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Missing people & silent suspects - The cases of mom Joleen Cummings & little Owen Hidalgo-Cameron · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: HIM Triumph Channel one thirty two. Before you head to
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  Speaker 1: your local hair salon, think twice. Right now, we are
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  Speaker 1: on the trail of a gorgeous young missing mom, Joelane
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  Speaker 1: Jensen Cummings has two little boys, hasn't been saying or
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  Speaker 1: heard from since she left work at Tangles Beauty Salon.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for
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  Speaker 1: being with us, and the plot seems to thicken. Joining
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  Speaker 1: me right now, Lee Agan, investigative reporter with Crime Online
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  Speaker 1: dot Com. Lee, please explain to me why a salon
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  Speaker 1: coworker is revealed to have an assumed identity and right
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  Speaker 1: now police are zeroing in on another hair dresser. What
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  Speaker 1: that is, correct, Nancy? And what's going on with Kimberly Kessler,
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  Speaker 1: which is her real name? Is that she's had eighteen
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  Speaker 1: different identities over the pat since Now wait a minute,
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  Speaker 1: clears something up, formula. When you say Kimberly Kessler has
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  Speaker 1: had all these various identities, your Kimberly Kessler is not
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  Speaker 1: the missing the lady, the missing woman, the mother of
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  Speaker 1: two little boys. Is wow, she's pretty, she's perfect. She
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  Speaker 1: works at a salon, Her hair is perfect, her face
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  Speaker 1: is perfect, everything about her is perfect. Jolene Jensen Cummings
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  Speaker 1: is a young mom who disappears. Last time she was
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  Speaker 1: seen was it Tangles Beauty salon Julie, Florida. Now this
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  Speaker 1: woman has all these identities eighteen whoa, Now that's her
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  Speaker 1: co worker who also works at the salon. Right, that's correct,
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  Speaker 1: And please say that Kessler has also had numerous different
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  Speaker 1: job titles over the years. She was a truck driver
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  Speaker 1: at one time, worked in restaurants, um, different hair solids
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  Speaker 1: at different salons. And they think she has something going on,
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  Speaker 1: um where she's using these jobs as a cover. Well,
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  Speaker 1: hold on, Lee Agan, Uh, you could say that about
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  Speaker 1: me too. I've been a receptionist at an office, worked
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  Speaker 1: at a sandwich shop where I had the the the
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  Speaker 1: awesome task of cleaning the bathrooms and mopping the floors
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  Speaker 1: every night. I mean, Dr Daniel Bober is with me
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  Speaker 1: forensic psychiatrists. Last. I look, having a long series of
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  Speaker 1: different jobs is not a felony. So what what does
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  Speaker 1: it matter that this woman, this coworker has all these jobs?
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  Speaker 1: Dr Bober? You know it's interesting, Nancy. Um, this is
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  Speaker 1: my only job. It's the only thing I really know
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  Speaker 1: how to do. But you know, one of the thing
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  Speaker 1: never did anything else in college. Yeah, I worked in
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  Speaker 1: a pharmacy. I was at TechEd. Okay, So I mean
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  Speaker 1: you mean you worked with drugs. Yes, I did. See.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you can make anything look bad if you
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  Speaker 1: want to, that right. That probably doesn't surprise you that
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  Speaker 1: I worked with drugs. But Nancy, you know, there's something
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  Speaker 1: called the Psychopathy Checklist, which is actually a measure that
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  Speaker 1: we used to measure psychopathy. There's our psychopaths and one
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  Speaker 1: of the things they look at our our job changes.
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  Speaker 1: People that have multiple job changes are are known to
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  Speaker 1: be unstable and more. It's one factor that we look
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  Speaker 1: at with people who are psycho paths. Not that I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying that this woman is a psychopath, but multiple job
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  Speaker 1: changes on someone's resume is usually a red flag, especially
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  Speaker 1: if they're for a very short duration. Okay, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: take your word for it, because you're the forensic psychiatrist,
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  Speaker 1: not me, guys, f y I psychiatrist. That means he's
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  Speaker 1: got an m D. A medical degree. I al your
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  Speaker 1: doctor plus uh an additional degree in psychiatry. Okay, Lee Egan.
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  Speaker 1: Enough about Dr Daniel Bober and his pristine work record
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  Speaker 1: and his resume. Let's get back to this coworker with
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  Speaker 1: eighteen aliases. Now that's a problem. Cheryl McCallum, director of
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  Speaker 1: the Cold Case Research Institute. You know how much I
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  Speaker 1: used to love it, love with a capital L, when
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  Speaker 1: I would be trying a defendant and when I would
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  Speaker 1: introduce him to the jury. Oh the drama. Cheryl McCollum,
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  Speaker 1: a k A. Also known as Cheryl Green, also known
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  Speaker 1: as Blah Blah blah, and go through every single alias,
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  Speaker 1: and I make sure that they were indicted with every
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  Speaker 1: single alias on the front of the indictment because I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know why, but I knew there was something wrong
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  Speaker 1: with that. I mean technically, like Dr Daniel Bober has
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  Speaker 1: a psychiatric explanation of why that's wrong. Okay, I just
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  Speaker 1: knew you instinctively it was wrong, and I'm sure the
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  Speaker 1: jury did too. Weigh in the best way to hide
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  Speaker 1: You change your name, You change everything about you. People
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  Speaker 1: are not gonna be able to locate you if your
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  Speaker 1: name is different. So this woman has eighteen different aliases,
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  Speaker 1: but she's also moved from state to state to state.
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  Speaker 1: She has jobs where they don't do a deep background check,
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  Speaker 1: so you walk in the salon, they pretty much hire
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  Speaker 1: you the same day you come in. If they're desperate,
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  Speaker 1: they don't know who you are. So this woman literally
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  Speaker 1: has been hiding in plain type back to Lee Egan
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  Speaker 1: and investigative reporter with Crime online dot Com. Okay, Le,
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  Speaker 1: sorry about the detour. Pick it up. The thing is,
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  Speaker 1: when she had these different jobs, she would change her
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  Speaker 1: name each and every time. She never kept the same name.
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  Speaker 1: And that's where red flag that the police picked up on.
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  Speaker 1: And for some reason they there's are they think there
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  Speaker 1: is a reason that she keeps changing her name. She's
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  Speaker 1: hiding something. What we know right now is that this
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  Speaker 1: gorgeous young mom of two boys, joelne jess And Cummings,
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  Speaker 1: has disappeared. Last seen at Tangles Hair Salon in Yulie, Florida,
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  Speaker 1: Lee Aigan Crime online dot Com reporter, when was the
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  Speaker 1: last time she was saying She was last seen on
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  Speaker 1: May thirteen. She was supposed to pick up her children
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  Speaker 1: and she did not show up. Obviously raised the red
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  Speaker 1: flag with all of her family because she is very
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  Speaker 1: much a hands on mother and she spends a lot
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  Speaker 1: of time with them. She separated from the children's father
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  Speaker 1: and she was supposed to meet him at a parking
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  Speaker 1: lot to pick them up, and she did not show up,
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  Speaker 1: Sheryl mccollumn, director of the Cold Case Research Institute. The
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  Speaker 1: parking lot, you know, I'm right in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: writing a nonfiction book about how to stay safe in
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  Speaker 1: a world of crime. Parking lots are you know. We
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  Speaker 1: we have to live with them. They're a known danger,
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  Speaker 1: but a parking lot presents a whole unique set of danger,
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  Speaker 1: explained Nancy. There's a lot of coverage for people to hide,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's under your car, beside your car, or frankly
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  Speaker 1: in your car. Um So the parking lot a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times you're distracted, whether you have packages, or your
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  Speaker 1: woman's in for your keys, or you're trying to maneuver,
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  Speaker 1: you know, several children. A lot of times we're not
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  Speaker 1: paying attention walking to our car. We feel very safe,
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  Speaker 1: so we're just distracted and thinking about other things, and
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  Speaker 1: somebody can pop up in a in a moment and
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  Speaker 1: brandish a weapon and get us to get into our
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  Speaker 1: car with them. You know what's interesting, Chryl McCollum. Everyone
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  Speaker 1: with me, Righttor of the Cold Case Research Institute, Cheryl.
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  Speaker 1: Another thing about parking garages, specifically, if the perp knows
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  Speaker 1: the victim, that means they know you're coming. You're the
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  Speaker 1: person coming back to this particular car. If they know
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  Speaker 1: that much, they probably know what time you're coming back
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  Speaker 1: to the car. For instance, many many times, as you
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  Speaker 1: will recall, when I was prosecuting, I would go out
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  Speaker 1: take and then it was polaroid pictures of crime scenes
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  Speaker 1: and do my own investigation. I come up to the courthouse.
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  Speaker 1: If it was a regular day, anybody would know what time.
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  Speaker 1: Generally I would come back to the car, usually in
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  Speaker 1: the dark. When I would get back, so many times
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  Speaker 1: my car would be had the windows bashed out and
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  Speaker 1: I'd have a tire slit everybody. If you're looking for
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  Speaker 1: a particular person, you know when they're coming back to
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  Speaker 1: the car, you know how much time you have, or
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  Speaker 1: you know when to be there to lay in wait
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  Speaker 1: to ambush them. So that's a whole another set of
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  Speaker 1: danger regarding parking launch Cheryl McCollum. It is in Nancy.
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  Speaker 1: Also with a co worker. Here's the reality. If somebody
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  Speaker 1: walks up to you that you work with and say,
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  Speaker 1: oh my word, my car won't start, the batteries dead.
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  Speaker 1: Can you give me a ride to pet boys or
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  Speaker 1: can you give me a ride to the gas station.
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  Speaker 1: He wouldn't think twice to allow a co worker inside
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  Speaker 1: your car to give them a short ride somewhere. Back
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  Speaker 1: to Lee Egan, Crime Online dot Com reporter. So once
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  Speaker 1: she goes missing and doesn't pick up her children, I think,
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  Speaker 1: actually it's two boys and a girl, Lee Egan, when
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't show up to to pick them up. You know,
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  Speaker 1: after work, does the family here from her? Do they
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  Speaker 1: get a text message, a phone call, anything? Absolutely nothing
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  Speaker 1: at all, radio silence. I've heard nothing from her since
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  Speaker 1: that day. I'm taking a look at this right now.
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  Speaker 1: Dr Daniel Bober Forensics like HIH is with me along
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  Speaker 1: with investigative reporter Lee Egan and Cold Case Research Institute
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  Speaker 1: Director Cheryl McCullum. I'm looking at it, and this is
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  Speaker 1: just like every center you go to. There's um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: where there are four or so anchors with the tall tower.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a little village. And then around it are
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  Speaker 1: others tangles Here, Salon, They're they're all over the country.
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  Speaker 1: On one side is Dick's Wings and Grill. On the
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  Speaker 1: other side is Game Over, video games and more. And
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  Speaker 1: in the center the anchor is tangles Here Salon, clearly
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  Speaker 1: bringing in the most business. You know, in that scenario,
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  Speaker 1: Cheryl McCullum could have been anybody. I would look at
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  Speaker 1: the customers all, not not necessarily women, but I first
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  Speaker 1: look at guys. I look at the ex boyfriend, the
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  Speaker 1: ex husband, if you know, if there are any, the
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  Speaker 1: current love interests, if there are any. I would look
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  Speaker 1: at all of the customers that she had dealt with
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  Speaker 1: that day, particularly the men, only because statistically they're more
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  Speaker 1: likely to have kidnapped her or harmed her. Then I
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  Speaker 1: would look at delivery people. I would look at the
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  Speaker 1: people that worked on either side of her where she
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  Speaker 1: went for a lunch that day? Did she go to
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  Speaker 1: a Jersey Mice? Did she go to a Subways? Did
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  Speaker 1: she go to Taco Bell? Who was there? Get surveillance video?
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  Speaker 1: That's the route I would first take. So what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: in a in a shopping center like this, Sheryl McCallum,
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  Speaker 1: it could be anybody, you cast that net as wide
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  Speaker 1: as you can, because it absolutely could be anybody. But
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  Speaker 1: there's no doubt with an ex if she's supposed to
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  Speaker 1: meet them to exchange the children, you've got to look
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  Speaker 1: at that person. So you're gonna maybe waste some time,
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  Speaker 1: But that's that's a go to. That's what a one.
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  Speaker 1: What about it? To Dr Daniel Bober, I agree, Nancy.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think you have absolutely cast a wide net.
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  Speaker 1: And like you said, the ex lovers, I mean those
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  Speaker 1: are more likely to be um the purp. And you
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  Speaker 1: also you have to look at things like credit card receipts.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you have to really cover all your bases.
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  Speaker 1: After all of this, you know, we have to go
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  Speaker 1: back to you know, there's all the technological advances, like
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  Speaker 1: all of the recording videos, the surveillance cameras that you
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  Speaker 1: have in a shopping center or in a store like Tangles,
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  Speaker 1: you know, trained on the cash register. But there's also
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  Speaker 1: always have you ever driven Alan Duke joining me out
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  Speaker 1: of l a Jackie Howard here in the studio, Alan,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when you drive behind a shopping strip mall
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  Speaker 1: or a mall or a Kroger or whatever publics, there's
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  Speaker 1: the back entry. There's always an alley way in the
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  Speaker 1: back for deliveries. Employees park in the back. That's a
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  Speaker 1: lot less noticeable than the overt front parking lot. Anything
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  Speaker 1: can go down in that back alley. Yea. And I
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  Speaker 1: think these days, though, there are a lot of cameras
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  Speaker 1: back there because that's where things do go down. So
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  Speaker 1: they watch it. Yeah, they watch it, but the camera
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  Speaker 1: doesn't stop the crime. I think we can all agree
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  Speaker 1: on that. Luckily, he's right, there are cameras back there.
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  Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is throwing that wide net is
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  Speaker 1: so important. But off surveillance cameras for just one moment
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  Speaker 1: and back to regular detective work, the old fashioned way.
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen to this about the ex boyfriend. Is
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  Speaker 1: there any way your son could be involved with her disappearance?
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  Speaker 1: So I had nothing to do with that girl's disappearance.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he come out here Wednesday. He's been with
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  Speaker 1: me all week. On Saturday when the girl was supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be missing me and he was here at the
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  Speaker 1: house all day long. He my son does Spenny many things,
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  Speaker 1: but hard another woman killing my son wouldn't never heard
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  Speaker 1: of woman. So you don't think he has she has
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  Speaker 1: anything to do with her disappearance. He couldn't. He was
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  Speaker 1: here with me. How can he? How can he be
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  Speaker 1: a newly in here at the same time. It raises
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  Speaker 1: lots of flags with what just happens. Her tone was
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  Speaker 1: she was more frantic. I think it's because the kids
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  Speaker 1: or they don't know. They're there for any other fights,
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  Speaker 1: but this one, she just seemed more frantic. Listen to
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  Speaker 1: Joeyne's mother. It motivates me, actually just motivates me. It
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  Speaker 1: motivates me that the community just loves my daughter and
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  Speaker 1: that they care about each other. They we're a small
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  Speaker 1: knit community, but it's impacted by everybody. I mean, from
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  Speaker 1: one parent to another. Can you imagine the imaginable, no,
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  Speaker 1: just the smalll at closure would be having her home
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  Speaker 1: and is that's the hardest part. It's not having her
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  Speaker 1: own and I totally totally believe on my heart that
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  Speaker 1: prayers sustain us, and the community has shown that I
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  Speaker 1: just need my child home. I knew that posure is
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  Speaker 1: there a complete closure? Now, there's never such a thing
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  Speaker 1: as complete posure. We knew that how would a parent feel,
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  Speaker 1: how would appear it feel, not being able to bring
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  Speaker 1: your child home? That's all I asked for. Somebody knows something.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody knows something. Let's talk about Jolene Jent. Jolene Jensen Cummings,
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  Speaker 1: a young mom of three, goes missing. Last scene where
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  Speaker 1: she's employed at tangles Here Salon. Where is she? That
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  Speaker 1: was her mother who goes and visits a memorial every
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  Speaker 1: single day to refresh it and look at all the
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  Speaker 1: cards and the stuffed animals and the flowers, hoping against
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  Speaker 1: hope to bring her daughter, Jolene home to her three children.
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  Speaker 1: The only way we're going to do that is to
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  Speaker 1: analyze what we know her suv. Jolne's SUV was found
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  Speaker 1: abandoned outside of home depot. Surveillance video has just emerged. Listen.
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  Speaker 1: We found some camera footage that showed Joline's vehicle being
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  Speaker 1: parked around one am Sunday morning. The video showed the
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  Speaker 1: driver sit there for a few minutes and then get out.
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  Speaker 1: We were hoping to see Joline get out of that vehicle.
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  Speaker 1: But who do you think it was the tangles hairstylus
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  Speaker 1: who was supposed to the last person to see. Well,
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  Speaker 1: there you have it to Cheryl McCollum. With a cold
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  Speaker 1: case research institute, we can run down every guy that
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  Speaker 1: came in the salon, every ex boyfriend that ever had
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  Speaker 1: a spat with her. But the video doesn't lie, Ryl.
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  Speaker 1: What is the coworker with eighteen alias is doing at
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  Speaker 1: her suv at one o'clock in the morning? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: how could you put an innocent face on that? You can't?
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  Speaker 1: And they think the thing that sticks out the most
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  Speaker 1: for me is the distance um for where she was
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  Speaker 1: last seen to where her car was found. And they think,
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  Speaker 1: here's the reality, where she was last seen at five
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  Speaker 1: pm and where the car was found at home depot
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  Speaker 1: is two miles apart. That's a ten minute drop. But
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  Speaker 1: that person had eight hours with this victim to do
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  Speaker 1: whatever occurred in that car before they ditched it, eight
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  Speaker 1: hours to drive her somewhere, eight hours to harm her,
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  Speaker 1: eight hours to hide her and drive back in Dix
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  Speaker 1: that vehicle at one a m. You know what, I
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  Speaker 1: was thinking along a different avenue altogether, But saying that,
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  Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. You know, when I hear about missing children,
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  Speaker 1: I think of the time they go missing versus the
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  Speaker 1: time that they reported missing, versus the time police are
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  Speaker 1: mobilized and start looking. And I multiplied times sixty miles,
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  Speaker 1: and that's how far away they could have gotten, to
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  Speaker 1: Lee Egan. These two women, were they on a friendly basis?
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  Speaker 1: What do we know about them? Were they working the
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  Speaker 1: same shift at when she goes missing? Was their animosity?
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  Speaker 1: Did they have an argument that day? And if so
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  Speaker 1: over what? What do we know? Lee? They were not
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  Speaker 1: on a friendly basis. They were very a lot of
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  Speaker 1: animosity between them for some reason. From what her co
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  Speaker 1: worker said is Kessler had a problem with Joline, but
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  Speaker 1: they did not know why. She just refused to help her.
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  Speaker 1: She just snubbed her every chance she got, and it
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  Speaker 1: was to the point where it was uncomfortable inside the salon.
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  Speaker 1: It made things very tense. But I mean it's tense
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  Speaker 1: enough to commit a murder. This this is what I
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  Speaker 1: know about this woman, Uh, Kimberly Kessler. She is originally
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  Speaker 1: from Butler, Pennsylvania, and she had been using a fake
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  Speaker 1: social Security number. Now that's another thing I don't get
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  Speaker 1: to Dr Daniel bober Or, forensic psychiatrist. You know, when
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  Speaker 1: I go to if I write a check at the
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  Speaker 1: grocery store, I gotta get show a credit card, I
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  Speaker 1: gotta show an I D. I mean, they look you
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  Speaker 1: up and down, and I'm surprised. I don't take a fingerprint.
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  Speaker 1: How does this woman get ahold up a fake social
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  Speaker 1: Security number? You would think, Nancy, that everything would not
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  Speaker 1: match up. But you know, when you go to this
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  Speaker 1: store and you present your credit card and your driver's license,
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  Speaker 1: you know you don't necessarily have to present your social
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Security number. It would probably only come up under certain instances.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: And again, if you tried to assume someone else's identity,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: not all your documentation would be consistent. So it is
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: quite puzzling. Yeah, it's puzzling. All right. This is what
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: else we know. Apparently as soon as Joe Lingo is missing,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: she sctattles what do we know about that? Lee Egan
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Crime Online dot Com reporter where was Kessler ultimately located?
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Once they see the video we just talked about, where
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: do they find Kessler. They found her sleeping in her
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: own car at a rest area off the interstate. Wait
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: a minute, Lea, and there's more to it than that.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Just being asleep at a rest stop means nothing to me.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: That's not anything even remotely unusual. But what I find
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: very unusually Egan is that she has part her black
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: key a soul between two semi trucks and a rest
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: stop along St. John's County to hide it. To hide it,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: she doesn't want to be spotted. Now to me, that's significant.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Cheryl mccollumway in no question. When people go to a
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: rest stop, they usually park as close to the building
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: as they can because they have to go to the restaurant.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: The semi trucks, as y'all know, are way off in
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: the distance. So not only is she as far from
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: the building as she can get, she's wedged herself between
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: two semi trucks so people cannot see her car and
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: or tack. Another thing, we know that she was taken
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: in on what was the initial charge Lee Egan okay
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: for using for having Joelene's SUV without her permission, But
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: then the story gets even more bizarre when she stages
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: a hunger strike. Yes, she stages a hunger strike, okay,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: behind bars. Why Cheryl McCollum does this woman stage a
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: hunger strike? Two reasons. She thinks she's gonna gain sympathy
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: from people, and the second reason is she wants to
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: be moved to a medical lord because it's easier to
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: do time with nurses than in the sale with guards. Guys,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: we are talking about the disappearance of a gorgeous young
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: mom of three who worked at tangles Here Salon and
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: as of right now, she still has not been located.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: But it looks bad. Take a listen to what her
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: mother says. We will we will win this, I know
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: we will. Justice will be served and my daughter will
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: be found. It's sath straight too, you know, because they're
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: not talking at all, you know, saying anything. It's okay
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: because the truth will come out. She got caught. She
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: got caught, and I met her, My granddaughter met her.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: That's the hardest part. How can somebody is so cold
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: and it's a long here. Yes, yeah, faith sustains us
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: and faith will get us to this. Her mother not
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: giving up hope. She's not the only one looking for Jolene. Uh.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: The entire community has joined together and in the last
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: hours have been out searching, holding on to hope. Friends, family,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: relatives of volunteers of the missing mom of three were
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: back out searching in the last hours and their search
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: focused a round a racetrack gas station on State Road
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: two hundred in Yui. Interesting. Why are they focusing on
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: the area around the racetrack, Lee Egan, I believe that
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: the gas station where she was last seen, um Kessler
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: was last seen. I think that she went and got
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: a taxi cap from that gas station. Okay, Remember Kessler
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: is the coworker, not the missing mom Jolene. Now again,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: she has not been charged in any way in Jolene's disappearance.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: She still is behind bars, however, on grand theft auto okay,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: for using Joelyne's car without her permission. I'm looking now
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: at video and a feed of volunteers beating through the
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: thick Florida brush. I don't even see how they can
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: get through it looking for joe Lene. Now, according to
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the Sheriff's office, in the meantime, this woman, Kimberly Kessler,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: art's a hunger strike. Now. She started the hunger strike
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: after she reads a story about the Sheriff Bill Leeper's
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: announcement that she Kessler had lived in thirty three cities
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: and fourteen states under at least seventeen names, all just
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: since nineteen nine six. Now, there was a reason the
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: sheriff did that, Dr Daniel Boboard, there's a reason he
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: put out that information. Why to inform people, to let
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: the public know what's going on. I'll tell you why
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I did it. He did it because she's rendered rooms
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: from people, She's had other jobs that we don't know
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: anything about. It. Quite possibly there are other victims out there,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: either of identity, theft or Investigators have received dozens of
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: tips from the public through crime Stoppers, none of them
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: have led them to Joe Langence and Cummings. Yet the
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: reward has now been increased to four thousand dollars from
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: information leading to an arrest in the case. Let me
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: just give you that number now one eight six six
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: eight four or five tips one eight six six eight
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: four or five tips, Or you can go on to
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: F Frank c cat crime stoppers dot com, FC crime
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: stoppers dot com. What a tangled web that has been woven,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: According to Sheriff Bill Leaper, investigators have uncovered a lot
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: of evidence connected to the coworker also known as Jennifer Cybert.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: For instance, what have they collected other than the alias
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: is league and they will not tell us. They may
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: not be telling you, but some of what we have
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: learned is that she also faces a federal charge of
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: possession of a counterfeit passport. Cheryl McCullum Nancy. Again, it
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: could be a situation to where some of these jobs
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: require a driver's license or another photo I D or
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: a pathport. She could have used that to get jobs.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: She could have used it because her plan was at
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: some point to flee. Now listen to what her and
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Kimberly Kessler's own family says, they say
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: they haven't heard from Cybert. Who is Kimberly Kessler the
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: co worker in fourteen years that her parents reported her
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: missing July two thousand four while they were living in
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Butler County, Pennsylvania. The sister says, quote, I don't know
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: what's going on. I feel like I don't even know her.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: She's basically a stranger to me. The sister goes on
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: to say the families in shop and needs air to breathe,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: and the whole situation has been difficult, difficult for them.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: What about for the missing victim? Now at some point
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: we know and Dr bober you're the psychiatrist, I need
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: you to weigh in on this. At Kimberly Kessler actually
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: assumed the identity of a thirteen year old girl who
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: was killed in a car crash overseas and later buried
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. We've learned that from Nassau County Sheriff Bill Leeper. Well,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: using a little girl, a dead little girl's name and
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: assuming her identity. Dr Daniel Bobert, that is just rob
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: that's just being a grave robber. Obviously, assuming someone's identity,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: you're not trying to hide the person you are. You're
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: trying to hide the person you were. But assuming the
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: identity of a thirteen year old girl, uh clearly shows
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: that this person has absolutely no remorse or conscience that
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: will go to any length to conceal their identity. To
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Alan Deep joining us, what are the locations that the
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: record show where Cybered has lived, the different cities and states.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: It's a very impressive tour of Florida. St. Augustine, St.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Augustine Beach, Petersburg, Tallahassee, then into Kansas Mission, Overland Park,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Shawny Mission, Kansas. She went to Minnesota and Rochester and
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: one of my favorite cities, Nashville, Tennessee. You know. Also,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: we've learned that she had a license with the state
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: of Florida to be cosmetologists and that was registered to Tampa,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: which I don't think was on your list, Alan Duke.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Now we're trying to get records on her from the FBI,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: the d o J, and the Pennsylvania State Police. Apparently
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: the FBI is building its own case against her and
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: sending help to Nassau County detectives. But still we don't
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: know where is Joe Lene, but we fear the worst. Listen,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: thank you for keeping her name out there, but I
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: also asked that you give us some privacy. It's been
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: a very typical time. The majority of you have been
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: very cordial and very helpful. Thank you. As we grow,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: does a draw close to day nine that I reported
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: my daughter missing. Sunday was a special day, not only
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: for Mother's Day, but it was her birthday. She was
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: born on Mother's Day. God gave me this special blessing
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: after my firstborn infant son, Richard, was buried. We are
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: all heartbroken. Jolanne's three children, her stepdad, her sisters, her brother,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: several aunts, uncles, cousins, myself, and all the extended family
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: and friends. I want to sincerely thank Sheriff phill Ever
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: and Director Henderson and the rest of the staff of
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: the c I D Unit and Donna Thurston and members
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: of NCSO who have been working night and day to
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: bring my daughter home, who unfortunately still has not been located.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: My daughter was a loving mother to her children, her children,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: for her life. I need you, the news, the public
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: to help CIST, the law enforcement agencies to be their ears,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: to be their eyes. Someone out there, someone out there,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: knows something. I thank you. I thank you as a
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: mother to please keep coming forward with any information that
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: you have, no matter how small, help with any possibilities
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: they could help locate my daughter, for her my three
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: grandchildren who missed her so much. We want closure. I
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: just can't imagine too Cheryl McCollum, the hatred, the bitterness,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: the drama within that tangled here salon that leads to
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Sheriff's believing Jolene, the mother of three little children, is dead.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Over what could it possibly be. There's no talent, Nancy.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: It could be something that totally came from the suspect
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: in this case, that she envisioned the dreamed up or
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: was her own madness. But whatever was in that s
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: UV was clear enough to law enforcement that her mom
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: has accepted it. If you listen to the press conference,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: her mama says she was a loving mother. She was.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: She refers to her in past ten, which tells me
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: her mother has it accept it that she's no longer
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: a love Another disturbing fact, Sheryl McCullum is the physical evidence.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: What is it? If you look at her mud shot,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: she clearly has a scratch on her face, and law
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: enforceman is said suspect ms case also had scratches on
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: her hands, which to me are indicative of Jolene literally
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: fighting for her life. You know, let's just think about
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: this one moment. Lee Egan, Daniel, Dr. Daniel Bober and
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Sheryl McCullum. Last scene in the hair salon? Okay, did
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: she ever make it out of the hair salon? Was
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: she killed or kidnapped in her SUV? Somehow? The coworker
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Cybert Kimberly Kessler ended up in her SUV. So, analyzing
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: what we know, where, do you think the primary crime
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: scene is Cheryl McCullum, the victim The s u V explained,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I believe whatever is in that car, law enforcement had
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: enough to believe she's no longer living, which tells me
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: there was enough blood in it, um, some type of restraints,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: maybe scissors from the hair saline. There's something in there.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Did not only the law enforcement accept John leaves up
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: alive anymore? So did her family as far as Kimberly
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Kessler a k a. Jennifer Cybert. In the last hours,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: she has called off her hunger strike and she's eating again.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: She is the prime sussect and the disappearance of a
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: female coworker, Nassau County mother, Jolene Cummings. Now, why is
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: she suddenly eating again? Not that I care whether she's eating,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Lee Egan, but doesn't have anything to do with the
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: finding Jolene, I don't think so. She just decided she
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: wanted to eat again. It could be because they moved
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: her to a different jail that she didn't want to
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: be in. They moved her over to Duval County Jail
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: once she started eating again, they moved her back to
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Nassau County. I can't confirm that. That's really just a guess.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I think what you just said in a very very
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: circuitous way, as that she agreed to start eating again
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: if they would move her. Is that what you're getting, Cheryl. No,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: they moved her back after she started eating, so strike,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I know, but I mean as part of a deal,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: you start eating, we'll move you back. It could be,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: but I think she got her hunger I don't think. Okay,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: every time I've ever had somebody a claimed they were
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: having a hunger strike behind bars, I found out they
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: were secretly getting crackers and whatever they could from. You know, yeah, yeah,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: they were totally eating the whole time. They never lost
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: a pound. Here we go with another failed hunger strike.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: To Hey, with her and her hunger strike and sneaking
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: crack is or whatever she's doing. All I care about
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: is finding Joe Lene. Listen to her mother begging for
• 36:07
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• 36:15
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• 36:21
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• 36:25
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• 36:35
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• 37:57
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• 38:02
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• 38:07
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• 38:13
  Speaker 1: fourteen months old Owen Hidalgo Calderon is missing. Out to
• 38:21
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• 38:25
  Speaker 1: can you tell me, Nancy? The relatives of Selena Hildalgo
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Calderon and that fourteen month old son Owen called police
• 38:34
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• 38:37
  Speaker 1: them in quite some time, and they were very worried,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: as you can imagine. Also missing was Selena's boyfriend, Edward Reyes.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: The couple had been living together in So Does, New York,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: about midway between Rochester and Syracuse, working on an apple orchard.
• 38:55
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• 38:59
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• 39:02
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• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Higgy is missing his mother. A beautiful young lady, Selina Calderon,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: has been found dead, her body buried near an apple
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: orchard in SODA's, New York, near where she worked. What
• 39:24
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• 39:27
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• 39:30
  Speaker 1: mom's remains, and if you could see him, he has
• 39:33
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• 39:39
  Speaker 1: days after his mother, Selina's body is found, she was
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: in a plastic bag in the woods behind a SODA's
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: apple orchard. Cheryl McCollum with the Cold Case Research Institute,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: that's got to be a treasure trove of of of evidence.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: A plastic bag. Are you kidding me? It's gotta be
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: covered in dan A fingerprints. Oh, it's the money tree
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: for long Enforce at Nancy. But you know, sadly the
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: child was not with her, so that might tell them
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: they were killed separately at different times. And the child
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: could be somewhere completely different, not even in the woods.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Or the child could be alive and sold or given
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: away or dumped somewhere. Uh. Selena's body badly decomposed and
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: hidden between logs in the earth. The medical examiners a
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: matter of fact says that the body was such bad
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: shape they're still trying to determine a cause of death
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: on the mother, Selena Calderon, but without the baby being
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: right there, Baby Higgy, where does that leave us? They
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: were last seen on a farm. Owen was absent at
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: daycare the following two days. Higgy was then reported missing
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: that Sunday by Selena's mom, who had not heard from
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: her in three days, which is highly, highly unusual. The
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Amber Alert State's Higgy is fourteen months old, a boy,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: brown hair, brown eyes, just to feet tall, weighing thirty pounds.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: He is just a tiny, tiny baby boy. Listen to
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: what police are saying. People try to apply the presumption
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: of innocence for this matter, even though it's very emotional
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: for everyone involved. The one the one qualifier that we
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: didn't meet. We can't confirm if this is introduction, and
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: we will continue to run to parallel investigations, the search
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: for Owen and also our criminal investigation on the homicide
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: of Selena. If you were a victim, we're going to
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: work hard to protect you, to bring justice to you.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: And if you're about perpetrator, we're gonna haunt you down.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Let's first look at the boyfriend, um Everardo Race. Now,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: what can you tell me? About surveillance video of him.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about Evardo. This is while that search for
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: the mother and child was underway, Officers out of the
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: blue get a tip from a landowner. Uh near the
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: orchard where Calderone Reyes we're working. Edward Reyes was caught
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: on a hunter's trail camera going in and out of
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: the woods near that orchard with a shovel. Okay, well
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: that can't be good, Cheryl McCollum. But still I don't
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: know where the baby is, correct, Nae. They've got a
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: parallel investigation going on, because again it appears that you've
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: got two different crimes, the mother obviously being murdered and buried,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: but then the child and to your point, whether the
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: child has been so or given away or harmed and
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: put somewhere else. There were an a parallel investigation here
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: to try it down where the baby is at. If
• 43:09
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