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The Triangle Debates Mixdown Part 2 - Emotional Responsibility, Power, and Ethics in the Bull Role · The Bull Brotherhood

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and open -minded explorers, we see you. Let's
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go. What do you mean you get nothing? I mean,
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elaborate more. Well, in other words, I'm being
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funny. I'm being funny. I know I need to, one,
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I look like I drink beer. I don't. I mean, I've
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been working on that. Two, I know I need to get
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better pictures on my profile. I think the words
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are better. So taking all that stuff away, yeah,
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like Mr. Mocha said, you know, we have to get
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to where we're at. I had to sit under y 'all
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and listen. I had to read books. I had to go
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to the gym. I had to do this. I had to do that.
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And I had to work hard to get to the point of
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being in front of a woman. And then I got to
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have some skills on wooing her, on spitting game
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in her ear. And now I got to spit game to the
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bull. I mean, to the cuck. I got to, you know,
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interact with him. That's a challenge, right?
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Those are skills that I have to develop on. It's
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hard work. Now, a lot of these couples, they
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just show up. I show up. I put my profile on
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there. Like you said, the profile halftime ain't
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right. You ain't got to say some stuff can be
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foul, and they're saying they can have all kinds
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of stupid rules, and they will get bombarded
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with options. So, yes, your job is to sifting
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through options. My job is to get to options
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in the first place. Equal struggle. Apples and
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oranges, yes. But we still got the same fruit,
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baby. We still dealing with the same fruit. We
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got to struggle to get there. This is what I
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hear, and I'd be curious to get Brian's take
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on this. It sounds like you mad at the game.
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No, not at all. Like the game is the game. You
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know what I'm saying? What it sounds like is
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you making excuses for them. That's what I'm
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saying. We all got to struggle. The game is the
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game. You know, I don't know your business. Quit
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complaining. I don't see it as a struggle. I
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don't see it as a struggle. Because it's always
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been like that. Like, when you learn the rules
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of the game, the women are always going to have
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– anything that has anything to do with dudes
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getting at women, however you want to put it,
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they always are in a position where dudes are
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coming to them. So it's always been about trying
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to figure out, okay, what can I do to either
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put myself in front of them or to do something
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where they're going to notice me. and I'm going
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to get the shine. But that's always been the
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game. Yeah, but it's the same thing for women,
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though. It's always been the game for women.
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So just shut up. Like, okay, well, you know,
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you're a 13 -year -old girl. My daughter was
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developing way sooner than I wanted to. And at
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13, her inbox is full. Motherfucker. Like, you
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know what I'm saying? She had to deal with that.
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So now my daughter's 27. My daughter look like
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a damn model. I don't even like showing people
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my picture of my daughter. But she got to deal
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with this and shut up. Okay, the coffee got to
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chill. You got to go down in that basement, dig
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through all them bad clothes to find you some.
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I used to do that. I used to be one of them dancers.
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We got to have some new sharp stuff. We ain't
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got no money. Let's go to the thrift store and
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see if we can make that shit hot. I know what
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it is. Like you said, it's my struggle to chase
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a woman. What's your struggle to shift? And you
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got a partner to shift. Matter of fact, you got
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a dude looking for you while you talking about,
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I don't do all that. He looks for all that. He
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sifts through them and then put them on my face
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and then it cuts. We'll do all the work. And
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she just say, yay or nay. Now y 'all complaining.
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No, bro. No, I'm not. I don't have a problem
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with the game. You're the one saying that they're
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struggling because they got to sit through all
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this bullshit. Well, I'm struggling to get there.
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And when I get there, I got to sit through some
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bullshit too. Have you ever had to look for something
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like in your house? Like when something is lost,
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it's a pain in the ass trying to find it. When
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you got to go through a lot of shit. To find
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one thing. That's a different type of search
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than just trying to find one thing. Like if I
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give you a deck of cards and I say, okay, find
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me the Jack of Clubs and I throw them all over
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the place, that's a lot of fucking work. As opposed
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to just trying to find a Jack of Clubs that's
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somewhere. Like sipping through a lot of stuff,
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for me, at least. is inherently more difficult
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as opposed to just trying to find that one thing
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that you're looking for. So yes, there's a difference,
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but I don't, but you use the word chasing. I
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never used the word chase. I say pursue now to
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some people, they might be the same thing to
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me. They're different. Chasing means you're just
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kind of like just blindly going after something.
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Whereas when you're pursuing something, You've
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identified what you want and you're pursuing
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it. If it gets away, you back off and you identify
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what you want and you pursue that. And you're
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able to recognize more quickly when somebody
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doesn't want you pursuing them. I tell women
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that all the time. Like, I don't mind pursuing
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you. But if you're giving me the vibe that you
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don't want me to pursue you, I'll stop cold in
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my tracks. Like, I'm not trying to chase you.
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And so it becomes, you know, being able to identify
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what you're looking for and being able, like
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I've said, oftentimes when I use the gunman analogy,
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what is your approach? Are you a shotgun? Are
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you an AR? Or are you a sniper? I'm a sniper.
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Shotgun, you pull the trigger, pellet spray out.
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You're going to hit something. AR, you hold the
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trigger down, move the chip back and forth. You
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ain't even got to have good aim. You're going
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to hit something. I don't favor those approaches.
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I want to line up what I'm looking for, get it
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in my scope, squeeze. I'm either going to hit
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it or I'm going to miss it. But if I hit it,
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I'm hitting exactly what I want. And that's just
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the difference in philosophy. I'm not here to
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say which is right or wrong. I'm just saying
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what works for me. So that is your definition
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of what we pursue, right? Yeah. Whatever we pursue,
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line it up, make sure you got a tight shot group.
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That's what you want. One shot, one kill, correct?
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Yeah, and if I miss... Are you going to kill
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it or are you going to be off to the left or
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off to the right? So that's pursuit. And chase
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would be just what you said. You got a shotgun,
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sawed off, whatever. We all know what a scattergun
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is, okay? We're going to spray and... Somebody's
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going to get hit. Somebody's going to get hit.
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Okay, that's chase and that's pursuit. We got
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to have the best aim. Let me... Well, okay, so...
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Nephew, you're saying that you do the same thing.
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You have to chase, pursue philosophy, or you
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just chase. Hey, man. I'm a master at arms, baby.
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When I'm in splash, I'm on that AR -15 shit.
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Okay, but hold on. Okay, let me say this. Hey,
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let me say this. Let me say this. Let me say
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this. Online, I'm a sniper, and at the club,
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I use a shotgun. Now, I'll kill you with all
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of them. I might fuck around and throw a grenade
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in the room. Take splash. Take splash away. Take
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splash out of this. All right, let's take splash
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out of it. So let's just leave, let's just leave,
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you know, the real world now. You know what I'm
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saying? Take Splash out of it. I don't even want
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to hear nothing about Splash because, hell, I
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can be 50 million different things at Splash.
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You know what I mean? From Special Forces to
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just infantry or to downright combo. You know
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what I'm saying? Without communications. So I
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don't need, you don't need nothing at Splash
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to me. You don't need nothing. All right. But
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I'm talking about now just the real world now,
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just the life itself. You know what I'm saying?
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How do you how do you pursue in the life or like
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what you do in the life? Just on a regular. OK.
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Yeah. I'm definitely a woman. OK. OK. I'm definitely
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the sniper paradigm. I agree with that. But can
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I go back to his analogy? He said, you know,
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I agree. You know, you have some in your house.
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And I'm the worst one. I'm at this age where
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I be forgetting where I put shit. So I get that.
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But let me ask you a question, Michael. Would
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you rather try to find $100 in your house or
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go make one? Well, if I know the $100 is there
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somewhere. But you got to go get it, though.
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You got to go earn that shit. You got to go make
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$100. Now, me and you know you have a profession
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where you know how to go make you $100 in one
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night. But that's hard work. You have to go make
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it. As opposed to, well, I can leave the house
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and tell my wife to look for this shit. I know
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it's in the closet somewhere. You know what I
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mean? That's what I'm saying. There's a difference
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between I got to go get this couple and convince
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both of them that I'm the right man. As opposed
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to, like you said, oh, man, I recently lost somebody.
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She had decided she was going to take a break.
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And then she came to us for advice. Well, I helped
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guide her back into, come on, you know, it's
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all good. Now, maybe I'm selfish, but I helped
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guide her back to, you know, we can still do
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the things, you know what I mean? You know, I
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might help you out with your troubles, you know?
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That's different. I lost her, and I got her back.
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You used a word. You said convince. When you
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say convince, I'm going to tell you. What I hear,
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brothers, you know, I'm not used to Mr. Mocha
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being this quiet this long. Is he still on the
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line? I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here.
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I'm here. I'm here. Listen, y 'all circling all
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around all kinds of stuff. And I'm waiting for
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it. Because. I'm trying to understand, you know,
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you and I are great debate and Socrates is new
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here. And Mike, you're a nice guy for trying
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to go easy. Okay. I'm staying back because I'm
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throwing rocks at both y 'all when it's my turn.
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So just understand that. So, you know, I don't
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give breaks. So, all right. So what I, in the
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beginning. What I what I gather, the thing that
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we always discuss is the difference between the
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challenges that. Couples have cuckold and hot
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wife couples have and compared to both. OK, and
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one of those things, many of those things come
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to who's responsible, who has a hard time. So
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we've covered one thing, you know, Mike has agreed
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that couples have more options. But he also,
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like I said, Mike's the person that feels like
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if you're a billionaire and you have a hard time
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spending money, you know, the poor people can
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only afford a little bit of shit. Their life
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is better. The peasants, because they have so
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little shit to worry about, they should stop
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complaining with all the goddamn options they
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got. Why are you complaining? You got to go to
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the grocery store and have the option to buy
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anything. If you broke, you can only get the
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motherfucking eggs. So we understand that Mike
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C has that. when it comes to couples. Hey, no,
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it's not. No, it is not. And I say this because
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right now I straddle both sides of that fence
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where my wife and I are thoroughly entertained
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oftentimes going through the messages that we
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get as a couple as opposed to the stuff that
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I get, the stuff that I see on my side. What's
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interesting is No guy can tell you that. Let
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me not say that. Most guys, if you put a bunch
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of dudes in a room and I've done that, we've
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done this before where we sat down and we were
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looking at our our SDC, our SLS and our Cassidy,
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the type of messages we have and the differences
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in our profiles. And what's always interesting
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is seeing how. Four of us will reach out to the
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same couple with completely different types of
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profile and we still don't get any responses.
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Right. And that goes to show that, like you said,
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when you have the option to walk into a grocery
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store or you have an option of going downstairs
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and sifting through a shit ton of stuff, knowing
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that what you're what you want is down there.
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You can be less selective. You can take your
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time. And I'm sure this has happened to you,
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Mike. How many times in the time you've been
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in the lifestyle that you've talked to a couple,
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a couple reach out to you on a site, you start
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talking, and then three months later at 2 o 'clock
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in the morning, they message you, hey, what are
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you doing? Telling you to go fuck yourself. That's
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what I'm doing. I don't reply like that. But
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we've had that happen. But now for me, and I
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don't know many guys dumb enough to have a brief
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conversation with somebody and then message them
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months later, hey, you want to fuck? There are
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a lot of differences in the behavior. So I think
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that we all have our challenges. But do I think
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that a couple has it harder? No. No way, shape
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or form do couples have it harder. The only thing,
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in my opinion, within the lifestyle that makes
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it harder for couples is when the two of them
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are not on the same page. All right. Me and my
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wife, when we hunt, we like fucking velociraptors.
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We hunt together. We're in sync and we go after
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what we're looking for. If she's looking for
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a thing on there, we're partners in it. So it's
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much easier with her and I. coordinating because
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there's guys on profiles who she'll be like,
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oh, I don't like the way this guy said that.
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And I read and I'm like, well, you know something?
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This is what I got out of that. But you got this
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out of that. I'm a dude. Why don't you try this
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out? And then she engages the guy and all of
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a sudden, oh, I'm glad I did because we were
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a team on it. Now, you take a couple. who the
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husband has one desire and the wife has another
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desire and the husband is saying, OK, honey,
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I'll do what you want. And the wife is trying
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to make sure that she does what he wants so she
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can get some dick. They're not on the same page.
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So now that type of couple will absolutely positively
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have it harder than a solitary hunter. Because
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if I'm at war with the person who I'm in the
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two seater with. Then yeah, it's going to be
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harder than the motherfucker that's in the car
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by itself. But if me and my partner were on the
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same page, we have it a thousand times easier
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than a single dude. Tell me where I'm wrong.
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I'll wait. We'll just agree to disagree. Oh,
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you're going to just let all that go? You let
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all that slide. All that. You ain't no comment
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on none of that. You just tapping out. I'm happy
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to know that I just tapped Mike C out that easy.
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That's the first time. I might end the call right
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now. I was waiting on a reply from Mike. I think
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you just hit a grand slam on that, the way you
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put it. And here again, I have to, I, I was visualizing
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what you were saying as far as like, you know
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what I mean? The couple being totally and completely
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on sync. And that's something that I think that's
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something that we have talked about before. Maybe
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in one of our podcasts, I'm already wrong. You
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know what I mean? About that couple being totally
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100 % on, you know, on point with one another.
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And he's, uh, you're absolutely right. If you're
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in that foxhole and you're fighting each other
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in that foxhole and trying to make the other
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one be correct, then you ain't going to win that
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war. You're not going to win that war. Something's
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going to happen. Kudos. Kudos to you on that.
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Here's the caveat to that, though. That's what
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I was waiting for. That's what I'm talking about.
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Let's go. Let's go. You have, okay, we've had
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these conversations before. And we've all known
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those dudes. Hell, some of y 'all might have
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even been those dudes. Where I've had friends
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that were, quote unquote, the ladies' men. And
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I'd watch them in their approach. If they meet
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10 chicks, they want all 10. Like if they identified
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them, they want all of them. So what they're
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going to do, they're not going to be up front.
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They're going to wait to see what girl number
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one wants. They're going to tell her what she
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want to hear. They're going to wait to see what
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girl number two wants. They're going to tell
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her what she want to hear. And I watched them
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do that approach. And they would get all 10.
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But there would be all kinds of drama associated
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with them because they told each of those chicks
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a different story. Can I say one thing? Can I
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say one thing before you continue? Let me finish
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this analogy. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. All
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right. Go ahead. Finish this analogy there. And
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sitting back and watching that approach and seeing
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all the drama that came with it, it's like, yeah,
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you got all 10, but damn, was it worth it? I
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took the approach of, all right, well, let me
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just be honest with what I'm looking for. You
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know what I'm saying? Now, I didn't get all 10.
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I might only get three. But then I would go to
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another 10, do the same thing, and I might get
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three more. And then I go to another 10, say
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the same thing, be honest, and then I might get
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four out of them. So now I got my 10, you got
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your 10. Now you only went through 10 to get
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your 10, but you're dealing with a whole bunch
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of headaches. Whereas I went through, I had to
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go through 30 to get my 10, but I ain't playing
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no games with nobody. So I say that to say, when
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these couples are out here looking for these
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guys, we know a lot of guys, they'll say what
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they need to say. They'll lie. They'll pretend.
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They'll play a role. When really all they want
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is one thing, but a couple more. Ain't that what
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you said you did earlier? Exactly. If they're
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only looking for notches on the belt. If they're
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only looking for notches on the belt, then yeah.
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You know, yeah. That's that buster that we talk
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about. What I talk about. Some of them busters
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got silver tongues, though. But Mike, ain't that
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what you said you did earlier? With what? Because
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you just said you get a guy who's saying different
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things to different women to get what they want.
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But now in the beginning of this thing, you said
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that you have something in your bag for every
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couple. Yeah. So that's saying different things.
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Hey, what's the difference? There's a big difference.
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Between somebody that's adaptable versus somebody
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that's lying. But why can't a person be adaptable?
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So if we take that same thing, what about the
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third person? You got the scumbag who's lying.
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Then you have the adaptable person who can still
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go and talk to all 10 of them. And then you have
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the one who only has the ability to talk to a
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specific type. Now you've established earlier
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that you're not going to, you don't have to talk
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to specific type because you have something in
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your bag for everybody. You know what I'm saying?
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But as a dude and, and the ball busting in now,
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that is a male thing because we are hunters.
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Men are going to adapt. We will always in the
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lifestyle as there are a very small percentage
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of dudes in the lifestyle seeks out one type
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of couple because we've learned. that the lifestyle
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and lifestyle relationships are all unique as
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a fingerprint. So there really is not a one -size
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-fits -all. As a guy, you have to be much more
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adaptable because you're going to have way fewer
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options. But there's a difference between being
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adaptable and being a liar. No, no, of course.
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I said I was busting your balls about that. That
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was a ball bust. That was a setup. So I told
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you I'm throwing rocks. But but as a dude in
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the lifestyle, because we have a lot less options,
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because when you think about let's break it down
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to how the behaviors are. A couple. You know,
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in the the overflow of options category, you
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have the single female. Her options, her options
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to get what she want within the lifestyle is
23:46
her cup runneth over. OK, she has to do the same
23:52
thing that the couples do and shift through shit.
23:55
Then you have the couples. Now. In general, and
24:02
I'm going to concede to you this, this fact,
24:05
this point. In general. Most couples. Have it
24:12
harder than most single men because most couples
24:17
within the lifestyle, just like in vanilla world,
24:22
are not 100 % honest with each other about their
24:26
desires and their needs going into it. Most couples,
24:30
as they begin to grow, oftentimes they grow in
24:34
different directions and it takes them years.
24:38
To feel comfortable enough to come back and say,
24:40
hey, honey, I really am into this. And she's
24:43
like, oh, shit, I'm really into this. And then
24:45
they start to converge together again. All right.
24:49
Now. If we're talking about quality couples who
24:55
are on the same page with each other, who are
24:58
working as a team. Their life is much, much easier.
25:04
than out of a single male because that couple
25:06
still have more options. And that couple, once
25:10
they mature a little bit, they start to understand
25:13
that a lot of that shit in the basement that
25:16
they thought was shit was not actually shit.
25:19
They just didn't look close enough because they'll
25:23
start learning that when they start interacting
25:26
with more guys and realize that as a dude, anything
25:30
that I say to get one couple, is going to turn
25:33
off 10 more. So they start realizing when they
25:36
get contacted by a guy that says, hey, how are
25:39
you? That's because anything he says past, hey,
25:43
how are you? One of you are going to have a problem
25:46
with it. Oh, he's not smart enough or he's not
25:48
this. Hi, how are you? It's just a way of him
25:51
saying, hi, how are you today? And give you a
25:55
given, making you look at his profile and say,
25:57
I do or do not like them. And then the couple.
26:00
Where there are two people get to kind of set
26:03
the tone. And now because you and I, like you
26:06
said, you have something in your bag and you're
26:09
adaptable. Now I can adapt to the energy that
26:13
they give me. So and that's just my standpoint.
26:18
When you start looking at the difference between
26:20
couples who are on the same page, couples who
26:24
are on the same page and then couples who are
26:26
on the same page with years of lifestyle experience.
26:31
So let me ask you a question. Do you ever reach
26:34
out to couples online? All the time. Is your
26:37
first message ever? Hi, how are you? And that's
26:39
it. It depends on what their profile says. If
26:45
they got like a 300 page pro, like if they got
26:47
a super long profile, you know, I will usually
26:51
say, hi, how are you? My name is. I noticed your
26:55
profile. Please take a look at my profile. If
26:57
I'm the type of guy that. you and your wife would
27:00
be interested in, please let me know. Because
27:03
that's it. But now I've had somebody respond
27:09
to me and say, if that's the best you can do,
27:12
you're not the one for us. And I laugh at it.
27:15
And I just say, thank you for your response.
27:17
I never get angry. But now here's the thing.
27:22
The arrogance. What was I supposed to say? I'm
27:28
just greeting you. If I saw you out in the club,
27:31
I wouldn't walk up to you and be like, hey, my
27:33
name is Mr. Mocha. I am 47 years old. I'm 5 '8".
27:37
I'm 230. I'm not 5 '8". Don't nobody tell me
27:41
I'm not 5 '8", god damn it. But anyways, I wouldn't
27:43
go through this whole monologue of the things
27:47
that people expect you to say on a profile. I
27:51
would like to have, you know, some interaction,
27:54
but... A lot of inexperienced couples or or couples
27:59
with too many options expect you to come forth,
28:03
bear thy soul, and then them to get to review
28:06
you and judge you and go, this person is not
28:09
worthy based upon the way he or she was feeling
28:11
that day. Now, those same people I will see out
28:14
in public or see at an event and they'll walk
28:18
up to me and say, hey, how are you? My name is.
28:21
And. I was smiling inside. And once we started
28:24
talking, oh, yeah, I reached out to you on on
28:27
this platform. Oh, really? Blah, blah, blah.
28:29
Oh, well, we have so many guys reaching out to
28:31
us. And so how many other guys have reached out
28:35
to you who are decent guys? And those are the
28:37
same couples who usually complain because they
28:39
went for the guy who's who buried his soul on
28:42
his profile, who is probably a super emotional
28:46
dude. No offense to the guys who bury their soul
28:47
on their profile. You know. And they're like,
28:50
oh, it didn't work. Well, that's because I was
28:53
trying to have a conversation, you know, like
28:57
I would if I already meet you in a regular place.
29:00
So it's very to me, it's a lot harder for a dude.
29:04
And I don't I'm not trying to make it seem like
29:07
I have a hard time getting because I don't, you
29:10
know. But it doesn't count because I've been
29:14
in lifestyle for X amount of years and we are
29:16
party promoters and we do all this. So I think
29:19
of if it's challenging for me with all of my
29:21
experience, what about all these other guys?
29:24
You know, how many guys have the same couples
29:27
that complain they can't find a good guy and
29:30
the ones who have been feeding Mike this Kool
29:33
-Aid, force feeding him the Kool -Aid, they be
29:38
complaining and they shit on. A whole group of
29:41
guys who would have been great guys and who would
29:44
have been worthy had they not had this holier
29:46
than thou. You know, you have to worship my wife
29:50
because I have one attitude. I don't have that
29:53
attitude. I'm humble when people reach out to
29:58
us unless they, you know, say some dumb shit
29:59
like, hey, I'm in town. I want to fuck. Well,
30:04
you got to do a little better than that. And
30:05
I'm actually reading that now. It's literally
30:08
a message that my wife got or we got on our profile
30:11
this weekend. We never spoken to this person
30:14
before. Don't even know the guy. Just Ham and
30:17
Tom want to fuck. No. But I'm done. I'm done
30:26
abusing Mike. Listen, Socrates, it's your turn.
30:33
I'm done abusing Mike because I have too much
30:35
fun doing it. It ain't never abusing me because
30:42
I know how you roll. You know what I'm saying?
30:47
I know how you roll. You know what I'm saying?
30:53
Come on in, nephew. All right, all right, Socrates.
30:55
Come on in, come on in. I want to piggyback on
30:59
the example that Michael was saying. So you got
31:01
a guy, he's lying. And I call that fuckboys,
31:06
right? So one of the reasons why I got into the
31:08
lifestyle, because I can't do that. I can't keep
31:11
my lies straight. You know, I don't like dealing
31:14
with two women on drama, not ten. So my thing
31:18
for you, cousin, is it's the same thing. We was
31:23
just talking about in Splash. A woman, a cuck
31:28
that lies, you was just putting me up on game.
31:30
You know these cucks be lying that they want
31:32
to help. But what they really want to do is they
31:35
buy and they want to suck some dick. So they
31:39
go through that process. And that's fine. Your
31:41
journey is your journey. And then some women
31:43
lie and say, yeah, I'll play with him or I like
31:47
him or I don't want this or I don't want that
31:50
to please her husband. And then me and Mr. Mocha
31:53
were talking about earlier today. Some people
31:57
lie about their own desires. Well, this is what
31:59
I want. Now what you really want is some other
32:01
freaky shit, but you don't want nobody to know
32:03
you want that. You know what I'm saying? So my
32:07
point is, that's why I call it a triangle, is
32:10
because my thing is this. The answer is be adoptable
32:14
and have a tool bag. You're a couple, be adoptable,
32:18
have a tool bag. You're a bull, be adoptable,
32:21
have a tool bag. You're a couple, you're going
32:24
to have unique challenges of being a couple.
32:26
They're not better, worse, less, more than anybody
32:31
else. You have unique couples in that dynamic.
32:33
You're a bull, you have struggles or things you
32:36
have to overcome or things you need to build.
32:38
You got to build a tool bag too. And what my
32:41
point is, is I disagree with Mr. Mocha because
32:44
he was saying, well, you know, you got two couples
32:47
that you got this couple that don't have their
32:50
stuff together. and they're struggling, well,
32:53
guess what? If the bull doesn't have his shit
32:57
together, he's going to be struggling too. He's
33:01
going to have problems too. So it's like he was
33:04
advising me, you know, man, know your kinks.
33:07
You don't have to tell nobody your kinks, but
33:10
know your kinks, man. Like Michael said, the
33:15
hard dick don't lie. You know, and you're going
33:17
to come up with some shit where your brain says,
33:19
I ain't supposed to like that. But your dick
33:20
said, well, hold on, we'll look a little bit
33:22
more into that. You know what I'm saying? And
33:25
so my point is, that's why I call it a triangle,
33:27
because I don't want to hear you got more problems
33:31
than me. Because I know what it's like when me
33:34
and my wife are on the hunt together, like Mr.
33:37
Mocha and Mrs. Mocha. I know how easy that is
33:40
for my wife to make the wife feel more comfortable.
33:44
I know that's easier as a couple than me having
33:47
to go to a woman and convince both of them I'm
33:50
the man. See, I don't look at it as convincing.
33:55
Because when you say convinced, that means you
33:57
feel like you're trying to sell something. No,
33:59
no, no. I know what you're saying. I'm not trying
34:00
to sell something. What I mean is I'm there.
34:03
I'm brushing my teeth. I'm going to the gym.
34:06
I'm learning body language. I'm learning how
34:09
to talk, spoke to folks in order to get her comfortable.
34:14
Like you said, I see somebody I like. Okay, I
34:17
like hourglass. She could be three hours, two
34:19
hours, or one hour. I don't care. I like hourglass.
34:22
Boom, there it is. I got an hourglass. She's
34:25
in my sight. Boom. I need to do something to
34:28
get her to feel comfortable. I need to get her
34:30
husband to feel comfortable. I need to get her
34:33
joking and laughing. I'm not funny. I'm the least
34:35
funniest brother around here. I got to learn
34:37
how to share some fucking jokes. I have to do
34:40
all these things. to work hard at trying to get
34:43
her to understand I'm the right guy for the job.
34:46
And I'm saying is that is, you got to do the
34:50
same thing. You guys got to talk together. The
34:53
bull can lie. The cut, the cut, the cut coaches
34:57
can lie and the bull can lie, but we all need
35:00
tools and a tool bag to me. Maybe. Okay. So when
35:06
I self evaluate, Maybe because of where I started,
35:12
which was from the bottom, as far as the confidence
35:16
aspect of things. Maybe my pendulum is swung
35:23
too far over to the other side. Because what
35:25
I've learned is if I'm not somebody's steelo,
35:31
game, bag, whatever, if I'm not their cup of
35:34
tea. The moment I learned that I'm not their
35:37
cup of tea, bro, I'm not thinking about it. I'm
35:40
not thinking about it. They're gone to me. Like,
35:43
that's just not weighing on my conscience. I'm
35:45
not, why is it so hard? I'm on to the next. So,
35:50
like I said, maybe my pendulum has swung too
35:53
far to the other side. Maybe it'll fall back
35:56
to the middle someday. But where it is right
35:59
now, I'm not trying to convince anybody. Like
36:03
I always quote Nas, I got no game. It's just
36:05
some bitches understand my story. I'm just going
36:08
to be me. I'm just going to spit what I'm about.
36:11
I'm going to spit what I'm looking for. If you're
36:13
not with that, good luck. Kick rocks. I'm out.
36:17
I'm on to the next. I'm on to the next. I know,
36:19
but there's a difference between being authentic.
36:24
Yeah, but maybe I'm not using it right. When
36:27
I say game, condense, that's all about look.
36:31
My mouth is my mouth, but I would rather come
36:34
with my mouth brushed than not. My clothes is
36:38
my clothes, but I would rather them be ironed
36:40
and proper and all of that. What I'm saying is,
36:43
I'm not talking about trying to convince you.
36:45
Are you saying that you want to be attractive
36:48
to someone? Is that what you're saying? You're
36:52
trying to make yourself attractive? It's not
36:54
just attractive. What I'm saying is, if it was
36:58
just as easy as... Oh, go down to the basement
37:01
and pick. And whoever's the best is the best.
37:03
But like Mr. Mocha say, some of them don't even
37:06
know they done picked something up. And because,
37:10
like you say, I've heard some crazy stuff. I've
37:12
heard people say, well, like you said, I mean,
37:15
damn near, you know, your eyebrows are not tailored.
37:20
Like, I don't do my eyebrows. My white woman,
37:23
I don't want my eyebrows to be manicured or whatever
37:25
you want to call it. I've heard people. say that.
37:28
So that's on you that you don't know how to pick.
37:32
And I'm saying it ain't easier or harder than
37:34
anybody else because you gotta get some skills
37:37
on how to pick. Like, I need to develop skills
37:40
on how to chase. I'm saying you taught me, hey
37:43
man, be yourself. You know? Be your authentic
37:46
self. I'm not mad if she doesn't choose me. No,
37:51
what I'm saying is the topic's still the same.
37:53
No. The topic is still the same. It's equal.
37:56
And if you got a unique challenge, that's cool,
37:59
but we all got challenges. And I disagree even
38:02
with you, Mr. Mocha. I'm not okay with anybody
38:04
saying any part of this triangle, well, we got
38:07
it harder. We got it harder over here. Maybe
38:09
you got it harder for something because you got
38:11
to deal with a bull and you got to deal with
38:14
a cuck or a cuck angster. Maybe you have to deal
38:16
with that, but that don't mean I don't have an
38:19
equal weighted problem over here that maybe you
38:22
don't have to deal with, but we both over here
38:24
having challenges. Needing to be attractive,
38:28
needing to handle our business, needing to overcome,
38:32
right, and deal with our unique challenges. I
38:35
understand your struggles. That's why we're in
38:37
the lifestyle. I mean, that's why we do podcasts,
38:39
because I want me and my wife's podcast to help
38:43
you with that. I want to give you as many tools
38:45
in your tool bag as possible. That's why we're
38:47
here. But don't come at me with, oh, we got it
38:50
worse. Let me ask you a question. Why is it so
38:53
important for you? for your struggle to be equal
38:56
to theirs? It's not important. No, no, no. It's
39:03
in your voice. It's important. It's important.
39:06
No, no, no. What I mean by that, let me explain
39:10
that. It's not that it's important. I have a
39:13
problem with anybody. I have a problem with anybody
39:16
trying to make their challenges or something
39:20
harder. Anybody else. And we brought this up
39:23
in the hot tub. I have a 501c3 called Young Black
39:28
Men's Academy. And my argument is only people
39:31
in the country that have a different excuse is
39:34
black people. Because we didn't choose to get
39:36
here. We were stopped at every turn. And we have
39:40
all kind of things trying to keep us down. The
39:43
Indians don't. The Indians don't. The Jews don't.
39:47
They got to deal with racism. They have to deal
39:49
with this or that. But they didn't have to deal
39:51
with us. But besides that, everybody else. Hold
39:55
on, hold on, hold on. You just did what you just
40:06
said you didn't want to happen. So you just said
40:09
black people have the right. Nobody can compare
40:14
their problem with the problems of black people.
40:17
You know what I'm saying? Two things I always
40:19
say, and I said it earlier. When it comes to
40:21
the lifestyle, I think that that's something
40:24
that's within the lifestyle. We ain't talking
40:30
within this conversation. We ain't saying that
40:33
you had, it's not the race that makes it easier
40:36
or harder. You know what I'm saying? And if you
40:39
step into the lifestyle and you know, you're
40:42
coming to lifestyle and saying, Oh, well your
40:45
plight can't be harder than mine because of this
40:47
or that. Then at this point you, You're dealing
40:51
with some of your own demons, so you shouldn't
40:54
even be in that space. But I will say this. In
41:00
my opinion, there are certain things and certain
41:04
categories where single guys are going to have
41:06
a harder time than couples. And there are certain
41:09
categories where couples are going to have a
41:10
harder time than single guys. All right. Just
41:14
like in a situation where right now we're just
41:17
simply we've only talked about. The initial meeting,
41:22
we haven't even talked about the emotional things
41:25
that, you know, couples and and singles go through.
41:31
I think Mike and I, our first debate was our
41:35
very first debate on cucks or couple couples
41:40
and hot wife couples versus single males was
41:44
we were talking about a situation. where a single
41:50
male and a wife got too close and it created
41:56
some emotional damage within the relationship.
41:59
And our debate at that time was Mike felt that
42:04
the male, single male, should have been careful
42:08
and he bared responsibility for not being aware
42:13
that the wife was falling for him. And he should
42:18
have basically stepped back and toned that down.
42:22
And me being me and my usual, me being me, I
42:30
was like, the fuck you mean? He ain't married
42:32
to her. They not married. Why does he have responsibility?
42:37
And then that's when, you know, me and Mike.
42:40
There I go being ethical again. Yeah, yeah, you
42:42
know, Mike being super ethical. Mike trying to
42:46
be ethical and me going, hey, that ain't my job.
42:50
My job is not. Don't be in the title, E &M. Hey,
42:57
listen. Ethical non -monogamy. Hey, but listen.
43:01
Hey, no man can be unethical. When he asked my
43:09
wife for consent. No man can be unethical with
43:14
any consensual act that he does with my wife.
43:18
Don't nobody got to call me and say, hey, your
43:20
wife said that you were OK with us playing. Man,
43:25
I'm not married to you. I appreciate you giving
43:34
me that respect. If you feel that's a respectful
43:37
thing, but my wife is my wife and me and her,
43:41
our shit is together. And she's the only person
43:44
I hold responsible for anything y 'all do. If
43:47
you did it with her consent and her permission.
43:51
And if you convinced her, if you conned her,
43:54
if you tricked her to give you some pussy, she
43:59
did it consensually. And so even if between her
44:03
and I, that wasn't a way to go. I'm married to
44:06
her. I've got a commitment to her. I'm not going
44:11
to be mad at that man because I'm not married
44:15
to him. If a dude can come take my wife, she
44:18
wasn't mine. I feel you on that. So that was
44:23
where, so that, so that's where we, we had a
44:26
good fight on that one. Me and Mike Duke, that
44:28
went out for forever. So, but now there's caveats
44:32
to that position. Ethical. Okay. Yeah. Like,
44:40
think about, okay, so here's the conversation
44:43
that Mr. Moop is talking about. My point was,
44:47
when we deal with these couples, especially the
44:52
newer couples, we, and I'm talking about experienced
44:57
bulls, like dudes that know they shit, right?
45:02
you know that you're bringing in an energy that
45:06
she's probably unaccustomed to. In other words,
45:11
you know that you're bringing, you know it's
45:14
possible for her to get caught up. So I look
45:18
at it a lot like, you know, you all have kids.
45:21
I'm sure at some point in time you chaperoned
45:24
a field trip. You know what I'm saying? And it's
45:29
like when you chaperone that field trip, You
45:32
know what the kids want to do. They want to eat
45:34
cotton candy and milkshakes and all that. And
45:37
then when you see them wanting to get on that
45:38
tilt the world, you're like, I don't think that's
45:40
a good idea. That's not going to match. You're
45:44
going to get sick. You know what I'm saying?
45:46
So that's kind of how I look at this. Like, I
45:49
know that it's possible for them to get caught
45:51
up because of the energy that I'm bringing into
45:55
this space that she's probably unaccustomed to.
45:59
So if I see things heading in that direction,
46:01
if I see her getting caught up ethically, I'm
46:07
going to put a stop to that. Like, hey, wait
46:09
a minute. This is not the direction that you
46:11
want to take this in. I get why you're feeling
46:14
what you're feeling. I'm going to be the chaperone.
46:16
You know what I'm saying? Because I've experienced
46:17
this. I've seen this. This is all new to her.
46:21
I mean, this is all coming at her fast. All these
46:24
feelings, all these emotions, all these thoughts.
46:26
So as the chaperone. I got to take a step back
46:30
and save her from herself. Like you about to
46:33
make a mistake that you really not trying to
46:35
do. Now what Mr. Mocha is saying is it's not
46:38
my responsibility to do that. If she wants to
46:41
do that, I should let her do it. I should let
46:44
her go ahead and make that mistake. All I'm saying
46:46
is ethically, I can't allow myself to make that
46:50
mistake because I've seen this movie. I've seen
46:52
this movie before. I ain't saying that that's
46:55
what I'm doing. Okay, let's just be clear. Let's
46:59
be clear. Let's be clear. We weren't talking
47:06
about me doing this to someone. We were talking
47:09
about a situation with somebody else and me saying,
47:13
it's wrong either way, but the bad guy is not
47:20
the single person. Because... It's the couple
47:26
who did not discuss what they, you know what
47:30
I mean? They didn't have that in their rules,
47:33
their boundaries, et cetera, et cetera. Didn't
47:35
communicate properly. And that happened. Yep.
47:38
And find me a woman who you can say, hey, listen,
47:42
let me save you from yourself. Okay? This dick's
47:46
so good, you're going to get caught up. So for
47:50
your own safety, I thank you. Hey, listen, I
47:57
say this often. My arrogance has boundaries.
47:59
Okay, I'm not going that far. And then remember
48:04
from experience. Like Kenny Rogers said, man,
48:08
you got to know when to fold them, bro. You got
48:09
to know when to walk away. You got to know when
48:12
to walk away. So now I agree. I agree. You get
48:18
a stage five clinger. Yeah, listen, I know. I've
48:21
been there. I've been there. So, but see, now
48:24
here's the thing. Like, we're not talking about
48:26
the guy who walked away. We're talking about
48:28
a guy who did not walk away when it was probably
48:32
the ethical thing to do. And not saying he wasn't
48:36
a scumbag because that guy is, I do have less
48:39
respect for a guy who going to go in and allow
48:42
himself to get caught up in that type of situation
48:45
with a man's wife within the lifestyle. Okay.
48:50
When you know that she's taking things further
48:52
than they're supposed to be taken and you're
48:54
taking it with her, that's unethical. But when
48:58
we start talking about who bears the responsibility,
49:01
I feel like you diminish women. By saying that
49:09
you, as a grown woman who has lived in this world.
49:15
And who is aware of your emotions and who's had
49:17
sex and who's experienced things. You don't have
49:22
emotional wherewithal to deal with me because
49:24
I'm not I can take away your common sense. No,
49:31
I feel like if you so horny and you allow your
49:36
vagina to be taken over by some dude. who ain't
49:43
been with you for the last X amount of years,
49:45
when you were sick, throwing up, when you was
49:46
having his babies, when y 'all was suffering
49:49
together, when all of these things was happening,
49:51
if I can show up with some dick and take you,
49:54
then the problem ain't with the dude that showed
49:58
up with the dick. Cause the only thing he provided
49:59
was a dick and a silver tongue. So would I be
50:04
mad at him? I'll call him a scumbag, but it wasn't
50:07
his fault. No. Is there just this super, irresistible
50:12
amount of swag? No. It's just you made a decision.
50:17
If a motherfucker show up with a billion dollars
50:19
and tell my wife, hey, divorce your husband and
50:22
marry me for this billion dollars, she got a
50:24
decision to make. I mean, I'm going to tell her,
50:27
you better do it and come back and take care
50:28
of daddy later, but that's irrelevant. But it's
50:32
the same thing if somebody shows up with some
50:35
great desirable dick and energy, she's wise enough.
50:40
and strong enough emotionally to make a decision.
50:43
I don't have super dick. I don't believe in super
50:46
dick. You know, I think I'm giving out some good
50:49
meat, premium, but not enough to make you get
50:53
up and without responsibility, like my dick hypnotized
50:57
you. I was dignitized. I don't know what I was
50:59
doing. It's his fault. Fuck that. So let me ask
51:03
you a question. Have you ever had a wife get
51:04
caught up? Yes, I have. I like how you begrudgingly
51:14
admit it. Now, did you do anything intentionally
51:21
to get her caught up? The silence is deafening.
51:31
Okay. All right, so I have to answer this question
51:36
a certain way. To the level in which she was
51:49
caught up? No. But... You know when you deal
51:58
with a couple and the husband says, hey, this
52:01
is what I want you to do. But you know what it's
52:05
like when the husband says, hey, I want you to
52:07
be... Her boyfriend, I want you to to make her
52:11
feel this way. I want you to communicate with
52:13
her throughout the day. I travel. I want you
52:16
to do this, this and this. And I say, you understand
52:20
what you're asking for. And he says, yes. And
52:23
I say, no, you don't. Let me explain to you how
52:27
this will go. And you tell me if this is what
52:30
you want, because I have been with couples where
52:33
the husband said he wanted it. She wanted that.
52:38
And I gave her that experience. And she was very,
52:43
very much into me. And we had a really great
52:46
relationship. I have had a few situations where
52:50
I've had a situation where the husband changed
52:59
his mind. I was never intentionally trying to
53:04
make. A woman leave her husband. And the conversation
53:09
that you and I originally had was, I believe,
53:11
somebody allowing the wife, either the wife was
53:17
going to leave the husband for the dick. I never
53:20
did that. But do I always put my best foot forward?
53:25
And if you say, hey, I want her to experience
53:28
real emotions and I want you to develop a real
53:31
bond with her, you know, especially at the time
53:34
when I was single. Oh, you're going to love me.
53:39
Now, if you start... I think you told me something
53:43
before because of what you had experienced, what
53:47
your mindset was when you first got into the
53:49
lifestyle. It might even have been before you
53:51
got into the lifestyle. You were trying to break
53:54
people up. No, no, no. That wasn't lifestyle.
53:57
That wasn't lifestyle. That was... After I got
54:02
my first divorce and my feelings was hurt, I
54:04
was out there being a scumbag with non -lifestyle
54:07
married women. I was the only fucking married
54:10
woman. You're the homewrecker. No, hold on. Let's
54:14
get this straight. I wasn't trying to make them
54:16
leave their husband. I was just trying to make
54:18
them cheat on their husband. If we're going to
54:19
be honest, let's be honest. I didn't want those
54:23
responsibilities. But keep in mind, this is before
54:26
Lifestyle, so don't judge me. I was honest about
54:39
my scumbaggery. Okay. I was honest about it,
54:43
but that scumbaggery did not, I wasn't doing
54:46
that in the lifestyle. That scumbaggery was outside
54:48
of lifestyle. And when I was being a scumbag,
54:52
I knew I was being a scumbag. You know what I'm
54:53
saying? And even still. I take my dick out of
54:56
somebody and be like, hey, hey, hey, hey. Be
54:59
nice to your husband this weekend. You've been
55:00
out here fucking. You know what I'm saying? I'm
55:02
not trying to take you. I'm just trying to get
55:04
a little bit of ass. You wanted to show up at
55:06
your doorstep. Like, I left him. Hey, hey. Hey,
55:10
they knew better than that. But, hey, I was young.
55:14
I mean, I was in my 20s at that time. And I was
55:18
mad. My feelings was hurt. I was mad. Savage.
55:21
Animal. Savage. Animal. But hey, had she left,
55:25
it still wouldn't have been my fault. Let the
55:31
church say amen on that. Mike, I got a question.
55:36
Let the church say amen on that. Me and you believe
55:38
in. Preach. You said what now? Mike, I got a
55:42
question. Me and you believe in super dick. I
55:44
know Mr. Mocha don't. I believe in super dick.
55:47
But here's the fucking thing. Mr. Mocha's the
55:48
most super dickish out of all of us. I know.
55:51
I know. I know. Hey, man. Watch your mouth. Watch
55:54
your mouth. Watch your mouth. Hey, you got the
55:57
Sigma male over there. Hey, y 'all ain't even
56:01
talking. I'm not going to put his business in
56:03
the streets, but hey, he being quiet. Let me
56:07
say this. Let me say this. It's funny. It's funny
56:10
how, you know, you guys have been talking about
56:13
that. And no one has, like, really thought about,
56:17
I'm living this right now. In the trouble that
56:21
I'm in. You know what I'm saying? I'm actually
56:23
living this right now. Okay? Maybe not the fact
56:26
that I went into it trying to make somebody leave
56:30
her husband. No. But the fact that, yeah, she
56:33
did get caught up. Yeah, she saw another side
56:37
of me. like three or four different sides of
56:40
me other than just the fool. And boom, it became
56:43
like y 'all saw it, saw it, you know, at Splash,
56:46
the holding of the hands and then, you know,
56:48
the husband is there and we all hate thruffle.
56:51
So, you know what I mean? That's just funny to
56:54
me that like nobody's really like thought about
56:56
that and asked me, you know, who be, you know,
56:59
what did you do or, you know, how did you, you
57:02
know, navigate? Oh, I thought about it. I just
57:04
went and threw rocks at you. Let's do it again.
57:07
I mean, I know the answer because we've talked,
57:10
but if you want to bless the congregation, what
57:13
kept you from blowing it up, like blowing their
57:18
shit up? No, I had no intention of blowing their
57:23
stuff up. No, no intention. Never. That's never
57:26
my intention. Could we call it ethics? Could
57:29
we call it ethics? My ethically appropriate word?
57:36
You can. You can. You can. You can. You can.
57:41
But at the same time, though, you know, I saw
57:45
something in her. I saw something in her that
57:51
reminded, you know, she was kind of like the
57:53
female version of me. You know what I mean? Especially
57:56
sexually and all that stuff like that. But there
57:58
was another side that I saw to her and them.
58:01
You know what I'm saying? So that made me show
58:04
them one other side of me. And again, planets
58:09
lined, you know, are lined up. And next thing
58:11
we know, you know, hey, we're going, you know,
58:14
to places all three of us holding hands. You
58:17
know what I'm saying? So that's, but at no time,
58:21
though, did I go into it like I did when I was
58:25
like Mocha in my 20s. I was just wanting to.
58:29
You know, hey, it ain't my fault. You know what
58:31
I'm saying? I'm just laying it down. If it happens,
58:34
it happens. And like I said, y 'all should have
58:36
talked about that. You know, I'm just being Brian.
58:39
That's it. I'm just being that BBC bull coming
58:43
in and laying it down. And then, you know, if
58:46
I check off all the boxes and, you know, she
58:48
falls, then so be it. But, you know, I'm like
58:53
Rakim, you know. In the song, I got to hit the
58:56
streets and I'm done, you know what I'm saying?
58:58
I'm gone. I'm gone. Bust three and flee? Huh?
59:04
Nothing, go ahead. No, I'm just saying. I said
59:08
bust three and flee? Hey man, hey man, that's
59:12
it. You know, that was it. That was it. That
59:15
was my M .O. Back then in my 20s and, you know,
59:18
really the start of the 30s. Hell, the 30s too.
59:22
That was the M .O., bro. Especially, you know.
59:24
getting introduced to the escorting world along
59:27
with it. So, hell yeah. I ain't have no damn
59:29
fucking emotions. It was just come in, you know,
59:32
play and roll out. But are we talking about two
59:37
different things? Because I believe in Super
59:39
Dick and you can come with Super Dick, but it's
59:43
still not my responsibility. To me, Super Dick
59:48
is us. I read them. Me and you read body language
59:52
books. Man, come on. We spend hours in the gym,
59:55
right? I've read books on how to talk to women,
59:58
how to approach. You know, I'm a master at this
1:00:01
shit, right? So I'm going to be able to, like
1:00:05
you said, well, I didn't do that much to make
1:00:08
her that. crazy with me no brother you not in
1:00:11
your mind but you put some super dick on her
1:00:13
and she went crazy on some stuff you didn't think
1:00:16
she was going crazy on but she went crazy because
1:00:19
you were thinking i'm in atlanta there's all
1:00:22
these women around me or there's all these other
1:00:25
things around me some women don't have that kind
1:00:28
of know how to deal with a guy that is you know
1:00:32
like say dark gable know how to speak to women
1:00:35
deep voice Big hands, so you already know they're
1:00:38
assuming you packing. You know, all this stuff
1:00:40
you got, man, that's super dick. Allergic reaction.
1:00:44
He got that allergic reaction and everything.
1:00:45
He just swollen all over the goddamn place. Walking
1:00:51
around, he got a fever and allergy. Like, all
1:00:57
I got to do is rub peanut butter on my whole
1:00:59
body. And the next thing you know, he's got muscles
1:01:02
in his toes. Nah, listen, but y 'all keep the
1:01:04
super dick. I don't know what y 'all talking
1:01:18
about. Y 'all clowns. Y 'all clowns. Listen,
1:01:31
old age is solving that problem for me. But,
1:01:35
you know, hold on. We got to get back on the
1:01:36
super dick concept because the only reason I
1:01:38
came over to super dick. So, first things first,
1:01:42
the whole super dick thing was me fucking with
1:01:46
Socrates about something. That's where that came
1:01:49
about. The whole super dick concept came up because
1:01:53
I was saying that it's not possible for somebody
1:01:57
to walk in and just completely hypnotize a group
1:02:02
of women. and make them forget everything about
1:02:05
themselves and, and make them bear no responsibility
1:02:09
for being inappropriate because, you know, some
1:02:12
person, because some dude came in who was attractive
1:02:15
with, you know, with a, with a bunch of charisma.
1:02:20
And so him and I was having this debate back
1:02:22
and forth, back and forth. And I was like, so
1:02:24
you think there's a such thing as super dick.
1:02:26
That's what you think. And he's like, yes. And,
1:02:29
and so therefore, Now, look, when I was saying
1:02:34
it originally, I was pissing him off. He was
1:02:38
pissed off when I first said it. That's how I
1:02:42
knew he was really my friend, because he talked
1:02:44
to me after that conversation. That's how I knew
1:02:50
he was really friends, because I was like, I
1:02:53
wasn't even going easy on him. And he talked
1:02:55
to me like the very next day, like, oh, shit,
1:02:57
we are cool. I'm not saying that a dude can't
1:03:03
show up and provide a woman with a great experience.
1:03:07
In fact, I'm not saying that a guy can't show
1:03:10
up and provide a woman with an experience that
1:03:12
makes her fantasize about a different, an alternate
1:03:15
reality because everyone's been there. We done
1:03:19
had some pussy that's so good that it's like,
1:03:20
damn, what if I had this every day? I mean, I
1:03:23
done thought about, damn, I wish I could move
1:03:25
her into the basement. Maybe her and my wife
1:03:28
can be sister wives. That kind of pussy scares
1:03:32
me. Yeah, I think a lot of my wife looks like
1:03:34
she's about to shank me. That shit scares me.
1:03:37
Yeah, listen, bring it on. If I die, I die. I
1:03:42
had a buddy of mine, he kicked all his friends
1:03:45
out of his house when his girl came to stay with
1:03:47
him. Turned his back on all of us, and I was
1:03:49
like, I hope I never find pussy that good. That
1:03:53
kind of pussy scares me. but it's not super pussy
1:04:05
it's a person it's an adult making a conscious
1:04:08
decision to do what they want to do I don't believe
1:04:12
in excusing behaviors because of outside sources
1:04:14
there's no pussy good enough to make me leave
1:04:17
my wife okay there's no dick good enough to make
1:04:20
her leave me Where it's not saying she she can't
1:04:25
be taken away, but it's not because the dick
1:04:29
came in and boggled her mind to a place where
1:04:33
she's forgotten all 15 years and everything that
1:04:36
we went through. And she bears no responsibility.
1:04:39
Honey, I couldn't turn down the penis. Like,
1:04:43
no, no, it's she's a grown woman. She decided
1:04:46
she rather that and she decided to take a risk.
1:04:49
That's my thing when it comes to anything, when
1:04:51
it comes to like a couple where there's a bull
1:04:54
and there's a wife and the wife decides, you
1:04:58
know something, I'm going to leave you because
1:04:59
I want to be with my bull. Okay. No, his dick
1:05:04
ain't that good. She's not dumb. Can I say something?
1:05:08
I think, and I get why we're doing it, but I
1:05:12
think we're all kind of, and I'm taking a conversation
1:05:16
somewhere where we hadn't. intended it to go.
1:05:21
But I can't do this without being real. I think
1:05:25
we're ignoring the elephant in the room. I've
1:05:28
heard the term mentioned several times in this
1:05:31
conversation. We all belong to the same lifestyle,
1:05:34
which is what? Let me rephrase that. We've all
1:05:41
been to Splash. What is the theme of Splash?
1:05:47
Generations. Generations? Who's looking for what?
1:05:52
They're looking for black men. Here you go. Here
1:05:55
you go. This brotherhood's for men whose stories
1:06:15
need to get told. Say it loud. Say it loud. This
1:06:20
is who we are. Bold, confident, seductive. Dominant
1:06:24
and classy. We stand tall, never fall. Bull brotherhood.
1:06:30
Luxury untold.