Latest / The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated / Iran updates, Tommy Vietor's lies, and Senator Kelly's statements on classified material
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- 0:20Speaker 1: joined my rear Admiral Mark Montgomery, retired United States Navy Admiral. Welcome.
- 0:25Speaker 1: He's senior Fellow for the Foundation for the Defensive Democracy.
- 0:28Speaker 1: Before I go to my questions, admam, what do you
- 0:30Speaker 1: make of the exchange between the Iranians and the United
- 0:33Speaker 1: States over the weekend President Trump's gaggle in the White
- 0:36Speaker 1: House today?
- 0:39Speaker 2: You know, I think that the United States is putting
- 0:42Speaker 2: real pressure on Iran. You know, we've got this blockade
- 0:46Speaker 2: is real. It's stopping eighteen to twenty billion dollars a
- 0:51Speaker 2: month worth of exports, you know, probably ninety nine exports
- 0:56Speaker 2: at the Rodians know it. They're very scared about the
- 1:00Speaker 2: idea that we would open up the rest of the
- 1:02Speaker 2: Gulf to others to transit through through a secure access
- 1:07Speaker 2: and as a result, they're striking out. And President Trump
- 1:10Speaker 2: did this exactly right. He said, look, they didn't hit
- 1:13Speaker 2: the first time, we let it go. The second time
- 1:16Speaker 2: when they were firing at the we did a proportionate
- 1:19Speaker 2: response against the weapons that fired at US.
- 1:22Speaker 3: I think if it happens again, we might be disproportionate.
- 1:26Speaker 2: You know, you only put up with this so many
- 1:29Speaker 2: times before you go disproportionate and escalate. But he's trying
- 1:32Speaker 2: to keep escalation management in his hands right now, and
- 1:36Speaker 2: that's why he did only a proportional response.
- 1:38Speaker 1: I have two questions. First of all, Operation Freedom escort
- 1:43Speaker 1: duty for getting the ships trapped and wrap some ships
- 1:47Speaker 1: in to fill and get them out. Do you see
- 1:49Speaker 1: that returning.
- 1:53Speaker 3: I do? I think you know we're three reasons.
- 1:57Speaker 2: One, as part of negotiations, we have to say this
- 2:01Speaker 2: is one hundred percent UH. International law says you cannot
- 2:05Speaker 2: limit transit passage in international waterways, and we, as a
- 2:08Speaker 2: country that has enforced this for either eighty or two
- 2:11Speaker 2: undred and fifty years, depending how you look at, our
- 2:13Speaker 2: navy have enforced this traditional maritime law. Second, Iran can't
- 2:19Speaker 2: be perceived as controlling the state the Strait of Hormuz
- 2:23Speaker 2: at the end.
- 2:23Speaker 3: Of the negotiations.
- 2:26Speaker 4: It needs to be you try to block people for
- 2:33Speaker 4: I think we're breaking, you're unable to succeed. And then third,
- 2:38Speaker 4: it's helping out partners.
- 2:41Speaker 1: With economically all right, now, Admiral I did some research
- 2:45Speaker 1: after Senator Kelly said we're running low on munitions, and
- 2:49Speaker 1: I know we might be, and maybe we're not. But
- 2:52Speaker 1: one thing we're not running low on is torpedoes because
- 2:55Speaker 1: we've only used two since World War Two in hostile actions.
- 2:59Speaker 1: I looked up World War Two. We sank five hundred
- 3:02Speaker 1: and twenty nine oil tankers in World War Two. Now
- 3:05Speaker 1: one hundred and five of them were empty, but four
- 3:08Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five tankers full of oil went to
- 3:10Speaker 1: the bottom of the seam. We didn't worry about the
- 3:12Speaker 1: environmental damage. Can we just sink their ghost fleet? If
- 3:16Speaker 1: push comes to shove, I think we lost them.
- 3:20Speaker 3: Yes, I'd rather take it.
- 3:23Speaker 1: You're back. I heard you say we'd I heard you
- 3:27Speaker 1: say we'd rather.
- 3:29Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we'd rather take them hostage as I
- 3:33Speaker 2: mean take them as seize them and then put prize
- 3:37Speaker 2: crews on board and return them to ports and then
- 3:40Speaker 2: make decisions about how we deal with the with the
- 3:44Speaker 2: cargo on board and the value of the ship. I
- 3:47Speaker 2: don't think seeking them is necessary. We are strong enough
- 3:51Speaker 2: and big enough and powerful enough of military. We have
- 3:53Speaker 2: the right types of ships ESBs, amphib ships, the right
- 3:57Speaker 2: types of visit boarding, search and seizure teams to go
- 4:00Speaker 2: around and grab these wherever we need to in the
- 4:03Speaker 2: Indian Ocean around their North Arabian Sea, So no.
- 4:06Speaker 3: Need to sink them.
- 4:07Speaker 2: Look, on occasion, ones will sink when we're trying to
- 4:10Speaker 2: disable them.
- 4:11Speaker 3: But from my point of view, we're doing the right thing.
- 4:14Speaker 1: If a ship gets past the blockade that is not
- 4:20Speaker 1: capturable but is sinkable, would you let it go or
- 4:23Speaker 1: would you think it I'd sink it, Okay, And I'll.
- 4:28Speaker 3: Make that if you need a longer answer, it's the right.
- 4:31Speaker 3: That's what a blockade is.
- 4:32Speaker 2: A blockade says you're going to be held accountable for
- 4:35Speaker 2: trying to penetrate my blockade and run it. And boy
- 4:39Speaker 2: talk about you know, shooting one, you know, shooting one
- 4:43Speaker 2: of the monkeys or the other.
- 4:44Speaker 1: Get the message, Well, tell me about what you think
- 4:48Speaker 1: the rules are engagement for the boarding crews sinking a
- 4:51Speaker 1: ship and of course I'm assuming we would give notice
- 4:54Speaker 1: to the crew to get off of the ship and
- 4:56Speaker 1: then we would pick up survivors. But is our crew
- 5:00Speaker 1: in any danger from whoever is running an Iranian tanker
- 5:04Speaker 1: with the IRGC put suicide vests on a boat.
- 5:11Speaker 2: Potentially, you know, you hit right on the thing that
- 5:13Speaker 2: worries me the most, which is a.
- 5:17Speaker 3: Not the whole crew.
- 5:18Speaker 2: Most of the crew aren't even Iranian, and they certainly
- 5:21Speaker 2: aren't committed, right They're trying to make money, trying to
- 5:25Speaker 2: you know, keep their families safe.
- 5:28Speaker 3: But you could easily get a you know, the I ergency.
- 5:32Speaker 2: You could place a crewman on board with malicious intent
- 5:37Speaker 2: to attempt to approach you know, American forces and either
- 5:41Speaker 2: shoot at them.
- 5:42Speaker 5: Or detonate something.
- 5:43Speaker 2: I'm not sure about a detonating vest if that's going
- 5:46Speaker 2: to be their technique. I think they're more trying to
- 5:48Speaker 2: shoot and kill. But in any case, our teams have
- 5:52Speaker 2: to go down assuming.
- 5:53Speaker 3: The highest level of risk. And we've assessed the ship.
- 5:55Speaker 2: You know, we're watching the ship, We're looking at the
- 5:57Speaker 2: images of everyone on board. We're being very careful. You know,
- 6:02Speaker 2: you can see it right here in the video. You're
- 6:03Speaker 2: running so we're doing this. So from my perspective, you know,
- 6:08Speaker 2: you take you minimize the risk to force the risk
- 6:11Speaker 2: of the people and ensure you get the mission accomplished.
- 6:15Speaker 3: And I'm not worried.
- 6:15Speaker 2: We have real professionals, whether there Special Operating Forces, Marines
- 6:20Speaker 2: or Coast guardsmen we have, or even naval personnel. We
- 6:23Speaker 2: have a lot of people who are experienced at this
- 6:25Speaker 2: done scores of them, if not hundreds, particularly the Coastguard,
- 6:29Speaker 2: and are and can handle any kind of risk situation.
- 6:33Speaker 1: So you've studied this regime for a long time. My
- 6:36Speaker 1: friend Mark Levin posted on after the Iranians rejected whatever
- 6:41Speaker 1: President Trump proposed, They're National Security Council spokesperson came out
- 6:45Speaker 1: and said the only option for America is a surrender
- 6:47Speaker 1: and market the revenue. Said, this is a death cult.
- 6:50Speaker 1: People have to understand we're dealing with the death cult.
- 6:53Speaker 1: These are not rational actors. I agree with that. Do
- 6:55Speaker 1: you agree with our assessment that this is not This
- 6:58Speaker 1: isn't even North Korea? Because North Three are antheists. They
- 7:03Speaker 1: just want to stay alive. But the Iranian theocrats and
- 7:07Speaker 1: the fanatics and the ir G see they are they're fanatics.
- 7:12Speaker 2: I'm glad you split that between the leadership, the autocrats, theocrats,
- 7:16Speaker 2: and the people. You know, the people I think of
- 7:19Speaker 2: Iran are uniquely well educated. You know, it can be
- 7:23Speaker 2: a very successful state. But the autocrats, I mean, they're
- 7:27Speaker 2: locked in. They've made money, they've had power, They've committed
- 7:32Speaker 2: many of them have committed crimes for which they will
- 7:34Speaker 2: would be held accountable by a transition, by a change
- 7:38Speaker 2: in regimes. So for them, this is existential. That's kind
- 7:44Speaker 2: of how I treat it. It's existential and existential. People
- 7:48Speaker 2: talk smack, like the smack that got Mark Levin pissed
- 7:52Speaker 2: off being pissed off.
- 7:55Speaker 1: Well, so should we say nothing and just do things?
- 7:58Speaker 1: Or ought we to enget agent educating the American people
- 8:01Speaker 1: about the regime, because I'm not sure we've done enough
- 8:05Speaker 1: of the fact that these are not rational actors.
- 8:09Speaker 3: You know, I'm glad you brought that up.
- 8:10Speaker 1: We have not.
- 8:11Speaker 2: The President has got to talk more frequently about what
- 8:14Speaker 2: this regime has done over forty seven years. But what
- 8:16Speaker 2: they've done over four months, you know, killing thirty two
- 8:19Speaker 2: thousand people in thirty six hours just three months ago.
- 8:23Speaker 2: I mean, it's like ancient history. Now, our European partners
- 8:26Speaker 2: can barely remember it happened. You know, there's some film
- 8:29Speaker 2: of it right there. You know this has been This
- 8:31Speaker 2: was a dramatic event. This was killing on the speed
- 8:36Speaker 2: and density, you know, comparable to nineteen forties Germany.
- 8:41Speaker 3: That's the last time it was like this. So you know,
- 8:43Speaker 3: from my perspective, we've got to do.
- 8:45Speaker 2: The President has got to, I think, explain who the
- 8:48Speaker 2: adversary is.
- 8:49Speaker 3: I know he knows it.
- 8:50Speaker 2: I know the people around him know it, but I
- 8:53Speaker 2: don't think he gets that the American people don't necessarily
- 8:56Speaker 2: know it.
- 8:57Speaker 3: And also, as a reminder to our European partners.
- 8:59Speaker 2: You know well that these when you say, you know,
- 9:03Speaker 2: YouTube belligerents are equal kind of the way McCrone talks
- 9:05Speaker 2: about it.
- 9:06Speaker 1: We're not.
- 9:07Speaker 3: There's a big difference between the two of us.
- 9:09Speaker 2: And if you can't recognize it, you're not truly a
- 9:12Speaker 2: democratic aspirant.
- 9:15Speaker 1: So last question, admimal in terms of our European partners,
- 9:20Speaker 1: if they don't show up now, is that a significant blowing,
- 9:25Speaker 1: if not a permanent blow to the alliance. If they
- 9:27Speaker 1: don't show up now, they're not showing up when we
- 9:29Speaker 1: really need them. I don't know how we count on
- 9:31Speaker 1: them with China. If they don't show up, Now, this
- 9:36Speaker 1: was a big deal.
- 9:37Speaker 2: I want to say first, this is the worst, Like
- 9:39Speaker 2: you know, the perfect storm of events. One, President Trump,
- 9:42Speaker 2: the stuff with Greenland was kind of unnecessary and.
- 9:45Speaker 3: Did create friction.
- 9:48Speaker 2: Two they weren't brief very well, we weren't pre briefed
- 9:52Speaker 2: at all. But three they acted. They absolutely responded wrong.
- 9:57Speaker 2: And you put those three things together to blender and
- 9:59Speaker 2: you get the condition right now with the presence frustrated,
- 10:04Speaker 2: I'm glad he recognizes there between Poland and the Baltic
- 10:06Speaker 2: States and the western Europeans.
- 10:09Speaker 1: Yeah, the frontline states are gay verg.
- 10:12Speaker 2: Yeah, that he averts it. Potentially, maybe those troops from
- 10:14Speaker 2: Germany don't leave Europe, they.
- 10:15Speaker 1: Go to Poland.
- 10:16Speaker 2: That would be fantastic, especially the long range strike battiing
- 10:20Speaker 2: that was coming in, because that's very useful.
- 10:23Speaker 3: But my point on this is that you had a
- 10:25Speaker 3: perfect storm there of not.
- 10:26Speaker 5: Great things happening.
- 10:28Speaker 1: We'll come back to that in future weeks. Rear Admiral
- 10:31Speaker 1: Mark Montgomery, Senior fell retired, United Say, maybe senior fellow
- 10:35Speaker 1: at the Foundation for Defensive Democracies follow him on as
- 10:38Speaker 1: at Mark C. Montgomery. Thank you, Admiral. I'll be right
- 10:41Speaker 1: back in America with Alex Gray, American Global Security stay too.
- 10:50Speaker 6: I think that well, I'll get tired of this, I'll
- 10:52Speaker 6: get bored, or I'll have some pressure.
- 10:53Speaker 7: But there's no pressure. There's no pressure at all. We're
- 10:57Speaker 7: going to have a complete victory.
- 11:00Speaker 1: And Gloria and iman grace America, welcome back. I'm Hugh Hewitt.
- 11:03Speaker 1: That is, of course President Trump earlier today in the
- 11:05Speaker 1: Oval Office discuss that and the Iran War generally. I'm
- 11:09Speaker 1: joined by Alex Gray. Alex is the CEO of the
- 11:12Speaker 1: American Global Strategies Group, represents some of the country's finest
- 11:16Speaker 1: defense companies. He is the former chief of staff at
- 11:19Speaker 1: the National Security Council. Alex, are you surprised by the
- 11:23Speaker 1: President's confidence.
- 11:25Speaker 5: No, not at all.
- 11:26Speaker 8: And I think the reason is who the United States
- 11:29Speaker 8: is in a very enviable strategic position, particularly visa via Iran.
- 11:34Speaker 8: But I would argue that the conflict, that epic fury
- 11:38Speaker 8: has actually strengthened America's jew political position globally. You can
- 11:43Speaker 8: go region by region. I think we've come out of
- 11:45Speaker 8: this in a much stronger gew political hand than we
- 11:48Speaker 8: went in with it, and the President's looking at the
- 11:51Speaker 8: blockade and the success it's having in destroying the war
- 11:55Speaker 8: economy of Iran. He's looking at the confusion within the regime.
- 12:00Speaker 8: He's looking at their inability to get on the same page.
- 12:03Speaker 8: And I think the President's conclusion is we have a
- 12:06Speaker 8: lot higher tolerance for pain at the moment than this
- 12:09Speaker 8: decrepit autocratic regime that's falling apart at the seams than
- 12:13Speaker 8: they do. So his confidence is not surprising to me.
- 12:17Speaker 1: So yesterday the big story was Senator Mark Kelly, Democrat
- 12:21Speaker 1: from Arizona, went on faced the nation and told Margaret
- 12:26Speaker 1: Brennon that he'd been in a classified briefing. That's kind
- 12:29Speaker 1: of a red flag. You're not supposed to divulge what
- 12:32Speaker 1: you learn in classified briefings. That's got that with Senator
- 12:35Speaker 1: Cotton earlier today and said we're running low ammunition. A.
- 12:38Speaker 1: I don't believe them. B Do you believe them? And
- 12:41Speaker 1: see if he's right? What do we do?
- 12:46Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, look, let's start with the fact that Senator
- 12:50Speaker 8: Kelly is the living embodiment of the reason why the
- 12:55Speaker 8: legislative branch has consistently been sidelined in national security issues
- 13:00Speaker 8: over the last forty plus years, because I can tell
- 13:03Speaker 8: you firsthand, when you're making a decision about whether to
- 13:06Speaker 8: inform the legislative branch of something at the White House
- 13:09Speaker 8: or at the Pentagon, your first assumption is this is
- 13:12Speaker 8: going to get leaked and it's going to put people's
- 13:15Speaker 8: lives at risk. And it's because of people like Mark
- 13:18Speaker 8: Kelly that that is the default position of both democratic
- 13:21Speaker 8: administrations and Republican administrations. To the substance to your question, Hugh,
- 13:26Speaker 8: I think that the issue here, Yes, we have plenty
- 13:30Speaker 8: of munitions to do what the President needs us to
- 13:33Speaker 8: do and to have the ability to go back to
- 13:36Speaker 8: overmatch kinetically if that's what we have to do. There
- 13:39Speaker 8: is a broader point that I think people like the
- 13:42Speaker 8: under Secretary of War Elbridge Colby when he was a
- 13:45Speaker 8: private citizen made and people like myself and others that
- 13:49Speaker 8: consistently we do not have a sufficient defense industrial base
- 13:55Speaker 8: to be able to maintain munition stockpiles against a near
- 13:59Speaker 8: peace or peer competitor think China, for a long term conflict.
- 14:05Speaker 8: That is true, do we have sufficient resources? Do we
- 14:08Speaker 8: have sufficient munitions to do what needs to be done
- 14:11Speaker 8: in the immediate situation in Iran? I think absolutely. But
- 14:14Speaker 8: does the fact that we are stretching a bit, does
- 14:18Speaker 8: that show and demonstrate further that we need to be
- 14:21Speaker 8: thinking about in an even more high end conflict what
- 14:24Speaker 8: our needs are. Absolutely and if that prompts us to
- 14:27Speaker 8: be more strategic about our munitions needs, that's a good thing.
- 14:31Speaker 1: Now, Alex Gray, I know you're not going to tell
- 14:34Speaker 1: us any trade secrets or disclosed anything about your clients
- 14:37Speaker 1: that you're not supposed to disclose. You represent the very
- 14:40Speaker 1: best in America's defense industrial base. I can tell the
- 14:43Speaker 1: audience that they can look up ags if they want
- 14:46Speaker 1: to see that. Have they ramped up since Trump came back?
- 14:50Speaker 1: Do they have a demand signal on which they can rely?
- 14:55Speaker 8: They absolutely do. And I think that's both the traditional
- 14:57Speaker 8: defense companies. It's also the non traditional defense companies that
- 15:02Speaker 8: are coming into the Pentagon. And this administration particularly has
- 15:06Speaker 8: been extremely welcoming of non traditional players into the defense space.
- 15:11Speaker 8: But whether you're traditional non traditional, I think companies are
- 15:15Speaker 8: looking for two things here. They're looking for surety. They're
- 15:18Speaker 8: looking for a sense that budgets are going to match reality.
- 15:21Speaker 8: And that's what this over one trillion dollar proposed budget
- 15:25Speaker 8: helps do. It helps give a signal that you have
- 15:29Speaker 8: an administration that wants to see an industrial base ramped
- 15:33Speaker 8: up to its full capacity. And the second thing is
- 15:36Speaker 8: I think that they're looking at the reforms that are
- 15:38Speaker 8: going on in the Pentagon. People like the Deputy Secretary
- 15:41Speaker 8: of War Steve Feinberg, are finally tackling some of the
- 15:45Speaker 8: long standing procurement and acquisition issues that have the devil
- 15:49Speaker 8: traditional non traditional everybody in the industrial base.
- 15:52Speaker 3: And I think you're.
- 15:52Speaker 8: Starting to see a change in culture and just be
- 15:57Speaker 8: very honest, a lot of times, for many years, the
- 16:00Speaker 8: defense industry, I think didn't feel that there was a
- 16:04Speaker 8: necessity for change. And the President has put a lot
- 16:07Speaker 8: of pressure on the industry and you're starting to see
- 16:10Speaker 8: the industry respond in a patriotic and helpful way, and
- 16:13Speaker 8: I think that's a very virtuous cycle.
- 16:16Speaker 1: Alex I was downtown DC on Friday at the SCSP
- 16:20Speaker 1: Expo and that had I don't know hundreds of AI
- 16:26Speaker 1: companies and AI adjacent companies displaying their wares. That's the
- 16:30Speaker 1: conference that was organized by ek Shmidt at they a
- 16:32Speaker 1: suggestion of Henry Kissinger. It's overwhelming how much innovation America
- 16:37Speaker 1: is doing in that space does that oudor well for
- 16:41Speaker 1: our ability to respond. I don't think China can do
- 16:43Speaker 1: that kind of thing. I don't think they can actually
- 16:45Speaker 1: have a big convention expo with all their defense industries
- 16:50Speaker 1: hawking their wares than actually selling them because they'd be
- 16:53Speaker 1: afraid of leaking and getting arrested.
- 16:58Speaker 8: Yeah, I look, our great strength you, as you know
- 17:02Speaker 8: better than anyone, is the innovative nature of the American economy,
- 17:07Speaker 8: and AI is the place where, at this moment in
- 17:11Speaker 8: time that is most on display every day.
- 17:15Speaker 7: You know.
- 17:15Speaker 8: Obviously the Chinese are working over time with industrial policy,
- 17:19Speaker 8: with coercive efforts to try and keep up. We have
- 17:24Speaker 8: just a dynamic, rule of law based economy that they
- 17:27Speaker 8: can only dream of. My only concern you, just to
- 17:30Speaker 8: be a little bit of a downer, is we are
- 17:33Speaker 8: starting to see the Democratic Party particularly look at AI
- 17:38Speaker 8: as something to be regulated and something to be constrained.
- 17:42Speaker 8: We're seeing it with data centers, We're starting to see
- 17:45Speaker 8: it with questions about should we impose a universal basic income.
- 17:49Speaker 8: We're starting to see AI regulation at the state level
- 17:53Speaker 8: that in some cases is incredibly punitive and counterproductive. So
- 17:58Speaker 8: I think that there's beginning to be as there always
- 18:00Speaker 8: is with new technology a bit of a domestic backlash
- 18:05Speaker 8: that we need to be very careful of for both
- 18:07Speaker 8: economic innovation reasons but also for national security reasons.
- 18:11Speaker 1: All Right, you know you're the third guest I've asked
- 18:12Speaker 1: this to today, asked adwal Montgomery, Senator Cotton. But one
- 18:16Speaker 1: thing I know we're not running short of is torpedo
- 18:18Speaker 1: tubes in Virginia class attack submarines. What about just sinking
- 18:22Speaker 1: the Iranian tankers? We've been we've been capturing them and
- 18:25Speaker 1: taking them into neutral harbors. But if we really run
- 18:28Speaker 1: short on munitions or we h they got too many
- 18:31Speaker 1: ghost fleet? Got any problem with just sinking them? I mean,
- 18:34Speaker 1: give the crew notice and everything, get them off the boat,
- 18:37Speaker 1: but then sink it. We that happened a thousand times
- 18:39Speaker 1: in World War Two.
- 18:41Speaker 8: Yeah, no, here, you're I think you're one hundred percent right.
- 18:44Speaker 8: It's why we defeated the Japanese. We choked them off
- 18:47Speaker 8: with undersea dominance, and it's our it's our greatest strength.
- 18:50Speaker 3: Look, we did it to.
- 18:51Speaker 8: The Iranian Navy off the coast of India. I don't
- 18:54Speaker 8: see whether there's any reason if you give the appropriate
- 18:57Speaker 8: warning to you know, ostensibly civilian mariners, that we're going
- 19:01Speaker 8: to do this if that's the best way, the most
- 19:03Speaker 8: efficient tactical way to stop the evading of the blockade,
- 19:07Speaker 8: I don't have any problem with it.
- 19:09Speaker 1: Okay, good to hear it. That's an interesting question that
- 19:13Speaker 1: crossed my mind because Senator Kelly, I'm not sure I
- 19:16Speaker 1: believe him, but if he's right, and we have to
- 19:18Speaker 1: steward our munition, we've got lots of torpedoes that haven't
- 19:21Speaker 1: been used since World War Two except that one time
- 19:23Speaker 1: Alex Grave American Global Security just referenced Alex Great. Thank you.
- 19:29Speaker 5: Yes, Margaret, we have.
- 19:31Speaker 9: We've been tracking it a number of times. We've been
- 19:34Speaker 9: briefed by the Pentagon on specific munitions. Actually it's been
- 19:38Speaker 9: pretty detailed on Tomahawk's attack, them's SM three's fat rounds,
- 19:44Speaker 9: Patriot rounds, so those interceptor rounds to defend ourselves, and
- 19:49Speaker 9: the numbers are I think it's fair to say it's
- 19:51Speaker 9: shocking how deep we have gone into these magazines.
- 19:57Speaker 1: Program Back America. I Hugh Hewett. That was Mark Kelly
- 20:00Speaker 1: on Face the Nation yesterday. I am joined now by
- 20:03Speaker 1: Senator Tom Cotton, who the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Senator.
- 20:07Speaker 1: A lot of people immediately assumed that Mark Kelly was
- 20:11Speaker 1: giving away classified information. Was that from classified briefings, Hugh.
- 20:18Speaker 10: I'm not going to pine on what Mark Kelly said
- 20:20Speaker 10: Yester on Sunday Shows. He's he has been in classified briefings,
- 20:24Speaker 10: so I've been there with him about the exact figures,
- 20:27Speaker 10: and those are pretty sensitive numbers, Hugh. In fact, if
- 20:30Speaker 10: I recall, I think sometimes they even ask most staff
- 20:33Speaker 10: to leave the room as well. I can say a
- 20:38Speaker 10: few things though that are not classified. One, everyone knows
- 20:42Speaker 10: that we have challenges with our ammunitions. We simply don't
- 20:45Speaker 10: make enough of our weapons fast enough. Two that's in
- 20:51Speaker 10: the small part because of Democratic cuts to our defense
- 20:55Speaker 10: budget over the years. It's like Merge migrating south for
- 20:59Speaker 10: the win. Every time a Democrat takes office, whether it's
- 21:03Speaker 10: Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, or Joe Biden, they cut the
- 21:06Speaker 10: defense budget. And one easy thing to cut, easier than
- 21:10Speaker 10: aircraft or ships or troops and their pay and their
- 21:14Speaker 10: health care and their benefits, is our munition's budget. And
- 21:18Speaker 10: Democrats stuff they can get away with that. And then
- 21:21Speaker 10: along comes urs, the war in Ukraine, and then the
- 21:25Speaker 10: wars against Iran over the last two and a half
- 21:27Speaker 10: years and the threat of a conflict over now. The
- 21:31Speaker 10: Democrats are blaming Donald Trump somehow for this, when it's
- 21:35Speaker 10: really their reckless cuts to the defense budget. The final
- 21:40Speaker 10: thing I'll say, Hugh, is that obviously the President, Marco Rubio,
- 21:45Speaker 10: Pete Hegseth, Steve Feinberg, Dan Kine are all aware of
- 21:49Speaker 10: these challenges and they would not take any action, in
- 21:52Speaker 10: my opinion, that endangers our national security that leaves us
- 21:56Speaker 10: unable to defend ourselves, to defend our friends around the world, world,
- 22:00Speaker 10: and to church China.
- 22:02Speaker 1: So let me take it away from Senator Kelly then
- 22:06Speaker 1: and not ask you to comment on him. Can you
- 22:09Speaker 1: discuss the munition stockpiles with me?
- 22:14Speaker 10: I can tell you that we don't have enough, and
- 22:15Speaker 10: we don't produce them fast enough for you. We need more.
- 22:18Speaker 10: That's been proving clear over the last five years by
- 22:21Speaker 10: the stress that our defense industrial base has exposed by
- 22:27Speaker 10: you praying in Iran. Let me be clear, though, it's
- 22:30Speaker 10: the war you train and the wars in Iran have
- 22:32Speaker 10: not caused the fragility or brittleness of our defense industrial base.
- 22:37Speaker 10: It's exposed them because of them. Is the reckless defense
- 22:41Speaker 10: cuts that Democrats always imposed when they take office. Now,
- 22:46Speaker 10: the Trump administration is working with us in Congress to
- 22:50Speaker 10: produce more missiles and missile defense interceptors as quickly as
- 22:54Speaker 10: we can. They've made good strides in the last year plus,
- 22:58Speaker 10: but there's more work to be.
- 22:59Speaker 1: Done here all right now, Senator I did some research today.
- 23:02Speaker 1: The one thing I know we're not low on is
- 23:05Speaker 1: torpedoes because we've only used two of them since World
- 23:08Speaker 1: War Two, and I assume every Virginia class submarine has
- 23:12Speaker 1: got torpedoes in it. During World War Two, we sank
- 23:15Speaker 1: five hundred and twenty nine oil tankers. Look that up.
- 23:18Speaker 1: At least one hundred of them were empty, So that
- 23:21Speaker 1: means we sunk four hundred and twenty nine oil tankers.
- 23:24Speaker 1: They're not as big as supertankers, but we sunk them.
- 23:27Speaker 1: Should we cut out the middlemendin just give we're capturing
- 23:31Speaker 1: these oil tankers right now, we're boarding with special forces,
- 23:34Speaker 1: and we're taking them into neutral harbors. And I don't
- 23:36Speaker 1: know what's going to happen to the oil of the ship,
- 23:38Speaker 1: but it's the ghost fleet. They're sanctioned vessels. Should we
- 23:41Speaker 1: just give the crew time to get off and then
- 23:44Speaker 1: sink them.
- 23:47Speaker 10: Huge, four at a time.
- 23:48Speaker 7: On that.
- 23:48Speaker 10: I would want to hear the professional military judgment of
- 23:53Speaker 10: General Kine, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and Admiral
- 23:55Speaker 10: Cooper are combatant commander in.
- 23:58Speaker 3: The Middle East.
- 23:59Speaker 10: But I think we should consider every option we have
- 24:03Speaker 10: to keep the economic advice on Iran and make it
- 24:06Speaker 10: even tighter because they're on the back foot right mail,
- 24:10Speaker 10: and every day gets worse for them.
- 24:12Speaker 1: What was your reaction, Senator, when you read yesterday that
- 24:17Speaker 1: the response of the National Security Council spokesperson in Iran
- 24:21Speaker 1: was that we should surrender, that we had lost the war,
- 24:24Speaker 1: and then President Trump dismissed quickly and comprehensively their long
- 24:29Speaker 1: winded non response to his proposal.
- 24:35Speaker 10: Hugh, I'm not the monded python expert that you are.
- 24:38Speaker 10: But every now and then you play that clip about
- 24:40Speaker 10: the guy who said it's just a flesh loan.
- 24:42Speaker 3: That's what it.
- 24:43Speaker 1: Brings to mind.
- 24:44Speaker 10: I do, and I just I mean, one simple observation
- 24:50Speaker 10: is that Donald Trump is still holding forth in press
- 24:53Speaker 10: conferences and going to golf tournaments every weekend. The Supreme
- 24:57Speaker 10: Leader of Iran has gone to his justice are killed
- 25:01Speaker 10: in the first day of this war. Our navy is
- 25:04Speaker 10: still on the sea. Their navy is underneath the sea.
- 25:08Speaker 10: They have no air force left. Basically every leader in
- 25:12Speaker 10: Iran is either dead or afraid to turn their cell
- 25:15Speaker 10: phone on. That doesn't exactly sound like a victory to me, Hugh,
- 25:18Speaker 10: no matter how much the Democrats and the liberal media
- 25:20Speaker 10: and America try to spin it as a victory for
- 25:22Speaker 10: Iran and defeat for America.
- 25:24Speaker 1: Well, I do hear the left arguing that we're in
- 25:29Speaker 1: a forever war when you know, we've been there two months,
- 25:34Speaker 1: and if this takes six months to bring this regime
- 25:37Speaker 1: to its knees, or eight months or a year, and
- 25:41Speaker 1: we don't have troops on the ground, is that a
- 25:43Speaker 1: forever war? Soender Cotton here.
- 25:46Speaker 10: The forever war is what Iran waged against us for
- 25:48Speaker 10: forty seven years, and we largely turned the other cheek.
- 25:52Speaker 10: We had presidents like mill Clinton and Barack Obama and
- 25:54Speaker 10: Joe Biden might talk a tough game against Iran, but
- 25:57Speaker 10: in the end they usually extended to helping him to
- 26:02Speaker 10: arrive and they were scared to strike back. Now we
- 26:04Speaker 10: have a president who is actually enforcing the words of
- 26:08Speaker 10: past presidents Republican and Democrat alike, to end the campaign
- 26:13Speaker 10: of terror that Iran is waged, not just against the U,
- 26:15Speaker 10: I'd say to you, but against the civilized world. For
- 26:16Speaker 10: forty seven years, that's the only forever work that's been
- 26:19Speaker 10: waged here. We just decided to finally join it and
- 26:22Speaker 10: win it in short order.
- 26:23Speaker 1: So last question, Senator Cotton. Back when the JCPOA, that
- 26:27Speaker 1: disastrous deal that was entered into by President Obama was signed,
- 26:32Speaker 1: you sent a letter today to the late I tolda
- 26:35Speaker 1: how many not how many two point zero, but how
- 26:37Speaker 1: many one point zero? Say, hey, that's not really binding
- 26:41Speaker 1: and there are many flaws in it and it won't
- 26:43Speaker 1: find the next president. Did you point out at the
- 26:45Speaker 1: time that there were no missile restraints, there was no
- 26:48Speaker 1: proxy restraints, that the JCPOA was a terrible deal from
- 26:52Speaker 1: day one.
- 26:54Speaker 10: Yeah, maybe not in that letter to you, but we
- 26:56Speaker 10: certainly pointed out repeatedly that on the nuclear terms of
- 27:01Speaker 10: the bill itself were terrible, but the fact that it
- 27:03Speaker 10: didn't cover at all their missile programs or their support
- 27:06Speaker 10: for terrorism made it even worse. Obviously, you know, we
- 27:12Speaker 10: don't know the endgame in a roun right now, but
- 27:14Speaker 10: we're light years better than we were not just three
- 27:17Speaker 10: months ago, but ten months ago, with their nuclear programs
- 27:20Speaker 10: blown to smither rains, and with their missile and drone
- 27:24Speaker 10: magazines reduced, with the ability to replace them severely degraded,
- 27:29Speaker 10: and with their air force and may be destroyed.
- 27:32Speaker 1: Sarah Cotton, thank you for joining me, and thank you
- 27:34Speaker 1: for your precision in answering questions about national security in
- 27:38Speaker 1: such a way as to not perhaps give false confidence
- 27:41Speaker 1: to our enemies or betray classified information. Not that hard,
- 27:44Speaker 1: but at least you pay attention to your job and
- 27:47Speaker 1: not betraying American security in the course of doing it.
- 27:50Speaker 1: Thank you, Seda Cotton. I'll be right back in America's
- 27:52Speaker 1: Kids Back America. Hew it inside the Beltway. Joined by
- 27:55Speaker 1: America's columnist Selena Zito. Follower on x at zto Selena
- 28:01Speaker 1: or read everything that she writes at Selenazito dot com. Selena,
- 28:05Speaker 1: I loved your column on Brett Bair's book, which I
- 28:07Speaker 1: greatly enjoyed, The Case for America. I loved it so
- 28:11Speaker 1: much I'm not going to tell anyone about it. I
- 28:13Speaker 1: want them to go read it. But in a short version,
- 28:17Speaker 1: why did you love it?
- 28:20Speaker 3: Well?
- 28:21Speaker 11: He really makes the case in a way that is
- 28:25Speaker 11: both aspirational but informative, and.
- 28:28Speaker 12: He retains he really.
- 28:31Speaker 11: Digs into the optimism that makes us despite all of
- 28:34Speaker 11: the things, and all the struggles and all the setbacks
- 28:37Speaker 11: and all the bad choices that we have.
- 28:39Speaker 12: Made throughout our two hundred and fifty.
- 28:42Speaker 11: Year anniversary, at two hundred and fifty years of existence,
- 28:45Speaker 11: he really does a great way of prosecuting the case
- 28:50Speaker 11: that this country is exceptional, that we have lived up
- 28:54Speaker 11: to our ideals, and that the great experiment is working
- 28:58Speaker 11: and it is I.
- 29:00Speaker 1: Want to involve you in a controversy in which I
- 29:01Speaker 1: am tangentially involved. Here is what tom You know, Tommy
- 29:07Speaker 1: Vider one of the pod boys. It was on tiam Obama.
- 29:11Speaker 1: So Tommy, Yeah, Tommy was an intern in the White House.
- 29:15Speaker 1: Tommy writes, lames media tycoon turned political prisoner Jimmy Lai
- 29:21Speaker 1: for his imprisonment in Hong Kong. He says he blames
- 29:24Speaker 1: him and says he would keep Jim Comey in jail
- 29:28Speaker 1: if he was in prison in the US, just like
- 29:31Speaker 1: Jijin Ping wants lot in jail. Wonder if Trump's fluffer,
- 29:35Speaker 1: Ugh Hewett will weigh in on that take. Did you
- 29:38Speaker 1: hear the president's comments on Jimmy Lye to day, No, I.
- 29:42Speaker 12: Did not, but I was out on the road.
- 29:44Speaker 1: What did he say, Well, let me play them for you.
- 29:46Speaker 1: Cut number five.
- 29:48Speaker 12: Oh, yes, thereas morning. She's the daughter of Jimmy Lai.
- 29:51Speaker 2: And she told me that she's been praying and hoping
- 29:53Speaker 2: that you'll be the.
- 29:54Speaker 12: One that brings her dad home.
- 29:55Speaker 2: She says, of any administration, she thinks you're the one
- 29:58Speaker 2: that could do it.
- 29:59Speaker 5: Do you hear jimim Jimmy Lai's daughter.
- 30:01Speaker 7: And there's another gentleman, a minister pastor. As you know,
- 30:06Speaker 7: I'll bring them both up. I brought it up before
- 30:10Speaker 7: Jimmy Lay.
- 30:10Speaker 3: I brought up the other.
- 30:11Speaker 13: One I just heard about this morning. Actually, and I
- 30:14Speaker 13: do bring that up. You know we've gotten I don't
- 30:17Speaker 13: know if you've been reading John Cole.
- 30:19Speaker 7: He's a great lawyer who was a tobacco lawyers.
- 30:24Speaker 3: Great, great guy.
- 30:25Speaker 6: I won't say he's an older guy because he may
- 30:27Speaker 6: be offended by.
- 30:27Speaker 3: That, but he is.
- 30:28Speaker 6: He's a little older. He's a little older, and he's
- 30:31Speaker 6: a wise man. Actually made a fortune with the tobacco.
- 30:34Speaker 6: He did the first tobacco laws.
- 30:36Speaker 14: And he's a great man, and he he's brought.
- 30:39Speaker 15: Back hundreds of people out of various belarus.
- 30:44Speaker 7: You know, you read about.
- 30:45Speaker 15: That we had and the leader has been fantastic, But.
- 30:49Speaker 7: Somebody has to ask him.
- 30:51Speaker 3: I'd never asked.
- 30:52Speaker 15: We asked, and we were getting hundreds of people out
- 30:55Speaker 15: of confinement and prisons that shouldn't be there, and hundreds
- 31:00Speaker 15: and many of them aren't even citizens of the United States.
- 31:03Speaker 6: And people that have been captured in some form, ministers and.
- 31:07Speaker 15: People that are really innocent people and they're being held captive.
- 31:12Speaker 3: And I bring up Jimmy Light now, Jimmy Lai.
- 31:16Speaker 15: You know, he caused bedlam.
- 31:19Speaker 7: I don't know.
- 31:20Speaker 16: It's like saying to me, if call me ever went
- 31:24Speaker 16: to jail, would you let him out?
- 31:29Speaker 14: That might be a hard one for me, because that
- 31:32Speaker 14: makes sense. It might be a hard you know, because
- 31:34Speaker 14: he's a dirty cop. But Jimmy Laie is in that way.
- 31:37Speaker 14: But Jimmy Light, he caused lots of turmoil for China.
- 31:43Speaker 17: He tried to do the right thing, he wasn't successful,
- 31:46Speaker 17: went to jail, and people would like him out and
- 31:48Speaker 17: I'd like to see him get out to so I'll
- 31:51Speaker 17: bring him up again.
- 31:52Speaker 7: I have brought him up and there's another gentleman.
- 31:54Speaker 18: A pastor as you know, with a beautiful daughter and
- 31:59Speaker 18: son in law, would like to see him get out.
- 32:01Speaker 7: I'm going to bring his name up.
- 32:03Speaker 1: So saying the three things he said, James Commy was
- 32:07Speaker 1: a dirty cop, Jimmy Lai is not like that. Jimmy
- 32:10Speaker 1: Li tried to do the right thing, caused bedlam, caust
- 32:13Speaker 1: some problems for GI, but I'll try and get him out.
- 32:17Speaker 1: To remind you what Tommy Beeter said, he said Trump
- 32:20Speaker 1: blames media tycoon turned political prisoner Jimmy Lai for his
- 32:23Speaker 1: imprisonment and says he would keep Chincomi in jail if
- 32:26Speaker 1: he was in prison in the US, just like GJMP
- 32:29Speaker 1: wants lie in jail. Wonder if Trump's fluffer you Hewitt
- 32:32Speaker 1: will weigh in on that take. What do you make
- 32:35Speaker 1: of Tommy Beeter's comment?
- 32:38Speaker 12: Well, first of all, that's the most twisted sentence.
- 32:40Speaker 11: I mean, you have to it's like an algebra problem,
- 32:43Speaker 11: a calculus problem. It doesn't even make sense to be honest,
- 32:46Speaker 11: It's a lie.
- 32:49Speaker 12: Well, yeah, it is a lie. I mean I feel
- 32:51Speaker 12: like that's that's obvious. Right. But here's the thing about Trump.
- 32:57Speaker 11: Remember when the Western Pennsylvania teacher was held and Trump
- 33:04Speaker 11: handled it kind of the same way you like, I'll
- 33:07Speaker 11: ask I'll see if I can get him out of Russia.
- 33:10Speaker 3: And he sort of.
- 33:10Speaker 12: Danced around it but didn't assure anything. And the next
- 33:14Speaker 12: thing we know.
- 33:14Speaker 11: He comes he's dumb meeting with Putin, and then like
- 33:18Speaker 11: a week later he's back home.
- 33:20Speaker 1: Well, I think I don't know, but I think he
- 33:23Speaker 1: was foreshadowing his tactic. I think he's going to do
- 33:26Speaker 1: something like gee, you know, gee, I know this day.
- 33:30Speaker 1: I understand if someone put if Comy went to jail,
- 33:33Speaker 1: I'd have a hard time if you came to me
- 33:35Speaker 1: and asked me to let him out. But it's not
- 33:37Speaker 1: the same thing. Comy's a dirty cop and Jimmy Lyve
- 33:42Speaker 1: was just a political protester, so you should let that.
- 33:45Speaker 1: I think he was just foreshadowing his argument.
- 33:48Speaker 12: Yes, he was totally doing that.
- 33:51Speaker 11: This is the way he talks and way he deals
- 33:53Speaker 11: in the way he teases out a situation to get
- 33:57Speaker 11: the most out of it, right, and in the end
- 34:01Speaker 11: everyone's like, oh wow, I can't believe you got them out.
- 34:05Speaker 1: So what is wrong with the Obama people that they
- 34:08Speaker 1: hate Trump? So have you seen how many TDS people
- 34:11Speaker 1: have been gone crazy because of the statue at the
- 34:15Speaker 1: Durreal golf course at Donald Trump.
- 34:20Speaker 11: Oh, yes I have, and it's been unfortunate the way
- 34:25Speaker 11: that they.
- 34:25Speaker 12: Have framed it.
- 34:27Speaker 11: But you know, I can't get my I have never
- 34:33Speaker 11: hated anyone that was our president ever. Ever, I might
- 34:38Speaker 11: not like their policies, I might have been exasperated by them,
- 34:42Speaker 11: but I never harbored.
- 34:43Speaker 12: Any deep hatred.
- 34:45Speaker 11: So I can't get my head inside of people making
- 34:49Speaker 11: their entire lives about hatred. And they write the same
- 34:54Speaker 11: stories every week, They write the same point of view
- 34:57Speaker 11: every week, they talk about the same point of view
- 34:59Speaker 11: on their podcast every week, and it's regurgitating this this hatred.
- 35:06Speaker 12: But it doesn't It leaves them stock. And I would
- 35:09Speaker 12: never want to.
- 35:10Speaker 11: Be professionally or emotionally stopped in the way today.
- 35:14Speaker 1: Off are I agree? It is corrosive on their soul,
- 35:17Speaker 1: on their perspective, and on their reality. Having trouble dealing
- 35:22Speaker 1: with reality. It's a statue, it's on his golf course.
- 35:26Speaker 1: He's not taking he's not trashing the United States Constitution.
- 35:31Speaker 1: Selena Zeta would follow her on access to Zito. Selena
- 35:34Speaker 1: Vakimerica I'm Hugh Hewett. Betany Mandela is my guest. She
- 35:38Speaker 1: is one of the proprietors of the moom Wars dot
- 35:41Speaker 1: substat dot com. Bethany, you know the President's going to
- 35:44Speaker 1: go so now I'm a General Secretary g this week.
- 35:47Speaker 1: And I assume you know who Jimmy Layah is.
- 35:50Speaker 5: I do, yes, okay?
- 35:52Speaker 1: And do you know who Tommy Veter is one of
- 35:56Speaker 1: the Pod bros yep, one of the pod boys I
- 35:58Speaker 1: call them to play for. I talked to the President
- 36:01Speaker 1: about Jimmy Lai a week ago. Today he said I
- 36:04Speaker 1: will bring him up, and then he got asked in
- 36:07Speaker 1: the Oval office by Mary Margaret today about Jimmy Lai.
- 36:10Speaker 1: This exchange followed about which then Tommy Vider and I've
- 36:14Speaker 1: had in exchange. Here's the original exchange, the President and
- 36:18Speaker 1: Mary Margaret in the Oval on China and Jimmy Lai
- 36:22Speaker 1: cut number five speaking there last morning.
- 36:25Speaker 11: She's the daughter of Jimmy Lai, and she told me
- 36:27Speaker 11: that she's been praying and hoping that you'll be the
- 36:29Speaker 11: one that brings her dad home.
- 36:30Speaker 3: She says, of any administration, she thinks you're the one.
- 36:33Speaker 5: That could do it.
- 36:34Speaker 12: Do you see jim Jimmy Lai's daughter.
- 36:36Speaker 7: And there's another gentleman, a minister pastor.
- 36:40Speaker 3: As you know.
- 36:40Speaker 7: I'll bring them both up. I brought it up before
- 36:45Speaker 7: Jimmy Laie. I brought up the other one.
- 36:46Speaker 13: I just heard about this morning, actually, and I do
- 36:50Speaker 13: bring that up.
- 36:51Speaker 6: You know, we've gotten I don't know if you've been
- 36:53Speaker 6: reading John Cole, who's a great lawyer.
- 36:57Speaker 7: It was the tobacco lawyers. Great, great guy.
- 37:00Speaker 6: I won't say he's an older guy because he may
- 37:02Speaker 6: be offended by that, but he is.
- 37:03Speaker 7: He's a little older.
- 37:04Speaker 6: He's a little older, and he's a wise man. Actually
- 37:08Speaker 6: made a fortune with the tobacco. He did the first
- 37:10Speaker 6: tobacco boss. And he's a great man.
- 37:13Speaker 14: And he he's brought.
- 37:14Speaker 6: Back hundreds of people out of various belaruts.
- 37:19Speaker 7: You know, you read about.
- 37:20Speaker 6: That we had and the leader has been fantastic.
- 37:24Speaker 7: But somebody has to ask him.
- 37:26Speaker 3: I'd never asked.
- 37:27Speaker 15: We asked, and we were getting hundreds of people out
- 37:30Speaker 15: of confinement and prisons that shouldn't be there, and hundreds
- 37:35Speaker 15: and many of them aren't even.
- 37:37Speaker 7: Citizens of the United States. And people that have been
- 37:39Speaker 7: captured in.
- 37:40Speaker 6: Some form, ministers and people that are really innocent people
- 37:44Speaker 6: and they're being held captive.
- 37:47Speaker 7: And I bring up Jimmy Light. Now, Jimmy Lae, you.
- 37:51Speaker 15: Know, caused let bedlam.
- 37:55Speaker 7: I don't know.
- 37:56Speaker 16: It's like saying to me, you've called me, but to jail,
- 38:01Speaker 16: would you let him out?
- 38:04Speaker 7: That might be a hard one for me.
- 38:07Speaker 14: Does that make sense? It might be hard because he's
- 38:09Speaker 14: a dirty cop. But Jimmy Laie isn't that way. But
- 38:12Speaker 14: Jimmy led.
- 38:14Speaker 7: He goes lots of turmoil for China.
- 38:19Speaker 3: He tried to do the right thing.
- 38:20Speaker 17: He wasn't successful, went to jail, and people would like
- 38:23Speaker 17: him out, and I'd like to see him get out too,
- 38:26Speaker 17: So I'll bring.
- 38:26Speaker 7: Him up again. I have brought him up. And there's
- 38:29Speaker 7: another gentleman, a pastor as.
- 38:31Speaker 18: You know, with a beautiful daughter and son in law
- 38:35Speaker 18: that would like to see him get out.
- 38:36Speaker 7: I'm going to bring his team up.
- 38:38Speaker 1: So Bethany Tommy posts on as Trump blames media tycoon
- 38:44Speaker 1: turned political prisoner Jimmy Lai for his imprisonment in Hong
- 38:48Speaker 1: Kong and says he would keep Jim Comey in jail
- 38:51Speaker 1: if he was in prison in the US, just like
- 38:53Speaker 1: Ji Jinping wants lie in jail. I wonder if Trump's
- 38:57Speaker 1: sloper Hugh Hewitt will wein weigh in on this take,
- 39:01Speaker 1: to which I responded, how shocking you discover Tommy doesn't
- 39:03Speaker 1: do research I much care about the truth. Is that
- 39:06Speaker 1: what Trump said as Tommy related.
- 39:10Speaker 19: It's it's no, it's it's pretty wild to see how
- 39:14Speaker 19: they can possibly twist everything that Trump says to fit
- 39:17Speaker 19: their narrative. And it's especially disturbing when you see this
- 39:21Speaker 19: kind of game gamesmanship happening over someone's freedom. It's it's
- 39:26Speaker 19: not just American politics, it's not it's not a game.
- 39:29Speaker 19: This is someone's life that he's toying with, and in
- 39:32Speaker 19: so doing, he's taking the side of the Chinese. He's
- 39:35Speaker 19: playing into their hands and shifting the blame and causing
- 39:40Speaker 19: divisiveness at a moment where the president's doing the right
- 39:42Speaker 19: thing here, and it seems like he'd rather get a
- 39:45Speaker 19: dunk than, you know, for a man to have his freedom.
- 39:49Speaker 1: And that's it's also just simply not true what the
- 39:53Speaker 1: president'said is. Yeah, the analogy is, if you asked me
- 39:56Speaker 1: to let Comy go, it would be a tough lift
- 39:59Speaker 1: for me, like it's a tough lift for she to
- 40:02Speaker 1: let Jimmy l go, not because Jimmy Laie. I honestly
- 40:06Speaker 1: don't know if Peter's dumb. Do you think he's dumb
- 40:08Speaker 1: or do you think he knows what he's doing.
- 40:11Speaker 19: I think he knows what he's doing. I think he
- 40:12Speaker 19: knows what he's doing. I think it would be more
- 40:14Speaker 19: convenient if he were dumb and we could sort of
- 40:17Speaker 19: brush it off and say, what an idiot. But he's
- 40:20Speaker 19: pretty calculating. It's a really disgusting move. He knows exactly
- 40:23Speaker 19: what he's.
- 40:23Speaker 1: Doing, and what he's doing is anything in the service
- 40:26Speaker 1: of the narrative. Trump can't have a win. Trump can't
- 40:29Speaker 1: be better on human rights than Obama, who was abysmal.
- 40:31Speaker 1: Now let me ask you about the response from Iran.
- 40:35Speaker 1: They blew off whatever we sent them, the fourteen points,
- 40:39Speaker 1: which had me un nerves. They blew it off completely,
- 40:42Speaker 1: I am. And then their national security spokesman said America
- 40:46Speaker 1: should surrender. How ought we to respond to that? In
- 40:50Speaker 1: your opinion, Bethany Mandel.
- 40:53Speaker 19: I mean, I think how President Trump responded was good.
- 40:56Speaker 19: He said, you know, this entire situation is on life support.
- 41:00Speaker 19: These people are suicidal, and that this is the problem
- 41:03Speaker 19: with dealing with actors like these because they'll never surrender.
- 41:07Speaker 19: They'll never they'll never give up. I read a great piece,
- 41:09Speaker 19: right Jonathan Schanzer from FDD in Commentary magazine this month,
- 41:13Speaker 19: and he basically said, like, we're never going to have
- 41:15Speaker 19: a situation like we had the end of World War
- 41:17Speaker 19: Two where they just unconditionally surrender, and so we just
- 41:20Speaker 19: kind of have to decide you're done now and it's
- 41:23Speaker 19: time to walk away, because these suicidal maniacs who are
- 41:26Speaker 19: in charge of the regime will never just put up
- 41:29Speaker 19: their hands and say, Okay, I cry uncle. You know,
- 41:33Speaker 19: I think the way that the President has been supporting
- 41:37Speaker 19: the fact that they that the Iranian people want to
- 41:38Speaker 19: pick up arms is good because that is our endpoint here.
- 41:42Speaker 19: That's that's our exit strategy.
- 41:44Speaker 1: So do you think American generally, not the Tommy leaders
- 41:48Speaker 1: of the world or the Obama apologies, but American it's
- 41:51Speaker 1: a death cult. That's different from China, Russia and North Korea,
- 41:56Speaker 1: which hasn't interest all of them in surviving and prosperous.
- 42:00Speaker 1: Iran has an interest in dying, or at least the
- 42:02Speaker 1: people running the regime, not the Iranian ninety two million people,
- 42:05Speaker 1: but the two hundred and fifty thousand people in the IRGC.
- 42:08Speaker 1: It's a death cult. You can't negotiate with Jim Jones
- 42:12Speaker 1: and the People's Temple in Guyana, can you.
- 42:16Speaker 19: Yes, that's true. I would argue that the North Korean
- 42:19Speaker 19: regime is also a death cult. But yes, no, I
- 42:21Speaker 19: think you're absolutely correct. There is no negotiating with people
- 42:24Speaker 19: who who think that the ultimate reward is you know,
- 42:28Speaker 19: paradise with however many virgins, Where do you go from there?
- 42:32Speaker 19: With these kinds of people.
- 42:33Speaker 1: Okay, so I want to get you ready for what
- 42:35Speaker 1: I think we're going to do. I'll ask a few
- 42:37Speaker 1: experts today. They have lots of tankers. We have lots
- 42:41Speaker 1: of ways to stop tankers, but some get away from us.
- 42:44Speaker 1: But we have forty plus Virginia Tech submarines. We can
- 42:48Speaker 1: put torpedoes into tankers that belong to Iran. And we
- 42:52Speaker 1: sank a thousand tankers in World War Two. We had
- 42:55Speaker 1: just sink their tanker. You know, give them notice, get
- 42:57Speaker 1: the crew off. Say we're about to sink your tanker.
- 43:00Speaker 1: You might want to take to the lifeboats. Should we
- 43:02Speaker 1: do that?
- 43:04Speaker 19: I'm no, Pete Hegseth, I'm no, you know, military strategician.
- 43:08Speaker 19: But this can't go on, this bizarre holding pattern that
- 43:12Speaker 19: we're in with the with the ceasefire as it stands,
- 43:16Speaker 19: it can't continue.
- 43:18Speaker 3: You know.
- 43:18Speaker 19: I don't think that we can say we can walk
- 43:20Speaker 19: away and put up our hands and you know, wipe
- 43:21Speaker 19: them and say we're done here. I don't think we're
- 43:23Speaker 19: done here. And so, you know, if it takes more
- 43:27Speaker 19: military action of that nature, I think that's important. We
- 43:32Speaker 19: need to get the gas prices down, we need to
- 43:33Speaker 19: get that straight opened up. And if that's how it
- 43:36Speaker 19: has to happen, then the rest of the world should
- 43:38Speaker 19: thank us. I know that they won't, but you know,
- 43:40Speaker 19: I think that that's the most likely next step that
- 43:43Speaker 19: will get us to an endpoint that is, you know,
- 43:46Speaker 19: sort of acceptable for everyone in America.
- 43:48Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't want to blow up their infrastructure. You
- 43:50Speaker 1: want that for the Iranian people after the regime crumbles. Yeah,
- 43:54Speaker 1: But thinking the tanker doesn't end the export of oil
- 43:58Speaker 1: because they are actually legit tankers out, they're not their
- 44:00Speaker 1: shadow fleet. Bethany Mandel, good to talk to us always.
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- 46:35Speaker 20: Welcome back America. I'm here, Hewett. You ever listen to that?
- 46:42Speaker 1: That is Southern grind. It is from part three of
- 46:47Speaker 1: the part album Resurrection and Revival by Max Sonise. His father,
- 46:53Speaker 1: Gary Sinise, joins us. Gary's been working on that project
- 46:56Speaker 1: since max' dath. He went and found all of his
- 46:59Speaker 1: music on this computer. Good friend of the program, Gary soon,
- 47:03Speaker 1: it's good friend of veterans and first responders across the
- 47:06Speaker 1: United States. And I love this project. Garry, how are you?
- 47:09Speaker 1: And how goes the project with your son? And we'll
- 47:11Speaker 1: come to the foundation of the next segment. But tell
- 47:13Speaker 1: me about Revival Part three, Resurrection and Revival.
- 47:17Speaker 21: Thanks yes, thanks so much for having me.
- 47:21Speaker 7: Hugh.
- 47:23Speaker 21: Well, you know, and we had you and I had
- 47:25Speaker 21: talked when we put out the Resurrection and Revival Part
- 47:30Speaker 21: two album, and that was a lot of music that
- 47:34Speaker 21: I found on my son's laptop that he'd written but
- 47:40Speaker 21: never played for me. Tucked it away and I found
- 47:42Speaker 21: it and we went to work on Resurrection and Revival
- 47:45Speaker 21: Part two, which came out in.
- 47:49Speaker 5: Twenty twenty four.
- 47:51Speaker 21: Last year twenty twenty five, I started looking through the
- 47:54Speaker 21: laptop again and I started finding all kinds of music,
- 47:57Speaker 21: and the piece that you just played little bit there,
- 48:01Speaker 21: it's called Southern Grind. That's really the piece that I
- 48:04Speaker 21: found that started the whole ball roating. I had never
- 48:07Speaker 21: seen the file when I put together Resurrection and Revival
- 48:12Speaker 21: Part two, and then I stumbled on this file and
- 48:16Speaker 21: it turns out that Mac was writing music for an
- 48:19Speaker 21: industrial film called Public Landshu and one of the pieces
- 48:25Speaker 21: he was writing was this Southern grind. I never found it,
- 48:28Speaker 21: and it's just this great rock and blues tune. And
- 48:32Speaker 21: that started me looking through the laptop again, and I
- 48:36Speaker 21: started finding all kinds of additional melodies, Max singing into
- 48:41Speaker 21: his phone, just thing ideas that he was having playing
- 48:45Speaker 21: the piano, all these different things, and we found so
- 48:48Speaker 21: many musical ideas and some pretty structured pieces and everything
- 48:53Speaker 21: that I thought, well, I've got to go to work
- 48:56Speaker 21: on a third album, and Resurrection and Revival Part three
- 49:00Speaker 21: now is being pressed. It's in pre sale at the
- 49:03Speaker 21: Gary Senese Foundation, and it comes out next month.
- 49:07Speaker 1: I thought the fact that we're going to talk today.
- 49:09Speaker 1: Yesterday I was down with my daughter and her for
- 49:13Speaker 1: kids because my son in law is deployed, and the
- 49:16Speaker 1: pastor of her church brought up very poignant you know,
- 49:20Speaker 1: I'm getting ready to talk to you, making my notes
- 49:22Speaker 1: for the next segment about the foundation and the new
- 49:24Speaker 1: warriors who've been wounded, and he made a point saying, people,
- 49:27Speaker 1: you got to remember on Mother's Day there are lots
- 49:30Speaker 1: of mothers who have lost their children to premature death
- 49:34Speaker 1: in the way that Moira has, and for them it's
- 49:37Speaker 1: a very difficult day. Keep them in your prayers.
- 49:40Speaker 21: How is Moira, Oh, thanks so much for asking you.
- 49:45Speaker 21: She's doing okay. You know this is a you know,
- 49:51Speaker 21: the loss of a child is it's hard to explain.
- 49:55Speaker 21: I've met so many of the families of our fallen
- 49:58Speaker 21: heroes who have lost service members and whatnot over the years,
- 50:03Speaker 21: and I've tried to help them through and I've learned
- 50:07Speaker 21: quite a bit from them about resilience and perseverance in
- 50:11Speaker 21: the face of tremendous grief. And then we got hit
- 50:15Speaker 21: with a cancer diagnosis in twenty eighteen for our son
- 50:19Speaker 21: Mac and he battled that for six years, and then
- 50:23Speaker 21: when we lost him. I mean, even though I could
- 50:29Speaker 21: see what the cancer was doing to him and it
- 50:32Speaker 21: was getting worse and worse and worse, I still never
- 50:36Speaker 21: believed that we weren't going to get through it. And
- 50:40Speaker 21: then when all of a sudden things turned and it
- 50:45Speaker 21: was his final hours, and then he was gone, and
- 50:47Speaker 21: I couldn't talk to him anymore, and the family couldn't
- 50:50Speaker 21: talk to him anymore, and he was gone. I thought about,
- 50:55Speaker 21: you know, I couldn't help but think about all the
- 50:57Speaker 21: families who had lost loved ones quickly, you know, a
- 51:01Speaker 21: bombing or a shooting or.
- 51:04Speaker 5: Something like that. People that I've met so often over
- 51:08Speaker 5: the years, and you know they have they have given
- 51:13Speaker 5: me a.
- 51:13Speaker 21: Lot of strength to try to persevere through this, and
- 51:16Speaker 21: certainly Mac leaving all this incredible music for me to find.
- 51:21Speaker 5: I mean, it really was like a beautiful gift.
- 51:24Speaker 21: There's a there's a book coming out you that I've
- 51:26Speaker 21: been working on for a couple of years. It comes
- 51:29Speaker 21: out in November. It's called Graceful Warrior. And that's how
- 51:34Speaker 21: I saw Mac as this graceful warrior, just plowing through
- 51:39Speaker 21: as this cancer was disabling him.
- 51:42Speaker 5: More and more, and then the final year of.
- 51:45Speaker 21: His life just gracefully pushing through it because music had
- 51:50Speaker 21: come back.
- 51:51Speaker 5: Into his life and he ended up doing the first
- 51:53Speaker 5: record and now there are three.
- 51:56Speaker 21: Albums of his music and it's been a beautiful bless
- 52:00Speaker 21: for me to be hearing you.
- 52:02Speaker 1: Turning back in the next segment, this is the ether
- 52:05Speaker 1: from Resurrection Revival Part three. Welcome back in America. I'm
- 52:45Speaker 1: hw Hewett, friend of the show. Gary Sinise is still
- 52:48Speaker 1: with us. This is Triumphant from Maxinessee album Resurrection and
- 52:53Speaker 1: Revival Part three, which are forthcoming. Find out about it
- 52:56Speaker 1: at the Gary Sense Foundation, available in a limited supply. Gary,
- 53:01Speaker 1: I want to turn to the Foundation and we'll get
- 53:04Speaker 1: a longer bit of the last cut before we go out.
- 53:08Speaker 1: Following into you. That's the last cut from Max Music
- 53:11Speaker 1: for today, and then we'll talk when your book comes out,
- 53:14Speaker 1: because I think that sounds like a fabulous book in November.
- 53:18Speaker 1: But I've been thinking about the foundation. I'm going to
- 53:22Speaker 1: do my annual Memorial Day show with the fund. This
- 53:25Speaker 1: is the first time in a long time that there
- 53:27Speaker 1: will be new families of the fallen and new wounded,
- 53:30Speaker 1: and there are a lot of wounded. People don't know that.
- 53:32Speaker 1: In the war with Iran, there have been hundreds of soldiers, sailors, airmen,
- 53:36Speaker 1: and marines who have been wounded, and you've already assured
- 53:40Speaker 1: me you're on the case. Tell people about that because
- 53:42Speaker 1: the Gary Sinisee Foundation does fabulous work with our wounded warriors.
- 53:47Speaker 21: Well thanks you just one brief mention that piece Triumphant
- 53:51Speaker 21: that you were playing for the National Memorial Day Concert
- 53:56Speaker 21: on May twenty fourth on PBS, we will be features
- 54:00Speaker 21: that piece of music. The National Symphony Orchestra is going
- 54:03Speaker 21: to be playing that piece of music for a nine
- 54:05Speaker 21: to eleven anniversary segment.
- 54:08Speaker 5: So I'm very very proud of all that.
- 54:11Speaker 1: Are they doing that on them all?
- 54:13Speaker 5: It's right in front of the Capitol.
- 54:15Speaker 21: We have two hundred thousand people on the lawn, the
- 54:18Speaker 21: west lawn of the Capitol, and the National Symphony Orchestra
- 54:22Speaker 21: is going to be playing that piece and another piece
- 54:25Speaker 21: that Mac wrote from a Resurrection and Revival Part two.
- 54:28Speaker 21: So I guess you gotta believe that the music is
- 54:31Speaker 21: good if the National Symphony is going to.
- 54:33Speaker 1: Put oh yeah, they're not going to do that. As
- 54:36Speaker 1: a favor to anybody. I insist on playing something that
- 54:41Speaker 1: makes people stand up and feel proud on our nation's
- 54:43Speaker 1: childred and fiftieth birthday. So let's talk about the.
- 54:47Speaker 21: Foundation absolutely, Hugh, as you asked me about the current
- 54:55Speaker 21: conflict and the wounded, and of course, you know, whenever
- 55:00Speaker 21: our country is in conflict or bad things are happening,
- 55:04Speaker 21: or whatever that we hear about in terms of our
- 55:06Speaker 21: service members sacrificing, my foundation jumps into action and we
- 55:12Speaker 21: reached out immediately to help the families of our fallen
- 55:15Speaker 21: heroes that we've lost, you know, in this current conflict.
- 55:20Speaker 5: But also there have been you know.
- 55:23Speaker 21: Hundreds of wounded in these in these missile attacks and whatnot,
- 55:28Speaker 21: and and.
- 55:29Speaker 5: So we you know, jump into action. The American people
- 55:32Speaker 5: support the Gary Sneeze.
- 55:34Speaker 21: Foundation and help us do a lot of wonderful, wonderful
- 55:37Speaker 21: things so that we can ensure that these families that
- 55:41Speaker 21: are going through difficulties know that we're not going to
- 55:45Speaker 21: forget about them, and we're going to help them help
- 55:47Speaker 21: them through in whatever way that might be. We we
- 55:51Speaker 21: supported some of the families that have fallen in various ways,
- 55:56Speaker 21: you know, recently, and some of some of the wounded recently,
- 56:01Speaker 21: there was remember that terrorist attack on our National Guard
- 56:07Speaker 21: right on the.
- 56:08Speaker 5: Streets of water.
- 56:08Speaker 21: Oh yeah, we lost a soldier there and we supported
- 56:13Speaker 21: her family through that as well as the family of
- 56:17Speaker 21: the wounded soldier, just trying to help them through wherever
- 56:20Speaker 21: we can. We want to be proactive in reaching out
- 56:23Speaker 21: to these families, reaching out to these units that need support,
- 56:27Speaker 21: because you know, a unit losing a soldier that can
- 56:30Speaker 21: be devastating on the entire unit, and so we just
- 56:34Speaker 21: reach out and try to help them through those moments in.
- 56:36Speaker 5: Whatever way we can.
- 56:38Speaker 21: We don't want to forget, and we want to always
- 56:40Speaker 21: try to do a little more to help them.
- 56:42Speaker 1: Yeah, Gary, you've been talking about this on this program
- 56:46Speaker 1: for twenty I don't know how long the foundation has
- 56:48Speaker 1: been going, but it's a couple of decades. And you
- 56:51Speaker 1: have enormous trust with the American piniers fifteen years. You
- 56:56Speaker 1: have an enormous trust and so people trust you with
- 57:00Speaker 1: the money and I think that's a wonderful brand to have.
- 57:04Speaker 1: And you're not ever retiring, right, You're not going to
- 57:07Speaker 1: retire on.
- 57:07Speaker 21: Us, not anytime soon.
- 57:11Speaker 7: No.
- 57:12Speaker 21: I'm actually going to Dover Air Force Base on the
- 57:15Speaker 21: twentieth to play a concert at Dover that's of course,
- 57:19Speaker 21: where the families of our fall income come through with
- 57:23Speaker 21: a dignified transfer. They have a great mission out there,
- 57:27Speaker 21: an important mission, and they don't get a lot.
- 57:29Speaker 5: Of attention in terms of support. So we're going to
- 57:32Speaker 5: take my band out.
- 57:32Speaker 21: There and play for them, and then I'm going to
- 57:35Speaker 21: Fort Belvoir on the twenty first. I just got back
- 57:38Speaker 21: from England where we played a couple of concerts. We
- 57:40Speaker 21: actually were at one of the Air Force bases over
- 57:43Speaker 21: there with a squadron that had the F fifteen that
- 57:49Speaker 21: got shot down over Iran. Thankfully the two pilots were rescued,
- 57:54Speaker 21: but we played at that base.
- 57:56Speaker 5: And supported that mission there.
- 57:59Speaker 21: We just we just want to make sure me and look,
- 58:01Speaker 21: I started doing this years ago. I got a lot
- 58:03Speaker 21: of veterans of my family. I have great respect for them.
- 58:06Speaker 21: I want to do everything I can to help them through.
- 58:09Speaker 21: You know, no matter if we're in current conflict or
- 58:13Speaker 21: or not, somebody is serving out there.
- 58:16Speaker 5: They're sacrificing.
- 58:17Speaker 21: People get hurt in training accidents, we lose them unfortunately
- 58:21Speaker 21: to you know, they take their own lives sometimes and
- 58:24Speaker 21: those families go through a lot. We have one of
- 58:26Speaker 21: our programs it's called Snowball Express just specifically focused on
- 58:31Speaker 21: the families and the children, especially of our fallen heroes,
- 58:37Speaker 21: and we want these families go through a lot, and
- 58:40Speaker 21: people don't realize how difficult it can be to lose
- 58:45Speaker 21: somebody in military service.
- 58:46Speaker 1: So well that one of these foundation does and I
- 58:50Speaker 1: appreciate it as the father of grandkids with the military. Dad, Gary,
- 58:55Speaker 1: we're going to go out with following in X album
- 58:58Speaker 1: Resurrection and Revival. Tell me a little bit about this.
- 59:01Speaker 1: You can bring up the music now, Adam, and let
- 59:03Speaker 1: Adam and let Gary talk us out.
- 59:08Speaker 21: Falling into You is a song I found a voice
- 59:13Speaker 21: memo from Max phone.
- 59:15Speaker 22: Wearing too miss melody awesome, and I thought it was
- 59:18Speaker 22: a great age, and so I brought it to one
- 59:21Speaker 22: of my band members, Dan Meyer, who had worked on
- 59:24Speaker 22: some other songs with Mark, and.
- 59:26Speaker 1: We created a beautiful.
- 59:28Speaker 3: Song called Falling into You.
- 59:31Speaker 5: And that's the melody right there that I heard Max
- 59:33Speaker 5: singing into his phone.
- 59:36Speaker 1: Well, we'll go out with that, and I'll remind everyone
- 59:41Speaker 1: there's the Resurrectuer Revival available soon at the garys of
- 59:44Speaker 1: East Foundation, where you can also direct contributions to help
- 59:48Speaker 1: our military service family insured in so many different ways
- 59:51Speaker 1: of serving hallways. Gary. Thanks, good to see you again, friend.
- 59:54Speaker 1: We'll talk in November. I can't wait to hear that
- 59:57Speaker 1: Cuntrent on the mall, betraying, accusing in may be, well,
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: don't go anywhere, Mr.
- 1:00:04Speaker 5: I'll be right now.
- 1:00:07Speaker 14: I'm that's so far pretending of the nasist.
- 1:00:12Speaker 5: Wherever the world is called that nobby full endy you