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Episode 120: CEDIA Strikes Back (with, uh, a Battle of the Bands?) · Inside Integration

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  Welcome to the Inside Integration Podcast.
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  My name is Chris. I am joined again by my partner
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  Jason. What is up, everybody?
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  And we've got a little bit of a follow up to last week's episode
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  for, you know, the three people who listened consecutively.
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  The the CDA crowd was like, oh really, listen to those.
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  It's like, it's like as soon as that thing came out, like there
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  was a press release like and and I guess maybe somebody listens
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  to us. Probably not, but probably
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  entirely coincidental since nobody listens to this.
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  You think you, you think we're done?
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  Watch this pal. Here's a press release
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  announcing our next four, Our next 4 cities.
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  The biggest news that comes out of it is that they're they're
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  rotating away from Denver. So any of the Jason specifically
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  brought this up last episode? As if he's clairvoyant,
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  strangely. Enough.
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  I'm not. I'm not.
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  I did not have this information prior to the previous episode.
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  I found out after I think it actually news came out the same
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  day of our episode. So there's that.
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  You. Might be right, you might be
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  right, you know, And yeah, for legal purposes, Jason had no
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  advance knowledge of this whatsoever.
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  I did not. But.
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  Legal or otherwise. There, yeah, there was a you
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  know, they, they had an article in CE Pro that they are rotating
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  away from Denver and going from this year's show in September is
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  going to be in Denver and then next year's is in Vegas.
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  The year after that is in Orlando.
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  And then it goes back to Vegas in 2029 and then it goes to
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  Dallas in 20-30. If if Dallas still exists as a
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  city on the surface of the sun. What's interesting about that is
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  as a follow up to our last episode is that those are the
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  cities where Infocom are. So you know, CD is going to be
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  in Vegas. Infocom is in Vegas every year.
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  Orlando, same thing. That's an interesting situation,
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  but it kind of speaks to do you. Think they're conditioning us I.
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  You know, it seems convenient. Like let me tinfoil hat myself
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  here. Tinfoil hat time.
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  I mean, it, you know, Infocom is in, you know, it, it's sort of
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  Infocom is in Orlando in January, right?
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  And then it's in Vegas in June and CEDIA is either the second
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  week or 4th week of, of September every single year.
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  So they're, you know, they're close enough.
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  I, I mean, maybe, maybe there's a conditioning going on here.
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  Maybe there's, you know, maybe the, the future is that, I mean,
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  I don't know what it takes to like book and secure dates and
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  convention centers and that kind of thing and how easy it is to,
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  to back out of those and, and whatever.
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  But yeah, interesting. Right.
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  Like OK. There's there's a lot of layers.
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  To that, it's Orlando, it's Vegas.
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  I mean, I personally, you know, again, like the Expo Center in
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  Denver didn't seem like it was bursting at the seams, like they
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  needed more space. You know, to kind of speak to
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  your point where you said, you know, yeah, maybe the location
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  fatigue is real, right? Like integrators have been going
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  to Denver for five years or whatever.
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  It's been OK, well, let's go somewhere new.
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  I mean, why you would pick Vegas or Orlando, All right, but.
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  I mean, sure man. I mean, at least they decided to
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  go later in September in Orlando.
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  It's not like September 1st, it's September 26th through 20.
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  8th I mean dead center to hurricane season, for what it's
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  worth, but. Let's, I mean, come on, let's
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  let's roll the dice. If we're going to roll them,
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  let's, let's roll them together with everybody in the industry,
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  same city. Let's not just have.
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  Those are the best shows. Partially affected?
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  Let's make sure that the entire industry could be at risk.
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  That's how we're going to get new blood.
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  We're literally going to kill the old.
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  But the, it's a culling. I'm like, there's my, my first
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  thought, of course, is one more time in Denver.
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  So we'll play that Daft Punk song, you know, we'll get
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  through that. And then 2027 is Las Vegas, NV,
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  September 8th through 10. And, you know, there are a lot
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  of, you know, Vegas has its ups and downs with pricing and
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  reputation and all of that good stuff.
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  The the amount of attrition is something that I'm interested in
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  sort of measuring if there's a way to do that in Vegas, Like
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  how many people can survive three days in that city, you
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  know, unchecked, Unchained, you know, with, you know, the
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  copious amounts of booze and elicit whatever there is to do
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  provided by our own channel, let alone of the the native level of
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  debauchery that lives in said in said city.
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  And then you book in that with Orlando the next year after down
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  on International Drive, I'm guessing?
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  It I mean it would have to be right like.
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  I mean, it has like well cater. Let's let's be nice and say that
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  it caters to the convention crowd that may not be back for a
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  year, right? I got to say this like 2028
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  Orlando, FL I'm just going to go ahead and make a proclamation
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  right now. We're going to do an inside
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  integration, you know, secret event where if you sign up for
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  it, we're going to go to places in Orlando that I know that
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  don't suck are not near the Convention Center and we're
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  going to have a good. Time inside Orlando and then
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  we're all going back to your folks place afterwards.
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  Oh well, they live in Ocala now, so that.
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  Would be a weird be a weird trip.
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  On horse there will be, there will be chime clocks, there will
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  be shot because there will be there will be background noise
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  that will make everybody go, oh, I'm back at grandma's house, so
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  is this. Doily all right.
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  Yeah, exactly. So if you're a past listener of
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  this show, you'll know exactly what we're talking about.
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  But but yeah, it's, you know, sorry not to not to derail here.
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  It's sure it's interesting to say the least, you know that
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  that would come out right. So you know, there's this
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  acquisition news, right? And then right on the heels of
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  that, it's almost like, you know, there's, you know,
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  somebody felt a little bit threatened, Hey, we got to get
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  something out in the in the press or whatever and we got to
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  get. There's a quote in the press,
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  actually, if you you just happen to mention that Jason McGraw,
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  the group vice president of and show director, says our audience
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  has been clear. They value variety,
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  accessibility and the opportunity to experience the
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  show in different regions. So that's a clear rebuke of
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  we're not doing Denver again, bro.
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  Yeah, never, never to be seen again.
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  And you know, I, I mean, I'm old enough to remember when it used
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  to rotate and it was in Indy and like everybody hated Indy, you
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  know, after, after so many years, right.
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  And then nothing, nothing against Indy.
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  It's not a bad city. But like, you know, it, it's
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  sort of the show got a little stale in Indy.
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  And you know, it was in New Orleans for a little while and
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  it rotated around. It was in Dallas and, you know,
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  kind of bounced around, man, I, I really thought that Denver
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  was, was a good, you know, it was a good spot, right?
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  Like that seemed to be pretty easy to get to for the East
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  Coast or the West Coast or whatever.
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  You know, I I think maybe you're going to see some split
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  attendance and again, you know, with, I strongly feel like
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  you're going to see a lot more integrators who go to Infocom
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  and maybe give it a shot right now that, you know, light a
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  palooza is part of that. Like, OK, well, you know, maybe
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  Denver, maybe this is going to be my last CD or maybe I'm going
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  to skip the CD because I know I'm going to go to Infocom at
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  the next one and see, you know, see how that goes and, and
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  what's there for me? Yeah, man.
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  You know, they're this is this is an adaptation, right?
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  Like this is, you know, they're, they're, they're, they're
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  dancing. They're they're, they're
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  definitely dancing. Changing venues is interesting.
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  I would have much rather see them turn around and say, you
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  know what, we're going to have two full days of, you know,
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  targeted education. It's still going to be in
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  Denver. But these are the things that
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  we're going to make different about the show and give people
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  compelling reasons to go wherever.
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  Because you know, it's if, if there's a compelling reason to
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  go, people are going to go, whether it's in Fargo, ND or New
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  Orleans or Vegas or I hope. It's not in Fargo.
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  I think that would be, I think you'd get a ton of people go to
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  Fargo just because when else are you ever going to go to Fargo?
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  You know you're. How would you get there?
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  Would you take a buggy and a horse?
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  Like what I think? I think Stagecoach would be the
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  move, you know? Do you have to do it on the back
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  of a Harley? And like you got a ride?
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  There's a, there's a one, there's A1 percenter transit
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  system where you have to ride on the back of a Harley.
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  Some some big guy's bagger. Yeah, you're riding a.
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  Bitch. Oh, you're definitely not
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  driving yourself. Into the way well, you know, and
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  I mean that brings up an interesting point like maybe
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  just have CEDIA in Sturgis every year like that area could use
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  something I don't know yeah, it just seems like we're we're less
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  of a, you know, topless floppy organization than than than.
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  Would yeah, we're we're less of a, you know, we're less 2 band
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  aids and a cork and more of a, you know, bubble, bubble coating
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  on clouds type of scenario, right?
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  Like that's kind of our, it's kind of our vibe, but right.
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  Trainers and yes, sweat suits, polo shirts, Yeah.
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  Age inappropriate shoes on a 70 year old man, it's all good.
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  It's all good. It's all good, God damn it.
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  When I look at when I look at the rest of this news article
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  here with the press release around this change, it's saying
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  that there's a bunch of other changes that have been offered
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  through feedback, which is kind of fun to look at here.
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  What? And it brings me back to a
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  different time. So it says here.
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  Additional updates to the show's upcoming 2026 outing include a
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  revamp set of educational and thought leadership.
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  Programming. As well as several
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  extracurricular updates that include a new installation skill
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  challenge. Bringing it back.
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  Battle of the Bands and will take place at opening night and
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  post show festivities. So see to bring it back to the
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  Ogs man. I like that.
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  I like that. You know, I think that's, that's
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  an interesting area. I think it's, you know, you,
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  you're seeing less and less, you know, field level technicians
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  who are going to take part in that sort of thing.
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  So, you know, I hope it gets some good whatever.
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  You're not going to see principles out there, and that's
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  kind of what CD has become is. I want to see Ty Meyer loading.
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  I, I don't think tie with a full head of steam, I don't think
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  could be beat. I don't.
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  Think I I mean, I said I'm saying that in earnest like I
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  wanna save some of these guys that are are legit that can
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  throw down, you know that that built these boxes really get in
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  there and make it happen and show their guys how it's done.
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  Super fun. I think, I think you would be
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  able to pull that. But yes, that specific example
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  that my money would be on that man for sure.
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  Absolutely. Especially against never.
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  Mind yeah anyways. But but no, I, I think that's, I
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  think that's an interesting thing.
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  Like I remember again, being a young tech and going to these
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  things and like, you know, we, we brought, you know, the, the
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  biggest animal in our crew to do that 12 channel speaker craft
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  amplifier launch competition and.
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  Oh, how far can you throw? It remember, I mean remember
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  those days like speaker? Craft throw the Niles throw the
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  ZR 1200. Whatever the heaviest whole
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  house amp that they can get their hands on and get
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  sponsored, that was the one that you would Chuck.
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  And yeah, we had this giant bowl of a man throw this thing and
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  did really well, you know? But yeah, but those are the fun
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  things. And you know, if if they're if
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  they're kind of carving out like that first night of of the show
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  for those activities, I think that's a good thing because
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  that's typically there were some things that were, were done, you
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  know, during during that time period.
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  But it's kind of morphed into like, OK, well, that's when you
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  take vendors to dinner and that's when you do this.
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  And that's when, you know, maybe you take your team out or
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  whatever. If CD is carving that out and
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  it's not just the award show or, or, you know, whatever else
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  they're trying to do, Like I think that's a good thing.
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  You know, that kind of keeps the keep the party rolling a little
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  bit. Well I clicked on Battle of
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  Bands just because I thought that would be.
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  It was a hyperlink and it actually says that they are
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  opening the First night event to include a Battle of the Bands.
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  So if you know Jimmy Paschke, I know you're out there.
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  Listening and. I know.
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  Yeah. Well, Daniel Nilson, there's a
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  few guys that I can think of, Chad Russell, like there's a few
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  folks that I know that either can sing or perform or dance or
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  produce or do something like I'm interested to actually get get
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  my eyeballs on maybe some of this Like that actually sounds
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  kind of fun. They got to, they really got to
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  make sure that they market that because that I remember, I
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  forget if it was last year or two years ago, like they did
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  some pickleball thing and there was, you know, there was some
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  chatter about that, but it wasn't it wasn't really.
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  Well, that was. You know, that was, that was
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  John Siaka kind of doing that on his own.
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  I don't think that was. Well, no, there was.
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  It was a whole CD of thing and sanctioned.
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  Oh, was it? Yeah.
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  It was a whole deal and see, and that's that's what I'm saying
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  that information that's probably.
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  Positive that their marketing campaign didn't land properly.
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  I thought that was John's deal. Thank you for making my point.
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  And, and it may have started that way, but it absolutely was,
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  was, was a thing. And like, you know, I just don't
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  know anybody who really kind of did it or got into it.
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  But like, that's the stuff they need to push.
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  Here's your community, you know, hey, we're all part of a
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  community. Let's, you know, let's watch
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  this battle of bands and root for this guy or do this or
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  whatever. And then, you know, the
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  installation skill thing, if, if I remember correctly, it was
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  like the amp toss. It was like how fast you could
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  fish a wire in a wall. Like that's fun, man.
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  Like that's, that's some fun stuff.
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  And as long as they market it right and push it and put a
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  focus on it, that should be something that's, you know, that
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  should be the thing. I mean, honestly, if they were
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  not that they're, you know, not that they would ever do this,
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  but if they turned around and every CD of regional, it's
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  probably too late to do this, honestly.
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  But like every CCD of regional Expo, if they had like, you
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  know, like, what is it Ninja Warrior that does this?
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  Like, you know, you've got all your feeder events, you know
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  what I'm saying? Like.
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  American Ninja Warrior. Yeah, there's much point.
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  Like an American installation warrior, you know, you could
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  build this thing, but you know, there's all these regional
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  events you could do, you know, you could have kind of a
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  filtering thing. And like, you know, maybe the
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  winner of the regional events gets a free ticket to CEDIA or
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  something like that. Just to encourage, you know,
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  more than just the principle of a company, you know, to, to go,
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  you know, that's just my thought.
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  But yeah, man, it's, it's encouraging to see stuff like
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  this. I, I still think it's
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  interesting, you know, that somebody had to put out a press
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  release to basically say, Hey, we're not dead, You know,
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  that's, that's interesting, but. Well, yeah, yeah, it's people
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  will go. Sure.
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  I think so. It's funny, I was just thinking
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  about that installer skill challenge and it made me think
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  of a show topic that we should write down for for another day
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  or or pencil in for for another slot.
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  But we should talk about like the first tool time you used the
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  tool that like transformed your experience as an installer, like
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  glow rod or like you know what you drilled through a top plate
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  and then you got down to a fire break or something like that and
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  drilled through that, like that feeling of accomplishment.
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  I don't know, I first time I remember seeing trying to think
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  of what the tool was, but like, oh, like like low rods where
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  they were where you screw them together and they were pulled
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  down with the with the drop chain and all of that stuff.
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  I remember the first time I actually saw that executed
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  properly and like what a like light bulb on moment that was he
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  as somebody hadn't couldn't like visualize it without actually
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  seeing it changed my life. So anyways.
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  Not to pivot on that and let's not let's not steal this for for
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  the next show since we're so tough to come up with topics.
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  But I mean, I would tell you, you know, one of the ones for me
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  that stands out is, you know, it's the the trim removal tool,
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  right? Like when once, once you saw
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  somebody who was really good at taking off trim so that you can
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  retro a wire in a, in a baseboard, like that kind of
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  changed my life. That really gave me a.
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  Hole. Absolutely.
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  I mean, hey, yeah, here's how to pop the trim off.
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  Here's how to put it back on without anybody ever known you
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  did it, and now your wire is from point A to point B.
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  Call it a day, yeah. Any Let's go get a Taylor ham.
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  Pork. Roll.
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  Sorry, that's you. I was.
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  South Jersey pork roll. Make no mistake, Sir.
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  Yeah, I forgot. I forgot who I was talking to.
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  Just. Terrible, but yeah, I mean it
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  speaks to you know, it speaks to C DS relevancy, right?
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  Like who who is CD irrelevant to right?
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  Like where is the value coming from?
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  Is it coming from the principals?
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  Is it coming from the manufacturers?
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  Like who finds CD valuable? And what ways can CDA become
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  more valuable? And you know, the easy answer is
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  more training, you know, more more of a focus, right?
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  Flesh out your curriculum, come up with a series of web, you
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  know, webinar trainings and that kind of thing that you can, you
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  know, get certified and hire. You know, I think that that's
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  just the low hanging fruit, right?
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  Maybe, you know, it doesn't really matter what city it's in.
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  It's what is this organization giving me other than a once in a
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  year, you know, opportunity to see the other integrators who I
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  dislike, right? Like where?
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  Where is this coming from? Yeah, you have to make it
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  attractive, you know, outside of just what you're going to
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  experience with the vendors, I mean, or, or, you know, or shows
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  or, you know, physical interactions.
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  I mean, certainly the city doesn't really matter, but I
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  think it does matter. You know, I think Denver has
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  proven out that as great of a location as as it is and
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  convenient as it is for everybody to get to.
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  Yeah, just there's a, you know, the, the, you know, the baby is
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  cooked or. People are.
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  Tired. Yeah.
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  We're just. Yeah, everybody.
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  You know, that first year I remember there, everybody was
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  smoking weed and it was like woo.
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  I'm at the gummy place, yeah. Yeah, Oh my God, I'm so high I
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  can't even go to the show. Like, OK, well that's.
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  Great, that was a good filter that filters out the weak parts
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  of your organization. Yeah, like, OK, you haven't
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  smoked weed since 1985 when you were in college.
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  And like, chill out, relax. Don't, don't, don't hurt
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  yourself. We are before all else.
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  We are extreme nerds. That's really, you know. 100%
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  yeah. I mean, again, the stuff you
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  thought you were going to you were Billy badass in 1989.
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  It's a different world. You're you know, you're paranoid
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  and scared of clouds in 2020 is. Fully knocked on your ass in.
• 19:16
  Front of the show exactly you don't you don't want to be
• 19:19
  walking around like that. So let's let's tighten up again.
• 19:22
  I I think Vegas offers some sure unique opportunities for good
• 19:32
  and for bad. Yeah, sure.
• 19:34
  Orlando, I, I don't know, I think maybe my own prejudices
• 19:40
  aside, I think is a is not a bad choice.
• 19:43
  I just don't think it's a very fun choice for extracurricular
• 19:47
  after hours. So if it's yeah, but there's
• 19:49
  nothing to do on that end of international drive.
• 19:51
  Trust me, I know. You know that, that show,
• 19:53
  though, you'll see, you know, they'll, they'll do manufacture
• 19:56
  events at, you know, at, at theme parks, at special spots.
• 20:00
  It'll be, you know, it'll be a dinner here, dinner there or
• 20:02
  whatever and you'll see all that stuff come out and whatever.
• 20:04
  But like it, you know, like I was saying in our last episode,
• 20:08
  I don't know, you know, I, I think that ship maybe has
• 20:11
  sailed, right. Like you're going to get
• 20:13
  manufacturers that are, you know, they're seeing the Infocom
• 20:18
  and light a Palooza news and they're thinking like, you know
• 20:21
  what, we could just kind of maybe we just attract more Rezis
• 20:25
  to Infocom and. Save on our budget and now it's
• 20:28
  only in one city. Like I don't know, but that's
• 20:32
  you know, that that's my fear is that nobody wants to see CD and
• 20:36
  die. You know that Really.
• 20:37
  Is like our. That's our organization, right?
• 20:40
  Like we came up through this thing.
• 20:42
  But man, got to do, got to do something here.
• 20:45
  Got to do better, you know? And yeah, cities, Cities is a
• 20:49
  good start, right? Different, different place,
• 20:53
  although, man. Dallas, come on.
• 20:55
  Jeez. Yeah, come on, man.
• 20:59
  You know, obviously you can't go to Nashville because you know,
• 21:02
  it's not a Bachelorette party, but, you know, maybe.
• 21:05
  There's and it's a possible place, it's an impossible place
• 21:08
  to fly to extra. All of the great things that
• 21:10
  Nashville is. There's no direct flights there
• 21:13
  from a lot of places in the country, which is shocking to
• 21:16
  me. But it's not that big of a city.
• 21:18
  I mean there's less than 600,000 people that live there.
• 21:20
  Right, that's correct. And.
• 21:23
  Half of them are Californians. Right.
• 21:28
  I get. I just, I mean, I don't know, I
• 21:31
  just think about how great Denver is from the standpoint of
• 21:34
  you can fart and walk around and go see your buddies walking down
• 21:39
  the street, you know, because it's generally pretty nice
• 21:42
  there. You know, in September, sure,
• 21:43
  it's reasonable. Orlando's going to be oppressive
• 21:48
  at the end of at the end of September.
• 21:51
  Oppressive. Can I get a lot of people
• 21:53
  experiencing humidity for the first time?
• 21:55
  I feel. Yes, and you know, I mean, I, I
• 21:59
  for sure if, if that's what that trip's going to look like, I'm
• 22:02
  going to be stretching that out for some, for some beach time at
• 22:06
  the end of it. Maybe maybe we do like a, you
• 22:09
  know, inside integration beach getaway.
• 22:11
  Like come and hang out. Here's a negotiated rate and
• 22:15
  we'll we'll do hot dogs and we'll look for sand dollars on
• 22:19
  the beach. Just like a like a tailgate.
• 22:21
  Is it? Is it gonna be like when?
• 22:23
  When the washed up bands start doing cruises and that's their.
• 22:27
  That sounds like a great idea we'll get.
• 22:28
  Matthews Cruise, right? Yeah, we'll.
• 22:30
  Get Thanks for action. We'll get Scott, Ian to come
• 22:33
  and. What's this for again?
• 22:36
  Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly right.
• 22:39
  Yeah, We'll get a bunch of, you know, we'll get our three
• 22:42
  friends. We'll get, actually, we'll just
• 22:43
  get Johnny and Witt to come and hang out with.
• 22:45
  Us and we'll. Yeah, we'll have a good time.
• 22:47
  The the best, just literally the best two people just really, you
• 22:51
  know, I, I've, I've, I'm converted for sure yeah.
• 22:56
  But yeah, you know it, it'll no matter what, it'll be
• 22:59
  interesting and no matter what it'll, we'll, we'll talk about
• 23:02
  it for sure because. Well, we've got time to plan our
• 23:05
  outing, so we've got two years plus to to figure this out.
• 23:08
  You know, we don't do that. It's going to be like the week
• 23:10
  before we're going to be trying to pull something.
• 23:11
  Together the. Last moment like, just like our
• 23:14
  show, it's gonna. Be don't confront me with facts.
• 23:19
  Don't give me an honest assessment of of our time
• 23:22
  together. Until we don't do that, my ego
• 23:26
  can't take it. I mean, that would be great.
• 23:28
  And you know, maybe a Vixio, maybe a Vixio will buy us.
• 23:32
  You know, you need you need a mouthpiece.
• 23:33
  Let's let's go right. Like you need a couple of idiots
• 23:36
  to yell into the Internet for your for your Trade
• 23:39
  Organization. State media is all the rage
• 23:41
  right now. You can totally.
• 23:43
  Totally. Get us in here.
• 23:44
  But any who I think that's I think that's a good one.
• 23:48
  But yeah, that's, I thought it was real interesting that that
• 23:50
  news broke like right after and you know.
• 23:54
  Like, wow, let's let's let's look at this.
• 23:56
  And like literally as we're hanging up from the previous
• 23:59
  episode, I'm like, oh shit. Well, I guess that answers that
• 24:01
  we should we should talk about this.
• 24:03
  Absolutely. It's good to have a topic going
• 24:05
  into it instead of just flailing.
• 24:08
  But yeah, I mean, that's what we do here.
• 24:09
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• 24:13
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• 24:28
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• 24:31
  Yeah, take care everybody. Bye bye.