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- 0:00Welcome to Loud and Lifted, the podcast where
- 0:02we amplify women who lead with courage and make
- 0:04bold moves. I'm your host, Betsy Hamm. This week's
- 0:07quick lift is inspired by Gwen Whiscount, a powerhouse
- 0:10sales leader and entrepreneur. Gwen's journey
- 0:12is all about action, grit, and being intentional.
- 0:15In under 10 minutes, we are digging into those
- 0:17key takeaways and action items from our conversation
- 0:19with Gwen. No matter where you are in your journey,
- 0:22this is your reminder, your career doesn't just
- 0:24happen, you build it. Let's get into it. Takeaway
- 0:35number one, hinge moments shape the story. The
- 0:39biggest changes in your life often swing on the
- 0:41smallest choices, a bold move or a yes risk.
- 0:45Now, this was not a concept that I ever heard
- 0:47of, which is very interesting, however, and this
- 0:50is based off of a book by Michael Lindsay and
- 0:52he talks about hinge moments or those crucial
- 0:54decision points in life where actions can have
- 0:56a disproportionate impact on future outcomes.
- 0:59These are significant and sometimes they may
- 1:01be obvious. You know, Gwen talked about one of
- 1:03her very early on hinge moments in her career
- 1:05was after she graduated college and she had two
- 1:08job opportunities. opportunities in front of
- 1:09her. One was staying local and staying comfortable,
- 1:12to be honest, with a company that she was familiar
- 1:14with. And the second opportunity was moving several
- 1:17states away, really starting fresh and starting
- 1:20over in an industry that she didn't have experience
- 1:22in and didn't really sound the most glamorous.
- 1:24She went with the later option, which then had
- 1:27a different trajectory of her career. She probably
- 1:29could have stayed here and everything could have
- 1:30been great. And who would have known how that
- 1:32would have continued to grow. But because of
- 1:34her moving to Florida and because of the people
- 1:36that she met, it changed the path of her career.
- 1:38So that was. a pretty significant hinge moment.
- 1:41I think hinge moments can be as simple as sometimes
- 1:43taking a call or taking an interview. You know,
- 1:46through the years, I've had certain companies
- 1:47reach out who want to discuss and, you know,
- 1:50I always take the calls even if I'm not looking
- 1:52because you never know where that can lead to.
- 1:54And maybe it's not now, but maybe it's in the
- 1:56future. I think about that even how I ended up
- 1:59at Duck Donuts. I was kind of keeping an eye
- 2:01out and somebody had mentioned that they were
- 2:03looking to open their corporate headquarters
- 2:05in Mechanicsburg. I had never even heard of Duck
- 2:07Donuts. at the time, but I decided to take the
- 2:10call and set up the meeting. And that really
- 2:12opened my eyes and became this huge hinge moment
- 2:15in my career that never would have happened if
- 2:17I didn't take the call or take the lunch meeting
- 2:20to learn more about it. So action item for this
- 2:22week, reflect on one hinge moment in your life
- 2:25that changed your direction. Was it good? Was
- 2:27it bad? Did you open a door? Did you close a
- 2:29door? Sometimes closing a door isn't a bad thing,
- 2:32but think about that. Reflect on if you should
- 2:34have or would have done anything different, but
- 2:36most important, Think about the future. What's
- 2:39that next hinge moment? That's coming up and
- 2:41what are you gonna do about it? It's a door that
- 2:43you should be opening or again, maybe closing
- 2:46I just saw a quote from Mel Robbins the other
- 2:48day It says you were one decision away from a
- 2:50completely different life Think about that take
- 2:53away number two if you want something tell someone
- 2:57Your goals need exposure. And when you speak
- 2:59them, first of all, you start to own them. Second
- 3:02of all, the people you speak them to may be able
- 3:04to assist. Maybe it's an introduction. Maybe
- 3:07it's a connection. Maybe it's pointing you in
- 3:09the right direction of something that needs to
- 3:11happen in order for this to occur for you. This
- 3:13can take a lot of different meanings. However,
- 3:16a lot of it's based on relationships and connecting
- 3:18the dots and being intentional. There was more
- 3:21than one time in my career where one time when
- 3:23I was at Hershey and I wasn't being very clear.
- 3:26outspoken about my goals or what I wanted to
- 3:29do moving forward. And it definitely caught up
- 3:31to me, you know, when I finally did tell my boss,
- 3:34she was like, I had no idea you'd want to do
- 3:35that. And I missed an opportunity. So that was
- 3:38one opportunity where I should have told somebody.
- 3:41And maybe it's something that you're working
- 3:42towards, or maybe she could have helped connect
- 3:44the dots for me, but I didn't. tell someone.
- 3:47Now, there's another time where I actually did
- 3:49a great job of this. And that's when I never
- 3:51set out to be a CEO of an international donut
- 3:54franchise. But as the opportunity was sort of
- 3:57unfolding, as as we were looking to sell the
- 4:00company, I realized that we Nobody asked me,
- 4:03but I want to be the CEO. I didn't want someone
- 4:06to come in from the outside. We had such great
- 4:08positive momentum at the time. And I knew I could
- 4:10continue to move the brand forward. So I literally
- 4:13had to tell the founder and then CEO that that's
- 4:16what I wanted. Now, of course, there was a lot
- 4:18of steps and interviews and process that went
- 4:20behind that. But if I wouldn't have said something,
- 4:22I could have easily been passed over for that
- 4:24job. Action item, share one goal out loud this
- 4:28week. Now with somebody who can help you like
- 4:30a mentor or a colleague or even if it's your
- 4:32friend, but saying it gives you power and they
- 4:35can maybe help hold you accountable and ultimately
- 4:38help you connect the dots or help you get to
- 4:41where you're trying to go. Number three, nothing
- 4:43is permanent. So this cracks me up. Gwen mentioned
- 4:45this. I remember saying it very flipped to her,
- 4:48you know, 17, 16 years ago. She was really overthinking
- 4:52her decisions. And I said, look, if you don't
- 4:53like it, then you can move on or move back or
- 4:56find something different. You know, she was acting
- 4:58like this was a permanent decision and it wasn't,
- 5:01you can always reroute. And, you know, Gwen talked
- 5:03about thinking in two year plans or one year
- 5:06plan and not forever, which when you think about
- 5:08that and a smaller scale, then you're more likely
- 5:11to take. the risk or try something new. I think
- 5:13as women especially as we wait for complete clarity
- 5:17or complete confidence and a lot of times we're
- 5:20not going to get that. Sometimes we have to take
- 5:22the risk and put it out there. I have a friend
- 5:25who recently has been talking about wanting to
- 5:27start her own business, kind of as a side hustle
- 5:29at first till she can get it off the ground,
- 5:31obviously need the stability of an income. And
- 5:34you know, she finally realized like, what is
- 5:35she waiting for? So she started slow. She's taking
- 5:38steps, you know, starting the LLC, getting things
- 5:40around, creating the marketing material, but
- 5:43it's just taking that step and moving forward
- 5:45because sitting around is going to not ever have
- 5:48it happen. So action item for this. week, give
- 5:51yourself permission to make a move, whether it's
- 5:53big or small. Nothing changes if nothing changes.
- 5:57And the last takeaway, exposure over effort.
- 6:01Doing great work is one thing, right? That's
- 6:04step one. That's foundational. It's very important
- 6:06to have great work, strong performance. But who
- 6:09is talking about you when you're not in the room?
- 6:11You need sponsors and supporters. You need to
- 6:14be intentional with who you surround yourself
- 6:16with and know the relationships take work. This
- 6:19is one of my big ones for sure, because I have
- 6:21seen this happen countless times to women throughout
- 6:23my career where they do really great work, but
- 6:26nobody really realizes what they do or the value
- 6:28that they bring. I understand being your own
- 6:31PR person sometimes can be uncomfortable and
- 6:34people don't want to come across as cocky or
- 6:36conceited or taking credit for something that
- 6:39maybe was a team effort, but you have to get
- 6:41exposure. People have to know the value that
- 6:43you bring. And the only way they're going to
- 6:46do that is by you talking about it in the right
- 6:48way, sharing it and making sure that others around
- 6:51you know what you do. You know, I often talk
- 6:53about this. Does your boss know what you actually
- 6:56do? And more importantly, does your boss's boss
- 6:58or maybe somebody whose job that you would like
- 7:01something similar does, people have to know the
- 7:04value that you bring. And this is definitely
- 7:06a hard one. Also, think about this. Most promotions
- 7:09and jobs are filled by who you know. Let's be
- 7:12honest, right? It's the relationship. It's the
- 7:14connection. So if people understand who you are
- 7:18and what you do, then when the opportunity for
- 7:21a job or a promotion comes up, they're going
- 7:23to think of you. So action item for this week,
- 7:25identify one person who could be a champion for
- 7:27you and build that relationship. Get visible.
- 7:31This has come up multiple times on multiple podcasts,
- 7:34but being visible is so important and you can't
- 7:36be the best kept secret in the room. No matter
- 7:39where you are in your journey, the message is
- 7:41clear. Be bold, get intentional, and start laying
- 7:44the groundwork now. Because when opportunity
- 7:47knocks, you want to be ready. Say yes to new
- 7:49experiences. Share your goals out loud. And remember,
- 7:53doing great work is only part of it. Find your
- 7:56champions. Take the risk and own your path. And
- 7:59of course, keep getting loud and lifted. If you
- 8:01haven't listened to Gwen's episode, I strongly
- 8:03encourage you to do so. As always, if this episode
- 8:06resonated with you, please like it and share
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- 8:14lifted.