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- 1:54hello, my name is Christopher Renstrom, and I'm your weekly horoscope columnist here on Astrology Hub.
- 2:01And this week I wanted to talk to you about Mars entering the Zodiac sign of Virgo on July 10th.
- 2:10Mars, as you may already know, is the planet of gumption and drive.
- 2:14In astrology, it's the planet that if it sees something that it wants, it goes ahead and grows right on after it.
- 2:23So Mars is a striver and an arriver.
- 2:26It's the planet that's going to fight for what you want in your life.
- 2:30If you have a strong Mars, that Mars is gonna say, buck up.
- 2:34Don't be so demure and self deferential.
- 2:37Go stand at the head of the line where you belong.
- 2:40Mars's mission statement in astrology is to get you whatever you want.
- 2:46That's Mars working in a constructive or a positive way.
- 2:51Mars working in a negative way, can be very combative and can be very conflict ridden and in some regards even invite attack if you don't have a very strong or a very assertive Mars.
- 3:06So, uh, when we look at Mars traveling through a Zodiac sign, Mars is going to do two things.
- 3:13The first thing it's going to do is bring out the strengths that reside within that sign.
- 3:19For instance, if you're born under the Zodiac sign of Aquarius, and you may have very strong technical and maybe even scientific abilities, Mars is going to strengthen those faculties within the sign.
- 3:34The second thing that Mars can also do in a sign is that it will bring out the conflicts that are associated with that sign.
- 3:42A bit of a dilemma actually, if you think about it.
- 3:45The more that you assert yourself or Mars asserts itself by traveling through a zodiac sign, the more it's going to bring out conflicts, that are being expressed themselves in tandem with the assertion.
- 3:58For instance, Mars in Aries.
- 4:00We know that Mars in Aries is very, vigorous.
- 4:03It's very driven, it's very athletic.
- 4:06It will fight, uh, for what it wants.
- 4:09And so that can be a very good thing.
- 4:11But in fighting for what it wants, it's going to bring about conflict because maybe what it wants is what somebody else wants or whatever it's fighting for, to gain comes at the loss of someone else.
- 4:25The other thing to keep in mind about Mars and really the two malefics in general, Mars and Saturn, is that the malefics never know when to dial it back.
- 4:35Once they're set in a mode, they keep on going in that mode.
- 4:40Once Mars is, is, is driven and ready to fight for what it wants, it's not going to.
- 4:46Cool down or calm down even if it gets what it wants.
- 4:49There's still a part of it that, is charged up and, and, and, and going forward, Saturn has a tendency to withhold.
- 4:58And, keep something away.
- 5:01And so Saturn, once it starts doing that in an astrological chart or by transit, will work very strongly to, withhold something no matter what, one does to try to, wrangle it free of Saturn's grip.
- 5:15Saturn just never knows when to let up.
- 5:18Saturn.
- 5:19Believes that you can never be disciplined enough so the malefics have a hard time moderating, their, their impulses and, and part of what makes them maleic or can, what can make them very difficult to deal with.
- 5:35Is that they really don't know how to relax that effort.
- 5:38And that's why you have other planets to intervene and say like, Hey, Mars lighten up, or Saturn, maybe it's time to share.
- 5:45Okay.
- 5:46Th those, those sorts of things.
- 5:47Now, when we look at Mars entering a Zodiac sign, like Virgo, what you wanna do is really first look at the sign.
- 5:56Virgo we know is a Zodiac sign that's very much involved with women.
- 6:02And with women's issues and with women's rights, of all the 12 signs of the Zodiac, Virgo is the only Zodiac sign that is depicted as a woman.
- 6:15It can be questioned or debated that we don't really know the gender of the crab, the scorpion and the fish.
- 6:20But for the most part, Virgos pretty much the only Zodiac sign that depicts a woman.
- 6:26This is very important, because, Virgo rules over women, women's, uh, collectives, women's groups.
- 6:34Sisterhood, basically women who are doing it for themselves.
- 6:38And what it comes from is an earlier time in our society, when, uh, women were secondary, uh, in, in, in rank.
- 6:46And so, um, this idea of, or this question.
- 6:51How as a woman can you live in a man's world is very much an integral question and theme for the Zodiac sign of Virgo.
- 7:00Now one might think, okay, well I.
- 7:03Mars and Virgo is gonna be like, you know, unite and come together and let's protest and, you know, take back the night or something along those lines that is gonna be very aggressive and it's gonna be very err, you know, and all these sorts of things.
- 7:15But that's not really the way that Mars works in the Zodiac sign of Virgo.
- 7:21Because mostly, Virgo is a zodiac sign that doesn't really assert itself in a combative way.
- 7:28Virgos, uh, like the women that, that the sign, symbolizes, uh, tend to be more shrewd, working with, uh, the resources that are available to them, you are going to find strategies, you're gonna find other ways of getting what you want, so that you can avoid being carted off to jail, um, or, or knocked down where you stand, and you can actually win the game.
- 7:55And hopefully, if you're using your Virgo and Wits, you can hear that Mercury is the ruler of Virgo there.
- 8:01If you're using your Virgo and Wits, you can win a prize.
- 8:06Without an anyone ever knowing that you won it.
- 8:09Okay, so this is kind of the ultimate sort of Virgo and victory here.
- 8:14So Virgo is the Zodiac sign of women and women's bodies.
- 8:18It is the sign of work, health and service.
- 8:22Also, Virgo represents the working class.
- 8:26The people who don't really have much of a say in the way that things are done, but who are doing all the work nonetheless.
- 8:33When you think of labor and Virgo, it makes perfect sense because.
- 8:38Labor Day, for instance, is celebrated in the season of Virgo.
- 8:42So Virgo is the person that people are.
- 8:45Kind of take for granted, but wouldn't know what to do without, should they, I don't know, go on strike or walk out or not be available or decide not to take up jobs.
- 8:56Something that we're all, uh, confronted with nowadays in our society.
- 9:01So this reliance upon Virgo.
- 9:05Is something that Virgos deliberately cultivate.
- 9:09Uh, Virgo may not sit on the throne.
- 9:12Virgo may not rattle the sword.
- 9:14Virgo may not be like, what the hell do you think you're doing?
- 9:17Okay, uh uh, that sort of a thing.
- 9:20But Virgo will outwit, it will outthink and it will strategize.
- 9:26The other thing that's very important to Virgo is making itself indispensable.
- 9:32All Earth signs are afraid of being kicked to the side of the road.
- 9:35So this is something that's in the back of all earth signs.
- 9:38And so what's important for the Earth signs is to make themselves valuable through their work.
- 9:45And when you think of a servant and an employer, a servant, if they're very smart and good, make themselves so indispensable to an employer that the employer will never fire them.
- 9:57And in fact, the employer might even delegate certain responsibilities to the servant, so that they don't have to think about them or be bothered, by them.
- 10:06When you're also looking at.
- 10:08Uh, a sign like Virgo, you want to look at the element and the element of Virgo, of course, as I already mentioned, is earth.
- 10:16So the easy way to think of an earth sign is health and wealth.
- 10:20These are the two things that matter most to an earth sign.
- 10:24Earth signs are haunted by the question, how do I live in a world where everything ultimately falls apart?
- 10:32Which is why earth signs are so fixated on food, in the refrigerator, money in the bank, and a roof over their head and a bed to call their own.
- 10:42So, so that's part of the focus of the earth signs.
- 10:44The other focus of the earth signs, Virgo in particular, is that they are results oriented.
- 10:51All right.
- 10:52So earth science don't talk about what they're going to do one day.
- 10:55They don't like dream about how things could be if only this were different or if that were to happen.
- 11:01What earth signs really do is, put the shoulder to the wheel.
- 11:04And Earth Sign is very happy, so, When they get, um, something that is of value at the end of the day for their effort, something they can weigh in the palm of their hand, like money, or food or what, whatever has value to them, they can weigh it in the palm of their hands.
- 11:19At the end of the day, they're happy campers.
- 11:23So, so with a Mars in Virgo, there's gonna be a very strong emphasis on work, and there's gonna be a very strong emphasis on producing results.
- 11:35So, you know, winning the prize or winning the trophy, Mars in, in Virgo is going to be showing results.
- 11:43This is what I got done today.
- 11:45And, and particularly because Virgos are so in love with their to-do lists, uh, checking off every item of that to-do list and then end of the day, Victory.
- 11:55Okay.
- 11:55Um, that's a Mars and Virgo, they're going to be very, very happy with those results.
- 12:00The other thing, that we need to remember about a Zodiac sign when Mars is traveling through it.
- 12:05Is, what kind of a sign is it?
- 12:07Is it Cardinal fixed or mutable?
- 12:09Virgo we know is a mutable sign.
- 12:11What that means is it's adaptable.
- 12:14it doesn't have just one idea and I have to pursue it and achieve it, you know, and, and, and get it at the end no matter what.
- 12:22it doesn't have an, an inflexible stance.
- 12:25Meaning that they will work with the circumstances or the situation as it unfolds.
- 12:31This is what makes a sign like Virgo, for instance, very improvisational.
- 12:35We're not kind of used to thinking of Virgo as being improvisational.
- 12:39It's very improvisational.
- 12:41It's a mercury ruled sign.
- 12:43So like it's sibling sign, Gemini, Virgos think of their feet and they're always working with what's what they have there in front of them.
- 12:52So when you've got a Mars in Virgo, that's.
- 12:55Adaptable where Mars sometimes can get very focused, like a heat seeking missile on hitting its target.
- 13:03A Mars and Virgo is able to be like, you know what?
- 13:06This isn't working.
- 13:07Let me try a different avenue.
- 13:09Okay.
- 13:09So a Mars and Virgo is willing to try on different modes or try out different approaches in order to get what it wants.
- 13:19That kind of lends a multitasking, um, aspect to the Mars and Virgo that you might not see in other, uh, signs that Mars is traveling through.
- 13:31The other thing to remember with Virgo is that it is ruled by the planet Mercury.
- 13:35Which rules the mind.
- 13:37And so, um, so as I said, there's a cleverness, there's a shrewdness, there's, um, a guile, there's a while, um, that can work with the Mars in, in Virgo.
- 13:51Um, and, and again, what makes, uh, Mars in Virgo different from, for instance, Mars and Gemini?
- 13:57Is that first of all, Mars and Virgo is pretty much gonna do it by themselves, whereas Mars and Gemini might work with someone else.
- 14:04The other thing is that the Mars in Virgo is, is results oriented.
- 14:09We can also add to it a sort of efficiency and economy in its actions.
- 14:15It wants to reduce, uh, the strategy to the basic points that you need, and it's not really interested in questioning, uh, this or that as much as it is.
- 14:26If this part of the equation isn't working, what can I substitute it with?
- 14:30All right.
- 14:31So, so that's very much, um, a Mars and Virgo.
- 14:34You can almost think of a Mars and Virgo as a contestant on.
- 14:38On one of those baking shows where it's not going as planned with the recipe, and then they have to improvise on the spot and make something of the disaster that's unfolding.
- 14:47That's very much a Mars in Virgo.
- 14:49And not only do they make something of that disaster, they might even improve on what the original game plan was.
- 14:57A Mars, in Virgo is always ready for a fight.
- 15:00Now that doesn't mean it's looking for a fight, what it means is that it's ready to fight.
- 15:07All right?
- 15:07If it has to.
- 15:09So with the Mars and Virgo, if you combine it with the idea of Virgo, which is always.
- 15:16Sizing up what the possibilities and the resources and what's available and how to use it, uh, with Mars, uh, which can be combative, but Mars and Virgo doesn't go into a fight unprepared, it's thought out ahead of time how this fight or conflict is, uh, going to be resolved.
- 15:34And so there's, again, I've been using that word strategy, a strategic element to the Mars and Virgo.
- 15:41What we need to remember with the Mars and Virgo is that, um, Virgo for instance, because it's Mercury ruled, can have a lot of restless or nervous energy and so, that can make the Mars a bit more.
- 15:55Hyper, for lack of a better word, or a bit more nervous, you know, um, maybe even abrupt or, or, or, uh, as I was saying, malefics have, have a hard time gauging themselves.
- 16:06Uh, it can make it very, you know, talk very fast or move very faster, faster.
- 16:10Act very fast.
- 16:11And so what you may really see, uh, with the Mars and Virgo, organizing its space or organizing its office or desk or closets or whatever is its way of centering itself.
- 16:23It's its way of managing a lot of that sort of mental stress or duress that, that, that can get out.
- 16:30And it needs to be mentally engaged because if it's not, It can wind up creating a lot of trouble for itself.
- 16:39Um, it can, it can, it can overthink, it can put something together, find something wrong with it, take it apart, put it back together, find something wrong, take it apart, you know, it's almost like it's scratching itself or, or whatever that, that it needs to be engaged or it can get destructive I wanted to sort of circle back here and, and.
- 17:00Talk about this, this image of women and Mars and work and something that, comes to my mind whenever I think of, Mars and Virgo, especially because Mars is named after the Roman God of war.
- 17:16I think of Rosie the Riveter.
- 17:18And Rosie the Riveter, in case you're not familiar with her, was this kind of like, I think it was Westinghouse that put out this ad, but, but it's the woman.
- 17:26Flexing her muscle, and she's wearing a bandana and a jeans, overalls.
- 17:30And basically during World War ii, many men went off to fight the war.
- 17:35They were soldiers in the war, but then there was no one to really run the factories or to be working on the assembly lines.
- 17:43And so women, mostly middle class women, but it was actually women from all ethnicities and all backgrounds.
- 17:51Came and worked, uh, in the war factories, and they kept those factories going.
- 17:56I mean, America would not have been able to do what it did in World Wari if it hadn't had the Roy, the Riveters, you know, women who were in the assembly lines were putting together the different parts of an airplane or tank, or.
- 18:10Guns or whatever, munitions or whatever was being shipped off, so this was a very different image from, nurses, for instance.
- 18:19These were women who were, who were going into the factory and taking over the, the positions of men.
- 18:24Now the myth was that when, men returned from the war that the women had lost their jobs, even happily given up their jobs and returned home to be happy homemakers and become the June cleavers of all 1950s sitcoms or something along those lines.
- 18:40But that's not what really happened.
- 18:42The reality is that the number of working women never again fell to pre-war levels.
- 18:49In other words, the women stayed employed.
- 18:53They were housewives and they were working at the factories and, and.
- 18:58There's no loss of those numbers that is shown statistically.
- 19:02And this comes from the Library of Congress.
- 19:05So the recognition that middle class married women could work and run a home was significant.
- 19:12Now, of course, poorer women had been doing this all their lives.
- 19:16This was nothing new for them.
- 19:18But this is something that really brought in the, the largest swath of, of women and.
- 19:25Without being a big deal, it changed the economic landscape of United States of America coming out of World War ii.
- 19:36A lot of people feel like that had planted the seeds for the second wave of feminism, you know, in the sixties and things like that.
- 19:43But no, those adjustments had already been made in the workplace.
- 19:47Now again, These weren't, women who were being CEOs of companies or something along those lines, but these were women in the factories and women who were working on the assembly lines.
- 19:58And when you remember, Mars is associated to metal and to war and to factories and working with metal and metal works, Rosie the Riveter becomes quite a compelling image.
- 20:10Now I wanna share with you this quote.
- 20:12This quote comes from Rosie the Riveter, a woman who was working in the munitions factories, during World War ii.
- 20:19And it comes from the Library of Congress.
- 20:21And she says, quote, My mother warned me when I took the job that I would never be the same again.
- 20:28She said, you will never want to go back to being a housewife.
- 20:33At that time, I didn't think it would change a thing, but she was right.
- 20:38It definitely did.
- 20:40At Boeing, I found a freedom and an independence that I had never known before.
- 20:46After the war, I could never go back to playing bridge again.
- 20:50Being a club woman.
- 20:51When I knew there were things you could use your mind for the war.
- 20:56Changed my life completely, I guess you could say.
- 20:59At 31, I finally grew up, and then here's another quote.
- 21:05You came out to California, you put on your pants and took your lunch pale to a man's job.
- 21:11That was the beginning of a woman's feeling that they could do something more.
- 21:17I wanted to share with you this example because it's Mars coming into the Zodiac sign of Virgo.
- 21:22It's a woman's sign and making these women feel empowered, but also, you know, putting them to work.
- 21:30And once there's this, this, this sense of work, this sense of camaraderie.
- 21:36Not wanting to go back to these pigeonholed existences in suburbia and wanting to be of use and obviously wanting to make their own money, at the same time.
- 21:47So with with Mars and Virgo, uh, It, it, it can make you feel or, or see yourself as serving.
- 21:55Mars and Virgo is kind of a soldierly placement.
- 21:59Uh, we, we kind of think like, oh, maybe that should be Mars and Aries or Mars and Leo or something like that.
- 22:04It's so, it's a soldier's placement because of the regimental quality of it.
- 22:09Virgo is very rank and file.
- 22:11It's very ordered.
- 22:13There's a regimen to, to be followed.
- 22:16And so with Mars and Virgo, if you have it in your chart, or you may be experiencing this with the transit, um, you see yourself as serving.
- 22:25Um, and, and, and you feel yourself like this, it, it's a humility of service, of course, but it's also the importance of obeying orders and that that being, um, a very important thing.
- 22:38So, So if you have, for instance, Mars and Virgo in your chart Naly, you will often, perform better.
- 22:45When there is a regiment or when there is a structure.
- 22:49So if someone gives you an order or someone gives you an assignment or someone gives you a task, That's delightful to someone with Mars and Virgo, then you know what to do and you will go and you will execute that task to the best of your, to the best of your ability.
- 23:03And if you have Mars and Virgo, your ability is probably better than most, but what I've also seen show up with people who have Mars and Virgo, Natalie.
- 23:12Is that they will often perform the task better than what was originally ordered they go beyond the call of duty or the excellence of their work is so good.
- 23:26That it was better than what the superior had in mind, and that perfectionism is very much associated to a Mars and Virgo.
- 23:33But that perfectionism can also become a bit unsettling, when you show off, in your excellence of work.
- 23:42That you know, the work better than the superior does, and that your sense of how it could be done is, is, uh, superior to the superiors.
- 23:52And this is why bosses and employers are very fortunate that people who have Mars and Virgo are very obedient.
- 24:00There's no.
- 24:02Very strong need to take over.
- 24:05They want the security of the job or the routine to do what they do.
- 24:10That doesn't mean that they always stay down.
- 24:13They find ways to push the envelope and usually without the manager or the superior or the client or the person in charge, knowing.
- 24:23For someone with a Mars and Virgo, if a client says, that's better than I thought it could be, that's really, wow, that's really impressive.
- 24:28Let's go with that.
- 24:30The Mars and Virgo is winning that recognition, but also winning that ability to make something better.
- 24:37By showing what they can do, rather than saying, I can make it better, or, you don't know how to do this, Mars and Virgo is gonna do it through the work.
- 24:45Let the work speak for itself.
- 24:47And then very subtly push a client's idea of what a project should be, or an assignment is more in the direction that the Mars and Virgo person has in mind.
- 24:57Again, without ever confronting or making the person feel, uh, feel bad.
- 25:04The other thing that we see with Mars and Virgo that you may experience by transit as well.
- 25:09As a real earnest, motive to help people to help themselves.
- 25:13Virgo is a very self-sufficient, Zodiac sign.
- 25:17All the earth signs strive to be, but with Virgo it's important, because it's coming from the history of women in Western civilization.
- 25:26The more that you could be self-sufficient or accountable to yourself and not beholden to, someone.
- 25:32The more that you could, uh, put that in your corner or, or be self-sufficient, the better off things would be for you.
- 25:41So, so a Mars and Virgo is very much about helping people to help themselves.
- 25:46Like Aries, there's a coach quality to it or a training quality to it.
- 25:51And Mars and Virgo, of course.
- 25:54Because of its association with laborers and the underclass is all about championing the underdog.
- 26:01I think it's fascinating.
- 26:02Mother Teresa.
- 26:04Had her son and Mars in Virgo and this is someone who was famous for her street ministries.
- 26:12She lived basically on the streets with the poor and administered to the poor, showing them how they could.
- 26:22Help themselves.
- 26:22She wasn't just doling out, you know, food and things like this.
- 26:25She, she went to, uh, the, the poor who were on the streets, the disenfranchised, and she helped them to help themselves.
- 26:35That was her ministry.
- 26:36It was very one-on-one, very with someone showing someone how they could better themselves or improve their life circumstances.
- 26:45And that comes from Mercury, the ruler of Virgo.
- 26:48Was the God who was referred to as being the companion to man.
- 26:52Uh, we know it as Mercury helps you get from here to there.
- 26:55It's the deity that if you were to meet it on the street and ask directions, it would show you where to go.
- 27:01But the companion to man is that me Mercury.
- 27:05In his activities that he performed.
- 27:08He was always on earth.
- 27:09He was always in the market.
- 27:11He was always with people.
- 27:13And so where other gods were in their temples or their art al alters or sacred groves, you could bump into mercury on the street.
- 27:21So that companionable quality is very much something you see in Virgo and you also see in the sibling sign of, of Gemini, before I wrap.
- 27:31I wanna talk to you about an upcoming opposition.
- 27:35This is when Mars in Virgo poses Saturn, in Pisces on July 20th.
- 27:40This is a pretty significant opposition that's going to be taking place between the two planets.
- 27:46And I wanted to break that down very quickly in opposition.
- 27:50Isn't about balancing energies, okay?
- 27:53When, when one planet is opposed another planet in the chart, there's no balancing or even reconciliation that's going to take place.
- 28:01They are polarized.
- 28:02They are in opposite.
- 28:04Corners or sides of the chart.
- 28:06Best example that I like to use is the current state of our, Congress, right?
- 28:12People say, well, hopefully we can find something bipartisan, but it's, uh, it's very rarely bipartisan.
- 28:17I mean, the Republicans are the Republicans in this corner, and the Democrats are the Democrats in this corner, and there will be no there, there will be no budging.
- 28:25There will be no bridge building.
- 28:27That takes place.
- 28:29So, so basically, this is how an opposition works.
- 28:32They're not inclined to help one another out, and they're not inclined to have anything to do with one another.
- 28:37So an opposition by transit, like for instance, when you have, Mars and Virgo opposing, Saturn and Pisces, and what I mean by transit is that's where they're, they are in the sky right now.
- 28:50An opposition more often than not by transit, will bring an ending or something to an end.
- 28:54It's literally, you can see a line of summation being drawn and the numbers added up, and this is the conclusion.
- 29:02It can be like, ah, We got to the other side of this project, an assignment, and, and it's out of our hands now.
- 29:09We, we've done our part, now it's in the hands of someone else, a superior or a client or something along those lines.
- 29:15Or it can be like, I've done everything that I could possibly do to keep this relationship going, and, and you've done everything that you could do to keep this relationship going, and maybe we're just not meant to be in this relationship and we should go our separate ways.
- 29:29It is an important distinction because with a square you still have a dog in the fight.
- 29:33You know, you're still fighting to, you may be making one another, other's lives, li miserable or something, but you're still fighting to, win or to accomplish or to collaborate or something with an opposition.
- 29:46There's no fight.
- 29:47It's just, uh, there, there's no budging from these opposite corners.
- 29:51There's no budging from these opposite positions.
- 29:54The dynamic of the opposition.
- 29:57It is gonna be, Mars is all about pushing.
- 30:01So Mars and Virgo is going to push for something that it wants.
- 30:04And Saturn in Pisces, Saturn is all about withholding.
- 30:09Or withdrawing.
- 30:11Okay?
- 30:12So the more that you, you know, push a Saturn, you know, Hey, I want this.
- 30:17The more Saturn withdraws or withholds, you're not going to get this.
- 30:21And so what can happen and what you may feel around this July 20th opposition, or in the days building up to it, is that the more that you push for something that you want from someone else, the more that that person withholds it from you.
- 30:36And of course, the more that that person withholds it from you, the more you're going to push.
- 30:41And you could be one of the two sides of this equation.
- 30:43You might be the person who's pushing and the other person's withholding, or you might be the person who's withholding, so this can be the way that the opposition plays out what happens in an opposition in your chart, natally.
- 30:54And it can even happen by transit.
- 30:57You can only play one of the two roles of these two planets, okay?
- 31:02So if you're the one who's pushing, you're the one who's pushing, the other one is withholding.
- 31:06Let's say you're like, okay, now I'm gonna like walk over and be the one who's withholding.
- 31:11Then you will attract someone who's pushing.
- 31:13Okay?
- 31:14So the way that an opposition works is you're one, one or the other.
- 31:19Okay, so either you're represented as one planet in the opposition and the, and the, um, other is represented as the other planet in the opposition.
- 31:28Or you can swing like a pendulum between the two placements, especially if you have it natally.
- 31:34You might be Mars, for a little while, and then you switch to the Saturn.
- 31:38You might be Saturn for a little while, and then you switch to the Mars, so there's no bridge.
- 31:44That's being worked out here.
- 31:46There's no common ground, there's no bipartisan ship in a true opposition.
- 31:52And what I mean by a true opposition is that there are no aspects in the NATO chart that are helping it out.
- 31:58Like for instance, with a sex tile or a trying, you may feel, for instance, if you're feeling the Mars and Virgo, is that you may feel like you're trying to help.
- 32:08Someone to help themselves like you're trying to fix a problem and that the more you try to fix the problem, the person on the opposite end of the seesaw from you, and I want you to think.
- 32:21Of an opposition between planets as being kind of a seesaw.
- 32:24Okay?
- 32:24You need someone in each one at the seats or you know, it crashes.
- 32:27Okay?
- 32:28So, so the more that you push or you're trying to help someone to help themselves, or you're trying to figure out a solution, the more the other person's going to be the Saturn and Pisces, which is, you can't fix it.
- 32:40Nothing can be done here.
- 32:42And so you can see where that would make the Mars and Virgo very, you know, like, yes, it can.
- 32:46And let me figure out an approach or another approach or another way of handling this.
- 32:50I, I have to be able to.
- 32:52So on one hand, it's very thwarting and it's very frustrating to have someone like, It can't be solved.
- 33:00It can't be helped.
- 33:01I'm sorry.
- 33:02But then on the other hand, it could also be very motivating.
- 33:06This is a, uh, Mars and Virgo, which is stimulated by a problem.
- 33:10You know, Virgos believe that all problems can be solved.
- 33:13You know, feces doesn't necessarily believe that all problems can be solved.
- 33:18and I'm not saying that there's a helplessness to Pisces.
- 33:20There isn't, but Pisces is comfortable with a problem being a problem, and that perhaps the illumination is in the problem or that we must live with.
- 33:32This problem or this burden, or this difficulty.
- 33:36Not all Pisces are like this.
- 33:38That isn't the whole, uh, part of Pisces that's gonna come out.
- 33:41It is a part of Pisces that's going to come out when you have Saturn in Pisces, okay?
- 33:47So with Saturn and Pisces, which lends itself to a depressed energy or depression, you have on one hand what could be a very nervous, frenetic.
- 33:57Virgo, Mars and Virgo, and then you can have a depressed, and almost feeling of helplessness with the Saturn in Pisces.
- 34:07And again, you can switch between the two.
- 34:09You might be very frenetic one day and then depressed and like helpless the next, and then frenetic and back on your feet one day.
- 34:15That's if you have it natally in your chart or that might be what you're experiencing in a relationship or an association or a friendship or just with a, a dilemma.
- 34:25Okay.
- 34:26So the, the Saturn and Pisces side is like, Well, you know, I keep picking holes in, in the person's argument and finding the things that are wrong and why they can't do this.
- 34:38But maybe something can be done, you know?
- 34:41So, so the more that the demands are made, um, on the Saturn and Pisces or, or, or the person keeps coming back to the Saturn and Pisces with like, well, let's try this.
- 34:50Let's try that.
- 34:51Let's, let's try this.
- 34:53Saturn and Pisces like, no, no, can't be helped.
- 34:56Can't be done.
- 34:57But Saturn and Pisces might also at the same time be like, well, maybe.
- 35:01Maybe something could happen.
- 35:04You know, they, they start to imagine, or they start to visualize how, how something could be.
- 35:10So, so even though the two planets in opposition aren't going to find a common ground, they are having an impact on, uh, one another.
- 35:21But the Saturn and Pisces, the message can be with Saturn and Pisces.
- 35:25What do you do with something, you know, what do you do with the situation if it can't?
- 35:31Be helped.
- 35:33You know, remember Mars and Fargo is gonna be like, it can be helped, A problem can be solved, but Saturn and Pisces is, is naturally going to be more profound.
- 35:42Like what do you do with the situation if it can't be helped?
- 35:47What do you do with a problem if it can't be?
- 35:50Solved.
- 35:51And that doesn't mean, you know, you accept it.
- 35:54Although there, there, there can be, there can be like, okay, we have to accept this as a condition.
- 35:58You know, like, maybe I have a chronic pain or something and I have to live with this and I have to accept that, you know, as something that I weave into my life.
- 36:06So there can be an acceptance that can come through that, but there can also be a patience.
- 36:12Uh, there can also be a willingness to let something.
- 36:17B, or to let life unfold, to let developments unfold and maybe, you know, find a way to live with it.
- 36:25Or maybe they do lead to something, but it's gonna be outside of the frenetic pace of solving a problem with all the, speed and rapidity of being on a game show.
- 36:35So, a Saturn and Pisces has a tendency to see things, more.
- 36:39Deeply, than a Mars and Virgo.
- 36:42Mars and Virgo.
- 36:42You wanna think of sort, sort of almost as a stopwatch, they've got X amount of time to do this, okay.
- 36:47And Saturday and Pisces can step outside and be like, we've got all the time in the world to do this.
- 36:52And it can reflect.
- 36:54It can contemplate, it can really sit with a matter.
- 36:58It may even transform a matter from being a problem or a mistake, into something that is a lesson or, or illuminating an experience that is illuminating things that happen when you take it outside the, uh, structure of a problem that needs to be solved.
- 37:16This is where.
- 37:18You have a very different way of looking at problems, uh, from the point of view of a Saturn in Pisces.
- 37:25Remember, Pisces is the mystic.
- 37:28And so it's more with the idea of contemplation or really sitting with something for, for a long time and seeing what emerges on its own or through, through reflection.
- 37:39Nevertheless, this opposition between Mars and Saturn isn't fixed.
- 37:45In other words, The planets are moving in the sky.
- 37:49And this is what you always wanna look for.
- 37:51When you have oppositions, even in your own chart, they don't stay there because planets are always in motion in the sky.
- 37:57And so they're always forming sex tiles or tryings ways that can work as outlets or as channels or as redirections for that energy in your chart.
- 38:08And the same is going to be true of this by transit.
- 38:11There will be three.
- 38:13Opportunities to bridge this gap, between Mars and Saturn and, those opportunities.
- 38:20Actually the best one, the best one will occur on August 1st, and that is when Mars and Virgo forms of trying to Jupiter and Taurus, that's the best.
- 38:31Planetary transit because the rine breaks up the opposition.
- 38:35Jupiter also happens to rule, Saturn, Pisces, which is opposing the Mars.
- 38:40And so, August 1st might be really, really good, for finding your way around what feels like an impossible situation May provide, the means of either looking at it, Differently or finding a way around or maybe even help from, from a distant quarter.
- 38:57Your two other really good times are going to be, August 16th when Mars tris Uranus.
- 39:03That's very inventive.
- 39:04And August 24th when Mars, forms a trying to Pluto retrograde in Capricorn, that's probably when.
- 39:12Whatever dilemma you may be facing, the standoff that you're facing, it's probably going to be ultimately resolved.
- 39:19On August 24th when Mars forms, it's trying to Pluto retrograde in Capricorn.
- 39:25And so there you have it.
- 39:27Things to think about.
- 39:29While Mars is in the Zodiac sign of Virgo from July 10th until August 27th.