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's bugging.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 5: You in a relationship and he wants you to act
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 5: like you're in a relationship and you're in a state
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 5: of panic. Tahoe, you trolling now.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: Baby, can you please not put your pussy on the camera?
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: This is BSO though. This nigga been trolling us for
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: a long time. I don't know if this caption is correct.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: I kind of see both sides.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: What? How do you see both sides?
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: Because that's her brand. She's an artist.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: She's a failing brand. She don't need to shake ass
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: no more.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 5: Is she a failing brand?
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: But I think there's a way to be sexy without
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: having your fucking ass cheeks and labia on camera, nigga.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: There's mad shit in between. No one's telling you to
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: wear a hijab. Just cover your fucking ass.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: There are ways. There are ways. There are ways.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 8: I mean, that is still Klay Thompson, though, so it
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 8: makes sense.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: One person fucks with me.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: One person. And she's the worst.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: So if she fucks with you, then she's the best.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: But Sean, please tell me how you see both sides.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: Because for Klay Thompson, you're dating Meg Thee Stallion. You
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: know what you're getting into, right?
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: Agreed.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: This is her brand. She's an artist. I don't personally
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: love it. I don't like the whole style that a
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: lot of black women feel like they have to go
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: down as artists. You know what I mean? And I've
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: jokingly said, oh, she's a one-trick pony. Her videos look
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: the same. She always showing ass and twerking, right? But
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: if that's her brand, that's her brand. If I'm going
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: to date her, I'm going to know that's what she
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: is and that's what she represents. What about what Klay
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: Thompson's brand is? Now, I understand the way you represent
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: as a single woman should be a little bit different
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: when we're in a serious relationship. I got to bring
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: you to Thanksgiving and all that. Like, come on, could
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: you scale it back a little bit? I get that,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: a little bit. But you're not going to become this
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: wholesome person and still sell your records and be the
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: artist that you want to be.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: You don't feel like there's an in-between? That's what I'm saying.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: When I've heard women say, oh, the man tried to
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: get with the stripper and he don't want her to
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: be a stripper. They always said, if you're going to
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: take me out to strip club, you got to provide
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: what I was getting in the strip club or more.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: You can't ask me to come down to your level.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: I was already moving away here. Now, Meg.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: The reason I said she's a failed rapper, Clay can
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: give her everything she wants. And we're saying, yo, you
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: already knew she was a this, Meg Thee Stallion, but
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: what about who he was?
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: He's a very off the grid... very, you don't.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: See him out mixy doing this and the other. Why
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: can't they meet in the middle? Which is what he
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: was probably asking her to do. Yo, let's shake him.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: You know, you can shake. Can't have a dress on?
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: You have to have a thong on when you shake. Like,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Like, you don't have to
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: change your whole brand, but I want to introduce you
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: to my grandmother. She was born in Memphis. She's not
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: with all this.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 6: If you want something different, you got to do something different.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 6: If you wanted to do the shit that you were
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 6: doing when you were single.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: Stay single.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: And she's not lit no more. It's over.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 6: I don't want to do that to her brand because
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 6: I think she still has her fans and superstardom isn't
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 6: a thing anymore. But what I'm saying is regardless of
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 6: if she was super lit, it was okay for her to.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: Show her ass? Yeah.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: If she was literally selling like that and she was
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: selling out stadiums.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: She's an attractive girl and I feel like she has
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: more to offer than just having her ass out. I
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: think she could dress sexy and meet in a middle
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: ground where it's just like, yo, you're You're honoring and
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 4: respecting me as your partner.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 6: You were single, so it was cool then. We got together.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 6: I'm telling you, I'm uncomfortable with that now.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 5: You can just take the raunchy out of it. You
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 5: can still be real sexy and just take the raunchy
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 5: out of it. There's also, on the flip side, to
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: play devil's advocate, there is a thing that not all men,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 5: but sometimes men do.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: You meet a woman.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 9: She has.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: A big brand or a big energy or a big personality,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 5: a big vibe, whatever. You meet her, however she is,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 5: y'all get together and now you want to dim that.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: That's a thing.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: That is a real thing.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 5: So we don't know. Was it like a, I want
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 5: to dim this big rapper, popular woman? Or is it like, yo,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 5: I want you to just meet me somewhere in the middle?
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: Your butt cheeks.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 5: If it's that one, if it's like, yo, meet me
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: in the middle. I completely understand. And I think she
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 5: should have. You're not single anymore. If he was trying
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 5: to dim her light as overall, then that's a problem.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 5: But we don't know.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, it has been an amazing three hours
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: and seven minutes. What?
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 5: What time is it?
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: Ten o'clock.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 5: It's ten o'clock?
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: It's 920. This nigga. Yo, stop with him. I'm telling you. Reg,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: please tell these people that he looked at the time.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 5: No, no, no.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: I'm outside.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 6: I remember the two birds, one stone thing. There's actually
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 6: a restaurant up here I wanted to pull up to
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 6: so it works out.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: You said what? Where?
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 6: My boy owns a restaurant up here in Brooklyn called
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 6: Joan Joan.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: It's a Haitian restaurant.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 5: Oh, let's all go. I'm starving.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: Let's all go to a Haitian food.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 5: I'm dead ass.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with it.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: Totally not.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 6: You can find me on Instagram at LTLENG. I think
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 6: that says, I don't know the name. Is it Eon
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 6: or whatever? I didn't say Meg wasn't lit.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: No, he is tapped in to the conversation. No, I
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: just saw that. Not because she was the one person
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: that liked me. Now I'm just like, you know, can
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 4: you tell Pop I love him? I don't, that's weird.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: Who's Pop?
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: He's a co-host of my podcast. Okay.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: Pop is funny though.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: She loves pop. Y'all show period is fun. Y'all show
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: period is fun.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: Reg, your ad name?
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, at L-T-L-E-N-G.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 5: Shout out to Precious.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: I appreciate people that, like, you know, take the time
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: to dislike us. Yo, nah. And that's it. You can
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: find me on Instagram. That's it. You can watch Pillars,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: but niggas ain't going to watch that shit.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: Little engine. Why not? Of course. Why wouldn't we?
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 4: No, I mean, y'all might watch it, but, like, y'all
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 4: niggas aren't.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: These are podcast-listening people. Nah, they're not going to watch
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: that shit. Okay.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: In the comments, saying that they're watching.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 5: Instagram, Tasia, Janine, Oxtober. I'm working with Chef Picky, a
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 5: very extremely talented chef. We are featuring restaurants like Tatiana's, Marquette, Negril.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 5: We are partnering with them. They're going to be featuring
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 5: their oxtail dishes for the entire month of October.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: Let's go.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: We partnered with Ate It app. We're being sponsored by
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 5: Open Table. So check out, download Ate It app. Check
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: out oxtober.com. Any of the restaurants that you've wanted to
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 5: go to if you like Oxdale, they're all working with
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 5: us and their featured Oxdale dish will be paired with
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 5: a 10 to 1 cocktail for some of the restaurants.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 5: And I have a documentary coming out, not right now,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 5: next year, but I'm going to plug it every single
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 5: episode until it comes out. Tough as a mother, keep
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 5: your eyes and ears.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: Open for it. Love that. Tough as a mother. That's hard.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: I like that. They named that shit after you?
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah. They didn't name it after me, but the producer
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 5: had me in mind when.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: He came up with the concept.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: I know just who could be in this motherfucker.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 5: No, no, it's not what you think. I'm literally, there's
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 5: scenes of me like sobbing.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, I know. Because you're going through postpartum.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: You don't seem.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 5: I'm going to fuck you up.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 4: You seem like a wildly pleasant.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: Person to be around.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: I am.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 5: Thank you. So do you.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: Yo, I'm going to link you on the restaurant shit.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: That's fire. All right. That's fire. I love that you
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: always land on your fucking feet. You're amazing. Amazing person. Reg,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: thank you so much.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: I appreciate you, man.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to give you a pound. Tron, you good?
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: I'm great. Good day?
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: Fantastic.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: You going to the Haitian spot with him?
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: I'm going home to spend time with my daughter.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: I dropped her off. It's 930.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 5: I have to go to a repass. I was going
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 5: to go home and change.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: You was just going to the Haitian spot. Now you're
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: going to a funeral. What time is that?
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: What time is that repass? I forgot about the funeral.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 5: Didn't I tell you when I first got here, I
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: had to go to a funeral? I have to go
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 5: home and change. changing to all black now and go
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 5: fucking sob.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: I recommend everybody go to the Haitian spot. It's called
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: Joan Joan.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: Joan Joan.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it is D-J-O-N. Respect, because if Shirley sees this,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 6: I'm going to the Haitian restaurant, Dolo. And if she
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 6: happens to go, she's going to be at the restaurant
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 6: some other time.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying out of respect. Yeah, it's like, I'm
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: going to Dolo.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: Wait, who's going to be at the restaurant?
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 4: What? Yeah, no, just in case, because she was like, oh,
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 4: we're going to the restaurant. Now it seems like.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 6: No, no, we are not going to the restaurant.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: Niggas are going dull to the restaurant.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 5: I am not going anywhere with him.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, just compliment him.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what you be doing. Yo, see?
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 4: Just compliment him.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: I said, let's all go. And then Tom said word,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 5: and then he said, no, I'm not going. And then
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 5: I said, I'm going to a funeral.