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Week Ten · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Music. And welcome back to the Boundary
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  Corner podcast, the part of the College Heddle network, along
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  with my partners, Brian Siegler and Jonathan Tally.
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  I am Curtis Wilson and this episode is brought to you by
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  Gentlemen, how are we doing on a winning Tuesday?
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  Busy, busy, busy. It's been a it's been a little
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  bit of a busy day for me, buddy, but we are we're back at it
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  again. It is a victory Tuesday wasn't
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  an inspiring victory Tuesday, but a win is a win is a win is a
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  win, especially when it keeps you in the ACC hunt.
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  I'm with Brian when he says busy.
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  So football season is over for us here in my household.
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  My son is done with JV football, so he's moved on to basketball.
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  So we're getting ready for basketball season to start up.
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  But you know who's not done with football?
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  The Hokies. They're still winning three in
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  one in conference play, another win.
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  I'll take them any way we can get them 21 to six win over
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  Georgia Tech. So yeah, feeling good, man.
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  Back in the saddle with my guys. Chad is already going.
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  start momentarily. Hey, we already getting it.
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  We we ready to roll. We.
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  Already it has. Begun and all these folks
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  putting this in, we appreciate it.
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  I appreciate that guys. By the way, Steven, I get it,
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  man, Don't worry. Don't worry, Steven, it's going
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  to be on YouTube for you or on your favorite podcast source
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  tomorrow. Well, let's get into telling the
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  truth on this Tuesday, as we do talk about a 26 to 6V over
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  Georgia Tech first thing. The first time since 2012.
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  We'll say that again. The first time since 2012.
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  My son and Brian's son had not been born the last time we beat
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  Georgia Tech at home. That's not a lie.
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  That's not a lie. That's.
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  Crazy. Since they were born and the way
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  I look at it, and y'all kind of said it, we're talking about a
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  win tonight. We're not talking about a loss
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  even though we played like crap. But I'm going to put John on.
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  One side of the ball. 01 side of the ball.
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  Hey, hey. I I don't have a ton of a a ton
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  of nitpicks on the defense. I think offense was definitely
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  uninspired outside of just being absolute hammers in the red
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  zone. Danny, we'll talk about that.
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  But I like what our buddy John Le Cook said.
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  It was a Brian Stein spring win. And you know what?
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  I'm sitting here. Go back in your memory, Banks,
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  everybody, those who are older, that was a Brian Stein spring
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  win. Get a couple explosive plays,
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  get it in the red zone, score, touchdowns, defense forces some
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  turnovers, forces some. Stop that, that.
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  That looked like a 2007 win in some cases.
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  Not even bullshit. Yeah, and, and I mean, other
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  than, you know, I, I think we were probably a little less
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  efficient in the run game that I think a lot of us anticipated
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  we'd be in that game. I think, you know, we we knew
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  that Georgia Tech was good up front and we knew that more than
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  likely they're going to get in there and load the box and force
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  us to beat them through the air, which, you know, isn't their
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  strong suit defensively. But I think it's a good, it's
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  it, you know it, it's a good game plan against, you know what
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  we're doing right now just because we've been OK in the
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  past game, but we have not hit the home runs in the past game
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  that we would like to hit. And until we start taking the
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  top off a little bit more, that's how teams are going to
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  play us. No, I agree.
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  I agree totally. I mean, I'll go ahead, Curtis.
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  Well, I was gonna say that's the stuff that went bad.
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  Hold that tight. Let's talk about what went.
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  We're good tally. Let's talk about the defense
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  man, because first of all, Tally and Brian did not get to to ride
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  the Curtis Wilson roller coaster on Saturday afternoon because
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  Curtis Wilson was at a baseball game literally from the time the
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  game started to pretty much me getting in my car and hearing
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  Bill Roth talking Jalen Jones pick.
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  So they didn't get to ride it. Tally, I appreciate all the
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  updates on Saturday. You kept me sane and not pulling
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  out my phone every 4 seconds to check the score.
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  So what did you see from the defense Saturday?
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  Hammers, man, like Brian said, Hammers is just, they were
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  hidden, they were physical, went back, got against the wall, you
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  know, they bounced off that wall and fought back, got in the
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  corner and fought out like dogs. They didn't let nobody get in
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  the end zone. You know what was the last time
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  we could say that? You know, every time that it
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  looked like something bad was going to happen, the defense
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  stood up and stopped it. So that was definitely good to
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  see because again, like Brian said, the office left a lot to
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  be desired. So defense stepped up and did
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  their job. And guess what, man?
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  That's part of what a good team has to do.
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  You struggle in one area, you pick it up in another area.
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  Yep. And I think the big thing for me
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  was watching, you know, kind of the success they were having
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  getting off the field when they needed to a lot of the times
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  there. So, you know, that was
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  important. We had talked about it being a
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  key. They did well with that.
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  And I think that's that's something that we can keep that
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  up and get the offense back the ball, even if they don't do a
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  whole lot with it. You know, you, you keep getting
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  the getting the team frustrated, keep stealing the momentum back,
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  keeping them off off their off their schedule.
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  You know, good things are going to come because we know that
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  this offense has some weapons. So if the defense can keep doing
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  stuff like that, I think that'll eventually, you know, work,
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  work, work its way back into shape.
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  And Brian, you mentioned it, the money down 6 for 20, they got
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  zero fourth down conversions and it was something like 6 for 15
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  or 6 for 16. I got to pull up the exact stats
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  like they couldn't get much done on 3rd like they.
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  'D get 6 for 20. 6 for 20 total on money.
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  So on 3rd and 4th down. I mean, I'll take that every day
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  twice on Sundays. Let me ask you all this because
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  again, I I watched it condensed and I saw some highlights and
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  some things here and there. But in y'all's opinion and and
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  coach pride mentioned it, but he's actually mentioned the last
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  couple weeks why and and y'all played so y'all can see things
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  and that I don't see why the run fits getting better like why?
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  Like, what has changed really in this last month where he's
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  chuckling over here? So I'm going to let Brian start.
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  Hey, there's already been a comment about it.
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  What's changed? I mean, we kind of know what's
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  changed. Oh, you're talking about that
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  right there. Yeah, Keller has been the the
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  prophecy has finally been fulfilled.
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  It, it took three years and, and we finally got to a point where
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  now we can say that Jane Keller is a starting linebacker,
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  quality player for this defense. And he's always had the physical
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  tools and it, it, it's really just been the mental piece.
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  And for all the, you know, we bring in Brumfield.
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  I think Brumfield has been a solid, if not spectacular
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  addition to the defense. But what he has done is given
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  Keller someone to learn from and someone to be a sounding board
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  for those mental aspects of playing linebacker at this level
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  that he he didn't have at all last year.
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  And, you know, he had in a in a different capacity before that.
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  So I think that's been kind of a levelling thing for him.
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  And, and, and we're starting to see as the season's going on and
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  he's getting, you know, some more interactions there start
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  starting to see that come to fruition and starting to see him
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  really put the pieces together mentally.
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  Because like I said, he's always had those physical traits.
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  He's he's very athletic, he's got good length.
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  He's the type of guy that you want to see in the middle of a
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  defense. And he's starting to have the
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  the the mentals to back that up and be able to go out there and
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  leave the the middle of the defense.
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  Thank you, Tyler, what are you seeing?
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  Yeah, no, kind of what Brian saying, but you also got to add
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  on just the more and more people play together, they get better
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  continuity. You kind of know what somebody's
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  going to be. You feel them kind of playoff of
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  them, playoff their energy. Kiante Jenkins is playing well.
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  He's coming up hitting people, you know, kind of what we knew
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  it could be, but it's not that hit somebody and then he's hurt
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  for two series after that and he's hopping up, he's talking
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  junk, getting back to the huddle, coming back doing again.
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  I think he led us in tackles on on Saturday.
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  So, you know, watching these guys that we know had some
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  talent take just another step is is good.
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  That's what you want to see. That's why the fits are getting
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  better. And I think Brumfield has a lot
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  to do with that. Just showing people how to be a
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  pro. What he lacks in size, he makes
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  up in, you know, experience and just professionalism.
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  You know, you can hear him speak.
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  I'm sure he's in that room telling the guys how to prepare
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  for games and showing them how to prepare for games.
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  And that's why you see somebody like, you know, Jayden Keller
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  take the next step. Yep, and I'll tell you something
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  else y'all saying that I'm also looking at the depth at
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  linebackers. Another reason too, because if
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  you stay fresher, you won't be a sloppy, right?
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  You won't be a sloppy. Georgia Tech had 81 snaps total
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  snaps. They passed the ball a lot
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  because they were down a lot. But you want to know something.
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  You want to know of the linebackers who played the most
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  snaps. And I do consider County Jenkins
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  a linebacker. Probably Jenkins or Woodson.
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  Jenkins and Woodson, Guess what they both did 1 did 62, one did
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  60. So there were 20 plus snaps.
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  They weren't on the field. Lawson got 21.
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  Brumfield got 22, Caleb Spencer got 15, and you got where is it?
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  Jaden Keller got 59. So it's not only that, it's the
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  one, the Unit 1 doing its job, Unit 2.
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  And the way they're mixing and matching, they're staying fresh.
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  We we truly do have a linebacker rotation where I think us three,
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  if we were to say it and I were to say, hey guys, we're going to
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  put Brunfield, we're going to put Lawson and we're going to
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  quit Spencer out. You'll be like, OK, that's three
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  good players that can make plays.
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  It's not like this anymore. Who's on the field?
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  Oh, man, that ain't good. They going to do something
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  stupid and I think that's helping as well that those guys,
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  you said italic, they're all comfortable together and now
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  regardless of combination, they're all getting comfortable.
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  The other thing, Saturday, I know some people might consider
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  this a high number. I look at percentages.
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  We only had eight missed tackles on 81 snaps under 10, right at
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  10%, take 10% all day. On a game like that with 80 plus
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  snaps now you take 10% on 50 maybe not, but 80?
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  I'd take that. And I think, you know, you said,
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  I mean, you're going 6 deep at linebacker now.
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  And I think some of that, yeah, I think at the start of the year
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  there was some some hamming and hawing about the, you know,
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  cross, cross positional play there and things of that nature.
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  But, you know, we're starting to see that level out a little bit.
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  And now we now we're seeing again, we got got 60, we got two
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  guys in just about every spot in there that can go out there and
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  give you significant snaps and not really feel it, feel bad
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  about that, that exposure for them now that's key.
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  That is key. All right, one last piece I want
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  to talk about here and Tally, you mentioned it, but I didn't.
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  I want to know if you knew it was this good.
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  You mentioned every time they got backed up because they
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  pushed us to the red zone a couple times more than a couple
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  times after the game Saturday. This is the fourth ranked red
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  zone defense in the country. They know it was that good.
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  That good and especially and start thinking about the last
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  even the last few weeks what happened to BC where literally
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  they started in the red zone and scored.
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  They never got down there in any other time and then go back to
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  Stanford and even Miami. They only had like one inside
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  the red zone. So this defense is it's it's not
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  only a bend but not break, but in some cases it's effectively
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  you're not even getting past the 50 if the sacks are going on,
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  you're punting a lot and you have what happened on 3rd down.
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  Hey, Brian, you alluded to this law earlier.
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  One other thing that went well, red zone offense and anything.
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  Anything y'all are seeing or what y'all are liking?
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  I mean, I think the big thing is that just clutch play, man.
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  You know, when we're looking at it, it seems like this defense
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  tends to come up with some big plays in the red zone when we
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  need them. Whether it's to get off the
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  field, force a field goal, whether it's a key turnover,
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  whether it's a big stop on a fourth and one or fourth and
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  short. I mean, they seem to always just
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  have the right the right call in there when we need it.
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  And that's been that's been big, I think in, in, in the games in
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  the last month, but obviously big in a game like this Saturday
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  where your offense wasn't doing a whole lot.
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  You needed those stops in order to feel like you could keep the
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  game at arm's length. And that's kind of what what I
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  felt like we did in this game. You know, we, we never really,
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  we didn't dominate. We definitely didn't dominate
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  from a just pure yard standpoint, but we always kept
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  them at arm's length throughout the game and that was really on
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  the defense and especially on that red zone defense.
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  Tally. No, I agree.
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  I mean, again, just kind of like, like Brian said, you know,
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  keeping it at at arm's length defense, just going out, playing
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  hard, being able to rotate those guys in often is doing just
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  enough for us to put the points on the board and and and take
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  the game. So you kind of seen it man where
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  we the defence is like they was trying to give the offense a
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  kick in the butt sometimes you know what I'm saying?
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  It's like OK, y'all messed up here.
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  You, you made a bad play here, you did this.
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  Then we come back with a we come back with a pick, you know, give
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  it to your plus territory. We come back with a special
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  teams play, give it to you in plus territory.
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  It's like OK, go do something with it.
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  So just just kept, just kept grinding, man, Just kept
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  grinding. All right, I'm going to make
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  this real quick. And as we go over, because there
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  were some bad things and even though we won the game, you
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  always got to look at we got to improve on.
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  Do you all know this? The last three games, 11 for 11
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  inside the red zone, 11 did. Not know.
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  That 11 for 11, you know, the last time we haven't, we didn't
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  score inside the red zone. Who was that?
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  What? What's the play that pissed you
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  off the most in the last game? Was it Miami?
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  Is that fucking fake field goal that the last time we did not
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  score in the red zone was right there?
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  We scored in the red zone one time against them.
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  Makes you a little bit upset because you think how we're
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  doing it. Like if we would have just ran a
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  normal play, we score a touchdown and that game is
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  history. All right, let's go over to the
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  offensive line and let's talk about the definitely the
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  troubles are reappearing there. Brian, you looked at some film
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  and what happened because obviously we 14 pressures on 31
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  drop backs. That's way too much, but 111 of
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  the 117 were after contact. So this wasn't just a pass pro
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  issue, this was a run block issue as well and if we don't
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  have guys like Tooting and drones who are absolute hosses
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  to take down, this would not have been good.
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  Yeah, I mean, I when you look at it, it's a it's a combination of
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  things here. The offensive line obviously
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  didn't have a great game, but what the defense was doing, they
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  were absolutely selling out for the run.
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  And they were basically saying, Kyron, you got to beat us,
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  especially in the intermediate and in deep areas of the field.
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  They were trying to take away as much of the short stuff as they
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  could and take away as much as the run as they could.
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  They did a pretty good job of doing that.
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  But you know, at at the same time, you know, you got to be
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  able to take advantage of what the defense is giving you.
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  And they were giving us throws down the field and we did not do
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  a good job of taking advantage of that.
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  Some of that was offensive line not giving Kyron in time.
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  Some of that was Kyron missing a couple of those shots down the
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  field when he had those one-on-one situations.
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  Some of that was just a combination of play calling and
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  just not not getting guys in spots of the field where Kyron
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  could get comfortable. And I think that's kind of the
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  the theme of the day is that we never, I think had a chance
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  offensively to get Kyron really comfortable in the passing game
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  in in those timing areas. And that kind of threw off his
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  game as a whole when we look at him throwing the football deeper
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  down the field. What about you?
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  I don't know if you got to hear Brian, you got unfortunately
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  disconnected there, but you know, couldn't run, struggles
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  passing. We looked at the PFF and some of
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  these guys got really good grades and they may have overall
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  did fine, but overall as a unit, something we talked about and I
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  think this is the truth, why you can't always judge PFF.
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  We were talking about it before we got on the night tally.
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  Me, you and Brian. PFF never counts for like the
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  big plays that screwed things up.
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  It's just did you win or did you lose?
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  Because you could win on 30 drop backs, you could win 20 of them.
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  But what if the 10 you gave up three sacks that took you out of
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  scoring range, that stopped drives?
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  That's a hell of a lot more negative than somebody, you
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  know, giving up a slight pressure.
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  Yeah, there's there's no weight, there's no weight attached to
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  the to the to the play by play grade.
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  So. But what, what do you think,
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  Charlie? You, you, you got to see the
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  game live in the moment. So and I know you, you listen to
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  Brian and and you do second reviews yourself, but what was
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  wrong with the offensive line with you?
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  Kind of like, I mean, Thomas kind of hit it on the hit the
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  nail on the head a little bit in in the chat when you talk about
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  the slow developing pass plays, things like that, you know,
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  predictable play calling sometimes that's the main two
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  things. We'll just say that the slow
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  developing pass plays where first play of the game, you drop
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  Karen back to do whatever. We don't even get to see it
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  because he's hit 10 yard loss and fumbles the ball.
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  Thank the Lord we got on it. Like you just don't need that.
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  You know, you don't need that. That's not what we do.
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  Well, that's not what he does. Well, you know what I'm saying?
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  I just think we can do some things different and then it
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  goes to the next one. What I said, predictable play
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  calling, which is might be what they were trying to do.
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  Hey, let's you know, everybody's seen this.
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  Let's do something different. Georgia Techs defensive and
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  offensive line were were really good like they're they're
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  they're solid. I was going to say they're
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  really good, but they're solid. They're going to be when we look
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  back on this, we're going to go, hey, that was one of the better
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  lines that we face. That was one of the better
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  defensive lines that we face. They're very physical.
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  They they were tough. You know what I'm saying that
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  you can tell that they're well coached.
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  So it starts in the churches and sometimes we just got, you know,
• 22:37
  you don't get beat and the only thing you can do to beat a
• 22:42
  better player on that play is to out scheming, which we did.
• 22:48
  And we got some points when we out schemed them.
• 22:52
  So, you know, I'll take that. But yeah, the slow development
• 22:56
  plays and predictable play calling sometimes because I
• 22:58
  mean, you got to thank Tude had 80 yards and it was that was a
• 23:01
  tough 80 yards to get. But a lot of the plays that he
• 23:05
  was running and they would that we ran for him, we're plays that
• 23:10
  we've run all year. And like if you're a decent
• 23:12
  defensive coordinator, like you see the motions and you see the
• 23:16
  different setups and you like, I know what's coming here.
• 23:18
  You know what I'm saying? Like so got to find a way to
• 23:22
  throw some wrinkles in there and do some different things like
• 23:24
  that. Yeah.
• 23:26
  And and, and, and that's why I kind of going to pivot to what
• 23:27
  we're going to go to next and it's talking about the offensive
• 23:29
  play calling because I mean, first of all, the, the what have
• 23:34
  we been saying? We cannot be a 5050 team.
• 23:37
  We were a 5050 team Saturday and we won.
• 23:41
  Thank you. Because I mean, the honest truth
• 23:44
  is it's a, it's a, it's a prayer.
• 23:46
  We won. But my thing is, and I want to
• 23:49
  talk to you all about this because I'm sitting here
• 23:52
  watching condensed, watching some highlights and I see what
• 23:56
  Georgia Tech's doing. And I know like, we shut them
• 23:59
  down. Who cares what they're doing if
• 24:02
  we attacked? Like that we would look good
• 24:04
  doing that. We would.
• 24:06
  It would have been 42 six. Right, rolling the pocket, you
• 24:12
  know, dumping off into the flats, hitting the crossing
• 24:16
  routes, you know, different things like that, Yeah.
• 24:20
  Yeah. I mean, that's kind of what I
• 24:21
  was alluding to. And I was talking about we
• 24:22
  didn't do enough early in the game to get Kyron comfortable
• 24:26
  because I mean, we talked about it on here before and and I'll
• 24:29
  keep preaching. I mean, when, when Kyron has
• 24:32
  confidence early in a game, he is a different football player.
• 24:35
  He is one of the best quarterbacks that you could have
• 24:39
  in the country. When he is confident early in a
• 24:41
  football game, when he doesn't get that early confidence, you
• 24:46
  know, he, he, he's, he's, he can be very average at times.
• 24:50
  And, and when, when that happens, you know, as a
• 24:54
  coordinator, you got to take a cue there and understand that
• 24:58
  I've got to get him comfortable. I've got to get him early wins.
• 25:02
  And I don't think you know totality to your point that that
• 25:05
  opening play call, you know, it's aggression and it's a
• 25:09
  little bit off your normal schedule.
• 25:12
  But at the same time it it probably plays into Kyron's
• 25:17
  biggest weakness as a thrower and your offense's biggest
• 25:20
  weakness as a whole in terms of drop back pass protection.
• 25:23
  So, you know, you kind of played a little bit into the defense's
• 25:27
  hands, even though you were mixing up what, what your normal
• 25:32
  script would be. So you know that that kind of
• 25:35
  puts you behind the chains early and then you don't really kind
• 25:38
  of get into a good offensive rhythm until later in the in the
• 25:42
  first quarter there. And, and I think that that's a
• 25:46
  big thing for this Virginia Tech offense is that you've seen
• 25:49
  anytime we start early, we score points, anytime we don't start
• 25:54
  early, it's it's a slog. And, and so that's, that's
• 25:58
  something to keep an eye on and that's something to monitor.
• 26:02
  And I think as a coaching staff, you got to address and say, we
• 26:05
  got to give this offense the chance to get some of those wins
• 26:09
  early. I mean, it doesn't always have
• 26:10
  to be the first drive. Like sometimes you just go have
• 26:12
  drives where they got your number right at the gate, but
• 26:15
  you got to find ways to get your quarterback comfortable in the
• 26:17
  passing game. So you can lean on your run game
• 26:21
  because that is the strength of your team.
• 26:23
  But if you're not able to get your quarterback comfortable,
• 26:27
  that's when the defense can tee up in the box and, and, and take
• 26:31
  away your biggest asset, which is that rushing attack.
• 26:35
  Well, let me ask this Brian and and I and I hit you up solo on
• 26:39
  this and Batali chime in as well.
• 26:41
  When they got to load in the box and you could see it, me
• 26:44
  watching condensed, you could see 7-8 guys around the box.
• 26:48
  They knew where we were running the ball at times and what I
• 26:51
  didn't see were hot routes, quick throws, you know, like you
• 26:55
  say, Tally, just just something in the flat.
• 26:57
  They got aid in the box. If you're doing anything like
• 27:00
  pulling Basil out or Jay Lane to the flat or you're running a
• 27:03
  quick slant or a quick hitch or a quick out, sometimes that goes
• 27:08
  completely out of the playbook. Where I feel like we sit here, I
• 27:12
  listen to y'all and y'all would say if you just ran A4 yard
• 27:16
  slant where that linebacker snuck down into the box to Jay
• 27:19
  Lane. If the if the quarterback ain't
• 27:22
  right on his hip and that safety don't make the right step, see
• 27:26
  you, you're giving a 50 yard play.
• 27:29
  And and I feel like we're not seeing that as much this year.
• 27:32
  At least I'm not again, my eyes aren't as trained as y'all's.
• 27:36
  Like we saw at times last year. Always go back to the Wake
• 27:38
  Forest play and it was like a 8 yard slant.
• 27:41
  They loaded the box. There was one safety up, the
• 27:45
  little RPO. That safety did a false step.
• 27:49
  Kyron put it right on Jay Lane and he housed it for 70 yards.
• 27:52
  And it's like, if you're going to loosen, why aren't?
• 27:56
  And Sheldon said it last week, and this is what irritates me.
• 27:59
  Kyron's intermediate passing game has gotten so much better
• 28:02
  this year. And it's like we just abandoned
• 28:04
  it. Abandoned first play of the
• 28:07
  game. We're going to go with a double
• 28:08
  move. Well, why don't you go with a
• 28:10
  play action like a crosser or Benji up the scene, like
• 28:14
  something where, you know, this is his comfort zone and it's
• 28:18
  like they try to go away from it and then we screw around and
• 28:21
  next thing you know, we're all sitting here, man, we going to
• 28:23
  do something stupid. We're going to lose this game.
• 28:25
  They making brown smoke cigarettes.
• 28:26
  They make me slip on the bottle at the baseball game tally.
• 28:30
  I don't know what you're doing, but we all doing something, try
• 28:33
  to calm ourselves down, you know?
• 28:35
  Sorry, pacing through the house with my shirt off.
• 28:37
  Hey, that's what I'm doing. You know, and, and, and for that
• 28:41
  first down play like, let's call something like 1/2 roll and you
• 28:45
  know, get, get like 1/2 field read, do like a, you know, a, a,
• 28:51
  a go route with a deep crosser. You know, something where you
• 28:55
  get, you know, 11 read 2 read, check down.
• 29:00
  And and and make that something where if Kyron, if it ain't
• 29:04
  there, if he's got pressure, he can easily get rid of the
• 29:06
  football and and and play another down instead of having a
• 29:10
  guy in his face ball on the ground and you know, thankfully
• 29:14
  gets back on it. Yeah, I don't.
• 29:16
  I mean, again, I'm not going to get on Tebow too much because
• 29:19
  some of it is execution from what I see.
• 29:22
  I have to put stuff on players, but players play, you know,
• 29:25
  can't miss blocks, can't miss people running wide open across
• 29:28
  the middle of the field, different things like that.
• 29:31
  But I will say, just looking at the team, I feel like Chris Marv
• 29:39
  knows what the identity is and he tries to stick to that.
• 29:43
  You know, he knows what his defensive identity is and for
• 29:47
  good or for bad, he's leaning into it and you can see him
• 29:51
  building on it each week. Now with our offense, I see us,
• 29:57
  it's kind of like we got a lot of shiny toys and whichever 1 is
• 30:01
  got new batteries, that's the one we use that week, you know
• 30:04
  what I'm saying? Like sometimes I kind of feel
• 30:05
  like that's how it is. And on one hand, you do need to
• 30:08
  see some different plays. Like I've seen some different
• 30:10
  plays that I haven't seen, you know, in in two years, you know,
• 30:14
  this game. Hey, we.
• 30:15
  Got a Philly special? Yeah, Philly Special flea
• 30:19
  flicker. You know, I've seen a couple
• 30:21
  things like that. But also to do all that stuff,
• 30:24
  you still have to have our identity.
• 30:26
  You know what I'm saying? I still feel like we're trying
• 30:28
  to we're struggling to lean into that identity.
• 30:33
  So we got to do it. We we got to know what makes us
• 30:38
  good. We got to lead into that.
• 30:40
  And then some of the other stuff that can come off of that.
• 30:42
  So again, I compared like, you know, offense to defense of Marv
• 30:45
  to Tebow, but he both got his hands full because when we're
• 30:51
  good, we're good. When we're bad, we're bad on
• 30:53
  offense, you know what I'm saying?
• 30:54
  So I know he's I know he's trying.
• 30:57
  That's not a middle, but so I know he's trying to, you know,
• 31:00
  make some things work. And he did it again, I got to
• 31:03
  give him his props. Like he's seen what we couldn't
• 31:05
  move the ball and we were having some problems and he pulled some
• 31:08
  stuff out that, you know, progressed us down the field,
• 31:13
  which is what we needed to win. But at the same time, I still
• 31:16
  think, like Curtis said, when we started this, you get some of
• 31:20
  those hot rods, like on the 1st drive, not the first drive, but
• 31:23
  the second drive, you know, when we hit Benji, he's wide open.
• 31:28
  You know what I'm saying? It was nothing but a hot rod,
• 31:29
  you know, So you did some motion to kind of mess them up and send
• 31:33
  somebody out to the flats and they don't know who to cover.
• 31:35
  And they think, well, actually what they did was it was pretty,
• 31:37
  that was pretty genius play call.
• 31:39
  So they moved the tackle to the other side, you know, they moved
• 31:43
  the one tackle to the other side.
• 31:44
  So you got 2 tackles on one side.
• 31:46
  Yeah. So then you got Benji lined up
• 31:48
  on the on the line and it looks like he's a tackle, but he is a
• 31:52
  eligible receiver and he just hits hot right up the scene.
• 31:56
  So great play design, but you don't have to stop at one play.
• 32:00
  Like you can build off. You can build off that, off
• 32:05
  that, that set, you know what I'm saying?
• 32:07
  Just things like that. Let me let me put my thumb right
• 32:10
  on the problem and I'm going to I'm going to do it by asking a
• 32:12
  question when it comes to the passing game.
• 32:16
  What is the bread and butter of this offense?
• 32:21
  Racial. Tune.
• 32:23
  Now I'm saying from a passing standpoint.
• 32:26
  The pass it don't work unless you got him.
• 32:29
  Right now that that's, that's my point.
• 32:31
  There's not really, you don't have a bread and butter play in
• 32:33
  this playbook that says when we need yards, when we need a first
• 32:37
  down, when we need 7, when we need 8.
• 32:40
  We don't have a play that's like, all right, this is what
• 32:43
  this is where Kyron feels the most comfortable.
• 32:46
  I don't feel like we've seen it. I feel like there are.
• 32:49
  We scheme ourselves into these situations and scheme our way
• 32:53
  out of them sometime. But we don't have a Kelly, you
• 32:57
  were talking about identity. We don't really have an identity
• 33:00
  from a passing standpoint that says we do this really good
• 33:03
  really consistently. Let me ask you this, Brian and
• 33:06
  Curtis too, but Brian said she said that because this is
• 33:09
  something I talk about a lot of times, no disrespect to our wide
• 33:13
  receivers, but I'm watching certain plays and I'm watching,
• 33:17
  you know, kind of going back and watching tape and things like
• 33:20
  that. Do you think that is is because
• 33:22
  we don't separate enough on our wide receivers aren't separate
• 33:26
  enough because sometimes we have the opportunity to make plays,
• 33:31
  but maybe somebody in the open, maybe somebody didn't see it.
• 33:35
  What do y'all think is going on kind of with the receiver room?
• 33:39
  I don't, I think they do get separation.
• 33:41
  I don't think it's consistently. I don't think it's like it's
• 33:44
  not. It's to me.
• 33:46
  I would want it to be. Well, one person, one we won't
• 33:49
  be clear. One person gets separation all
• 33:52
  the time. But go ahead.
• 33:54
  I know who that is. I will let you mention in a
• 33:56
  little while here, that text I read while at the game was that
• 34:01
  play, but I think it's about it's not consistently, it's not
• 34:05
  consistently where, you know, you got somebody 75, somebody
• 34:08
  60. You know, you got Felton who's a
• 34:10
  big guy, He's physical where you almost want to say is you've got
• 34:14
  to trust his big body to go get the ball.
• 34:17
  You've got to trust they're going to win these battles.
• 34:19
  So it I don't think it's like to a point where it's like, Oh my
• 34:22
  God, they can never get separation.
• 34:24
  But it's not, I think it's to you what you said earlier, it's
• 34:28
  not at the comfort level it needs to be for Kyron to feel
• 34:31
  comfortable just letting the ball go.
• 34:34
  Like he knows he's going to get off that press or he's going to
• 34:38
  get the separation on that cut. And I will put it right there on
• 34:41
  them. Right.
• 34:43
  Yeah, I'm understanding that. Yeah, I'm, I, I think we got, we
• 34:48
  got some guys that they get separation.
• 34:50
  But I to to Curtis's point, I think the consistency is, is
• 34:53
  probably the bigger issue. And I think maybe when we think
• 34:57
  about separation and we think about how our offensive line is,
• 35:00
  I think we're not seeing separation maybe early in the
• 35:04
  snap as much as we want to see it.
• 35:06
  I think our guys get open, but sometimes I think they get open
• 35:11
  at a time where Kyron's already either made a decision to step
• 35:15
  up, climb the ladder. I think sometimes, sometimes if
• 35:19
  he sees the tight coverage before the break, he's not
• 35:23
  always anticipating the separation out of the break.
• 35:28
  And so he kind of makes that decision there.
• 35:30
  So there's, there's there's a lot of different factors.
• 35:32
  I think that's playing into that.
• 35:33
  Some of that's on Kyra and some of that's on, you know, the
• 35:36
  receiver route running. So I think there's, there's
• 35:38
  blame across the board here, you know, even going going to the
• 35:42
  play call in itself, I think there's there's a little blame
• 35:45
  to be passed around. But like I said, I think I'd
• 35:47
  like to see us figure out what we really do well in the passing
• 35:51
  game and maybe lean on that a little bit more, especially when
• 35:54
  we have games like Georgia Tech where we really couldn't find
• 35:58
  consistency in the run game because of the way they were
• 36:01
  playing in the. Box right?
• 36:03
  I'm I'm going to say this and it's and it's going back to
• 36:06
  simple, it's schematics tally like you mentioned a little
• 36:08
  while ago, move in the pocket, rolling Kyron out.
• 36:13
  That's a scheme thing because what that does y'all know both
• 36:17
  from playing the second that pocket is rolled like on a
• 36:20
  second and 8th you roll the pocket on it's a pass play.
• 36:24
  Wait a second though. If, if, if we F up and he gets a
• 36:27
  step, Kyron can get 10 yards. If if we really F up he can get
• 36:30
  35. Right.
• 36:32
  We're not putting them, we're not putting the defense to have
• 36:35
  to make a decision because what normally happens when the pocket
• 36:38
  rolls, safety or linebackers do something, they move out of the
• 36:41
  place. What usually happens there is a
• 36:43
  you're running somebody right into where the potentially that
• 36:46
  gap could be, right. Oh, I'm going to run a little
• 36:48
  crosser. Well, that safety just came up
• 36:50
  because he saw Kyron. Well, now Kyron's got an easy
• 36:52
  third down field. Oh, he didn't come up.
• 36:54
  Well, now it's going to be the linebacker trying to beat Kyron
• 36:57
  to the boundary and regardless, Karen's going to get the
• 37:01
  positive yards. The other thing that I we have
• 37:03
  not seen I feel like since the first month of the season where
• 37:07
  the orbit motions with Jane Logan go.
• 37:10
  Why aren't we orbit motioning guys in the backfield?
• 37:12
  Because y'all know that's a separation creator and that's
• 37:14
  moving guys. That's the safeties looking.
• 37:16
  Wait a second, where'd he just go?
• 37:18
  Well, he just came off the left side.
• 37:20
  Oh, I'm in cover too. I got to see where he is because
• 37:22
  if he comes back up the scene, he's probably coming into my
• 37:24
  zone. It's like we're not doing
• 37:26
  schematic things that could open guys up that could make getting
• 37:30
  separation easier. And to me that goes back to
• 37:34
  Tyler Bowen. Like, dude, these things are
• 37:37
  easy. And if they're not working, if
• 37:39
  they've got it figured out, then you put it back in the lunch,
• 37:41
  you put it back in the playbook and say I'm not going to do that
• 37:44
  today. But that's what irritates me
• 37:47
  because when I see a pocket roll for a semi mobile quarterback,
• 37:51
  oh, and they break 06 yards. Well, now it's third and two,
• 37:54
  that defense is all in a bond, right?
• 37:56
  What are they going to do? They're going to run facial,
• 37:58
  they're going to run Chiron. They're going to run some little
• 38:00
  pass. They're going to take a deep
• 38:01
  shot. You know, they're going they're
• 38:03
  going to run a little screen. Everything's open.
• 38:06
  And we're not doing that. We're effectively not putting
• 38:09
  ourselves in good situations like that and it's irritating.
• 38:15
  Yeah. I mean, I think when we look at
• 38:16
  the motion, I, I think that, you know, we've talked about it.
• 38:20
  Bowen has done a really good job with motion to scheme for
• 38:24
  certain plays. But I, I, I would like to see
• 38:26
  him being, being a little more consistent with how we use
• 38:31
  motion to isolate guys in, in favorable matchups to, to just,
• 38:38
  you know, to just move the sticks.
• 38:40
  I feel like we, we do a good job on those kind of those big
• 38:44
  plays, those, those, those plays where we're going to get chunk
• 38:47
  plays, but we don't use motion really well just to get a guy 5
• 38:52
  or 6 yards. And you could.
• 38:54
  And I and I think that's where, where, where there could be some
• 38:57
  improvement. That's it right there.
• 38:59
  That's it right there. It's the little small gains that
• 39:02
  instead of making it third and eight, it's third and two or
• 39:04
  third and three and then everything's open.
• 39:08
  And and you all both know it's like because we as fans just
• 39:12
  say, what are they going to do? And they just going to run a
• 39:14
  little zone read option. They just going to run off
• 39:16
  tackle inside zone, power run. Everything's open and the
• 39:20
  defense got to guess. And if defense screws up and
• 39:22
  guesses on our team and I know we're not always pumping them
• 39:27
  up, but if you screw up and mess around with our team and
• 39:30
  somebody gets it and there's nobody there, it's not a 10 yard
• 39:34
  gain, it's 30, it's 40 or it's a house call and then you sit over
• 39:38
  here right now we're down. All right, let me let me get off
• 39:40
  that because I can go on forever.
• 39:42
  This was bad. Now it seems better tally
• 39:46
  throughout the game, tech techs and X back on the sideline
• 39:49
  exert. Then I saw the Tooting play and
• 39:53
  it was just like oh God here we go again.
• 39:55
  But if y'all didn't get to hear it and prize presser, I know we
• 39:58
  were trying to listen to it while we were working.
• 40:01
  Both are probable. And did y'all see the J Lane
• 40:06
  interview? Yeah, yeah, I've seen the clip
• 40:09
  from it. Did you?
• 40:10
  See. Go ahead, Tally.
• 40:11
  And for those who haven't seen it, what J Lane said about Basil
• 40:14
  Thuden. He did pretty much said he was a
• 40:17
  drama queen whenever he gets hurt and that he will be fine.
• 40:21
  He'd be ready to go. So you know, it's just a team
• 40:24
  thing, man. They, you know, they talk to
• 40:26
  each other all the time, They seeing each other all the time.
• 40:28
  So you know, they won't they want their brother to be out
• 40:32
  there ready to play. But you know, there is something
• 40:34
  that you still got to worry about because if he if he is a
• 40:37
  little GIMP, you know what I'm saying, he's going to get nicked
• 40:41
  up in the game. You know, you got to find some
• 40:43
  ways to, you know, protect him and also, you know, when you
• 40:47
  have a ankle sprain or something like that, you know it it could
• 40:51
  cause you not to have the same burst that you have without
• 40:54
  having that ankle sprain. So something to keep an eye on.
• 40:58
  But even more than that, which is really important.
• 41:01
  You know, X has got nicked up a lot.
• 41:04
  You know, it's not just been one thing that you can pick or two
• 41:08
  things like, you know, shoulder knee, one game, ankle one game.
• 41:13
  So that's a big man, you know what I'm saying?
• 41:15
  Every time he goes down, you like, oh Lord, because it's a
• 41:19
  big, He's a big piece of the big piece of the puzzle that we need
• 41:22
  to move forward and be good. Yeah, and I mean, we talked
• 41:25
  about the, you know, the the PFF grades there and he didn't have
• 41:28
  good Pratt Pass programs in this in this particular matchup.
• 41:32
  And you know, some of that can be attributed to pretty much
• 41:34
  having a a bum shoulder for the majority of the snaps he saw in
• 41:38
  that game. But you know, to me, Pride
• 41:42
  coming out and saying two players are probable to play
• 41:45
  means they're playing because Pride is very, he's very
• 41:50
  forthcoming with a lot of things, but he is rarely
• 41:53
  forthcoming with the status of a player that is injured.
• 41:58
  So if he's being forthcoming with that, then they're playing.
• 42:01
  This is true. Very true.
• 42:04
  All right. Let's wrap this up real quick.
• 42:07
  Kind of put the last two questions back-to-back.
• 42:10
  Brian, anything that you weren't prepared for Saturday while
• 42:14
  looking at tape during the game? I know you were doing some
• 42:16
  things. I thought we would win more in
• 42:20
  the receiving game. I thought it was going to be a
• 42:23
  similar situation to like we saw against Stanford where you know
• 42:29
  they might load the box. They already have a pretty good
• 42:31
  rush defense, but we'll be able to take advantage of some of
• 42:34
  what they do in the secondary, and for a variety of reasons
• 42:39
  that just never came to fruition outside of a handful of plays.
• 42:43
  All right, tally anything you want purple because you watched
• 42:46
  it in live in color with your shirt off.
• 42:47
  Walk around the house. Yeah, I mean, pretty much what
• 42:49
  Brian said that when you talk about the passing game, but I'll
• 42:52
  go a little bit step farther. Like I wasn't prepared for us to
• 42:58
  not be productive in the passing game like I thought we would be
• 43:03
  and still win the game by two, two touchdowns.
• 43:07
  You know what I'm saying? Like that was pretty impressive.
• 43:10
  I guess you can play because I talked to Chris a lot, you know,
• 43:15
  shout out to Chris Lester, my guy.
• 43:16
  And we talked about like this was going to be the game where
• 43:20
  they were going to load the box, we were going to have to throw
• 43:23
  the ball and going to make Kyron beat us with his arm and we beat
• 43:26
  him about two touchdowns. Still wasn't as effective as I
• 43:30
  thought we would be or needed to be, but still 1:21 to 6:00 so I
• 43:35
  wouldn't prepare for that. Yeah, gritty, gritty win for a
• 43:39
  team that under pride hasn't had a ton of wins like that.
• 43:43
  Right? So still.
• 43:44
  Double digits, but it didn't feel double digits.
• 43:46
  No, it was, it was a, it was a very tightly contested game
• 43:50
  despite like I said, having the the arm's length lead for for
• 43:55
  the majority of that game. So yeah, I agree with you,
• 43:58
  Tally. All right, y'all heard mine a
• 44:00
  little earlier. It's just the defensive snap
• 44:02
  counts because a lot of young guys getting involved, the
• 44:06
  rotations getting heavier, Burgos playing a lot, Nelson
• 44:10
  playing a lot Ace and Steven getting 10 snaps APR, the
• 44:14
  defensive tackles keeping that rotation.
• 44:17
  That's what I love to see because as the season gets on,
• 44:20
  especially the defense, everybody gets nicked.
• 44:22
  And now it's that point where if you see Aeson Stevens in like he
• 44:27
  got 10 steps, but if you see him pop in, it's like it's all
• 44:30
  right. He he can get things done.
• 44:33
  He's been in there for 10 steps and you call his name at least
• 44:35
  two times in those ten snaps. I mean, he's making his presence
• 44:39
  felt within those 10 plays. Yep, all.
• 44:41
  Right. What can we do better moving
• 44:43
  forward? Jonathan Talley.
• 44:45
  Passing game we got to do, we got to make that passing game
• 44:48
  better, whether that's getting, you know, separation or that's,
• 44:53
  you know, hitting those crossing routes or if that's calling some
• 44:57
  like everything in the passing and we got to do it better.
• 45:00
  I mean, you got to have an identity, but you can't be A1
• 45:03
  dimensional team and and win these last four games.
• 45:06
  You know, we don't need all hands on deck.
• 45:09
  So we got to get that passing game moving, you know, in the
• 45:12
  right direction. Ron.
• 45:14
  We've got to start connecting on some of those deep one-on-one
• 45:19
  opportunities because you you can get yourself out of some
• 45:25
  stacked boxes if you start making defenses pay for that.
• 45:28
  And I think we did a better job of that last year than we've
• 45:31
  done at any point this year. I think scheme wise, we've hit
• 45:35
  some big plays this year. I don't think we went out there
• 45:38
  and won a ton of one-on-one matchups with the deep ball down
• 45:41
  the field. All right, there we go there and
• 45:44
  mine is just keep finishing, keep finishing, drive in the red
• 45:49
  zone, keep finishing like we did at the end, keep finishing teams
• 45:52
  off on 3rd and 4th down. Because if you keep doing that
• 45:57
  effectively, you break teams wills when you do that, when you
• 46:01
  keep scoring touchdowns or would they get inside the red zone?
• 46:04
  They can't score or they kick field goals.
• 46:07
  You, you, you just kind of see it on people's faces in their
• 46:09
  hearts. It's like, man, we just they're
• 46:11
  going to get in or we ain't getting in.
• 46:14
  And and that's one of those things it builds confidence when
• 46:18
  you see the D confidence that the other team has.
• 46:23
  All righty, as you all know, we are brought to you by the counts
• 46:26
  family pharmacy, your friendly neighborhood pharmacy, three O 1
• 46:29
  S Main St. in Blacksburg. Let's get over.
• 46:32
  Let's get to know the enemy and let's talk about the Syracuse
• 46:36
  Orange man current record of five and two.
• 46:40
  And we do want to start with their offensive side of the
• 46:43
  ball. And Brian, this offense is led
• 46:45
  by Jeff Nixon and Co OC Michael Johnson.
• 46:49
  Give us a little info on these two guys.
• 46:52
  Yeah, it's very much a, it's a spread offense.
• 46:55
  I mean you're getting A and it's a throw first offense.
• 46:57
  It's very it's kind of air raid esque, but they definitely throw
• 47:01
  the ball down feel a little bit more than you would be used to
• 47:03
  in an air raid concept there. They care a lot more about just
• 47:08
  getting those the ball in those playmakers hands and they do
• 47:10
  about any sort of offensive balance.
• 47:13
  I mean it it's basically a 6535 pass to to run there and at
• 47:19
  times it doesn't even feel like that.
• 47:22
  They are very much a a pass first offense and it starts and
• 47:26
  ends with Kyle McCord. All right, Callie, let's get
• 47:29
  some background on McCord because I think most people know
• 47:32
  him. Oh, Kyle McCord transferred in
• 47:35
  from Ohio State. He is a New Jersey kid, I
• 47:41
  believe, had some good offers coming out of high school.
• 47:46
  High 4 star, I think 92 was about where he was at.
• 47:50
  Came in highly, you know, in the transport portal, highly, highly
• 47:54
  ranked, came to Syracuse. And for the most part, you know,
• 48:00
  he's been effective this year. He's kind of been AI don't know
• 48:03
  a tale of two years, two halves for him.
• 48:06
  I heard early in the season how great he was.
• 48:10
  But then I also heard later in the season was, see, there he
• 48:12
  is. That's why you know, he had to
• 48:14
  leave Ohio State because he couldn't make stuff work with
• 48:17
  those wide receivers he had there.
• 48:19
  He never going to be able to make it work.
• 48:20
  So anyway, stat wise, we know he has 19 touchdowns and 11
• 48:25
  interceptions. How many came last Thursday?
• 48:29
  Say. 5506 was it 5 or 655 and 1:00?
• 48:33
  Three of them were picked. Six of the pick now I will say
• 48:36
  this and I'll let you know Brian, get into it a little bit.
• 48:43
  I've learned to try to, you know, go week by week with these
• 48:48
  talking about teams and looking at teams.
• 48:50
  And also I try to just wait till we're getting ready to play them
• 48:54
  because I heard that this team was Syracuse at the beginning of
• 48:58
  the season, same as Georgia Tech.
• 48:59
  All they're going to kill us all.
• 49:01
  They're just so talented. They this well, I'm looking at
• 49:04
  their record. I've never paid attention to it.
• 49:06
  Syracuse played Ohio beat them 38 to 22.
• 49:12
  Georgia Tech beat them 31 to 28. Stanford lost to them. 2624 Holy
• 49:19
  Cross, 42 to 14, UNLV, they won 44 to 41 in overtime.
• 49:29
  North Carolina State, they beat them 24 to 17.
• 49:33
  And then Pitt, they got Skull Drug 41 to 13, which so again,
• 49:40
  you kind of see, like, of course, every team's different,
• 49:43
  every week's different. But I think Pitt's defense was
• 49:46
  something more than Syracuse has seen this season.
• 49:52
  You know, even Georgia Tech being a solid team early in the
• 49:57
  season, their defense ain't on the level that pits is.
• 50:01
  I don't think they defense on the level ours is.
• 50:04
  So I'll go right there. Brian, what you think about Mr.
• 50:07
  McCord? Yeah.
• 50:09
  I mean, you kind of said it. And I mean, when we look at what
• 50:12
  he does, he's really a pocket oriented gunslinger.
• 50:17
  He's got some athletic ability, but he's not a guy that's going
• 50:21
  to take off and run consistently.
• 50:22
  That's not his bread and butter. He's the guy that's going to
• 50:26
  sling it from the the pocket there.
• 50:28
  And I emphasize gunslinger in the Brett Favre sense of the
• 50:31
  word, that it's either going to be something big or it's going
• 50:34
  to be an interception. Anything can happen.
• 50:38
  Literally he throws on the run pretty well, but again, still
• 50:42
  less of a threat to kind of take off in that aspect.
• 50:46
  And and from a arm talent standpoint, I mean, he can make
• 50:49
  all the throws, but he is risky with the football.
• 50:54
  You know, in the pit game, you look at that three of those
• 50:57
  interceptions, all three of the ones that were pick sixes were
• 51:00
  bad throws. Not not, not not throws that you
• 51:03
  should be making in those situations.
• 51:06
  You got, you got to be smarter with the football there.
• 51:10
  You know, he had a couple that were just, you know, tip balls
• 51:13
  probably probably shouldn't have taken the risk, but it, it was a
• 51:16
  calculated 1 and things just went the other way.
• 51:19
  But we're going to get some opportunities to, to have the
• 51:22
  ball go in our direction with, with Common Core throwing the
• 51:25
  ball. But he is going to make our guys
• 51:28
  cover, you know, 5 receivers 6570% of the time.
• 51:34
  So we're going to have to be ready.
• 51:36
  We're going to have to take tackles because they're going to
• 51:38
  want to get that ball in the open space.
• 51:40
  That last three games, do you know how many times he's threw
• 51:42
  the ball? How?
• 51:44
  Many. Against Pitt, he threw the ball
• 51:48
  64 times, Against North Carolina State he threw the ball 42 times
• 51:59
  and against UNLV they went into overtime, he threw the ball 63
• 52:04
  times. I can't believe his arm mate
• 52:06
  fell off. That ain't that's just the last
• 52:10
  three. I ain't even going into the
• 52:11
  other games. Lord have mercy.
• 52:14
  Lord have mercy. Well, hold on, let let me do
• 52:16
  something real quick here because I guess I'm up to look.
• 52:19
  So that's like 160 times. He threw it 42 when they lost to
• 52:23
  Stanford. Who was 42 and they lost to
• 52:25
  Stanford. And hold on, I got it up here.
• 52:30
  I'm going to talk about in a second couple of the guys Brian
• 52:34
  picked out to say we got to talk about these two guys who he
• 52:37
  throws to cause sort of the whole thing.
• 52:40
  He's went 364 in seven game, 346 in seven games.
• 52:44
  He's throwing the ball 50 * a game.
• 52:47
  Karen. Damn, T he going to throw it 50
• 52:49
  times? Yeah, that's if they win or they
• 52:51
  lose. So let's talk about a couple
• 52:54
  guys he's throwing to. I want to talk about Brian, the
• 52:57
  first one here because he's listed as a tight end, but you
• 53:00
  know, sometimes they lie because he was listed on 247 as a wide
• 53:03
  receiver. Ron Gadsden, the second out of
• 53:08
  American Heritage down to Fort Lauderdale, was a 84 when he
• 53:13
  came out. So a low three star, even though
• 53:16
  his dad was a NFL wide receiver on the Dolphins for five seasons
• 53:22
  back in the late 90s. Two thousands.
• 53:23
  So obviously he's got a bloodline there so far this
• 53:26
  season, 35 catches for 466 yards.
• 53:31
  His Big Bang game was against UNLV.
• 53:35
  He went 10 for 1:42 and a for 10 for 142.
• 53:41
  Big piece about him right now. He's got only three touchdowns
• 53:44
  this year in those seven games. So Brian, he's 65.
• 53:49
  He's about 2:15. Tell me what to do with him.
• 53:53
  Yeah, I mean, he's he's definitely the classic Joker
• 53:55
  tight end. Yeah, he's not going to, you
• 53:59
  know, be a guy that's, you know, running a quick hitch or or a
• 54:03
  huge red zone threat. But he is a guy that will run
• 54:06
  the seam in the wheel with regularity.
• 54:09
  He's a guy that they'll use on those quick hitters.
• 54:13
  So I don't know if we'll see, I don't know if we'll see that
• 54:19
  that damn RPO to the tight end like we've seen every other team
• 54:24
  run against us in the last month.
• 54:27
  But he has the capability of turning that into a, you know,
• 54:31
  pretty, pretty good play there. Yeah.
• 54:34
  So he's the guy that we're going to to to keep our eyes on.
• 54:37
  Like I said, I'm more worried about him up the sea and on
• 54:40
  those wheel routes than I am necessarily doing anything near
• 54:42
  the red zone. All right, got that noted.
• 54:45
  All right. Next guy I want to talk about is
• 54:47
  a guy by the name of Jackson Meeks.
• 54:51
  And Charlie, I'm on pivot to you in just a second before Brian
• 54:53
  jumps on him. Jackson Meeks, originally a
• 54:56
  recruit to Georgia back in the year 2021 Central High School,
• 55:04
  Phoenix City, Alabama, and so far this season, 43 catches, 512
• 55:12
  yards, 4 touchdowns. He's got the last five, excuse
• 55:17
  me, the last six games, well, we have been over 8 plus
• 55:21
  receptions, 2 / 10 of those, 2110 for 161 against Holy Cross.
• 55:28
  That makes sense that he absolutely torched NC State 11
• 55:32
  for 1/16 and a touchdown tally. Let's get a little bit of
• 55:35
  background on him. Phoenix City and Central, What
• 55:38
  type of program is that down there?
• 55:39
  A. Beast.
• 55:42
  Everybody who's good from Alabama comes from now.
• 55:46
  I'm pretty sure there are 7A schools, so biggest in the state
• 55:49
  of Alabama. They continue to pump out talent
• 55:54
  every year. I can't remember the name, but
• 55:58
  Auburn's freshman wide receiver that they got last year, he
• 56:04
  looks like Megatron. He came from Central Central.
• 56:06
  Phoenix City played basketball as well.
• 56:08
  I'll find his name here in a minute.
• 56:11
  But yeah, Phoenix City is always a great school, always very,
• 56:17
  very talented in every sport. But definitely they're bread and
• 56:21
  butter football like they that's, that's what they do
• 56:24
  that. So anybody coming from that
• 56:26
  program is usually pretty talented.
• 56:31
  All right, Brian, would you see on film?
• 56:35
  Yeah, I mean, he's there. Definitely their best all around
• 56:37
  wide receiver. He can do a little bit of
• 56:39
  everything. He can move the sticks.
• 56:41
  He can catch him down the field really good at at high point the
• 56:45
  ball and uses his size to kind of get that position on those
• 56:49
  deep balls down the field or in in those stick moving
• 56:52
  situations. So really got we got to kind of
• 56:54
  look at in all aspects of his game because he can definitely
• 56:57
  beat you a bunch of different ways.
• 57:00
  All righty tell who we were looking at next.
• 57:04
  We'll go to Lapointe Allen, the running back.
• 57:08
  He was a three star coming out of high school, New Jersey kid
• 57:15
  didn't have a ton of offers. You know it have UVA in there,
• 57:19
  Temple, Rutgers, Syracuse. So ended up going to Syracuse.
• 57:25
  He's a 2022 kid. He so he's a junior.
• 57:30
  He's got about 109 carries this year for 481, so 4 touchdowns.
• 57:39
  So that's what the stats that we have on him.
• 57:42
  Brian, what kind of film do you have on him?
• 57:44
  Yeah, I mean, you know, we'll make a note here.
• 57:46
  He's 3rd on the team in receptions right now.
• 57:50
  I'd say he's a threat as a runner and a receiver.
• 57:52
  I, I, I'd consider him just probably a little bit more of a
• 57:55
  receiving threat than than as a runner.
• 57:58
  You know, he's a, he's a, I'd say an average ACC running back,
• 58:03
  but he's a very good receiving threat, really good to the
• 58:07
  screen game and in space. And he catches just like a, a
• 58:10
  wide receiver. So he's got really good hands.
• 58:15
  All righty, Brian, one last piece to flip on.
• 58:18
  Let's talk about the offensive line.
• 58:22
  You know, what did you see on tape that any numbers
• 58:26
  specifically stand out to you? I mean, they they surrender a
• 58:29
  lot of sacks. Good.
• 58:32
  We can. We can sack this, we can sack
• 58:36
  this quarterback especially. They struggled a lot with elite
• 58:39
  edges one-on-one and they struggle a lot when you bring
• 58:43
  some pressure packages. So we should be able to get to
• 58:46
  the backfield. The questions going to be do we
• 58:48
  get home? Are they going to try to get rid
• 58:51
  of the ball quickly? Are they are we going to let
• 58:53
  them get open quickly in the snap?
• 58:55
  That's really going to be, you know, whether or not we struggle
• 58:59
  with this offense is whether or not we can get pressure on
• 59:02
  McCord with with regularity. And y'all wondering how bad they
• 59:06
  are? They are 97th in sacks allowed,
• 59:10
  about 2 1/2 per game. And obviously we played
• 59:15
  Stanford. We know Stanford's fast rush is
• 59:17
  not what it is. Pitt usually has 1.
• 59:21
  And I have to go look up at those numbers.
• 59:23
  But just kind of look here, Brian, you said the tackle
• 59:27
  struggle and it does show that they're two highest tackles City
• 59:31
  on Washington, Demetrius Witherspoon, they both get over
• 59:34
  500 snaps. You do the mathematics in seven
• 59:37
  games. That makes sense that they're
• 59:39
  pretty much the starters. Washington 62 graded in pass
• 59:44
  block in Witherspoon, you know, 67.
• 59:47
  So not that elite where you want to be.
• 59:51
  When you look at the competition they played, that's more of the
• 59:54
  issue there. It's who you played.
• 59:57
  Y'all should be easily in the 70s.
• 1:00:00
  You're in the 60s and you have not played an elite pass rusher
• 1:00:03
  and we. And as soon as they ramped it up
• 1:00:05
  last week, we saw what the fuck happened.
• 1:00:11
  You went on mute, Curtis. Can you hear me now on mute?
• 1:00:16
  Yes, Sir. Oh man, it didn't messed up
• 1:00:19
  Umamento. I'm back.
• 1:00:24
  He broke it. Maybe I'm not.
• 1:00:27
  Yeah, you're good, You're good. I don't know, it's, it's all
• 1:00:32
  jacked up with me. All right, So this thing just
• 1:00:36
  has a mind of its own. Let's go over to the defensive
• 1:00:39
  side of the ball led by Elijah Robinson and Robert Wright.
• 1:00:45
  I know I read earlier this week that Robinson is the play
• 1:00:48
  caller. Brian, what kind of scheme are
• 1:00:50
  they looking at here? Yes, it's a familiar one here,
• 1:00:53
  buddy. It's a 425 very pressure
• 1:00:55
  oriented scheme. They mix up their their their
• 1:00:59
  pressures a lot. They're they're very much not a
• 1:01:02
  predictable team. They're not just going to blitz
• 1:01:04
  on obvious downs. They're going to confuse you.
• 1:01:07
  They're going to bring bring pressure from different levels.
• 1:01:10
  They can bring pressure on different down and distances.
• 1:01:12
  So they're going to keep you on your toes a little bit with how
• 1:01:15
  they attack an offensive line. All right, Tally who you got up
• 1:01:22
  first because I, I, I know you, you're addressing what always
• 1:01:26
  worries you with teams. Mr. Fidel digs a big time
• 1:01:31
  recruit coming out of high school, you know, pretty much a
• 1:01:36
  five star, you know, 4 star high 4*5* player transferred in from
• 1:01:43
  Texas A&M to Syracuse this this year.
• 1:01:49
  Again, big time player had all the offers, all the SEC schools
• 1:01:55
  and he's he's, he's a solid player.
• 1:01:57
  Been, you know, going to be a nightmare for somebody coming
• 1:02:01
  off the edge, which Brian probably would be a nightmare
• 1:02:05
  for somebody coming off the edge.
• 1:02:06
  No disrespect to Brian, but I'm just saying we got to do some
• 1:02:11
  things that's going to neutralize him because he can
• 1:02:14
  cause some problems. Probably what you got on Mr.
• 1:02:16
  Deeds. Yeah, I mean his initial step,
• 1:02:19
  he's really good off the snap, probably not elite from a
• 1:02:24
  complete Rep standpoint, but really good get off really
• 1:02:30
  strong hands, can use those to kind of get get tackles off
• 1:02:34
  balance. Shed shed the blocker there, but
• 1:02:38
  when he gets home he's a pretty good tackler.
• 1:02:39
  He he he definitely has a a tendency when he gets there he's
• 1:02:43
  going to get you on the ground. So he's going to be a handful
• 1:02:47
  and and hopefully a certain somebody doesn't see a whole lot
• 1:02:51
  of him he's. Got 4 sacks as well. 8 1/2
• 1:02:56
  tackles for loss, too, and he's got like 30 tackles in general.
• 1:02:59
  So it shows a little bit of a motor from the end position.
• 1:03:02
  So he is definitely somebody we have to keep an eye on it.
• 1:03:07
  We've got to neutralize. You tell me he's got one sack or
• 1:03:11
  less. I will feel good about Saturday.
• 1:03:15
  Honestly, I'd feel great about Saturday.
• 1:03:17
  All right, I'm gonna go to the back end, Brian, because they've
• 1:03:20
  got a pretty damn good cornerback there by the name of
• 1:03:25
  Clarence Lewis. Clarence is from New Jersey.
• 1:03:28
  He went to Maitre-d' high school in Middletown.
• 1:03:30
  The class of 2020, initially went to Notre Dame.
• 1:03:33
  Now coming out not looked as a high star recruit, just an 87.
• 1:03:37
  So kind of in that middle range there.
• 1:03:40
  But you know, you take a look at what he's done so far in just a
• 1:03:44
  few seasons or in, excuse me, in this season at Syracuse, so far,
• 1:03:51
  16 tackles. He's already got a pick.
• 1:03:53
  He's got 5 past deflections in seven games.
• 1:03:56
  That tells me he's keeping an eye on things.
• 1:03:59
  He goes and gets it. His career at Notre Dame where
• 1:04:02
  effectively he played four full seasons.
• 1:04:05
  So this is his COVID season while he was there. 3 picks
• 1:04:11
  along with 18 past deflections in Four Seasons.
• 1:04:16
  Obviously he would have solved some of these Hokies way back.
• 1:04:19
  It would have been what, 2021 when he was a true sophomore
• 1:04:24
  there? If y'all can remember, we played
• 1:04:27
  them because he did play in all 13 games.
• 1:04:29
  Don't remind me of that game. I'm just saying he's seen some
• 1:04:35
  people on this team, not many of them, but some of them.
• 1:04:38
  But what? What's he got, Brian?
• 1:04:40
  Yeah, he's a very, very strong zone coverage cornerback.
• 1:04:45
  Really good at reading routes, anticipating throws.
• 1:04:49
  When it comes to man coverage, I'd, I'd give him an average
• 1:04:52
  grade. He's really good.
• 1:04:54
  Kind of early in the in the snap we look at things like double
• 1:04:59
  moves or tracking the ball deep down field.
• 1:05:02
  That's where he struggles at times.
• 1:05:04
  You know, you can get some penalties on him, you can get
• 1:05:06
  beat. He doesn't really do a good job
• 1:05:10
  of tracking the ball and going and get it in the air that way.
• 1:05:14
  But when it comes to breaking on a ball in those short to
• 1:05:16
  intermediate zones, that's where he's really strong all.
• 1:05:22
  Righty Valley, we got one more gentleman to look at who was our
• 1:05:27
  last contestant with Know the Enemy.
• 1:05:30
  Yeah. So Mr. Justin Baron, he's a
• 1:05:34
  senior. Many thought he was going to go
• 1:05:36
  in the draft last year, but he ended up coming back, I think
• 1:05:40
  for his fifth year to try to put on and do something special at
• 1:05:45
  Syracuse. He's a 64225 back there in
• 1:05:50
  defensive back this year. Looks like he is got about 25.
• 1:05:57
  I'm sorry, 42 tackles, 25 of them are solo tackles, one INT.
• 1:06:05
  He was about a three star player coming out of high school.
• 1:06:09
  Had a couple of offers from some ACC schools, Boston College
• 1:06:13
  being one of them. And of course, Syracuse is where
• 1:06:17
  he went. So yeah, it looks solid back
• 1:06:20
  there. Looks like a, you know, physical
• 1:06:22
  specimen. Brian, what you got on when you
• 1:06:24
  see tape? Yeah.
• 1:06:26
  And, and he's kind of been a guy that's moved in different spots
• 1:06:29
  on this defense as we've gotten into the season.
• 1:06:31
  He's kind of settled in an outside linebacker despite
• 1:06:35
  having that defensive back pedigree.
• 1:06:37
  So he's kind of that converted safety, played outside
• 1:06:40
  linebacker, Rover and free at various points in his career
• 1:06:43
  with Syracuse. Good tackler, you know, above
• 1:06:48
  average quickness, what you would expect from a safety, but
• 1:06:52
  you know, much like that he can get swallowed when he's inside
• 1:06:55
  of the box. They're a little undersized
• 1:06:58
  overall and doesn't have a ton of experience playing in the box
• 1:07:03
  between the tackles all. Righty, so there are three guys
• 1:07:08
  we are looking at this week. I'm going to throw another name
• 1:07:11
  to your cuz we're probably going to hear his name a lot Saturday
• 1:07:13
  just because of where he plays Mike linebacker Derek McDonald,
• 1:07:17
  48 total tackles Ty with bearing for the lead.
• 1:07:20
  He is in the middle of that defense.
• 1:07:22
  So if you hear that name a lot, don't be shocked.
• 1:07:26
  But y'all, let's let's go over we.
• 1:07:28
  We know what they do. We know they do have some
• 1:07:31
  weapons. We do see some things we do and
• 1:07:34
  don't like, but let's talk about what our keys to this victory
• 1:07:38
  are. Tally and we'll let you get up
• 1:07:41
  to the plate 1st and Smash 1 here.
• 1:07:44
  Yeah, so let me see, Keys to Victory for me is going to be
• 1:07:50
  secondary. You got to earn your reputation.
• 1:07:53
  You know, we got a all ACC all American cornerback back there
• 1:08:00
  and Dorian Strong. Well, guess what buddy?
• 1:08:03
  You going to get your opportunity to wear that satchel
• 1:08:07
  with some pride this week because they're probably going
• 1:08:10
  to drop back and throw the ball 50 times.
• 1:08:13
  I think defensive lines don't try to get to the quarterback.
• 1:08:16
  He's going to get the opportunity to pick something
• 1:08:20
  off. You know, we got to know what we
• 1:08:22
  doing. Hey, let's take one to the
• 1:08:23
  house, man. Let's say we want to be DBU.
• 1:08:26
  Let's just be DBU. So that's what I'm saying.
• 1:08:30
  Secondary, you don't have to earn your stripes this week.
• 1:08:34
  All righty, Brian, what about you?
• 1:08:38
  No slow starts on offense. Get Kyron comfortable early.
• 1:08:42
  Establish the line of scrimmage with the run game.
• 1:08:45
  Get out there, score a touchdown, get some points on
• 1:08:47
  the board. Put the pressure on that
• 1:08:50
  Syracuse offense to have to keep pace with us from an offensive
• 1:08:55
  standpoint. All right, we will have Sheldon
• 1:08:59
  here this week. Shelton actually went on the
• 1:09:01
  inactive list very early today. 1 going to be able to make it.
• 1:09:05
  Shelton, we miss you as always this week and I know you hate
• 1:09:09
  this stat, but I think it's when we've got to live by.
• 1:09:12
  The mantra is it's going to be money downs on both sides of the
• 1:09:15
  football. So at converting third downs,
• 1:09:20
  Syracuse is 6 in the country. They convert almost half of
• 1:09:23
  their third downs. 3rd down defense.
• 1:09:27
  They ain't too shabby as well. They are the 12th ranked third
• 1:09:31
  down defense in the country with teams converting less than 30%
• 1:09:36
  on them. So there's two ways about this
• 1:09:40
  right? Offense, Don't ever get to 3rd
• 1:09:43
  down. Get it on 1st and 2nd.
• 1:09:45
  Don't ever get to 3rd down. Don't let us strength defense
• 1:09:50
  upfront. APR Peebles, all y'all go eat,
• 1:09:56
  make the third downs damn near impossible for them to get to.
• 1:09:59
  And when it's third and 10 and 3rd and 11 attacks attack finish
• 1:10:06
  at the quarterback. But that is 2 of their
• 1:10:08
  strengths. So going to wrap that up.
• 1:10:11
  That's our three keys to victory.
• 1:10:14
  And Brian, how do you see this one playing out and what's your
• 1:10:19
  prediction for the game? Yeah, I I think the Hokies stand
• 1:10:23
  this one. I think it may end up being a
• 1:10:25
  little bit more of a grind than we want it to be, but I think we
• 1:10:29
  get the job done. At the end of the day, give me
• 1:10:31
  2721 Hokies. All righty, I'm going to go next
• 1:10:36
  because Tally, you're officially, you're officially in
• 1:10:39
  the clean up position for the rest of the year rest.
• 1:10:44
  Of the year. I'm also going to go Hokies on
• 1:10:47
  this one, especially once the news with Chaplain and Tooting
• 1:10:51
  came out that they're likely going to play, probably going to
• 1:10:53
  be playing through some pain. We are Four Point Rd. favorites.
• 1:10:58
  That was the last time I checked.
• 1:10:59
  I don't know if that's went up or down.
• 1:11:00
  I was a little bit starting. At 3 1/2 bumped up to four.
• 1:11:03
  I don't. I don't think it's changed
• 1:11:04
  since. I don't think it's changed since
• 1:11:06
  then, but I'm going to go 2823 and I think it's going to be the
• 1:11:13
  Syracuse is going to have their own undoing.
• 1:11:14
  They're going to be at like the 15.
• 1:11:16
  It's going to be like 4th and five would like 8 minutes to go
• 1:11:19
  and they go kick a field goal and then we're going to bleed
• 1:11:23
  out the clock. We're going to bleed out the
• 1:11:25
  clock. They will get the ball back with
• 1:11:27
  about 9 seconds left and Dorian Strongs on get a pick to seal
• 1:11:31
  the game. If all that happened.
• 1:11:35
  Curtis Curtis got a script. Yeah, I'm going to say if all
• 1:11:37
  that happened, shit, we're going to let Curtis go pick some
• 1:11:39
  numbers. If all that happens, yeah,
• 1:11:42
  we'll, we'll be, we'll be going, we'll be going to the grocery
• 1:11:45
  store and buying a lottery ticket Saturday night.
• 1:11:47
  Yeah, exactly. Well, hey, I got to stay true,
• 1:11:50
  man. Bulletin board material.
• 1:11:54
  I'm going with QS, man. I'm going with QS.
• 1:11:57
  I'm going to say QS 3521. You know, I haven't seen us
• 1:12:03
  really win a close game yet. A lot of people think it's going
• 1:12:06
  to be close. And again, two of our losses
• 1:12:10
  have been on the road. So they've been proving me wrong
• 1:12:14
  the last three games. I mean they proved me wrong.
• 1:12:18
  I want them to continue proving me wrong.
• 1:12:21
  Plaster me up on the in the in the locker room and them ugly
• 1:12:24
  ass lockers y'all got and say we going to prove this guy wrong
• 1:12:30
  again. Oh nevermind, we going to their
• 1:12:32
  house so they lock us. Might not be ugly, but our lock
• 1:12:35
  us is ugly. Oh, that place.
• 1:12:36
  Is have have you seen the Dome? You know them lock they you got
• 1:12:40
  to climb stairs to get them some bitches that.
• 1:12:43
  Place, by the way, not a way. And so we hadn't beat Georgia
• 1:12:48
  Tech at home in 12 years. How long has it been since we
• 1:12:53
  won in the Dome? It's been too long, but we
• 1:12:56
  hadn't played a ton of them. I played a ton of them, but do
• 1:13:00
  you do you know? Probably 20.
• 1:13:05
  Go ahead. I was gonna say 24 years. 24
• 1:13:10
  years. I was going to take last week's
• 1:13:11
  12, multiply it by 224 years. NB 7 was the quarterback.
• 1:13:17
  Yeah, yeah, it was 2000. I was in high school.
• 1:13:23
  He was in high school. He was in high school.
• 1:13:27
  That's how damn long it's been. It's time.
• 1:13:30
  Curtis is just That's another way for Curtis to call us old.
• 1:13:34
  The. Whole thing about our podcast is
• 1:13:38
  we don't desire being old. We don't go out there trying
• 1:13:42
  that young. I think I was in middle school.
• 1:13:44
  Were you? In middle school in 2000.
• 1:13:47
  Yeah, well, because the football season would have been.
• 1:13:50
  Yeah, never mind, it'd be 20. I was in high school because I
• 1:13:53
  graduated in O4. I was thinking it would have
• 1:13:56
  been 99 and then, but now it's the 2000 season.
• 1:13:58
  The 2000 season so there you got pressure in high school I'm not
• 1:14:01
  seeing you in high school all right let's move on as always,
• 1:14:05
  we have fun Brian, you didn't send me the update, man.
• 1:14:08
  You didn't send me the update. Send me the update.
• 1:14:10
  Hang on, hang on. I don't even.
• 1:14:13
  I think I had a decent week. I think I did all.
• 1:14:16
  Right, it's coming your way all. Right, I'm looking forward now.
• 1:14:19
  We are trying to get Shelton's prediction as well.
• 1:14:22
  Y'all Shelton again started his new job last week.
• 1:14:25
  He's trying to find an apartment.
• 1:14:26
  He's commuting back and forth. He's doing all sorts of stuff.
• 1:14:29
  But there is the big screeners. Let's get that tabulation up
• 1:14:33
  there, Brian, pop it up. Week 10 big screeners last week,
• 1:14:39
  believe it or not, Brian, Talley, Miranda, Jason all went
• 1:14:44
  500 along with Shelton. Everybody went three and three
• 1:14:48
  except me four and two back in the winning category.
• 1:14:52
  I am above 500. I'm joining Brian there.
• 1:14:55
  Curtis is the band. Curtis is the band.
• 1:14:58
  I hate the band. I just, I just hit it right last
• 1:15:02
  week. Yeah, you got those feelings.
• 1:15:05
  You just you go out, you bet them you feel good about it and.
• 1:15:07
  Curtis. Curtis is either, I mean looking
• 1:15:09
  at it, Curtis is either hitting three or more right or like 1.
• 1:15:14
  Like, or if you ride with me, be willing to burn because if it
• 1:15:19
  starts bad, you're usually going to be up in flames before we
• 1:15:23
  figure out anything. All right, But we got big
• 1:15:26
  screeners. Before we go to big screen,
• 1:15:28
  before we go to big screeners, Yeah, Just want to ask.
• 1:15:32
  Yeah, besides our game, because we got our game over with early.
• 1:15:36
  I was so happy. Like, I'm OK, I'm OK with the
• 1:15:39
  because here's 11:00, watch our game, we win, I'm having a great
• 1:15:43
  day. What other games did y'all
• 1:15:45
  watch? Because I'm going to tell you, I
• 1:15:47
  watched the Vanderbilt, Texas game and I knew it was going to
• 1:15:53
  be a close game and Vandy almost had a chance to pull that game
• 1:15:57
  off. They did let me think.
• 1:16:00
  I watched the fourth quarter of that game.
• 1:16:03
  I watched the early quarters of the Alabama game blow out.
• 1:16:08
  I was all over the place. I was watching mostly highlights
• 1:16:12
  other than our game because I was on the road for most of that
• 1:16:16
  and I I didn't get back till like almost 1030.
• 1:16:21
  I left at the start of the fourth quarter for our game.
• 1:16:24
  So that's why Tally was clutch coming through because ESPN had
• 1:16:29
  fucked up the game cast. So you couldn't follow, you
• 1:16:32
  couldn't follow the game on the on the app.
• 1:16:36
  I didn't have good enough service to to stream it on my
• 1:16:39
  phone, so Tally came through in the clutch and was giving me the
• 1:16:42
  giving us the play by play in real time in the group chat so.
• 1:16:45
  Hey, the man, Hey the man. We do it together.
• 1:16:48
  All right, so there's three. I watched Tally and then at
• 1:16:50
  night I watched some of the Miami, FL State game, the LSU,
• 1:16:54
  Texas A&M game, and then I closed it out watching SMU, Duke
• 1:17:00
  and I, I ain't never seen anything like y'all.
• 1:17:04
  You watching that game? Duke didn't want to win they.
• 1:17:07
  Didn't. They did not want to win the.
• 1:17:09
  Field goal and you. I think SMU turned it over six
• 1:17:12
  times. Six freaking times.
• 1:17:16
  Every time they got the ball, they turned it over and Duke
• 1:17:19
  just couldn't win it. I feel like we about to talk
• 1:17:22
  about that a little bit here. Yeah.
• 1:17:24
  Oh yeah, we got to talk about that.
• 1:17:26
  We got to talk about that because the first game up.
• 1:17:31
  Oh, by the way, there's another one.
• 1:17:33
  Hold on, Did y'all watch the game last Wednesday night?
• 1:17:37
  Tell me y'all watch the end of it.
• 1:17:39
  Who wasn't Allstate Liberty? No, I didn't watch it.
• 1:17:43
  I heard about. It Kennesaw State is an FCS
• 1:17:46
  transitioning program to FBS. They had not beaten an FBS team
• 1:17:51
  ever. Ever.
• 1:17:54
  And they beat Liberty's ass. It was such a glorious thing.
• 1:17:57
  Yeah, I think I threw the tweet out there.
• 1:17:59
  I was like, Liberty fans talked all that shit to lose the
• 1:18:02
  Kennesaw State on a Wednesday night.
• 1:18:04
  An O and 16. No one's 16 all right, but let's
• 1:18:09
  get to them big screeners, Brian, right out the gate, huge
• 1:18:12
  ACC matchup. Huge matchup for the Hokies if
• 1:18:18
  they are to make it to Charlotte.
• 1:18:19
  Pitt and SMU, both undefeated and ACC play.
• 1:18:24
  SMU effectively avoided that bullet Saturday night because
• 1:18:28
  you couldn't find a guy to kick a 22 yard field goal for the win
• 1:18:31
  and and then they didn't trust him enough in overtime.
• 1:18:34
  They had to go for two. And some of you laying 7 1/2.
• 1:18:39
  Brian, why'd you pick it and who you got?
• 1:18:43
  Yeah, I picked it because this fucking matters from a Virginia
• 1:18:47
  Tech standpoint. If we want to see Charlotte
• 1:18:50
  looking long term big picture here, you know, we need to at
• 1:18:55
  this point probably win the every remaining game on our
• 1:18:57
  schedule if we want to want to go and and and play where we
• 1:19:00
  want to play. Mainly because if you look at
• 1:19:04
  the remaining schedule for SMU, they've got pit and then they
• 1:19:08
  got some mostly light work the rest of the way.
• 1:19:12
  SMU schedule as far as a first first time P4 ACC team is as
• 1:19:21
  cake as they could have lined it up.
• 1:19:26
  Just looking at that big picture, pit really going to be
• 1:19:29
  really the the biggest test they're going to have in the
• 1:19:31
  entire slate of the ACCI know it's at SMU but them getting 7
• 1:19:38
  1/2 is fucking wild to me. So because honestly, SMU's wins
• 1:19:45
  haven't been that impressive. So give me pit and I'm I'm
• 1:19:51
  picking pit here. So y'all mark this on your
• 1:19:53
  calendars. This is a red letter day that
• 1:19:57
  Brian Siegler has chosen Pitt in any context because I will
• 1:20:03
  usually avoid that team like the play. 100%, but you had it in
• 1:20:07
  this one because of the enormity of the match up.
• 1:20:10
  Yeah, this this is where the first of the dominoes have to
• 1:20:13
  fall for the Hokies to make it in the Hokies or themselves.
• 1:20:17
  Obviously we got to win Saturday afternoon at Syracuse, but we
• 1:20:21
  take care of that. We need because by the way, this
• 1:20:25
  is who Pitt has left BC, not even at BC.
• 1:20:29
  So they ain't got to travel a long ways.
• 1:20:31
  They get to stay at home. They don't have to play up in
• 1:20:32
  the cold. They go to UVA and then they got
• 1:20:38
  Cal at home. You talk about SMU.
• 1:20:41
  Yeah, SMU. That's their last three
• 1:20:42
  opponents. Oh, I thought you said Pitt.
• 1:20:44
  So that that's why I. Was no, no, no.
• 1:20:46
  So I was saying this is their hardest one.
• 1:20:50
  The the thing I will say if you take a look, best defense SMU
• 1:20:54
  seen all year is BYU. They held him to 15 points.
• 1:20:59
  Give me Pitt, give me the 7 1/2. Pitt wins a game outright.
• 1:21:07
  Sheldon is riding with you and me here, Curtis Tell.
• 1:21:12
  Tally what you. Got I'm riding, I'm riding with
• 1:21:14
  Pitt too. Our dudes are going if you give
• 1:21:17
  him, you give him the ball 6 times, he going to do something
• 1:21:21
  with it. I don't like it, but if you turn
• 1:21:24
  that ball over six times, he probably not losing.
• 1:21:27
  Go ask Syracuse. Hey, true, true.
• 1:21:32
  Miranda is riding with SMU here, and the man himself is riding
• 1:21:37
  with us and Pitt. Gentlemen, 5:00 to 1:00. 5 to
• 1:21:40
  one. Yep.
• 1:21:42
  All righty Curtis, where are we heading?
• 1:21:44
  We are heading to Death Valley, South Carolina, Louisville
• 1:21:49
  versus Clemson, Clemson laying 10 1/2 points here and I chose
• 1:21:55
  this one obviously because I know we've got to see.
• 1:22:00
  We've been probably all watching Clemson a little bit as they've
• 1:22:03
  been getting closer and closer to the game.
• 1:22:06
  This is one week before. So obviously got to going to
• 1:22:09
  keep an eye out or we'll be keeping an eye on this game.
• 1:22:13
  Louisville can score and we've seen that numerous times.
• 1:22:18
  Louisville don't play much defense and I think when they go
• 1:22:21
  down there, they're going to get locked down defensively.
• 1:22:24
  I think Clemson is going to be tuning up to get ready to come
• 1:22:28
  to Lane Stadium. I think Clemson wins this one
• 1:22:31
  big. They easily cover the 10 1/2.
• 1:22:34
  I think this is a blowout by 20 plus.
• 1:22:37
  I'm not seeing a blowout here, but I am seeing a solid Clemson
• 1:22:41
  V14 to 17 points, so I'm riding with you and the Tigers.
• 1:22:49
  Sheldon's riding with us too. Tally you on board.
• 1:22:52
  Oh yeah, I got to go Clemson. You know, Clemson's had a pretty
• 1:22:56
  easy schedule, man, besides Georgia.
• 1:22:58
  I mean, they, they've been pretty caked.
• 1:22:59
  So they do got to pay Pitt later on.
• 1:23:05
  They play us and they do play Pitt.
• 1:23:07
  But other than that, man, they've kind of we'll when I say
• 1:23:11
  us, we'll see what us do. But.
• 1:23:13
  They. Had it pretty.
• 1:23:14
  They've had it pretty cake. So we'll see how Clemson handles
• 1:23:18
  Louisville. Regardless of how our game
• 1:23:22
  shakes out, you know they'll we should still be top five, top
• 1:23:28
  six team in the conference. So we'll still be in the top
• 1:23:31
  heavy end of the of the conference.
• 1:23:33
  But hopefully we go ahead and take care of business this week
• 1:23:36
  and we can actually have some to to talk about next week with
• 1:23:40
  that Clemson game. 100% Miranda and Jason.
• 1:23:46
  Everybody's riding Clemson Queensland baby.
• 1:23:49
  And if y'all did not know the clean suite losing streak
• 1:23:53
  snapped last week, it snapped last week on the Vandy game.
• 1:23:57
  Yep, everybody pick Vandy. Vandy snapped our streak.
• 1:24:01
  Mandy Damner won that thing out, right?
• 1:24:03
  So that was crazy. All righty.
• 1:24:05
  Next we have Shelton's pick. North Carolina, Florida State.
• 1:24:10
  And as Shelton sent us the text message of this game, this is
• 1:24:13
  effectively the toilet bowl of the ACC.
• 1:24:16
  This year, we've got FSU getting points at home getting 2 1/2
• 1:24:22
  versus UNCUNC, whose defense has been trash, Absolutely shut UVA
• 1:24:29
  down last week, which just makes you shake your head.
• 1:24:32
  So Brian Sigler, where are you going with this one?
• 1:24:38
  I think we're going to get another Jeff Collins special.
• 1:24:42
  Give me UNCI don't like anything that Florida State's doing.
• 1:24:45
  I don't know they they broke, man.
• 1:24:47
  I don't know what the fuck happened but they are broke.
• 1:24:51
  But you know what you just need though?
• 1:24:54
  Every time something broke, they just need somebody who has
• 1:24:58
  something more broken. And I know they held UVA to 14,
• 1:25:02
  but that UNC defense has been just like a paper bag, a wet
• 1:25:06
  paper bag. Usually everybody's breaking
• 1:25:08
  through it. I think this is FSU's biggest
• 1:25:12
  win of the year. They win, they get the points,
• 1:25:16
  FSU high scoring. Be willing to maybe take the
• 1:25:20
  over on this one. I don't know what it is I'll
• 1:25:22
  find. Florida Stakes is going to is
• 1:25:24
  going to score points. Florida State score.
• 1:25:26
  So OK, hold on, wait a second. I'm I'm just do something real
• 1:25:30
  real quick here bro. Over Under 28 points for Florida
• 1:25:34
  State's offense Over Under. 28 points over OK over over.
• 1:25:40
  UNC has given up ready 70344141 at some of their giving UPS.
• 1:25:53
  It don't matter Florida State anything to score that all
• 1:25:56
  right, They can't catch. They can't catch.
• 1:26:00
  They don't have a quarterback out of three of them to rub
• 1:26:03
  together to make one. Yeah, All right.
• 1:26:07
  Sheldon is riding with me. Tally, we know who you riding
• 1:26:11
  with. You just gave them away and that
• 1:26:16
  last two wonderful contributors, North Carolina and Jason, we got
• 1:26:21
  a split family. That that was I was most.
• 1:26:24
  This is the most unexpected outcome.
• 1:26:26
  I was not expecting a a split on this one.
• 1:26:29
  Me neither. I thought, I thought this would
• 1:26:31
  lean UNC's way at least 4-2. But you know what?
• 1:26:36
  We move. All right, Sally, where we
• 1:26:39
  going, man? So next we're going to like,
• 1:26:43
  Curtis said, The big one, Ohio State and Penn State.
• 1:26:48
  I hate Penn State, man. I hate Ohio State, but I hate
• 1:26:50
  Penn State. So there's.
• 1:26:53
  No rhyme of reason. Yeah, there's no rhyme of
• 1:26:55
  reason. I'm just going to say Ohio
• 1:27:00
  State's going to win all. Right, You know what, Penn State
• 1:27:07
  getting 3 1/2 at home just don't quite sit sit well with me, I
• 1:27:12
  think. Ohio.
• 1:27:13
  State do it Brian, don't do it I.
• 1:27:14
  Think Ohio State pulls out the West, but I'm going to Penn
• 1:27:19
  State here in that 3 1/2. So welcome to Jonathan Talley's
• 1:27:26
  Player Hater Ball football game of the week.
• 1:27:30
  Hate your whole family. He hates everything about the
• 1:27:32
  school. And listen, I, I think most of
• 1:27:35
  us that are hokey fans, we ain't too big a fans at either of
• 1:27:38
  these schools either way. But with that info that broke,
• 1:27:42
  and I don't know if this changed your mind.
• 1:27:44
  Brian Drew a law is likely to be a game time decision for Penn
• 1:27:47
  State. He's playing, which means, well,
• 1:27:50
  he's going to play. But when a guy has a game time
• 1:27:52
  decision, like not even like he's going to practice and
• 1:27:55
  progress through it. Like we going to figure out it
• 1:27:57
  and it's a 12:00 game, which by the way, I'm going to say
• 1:28:00
  something. As much as I hate them, I like
• 1:28:03
  seeing a night game at Penn State.
• 1:28:05
  The white out. It's cool.
• 1:28:06
  What is this game at 12:00? Could y'all explain that to me?
• 1:28:10
  It's such stupid. It's just stupidity.
• 1:28:13
  We got to stop. You can't put the game of the
• 1:28:16
  week at 12. No.
• 1:28:18
  Not there's only a couple that can happen with.
• 1:28:22
  I am always fine with the Red River Shootout being at 12:00.
• 1:28:26
  That's fine. I'm fine with some rivalry games
• 1:28:28
  being at 12:00. This game should be a night
• 1:28:31
  game. Fox, shame on you.
• 1:28:34
  Ohio State by. 10 all right. And I'm playing the points,
• 1:28:42
  Shelton. Sheldon's riding with you.
• 1:28:44
  We already know what Tally's doing.
• 1:28:47
  Miranda is riding and I am so low.
• 1:28:51
  Brian Siegler versus the world, hey.
• 1:28:55
  Bring it on, bitches. Let's go.
• 1:28:56
  All right. All righty, all righty.
• 1:28:58
  So our wonderful contributing writer Miranda this week is
• 1:29:02
  going down to Fayetteville, AR where the Ole Miss Rebels are
• 1:29:08
  playing the Arkansas Razorbacks. Arkansas is a 7 point home
• 1:29:14
  favorite. Brian, what you got?
• 1:29:17
  I think this is going to be about a 22 touchdown victory for
• 1:29:20
  Ole Miss. I think they're just going to be
• 1:29:22
  too much to handle down there in Fayetteville.
• 1:29:25
  I don't think the the Razorbacks are going to quite have enough
• 1:29:29
  to keep pace with that offense. So I'm going to take Ole Miss
• 1:29:32
  here. All righty, I'm exact opposite
• 1:29:35
  of you. I think Arkansas does have
• 1:29:38
  enough in the tank probably to keep up offensively. 7:00 is way
• 1:29:42
  too much to lay. And the whole thing is it's
• 1:29:49
  almost just has not been right in my opinion since the Kentucky
• 1:29:53
  game. They have not been right.
• 1:29:56
  I mean, if you take a look at them since Kentucky game a few
• 1:30:00
  weeks ago, like they played South Carolina, they only scored
• 1:30:05
  27. They lost LSU, they scored 26,
• 1:30:09
  they beat Oklahoma, they only scored 26.
• 1:30:13
  And then I look at what Arkansas has done the last few weeks,
• 1:30:15
  5:00 and 3:00. Arkansas has been laying some
• 1:30:18
  points, like Arkansas has been putting points on the board
• 1:30:21
  against less than average defenses, 58 last week.
• 1:30:24
  It's Mississippi State. I think this is going to be
• 1:30:27
  entertaining personally, but give me the Razorbacks and seven
• 1:30:32
  Shelton is with. Ride with Ole Miss baby.
• 1:30:37
  Who you riding with, Tally? Give me Arkansas.
• 1:30:42
  Any rhyme or reason or just screwed lane given?
• 1:30:44
  Vibes. No it's just vibes man.
• 1:30:47
  I mean Arkansas got a got a ugly pig as they mascot so they
• 1:30:52
  should be winning this game right?
• 1:30:55
  You think so? Hey, Miranda's riding with with
• 1:30:59
  Sheldon and I, and so is Jason. All righty, we got one MO here
• 1:31:07
  and obviously that is our Music Man picking the Florida Georgia
• 1:31:11
  game. Well, I won't back down.
• 1:31:26
  No, I won't back down. You can swing me up and get me
• 1:31:34
  to feel, but I won't back down. Welcome back to another week of
• 1:31:42
  guitar licks and gambling picks. I'm Jason Long, I took a big
• 1:31:46
  loss last week, but as the song says, I'm not going to back
• 1:31:48
  down. In fact, this week I'm coming
• 1:31:50
  back stronger than ever. I did some research, I took
• 1:31:52
  notes, I did math and wrote down stats and stuff.
• 1:31:56
  So I am ready folks. I'm looking at the Florida
• 1:31:58
  Georgia Game, the World's Largest outdoor cocktail party,
• 1:32:02
  going on in Jacksonville Saturday afternoon, and Florida
• 1:32:05
  started out a little rough, but they've won three of their last
• 1:32:07
  four games. Georgia's looked.
• 1:32:09
  Pretty good all season, including two weeks ago when
• 1:32:11
  they beat Texas and I lost money.
• 1:32:13
  However, they're only two and five against the spread.
• 1:32:17
  Florida's getting 16 1/2 points in this game.
• 1:32:20
  I think they'll at least keep it around 10.
• 1:32:23
  So I'm going to go and stick my neck out there and bet on
• 1:32:26
  Florida plus 16 1/2 against Georgia.
• 1:32:30
  One other little side note, I noticed the over under was 52
• 1:32:34
  1/2 points for this game. I looked it up and that is hit
• 1:32:38
  for the last 6 times these teams have met and it's hit the last
• 1:32:42
  two times they've played each other.
• 1:32:44
  So I might sprinkle a little something only over.
• 1:32:47
  And as far as the song goes, obviously, Gainesville native
• 1:32:51
  Tom Petty. The rain, the rain, the rain,
• 1:33:07
  The rain, The rain, The rain, the rain, the rain.
• 1:33:33
  Hey on a serious note I want to take a moment to say fare thee
• 1:33:36
  well to my guy Phil Lesh. Thank you for the music.
• 1:33:39
  We'll see you on the other side for the rest of y'all.
• 1:33:41
  I'll hopefully see you next week for another week.
• 1:33:43
  Guitar licks and gambling picks have a great week.
• 1:33:49
  All righty, so there is the Florida Georgia game, the
• 1:33:52
  world's largest outdoor cocktail party.
• 1:33:55
  We lost Tally, so I'm going to do a little bit more talking
• 1:33:59
  always for some reason this has been even though I have like no
• 1:34:04
  rooting interest. This is always one of those
• 1:34:06
  games that has captivated me since I was a kid like always.
• 1:34:11
  So for Jason, he'll probably be pairing himself a nice raw old
• 1:34:14
  fashioned enjoying this one because he sent us the bed and
• 1:34:17
  slip y'all, he did sprinkle the money on the over under.
• 1:34:21
  So you know that's there. And now we got to make our
• 1:34:27
  picks. So we're going to get tally back
• 1:34:30
  up and running. Brian, who do you got?
• 1:34:36
  I'm going with Georgia here. I haven't seen anything from
• 1:34:38
  Florida at this point to inspire a lot of conference confidence.
• 1:34:42
  I think Georgia is kind of settling back in after a little
• 1:34:46
  bit of a tough patch there. So I'll take Georgia.
• 1:34:49
  I'll lay the the 16 1/2. Yeah the 16 1/2 is such a big
• 1:34:54
  number and but is it big enough in regardless what this screen
• 1:35:03
  says to me it is too much. I do think Georgia wins but I
• 1:35:07
  think the game is a lot closer than you need to.
• 1:35:13
  Then they can be left. I am taking Florida, not Georgia
• 1:35:17
  fries. Edit details completely screwed
• 1:35:19
  that up. I'll take the L on that one.
• 1:35:23
  Too well, I'm looking. Much like Florida will take on
• 1:35:26
  Saturday. No, I'm just.
• 1:35:28
  Kidding. See how it's going to make the
• 1:35:29
  L? It just ain't going to be about
• 1:35:30
  16 1/2. It's going to be about less than
• 1:35:32
  16 1/2 points, but yeah, give give me Florida on this one.
• 1:35:39
  Sheldon Brown with me, Curtis. Not us.
• 1:35:41
  Me. Yeah, I'm a ride with you too,
• 1:35:44
  Brian, because Georgia's coming off of a bye week and I think
• 1:35:48
  that they're going to come back ready to give that final push to
• 1:35:53
  try to get to the SEC Championship.
• 1:35:56
  Hey. No, they ain't.
• 1:35:59
  Oh yeah, they are. Yeah, two weeks ago.
• 1:36:02
  Yeah. Miranda's riding with us there
• 1:36:06
  and obviously we know Jason is not riding solo as expected, but
• 1:36:11
  riding with Curtis. And we're also coming off a by
• 1:36:17
  week as well, so should be interesting. 1 and Tally, I was
• 1:36:21
  just telling Brian while you were getting back on for some
• 1:36:24
  reason, I have really no root and interest in this game, but
• 1:36:28
  that game is always captivated me for years.
• 1:36:31
  I don't know why, but it's just always captivated me for years
• 1:36:38
  so but there it is there's our big screeners enjoy the games
• 1:36:43
  that responsibly and if you ride with one of us all the way down,
• 1:36:49
  well y'all, y'all know you're making a mistake by doing that.
• 1:36:52
  So don't. Anything coming out in the last
• 1:36:56
  hour and 37 minutes, boys? I wouldn't say anything's coming
• 1:37:01
  out, but I will throw some numbers at you right quick. 1919
• 1:37:09
  is the number that Pride needs to get to.
• 1:37:13
  That means he wins four games, four more games.
• 1:37:17
  He will be 19 and 17 in his coaching career at Virginia
• 1:37:21
  Tech. Right now he is 15 to 17.
• 1:37:25
  Worst case scenario, he needs to be at 518 and 18.
• 1:37:32
  That means he goes three and one in the last four games.
• 1:37:38
  But you know what, Charlie, let's go.
• 1:37:40
  And, and I'm glad you said that because that was from three and
• 1:37:45
  eight. That was from 3:00 and 8:00.
• 1:37:49
  Yeah, first season 3 and eight. Second season 7 and six.
• 1:37:54
  The season where you go, yeah, 5 right now.
• 1:37:58
  Yeah, 5 right now, yeah. 5 right now and we didn't.
• 1:38:02
  See five last year. You know we saw five last year.
• 1:38:05
  Brian, me and you were travelling to Randolph Macon.
• 1:38:09
  November 11th is when we got to five last year y'all?
• 1:38:15
  What are you saying Brian? Sorry, I was.
• 1:38:17
  Just going to say, I mean that I think, I think getting to 8 this
• 1:38:20
  year is important. Yeah.
• 1:38:22
  I think that's, I think that's really important from a path
• 1:38:27
  forward standpoint. We're talking about the the
• 1:38:29
  youth that's coming in. I feel like prize has done a
• 1:38:31
  good job of bringing in the the right type of players for what
• 1:38:34
  we're trying to do both offensively and defensively.
• 1:38:36
  I think we're starting to see some of that pay off in terms of
• 1:38:39
  the talent, the the the youth talent, the guys that are, you
• 1:38:44
  know, true freshman, true sophomore, they're going out
• 1:38:47
  there and they're starting to make names for themselves on
• 1:38:51
  this team that is, you know, fairly veteran laden.
• 1:38:58
  You know, they're starting to make their presence felt.
• 1:39:00
  But if you want to keep that train moving, you got to put up
• 1:39:03
  wins. And eight says we're on the
• 1:39:05
  right track to be that top two top three every year team in the
• 1:39:11
  ACC. And that's where we need to get
• 1:39:12
  back to it. That's the first step is
• 1:39:15
  consistently being in the conversation with the Clemson's
• 1:39:19
  and Miami's want to be mentioned in that same discussion year in,
• 1:39:24
  year out. You got to go out there and win
• 1:39:26
  8 games this year. All right, so I like this tally
• 1:39:29
  said 19, You said eight. I'm staying 4 because there's
• 1:39:34
  four games left in the season there for all those young bucks
• 1:39:39
  have the opportunity to start playing.
• 1:39:40
  Chris Lester said it on this program.
• 1:39:42
  He was, he said the game he was looking forward to with Syracuse
• 1:39:45
  because he knew Keelan. I'm going to start calling him
• 1:39:48
  Keelan because I don't want Mama come beat me up.
• 1:39:52
  But those guys now have the opportunity.
• 1:39:54
  There's one other guy that might have the opportunity as well and
• 1:39:58
  Tally, you mentioned that you would like to see him back and
• 1:40:00
  that's Tucker Holloway. There's an opportunity.
• 1:40:03
  Tucker Holloway plays this last month of the season because he
• 1:40:06
  would keep his red shirt and two more years of eligibility left,
• 1:40:09
  which would be shoes. Shout out B Fish.
• 1:40:10
  Yes, we know B Fish because she have disability back there in
• 1:40:13
  the three and eight season. But.
• 1:40:17
  We need a we we remember that. I will never forget that man,
• 1:40:22
  but that those. I hope somebody cares about a
• 1:40:25
  situation like B Fish cared about Tucker Holloway's red
• 1:40:28
  shirt. Golly, he was mad.
• 1:40:31
  He. Was so mad and we were like we
• 1:40:34
  need to win a game and. Right.
• 1:40:36
  We got to show something. I don't want to throw too much
• 1:40:38
  out, you know, I know it's week by week, but we just talking
• 1:40:41
  numbers here, but 19, you get to 19, you know how many wins that
• 1:40:45
  gives you for the season, gives you nine wins for the season.
• 1:40:49
  You got opportunity to win 10 games.
• 1:40:53
  Hey. Just saying man.
• 1:40:55
  But you. But you know what?
• 1:40:56
  You at least need to make but. Hey, but you know what that nine
• 1:41:00
  does too if things break like you want it to break.
• 1:41:05
  Look at him. Look.
• 1:41:05
  At him. Look at him coming in late.
• 1:41:07
  And ready. But Batali and I don't want to
• 1:41:10
  speak it. Put 9 and things break right?
• 1:41:15
  Y'all know where we can where you can drive to?
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  Actually, Yeah, yeah, put that up.
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  There. That's right.
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  That's right. There you go.
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  Love it. We missed you tonight, Andretti,
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  Reminder throw, throw the fucking 1999 in there.
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  And again, we haven't decided if we're doing it early.
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  Well, there you go. Put him up there.
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  That's what she said. Make sure you subscribe to
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  So I mean, put it on, it's got to be either week 8-9 or ten
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  Love to see it, Andre. I, I, I, you know what?
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  I look at the numbers of these episodes.
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  Ain't many people watching the, the, the episode past Saturday
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  Now I'm gonna wait for the next go round and see what we got.
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  So not this time. Not this time.
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  Just letting y'all know that. So we're going to get as many of
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• 1:45:57
  Yes, this was Thor's hammer tonight.
• 1:46:00
  And as always, let's go.