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IT CAME FROM SCREAMBOX! The Relic · WASD and Beyond

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We're we're This is Noah's pick this week.
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That's not right. But before we start, were you
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But this week is Noah's week. Noah, what did you pick, dude?
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So this week I picked a short called The Relic.
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This is a short from 2020. There's a movie from 95 called
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The Relic that when when doing a little bit of research, it
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seemed like there was a little bit of confusion.
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Some people were talking about the movie, some people were
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talking about this short, but it was.
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It's directed by JM Logan, who has a it came from a career in
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special effects makeup and production.
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And that is sort of a precursor to what we're going to what
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we'll see in the shorts. So before we really get into it,
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I highly recommend, as with everything we talked about, that
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you go and watch it, come back and then experience us talking
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about it and you'll have seen it and it's, it's 15 minutes and it
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was really fun to watch. I'd I watched a couple of like
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shorts in the past. It's always interesting to see
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what creatives do when they're given a time constraint, cause
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one of the things we talked about is when Lego Movie goes on
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for too long, that's a big problem they have.
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And then in something like this, you only have maybe 10 or 15
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minutes. So we, we go ahead and get into
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it. So we got a group of explorers,
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treasure hunter types who are looking for some kind of ancient
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relic. And when we meet them, they've
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come back to the little cabin that they're based out of, and
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they have clearly found something.
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And something has clearly gone wrong.
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One of the characters, Kayla, has been separated from the
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group, and they found a injured man in the forest and they
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brought him back and he's incoherent, he's babbling, he's
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clearly injured. They're trying to figure out
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what's going on. Some of the people in the group
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are like, oh, you know, they're doing the we shouldn't have done
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this man. This is this is bad.
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You had like, yeah, this is bad. They're clearly they've awoken
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something and we never we don't necessarily see exactly what it
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is they found, but we do get a little nod to it for the big
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reveal at the end. But we'll we'll talk about that
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when we get to it. So they they find Kayla.
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She makes her way back to the cabin and her face is all
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injured. It's all ripped up.
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I thought. I thought her eyes were like
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gouged out. That's what I thought for the
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longest time until like that like camera pan where she's do
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she's crawling. I'm like, oh, OK, like I cause
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like the makeup would have you think that like her eyes, like
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the lids were like pulled over. Yeah.
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Really great effects throughout the whole thing.
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All the stuff on all the stuff on the people is all practical.
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It's all prosthetic, it's all makeup.
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And that's where you get, you can really see Logan's career
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prior to this, his skills on full display.
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I don't know if he necessarily did the makeup, but he
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definitely had a hand in that. It's very a Lovecraftian where
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it's like there's an ancient relic that might bring on some
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sort of evil and it's like mystery and they don't know what
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did it and they don't know what's out there and what could
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be going on. So eventually when Kayla comes
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in and she's like, they're like, who did this to you?
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Who hurt you? And she said, and she points to
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the guy and she's like, he did this to me.
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You have to kill him. And there's just chaos.
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And then one of the guys hits him over the head with a, with a
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fire extinguisher. Crazy.
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Yeah. And then we get another really
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good effect, like a real prosthetic with the other guy,
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just like notices something shiny inside the the man's skull
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and they start like digging around a little bit.
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Dude like this short had no business having the effects it
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had because I want to talk about for the story further, but I do
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want to start talking about what we thought right like.
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Yeah. The acting was good.
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My problem with it was I don't know if they wanted to be funny
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at times or serious. And by that I mean a lot of the
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characters had the quirky like thing going on and like you know
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like it's just a lot of like the tropes turned up to 11 type
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thing. But it was good.
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This was a good short, especially the effects,
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especially the practical effects here, because it's practical
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effects. It's in your face.
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It is gory. It is like visceral.
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Like the scene that Noah's talking about is this guy gets
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hit in the head with a fucking fire extinguisher and there's an
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actual dent in the skull and it cracks the skin.
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And then the our our one of our main characters digs their
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finger in. But that's not all they do.
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They're digging. No, they're like, and they're
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pushing skin and it looks, it doesn't look cheap that I was
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like, oh, wow, that looks really fucking good.
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Like everything about that I was like, oh, this is gross.
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Like for me to go that was nasty.
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That's a lot. I was like, this is really good
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like that. Yeah.
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Those effects were awesome. And you know, we love around
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here, we love a practical effect.
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Yes, we love a, we love a prosthetic.
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We love a fake head. And this one, like I knew it
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like when they started like poking at it, I was like, oh,
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that's a good effect. And then he starts like fully,
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like you said, he's fully digging around in there.
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I was like, oh shit. They're like, they're really
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going all in on this. Well, it made me like go, OK, is
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that like a fake head or is that like the actor and they like
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added like an extension? Yeah, that's what I was
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wondering. So it was cool for me to second
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guess that, like, OK, is that a fake actor head?
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Is that an extension to the actual head?
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Like what is this? It was a good effect and like
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the brain inside and like the skull and like the key.
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I guess I gave that away. But like the thing?
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He's got a key in his head. He's got a key in his fucking
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head. My bad.
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But even that, we don't know what that does.
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So like, that was really fucking neat.
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Like those effects were cool. The I think where the ball was
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dropped again was, was this because it was serious?
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But some of the acting would lead into a comedic like relief
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effect. That's where I was like, come
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on, like we've got to drop like the Artie Bucco because the one
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guy looks like Artie Bucco from fucking The Sopranos.
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I don't remember which one that is.
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The the guy who owns the restaurant.
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Oh, is he the guy who kills the stripper?
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No, no, that's Ralph Siforetto. Artie Artie is the one who owns
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the restaurant where Tony burns the restaurant down and he's
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like, why would you? Do that.
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I did it for you, like all that shit.
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So he looked like. Art for you?
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I did this for you, but like what he was doing in this was he
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was the comedic relief the entire time.
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He's like, please don't. There was a really good scene
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where he was like for a minute I was like watching and it was
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this moment of I've seen this movie before, like in real life,
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you've we've all been scared right?
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Where you've like been with your friends, like we're going to do
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this thing. And it's like, oh, I don't want
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to do that thing. And you go anyways, you like,
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man, I've seen this movie before, though, where it's like,
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we're doing this thing from this movie and we're going to die
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right in your head. And like he's looking at this
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door and he's like staring at the knob.
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And I'm like, just don't say anything.
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And he goes, please don't turn, please don't turn.
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I'm like. Yeah, it's it's for a second.
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He knows that he's in a movie. Yeah, and you're sitting there
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like, ah, man, if you just didn't, if you were just like
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staring at the knob, like I could, I would know that's what
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you're thinking. Like, oh, dude, if I looked at
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that, I'd be like, don't fucking turn.
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And it turns. I'm like, fuck.
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And I'd run. But he says it out loud.
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There's a lot of those moments where like, hold that in, like
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don't do that. But I.
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Like, aside from that, you know. The premise is sweet.
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I love, love, love finding like I love the we found a relic.
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We found this. We have awoken a power that we
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do not understand. I love that shit so fucking much
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and it's like just a couple things marred it, but then at
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the end of this it's like. Then they bring it right back.
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You're like, oh dude, no, I'm here for this.
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There's a SO Kayla kind of scampers off she goes and she
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gets the mysterious relic and it turns out to be a mask.
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And when she comes back with the mask, her face like melts off
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and she transforms into this slimy like tentacled winged
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creature that was a very. Expensive thing they had to
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have. It's crazy.
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That must have cost a pretty penny.
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I think that was all probably CG, but it was really good.
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That's the only thing I should mention.
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The camera work in this is really good.
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It well the cabin itself I was like oh wow, that's the first
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thing I said I was like wow this is really good camera work bro
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short that's the first thing I said, but like no this this it
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looked like a puppet Noah. You think so?
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It looked like a puppet. No, we'd have, we'd have to,
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we'd have to do a bit of research.
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But do you like the? Slime.
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Yeah, it could have been practical.
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I don't know. I mean it, I feel like it could
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go either way. I feel like it might be because
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this again, because this guy is I.
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Think he was a practical? Effects kind of guy.
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Could be. We'll have to do a little bit of
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research into that, but I did find what that creature is
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supposed to be. No shit.
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So what is that? So the like, like we said, like
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the Lovecraftian inspirations are are definitely clear.
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So that is supposed to be a God called Oh my God, I'm going to
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butcher this so hard. But here we go, Neurolothep.
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Neurolothep. Yeah, Neurolothep, Is that how
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you say that? Have you heard of this?
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I I've read what, what what pantheon is it from?
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OK, all right, here we go. OK, so it's a shape shifting God
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of chaos. This is saying that fans of a
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game called The Call of Cthulhu, Yeah, Yeah, you might.
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You may. Oh, near a lothup.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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So it's a shape shifting God that takes a humanoid form and
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hides behind various masks. Yeah.
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So I guess they the mask is where like the God is and it
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just takes over whatever. I mean, she didn't really put
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the mask on, but in a way she did put the mask on.
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She was holding it when all of that happened.
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I mean the power was in the mask at that point I would think no.
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Yeah, I think it it's, it's like the Jim Carrey mask where you
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put it on and then you become the mask.
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Can we, can we, can we get like more of that movie?
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More of the mask or more of this?
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Both because the relic was. What have that crossover
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crossover the mask on the road. Now you want to.
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Put on the mask. How about, OK, how about Jim
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Carrey takes the mask off and he puts it down and it's dark and
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then he's got like a a lineup of masks and he accidentally puts
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on the neurolothe? And then his like body just
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melts. Off and then it just turns into
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that. Oh, that, that would, that would
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be, I would, I would watch that in a heartbeat.
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I'd watch that. Neurolothe.
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Mr. Logan, get on. That neurolothe.
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Well, it had a, it had like an Egyptian.
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It was a little bit of text at the beginning and it and it was
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like talking about the Pharaohs and whatnot.
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So I think it. Could be like.
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Supposedly an Egyptian relic, but for some reason it is a
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snowy climate. Definite Lovecraft.
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Yeah. Like that's I but also near a
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lothep. We're going to say that has been
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seen as like just a figure, like a man figure, like like almost
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like the Gray man, like the tall Gray.
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So like that's cool as fuck. Like dude, that's I love that
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mask bit dude, because like the mask itself, well, for me it
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looked almost not Aztec. Yeah, I could see that.
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But like I'd. Love.
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It's not what I would have expected like an Egyptian mask
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to look. Like, I liked how I was trying
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to hold it in front of its thing 'cause this was very Akira at
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the end. It becomes body horror.
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Yeah, I mean, but like, even like in the beginning when the
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guy throws up all over himself, I'm like, oh, that bubble was
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good. It was a huge throw, like vomit
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bubble. And just like, pops.
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I was like, that was good. But like, no, dude, this was a
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great short. This was a very good short.
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I think that the story itself, honestly the story and the
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fucking practical effects really made it made me go, no this is
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great, I love this. I mean, it's very, it's very
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like the whole thing of a short is you want to just say a little
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bit, but most of it is like set up for a payoff that kind of
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never comes. In this case, you do kind of get
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it like when at the end it like pans out and there's like there
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it's insinuating that they all die in the cabin and then
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there's this green meteor shooting across the sky and like
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that ends all life in the universe, something like that.
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And it's very much it is very much that like unexplainable
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force. You get this like mysterious God
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figure and just some just some really, really solid effects.
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Really solid bit of story for what is 15 minutes of of movie.
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Well, for it being 15 minutes, I was like, damn, this thing's
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feels like a movie, like an actual thing.
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I was like, damn, OK, I've been sitting here for a minute.
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Yeah. I love when something can make
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me feel like that. I love when I'm like, I'm like
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that locked in. I'm like, oh, wow, this is
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sweet. So Nah.
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Dude, this was awesome. This is a great pic.
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I would love to actually see more of this.
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I would love to see, like, what happens.
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I'd. Love to see more of JM Logan's
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work. It looks like he's got he's got
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couple of shorts going back. To the box.
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Like, I don't know if they're on screen box, but this guy's, he's
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has a career that looks like it goes back to about 2002,
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starting with something called Terror Tunes.
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He's got something in. He's got some other stuff.
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It's like a Charlie Manson style movie or short a little horror
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comedy stuff. Yeah, I'm definitely interested
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in looking at this guy, and I hope some of you out there would
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be too. Well, this was this.
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Was incredible. Well if anybody from the relic
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sees this, we've had really crazy luck just posting
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episodes. Yeah.
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So if anyone from the relic sees this, if you want to talk about
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what this was exactly, hit us up, hop on the show.
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We would love to talk to you about this because this was
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really cool. This was really fucking cool.
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I liked it. Yeah, it was really sweet.
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Hello. You know, it's like I said,
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like, like I said earlier, like a short, it's really interesting
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because it's, you know, you're very limited, so you really have
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to pick and choose what you're going to do.
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And you know, like there's no time to draw anything out.
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There's barely any time for any exposition.
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There's like no time to explain stuff.
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It's just you're seeing things and then they're gone.
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There's just, there's nothing. There's no time to really dwell
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on things. So I think that.
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Really lends itself also to this unexplainable creature because
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first of all, like you couldn't explain it even if you had the
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time, and we don't have the time and it feels very real like to
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the characters. Well, yeah, like the God, It's
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so fucking sweet. It was sweet.
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That was cool. I love, I loved that.
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Yeah, I love that. It was.
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It was awesome. I've always wanted to make a
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short. Connor was talking to me about
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that for a while there, about making one should do.
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I had AI, had an idea. I didn't know about in college
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for one of my one of our classes that you do right at the end
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when you're before you graduate is a practical applications one.
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And one of the projects was to run a 48 hour film challenge.
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And like that was a lot of work, but it was it was really fun to
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see what people were able to do. Definitely looks like something
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that'd be fun to participate in. You know what I want I what I
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always wanted to make was this nightmare I've had since I was a
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kid. I've had a nightmare since I've
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since I was a kid about a rug. It sounds weird.
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Listen though, So when? I was on that word.
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I actually you keep going, but yeah.
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OK so when I was a kid I had a nightmare that I've had up until
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this day. I've always had this nightmare
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where I wake up and I think I'm actually awake, but I'm in the
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dream still. And what happens is I'll look
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around the room, I'll see something in the far end and
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I'll get up out of my bed and walk out.
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And there was used to be this rug in the center of my room
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when I was a kid, a circular rug.
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I would always step on it in the dream.
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And when I'd step on it, the like the stitching on the rug's
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eyes would just pop and would stare, look at me.
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And the stitching, as soon as I hit the center would go and I
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would fall into the rug and it would I want.
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I've always thought that would be a cool story to do.
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That would be. Like because like when the like
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in the dream, I just go through and when I go through and land
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on this like just nothing. Just like an infinite void.
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It's a well you I when I land, it's just like I land.
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I wake up. That's kind of interesting
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because I I had, it wasn't necessarily reoccurring, but I
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remember a vivid nightmare I had as a kid where I was running.
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We were, I was in like just a group of like random people in
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this like big scooby-doo ass house.
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And there was just like an old lady who had to run around.
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She would like throw her hand out in a big carpet roll would
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go up and when it would like land on people, they would
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disappear. And then I remember, like, I
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came around the corner and she threw the rug up and it went
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over my head. And then I woke up and I was
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like, that was like, probably the scariest.
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Thing. Something about something about
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a rug. A.
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Rug, dude, we should do the rug, but Connor wants to do it.
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I'm dude, let's run it. I have to run at my grandma's
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house. We could be.
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We could be the next JM Logan. Dude, I have the rug at my
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grandma's house. It's that rug.
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I know exactly which rug it is that would scare me.
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It's. Could you do you think you could
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be brave for the shoot? What we do I.
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Could I think we would have to get Landon to do it?
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That could work. And hop out of the bed.
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That's the whole thing. We should.
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We should do something cool though.
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Scream it came from screen box turns into like a whole fucking.
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We're making short films now because of the Relic if.
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Anything was going to like inspire you to make stuff and
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we've talked about that before with stuff like cocaine crabs.
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If anything's going to inspire you to make something that's
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ultimately that's great. Like that's that's what you
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want, right? You should do it like people
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should follow and do what they want to do, right?
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Like we're just two dudes talking on a show, but this
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takes work too. Like to do the show.
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Like we don't have to do this, right?
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Like we do it cuz like, hey, let's do this, this fuck.
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We love watching movies, we love watching shorts, We love getting
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inspired and we love to talk about things positive or
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negative. Like even in the negatives,
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we're always like, yeah, this may have sucked.
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This did not. But in between the suck, there
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was a lot of cool shit. Yeah.
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That's the important thing. No, this was awesome.
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The relic was sweet, and I think we should do the rug.
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That's that's our. Rug.
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We're going to call it that. We're going to call it the rug.
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Oh, beans Cam, baby, we got beans Cam.
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He's sneaking in instead of Penny interrupting.
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We got beans tonight. Oh my God, yeah, we should do
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the rug. We should do the rug.
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All right, so we want to wrap it up.
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You want to wrap up this little short episode?
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The short episode that turned into a full length screen box.
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No great, great pick. Noah.
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The Relic was awesome. I give this, I'll give it 3.5.
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There was the acting. It was really the acting.
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It was really the not knowing they want to be funny comic.
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Too much Comic Relief when I think a lot of more seriousness
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would have better suited this had there been that seriousness
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and urgency to the actors, which again, they did look like
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they're having a great time. That's good and all, but there
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was just that that disconnect for me where I was like, man, if
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you just would have been a bit more serious here, I think I
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could have really, this would have really hit health for me.
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Yeah, definitely. I'll probably give it a four out
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of five. That effect was those effects
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were just so, so impressive. They were too good for what it.
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Was. And if that was all practical,
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that's even more impressive. Yes, absolutely.
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So no great pic. I love this.
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We we're going to have to do weigh more of these short, these
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short like stories and actually make the episode short.
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With that being said, enough talk about me and Noah's
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nightmares that we've had as children.
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