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HOW SUGE KNIGHT, J PRINCE, CHRIS AND IRV GOTTI ALMOST CHANGED MUSIC FOREVER-MP3 · Earn Your Leisure

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  Speaker 1: We got to talk about Jay Prince. He put this
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  Speaker 1: in his book. So this is public knowledge. He put
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  Speaker 1: this in his book. So shout out to Houston. My
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  Speaker 1: man Don Key, if you're listening, that's my guy. We
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  Speaker 1: connected on Instagram. Drifted up in Drake style. We got
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  Speaker 1: to go to Houston.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to get Jay Prince on this thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fact. That's a fact.
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  Speaker 2: You heard it here. Prince, we need you, man. You
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  Speaker 2: heard it here.
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  Speaker 3: That's a fact.
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  Speaker 1: Shout out to H-Town, man. So Jay Prince told the story.
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  Speaker 1: about how he met you in his book, right? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Can you tell that story?
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  Speaker 2: He loved me to tell that story, too. Whenever we're
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  Speaker 2: around new people, Chris, come on, tell them how we met. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it wasn't on good terms. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: his legend and his name and reputation precedes him. So
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  Speaker 2: when I had found out Irv calls me and says
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  Speaker 2: seven days was signed to J Prince. That's one of
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  Speaker 2: your producers at the time. Yeah, he was one of
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  Speaker 2: our main producers and made a lot of hit records,
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  Speaker 2: made a lot of money, and J Prince was basically
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  Speaker 2: claiming all the money he made and generated because Seven
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  Speaker 2: said that's his money. So if he signed to J Prince...
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  Speaker 2: He's like, collect that money, and then we'll do whatever
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  Speaker 2: my deal says I get, I'll take from there. So
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  Speaker 2: Jay reaches out, and Irv tells me, you know, you
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  Speaker 2: got to go to Houston and deal with Jay Prince.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, great. You know, great. Thanks. Thanks, brother.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks, Irv.
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  Speaker 2: Good looking. Good looking. But, you know, I'm a doger,
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  Speaker 2: so at the end of the day, no problem. At
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  Speaker 2: the time, Preen was home.
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  Speaker 3: Supreme to Supreme.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to Supreme. Hold your head, brother. At
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day, Supreme is home, and he
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  Speaker 2: was at Beaumont, Texas, going to see his nephew, Prince.
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  Speaker 2: And he was coming from there.
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  Speaker 3: That's the federal penitentiary, right?
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  Speaker 2: Federal penitentiary out there. And he calls me and tells,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I call him and tell him I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to Houston. Meet me in Houston. He says, no problem.
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  Speaker 2: Then I call one of my other brothers out there
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  Speaker 2: in Houston, Black. We call him B-1. So I called B-1.
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  Speaker 2: B-1's about that life. So I was like, yo, I'm
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  Speaker 2: coming to Houston. I got a problem out there. He said,
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  Speaker 2: whatever you need, I got you. So I get out there.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, what's happening? He comes, picks me and free
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  Speaker 2: him up. And he's like, what's happening? I said, man,
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  Speaker 2: who's this J Prince guy? I got a problem. He said, oh, man,
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  Speaker 2: I can't do nothing. He's like, that's the big homie.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, I can't help you. So, you know, keep
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  Speaker 2: it moving. Everyone told me don't go to his ranch.
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  Speaker 2: Jay says, he calls me up while I'm in Houston
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  Speaker 2: and says, hey, come meet me at my ranch.
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  Speaker 3: He has a ranch.
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  Speaker 2: He has a ranch. He's a real cowboy. He's a
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  Speaker 2: country boy, man. You know, he's the biggest provider of hay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he said that.
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  Speaker 2: Black Angus beef.
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  Speaker 3: In his book.
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  Speaker 2: Nah, people don't know. He's a mogul. He's a real mogul,
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  Speaker 2: but he's the biggest real estate owner in Houston. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's someone you should talk to. He bought his whole hood.
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  Speaker 2: Fifth Ward is his. Jay Prince, you know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, they tell me,
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  Speaker 2: I got to go to this ranch to meet him.
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  Speaker 2: I said, all right. So he sends two cars, two SUVs.
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  Speaker 2: For Jay, it was all presentation. See, I know this
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  Speaker 2: in hindsight now that I'm with, that's my brother. But
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  Speaker 2: in the beginning, I'm thinking this is some bullshit. Like
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  Speaker 2: he sends two cars, two people in one, four in another,
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  Speaker 2: and me and Prem in black. Black's like, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to come with you in case something goes. I'll try
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  Speaker 2: and defuse it and stop it. So I was like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, bet. So we drive. Again, I just want
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  Speaker 2: to give the listeners and the viewers the vision. When
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  Speaker 2: you get to this part, we drove for about an
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  Speaker 2: hour from where we was at. Then we get to
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  Speaker 2: this one part and it says James Prince Estates. And
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  Speaker 2: we see it's like a billboard. And we say, okay,
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  Speaker 2: make the right turn. And we drove another 20 minutes.
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  Speaker 3: From the gate.
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  Speaker 2: From that corner to get to the middle of the gate.
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  Speaker 2: That's how far, how much land he has.
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  Speaker 1: Good.
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  Speaker 2: And then two more SUVs come down like this path,
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  Speaker 2: like dirt path. You see the cloud of smoke. Me
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  Speaker 2: and Prem is looking at each other like, yo, it
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  Speaker 2: was nice knowing you. No, we was like, yo, it
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  Speaker 2: was nice knowing you, yo. But we going to take
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  Speaker 2: some booze with us. We ain't going out alone, man.
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  Speaker 2: They come four more, and each of those SUVs, we
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  Speaker 2: go up to the ranch. And when we walk in
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  Speaker 2: the ranch, it was like the yard. It was like
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  Speaker 2: you're in Rikers Island in the yard or somewhere. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it was about 60, 70 dudes all over the house.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, what the? Me and Preem was looking
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  Speaker 2: at each other like, yo, they're going to kill us.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm getting frustrated because... He didn't come right out. Like,
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  Speaker 2: you know we're here. Where you at? And again, we're
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  Speaker 2: only 15 minutes in, maybe 20 minutes the most. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm getting frustrated. And I'm like, yo, where's Jay? Who's
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  Speaker 2: Jay Prince? I don't even know what he looks like. Like,
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  Speaker 2: at that time, I didn't even know what the man
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  Speaker 2: looks like. You hear his name and the legend of him.
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking it's going to be this 6'4, like, dude
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  Speaker 2: come out. And then this little dude comes out from
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  Speaker 2: the back and says, hey, which one of y'all Chris?
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  Speaker 2: And I said, that's me. He said, yeah, come on,
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  Speaker 2: let's go talk. I'm Jay. In my head, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: this is what this is all about. This nigga right here. Yo,
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  Speaker 2: Jay love it when I tell it, but it's real.
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  Speaker 2: I promise you, it's real. Now, again, I just kept
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  Speaker 2: my composure, but I'm feeling the pressure of the room
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  Speaker 2: and all the dudes and just the environment. Then when
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  Speaker 2: I'm walking to the back with him, You see all
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  Speaker 2: the stuffed animals. Not like the ones you want from
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  Speaker 2: the fucking carnival. No, real fucking animals that's stuffed and everything.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, so you see he's a hunter. He's
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  Speaker 2: been hunting. Yeah, he's a hunter. And then all the
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  Speaker 2: heads is on the wall. And then you go to
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  Speaker 2: his desk. And right behind his desk is all the
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  Speaker 2: assault rifles. And I'm like, oh, man, this is crazy.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? And then he wants to
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  Speaker 2: talk about $ 28 million that's owed to Seven, and he
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  Speaker 2: wants all of that because Seven told him that's all
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  Speaker 2: his money, to which I said, not a chance. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the more I know Jay, the more I
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  Speaker 2: understand the move, because the move was really he's going
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  Speaker 2: by what Seven told him, but he's a man of
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  Speaker 2: his word. So if you say something to him, he's
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  Speaker 2: going to make you honor your word. So when I
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  Speaker 2: told him that's not it, I'm like, nah, he can't
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  Speaker 2: get all of that. We gave him half. Irv has
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  Speaker 2: the other half. It's the producer. And that's it. I said,
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't know Jay-Z. He doesn't know J-Lo, Mariah Carey,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Mary J. Blige. We do. And I said,
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  Speaker 2: that's my money. That's basically what I told you. I said,
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  Speaker 2: I don't care what the fuck Sev told you. That's
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  Speaker 2: our money. He said, okay. And that was really the
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  Speaker 2: end of the meeting. Again, and then we went on
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  Speaker 2: after that, became really good friends, and things happened that
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  Speaker 2: made us get really close. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: But it was a great way, like his, and I
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  Speaker 2: told him his image precedes him. So I told him
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  Speaker 2: the more he talks or the less he talks, the bigger,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that legend grows. So I always tell him, watch,
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  Speaker 2: don't get in too much limelight. You know, he put
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  Speaker 2: the book out. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. and
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  Speaker 2: the book did great and he it looked like he
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  Speaker 2: was a president if you followed him on the ground
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  Speaker 2: because he was in so many places the campaign he
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  Speaker 2: went on was legendary like i was like who's your
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  Speaker 2: pr guy in the middle of it he uh gets
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  Speaker 2: he got involved with the drake and push the t
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  Speaker 2: thing it was like this is all happening he squashed
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  Speaker 2: it like no drake's not gonna respond they gave me
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  Speaker 2: his word he's not responding.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah and we were like They said Drake had to track.
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  Speaker 2: He said if he would have ever released it.
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  Speaker 3: He said you can't do that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we can't. He crossed too many lines. You know,
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  Speaker 2: there's only a few people. He's one of the biggest
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  Speaker 2: people I ever met.
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  Speaker 3: You say, like strongest.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, strongest dude I ever met. I give it to
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  Speaker 2: Jay Prince. And Preem is a monster, but he's not
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  Speaker 2: as strong as Jay in that sense. He wasn't as strong. BMF,
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  Speaker 2: like I know T, I know Meech. They wasn't as
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  Speaker 2: strong as Jay Prince, in my opinion. And it's just,
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  Speaker 2: it's crazy. Like when I seen, like how he has his,
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  Speaker 2: not city, that whole state of, you know, he has it.
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  Speaker 3: The Kitakashi, when they, when he was in Austin. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he was like, yo, they, he was like, yo, they.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I tried to fix that with Shadi. Hold your head, Shadi.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? I tried to fix that
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  Speaker 2: with Shadi, man. He said you keep campaigning, eventually you're
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  Speaker 2: going to get elected.
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  Speaker 3: That was a hard one.
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  Speaker 2: I used that all the time. That was a hard one.
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  Speaker 2: That's real. You keep campaigning, you're bound to get elected.
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  Speaker 2: That's a statement. I use that line now. I told
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  Speaker 2: him I'm taking it, so he can't get pub on it.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so, but he said in the book, all right, so,
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  Speaker 1: you you meet them and then y'all become good good
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  Speaker 1: yes and then so y'all have an idea to to
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  Speaker 1: have a black owned distribution company for for records with
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  Speaker 1: you guys jay prince rap a lot and shook night
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  Speaker 1: yes y'all gonna come together east coast down south and
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  Speaker 1: that's a that's a crazy trio but um and he
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  Speaker 1: said in the book he was like right when y'all
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  Speaker 1: was about to get this off the ground and run
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  Speaker 1: it everybody just started catching fake cases and all that.
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  Speaker 3: So then that leads to your fake case.
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  Speaker 2: Coincidence? I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: So what, that distribution channel that you guys were going
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  Speaker 1: to start?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we wanted to be a major distribution company just
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  Speaker 2: like a universal and we was going to cut deals
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  Speaker 2: with all of the outlets. You know, I give Suga
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the credit. Suga's a super smart man, man.
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  Speaker 2: People don't understand him from his business acclimate.
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  Speaker 3: Is he a good dude?
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  Speaker 2: Suga's a predator. Good dude for me, yes. Shug, hold
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  Speaker 2: your head. Good dude for me, yes. But we had
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  Speaker 2: our ups and downs too. But predators, one thing they
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  Speaker 2: respect is that. If you stand your ground, they respect that.
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  Speaker 2: If you don't, if you show up... the weakness, they're
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  Speaker 2: going to take what you got. They're going to eat
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  Speaker 2: your food. And I learned that early from my day.
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  Speaker 2: When I had to deal with Jay, I understood I
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  Speaker 2: couldn't show that. And just like with Suge, I couldn't
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  Speaker 2: show it. But it all turned, you know, for us,
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  Speaker 2: those are all great relationships. Probably the reason why they said,
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  Speaker 2: all right, we can work with them. So it was
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  Speaker 2: Suge's idea? Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: It was Suge's idea for this?
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  Speaker 2: Suge was putting it together. And Jay, again, is a
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  Speaker 2: super brilliant man. I'm not shading him at all because
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  Speaker 2: he is a genius in his own right from a
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  Speaker 2: business acumen also. He's very methodical. He's a chess... Like,
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  Speaker 2: everyone moves differently. You see how they move. He's a
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  Speaker 2: chess player. He doesn't speak much, you know. And Irv
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  Speaker 2: is vision, creative, you know, on business. And that's where
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  Speaker 2: we was coming together. And when Suge was saying the plays,
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  Speaker 2: we envisioned it and seen that it could really work.
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  Speaker 2: And we was like, wow, this is amazing. And then
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, this indictment, that indictment... And like
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  Speaker 2: I said, I don't think that was coincidental. I thought
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  Speaker 2: the feds really wanted to learn about the hip-hop culture
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  Speaker 2: and what better way to go at it than, oh,
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  Speaker 2: these three are getting together. Let's try and chase someone
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  Speaker 2: down and shake this tree and see what comes out.
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  Speaker 2: Sam Cooke actually was trying to do something like that.
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  Speaker 2: Sam Cooke, that's right. And then they think he's the
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  Speaker 2: reason he got killed. Right, like he was seriously gets
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: killed by some random woman. You know, I hate conspiracy theories, but.
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  Speaker 2: Some of them are real. It's hard to deny certain
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  Speaker 2: things is what I'm saying. I hate it because I
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  Speaker 2: like proof, right? I like to know facts. I don't
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  Speaker 2: like to talk on speculation. I like to know what's
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  Speaker 2: really real. And that's what I mean. But there's so
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: many factors. Even when you talk about, let's say, like
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  Speaker 2: holistic doctors and then all of a sudden all these
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  Speaker 2: random doctors that got killed or disappeared. Dr.
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  Speaker 3: Sebi.
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  Speaker 2: Dr. Sebi. There has to be some type of connection
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  Speaker 2: that correlates to these deaths. So it's like, so yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it is a conspiracy theory, but there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: facts too. And you lived it.
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  Speaker 3: So, all right.
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  Speaker 1: So you guys caught the Fed case. So the Feds,
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  Speaker 1: if anybody's not familiar.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how we caught a Fed case, but
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  Speaker 2: you know, that's another story.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The Feds, the conviction rate is 97%. You don't beat
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  Speaker 1: the Feds. It's almost impossible to beat the Feds. because
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  Speaker 1: they put so much pressure on you, they stretch the
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  Speaker 1: cases out for so long where you almost got to
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  Speaker 1: cop out. That's why the conviction rate is so high
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  Speaker 1: because most people just cop out. And usually your money
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  Speaker 1: runs dry.
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  Speaker 3: So you guys had the peak of your dominance.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: You caught a federal indictment. What was that?
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to hit you with the Rick Ross.
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  Speaker 3: So they tied it in with Money Laundry and Supreme?
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  Speaker 3: That's what they did?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it was a lot more charges. It
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  Speaker 2: got dwindled down due to great attorneys and the right thing.
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  Speaker 2: Even the money laundering case was stupid. We was charged
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  Speaker 2: with a million dollars in money laundering. Just use your
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: own common sense from there. A million dollars in money
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  Speaker 2: laundering sounds like a lot, but at that moment we're
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  Speaker 2: paying tens of millions of dollars in taxes. We're paying
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  Speaker 2: eight figures in taxes. I was gambling over a million
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  Speaker 2: dollars a week. but I'm laundering a million dollars. It
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  Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense, right? Just common sense. If I'm
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  Speaker 2: laundering the money, I'm trying to turn it clean, right?
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  Speaker 2: Why would I be gambling a million plus dollars?
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  Speaker 3: You're gambling a million dollars a week?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they got it. It's all documented.