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Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles REPLAY 080726 - Dennis Fetcho, Digital Freedom, and the Wild West of Internet Radio · Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

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  Unknown: That old
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  pesky world, it could certainly use a little changing.
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  That's the kind of things we discuss around here, have some unique insight.
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  Myself and others seem to think. Roger Sales Radio Ranch, People's Patriot Network show dated January 9. Our first full Wednesday in the first full week of the year and we do get to
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  benefit all mutually from having a conversation with Paul.
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  Now, how much interaction we're going to be able to have? We're just going to take this. I think they call it flying by the seat of the pants and so,
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  I got the new Skype
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  software. Well, I don't know exactly what's going on. Well, here's Chris. So, let me see what goes on here, okay?
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  Let's see. It will play now. If I answer, it's going to place him on hold. So, hold on, Paul. Just hold on.
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  Hey, Chris.
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  Unknown: Well, good morning. I'm going to kind of cruise in the background. No. No. You're
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  Unknown: not either. You're going to listen the other way because I gotta put Paul on hold to talk to you.
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  Oh, okay. Well, that's okay. I'll just listen. No problem. Okay. Alright, bro. So, we'll see you. It's it's going to be a looks like a conversation with Paul and I resume call is what I have to do. Hey, Paul. I'm back.
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  Hello, you're back. So, what what happened there then? Well, when Chris called, I had to put you on hold to answer his call. I can't, I don't have the option that I can find like we had on the old version of add person to this call,
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  that option's I can't find it.
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  Unknown: Okay.
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  Unknown: So
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  Unknown: he was calling in from a telephone line, wasn't he? Yes, he was. Now, I can add people to this call if they have a Skype account.
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  At this
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  point, I figured out how to do that but like Chris, I I have him down as, you know, his phone number and it says who he is when he calls in but I don't have him in the directory
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  that I can find. Let's see. Let let's just play with this. Audiences hang with us. We're just having to go trial and error here thanks to Microsoft.
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  Now, let's see. Now, hold on. I may be able to add him in. Let's see here.
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  Add.
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  Let me see if I can add Chris in this way.
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  It should be
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  let's see if it he comes in.
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  Chris Cave.
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  Yes. There you are.
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  Paul, you there? Alright.
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  Unknown: I'm still here too, and I can and I can hear Chris as well. So did you call Chris? Is that what you did? Yes. Oh, I see.
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  Right.
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  Unknown: But if anybody calls in, it looks as though you currently can't add them into this conference call. Well, now we don't know. It may be that we've gotten to be three now that people can call in, and I just don't know we're gonna have to do trial and error with this. But at least we got over this hurdle. That's pretty
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  gratifying here to start the program after yesterday's total fiasco.
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  Well, I'm able to hear you now. That's a good thing. Yeah. You're pretty clear. This is all working out far too well. I don't I don't like the sound of this at all. It's alright. Good. Alright. Well, listen. We'll. It's working. We'll muddle through it somehow and see how we go from here. Paul, welcome back to the show. Happy New Year. You and I haven't spoken very much here lately other than exchanging a few messages
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  and I know there's been a lot of water under the bridge here in the last couple of weeks. So how was your holidays?
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  Unknown: They were
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  restful, actually. Probably too restful,
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  and it's fun saying happy New Year. What day are we at now? January 8. The ninth. The ninth. So yeah. I find, I don't know about you, I'll be saying happy New Year to people right through the March. It's great. I I still I do it right through the March and April, and they look at me and they go, oh, yeah. We've not I haven't seen you this year. I'm going, no. See? That's about it really, and then I'll see them the following March or something like that, and that's what we do. So it's gonna be a happy New Year for quite a while yet as I slowly bump into and tumble into all these little pockets and groups of people that, you know, because I'm so well connected.
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  Unknown: Not Well, you do you do get around. You do glow pop hop a bit
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  Unknown: with all this modern I move with I move in eclectic and elite circles as you well know, Roger. Yes. And yes, never know when I'm going to move into Lord so and so or lady this.
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  So I have to obviously, you know, remember when I last saw them. It's like that all the time over here.
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  Unknown: You
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  Unknown: royals. To be quite honest with you, I had too big a break and I can't stop sleeping. This is terrible. I got out of bed this morning at like 10:00. I'm sort of disgusted with myself. Okay, I did roll into bed about one in the morning, but I've suddenly everything's gone slightly legs akimbo with my scheduling over here, so I'm still trying to get it back together again. This week feels slightly
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  more normal to me. Does it feel normal to you? It feels like a proper week. Yeah,
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  Unknown: all the problems that have been thrown at me, yes it does.
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  Unknown: Yeah, it takes a wee while, doesn't it, for things to settle down. I'm easily disrupted. The older I get, the more easy I'm knocked off course and takes ages for me to resettle again. So Yeah. I become more feeble with each passing year. It's great fun. Well Yeah. I get so frustrated with the well, read this and do this here and you know what? Hell, my eyes got a gut eye some eye problems and you squint and I got this big monitor,
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  Unknown: man and you're having to go through all this stuff and it's you all the technical things and it gets pretty frustrating but we'll get through it somehow. Fortunately,
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  a lot of this stuff is is intuitive.
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  So,
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  you can fumble through it. So,
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  I I wanted to you did something over the holidays that I want to promote to the audience
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  and as you've got a guy that you've been on with a couple of times, he's a very interesting guy.
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  Probably some people in our audience are already familiar with him much more than me. I just found out about him when you mentioned and that's Dennis. Is it isn't Dennis' last name Fletcher?
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  Unknown: It's
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  no. But I think, you know, next time I speak to him, I might call him that just to wind him up. That's great. Then that's good. I like the fact that it's not right. Dennis Fletcher. That's great. No. It's actually I mean, he's American. He's one of your guys. Yeah. Yeah. Can tell from him exactly. One of you lot. Alright?
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  He's called Fetcho f e t c h o and
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  he goes under the handle of The Fetch,
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  which is quite becoming
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  and memorable and
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  he's a jolly good chap. Yeah. So Dennis is a relatively new acquaintance of mine.
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  I would when did I first connect with him? I've been aware of him for a few years, actually, but
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  Michael
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  Goodrich, the author,
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  Maybe some listeners here are familiar with him. His books often have his his name on as Tom Goodrich, but
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  he is Michael Goodrich, I believe, now. And even I've got used to calling him Michael again, which he's very pleased about.
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  So
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  due to Michael, there was some kind of a conference call took place,
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  and it was a conference call. It wasn't a broadcast show. Maybe about three or four months ago, I think, probably late autumn, something like that. And I got invited onto this thing. Dennis just happened to be one of the other voices on there, and we had a little interaction, which went great.
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  I forgot what we were talking about, but it must have been something incredibly important as he always says. No. It was, I think. It was quite serious. And then after that, I ended up sort of connecting up with him a bit more. And
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  then I think sometime in December or November, I was actually on his show. He invited me on for a chat for a couple of hours, which was great fun. And we we got some calls coming in from the regular station maniac who likes to call in and just cause distress. He's troll. He's a he's a troll. Yeah. He's he's just he's he's unwell. I mean, the guy I don't mind. But there's only so many minutes of your life you can devote to actually informing people that they're unwell and and then that moves on. So that was it,
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  and then
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  there's another guy called Graham Hart.
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  He's over here in this neck of the woods and he does a show
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  on Mondays.
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  And
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  on no. I wasn't on this one, but on Christmas Eve,
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  they threw a a big sort of Christmas Eve radio show invitational, and there was about 12 people on it, including Dennis
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  and including
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  John Kaminsky and several other luminaries, people that may or may not be noted by the the audience here, but, you know, a cross selection of writers, thinkers, activists, I suppose you could call everybody who's got a a stake in, you know, we quite like the idea of our civilization carrying on in a peaceful way. People, you know, sensible people. So it was a great cast.
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  And Dennis was on that, and then he contacted me
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  a few days later.
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  This would be on when did I speak to him?
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  New Year's Day
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  night. New Year's Day not New Year's Eve,
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  but New Year's Day night. And
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  he contact he called me about nine in the evening my time. I ended up speaking to him about an hour and a half, and he said, look. I my show's on he has two shows a week. He he runs on revolution.radio,
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  which has been a staple for three or four or five years, and they've a good sort of eclectic mix of shows on there. I'm not saying you like all of them. Who who does? Right? But there there may well be something on their schedule that appeals to certain listeners. And Dennis is very much, for me, anyway, the standout sort of show on there, and he now has a show on Thursday evenings,
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  eastern time, that's six till 08:00,
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  which which for him, I think, is a massive challenge because he's he's broadcasting from The Middle East. I'm serious. Where he's in Jordan? Is he in India and Jordan or something? He could be by now. I don't know where he is. I I I like to make out that he's having these exotic Lawrence of Arabia travel experiences now.
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  But yeah. Lawrence? So I've kind yeah. I've kind of I've kind of elaborated a bit. He called me up and he said he he couldn't do his opening show on whenever it was January 3 because he was traveling. So I made out that he was obviously in disguise, dressed up as a nun going somewhere across the Middle East, and and I filled in for him. And then his other main show is on Saturdays,
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  Unknown: Saturday morning. In fact, I think it's now simulcast over PPN. Well, that's why. Slot. We do that. That's kinda why I wanted to go in this direction was to inform the audience because Paul's popped me the other day. So, Dennis, I got him over on PPN and I listened to the show. I'd listened to his show before. He's got a real good natural delivery.
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  First of all, he's been doing the show since 2011.
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  So, he he he's not just a mushroom that's popping up, you know, first time he's been out there like a lot of people that deliver a valuable message and have good content and information
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  but just haven't been recognized like what we got here, you know, really and but I as a professional
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  in this area for many years,
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  he's he's got a real natural style because I don't think he had any training
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  but he covers good subject matter. He's real, of course, anti Satan sandbox in the tribe and
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  it comes at his programming. It seems like to me from a little more of that direction.
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  The what they're doing instead of like we do here the how we're doing it and how to get out of it.
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  But I wanted to announce the audience that that's on. He's got a three hour program, doesn't he?
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  Unknown: Yeah. That's right. He's he's gonna be on Europe. He'll be back on Eurofoak Radio again as well at the end of this month once the schedule has been readjusted
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  over there. I mean, you know, when I speak to people, this is my nature. When I speak to people, I try to just expose people in as many pockets as I can because you never know quite what's gonna stick. It's not as if this is so scientific what we do.
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  And it can't be because, you know, you might have a great idea, but generally great ideas in the realm of business and marketing usually require quite a bit of finance
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  behind them. And as we all know, that's not that's not what takes place in this space currently. Who knows what it may bring? But right now, it's you know you can't sort of build marketing plans around having a nice big juicy budget to get the word out. So we do with the means don't we? We stitch and we weave and we do a few things and I think it's great and there's
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  a natural community here of lots of people who
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  disagree with one another on something or other, all of us do that,
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  that's a sign at least of good rational health I think, but also there's a recognition that there's some fundamental
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  foundational issues
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  play, and everybody's got their own way of communicating about them. I I think that that's where the great strength lies. You know? So
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  it is a grab bag. And and also the onus is then on the listener, is it not to
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  to cut their own cloth to suit? I'm sure you do. I do as well. Yeah. I can't sit around as much as I would like. I don't have enough ears or hours in the day to No. To consume all the audio live on radio. I just can't do it. So, you know, recordings and downloads and things are key
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  for all of this, and they build up the word and the momentum, and it's it's very
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  rewarding when everybody comes together. So one of the things that happened around this time
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  was that the on New Year's Day night, Graham threw another shindig as it were. There was about 11 people, and I got invited onto this, which I was glad to do.
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  But it was a bit of a night for me because I'd had an hour and a half conversation with
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  with Dennis through to about 10:30 at night my time. I then had a quick sort of twenty minute break. And then I sat in on this call or this show starting at 11:00 my time at night, and I finished at 03:00 in the morning.
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  And I was like, my face looked like a really bad road map gone wrong. It wasn't right. So I went, you don't look good. You need to
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  stick your head under a pillow. But that was fantastic. A lot of connections with a lot of good people. And that's why he wasn't on with us that day.
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  Unknown: Was gonna try and pop on. Sensible. Yeah. The last hour he was gonna try and pop on and he popped off to sleep and didn't wake up. I said, hey, It's alright. We had we had plenty to talk about. But Yeah. Dennis Yeah.
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  Dennis Fetcho, is that that's how you say his name?
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  Unknown: Yeah. Dennis Fetcho. His show is called Inside the Eye Live.
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  Doc and he has a website, theilive.com
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  and I think actually on Saturday were we not pinging messages around? We were, weren't we? Whilst the show was on, I was actually in their chat room just saying they've got a very lively and very knowledgeable and good natured chat room over there which is on insidetheilive.com,
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  and they get some good stuff going. Dennis pays attention to that during the show.
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  And he tends to break the three hours up into the first hour will be him covering a lot of new stuff, and then hour two, he'll have a guest, and hour three, often a different guest. So it might be the same one running through into two into, you know, the third hour as well. So it covers a lot of ground. It's a it's
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  a very easy, breezy,
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  but
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  clear thing, it's got a lot of natural ease about it and I find it extremely easy on the ear and it's good and he's
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  funny, he's got a wicked sense of humor as well at times and I think where he is he's allowed to express it more fully.
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  And of course he's always interesting isn't it, hearing how different people
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  come to the same matter but have a different
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  way communicating about it. It
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  sends things off in my head, I've not thought of it that way, that's really good. So there's a great shared richness in this
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  which is the whole joy of it, you know, and the whole point of it, obviously. Saturday,
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  Unknown: he had, a guy was not familiar with that writes about the Jewish issue.
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  But then, in the second hour, he had this gal from Canada, and I pinged you and said, I'd like to get her on our show,
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  that just got released from German prison
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  who got arrested in court trying to be over there defend her brother and
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  one of her attorney or her contacts was the gal that defended our Zundle, the attorney in Germany
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  that got thrown into jail in Germany for defending our Zundle for things she said in court. I mean, it's just total absurdity. Now, there was one thing though that he mentioned that I did not know and I was shocked and I wanted to be sure and mention it on the show. So, I'm glad I remembered it. Do you know that Germany is listed by the US State Department as one of the dangerous country to go to for Americans?
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  I was shocked, okay?
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  And he said, listen. Yeah. China just got added to that list. He said, Germany's been on there for a while, okay? And it's because the things you say can get you in deep caca as they say.
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  Unknown: Well, I would imagine that the US State Department ought to know because they're running Germany. Sure. Of course. So it's kinda like a double binder, isn't it? I mean, it's like a double bluff. I mean, they know that you're gonna be in trouble because they're in charge of bringing the trouble to bear.
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  I mean it's obvious that well it's not obvious but anybody that's pried into it. I mean Germany is currently
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  organised as an AG AG which is the German equivalent of a limited corporation, that's what it is,
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  And the board of directors sit in America and
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  they're not Americans either. Couple interesting
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  things. Probably a lot of deal passport lads amongst that lot, know? I don't
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  Unknown: have much contact with Germany outside of, you know, work with Carrot Bars but I was over there for the first time here a couple years ago and two two two stories I wanted to relate. It just come to mind.
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  And
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  in I was buying some electronics and and they got some real modern electronic stores over there, man. Three floors, everything you want on different floors on is very very impressive for a boy that been in the back reaches of Argentina for about five or six years, you know? And so, I'm in there getting my stuff and and and checking out with the clerk, very nice looking girl and and and we were having a conversation and we checked out and stuff and she spoke English, okay?
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  And I was saying how much I enjoyed there around
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  carrot bars in Stuttgart. So, this is in the Stuttgart area. It's not one of the bigger cities but it's it's got a lot of history. Porsche is there, all that stuff
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  and and I was commenting to her on how much I was enjoying it and it's very structured, man. If you've ever been to Europe, it's just very, everything's, okay, the people take good care of their stuff, everything's looks real nice. It's very structured and organized. I was very impressed
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  and she said, yes, but her comment,
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  yes, but we have so many rules.
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  And I just remember the way she said it, okay? Now, the other thing that's even more interesting
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  on my book, From Sovereign to Surf Government by the Treachery and Deceptional Words, the
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  the forward was written by one
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  of my dearest friends I've ever had, David Strait. One of the finest men I've ever known, okay? Unfortunately, he's not with us but he's a self made multimillionaire and into all this freedom stuff and a guy that put his money where his mouth was. All right. And he built himself a company
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  basically networking
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  prefab houses.
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  And he had such a high quality barrier on his homes. It was called Eagle's Nest Homes
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  and they had the octagon
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  house was one of
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  he he built one of those. It's kind of like one of his trademarks.
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  Anyway, he at one point was exporting those things in 19 countries around the world, alright?
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  And his. Yep. Quality standards were so high in the manufacturing end that he was the only builder of those homes in the world that could import into Germany.
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  They've got very strict import standards before the EU. This is years ago and
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  so he had a rep over there and him and the rep got to be good friends and he came over a few times and we met him and one of his contacts
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  was a vice president at Mercedes.
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  Okay?
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  And so, when the he, David wrote that,
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  it been edited down that forward which is now in my book. He sent it over to his friend in Germany who gave it to his friend who's the Mercedes Benz VP.
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  The guy read it and he said his comment was sounds like exactly what's going on in Germany.
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  Yeah.
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  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
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  you know, the woman you're referring to that was on the call is Monica Schafer, and it's her brother, Alfred Schafer, that's now incarcerated for three and a half years.
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  And
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  Monica was arrested
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  in the early part of 2018.
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  I think it was January or something.
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  It might have been a bit later than that. While she was sat in court hearing this hearing for Alfred.
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  Now she's a Canadian citizen
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  of German descent,
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  and they arrested her, and she got locked up for six months then. So she got out
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  later in 2018.
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  I can't remember quite what the dates were.
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  And then
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  the other work person I think you were referring to is the lawyer that defended Sundell,
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  Sylvia Stoltz.
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  And she was imprisoned for two years
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  for defending him too vigorously,
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  for defending Sundell,
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  quote, too vigorously,
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  unquote.
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  It's not really
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  law courts that we're talking about. And
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  so it shows you I mean, basically, the situation is is that
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  the idea of being able to present truth
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  doesn't exist in that environment. There's no point even trying to do it because the environment's insane.
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  Unknown: Of the things law court. Her brother who's in jail that she was there
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  being with when she got arrested
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  has been re
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  indicted
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  for things that he said in one of the previous trials when he was defending himself.
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  They can reindict
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  you for saying things in court in your own defense. How about that, Chris? You thought you had it bad out there, buddy,
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  Unknown: That sounds like the dilemma or the trilemma where you've got three warring factions posed as different parties attacking you in their fixed courts
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  Unknown: which are manifestly conflicted and biased and they're actually a warring force to destroy whoever they drag before them. Well, that's this about the biggest catch 22 legal situation I think I've ever seen what's going on over there. So, be forewarned
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  and I thought his point was well made.
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  Germany is on the list of dangerous countries to travel to because of what you can get into trouble wise from
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  simply
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  using
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  words.
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  Unknown: Yep. I don't like it if you use certain words.
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  How about that? Look who rules We're not. Over you
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  Unknown: To know who rules over you, look to who you cannot criticize.
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  Unknown: Well, we can criticize them. It's just best not to do it in their country or their courts.
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  Unknown: Yeah. Amen.
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  So, anyway, Dennis does a lot of that kind of covers that kind of ground and we're going to start simulcasting
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  him with Paul's excellent
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  technical assistance
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  Unknown: on Saturday mornings. That runs from, what, about ten or eleven eastern time to one, something like that? That's right. It's ten till one. We don't have much else going on at the moment, but we're trying to add things as we go through. And he's also I think we've also got his Thursday night show is nailed in as well. So that runs from
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  six till 8PM.
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  That's eastern time again on Thursdays. That's now on the PPN relay. Both of those are gonna be on EFR within about another three weeks as well once the schedule shifted there, so that's good.
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  And, you know, the idea is just I mean, if people don't like it, they don't like it, but it's good quality programming. And, you know, like I say, it's difficult to know that you you're gonna be able to pre vet every single communicator about everything that they're gonna say. We all kind of make mistakes as we go through and we're doing it, but
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  Dennis, I've got a very good feeling about. He's a and he's got a he's got a good way of of communicating this stuff. He's different, you know, and you just need to hear different voices. It's that's where the power comes from. You know who he really reminds me of when I'm listening to him? Ryan Dawson.
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  Unknown: They got basically the same style,
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  same kind of voice texture and range,
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  and
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  same kind of low key unemotional
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  delivery.
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  Dennis does have a good little dry sense of humor in there.
• 26:30
  Unknown: Yeah. I guess the listeners are gonna decide, aren't they? But, you know, he's he's built up a good following. He's been involved for quite a while, and he's very
• 26:38
  his focus is really sort of on up to the minute political sort of analysis and
• 26:44
  insight into things, and he's got a a very witty way of bursting their balloon every now and again, which I really like. So it's,
• 26:50
  you know, it's good. And there
• 26:52
  are there are more voices coming. I think once people hear more and more voices, it produces more and more voices, and there's something in that.
• 27:00
  You know, this is not so much a
• 27:03
  it's not gonna end up like an ego driven radio stations like situation out here. I don't think it's really about that at all. It's really about trying to find people that have got something to say and wanna say it in a certain way. And even if they say it badly, if you know what I mean, I. In a nonprofessional
• 27:18
  way, that's not a problem. I actually think that it's about the vitality of it, that this is really what it's about. It doesn't really matter about that other stuff. It's about the message and the way it's delivered.
• 27:29
  Unknown: And what I think of it, you know, with my background, I used to teach broadcasting for ten years, alright?
• 27:35
  And what most people don't know is about the early days of radio and you may not know about this yourself, alright?
• 27:41
  When radio was first invented in The US, in your place, it's a little different because you're smaller, you know? But over in The US,
• 27:50
  all of a sudden, there was no regulatory authority and anybody could put up a broadcasting unit.
• 27:55
  So, there was no restrictions on power. There was no restrictions on
• 28:00
  on directions of signal. There was no restrictions anywhere.
• 28:04
  Frequencies and
• 28:06
  what happened was so many people started doing it without any control mechanism
• 28:11
  that the industry with all its potential
• 28:15
  was about to strangle itself because you'd go to a frequency, you'd try and get three or four stations coming in on the same frequency and you couldn't hear any of em, alright?
• 28:24
  And that's part of the reason the FCC was formed was to give it some structure
• 28:30
  to the point that that there was the biggest transmitter that could be manufactured
• 28:37
  or was ever, I guess,
• 28:39
  was 500, zero watts. This is AM now,
• 28:44
  okay? Yeah. And so today, the power limit's 50,000. So, it gives you some sort of a comparison and
• 28:50
  I know of two of those transmitters.
• 28:53
  One was up in Cincinnati and
• 28:56
  the other one was over in Del Rio, Texas. Okay. Wolf Mad Jack, Del Rio, Texas. That's why he got out so well, alright?
• 29:05
  But the one in Cincinnati,
• 29:07
  my engineer in radio, the first engineer I ever worked with. This guy was a trip. Engineers are trip, man. As we know, right? And
• 29:17
  his name was Bill Boniger and he was from Chillicothe,
• 29:21
  Ohio
• 29:22
  and
• 29:23
  so in that vicinity around
• 29:25
  Cincinnati
• 29:27
  and
• 29:28
  he said that
• 29:29
  W was it is W W
• 29:32
  L W.
• 29:34
  Was the is the station there and they used to have that transmitter
• 29:39
  and if you lived within a couple of miles of the station,
• 29:43
  you didn't have an electric bill, and if you had opposing metals in your mouth and you opened your mouth, the radio station had come out.
• 29:52
  Unknown: Oh, I like the idea.
• 29:54
  Always There things about dentists doing it over here. Does it still happen? You know, the amalgam in the tape. Was radio four in your mouth. It goes into it. It's opposing metals, man. And if you lived within that RF range, you know,
• 30:05
  Unknown: and so that was the two things that are in industry was strangling itself and these power limits that were having those kind of effects. Of course, RF just didn't good for you, you know? But to get it in those doses. So,
• 30:19
  to say the least, right?
• 30:21
  And so, I suppose.
• 30:23
  Do what? Do what, Chris? I know you got some electrical background here. What, buddy?
• 30:29
  Unknown: That's a dipole antenna, an anode cathode.
• 30:32
  Unknown: Okay. See there? Told you you had some. So, anyway,
• 30:36
  that's so so if I if I if I start tuning into a radio station, it's the wrong one. I go and see Chris the way. Can retune me. You you might call him. You might try and call him. You could do that, Chris. But what I like in that too is kind of the the Wild Wild West we're in in internet radio right now because all these programs and hosts are popping up all over the place and people got something to say and a different way to say it and it seems to me that to to get yourself out of that, you gotta have a is a unique message
• 31:05
  and or else deliver it very well and have something that people are wanting to hear and they're going to find you. That's kind of what I see here and that's the reason for the confusion back then in those days and it's a very parallel situation at least to me in the internet radio industry right now with people that are getting so POed and everybody's got a YouTube channel and a this and a Twitter and and and scratching their tweedler or whatever or all that stuff's going on.
• 31:35
  It it's a wild wild west of internet information right now and I think that you got to somehow get yourself a little bit above the crowd and that's what I like to think we're trying to set up here, okay?
• 31:48
  Unknown: Mhmm. Yeah.
• 31:50
  I think it's
• 31:52
  I think it's, you know,
• 31:54
  it's different strokes for different folks and and different things appeal to different people, don't they? A lot of people with with YouTube channels, I've toyed with the idea myself, I don't quite know how long it would last.
• 32:06
  You can make a point and there comes a point also in the communication where you go okay
• 32:12
  we're really really clear well at least I do, we're really really clear about what we don't like,
• 32:17
  we're
• 32:18
  very clear about what we don't want to have carrying on anymore even though it keeps carrying on.
• 32:24
  So we're pretty cleared up about the negatives, we can tell everybody pretty clearly what we don't want. What we need to I think anyway, what I'm sort of looking at is trying to create a sort of more optimistic communication space for myself, really for my own sanity,
• 32:37
  to
• 32:38
  state what I do want, how we want to live. And it's pretty simple when you think about it,
• 32:43
  which is that we spend most of our time reacting
• 32:46
  to the
• 32:47
  Unknown: complexities that have been laid down by some blokes that think they know better, who obviously don't know better but we have to sort of find a way to nudge them off the helm. Well, that's what. Get their hands off the wheel. That's the that's the well, that's what we do here when you file at least over here and I'm hoping maybe this is our segway point, Paul and I'm hoping with the common law birth certificate that it does the same but that's basically what the affidavit does. Now, you gotta get out there and just like old learned hand said to reclaim your rights, you gotta be a belligerent claimant. In this case, you don't necessarily have to be belligerent. You just kind of have to know your stuff, have some self confidence,
• 33:25
  and then that self confidence when you go through those positive actions because they always do what you want them to do. Those reinforce themselves and you get re empowered.
• 33:34
  That's the process,
• 33:36
  okay? And the what
• 33:38
  the the this is the negative side of it. This is the hard side right here. What people are having to do here is undo
• 33:47
  very deeply and still Pavlovian
• 33:51
  conditioning.
• 33:53
  Unknown: That's. Yeah, that's that's really, that's that's the problem. That's the obstacle.
• 33:57
  Unknown: It's getting across that right there because people flat are so conditioned into it. They can't believe it's not only an opposite. They can't believe it's so easy to get out of and they can't get their arms around it. Now, are they not believing it or are they just scared to death and wanting to go back in into the pink cloud? I don't know the answer to that one but that really is our obstacle is undoing very deeply instilled
• 34:22
  Pavlovian
• 34:23
  conditioning.
• 34:27
  Unknown: Yeah. I think most people just find it tedious. I do. It's boring, really, on one level. I mean, you know, depending on what perspective you take. On one level, it's very interesting.
• 34:36
  On one level, we say, okay. Well, we we wanna know exactly why everything's turned to know manure
• 34:42
  and we get to find out and we can't you know as you go through those stages of looking I guess you know everybody's got a slightly different process
• 34:49
  but you continually sort of going wow these guys are really really keen on wrecking everything that we like
• 34:56
  you know, and I've often thought, where do they get all their energy from? Oh, I can't wait to wreck some more of their stuff today. Always like for them to get up in the morning and do that. It's from drink drinking all the blood from those screaming young children.
• 35:09
  Well, it's it's from certainly from doing something that goes into a much darker realm that we touch upon here in a pragmatic level because I can't I can't put it down to anything else. You know? It's not it doesn't make any sense from our perspective, thankfully. I don't want it to make any sense because it's senseless as far as I'm concerned.
• 35:25
  But, obviously, what we're seeking to do is relieve ourselves from this insane sort of pressure. And
• 35:31
  there's nothing you know, I've really sort of, at the moment, the view I'm holding, and I change these things every eighteen months you know whatever you get a different perspective don't you but in terms of trying to affect the enemy
• 35:42
  forget it I mean it's impossible there hasn't been any communication between us and the enemy ever I would suggest. Well, there isn't any. It is. There's just the appearance of communication, but there isn't any there's no substance to it. Listen, in the in the big book, we're, you know, we don't win, they fall. Okay? We win by they fall they're falling.
• 36:02
  Unknown: Dad, come on. I had something wrong on the tip of my tongue too, and I lost it.
• 36:08
  Had have you had a chance to have a conversation at all with John or find out anymore on the common law birth certificate area? I I haven't, Roger. I'm sorry to let everybody down, but I have just not had any time to do that. Well
• 36:21
  Unknown: I mean, I'm just keeping tabs on his site. It's worth gonna have a look because they had a redesign, and I'm just watching it there.
• 36:27
  I I mean, where I'm at really is this thing about I'm I'm no different to anybody else, I suppose. You have to manage your time and go. And I find that the way that my days operate now are not like they were a year and a half ago. They're very different. And so I'm still getting used to sort of reprioritizing
• 36:42
  what I want to do and where I need to do certain things. And if I try to cram in all the work I used to do in reduced hours I've now got, I go very sort of
• 36:52
  Unknown: dull, I become quite dull. Actually feel my energy, just literally go there's not even one space, a breathing space, for looking at flowers figuratively speaking. It takes the fun it takes the fun out of what we do. I like the curiosity aspect of this and let my day go where it will and I'm not trying to put any pressure on you but it is something that I feel is ultra uber important
• 37:14
  Unknown: and We can get John to explore. And get John on. But I've said, I think his his accent is such that it and he'll chuckle chuckle if he hears this. His accent is so it might not come across as clear as we would like it. But
• 37:28
  what I'm
• 37:29
  kind of looking for, know, this is just me personally, is I want really simple FAQs
• 37:34
  and simple things because
• 37:36
  I think that's what most people need, and I do think obviously it's a numbers game. It doesn't mean that we're gonna get everyone. Forget that. We don't even need to get everyone.
• 37:45
  But if you got a substantial
• 37:46
  minority,
• 37:47
  a few percent of the population,
• 37:50
  you're away. It's like there's there's something that can take off. So I think things are progressing towards that. You know, the the other big bugbear I've got, and this I was kinda reminded of it,
• 38:00
  and we can come back to the law thing, you know,
• 38:03
  anytime in this show. I'm quite happy with that. But I over the Christmas period, I got a chance to shutter
• 38:08
  watch television,
• 38:10
  and I don't do that at all.
• 38:12
  And so I watched some television. I'm very selective. I don't just sit there and graze garbage. You know? But
• 38:19
  interestingly,
• 38:20
  and I was I think I was banging on about this on some show the other day as well. So forgive me if people have heard this before. I don't know about you, Roger. I get stuck on a topic, and it's kind of the theme for about eight or ten days, and then something else comes along.
• 38:31
  And repetition is not a bad thing. But the BBC, as you are probably aware, the Bolshevik Brainwashing Corporation over here, I view it as almost enemy number one of
• 38:41
  the culture destroyers in this in this country because they're omnipresent.
• 38:46
  It's twenty four hours a day nonstop.
• 38:48
  And people pay, as you're probably aware, people pay for the privilege of having this organization
• 38:53
  brainwash them.
• 38:55
  The cost is about £12
• 38:57
  per household per month,
• 39:00
  which in dollars terms about $15 a month, and there's 22,000,000 homes do that. So their monthly revenue is 400 or $500,000,000
• 39:08
  a month. It's not bad.
• 39:13
  They And we don't get a cut in this. We get no share in the profits,
• 39:18
  and they use that money to inject
• 39:22
  vomit into the cultural bloodstream is basically what they do. And the latest example of this,
• 39:28
  because I was gonna watch this, I thought I'll watch every now and again,
• 39:33
  maybe twice a year,
• 39:35
  they might do a series or something which I think might have some merit for me, I'm very sniffy right?
• 39:42
  And
• 39:43
  they
• 39:44
  did War and Peace a few years ago which wasn't bad,
• 39:48
  and then recently
• 39:50
  the same team I believe or probably the same writer have just decided to do Victor Hugo's novel
• 39:56
  Les Miserables,
• 39:57
  Les Miserables, if you want to murder the French language, and I sometimes do. So
• 40:02
  they start this series up,
• 40:04
  and I thought, oh, okay. Well, we'll we'll record that or whatever, and I'll get to watch it, you know, as a change of pace. Because although I have not read
• 40:13
  the book, because it's pretty big, I wouldn't mind reading it. I understand
• 40:18
  that it's very much in a sort of Dickensian mold, obviously. It's French, but in the sense that it carries the great heart of Christian charity throughout it, and that there are therefore those themes of decency and goodness, which frankly, I can't be around enough these days. I wanna be reminded of those things very much.
• 40:34
  So
• 40:35
  I thought there might be a bit of that in. Anyway, I taped it,
• 40:38
  and I watched it,
• 40:39
  and I got forty five, fifty seconds into it, about that, about one minute into it, into the whole thing, at which point I hit the stop button, deleted it, and deleted the link to record the rest of the series. And the reason was
• 40:53
  that
• 40:54
  and there was a few Anglo Saxon swear words floating around my living room at the time, really. And I won't repeat them here because it is a family show, of course, but it does happen even with me. I sometimes lose control.
• 41:05
  And
• 41:07
  what occurred was that the opening scene
• 41:09
  is on the
• 41:11
  on the battlefield at Waterloo in the aftermath of the battle. It's the day after. So the battlefield is a pretty unsightly mess, you know, horses and men
• 41:20
  strewn hither, thither, and yon, and blood everywhere. Right? So it's not good. Anyway, scavengers come across the battlefield. This is a known thing that used to happen, and they would relieve the dead
• 41:29
  of their trinkets if they could find any, and particularly of their teeth because false teeth were very much in demand at the time. So if you could find somebody with a good set of gnashes, they would take their teeth out, which I think must have been a bit of a struggle.
• 41:41
  Anyway,
• 41:42
  one of these characters who I looked up afterwards is in the novel by Hugo. He's got I can't remember his name.
• 41:47
  Comes trundling across the the the field in a big whirl in his huge raincoat looking rather revolting. But even more revolting to me was the fact that when he came up to the camera,
• 41:57
  he was black. He was an Arab or something. And I just looked at this, and I thought, I'm not having this. Right? This is not a slight on Arabs or anybody.
• 42:06
  This is
• 42:07
  what I felt was, here I have an organization that is literally
• 42:11
  chewing up my history, spinning it back at me, and wanting me to absorb this stuff as if it's a genuine effort. The whole thing's a joke. Anybody involved with that production should be ashamed.
• 42:22
  It's a joke.
• 42:23
  There's no point interfering
• 42:25
  with these things unless you've got an agenda. Oh, whoops, the BBC do have an agenda.
• 42:30
  And
• 42:31
  it's just a madness.
• 42:33
  And you begin to understand, you know these sorts of historical records,
• 42:37
  Roger, that you must have come across where people attribute
• 42:40
  certain civilizations
• 42:41
  to certain people at certain times.
• 42:44
  These assumptions
• 42:45
  are made on the flimsiest and most stupid of findings,
• 42:48
  and they're continually having to be refreshed. Mean anybody that might come back and therefore watch that program
• 42:55
  could assume that basically lots of African people running around Europe at the Battle of Waterloo,
• 42:59
  which would be news to me,
• 43:01
  but by then might be taken as fact. You see how these things get distorted. So Well, it's so it's easy to mold anybody
• 43:07
  Unknown: now in the present that doesn't know that history
• 43:11
  by putting it on there and then and of course, what do they look around in their day to day lives? You guys are absolutely inundated with those people
• 43:19
  over there. Do you know in Sweden? I know. In Sweden, they'll go arrest old people now.
• 43:25
  If you post anything anti migrant
• 43:28
  on your Facebook page.
• 43:31
  Unknown: Yeah. We're we're at the end, you see. We're at the end of communication. There isn't any taking place.
• 43:35
  There's none. There isn't any.
• 43:37
  Because
• 43:38
  as far as I'm aware, communication requires that both parties have two ears that work.
• 43:44
  And
• 43:45
  we were in a situation where that's no longer happening. It absolutely is not happening at all. There is no listening taking place because
• 43:53
  the judgment on the other side is already in,
• 43:57
  They've consumed that. They're already made the hard judgment in their head. Their entire operating system has shifted,
• 44:03
  and it's like Windows trying to talk to Macintosh. It's just it ain't happening. Here's another. Here's look like the same, but it ain't happening. Here's another Alright.
• 44:12
  Unknown: Yet, you might but let me give this other
• 44:14
  example just last couple of days.
• 44:17
  CNBC
• 44:18
  said in a statement that they would no longer discuss
• 44:22
  climate change
• 44:24
  because the scientific
• 44:25
  facts were in.
• 44:28
  Is that right? They would no longer have any counter discussion
• 44:32
  against global warming climate change. Yes, Chris. I'll turn it over to you. I know you got something good to say, bro.
• 44:39
  Unknown: Well, for Paul's point of view, I would reiterate from cool hand Luke. Yeah. What we have here is,
• 44:47
  hey, you you communicate. And
• 44:50
  Unknown: also do.
• 44:52
  Unknown: And also, we're involved in the information war, the propaganda war,
• 44:56
  the injection of false information into the lame stream media scheme,
• 45:00
  and that is information wars, not to give credit to,
• 45:03
  the other station over there with the Billy mouthpiece.
• 45:07
  But I'm off the court this morning. I'm defending again. We're going to be trying to get sanctions against the city for failure to comply with the discovery mandates of all inculpatory,
• 45:18
  exculpatory,
• 45:19
  and impeaching evidence for the other side. And I put in a plethora of information in my case during the past few days. So it could be interesting this morning. It may get dismissed.
• 45:28
  Unknown: Well, godspeed
• 45:29
  to you, my friend, and I hope you get some satisfaction out of that and I know you'll want to call call and report tomorrow.
• 45:38
  Unknown: Yes, indeed. If I'm still at large, I'll be on the air. You can't keep this man down. If they throw you in another psych ward to help get you out again.
• 45:47
  Unknown: I appreciate that always. Be there. Bye bye. See you, Chris. Do you know that story, Paul? Hi, Chris. Do you know that story? I don't. I do. Chris and this quagmire
• 45:57
  he's out in out there that he stumbled into that they're trying like hell not to get exposed. That's what a lot of this he's talking about right there is. This was back, gosh, it must have been three years ago or something.
• 46:10
  They, through their nep nepetitious
• 46:14
  structure over there with this guy's wife being on this council and etcetera, etcetera.
• 46:19
  This is Vegas now, alright?
• 46:22
  And so, they got somebody appointed as his guardian and threw him in the State Funny Farm up the road there from Las Vegas for
• 46:32
  pretty good while, few months
• 46:34
  and they had a a call.
• 46:37
  They could call
• 46:39
  you could they had a phone there that people could call
• 46:42
  and he got the number somehow to us and we called in there. We talked to him while he was in the Funny Farm.
• 46:50
  And one day, we got on there with him for two hours, the whole two hour show
• 46:56
  and covered all his problems and then at the back end, he goes, listen, man, this is a guy I've met in here. He's in here. They murdered his girlfriend
• 47:04
  and they'd really done a number on this guy and he they'd stuck him up there too and we put him on the air for, I don't know, fifteen minutes, twenty minutes, something like that. Man, they came and yanked Chris out of that room and kicked him out.
• 47:18
  So, I don't know what effect we had but we had some kind of an effect, okay?
• 47:22
  And
• 47:23
  it was funny. You you especially
• 47:26
  hear him tell it but he went through a lot of I mean, it was like Jack Nicholson in one flew over the cuckoo's nest, you know? They're coming in there trying to shoot you up with stuff. You're going, no. No. I'm not crazy. I'm not going to take that. That kind of stuff.
• 47:41
  Unknown: Yeah. It's worrying, isn't it? I can see, you know, obviously, you know, he's safe now or he was up until a few minutes ago, so let's hope he maintains his liberty. Well I mean, you know? He's got him. I know how serious it can get. It's easy. I mean, it's funny. You know? If people have not been through a process like that, and I have,
• 47:56
  it's
• 47:57
  not good. No. It's not fun. It's not good. No. It's just not fun. And I don't wanna outsmart them. I just don't wanna be there. You see, it's like it's it's not a matter of actually having a a fight with them. I want them to sort of swing their punches and them to just go through clean air. I don't we shouldn't even be there. It's interacting interacting with them that's the problem. Yes it is. And
• 48:17
  know, I don't want to interact with them at all but what we have to do is
• 48:21
  there's all sorts of ways.
• 48:23
  This is a war of words in the sense that if we cast
• 48:28
  Unknown: Have I lost you?
• 48:32
  Ella.
• 48:33
  Well, now I've lost Paul. I can't hear you. Okay. There we go. Reconnected it. Gave me a little message.
• 48:39
  Oh, alright. Can you hear me again? Yes. I I think it was maybe Chris hanging up or something. Sound like some kind of phone analog stuff came in. Anyway, regardless, sorry for the interruption.
• 48:50
  Unknown: No, that's alright. If Chris is still on there but he's gone, you probably need to cut him off the call really. That might help a little bit. It might be that. Okay,
• 48:57
  Unknown: let's see. How do you do that?
• 49:00
  Remove
• 49:01
  from call. I'm.
• 49:03
  There he's gone now.
• 49:05
  Okay.
• 49:06
  Yeah, because he was on there. I heard just as he. So, is that how you do it? Is somebody's gotta call in? If I can't answer the call, I've gotta put em on hold.
• 49:16
  At least if they let me know they're calling in,
• 49:19
  then, I can go in and add em to the call from this end. Is that how you do it?
• 49:24
  Unknown: I don't know because I don't have the sort of fancy Dan's Skype account that you've got, but I suspect Roger that there will be a relatively straightforward way of doing this because I'm on conference calls quite regularly where we have more than one person on the telephone joining the call as well as Skype holders. So I think from a call management point of view, it's got to be doable. Dale, it's just something new. They took me I didn't realize one of the things in the big differences, you know, in your version of Skype up there at the top and it's got the options,
• 49:54
  Unknown: view, file,
• 49:55
  history, whatever, all those pull downs are.
• 49:59
  Yep. Well, those aren't on this version
• 50:01
  but the the tech guy I was talking with had this version said, I've got mine up there. I just don't know why yours are and we spend a lot of time just trying to find how to reinstitute those options so you can do all this call stuff easier but I'm like you. I I'm sure there's a way that's engineered into it. I just don't know quite how to do it yet. We might have to do it a little a little left handed you know,
• 50:26
  add people to the call from my end or whatever. We'll see. I certainly hope that's not the case because one of the joys of the program to me and I think to the audience is we can get multiple people on here and have a multifaceted
• 50:39
  discussion on
• 50:41
  intricate issues of great importance.
• 50:45
  Unknown: Well, I think you need it as well because it's easy to run dry over two hours. Seriously. It is. When you're plowing through the info. You know, I know there's a lot of information out there. I I mean, I talk to people about this. They say, well, you just sit down in front of the mic and talk for a bit. Well, yeah. But, actually, if you're gonna really do it good, you're really probably spending twice as much time preparing
• 51:03
  to try and sort of identify material that you wanna do to cover If you need to stay relevant, I mean, certain things do need repeating over and over again, and I don't have a problem with it. It's just that, you know, you don't necessarily wanna be the person that's doing the repeating all the time. Well, I actually need to go shopping, and I'm gonna do this as well, but, you know, okay. Let's go through it again. Yeah. Because it doesn't harm but Well, especially for me because this isn't just like a show I'm going to give you the news. This is hey, I got your freedom here if you want to listen in and start to understand this and move on it and act on it. If not, you probably want to know about it. If for no other reason, then it could give you your damn sanity back, okay?
• 51:38
  Unknown: And but I can't sit there for two hours every day, day in, day out, and I want to help people. I want to answer people's questions. I know this is intricate information for people to understand.
• 51:50
  I had a lot of problems with it myself early on. I understand what's going on now and I think we've cut through.
• 51:57
  I was telling Glenn the other day in a in a chat exchange we had. I said, I believe I've got it down to where I can at least give somebody the parameters of this in less than five minutes.
• 52:09
  Okay? Now. Yes. That's a substantial improvement because for many years,
• 52:14
  it took me three hours
• 52:16
  of somebody's attention to get them to a point where you could show em what's going on, okay?
• 52:21
  And have em really understand the background on it, alright?
• 52:25
  So, that's a big hurdle right there and that's part of the
• 52:30
  improvement or the changes or the the seasoning that needs to go through for when
• 52:36
  masses are ready to be exposed to this.
• 52:41
  Unknown: I think, you know, half of the
• 52:44
  we're all rightfully, I'm always looking for sort of a different way of looking at what the problem is because,
• 52:52
  a, I'm
• 52:53
  I'm just built that way.
• 52:55
  And so always trying to say, what what have I missed? And I've always missed something, which is
• 52:59
  both irritating but rewarding at the same time when you kind of find something and go oh yeah I've not thought of it in that particular way. I think
• 53:07
  it's the big picture that I've been thinking about a lot. In terms of specifics, I've done work on specifics and we
• 53:14
  need to work on specifics because
• 53:17
  stress testing the system to find a
• 53:20
  communications tactic or strategy is important to know how to deal with it. But, you know, I'm reminded of, like,
• 53:28
  some of the structures that are put forward in the art of war by Sun Tzu. These very simple things like, if
• 53:35
  you're gonna wage a war on an enemy, outnumber him seven to one, attack immediately, and totally wipe him out. I like that. And the reason why you do that is that it leads to the least loss of life.
• 53:46
  Don't go into a battle evenly matched. This is very, very bad. You don't wanna be doing that at all. Don't engage in one. If you are heavily outnumbered, run away. These are really basic stuff. Go and hide in the mountains and fight a guerrilla war on your terms.
• 54:00
  And so
• 54:01
  we kinda need to do that. And I'm not saying that we're not or that people aren't doing that. I mean, people are limited, but the
• 54:08
  the limited in the sense of the resources that we have available, you know, to fight against these things, if fight is the right word. As I said, I think we're we're really looking more like a sort of
• 54:18
  Unknown: a judo principle. We wanna get out the way and have them use their own force against themselves because after all, it has power that they filched from us. Well, it's like Brent says, it says right there in the Bible, do not fight her, you know, and that come out of her, my people, come out of her. There's the other statement. Yeah. And that's what, you know, I think I've done personally
• 54:38
  in all the different key areas
• 54:40
  and then I try and then not only teach the listeners to but maybe encourage them and for people to understand that this is the answer. You don't go fight with them. That's why, oh, go to court. This don't want to go into their court if you absolutely don't have to and I believe that maybe we've got it structured where if you catch the right person that didn't already in problems. Now, that's a different
• 55:02
  horse of a different color, okay? But the average person with a clean slate, I think
• 55:07
  can skate through life fairly unscathed.
• 55:10
  If if they do the stuff correctly and and understand and have that
• 55:15
  it really, Paul, is a flame
• 55:17
  that burns in your heart. It's what it is.
• 55:22
  Well, it probably burned in everybody's heart. Just depends how hot the kitchen has to get. For some people, very, very, very, very hot before they It does not burn. No. It does not burn in everybody's heart, unfortunately. I wish that were the case. There's a lot of people that will take the handout every day over having individual responsibility
• 55:40
  and true freedom.
• 55:43
  Unknown: Well, that's true. That is true. I mean, think
• 55:46
  you see,
• 55:47
  we get born, don't we, whenever we got born. And we were born I'm
• 55:52
  talking historical timeline here, and you
• 55:54
  get born into the brainwashing of the day that's going on. I think that's really the case.
• 55:59
  You don't experience it as brainwashing when you're young, because it's just the culture that you grow up in certainly from a distance. Well you don't have a comparison.
• 56:08
  I
• 56:09
  remember being sort of young in the sixties and the Beatles was played over there, I didn't mind, I thought it was quite fun, I didn't have any sense that oh this is a Tavistock Institute experiment, which it was,
• 56:18
  I didn't
• 56:20
  Then you have all the hippie thing, think oh they look, what are they all doing? I'm eight or nine and watching the Isle of Wight festival on TV and all these hippies
• 56:27
  pouncing around and doing whatever they're doing. I was never attracted to being a hippie but it was kind of intriguing when you've a nine and 10 year old brain and then you find out it's a CIA ruptured thing to get drugs in there and to wreck families.
• 56:39
  Unknown: To start the
• 56:41
  social upheaval.
• 56:43
  Unknown: Yeah, to start it. And I remember making observations like my mother and father came from the war generation and they were different
• 56:52
  from parents of many of the people I went to school with who were younger.
• 56:57
  So my parents were in their thirties really when I arrived, which in those days was quite was deemed to be old. Right? Right. You basically got married at 19 or 20. You're having children at 22 and 23. No. You're 17.
• 57:11
  Unknown: You just got married because you already had them.
• 57:14
  Unknown: That's right. So now I viewed that when I was young as well, I thought, oh, my parents were a bit old fashioned. Because they were actually in comparison to what was trendy. And so that didn't probably sit too well with me. I thought, oh, no. My mom and dad are not kinda cool or anything like that. But now, in retrospect, I see it for the great boon that it was because I got a view of a different way.
• 57:34
  The way that they were is the way that I'm massively attracted to as I've got older. Mhmm. Because it's based on much simpler, sounder principles,
• 57:43
  old fashioned principles of things like loyalty
• 57:46
  and duty
• 57:47
  and integrity
• 57:49
  and honor,
• 57:50
  and that's what they did. And I have I have this little quip.
• 57:54
  You know, the modern world, Roger, is it not
• 57:57
  a thing? You know, certainly, well, maybe not now because relations between the sixties are so fractured due to feminism sort of, you know, exploding all over the place or whatever word we wanna use.
• 58:07
  But
• 58:08
  if you look back on it, say the eighties and nineties, a lot of talk about relationships and how this, that, and the other. And I used to say, my mom and dad didn't have a relationship, and people of that generation, they didn't have relationships. They had children.
• 58:20
  And they just it was a much more pragmatic thing
• 58:24
  that was that was going on, and it works.
• 58:27
  It works. It's not about people indulging in every little whimsical feeling that they've got. And you know, the British way, traditionally, of course, you won't see much these days, you've got a lot of bleating ninnies all over the place, but traditionally the British way was the stiff upper lip, was to be reserved, was to contain yourself
• 58:44
  and take some time before you open your mouth.
• 58:47
  That way, you're much more likely to make a considered and relevant remark than to just sort of, you know, blabbing all over the place.
• 58:54
  Unknown: And, of course, it's what it's that old fashioned thing as well called good manners. And, you know, I've been thinking about good manners a lot. Do you ever find yourself thinking about odd things that surprise you, that you're dwelling on these things? This was one of them. Thought I did. And and I I can tell you when I was in Argentina and dating that girl down there and of course, her husband had been killed in an auto accident ten years before but her five children all they all eat dinner down there together every night And I was astounded
• 59:21
  at the manners. Not of the not of the boys but of the girl.
• 59:26
  And
• 59:27
  yeah the and and I don't know that maybe a big difference in
• 59:31
  the Catholic culture as opposed to the Protestant culture. I just don't know. I'd never been around the Catholic culture all that much till I moved down here to South America, quite honestly. Right.
• 59:42
  Unknown: Yeah. Well, they they had emphasis on family.
• 59:45
  A strong bait based on their resistance to abortion, which is a good resistance. Of course, it is. But
• 59:51
  I think it's universal is good manners. There's something
• 59:57
  about when somebody behaves well,
• 1:00:00
  it's not possible to behave badly towards them without
• 1:00:03
  a great sense of stupidity falling upon you if you do that. It's like a natural measure that comes into play.
• 1:00:11
  It's a and and I've say this inside and outside of any race or culture. If people behave well,
• 1:00:18
  you are drawn to them a lot more. I mean, I've seen some very strange interactions in my life. There was I think I may have mentioned here a couple of weeks ago when we were on or maybe a month back.
• 1:00:27
  I used to work in this really ruffly, tufty place, and there was this they used to be this happened a lot. The management were extremely dignified and well behaved,
• 1:00:36
  and
• 1:00:37
  the workers were really the roughest guys you could imagine. And you probably don't need to use much imagination to bring those up in your mind, Roger. I'm sure of it, but you get the drift, right? And they used to be these they would communicate to one another,
• 1:00:50
  and the rough guys would be
• 1:00:53
  what's the right word? Dutiful?
• 1:00:54
  At least well behaved during those moments.
• 1:00:57
  This is now they don't have to. I mean, okay. You could say it's it's sensible because he was their employer.
• 1:01:03
  Of course. Right? But I still think inside and outside of that, they wouldn't have done that. And it's it's
• 1:01:09
  that's nothing to do with money. It's just to do with good manners and being decent and civil and listening to the other person.
• 1:01:17
  And things used to be like that. I mean, that's the basis where you can actually get a bit of shared wisdom arising if you're fortunate.
• 1:01:23
  Unknown: Well, that's exactly what they wanna prevent.
• 1:01:26
  Unknown: Of course. Absolutely. That's why everything's been turned into a sort of revolt fest, foul language everywhere, you know, and then you're approved if you object to foul language and all this. Well, if you take a position, you're labeled and you're shouted down.
• 1:01:41
  Unknown: There is no communication. There is no discussion of ideas.
• 1:01:44
  They're calling you names that they've wrote but just been given that they don't even understand the definitions to. This is all Frankfort school stuff and I think what you're seeing there in like in Sweden
• 1:01:56
  and with the global
• 1:01:58
  warming
• 1:02:00
  any kind of facts being antipodal to the to the discussion.
• 1:02:04
  I think those are the latter stages of the Frankfurt School Plan.
• 1:02:10
  First of all, you bring it, you you get it marginalized,
• 1:02:13
  and then you totally outlaw it. I mean, in that a logical kind of progression?
• 1:02:19
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:02:20
  Unknown: It is. Listen, let me let's just because I'm I've got a big, you know, I'm like a one of those Cajuns in South Louisiana.
• 1:02:28
  I got a real big curious.
• 1:02:30
  I got a real big curious on on how this Skype thing works. So, if anybody wanted to try and call in to see if we can answer a phone line or if I've gotta call you back, if you're one of the registered
• 1:02:42
  regular callers, you're registered pretty much in my
• 1:02:45
  when somebody calls in, I identify em so I know when they're calling in and you're in that database and I think I can call you back if we have to put Paul on hold to answer yours. We can do the same way with Chris kind of take care of it from this end but I've got a real big curious how that works. If anybody wants to, you know, call in. It's (404)
• 1:03:06
  448-1420
• 1:03:09
  is the old
• 1:03:11
  People's Patriot Network profile.
• 1:03:14
  Paul, did you have anything else on your mind?
• 1:03:17
  Today that you wanted to talk about? Probably
• 1:03:20
  Unknown: loads of things, know, all depends.
• 1:03:25
  I don't know really what you want say. I mean, what
• 1:03:28
  else has just gone on recently? All
• 1:03:31
  I was gonna say is
• 1:03:32
  a happy New Year to everyone here, really, and a prosperous New Year, whatever we might mean by that. I also think it's likely to be a pretty explosive study. It feels that way. I mean, maybe you can always feel that way at the beginning of every year, but the yellow vest thing in in France continues on.
• 1:03:49
  There was a great video clip. I don't know if you saw it. This French boxer just battering
• 1:03:54
  Unknown: I I just read I read a reference to that in an article on it today, I didn't see the video. Enough. You know? They've had enough. The other thing, although we don't have it in English, a quote
• 1:04:04
  Unknown: from a head of the French military,
• 1:04:07
  absolutely lambasting Macron and said, I'm safe.
• 1:04:11
  You're not that was the gist of it. He would say, you know, you gotta go. And so
• 1:04:17
  the whole thing's falling apart,
• 1:04:19
  I think. I think it's falling apart. We're gonna have to see what they're gonna do. And and even more so than that, it's spreading to other countries.
• 1:04:27
  Yeah. Well, was what happened here
• 1:04:30
  at the weekend, there was some kind of yellow vest thing here in London.
• 1:04:35
  So
• 1:04:35
  and then I was listening to some radio thing last night, you know, an established radio station here in The UK,
• 1:04:42
  and they had somebody calling in about it. And they were lambasting it
• 1:04:45
  because they were talking about it being the EDL, the English Defense League, had now put yellow vest on. So what they do is they'll do anything to sort of mitigate a genuine response from people. Everything is
• 1:04:56
  that people do is obviously not
• 1:05:00
  straight up and is a mess, but everything that they do in communicating it, you can trust us, that's fallen away. I mean to be
• 1:05:08
  an establishment journalist is not a job you
• 1:05:11
  to be be involved in that.
• 1:05:12
  But please stay in it so you can be identified.
• 1:05:15
  Unknown: How about being a coin collector? Is that a good vocation?
• 1:05:20
  Might be. I don't know. It is it is in this particular
• 1:05:23
  it is in this particular instance here. Now you gotta keep in mind,
• 1:05:28
  I I started collecting coins when I was a young boy and we were living. I was still in high school, younger years of high school and my dad got into it with me and what he'd do is he'd go to the bank there on the we lived on the Air Force Base and he'd get a couple of bags of change, different, you know, a couple thousand dollars or whatever change
• 1:05:47
  and he bring it home and over the weekend, we'd set up a coffee table and get those blue
• 1:05:52
  trifold
• 1:05:53
  things for different 0.25, dimes, and pennies before this, pennies after that and we'd find those dates and those mint marks and fill those holes.
• 1:06:03
  Okay? Do you know what I'm talking about? Let me clear my throat here. Kinda do. Yeah, maybe. Maybe I do. Yeah. I've sort of got an idea. So, those were my early years and early experiences with coinage and numismatic stuff
• 1:06:15
  and we still have all those by the way.
• 1:06:19
  So, anyway, things like that because of that and then later on, I've started collecting coins but I like em to be gold and silver and
• 1:06:27
  so I've got an interest in that area and a history. Well, I've stumbled on this story here today. Pretty interesting, really.
• 1:06:35
  A rare penny
• 1:06:37
  found in a boy's lunch money
• 1:06:40
  could fetch up to 1,700,000
• 1:06:43
  at
• 1:06:44
  auction. That's pretty good, isn't it?
• 1:06:47
  That's not bad. Okay. Where is this boy, and where is this country? This is a very interesting story. Okay? It's not too long, actually. It's a $19.43
• 1:06:56
  copper penny. Lincoln
• 1:06:58
  Copperhead
• 1:06:59
  penny. Now anybody that collects
• 1:07:02
  coins would remember that in the war years
• 1:07:05
  because
• 1:07:06
  copper was so valuable than helping to make brass
• 1:07:10
  that they started pressing pennies out of steel
• 1:07:14
  and there was three years when you had steel pennies. I've got few rolls of em still to this day. You don't see em circulating anymore. They've been pulled out of circulation
• 1:07:23
  by collectors and whatnot over the years or just worn out or new ones, whatever. They're just like little pieces of some kind of cheap metal now. They used to be real copper. Well, what happened when they transitioned
• 1:07:35
  over
• 1:07:36
  evidently that I'm going to give you a little paraphrase and I'll read you a little bit of the article.
• 1:07:41
  When they transitioned over and then they have the dyes that press the pennies and
• 1:07:46
  there was about 20
• 1:07:48
  of the copper ones that went through before the steel
• 1:07:52
  took effect
• 1:07:53
  and so there's a few of these coins
• 1:07:57
  that are copper and this is one of em, alright? And this is the story here. A rare 19 and this is also a
• 1:08:05
  very good endorsement
• 1:08:07
  of being patient.
• 1:08:09
  A rare $19.43
• 1:08:10
  copper copper Lincoln cent found by a Massachusetts
• 1:08:15
  teenager
• 1:08:16
  in his change
• 1:08:17
  after he paid for lunch at a school cafeteria.
• 1:08:20
  It's how he found it. It is expected to fetch up to $17,000,000
• 1:08:25
  when it's auctioned off. The coin
• 1:08:27
  produced accidentally
• 1:08:28
  by the US Mint has been described as the most famous coin made in error
• 1:08:34
  according to these people that are big auctioneers in this area. In 1942,
• 1:08:40
  pennies were supposed to be struck from steel in order to construct copper for shell casings, telephone wire, and other wartime necessities.
• 1:08:49
  However, a small number of bronze blanks
• 1:08:53
  were caught in the mints presses
• 1:08:56
  and were struck into pennies in the New Year.
• 1:09:00
  The resulting
• 1:09:01
  copper cents
• 1:09:02
  were lost in the floods of millions of steel coins
• 1:09:07
  escaped detection
• 1:09:08
  by the mint's quality control measures
• 1:09:11
  and quality
• 1:09:13
  slipped into
• 1:09:14
  and quantity,
• 1:09:15
  quietly, excuse me, slipped into circulation.
• 1:09:19
  It is believed that only 20 of the rare coins were made,
• 1:09:23
  one teen,
• 1:09:24
  a 16 year old, you got a son about 16, don't you? There, Paul? A 16 year old coin collector, Don Lutz Junior
• 1:09:34
  of Pittsfield,
• 1:09:35
  Massachusetts,
• 1:09:37
  found one in the change
• 1:09:39
  he got after buying lunch in a school cafeteria
• 1:09:43
  in March
• 1:09:45
  1947.
• 1:09:48
  At that time,
• 1:09:50
  it was falsely reported
• 1:09:52
  that the that
• 1:09:54
  car magnate,
• 1:09:56
  Henry Ford,
• 1:09:57
  would give a new car to anyone who could give him one of these nineteen forty three copper pennies.
• 1:10:04
  Lutz contacted the Ford Motor Company but was told that the rumor was false. Believe it or not, there was fake news back then. He also contacted
• 1:10:13
  the treasury department
• 1:10:15
  about the find but the mint steadfastly
• 1:10:18
  denied any copper specimens
• 1:10:20
  had been struck in 1943.
• 1:10:24
  Lutes died
• 1:10:26
  September
• 1:10:26
  of last year
• 1:10:28
  and now the coin is up for auction.
• 1:10:31
  Bids for the coin are currently at $100
• 1:10:36
  but another $19.43
• 1:10:37
  copper cent was sold by a New Jersey dealer to an anonymous buyer for 1,700,000
• 1:10:44
  in
• 1:10:45
  2010.
• 1:10:47
  Dare I say there's been a few QE 3 fours
• 1:10:51
  since 2010.
• 1:10:53
  The process of the sale, the proceeds of the sale went to charity. Good for you. While a number of other examples have surfaced over the years, no other specimen has been celebrated and written about as much as this remarkable coin. So, the Heritage Auction,
• 1:11:11
  this piece inspires
• 1:11:13
  a special pride of ownership,
• 1:11:15
  not equaled by any other
• 1:11:18
  example.
• 1:11:20
  This lot represents
• 1:11:21
  a true once in a lifetime opportunity.
• 1:11:24
  Ain't that interesting?
• 1:11:26
  Unknown: It is.
• 1:11:28
  It is. It's very interesting for that lad.
• 1:11:30
  Unknown: No. He's gone. He's gone. He's gone now. He died. Alright. See, there's the perseverance part of this. He knew he had something.
• 1:11:38
  Henry Ford wouldn't give him a car for it and he's denied
• 1:11:43
  that they were out there and he's holding it in his hand. So, he kept it his whole life and when he died, his heirs have put it up this auction and yeah, it's real and somebody's going to benefit to the tune of one points, what, one. Seven is low. I guarantee you, this thing's going higher than that. It's been ten years since that other one sold almost eight years. Yeah.
• 1:12:06
  Unbelievable. Really? Yeah. Well, it is. The rarest one up to that point that I remember, there was couple little miss miss chip things but the rarest one generally was from 1919
• 1:12:19
  and it was a S which means from the San Francisco Mint
• 1:12:23
  and it had a little nomenclature
• 1:12:25
  on the bottom of the
• 1:12:27
  statue of Lincoln there as it meets the edge of the coin. It said VDB
• 1:12:32
  and if you could find a 1919
• 1:12:34
  SVDB,
• 1:12:36
  you really had something, okay? But nothing like this right here.
• 1:12:40
  No. So, anyway, I just stumbled on that story this morning. I had an interest in it. Thought it was cool. Thought we might kill a little time. We did all those things.
• 1:12:50
  Unknown: It was good. It was good. I'm not I mean, I've never
• 1:12:53
  I've never done the knee I don't understand collecting, I suppose, really. It's
• 1:12:58
  just not part of my makeup.
• 1:12:59
  But you I
• 1:13:01
  the idea of having a lot of sovereigns somewhere is actually, obviously, relatively appealing, of course, if you've if you've got a few. Something like that, though, is extremely strange, isn't it? Very I mean, it's just a really
• 1:13:11
  Unknown: a very odd rarity Well in the whole of the process. A lot of complexity behind the story of the coin. Well, there's yes, it is. And and especially since they didn't even realize it and then didn't wanna admit their mistake, typical government bureaucracy, right?
• 1:13:26
  Yeah. But the other one that is the big
• 1:13:30
  mystery
• 1:13:31
  in
• 1:13:32
  this area are the $19.33
• 1:13:35
  Saint Gaudens.
• 1:13:37
  Okay? Now, do you know, do you know about that? Okay.
• 1:13:40
  Well, the Saint Gaudens is supposed to be. That's the
• 1:13:44
  design by the the guy was the guy that designed the coin, okay?
• 1:13:49
  Saint Gaudens is a walking liberty
• 1:13:52
  and it was it's supposed to be the most beautiful coin ever struck
• 1:13:55
  and that coin because of that unique striking,
• 1:13:59
  one of the things that made it the most beautiful was it had what's called very high relief
• 1:14:04
  and that means when they struck the coin, the image came up. It wasn't flat, okay? It was raised.
• 1:14:12
  So, it had a tendency to wear off a little bit but
• 1:14:18
  when they pulled what we talk about so much here that influences us on a regular basis, the bankruptcy of 03/09/1933,
• 1:14:27
  they took all those.
• 1:14:29
  Okay, they didn't go out and go door to door and go, okay, Paul, it's against the law now. Turn your gold coins in. They didn't do that. They went, they could do it very easily back then because all the gold was mainly in the banks. So, you only had to go to one spot to get it or go rifle through the safety deposit boxes,
• 1:14:48
  okay?
• 1:14:50
  But it it's different today when they'd have to come out and take a metal detector in your backyard, alright? Because you've been doing some midnight gardening,
• 1:14:57
  alright?
• 1:14:59
  But regardless,
• 1:15:00
  those were all taken in the confiscation
• 1:15:04
  and the mint somehow that
• 1:15:07
  year, that that next year, they they minted a couple of em that got out. There's about 10 of em out there. One of em zoned by the
• 1:15:16
  one of the crowd, a Saudi Crown Princess. I forget how many millions. I got some people in the background. Must be somebody looking at this apartment. So, that's what the conversation's about but anyway, the if you're picking that up on the microphone, I don't know if you are or not.
• 1:15:31
  No. The
• 1:15:33
  those Saint Gaudens, there's a guy that worked at the Mint that evidently smuggled
• 1:15:39
  10 about seven of em out, okay? And he's kept em for all these years and he died and his kids got em and wrote the men and said, we've got these same gardens
• 1:15:51
  and the men came confiscated him. Now, I don't know. They took it to court. I'm not sure what the deposition ever was but the men's claiming, hey, these were stolen. It's our property.
• 1:16:03
  And then you're talking about multi gazillions of dollars worth of value in those things. I think they had seven of them.
• 1:16:13
  Unknown: I'd heard of that. Yeah. As you were going through the story, I remember Saint Gardens.
• 1:16:17
  Mean, I did a bit of research into sovereigns
• 1:16:20
  What? Twenty years ago. Yes. Wonderful coin.
• 1:16:24
  I maybe not twenty years ago. And I was looking at the idea of mobilizing
• 1:16:28
  gold. I just used this word mobilizing it because I thought was I trying to find out how many coins have been minted, you know, so you've got
• 1:16:36
  but particularly in gold, we got Krugerrands and this, that, and the other.
• 1:16:40
  And thought, you know, I just had this imaginary picture that most of them were actually asleep in people's drawers,
• 1:16:47
  not doing very much. And therefore, you could find a way of mobilizing this, you had a payment system.
• 1:16:53
  And you
• 1:16:54
  could still do that, of course. I mean,
• 1:16:57
  it's tricky
• 1:16:58
  given that the physicality of moving gold around is part of the problem really. It's not as easy now that we've got the net to instantaneously
• 1:17:06
  purchase things.
• 1:17:07
  Unknown: Utility.
• 1:17:09
  Unknown: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:17:10
  It's just not as easy. I mean I won't mind it but of course you know
• 1:17:14
  we're talking about going back then to local economies,
• 1:17:18
  which I would prefer as well.
• 1:17:20
  In fact, I just think everything, you know, the bulk of what you do really needs to be produced and consumed locally. It's much more fun. And you get to know everybody. Globalism is just incredibly bland. As it gets as it matures, you know, everything is just becoming uniformly tedious.
• 1:17:34
  It might be technically excellent, but it's actually not much fun.
• 1:17:38
  And so the old ways are still kind of more appealing to me. I'm just turning into,
• 1:17:43
  you know, a luddite on every level. I just want the old stuff. Well, what I what I found with the cyber coins
• 1:17:49
  Unknown: and the reason that I really prefer them over
• 1:17:53
  gold and silver, I understand all the reasons on both sides, is that one thing right there, utility.
• 1:17:59
  And
• 1:18:01
  it's fine as long as I can take the little stash that I was able to accumulate and leave it down there where it is, you know, down in Uruguay in this vault. Like like Walt like Warren Buffett says, it just you bury it in the ground that doesn't do anything, you know, and he's right. It doesn't do anything except
• 1:18:20
  preserve your purchasing power,
• 1:18:22
  alright? Yeah. But you gotta have that guard and all that stuff and that's why when we got into cyber coins and the first time, I'm not kidding you, Paul. When I was my my little friend that I'm so fond of in Russia,
• 1:18:34
  strictly platonic, okay? I just wish she was sharpest women I've ever met, young women
• 1:18:39
  and I was particularly drawn to her and so, I wanted to get Kate involved and so, so, well, I'll send you. I don't have any Bitcoin. Well, I'll send you a tenth of a Bitcoin back then pretty cheap and so, poop.
• 1:18:52
  Bam in Russia. Oh, got it. I went, holy smokes, man. Future.
• 1:18:57
  You you can't hardly do that and especially, most of the people in where you that are listening, you live some place and you live there for a while and like, yeah, we got a lot of listeners inside The US. They've never had to leave the country and deal with all this currency exchange and getting currency to you and being able to access it through these countries laws and restrictions
• 1:19:20
  and all of this exchange rates fluctuating
• 1:19:23
  wildly.
• 1:19:24
  I mean, that's a whole field that most people have never had to deal with, okay?
• 1:19:30
  And when you get the personal experience and you see how this absolutely
• 1:19:35
  like a hot knife through butter. Bam. It goes through all those problems.
• 1:19:40
  Boom.
• 1:19:42
  I mean, I actually I remember Egold. Do you remember Egold? Yep. Sure do. I was reading an article about those guys the other day and how they trapped them.
• 1:19:52
  Unknown: Yeah. Well, they were gonna trap them no matter what. It's
• 1:19:55
  almost impossible to know whether the guys were good or bad.
• 1:19:58
  Unknown: They were good. They
• 1:20:00
  Unknown: were good guys. You
• 1:20:03
  see,
• 1:20:04
  was in the mobilization of gold and metals behind it is quite interesting
• 1:20:08
  because it is a thing obviously of physically existing substance.
• 1:20:13
  My main issue really with the sort of the cryptocurrency thing is nothing to do with the benefits you've talked about. I understand obviously what they are.
• 1:20:20
  It's to do with the the same old problem that exists on any so called man made system of exchange.
• 1:20:27
  Who's the referee?
• 1:20:29
  This is the problem. It's always been the problem, and it will remain the problem. And one of the
• 1:20:36
  there's there's there's many aspects, obviously, to all of this kind of stuff. But
• 1:20:40
  I remember the guy that I was working with in the nineties, he was talking to me. He said they're gonna have an onslaught on cash. They want the removal of old cash. He said they they don't care. They wanna do it as quickly as possible, but they don't want you to have any cash.
• 1:20:52
  And,
• 1:20:53
  of course, we now have
• 1:20:55
  TV programs embedded with these cheery presenters advocating the cashless society. I'm not for it at all.
• 1:21:02
  I think it should be a completely cash ridden society. In fact, you see
• 1:21:06
  Unknown: Universal income. Listen. I'm gonna let you talk for a second because I gotta go see a man about the whore a horse here. So I'm gonna let you talk. Alright. Okay. Carry bounce the ball for a little bit.
• 1:21:16
  Unknown: Alright. Okay.
• 1:21:17
  So that that'll be half an hour, will it?
• 1:21:22
  No. So what was I saying? Oh, now we're all together and Roger's left as everyone.
• 1:21:28
  What was I banging on about just then?
• 1:21:30
  Yeah. This thing about
• 1:21:32
  the removal of
• 1:21:34
  the removal of cash from society
• 1:21:37
  and why would you want to do that, and why would it be a good thing? Well,
• 1:21:42
  the news stations and the the talking head presenters are slowly embedding their presentations with more cozy, jovial references to why this is such a jolly good thing. We all ought to get stuck into it, but I don't think it is a jolly good thing. And I think that the
• 1:21:59
  the benefits of cryptocurrency
• 1:22:01
  as they're presented appear to exist. Okay. They appear to exist, but
• 1:22:06
  my and, course, if Roger's not hearing this, he won't be able to rebut it later, which is what I was hoping to do, but never mind.
• 1:22:12
  The the situation has to do with the
• 1:22:16
  ability to transact anything.
• 1:22:19
  It's the transacting of stuff
• 1:22:22
  that's the issue.
• 1:22:23
  We could use feathers for money if everybody was 100% trustworthy and honorable and decent about the feathers market.
• 1:22:31
  It's not what we use for money, although biblically
• 1:22:34
  we have been told that gold and silver are the monies that we should be using,
• 1:22:39
  And there's a very good reason for that if you go back through, obviously, historically through the technologies available of the day
• 1:22:45
  and the fact that these metals in particular are highly durable within the Earth's atmosphere.
• 1:22:52
  They're for very pragmatic reasons.
• 1:22:54
  They're highly durable. In fact, it may be their durability,
• 1:22:56
  which is part of the perceived beauty of them
• 1:23:00
  that they behave unlike other metals. There is a way of actually destroying gold. I forgot what it is now, but you can come up with a chemical process. It's quite elaborate
• 1:23:08
  to chew gold up and wear it down to nothing if you if you wanna do that kind of stuff.
• 1:23:13
  But historically, of course, its value has been based on what was then a highly
• 1:23:19
  useful object. Its utility as Roger has said a little bit earlier with
• 1:23:23
  Unknown: with regards to the modern way we would phrase it. You're back. Yeah. I had to I had to go see a man about a horse there. It's got money has got a several different,
• 1:23:32
  aspects. It's it's durable.
• 1:23:34
  It's divisible.
• 1:23:35
  It's,
• 1:23:36
  I can't, fungible.
• 1:23:40
  There's about six or seven of em there that qualifies something as money.
• 1:23:44
  They do.
• 1:23:45
  It's the decentralized
• 1:23:47
  aspects of the crypt of the cryptos particularly
• 1:23:50
  and the coins altogether in the peer to peer ability to use em without
• 1:23:55
  be using banks or having government supervision. That's what really
• 1:23:59
  of course appeals to us here and I think it's going to I think it scares the absolute pea waddling out of them justifiably.
• 1:24:06
  So, they got every reason to be scared to death, all these people, okay?
• 1:24:10
  So
• 1:24:11
  Unknown: we I think it's I think it's a matter of well, I I don't disagree with what you're saying, Roger, but I I think that there are other really some very, very basic things that are in the mix
• 1:24:21
  that are not gonna go away. And it doesn't matter what technology is brought up for these things. Don't get me wrong, I'm for decentralized
• 1:24:27
  currencies. I'm for a decentralized Internet, first and foremost.
• 1:24:31
  But it's the ability how do you affect and stop people transacting?
• 1:24:35
  Well, we know. We know what's going to first of all, we can't transact in law. We were talking about the courts over in Germany. You can't transact truth in those courts. They've stopped that.
• 1:24:46
  They they say it's not admissible.
• 1:24:48
  So this is very similar to the money thing. If you've got what is nominally said a sum of money in your account, and it's not your account, as you well know lawfully, it's the banks, right? They just let you stick your name on it for whatever reason and believe that it's yours, but all those sort of trinkets aside,
• 1:25:05
  you have money in your account, and they suddenly decide you cannot transact it. You can't move it from where it is to the person who is due the receipt. You can't settle a bill with it.
• 1:25:18
  You've gotten got any money.
• 1:25:20
  You've got the illusion of it, you haven't got any purchasing power. It doesn't matter what it is that's in there, if you can't transact it with the other person,
• 1:25:30
  you haven't got anything.
• 1:25:31
  So
• 1:25:32
  in the court system, we haven't got any truth,
• 1:25:36
  not in there. We know we actually have it as an absolute thing,
• 1:25:41
  but in the court environment, you haven't gotten it because they won't allow you to transact it in the communication space. You can't say that. Shut up. You will be taken away, etcetera, etcetera.
• 1:25:52
  And how would they stop all this?
• 1:25:55
  They would stop it you see, the easiest way to actually hammer someone on the Internet
• 1:26:00
  is you just get their ISP to cut them off.
• 1:26:05
  Sometimes the complexity,
• 1:26:07
  I think, causes us to lose sight of the simplicity of how we can be bombarded. Now that's the negative way of expressing it, but it has to be borne in mind. That's what would happen.
• 1:26:16
  We've unplugged you from the Internet, and we're not allowing you to purchase a service with any Internet service provider and you can't have a mobile phone with Wreck It. Now what do you do? And
• 1:26:26
  that horrifically is what's beginning to happen in China. They've got this little social network value point system or something, and if you go around, you've probably seen it, know, and you're a good citizen,
• 1:26:38
  then all your transactional systems will work. But the minute you start to be a bit naughty,
• 1:26:42
  right, they're gonna cut it off. So the issue is who's in charge of the transactional systems? Well, we we know who actually is in in actuality.
• 1:26:50
  How do we get them out of the way? How do we how do we have a regulatory thing? The pressure, I think, at the moment is a pragmatic one on these people, why they can't go so fast. They're reliant upon it too, this Internet system,
• 1:27:01
  for the transactions of money. So they as they are trying to chew us up, they want us to continue to pay for our own demise. Of course. Always. Always. Always.
• 1:27:11
  Right?
• 1:27:12
  So within it, we've got this kind of strange, slightly surreal Mexican standoff situation whereby
• 1:27:19
  we're all continuing to use a system which abuses us, and we know how it abuses us, and yet that is preferable to actually having no system at all. I accept that. It is in today's environment. You can't get by not being able to transact.
• 1:27:32
  But there's there are brutal measures available to them, and I always thought that that's what they brought to bear on eGold.
• 1:27:38
  They felt that they weren't gonna be able to deal with that in a way that they liked.
• 1:27:41
  So stories are manufactured.
• 1:27:43
  I was completely unaware of how that would be done, but basically
• 1:27:47
  they just embed their own people in any organization
• 1:27:50
  and then they get those people to behave unlawfully and bring the whole reputation into disrepute. It's very easy to I don't
• 1:27:57
  Unknown: don't know that I remember the story exactly, but these guys got the idea and started it. It was legitimate.
• 1:28:04
  They went through and there was at that point because it was so totally new, there was no regulations for it. And so, they went into the regulatory board and they said, well, that we don't have, you don't have to have a license or anything. There are no regulations
• 1:28:18
  and so they went back and started doing doing what they were doing and then, they came back
• 1:28:24
  and they passed regulations
• 1:28:27
  and when these guys, something had happened in between and they came back and applied for the license so they wouldn't give em the license.
• 1:28:35
  So, that's how they showed, that's how that happened in a kind of a backdoor deal. There was a lot, there were some other events in the middle. I just don't remember from reading it but I read it here fairly recently, couple of months ago and because I didn't know the history of it, you know, but that's what they did to them and of course, with this, they're,
• 1:28:52
  oh, they don't have any regulatory teeth on anybody
• 1:28:56
  unless you're a citizen
• 1:28:57
  or resident under the fourteenth amendment.
• 1:29:01
  If you're one of those people and presumed to be one and have not overdone the presumption,
• 1:29:06
  then, those regulations apply to you. If you file some sort of paperwork, maybe even a common law birth certificate in the future with the Secretary of State,
• 1:29:17
  that presumption no longer stands and none of those regulations apply to you. Now, listen, this is interesting.
• 1:29:24
  I was having a this conversation last night with the fellow that was trying to help me with this Skype situation.
• 1:29:31
  Very. Yep. Very generously contacted.
• 1:29:34
  We I'd never heard from him before. First time caller. He said, give give me your Email. I'll send you a thing. We'll hook up and I'll see if I can help you. I've been in tech stuff for years.
• 1:29:44
  You may, he may be talking to you too, Paul. As a matter of fact, from a discussion we had but that's a side conversation.
• 1:29:51
  So, he's in there and he had approached this a different way through someone else's approach here a while back
• 1:29:58
  and because he done a lot of work with the military and stuff,
• 1:30:02
  he had some high level connections and
• 1:30:05
  they were able to go back supposedly
• 1:30:08
  and check his file and
• 1:30:11
  he read me what they'd sent him and it said, below courier status,
• 1:30:16
  do not detain.
• 1:30:18
  They had some of this kind of short and curt nomenclature
• 1:30:23
  in there that he says was sent to him by this contact
• 1:30:27
  and
• 1:30:28
  everything he said was, well, the reason why is because that form of system of law government doesn't apply to you anymore.
• 1:30:35
  It was like diplomatic immunity. Well, you were a state citizen.
• 1:30:39
  You basically had diplomatic immunity.
• 1:30:43
  Okay? Yes.
• 1:30:44
  And so, below courier status, and he gave me some definition of courier status. Basically, do not detain but that was what was in the the back of his
• 1:30:55
  deepest files there supposedly from the state department. Now, ain't that interesting? Now, we do know
• 1:31:01
  from our students that have done this, people that have done it in the past and I had, well, DJ, I'll tell you who this is. It's DJ. You know DJ. She's our health gal. She's gone through a nice, pleasant, positive move here lately if you didn't know. If she hadn't told you. So, I'm expecting her situation to get much better here quickly.
• 1:31:21
  Regardless,
• 1:31:22
  years ago, when we first met, she wanted to file affidavit
• 1:31:27
  and so, I I assisted her through that and
• 1:31:30
  it was when they were in a particular crunch time,
• 1:31:34
  I guess, for whatever reason when she applied
• 1:31:37
  and so it didn't come in, you know, forty eight hours or whatever. Most of our people get antsy
• 1:31:43
  and when the thing didn't call, she called me and I said, well, I don't know. Why don't you call the state department? So, you can go to the state department's website,
• 1:31:51
  Foggy. I don't think it's foggybottom.com.
• 1:31:53
  It ought to be though.
• 1:31:56
  You can go to Foggy Bottom's website
• 1:31:59
  and there's an 800 number there and she did that and called a nice lady and they had a good conversation and the lady said, well, you can check your
• 1:32:07
  passport progress
• 1:32:09
  online.
• 1:32:11
  Oh, really? Well, how do I do that? Well, here's how you do it. Boom. What she did and she took screen snips of it for me and sent it to me and it said, your passport and identifying
• 1:32:23
  documents and affidavit or whatever
• 1:32:26
  and citizenship
• 1:32:28
  evidence. It didn't say affidavit. It said, citizenship
• 1:32:32
  evidence
• 1:32:33
  will be sent back to you under separate cover and then there were some other paragraphs and one other time in that paragraph, it used the exact phrase,
• 1:32:42
  citizenship
• 1:32:44
  evidence.
• 1:32:45
  Now,
• 1:32:45
  they don't use those words without knowing what those things mean and they don't mean some mystery,
• 1:32:52
  mystery like non resident alien in the background of the state department. They know exactly what that stuff is and they wouldn't have stated it that way if that isn't what it is.
• 1:33:05
  Unknown: Yeah. Okay?
• 1:33:07
  Unknown: So. Yeah. We've got em. Alright. It's just
• 1:33:11
  getting our game together and
• 1:33:15
  doing having our base and our platform solid which I think we've been able to do to a large extent in little over a year now with all the limitations
• 1:33:24
  that we have had and have on an ongoing basis, okay?
• 1:33:28
  And quite frankly, I'm real pleased. I see a volatile year.
• 1:33:32
  I see things moving in the direction that we want them to go in because it's the masses are going to move into
• 1:33:40
  distress or discontent
• 1:33:42
  and when people get in those situations, they start asking questions and they want answers
• 1:33:48
  and that's what we've got. So, my feeling Paul is we continue to do the best we can with whatever
• 1:33:54
  assets we can bring to the fire here on our side
• 1:33:58
  and just keep every day doing the same thing consistently
• 1:34:03
  and let
• 1:34:04
  me see if I can phrase it another way.
• 1:34:07
  Instead of trying to push it ourselves,
• 1:34:10
  let's get prepared,
• 1:34:12
  do what we're supposed to be doing, and let the big guy handle which doors get open when.
• 1:34:18
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:34:20
  Yeah. No. I
• 1:34:22
  I'm all I'm all for what's going on. You can't stop it anyway.
• 1:34:27
  I just
• 1:34:28
  I remember the I remember the days of cash, and maybe people don't remember them so well now. Young people, possibly not familiar with this at all.
• 1:34:36
  So I remember getting paid in cash. Maybe you did. You probably did. You know? You actually got an envelope stuffed with fivers and tens or whatever it was. And the whole maneuverability of cache is something that they've never liked at all because it enable that really does enable you to freely service bills and do things as you see fit.
• 1:34:55
  Of course, I think there was even thinking of microchipping
• 1:34:58
  notes so they could track them. You know, maybe they've already done that. I don't really know because chips don't
• 1:35:03
  cost very much. But it's this need and requirement of them to monitor and control all things that is
• 1:35:10
  Unknown: the distasteful and tiresome part of the whole thing. I saw a video the other night from your place
• 1:35:16
  of the company that's manufacturing and installing those chips in people. They put them right in between their thumb and their forefinger
• 1:35:24
  in that loose skin right there and one of the ways they're starting it is with corporations.
• 1:35:30
  When you get inside, you gotta have all these cards to put your card or your number to go from one side to the other. All that's being done with chips now and the guy,
• 1:35:40
  very nice, distinguished English gentleman there with the company
• 1:35:45
  was telling us that we
• 1:35:47
  got standing room lines to get this thing.
• 1:35:52
  Unknown: Right.
• 1:35:54
  Right.
• 1:35:57
  Unknown: So, showed a picture of it, all that stuff. I said, well, I don't think I have a need for one of those particularly.
• 1:36:06
  So, it's out there and the lemmings are, you know, headed to the cliff but that's their choice. They want to be lemmings. They want to go to the cliff. Let them follow the pied piper.
• 1:36:18
  Unknown: Yeah. It's it's a complicated thing,
• 1:36:20
  really. And I noticed
• 1:36:23
  I noticed with most people, whenever you start talking about the money issue or the banking system,
• 1:36:28
  the
• 1:36:29
  the threshold for paying attention to the topic is very very low. Yep. It's it's and I understand why it's it's got an awful lot of kind of tedium
• 1:36:40
  about it, it becomes boring, and I actually think that this experience of boredom around it is a result of the spell but being very effective that's being cast over us. Pavlovian
• 1:36:50
  conditioning again. Yeah. This is how magic really works. It's not some big zappy pawy thing. What it is the way it works is people become dysfunctional in the face of truth. They can't actually they just slope off and
• 1:37:03
  it's very difficult for people to get to grips with it. I suppose to some degree as well we've all got a kind of childlike or have had a childlike relationship with money. We wanted to buy stuff that we want that's gonna make us happy. Now we also needed to buy stuff that's gonna enable us to live next week, you know, like food and class and power and stuff like that. That comes into it as you're an adult and grow up, and you have to sort of be the person responsible for making sure that those bits work for you and your family.
• 1:37:29
  But, of course, we start off with money, don't we, as a sort of trinket reward system. Oh, if I get this, I can have that sports car or whatever, you know, if if you're so fortunate enough to have things as the like that. So there is a kind of sort of
• 1:37:42
  I need my toys type thing. This is my toy budget to keep on getting my toys. And this is also part, I guess, of this sort of
• 1:37:49
  the culture that we're in and the infantilization
• 1:37:51
  of people and this lack of
• 1:37:54
  strength in people to be able to discern exactly what's going on. That said, I do think it's I'm not completely negative. I think it's improving in all sorts of ways
• 1:38:02
  simply because of the sheer availability of stuff.
• 1:38:05
  But, like,
• 1:38:08
  the the problem we have, are we ever gonna get around this adage that, you know, if if someone can create a human's secure system, somebody else can unpick it. This is always the issue. And even though they say, oh, it can't. It's gonna take all this, that, and the other, I tend to think that that principle is likely to remain true for
• 1:38:28
  you know, they say, well, you'd need all these computers to do that. So I say, well, how do you know they haven't got them? What about I mean, when quantum computing arrives and it's imminent. Yep. Right? Many of the encryption keys are destroyed in milliseconds.
• 1:38:40
  I mean, we're talking an exponential
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  increase, a ridiculous
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  increase in calculating power because these computers,
• 1:38:47
  they don't operate with a a plus and a minus like current computers.
• 1:38:52
  They are both the switch is both on and off at the same time. Now I can't explain to you what that means, but what we are told is we are talking about an increase in computing power that's off the charts,
• 1:39:04
  and they're pretty powerful things as it is right now. Everybody's mobile phone has apparently got more computing power than was sitting in the Apollo missions that supposedly went to the moon. That's another discussion. That that missions those missions, the power of computing in those missions were that of an old calculator that you used to buy back in the sixties and seventies.
• 1:39:24
  Yeah. So so what happens then
• 1:39:27
  if everybody's got a quantum computer in their house? Where do we go with this ability to stop calculating
• 1:39:33
  things?
• 1:39:34
  I find you know, when I was saying earlier about being a Luddite,
• 1:39:38
  it's not the exact word. I'm not against all technology, and, you know, I can't put it back in the bag. No one can do that.
• 1:39:46
  But it's as if what's actually we we're now very much in a situation where the tail's wagging the dog. Everybody's
• 1:39:52
  driven sort of to
• 1:39:55
  heights of delirium about new technical breakthroughs. I'm going, well, okay. Is this really what you want for a happy life? I mean, is this actually improving things? Is this what we really need? I mean, look. It can't be stopped,
• 1:40:07
  but it's gonna really be thought through. The whole idea I mean, the the basis of flooding Europe and North America with migrants,
• 1:40:15
  All of it completely unnecessary and unwanted and and unworkable and only there, you know, to bring back the ruckus that we're now seeing develop. That was the whole purpose of it in the first it was. But one of the one of the arguments that they've used, they'll have used it over there, is, oh, we need these people to do these
• 1:40:30
  low paid unskilled jobs that white people don't wanna do. I I used to go, what were you talking about? They'll do them, you know, and if they don't get done, so what? You know? Now,
• 1:40:41
  what about robots?
• 1:40:43
  We got robots coming along. Even the Chinese the Chinese who've got more manpower than you can shake a stick at, they're beginning to look at robots. What's gonna so I'm not against this stuff. You go Well what's the end goal here? Five people living on the planet served by battalions over Given given That's what the bad guys have got. Given giving
• 1:41:02
  Unknown: being given universal income.
• 1:41:06
  Unknown: Yeah.
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  Yeah.
• 1:41:08
  Unknown: If you know But if unless you unless you disbehave on your social score,
• 1:41:14
  and then your
• 1:41:16
  universal income is either decreased
• 1:41:18
  or
• 1:41:19
  diminished or cut off. Period.
• 1:41:24
  Unknown: I mean,
• 1:41:25
  yeah, it's the end of consumerism.
• 1:41:27
  Consumerism
• 1:41:28
  ends, it seems to me, at the point that you can produce infinite amounts of stuff.
• 1:41:33
  Unknown: It's not the other way around. And see, there's there's no more capitalism because for most people, there's not a lot of opportunity out there. Now you're just on the dole all the time, and now they achieve their full control of communist from the means of production to the ends of distribution.
• 1:41:50
  Unknown: It's quite these are quite massive questions that we're facing because, obviously, the entire drive of us here down here has been, hey. It's very cold. I need to design fire. Got that. Right. It's raining, and we better get some houses built. There's a whole all of this infrastructure work that's taking place, particularly, of course, since the industrial revolution was required. We were driven to do it. Well, to improve our life. What it is is open free markets where those who have the innovation are rewarded.
• 1:42:15
  Unknown: They don't want that. They want everything and you don't have no innovation cause you're nothing but a piece of property, ours property, by the way.
• 1:42:25
  Unknown: Yeah. I mean, I you're absolutely right. I mean, that's that's the game as it's being played up to this point.
• 1:42:31
  And I think the impact of all this colossal information processing power
• 1:42:37
  keeps changing. The the impacts that we're feeling are evolving all the time into spaces that we couldn't you couldn't envisage without it being there. In other words, the the
• 1:42:48
  the capitalist
• 1:42:49
  game
• 1:42:50
  Unknown: is up because it's been won. Well, it was won How much more stuff do people need? Was How much more stuff do you need? The the the broad statement is they won that game back when they switched from hard money over to currency, debt based. They won that game when that happened. It's just been playing out ever since but now,
• 1:43:13
  we're on the verge of of another major step but fortunately,
• 1:43:17
  they weren't expecting the decentralized
• 1:43:20
  things, I don't believe or
• 1:43:23
  if they are, they've realized that there's not a there's
• 1:43:26
  they've got certain limitations in controlling them where they don't with the other stuff. So, I think we're still ahead. I'm really encouraged. I see very bright years for us in the next few years coming up as because it for what it seems like to me, Paul is this, you put yourself in a position where
• 1:43:46
  the dialectic supply
• 1:43:48
  and that is the worse it gets on that side, the better you get on your side because there's a transference. There's never a dissolution.
• 1:43:59
  Unknown: Yep.
• 1:44:00
  Okay. I'm just thinking how people's lives would be,
• 1:44:03
  could be,
• 1:44:05
  it sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? If most of the issues were sorted out, you will never get them all sorted out. No. Never. But when you put when you put down a shopping list of stuff, let's just talk physical stuff,
• 1:44:17
  the capacity to provide people with physical stuff
• 1:44:21
  is
• 1:44:22
  that ability is going through the roof. We've got
• 1:44:25
  The technologies that are coming along because of information processing
• 1:44:29
  are gonna could easily change everything. They change it to such a degree that the idea of there being
• 1:44:36
  a shortage of something
• 1:44:38
  is gonna disappear from our dictionary.
• 1:44:40
  I mean, I don't want to get carried away, but it could. You could have armies of microscopically
• 1:44:46
  cheap and microscopically small nanobots
• 1:44:49
  cleaning your house, cleaning everything. Scary
• 1:44:52
  stuff, know, it's this small scale stuff. You've got food that could be just basically molecularly
• 1:44:57
  constructed out of some sort of doohickey in your kitchen. You throw rubbish in and go, oh, you want some tomatoes? We know what the molecular structure of a tomato is. Let's have some. Right? Now this is just words out of my mouth, but these were words out of people's mouths about cars and things. They all happened, and they're happening right now. They are happening.
• 1:45:15
  So when the robots come, obviously, we don't need any more migrants. Now what? In other words, we we keep the challenge has been very much understandably
• 1:45:23
  our physical preservation and improvement for such a long time.
• 1:45:27
  We've been built around that. You know, mean, a thousand years ago, you and I would be out shooting all our own food and stuff. We would have had to do that, and people did do that.
• 1:45:36
  Now we don't do those sorts of things. So
• 1:45:39
  we're moving into a realm really of more
• 1:45:41
  spiritual and philosophical considerations,
• 1:45:43
  or we need to quickly
• 1:45:45
  to keep up with this so that people because we get down to that sort of question that children ask. What's the meaning of life and all that? Well, yeah, we've got you don't have to you have to go and get a job. Do I? Really? No. Actually, you might not need to do that. And yet, the inner compulsion to work
• 1:46:00
  has to be fed. It does if you're a man. Mean, I can't even envisage life without doing it. To produce something.
• 1:46:06
  Unknown: Mhmm.
• 1:46:07
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:46:08
  Unknown: The, you know, Brent has the has the overriding thing. You know, he's so good at breaking things down.
• 1:46:15
  Men want to be respected and women want to be loved.
• 1:46:18
  Okay?
• 1:46:19
  And a man to have self respect
• 1:46:22
  has to be doing something productive,
• 1:46:25
  okay? Now, they get back into some very interesting scientific
• 1:46:29
  research.
• 1:46:31
  The highest people with
• 1:46:33
  suicide
• 1:46:34
  rates are professionals.
• 1:46:36
  People especially like lawyers and stuff.
• 1:46:39
  Where the lowest rates of suicide
• 1:46:42
  are people that produce something with their hands.
• 1:46:48
  Unknown: Yeah. There are what I'm I'm not saying it's a bleak picture. I'm saying it could be a very positive picture. A return to Yep.
• 1:46:57
  Simpler ways of living, which have much more
• 1:47:00
  Unknown: Satisfaction. There's
• 1:47:02
  just Well, there's much more going on. Yes. It gives
• 1:47:05
  a wholesomeness to life instead of a
• 1:47:09
  high-tech falsity to life. All the backlash of all the social media on kids, and putting cellphones in kids when they're very young in their hands and all the things that are coming back that are so negative on that. Paul, I'm kind of distressed
• 1:47:24
  because I can't get anybody to cooperate with us on trying to call in. I don't know whether they're. Many people don't like you anymore. Well, Mitch might be, you know, they don't like your accent or they don't like what we're talking about or they don't like either one of us or any of that kind of stuff but I I would like to see if I could get a hand extended and see if somebody can help us figure this software out. Was my hurdle to get over because then I'll know a little bit more before I have to tackle it tomorrow.
• 1:47:53
  Unknown: I see. Oh, I see. So you got eleven minutes. You'd like someone to call. Well, I was Maybe I was hoping. Trying.
• 1:47:58
  I was hoping. They're all desperately trying.
• 1:48:01
  And just can't do it. If this carries on, you will have to, of course, rename the show. You'll have to call it Billy Nomates. No. I don't. I'm all Billy Nomates. I've got a I've kinda got a new handle that I really like,
• 1:48:13
  Unknown: actually, along those lines. Roger. Bates. The the the modern day abolitionist
• 1:48:20
  of all ethnic races.
• 1:48:26
  Unknown: It was a bit of a mouthful, you know. Well, now that Daryl sent me a. If you want to go for it. I
• 1:48:31
  Unknown: believe it was Tubman,
• 1:48:33
  Harriet Tubman. Was that the gal's name that
• 1:48:36
  he sent me that this quote the other night? I believe it was her and she said and I've seen the quote before. She said, I freed a thousand slaves
• 1:48:46
  and I could've freed thousands more
• 1:48:48
  if they only knew they were slaves.
• 1:48:53
  Now,
• 1:48:53
  here comes Jim Ram. Now, hold on. Now, it says it's going to put, it's going to put the other one on hold, Jim. So, why don't you hang up and I'll call you through this ad to the to the call thing. That's how evidently how I've gotta do it
• 1:49:10
  and
• 1:49:11
  because it didn't give me that other or is mister Ram? There he is. Now, I can add him this way and I bet he comes right in.
• 1:49:21
  Jumbo, are you there?
• 1:49:24
  Are you still trying to call me?
• 1:49:27
  Let's see if he comes on.
• 1:49:31
  Well, I'm trying to add him again.
• 1:49:34
  Oh boy, I just love Microsoft.
• 1:49:38
  Let's see. There's mister Ram. Let's get him up and then I have the option of adding him to the call.
• 1:49:45
  Let's see if I can get him this time. There you go. There I am. Hey, man. Your call just came through and I just answered it and here I am. Well, I guess that's the way we're going to have to do it is have people call in.
• 1:49:57
  I don't know whether I can just take a blank call or not because I have to add you in through this end at this point
• 1:50:05
  and. She just loves Skype. And then I gotta have your, yeah, I gotta have your profile in my list to add in.
• 1:50:12
  So, at this point, I can't take a cold call. Now, it may be that we've got three people on here and somebody can cold call in and get added and these are the things I'm trying to press the envelope on and learn right now. Yes, I just love screen, by the way, my screen says, three of four in the call. Hi, Jim, by the way. Hey, Paul. Good to see you, man. Happy New Year. Jim, you're onto a good thing here. What you need to do now is every day, call in at the end, and you can steal ten minutes of Roger's show. Okay. And here's Patrick. He can't do anything. He's he's completely and utterly. Here here's Patrick. Here's Patrick calling in and it says, I'm going to put you guys on hold to answer him. So, what I'm going to do is turn around and call Patrick back. I'm going to hang up there
• 1:50:55
  and I'm going to see if I can add him to this call.
• 1:50:59
  Unknown: Okay. Yeah. Anybody that's new should show up as a previous caller and you should be able to just even though you haven't put them into your call list. Okay. They should show up and.
• 1:51:09
  Unknown: Let's see if he pops in here. I think it's calling him.
• 1:51:13
  Patrick in Memphis. Boy,
• 1:51:16
  this is this. Hello. Yeah, there's Patrick. Yeah. Hello. Oh, I can bring you in this way.
• 1:51:23
  Unknown: You gotta build you an administrator is what you gotta do. Okay.
• 1:51:28
  You got to build you a list here by they call into it and fix them up. Best I could tell when I was talking to
• 1:51:34
  Lee.
• 1:51:38
  Unknown: Hold on. We lost you there, Patrick.
• 1:51:42
  Well, and then there's people calling in on phone with cellphone connection problem. Hang on. Hang on. I got I cranked
• 1:51:49
  Unknown: up my truck and it takes my phone from me. Okay. Oh.
• 1:51:53
  Unknown: Trouble, man. I love Bluetooth.
• 1:51:56
  Unknown: Yeah. Then it won't let me talk through the radio like it's supposed to, and I guarantee you one of my teenage kids would tell me, you dummy, do this.
• 1:52:03
  Right. It's, you know, Greek to me.
• 1:52:06
  But, yeah, best I can tell in that bible study, you got administrator, and he's got all these people's phone numbers in it. And
• 1:52:12
  he calls and hooks them up or they can call in and pick them up. So, you gotta build you an administrator
• 1:52:18
  Unknown: front I guess where you know, everybody calls in and they can they can go play the game with you. Alright. Well, it takes away from what my visions of the program are and how I like to format it and our effectiveness just gotta work through another step. We'll figure out how to get somebody's new call in and get it in the registry somehow. An administrator's
• 1:52:38
  file.
• 1:52:39
  Okay. Well, thanks, Patrick. Got anything else to add? We've just been kinda chewing the fat here and covering different topics.
• 1:52:47
  Unknown: I had to run down and take care of one of our money machines. It was goofing up, jammed up. Somebody put a credit card in the cash slot.
• 1:52:55
  I had to go into and deal with it, but, I'm back down the country, and, I'm gonna,
• 1:53:02
  I'm gonna go buy, I'm gonna go buy Best Buy and speak to the geeks at Geek Squad. Yeah. And get them to go over it with me and then I'll throw my 2¢ in with you after they educate you when the sun falls. Okay. Well, that'd be good, man. I'm going to be around, okay? We sure appreciate you.
• 1:53:17
  Unknown: Ten four. Alright, brother. How about? On the sidelines. Go ahead. Okay. You talk about the technological
• 1:53:22
  challenges there, Paul. They put a credit card in the cash lot.
• 1:53:28
  Unknown: Yep.
• 1:53:29
  There's no there's no accounting for these sorts of things. You know, it's a bit like what's that old there's that old customer services call at Dell, wasn't it? Where the guy basically
• 1:53:38
  told the guy,
• 1:53:40
  you must have seen the transcript. It's a sort of customer service call the guy's having all these problems.
• 1:53:45
  And the end
• 1:53:46
  result is that the guy at the service desk says, take the computer, put it in the box, take it outside, and leave it in the yard. You're too stupid to use a computer.
• 1:53:57
  Unknown: That's really I know a lot of people like that.
• 1:54:00
  Unknown: Yeah. I mean, it's just you you know, things that you take for granted, like, well, you turn it on, you go, well, how do I turn it on? I'm going, what? There's things at really low level stuff you go well
• 1:54:08
  you just said oh I can't I don't want this conversation I don't want this sort of conversation in my life go away you know so I bet Roger I bet to solve your problem seriously after
• 1:54:19
  this so that so you don't have to do this sort of
• 1:54:24
  explanation every day and so that Jim can't muscle in on the interview show every day. You wanna probably head on head on over to YouTube and do some searches. I bet you there'll be some instructional videos there saying, how do I now set up a conference call on the new Skype? There'll be some guys covering it. Seriously, but it's gotta be covered if you give a new sort of fiddly process. I guess I'm gonna have to resort to something like that. I've got a tech guy that's supposedly looking out of work but I guess I'll have to do that. I'm trying to get the WiFi snafu straightened out. I just sent them some pictures. I'm in dialogue with them. There's some more of your nice English
• 1:54:57
  Unknown: fellow Englishman over there. Jim Ram, you got anything special on your show today? I never do promote you enough.
• 1:55:04
  Unknown: We're going to be going back to the basics and talking about how I'm
• 1:55:09
  going to be doing the story of Carmela
• 1:55:11
  and it starts out how she starts out by going to her doctor for one little thing,
• 1:55:16
  and in no time at all, he's loaded up with drugs and stuff and just basically kills her. It's gonna be an interesting steal. I've done it before, but it's been a while. So I'm we're gonna start fresh with the New Year on that kind of thing. Okay. So It's one of those stories that Sounds like a cheery story. Doesn't have a happy ending. It doesn't have a real happy ending. Stories, but no better than go to an MD.
• 1:55:39
  Unknown: Well I gotta sign off so I can write for my show. Okay, buddy. You guys. Thanks for all again. Happy New Year, Jimmy. Your trousers on, Jim. There's nothing worse than a naked radio presenter. It's terrible. So know, that's why I don't do video.
• 1:55:52
  Smart man. About that. That's good. Amen. I got a face in the body for radio. We'll
• 1:55:58
  Unknown: see you, Jimbo. Thanks a bunch, buddy. Bye now. Alright, let's see. Now, do I cut him off here? I actually can remove him. It's very difficult to add him. It seems to be very very easy to remove him, Paul. Okay. We're going to I just when talking about the common law birth certificate earlier, I just been, I think it's a project that we need to as much as possible focus on this year because I think there's some big answers for us here.
• 1:56:25
  Unknown: Yeah, well it may well be, if it's going to be effective as well, just as a brief, I see we've only got a minute left or so, I was just going to say the process needs to be simple and it might not be something that necessarily requires,
• 1:56:36
  in fact I'm hoping it doesn't require some great big exposition about it because that reduces the number of people that take care of you just wanna it's gotta be boiled down concise simple it's almost like you want a two minute radio ad ready go can we say it in two minutes yeah good yep then we've really got something because we need to repeat it a lot we need to get across. Do this. It don't cost any money. Get one of these. The rebuttal. Sit tight. The rebuttal. The rebuttal of presumption for the masses.
• 1:57:01
  Unknown: That's what I think it is. We'll see.
• 1:57:03
  Listen, we'll be back tomorrow and see if we can figure out Skype a little more and maybe I can go look at administrators
• 1:57:09
  and all that kind of stuff. Paula, I appreciate you take the time to be with us. Good conversation today. Happy New Year
• 1:57:16
  and we'll be having Paul on Wednesdays from here on out and so, you have a nice day,
• 1:57:21
  Amigo or mate. You too, sir. And are always enjoy it. Thank you very much. Audience, we'll be back tomorrow on Thursday live. We're going to try and figure this thing out yet. See you then. Have
• 1:57:34
  a good day.
• 1:57:40
  Jim Ram is
• 1:57:41
  next.
• 1:58:28
  Unknown: Blasting the Voice of Freedom Worldwide,
• 1:58:31
  you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
• 1:58:35
  Unknown: Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.