Latest / Becker’s Healthcare -- Pediatric Leadership Podcast / Dr. Saima Aftab, Chief Strategy Officer and Vice President at Nicklaus Children's Health
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- 0:00- This is Christos with the Becker's Healthcare Podcast,
- 0:02and Jill will be joined by Dr. Simon off top,
- 0:05chief Strategy Officer
- 0:06for Nicholas Children's Health System.
- 0:08Dr. Off Top, thank you so much for joining us today.
- 0:11- Thank you for having me.
- 0:12- Wonderful. Could you please introduce yourself
- 0:14and tell us a bit about your background?
- 0:17- Sure. Um, as you just shared, um, my name is Simon Aftab
- 0:21and I serve as the Chief Strategy Officer
- 0:23at Nicholas Children's.
- 0:25Um, I am a physician by training
- 0:27and I've been with Nicholas Children's
- 0:29for about seven years.
- 0:31Um, I've trained as a pediatrician
- 0:34and then as, as a neonatologist.
- 0:35And I started out my,
- 0:37off my career at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
- 0:40where I did all my training
- 0:42and I was a faculty member at the
- 0:44University of Pennsylvania.
- 0:46And then, uh, after 11 years, I moved to Boston
- 0:49and I was at the Harvard School of Medicine.
- 0:51So, uh, you know,
- 0:52my career was started off in clinical medicine
- 0:55and, um, you know, education,
- 0:58the traditional academic track,
- 0:59and then got into healthcare consulting
- 1:01and then, uh, healthcare administration.
- 1:04And I got an MBA
- 1:06and, uh, over time transitioned into more
- 1:09of a strategy, business development role.
- 1:11And, uh, I've been serving in this role at Nicholas
- 1:14Children's for now seven years.
- 1:16And, um, I love what I do
- 1:18and I love the fact
- 1:19that I can bring both the worlds together,
- 1:21both my experience at the bedside as well as
- 1:24that business development, uh, strategy arm
- 1:28that helps us do a better job, you know, connecting the two,
- 1:31um, at, at, at our, at our Children's hospital.
- 1:34- Excellent. Thank you for sharing all of that, doctor.
- 1:36So given your current role,
- 1:39technology definitely plays a huge part of that.
- 1:42So with that in mind, could you let us know
- 1:44what technology shows the most promise in terms
- 1:46of its application over the next 12 to 24 months?
- 1:49And on a related note, everyone is buzzing about AI these
- 1:53days and pretty much any business or any venture.
- 1:56And so how would you describe Nicholas
- 1:58Children's approach to ai?
- 2:01- Absolutely. I think, uh,
- 2:02you pretty much hit the nail on the head.
- 2:04I think everyone's buzzing about ai
- 2:06and we too, um,
- 2:08at Nicholas Children's are very excited about the
- 2:10opportunities it has to offer.
- 2:13So in the short term, I think in the next 12 to 24 months,
- 2:16I think obviously, you know, the, the boost
- 2:19that telemedicine got through covid,
- 2:21I think is only going to continue.
- 2:23And at our healthcare system,
- 2:24really integrating it across the care continuum for patients
- 2:28and for our children, I think is going to be a priority.
- 2:30So how does that translate into better home monitoring?
- 2:34What's our home healthcare strategy?
- 2:36How do we integrate telemedicine
- 2:39for managing population health
- 2:40and keeping our kids healthy at home and in their schools?
- 2:44And then obviously the other sort of big component
- 2:47that I think we're excited about in the short term is going
- 2:50to be the applications for ai.
- 2:53Um, so I think when we think about that, um, you know,
- 2:56the central focus for that would be how can we use AI
- 2:59to improve patient about the quality of patient care as well
- 3:02as enhancing the experience.
- 3:05And even today, there's a lot of solutions
- 3:08for available AI driven solutions that can actually
- 3:12enhance the, not only the quality of patient care,
- 3:16but also the experience.
- 3:18And the, the, the area that we're gonna be focusing on
- 3:20to start is going to be around imaging
- 3:23and radiology services.
- 3:25So we are already doing a pilot where, um, with a,
- 3:28we're using AI technology to determine bone age,
- 3:31and that's going to be our first sort of, you know,
- 3:34dipping our toe in the water, so to speak.
- 3:36But I think there's countless additional applications
- 3:39for AI both in the clinical
- 3:40and non-clinical space that, that we're very excited about.
- 3:46- Thank you, doctor. So beyond that,
- 3:48are there other in innovations rather,
- 3:50that Nicholas Filters is excited about over the next year?
- 3:54- Absolutely. Um, there's, we're, uh, investing in some, uh,
- 3:59AR and VR solutions both for medical training,
- 4:02patient education,
- 4:03and improving the patient experience
- 4:05through difficult procedures,
- 4:07through really creating a very interactive, uh, fun journey.
- 4:11I think the best part of pediatrics is
- 4:13that you can have a lot of fun and,
- 4:15and be creative, um, in, in terms
- 4:17of using these technologies.
- 4:19So one of the things that we've started
- 4:21to implement is using VR technology
- 4:24and, um, sort of the, the, um,
- 4:26and ification to sort of get our patients
- 4:29to be more compliant, um, either through a procedure
- 4:32as we're guiding them through the different steps
- 4:34so they don't get anxious, but also with education.
- 4:37So for kids that, um, have diabetes
- 4:39and need to manage their own health, um,
- 4:42in any other chronic complex condition, you know, using AR
- 4:46and VR to sort of be, um, a very fun interactive tool
- 4:50for kids to actually learn how to take ownership
- 4:52of their own health, um, is is very exciting.
- 4:57- Doctor on that, no, what has the feedback been like
- 5:00for this, uh, program that you've just described for us?
- 5:03- Yeah. Feedback for the program has been great.
- 5:06Um, both our patients, our clinicians
- 5:08and our staff absolutely love it.
- 5:10They've been very open to the, the technology
- 5:14and incorporating it in the workflows.
- 5:16But beyond that, the data that we've collected so far,
- 5:20especially for the, the US using virtual reality for, uh,
- 5:25patients and coming patients through procedure, we found
- 5:28that not only are we more likely
- 5:29to be successful in doing the procedure without any
- 5:32complications, the number of interruptions
- 5:35or the time to complete the procedure is actually better
- 5:38with integrating, um, this VR tool.
- 5:41So the feedback has been excellent across the board.
- 5:48- Excellent. Thank you, doctor. So taking a little bit
- 5:51of a different direction here.
- 5:53So I understand that Nicholas Re's last year, November
- 5:57specifically joined a coalition dedicated to advocacy
- 6:00for underserved populations around the world.
- 6:03This is definitely a noteworthy goal that any health system
- 6:06and should have, but
- 6:08how do you see your own health system role in this effort,
- 6:11and how would you encourage others to get involved?
- 6:15- Absolutely. So Nicholas Children's, um,
- 6:17we're formerly known as Miami Children's,
- 6:19so we're the largest freestanding children's
- 6:22hospital in South Florida.
- 6:23And we also have the privilege of taking care
- 6:26of kids not only in our local community,
- 6:28but a sizable number of kids
- 6:30that are coming from the Caribbean, from the South Americas
- 6:34and from all over the world.
- 6:36So we truly consider ourselves an advocate globally
- 6:39for pediatric healthcare.
- 6:42Um, so Nicholas Children's, um,
- 6:43and our roles as a part of this coalition would be
- 6:46to really be that advocate
- 6:47and that void for, for the health
- 6:50of children all over the world.
- 6:52I think we are uniquely positioned through our experience
- 6:55with our patients that come from a very broad part
- 6:58of the globe for us to be, you know, um, closely keyed into
- 7:02what those issues are for children globally.
- 7:05They may be a little bit different from
- 7:07what we experience here at home in the US
- 7:10but I think there's many common themes.
- 7:12So, um, advocacy around, uh, prevention
- 7:16of communicable diseases, you know, vaccinations,
- 7:20clean water, but,
- 7:21but again, mental health is a theme
- 7:23that we're seeing both not only in our local
- 7:25community but also globally.
- 7:27So a lot of advocacy efforts are going to be focused around
- 7:32recognizing de-stigmatizing and,
- 7:34and really getting kids the, the mental health, uh,
- 7:36support services needed quickly and easily.
- 7:40So I think, you know, we're excited about, um, you know,
- 7:43participating in this amazing coalition
- 7:45and providing, you know, a contribution and, and
- 7:48and providing thought leadership in that space.
- 7:52- Lastly, doctor, I wanted to ask you, so
- 7:54what issue in pediatric care do you think deserves a
- 7:57brighter spotlight this year and beyond?
- 8:02- I think this year and beyond, I think behavioral health
- 8:05or mental health is, I think, the, the most pressing
- 8:09an important issue that we are facing in pediatrics.
- 8:14I think, um, you know, COVID-19, the pandemic
- 8:17really exacerbated, um, mental health
- 8:21challenges in our children, in our, in our, our youth.
- 8:24Um, there's many contributing factors.
- 8:26I mean, overall, I think year over year, even
- 8:28before the pandemic, we had seen rising rates
- 8:32of mental health disorders among children and adolescents,
- 8:35but then adding the isolation, distress
- 8:38and fear from, um, uh, uh,
- 8:40potentially lethal viral infection, um,
- 8:43and then add that with social separation, academic pressure,
- 8:48and then the sort of the, the negative effects
- 8:50of social media with bullying trauma
- 8:53and then also the stress of family dynamics.
- 8:55And, um, at the time of the pandemic,
- 8:58I think really brought things to a boiling point.
- 9:00And not only were it really uncovered the fact
- 9:03that our healthcare systems not only, uh, were ill-equipped
- 9:07and Ill staffed to take care of this,
- 9:08but also really recognizing the whole continuum
- 9:12of mental health illness.
- 9:14I think it became very important.
- 9:15So really a focus on primary prevention.
- 9:18You know, talking about mental health
- 9:20and wellness with parents and having school teachers and,
- 9:24and school systems to recognize their role
- 9:27integrating mental health services in primary care offices
- 9:31or pediatricians offices,
- 9:33and then really up building capacity for telemedicine
- 9:36and inpatient services for mental health.
- 9:38So it's going to need a complete overhaul for us
- 9:41to really make a sustainable impact,
- 9:43and it won't be made possible without really looking at
- 9:46where technology fits in
- 9:47and how we can do better in terms
- 9:49of policy change and advocacy.
- 9:52Um, so I think that that's just the single biggest, I think,
- 9:55challenge for pediatric healthcare.
- 9:58And I think a close second would be childhood obesity.
- 10:01I think obesity, you know, overall
- 10:03for us remains a significant public health concern.
- 10:06I think, um, you know, the, the statistics about only 20%
- 10:11of Americans were considered obese, um, in the 19, in 1960s,
- 10:16but now about 40% of Americans are, are,
- 10:18are in that category.
- 10:20And it's particularly alarming
- 10:22because we're seeing similar rates in our children as well.
- 10:25And as you can imagine, the morbidities and,
- 10:29and the side effects that come with childhood obesity,
- 10:31including diabetes, uh, depression, social isolation,
- 10:36cardiovascular disease, um, and other illnesses.
- 10:40I think, you know, we're setting our kids up for a lifetime
- 10:43of poor health, poor mental health, lack
- 10:47of social relationships, lack of poor,
- 10:49a lack of self-esteem.
- 10:50So I think this in my mind, is another one of those really
- 10:54hot topics that I think we all need to sort
- 10:56of collaborate on and find creative solutions
- 10:59to address in a, in a significant and sustainable way.
- 11:03- Dr. Thank you so much for being so generous
- 11:05with your time and your insights.
- 11:07I know we've covered a lot of ground in this short period
- 11:09of time and we cannot wait to share all your insights
- 11:13with our audience that we look forward
- 11:14to connecting with you soon.
- 11:17- I appreciate the opportunity
- 11:19and thank you so much for taking the time
- 11:20and, uh, as you can tell, I'm very excited personally about,
- 11:25you know, all these new technologies
- 11:27and the opportunities that it, it has to offer
- 11:29that's gonna help our kids.
- 11:30So I appreciate the opportunity to come
- 11:32and speak with you all.