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- 0:17If you didn't know any better, you think it was summer. I unbelievable,
- 0:22the last home game of the year. Walking out there today like it's
- 0:26like first weekend of September, the oranges. Beautiful, delectable day out there.
- 0:32Man, it's gonna be perfect Saturday, was it? Yeah? Like
- 0:36fifties, I mean this time of year. Oh you take that seeling days.
- 0:42I mean you guys remember that time we played pitt late November. Field
- 0:46was frozen. That was a little cold. I saw six Eskimos walk out,
- 0:50bumped out. Too cold that night. Too cold. Hey, everybody,
- 0:54welcome in. It's three guys before the game, episode five oh five,
- 0:58And for the very first time, for the very first time in Big
- 1:03twelve membership, it's the Cincinnati preview of West Virginia. And we talked about
- 1:11this. This is not the renewal of a rivalry. It's the renewal of
- 1:15a team you used to play. It could be a v it can be
- 1:18it can grow into one, yeah, coach Sanderfield said, it could be
- 1:21a Yeah, it can grow into one. But right now, And we
- 1:23had talked to the radio analyst at the Cincinnata Network last night, Jim Kelly,
- 1:30and Jim Kelly. He said, you know, we played twenty times
- 1:34West Virginia's won sixteen, so he can't be a rivalry if the series is
- 1:38sixteen three and one, which is what it is. So maybe you do
- 1:42grow a rivalry. But in order to have a rivalry, stupid stuff has
- 1:45to happen, like crazy stuff has to happen. That leaves a scar for
- 1:49people. That's how rivalries. You know, something happens, something always happened.
- 1:53Something. I remember Nippett State Stadium, Nip Fondley and what I say
- 1:57Nippert same thing, Nip and the Bud. That was a that was a
- 2:00massive win in the rich rod Era hit the goal, hit the cross goal
- 2:05post, hit the post, in need of a win, needed to kind
- 2:07of jump start the thing. A lot of people think that might have been
- 2:09the one to kick you into gear there. It's that guy. Was that
- 2:10kicker's name Jonathan Ruffin? That might be right. I think it is the
- 2:16hit the upright three guys before the game. It's a horrifically blown replay review.
- 2:22In that game, Isaiah Peede was was not in no or fumbled whatever.
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- 4:01today, it was and the Conley folks came in. Mike was here,
- 4:05Sam was here, Kevin was here, and they said, they say,
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- 4:12He said, you know what, name the time you just you just
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- 4:18though, Yeah, not all no. So you can cut the camera here,
- 4:21Luke and so uh not only do they bring the lasagna. So Mike's
- 4:27wife, Samantha, she can open this. She makes these cookies. Don't
- 4:32spell them because I'm eating him later. Don't spell them. Well, don't
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- 5:16just like you are the biggest Debbie downer. I mean, just like always
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- 5:30in hives. He's the guy that had to run interference on the tailgate event
- 5:35and then Dave had to do the work, and you're just like, hey,
- 5:38guess what why don't you say we'll give away airplane tickets. I mean,
- 5:42just just make up stuff. I'll give you an airplane ticket one way,
- 5:49all right? Coming up on the show Textual Healing, we'll get a
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- 6:00oh yeah, so we're recording a little bit after noon, four o'clock
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- 6:15time. Yes, that's a specific time. It's set to launch, three
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- 6:32show you all that stuff. It's like Harry and David is very similar.
- 6:36Well, the only thing we don't have that Harry and David does are those
- 6:39pairs. I'll tell you what you get some of those pairs from Harry and
- 6:42David, Like invariably every year, Like somebody will send me those Harry and
- 6:46David Pears and there might be like I don't know how they come, like
- 6:47nine or twelve. I mean, when I start and they're ripe, they're
- 6:53ready to go, you just go. I mean, there is no question
- 6:57I can eat four of those and once just dropped forward. You are a
- 7:01big pair guy. Oh I love him. Yeah, I got I got
- 7:03about a half dozen at home right now in a brown back, trying to
- 7:05get him right. But Paris, have they one of those things? They
- 7:09got about a thirty six hour window short window? Yeah, yes, very
- 7:14You have to check them like periodically, and when it's ready, you just
- 7:15gotta go. You attack. It doesn't matter the time of day or night,
- 7:19whether you're just eight or you're gonna eat, you gotta eat it right
- 7:23then, just like when you there's no leeway on that back in August early
- 7:27September when you were in Africa, yeah, and you were on that safari,
- 7:30Yeah, and you saw like when it was time to eat for one
- 7:32of those animals, it's like it's time showtime. Yeah. Speaking of showtime,
- 7:39our first two thirty game of the season Saturday, as West Virginia closes
- 7:44the year. And as I said that, Kerchieval's brow did a big frown
- 7:49because I think I know that myself and Hoppy are sharing the same opinion.
- 7:57I don't know exactly where the Senator stands on this, but I am putting
- 8:01a flag into the air and calling this a beware upset alert game. I've
- 8:11either convinced myself where it's true one of the two. What do you think?
- 8:15Yeah, I agree, we were talking just a little bit in show
- 8:18prep, which was about twenty seconds before we went on the year. But
- 8:20no, I agree with you. Here's what worries me. You know,
- 8:24out we don't know what's going on in the Pushcar Center. But after the
- 8:28embarrassing loss to Oklahoma, it was, well, okay you finished with two
- 8:31wins, and okay, you win the next two. It don't worry you
- 8:35beat since any Bay, I mean almost like it was assumed. And what
- 8:37if we learned, Brad about this league? What have we learned is that
- 8:41there's a lot of equity equality in this league. Teams beat other teams all
- 8:46the time, and you cannot presume of what's going to happen. And I
- 8:52think this is a semi it's not a it's kind of a semi trap.
- 8:56I think West Virginia, who knows how they respond to coming off playing their
- 9:00worst game of the year, granted opponent adjusted, but their worst game of
- 9:03the year. Cincinnati got their first conference win. You hear the coach,
- 9:07you're talking about, Hey, finally things are coming together. You know,
- 9:09the run game is there, so they are playing with some confidence. I
- 9:16think this is a worrisome game for West Virginia. Concerned curtible concern curgible senator.
- 9:22Well, there's some matchup things that concern you, and I'd probably come
- 9:26off more concerned, except hearing him go off there that it's an automatic loss.
- 9:30So I'll try and bring some balances back on here. This one thing
- 9:33this team has done very well this year. It's bounced back from adversity.
- 9:37It's been able to write the ship and get back on track, especially at
- 9:39home. I know the Oklahoma State late turned into something a little bit different,
- 9:43but I think this team gets well this week. I think it comes
- 9:46out it has successful moving the football, and the offense rebounds. The defense
- 9:50is going to have a challenge. It's going to face a running game.
- 9:52We're gonna get into that in a minute. It's going to face an elite
- 9:54running game here and a quarterback that's every bit of Garrett Green running the football
- 9:58when he wants some specific things, you're gonna have to take advantage. But
- 10:01yes, this matchup, this isn't a just roll out and play and win.
- 10:07There's gonna be some challenges here, no question. This game will detect
- 10:11and determine and reveal the soul of the WVU football team. It will be
- 10:18revealed these next two. This one, well, I'm just one at a
- 10:22time because you know me, I just want to go on. I don't
- 10:24even know who we played next week, hop because I just play one game
- 10:26at a time. Anyway, can't wait for Waco anyway, it will reveal
- 10:31who you are. To your point, they had their most embarrassing loss of
- 10:35the season, no iff sands or butts, and now they return home for
- 10:39the one last time. The crowd will not be as big as it normally
- 10:45is because students are gone and it's hunting season, so just by nature,
- 10:50you're not going to have as many people there. You're going to have to
- 10:52bring it. If they come out and play at their level of efficiency that
- 10:58they have displayed at times this season they win the football game. If it's
- 11:03less than that, they put themselves in the crosshears to use a hunting analogy,
- 11:11they put themselves in the cross here to get surprised. To Brad's point,
- 11:16and he's going to get into stats here in just a second. The
- 11:18one thing that you might go the one thing you may know before we started
- 11:22breaking this down is hey, you know Cincinnati I lost seven in a row
- 11:24since now they didn't win until last week in the league. Yeah, but
- 11:30they also have the second best running attack in the league and it's really really
- 11:35good. And as you said, always have to be careful. You much
- 11:39rather play the statue of liberty as your quarterback, someone that just goes back
- 11:43and stands there and that you could pick off right just like stand back there
- 11:48and whack them. Well, this cat moves, and so you don't know
- 11:52what CJ. Donaldson's status is. You don't know what Doug Nester's status is.
- 11:56So this is going to have to be a self motivated performance by the
- 12:01Mountaineers, which makes the start of the game, the first quarter massively important.
- 12:07If you bring it and you have your energy, you're probably in good
- 12:11shape. If you are if you lag and lar laggard, and you're you're
- 12:16committing penalties and you turn the ball over early on in the game. Dude,
- 12:20dude, be careful. I'm really interested to see what spread zone stats
- 12:24has because when I just looked at the at the macro stats, they look
- 12:30pretty similar. I mean, what a lot of difference in the overall stats.
- 12:33You would not if you didn't know the records. You'd look at these
- 12:35stats and say, well, it must have pretty similar records. Yeah,
- 12:39And that's the thing. I know. Everybody loses their mind when you come
- 12:41out and say you got a challenge from a team that's trained seven and I'm
- 12:43going to say the cliche that comes with that. I think they're better than
- 12:46their record indicase they've had some close games. They just they've had turnover problems,
- 12:50They've had red zone problems that have that have switched games. West Virginian
- 12:54has been very good at what turnovers and red zones. I mean that changes
- 12:56you from a six win team to a three win team. So you've got
- 13:00to you're gonna have to play. Here's let me just give you. This
- 13:01isn't the spreads on stats. What are you doing? I'm gonna bonus he
- 13:05has stat because we just talked about the quarterbacks able to run it. Coming
- 13:09into this game. Emory Jones leads the Big Twelve in quarterback rushing yards.
- 13:13Excuse me, Emory Jones leads the quarter the Big Twelve and quarterback rushing yards.
- 13:18Garrett Green is third. Emory Jones leads the Big Twelve and quarterback rushing
- 13:22attempts. Green is third. You're getting two quarterbacks that can run it,
- 13:26will run it, have to run it for both teams. So you want
- 13:31early key which quarterback runs it better. There you go, and what happens
- 13:33we'd have to play a team has running quarterback problems. It's tough. Well,
- 13:37both ways they're saying the same thing. They're saying the same thing over
- 13:41here going on. I get this off and Garret Green's gonna take off and
- 13:43run it. But you know also that that running back Kiner, I mean,
- 13:46he's got to going now too, and he's almost he's like one hundred
- 13:50yards away from a thousand yards coming off of very solid performance. And coach
- 13:56Saderfield was talking about that said, Kiner's really come into his own and he
- 13:58said he's not a breakaway speed guy. He's tough guy, tough, got
- 14:01to bring down breaks, tackles, gets yards and what did he have against
- 14:07Houston? I mean a buck something. Yeah, he's like you say,
- 14:11he's realistically within a thousand yards. So to the quarterback question, really important
- 14:20game for Garrett Green, it was it was his poorest game at the season.
- 14:24How does he bounce back? Does that shake him confidence wise? Or
- 14:28does he does he ball out? It'll be really interesting because that tells you
- 14:33a lot about him as well. My guess is it's the latter. My
- 14:37guess is, oh yeah, okay, fine, Yeah, I didn't play
- 14:39well here it comes. That's what you better get. You better get that
- 14:43if you've got lingering impact from what happened there last Saturday. Not good.
- 14:50He of course, is far from a loan though. He can't. He
- 14:54can't do that on alone. If the guy's up front don't perform better as
- 14:56well, then you're in big trouble all the way around. I don't care
- 15:00what Garrett's thinking. Those guys up front have to get back to dominating and
- 15:03thisten. They're gonna get it. That's gonna be a great matchup to watch
- 15:05that interior of the West Virginia offensive line against the interior of the Cincinnati defensive
- 15:09line. That's a big boy on big boy right there. So you've got
- 15:11some really fun game within the game matchups here. You're gonna have to take
- 15:16advantage of Cincinnati's young corners. Can you do that? Can you run it
- 15:20enough to back them up so they don't know what's coming and then attack those
- 15:22young corners that they have. That's that's where the game is going to be
- 15:26decided. But every position group has to play better than Oklahoma, obviously,
- 15:28but those upfront guys, they can't get owned like they did in Oklahoma.
- 15:33Yeah, if you I know, when you watch the game, most of
- 15:39the time, we follow the ball, okay, but if you're going to
- 15:41go back and watch the game after the game's over, then watch their nose
- 15:45guard and West Virginia's Zach Frazier. So their nose guard is Dante Corleone.
- 15:52Don't put the d in there like the Godfather. It's not corter Leone.
- 15:54It's Corleone. Dante Corleone. He is a dude. He is a future
- 16:02NFL stud preseason All American. Watch him against Zach Frasier because you've got two
- 16:08of the best players in the country at their respective positions, and they'll play
- 16:12right over the top oftentimes of each other. So watch that one and if
- 16:17you can watch during the game, watch that and if not, go back
- 16:18and watch it afterward and see how that looks. So that is going to
- 16:22be a big, big key. So turnovers, they've Cincinnata forced three turnovers
- 16:29against Houston. Yeah they Hey on the rivalry that we were talking about rivalry
- 16:37right, yeah, no, not yet, but has the potential to be,
- 16:44you know, and and game with benefits. Is that what you're calling
- 16:47this? Scott Sanderfield called it that as well. He says this will be
- 16:49a natural rivalry going forward in the Big twelve. I mean there has right,
- 16:55Yeah, that's right, of course it is. Of course it is.
- 16:57Yeah, closest upon that you have. But you don't you don't have
- 17:00to worry now on rivalry week. You don't have to go nine thousand miles
- 17:03to Ames and try and force a rivalry week in there. You know,
- 17:07clearly Ames or Arizona, Utah for that matter, Ames is closer than Orlando,
- 17:12but that tells me, but not as close as Cincinnata. But that
- 17:15tells me that Cincinnati is I mean, they've bounced around conferences. So they're
- 17:21happy to be in the Big twelve. I'm sure that they're looking for that
- 17:22too. Sure they're looking for a rivalry too. So it takes two.
- 17:27Right, you can't go to Iowa State and say you're our rival. Well,
- 17:30you know you're not really, I mean, but welcome in. I
- 17:33mean, so you got to have them too. I think I think you
- 17:37have the chance here. Your your point is is well accepted and well taken.
- 17:42However, I think it'll be difficult for Mountaineer fans to embrace It's it's
- 17:52going to be hard for them to fully accept Cincinnati as a rival because in
- 17:57their heart of hearts, they know the traditional rivals are Pit Virginia Tech,
- 18:03Maryland, Penn State, although Penn State doesn't consider West Virginia arrival. But
- 18:08those are the foundational, those are the like, those are the ones you
- 18:12were born with, and so to adopt another one in it takes. I
- 18:17think it takes. Now you've got a better chance of Cincinnati becoming a rival
- 18:19than Iowa State. Yeah. And the other thing, I mean, people,
- 18:22all those teams you just named aren't played on a regular basis. They're
- 18:26not in the conference. This is going to be different. First, you
- 18:26know, we don't play these guys every year. That new schedule at came
- 18:30to five. I know that. I think that changes eventually. But the
- 18:33first time West TRAINI he plays over there and there's a ton of Mountain Air
- 18:34fans in there, that's what will start. I think there'll be some good
- 18:37number of Cincinnati fans here today. Maybe the record keeps some of them down.
- 18:41That's going to be the game. That's going to be a heavily attended
- 18:44game moving forward, because the only one you can get too easily in this
- 18:47league. Probably not many road trips to Utah when you play out there.
- 18:51Probably not man our guy that takes the train, though they might take that
- 18:55out there. That'd be a nice train trip. Have we heard from him
- 18:57this year? Early did for him, Hoppy the guy from Pennsylvania. You
- 19:02never heard from him again Austin. Was that this year or last year?
- 19:04And went to Austin. Yeah, he's gone, he's gone. Radio silent
- 19:08on this. Certainly, Hope might have already started on the way out to
- 19:12Utah to get there next year for the game. Certainly wasn't hope. It
- 19:15wasn't anything we said. That's never happened. You need to go and we'll
- 19:21find you two are poopooing it. I'm glad Cincinnati's in the league. I
- 19:22didn't say it wasn't. You two are against it. You don't like it,
- 19:26you don't like them being here. Welcome. I'm glad they're in the
- 19:29league. Bring it on. I like Cincinnati in the league, liked playing
- 19:32them before, like like taking the bus trip and when we take the bus
- 19:34trips. I don't know what you guys are coming from. I like it.
- 19:37Glad they're in the league. Yeah, happy, three guys before the
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- 20:42from the great state of West Virginia. So here's the funny part of what
- 20:47just happened? What you fell for? His third grade like he just he
- 20:52just like, oh hey, Hoppy, you want this strawberry? Whoo.
- 20:55I didn't take the strawberry. You just bit into it. He's goating.
- 20:57He was falsely accused. He was just playing with you. You bought into
- 21:00it. So it made his day. So now he's out a happy day
- 21:03that he made you lose your happy He's open. Guess what I did.
- 21:08Hoppy got upset. He'll come out of this. He'll come like later tonight
- 21:12when we go down and do sports line. Yeah, he'll walk you Knowle's
- 21:15put his papers down over there and go how about me getting happy today.
- 21:18That's what it's gonna be. You ready to do your thing? Let's go.
- 21:22Is it good? It's good. Yeah. I think there's a lot
- 21:26of stuff here, but you better strap in. I really, what does
- 21:29that better strap in? There's only two regular season games left, so we're
- 21:33uh, we're entering emptying the cupboard. Good, hit it and bring it
- 21:37so I check your numbers. I'll just go right to the numbers, jump
- 21:41into the analytics. Worship of the show ready spreads out of the stats is
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- 23:12meet them. It was very nice. They were a little afraid to meet
- 23:15you. They well, you guys filled them. You know, don't say
- 23:18you guys, don't just unnecessarily when you don't help my back one in the
- 23:23room. All I said was this, Hey, when Hoppy comes, make
- 23:27sure you don't make direct icons. Very very we had a nice I mean,
- 23:34if you would have been on time, you could have had your own
- 23:36back. Yeah, we did. We were staring at the clock, and
- 23:38here we're showing them around the studio and go, look, twelve thirty,
- 23:41where's our boy? See, probably wasn't good on yours anyway, Senator,
- 23:48you're ready, so you say these are really good? Yeah, we might
- 23:52have to break it up a little bit because there's heavy and there's heavy numbers
- 23:53coming at you. I'm ready. I'm ready, boy, you read it,
- 23:56bring it. I'm listening, anxious, my glasses on here as we
- 23:59get ready to die into the spreads on stats Cincinnati preview for West Virginia's biggest
- 24:03rival. So here's question one. We begin with the same question we have
- 24:10each week. I think it's especially relevant this week. It's West Virginia going
- 24:14to be able to slow down that running attack. Right. If Cincinnati's running
- 24:17on you, look out, you got problems. If you can get them
- 24:18into that passing down situation. Again, I think that's where the advantages really
- 24:23come in for West Virginia. You're getting a team in Cincinnati that's fourth in
- 24:26the Big twelve in interceptions, just eleventh in EPA when it comes to the
- 24:32past. So it's a team that doesn't want us throw it. They've struggled
- 24:36at times. So can you make them throw it. Can you get pressure
- 24:40on the quarterback when they do throw it right, because that's the key.
- 24:42Slow this run game down enough so that they've got to get into obvious passing
- 24:45situations and then you come at them. A couple numbers that we've gone through
- 24:48every week this season, will continue to look at these. For Cincinnati,
- 24:52the right tackle has allowed the second most pressures in the Big Twelve and the
- 24:56center has given up the ninth most come from that area. They have four
- 25:00players in the top thirty of most pressures allowed, four players in the top
- 25:06thirty. Versely, Wes Virginia has none in the top there. That tells
- 25:10you how good that offensive line has been for West Virginia. Bartlett and Martin
- 25:14are the two guys to watch coming from the left side if right tackles the
- 25:17area that you've got to come through. Bartlet eleventh, Martin seventeenth. In
- 25:21pressures from the left side. Those are numbers that we've updated going along.
- 25:25So you're going to see both quarterbacks from Cincinnati. They're going to play two,
- 25:27but it's Emery Jones that takes the bulk of the snaps. I think
- 25:30if he stays in there and you have to make him throw and you can
- 25:33get a little pressure. I think you've got a chance to get a pick
- 25:37or two, which would be massive. Right, this is to me,
- 25:40this is a similar game plan to UCF. Right. UCF wanted to run
- 25:44it, and when they threw it, what happened. You were able to
- 25:45get turnovers and that changed that game because you weren't having a lot of success
- 25:49slowing them down via the run. Wouldn't that be kind of neat? Maybe
- 25:52if we're senior day, Beanie Bishop or Malachi Ruffin, get a pick six,
- 25:56bring one back to the house, that'd be a whole another level.
- 26:00I'll just take a pick, but a pick six would be fantastic. So
- 26:02when you look at Jones per PFF, he has just eight big time throws
- 26:07and twelve turnover worthy plays that has turned into ten actual interceptions. Now here's
- 26:14what you want to keep an eye on, Hopy you ready, Yes,
- 26:15keep an eye on the middle of the field. When Emery Jones drops back
- 26:18to pass, eight of his ten interceptions have come down the middle. But
- 26:23conversely, so of nine of his fifteen touchdown passes. So the middle of
- 26:27the field is where they want to attack. That's where he can be picked
- 26:30off, but you better get there because they can also score from that area.
- 26:33Uh, Senator, If I'm not mistaken, last week, didn't you
- 26:34tell us that West Virginia is one of the best teams in the league and
- 26:37guarding the seam route correct. So that kind of plays in a West Virginia
- 26:41strength and you get a pick right in that little seam route there. All
- 26:45right, Well, if you want to go ahead and call it now,
- 26:47I'm just say and watch the middle of the field, very important part of
- 26:49the action coming up on Saturday. Like most quarterbacks, Jones really struggles when
- 26:53he's pressured, just a forty four PFF grade win under pressure, averaging just
- 26:59four point four yards per attempt in those situations. Only has one big time
- 27:04throw when he's under pressure. Now again, you've got to watch out for
- 27:07him taking off scrambling on you when you're under pressure, but get after him
- 27:11when he has to pass. I think good things happen. Here's the other
- 27:15part that comes with Cincinnati when they run it well, that really kicks in
- 27:21their play action, and they love to play action, which makes some sense
- 27:23for good running teams. Right. Eleven of fifteen touchdown passes from Jones have
- 27:27come off play action and he only has three interceptions in those situations. That
- 27:33yards per attempt number jumps from four point four yards under pressure, which is
- 27:37very much obviously all the way up to nine point two when coming off play
- 27:41action. So the running game is not only just going to help the obvious
- 27:44the running game, it's also going to help their pass games significantly. It's
- 27:48a big difference when they can operate out of play action or not. All
- 27:51right, So there's that pressure Western He's got to get pressure defensively. That's
- 27:53a good start. Let's flip over the offensive side. We mentioned the running
- 27:56quarterback battle the game within the game there. Garrett's going to have to have
- 28:00a big game with his legs here, and I know that's true for every
- 28:04West Virginia game except for BYU, and they didn't need to run him.
- 28:07They're going to need to run him this week. And West Virginia's going to
- 28:10have to have him to be productive on the ground. So let's look at
- 28:12some numbers. Hop you ready to dive in here. Yes, last week
- 28:15versus Houston, the Cougar quarterback Donovan Smith ran for eighty eight yards and averaged
- 28:22six point eight yards per carry. Against the Cincinnati defense. He was Houston's
- 28:26leading rusher and had sixty three percent of their rushing yards. Houston is a
- 28:30team averaged six yards rushing for the game. Now, Houston wanted to throw
- 28:34it a lot, didn't get him the win, but their quarterback had success
- 28:38running it. Green enters this game third in the Big Twelve in quarterback rushing
- 28:42yards with four hundred and sixty seven. He averages five point eight yards per
- 28:48carry and has the second fewest stuffs among quarterbacks in the Big Twelve. Yeah,
- 28:53it gets out of harm's way. He does, okay with me?
- 28:56Hop so far? Yes, all right. We also know that West rigid
- 29:00and he likes him to have the ball in his hands in big moments,
- 29:03third downs and or near the end zone when you're down inside the five yard
- 29:06line. Green is second in the league in rushing touchdowns by a quarterback and
- 29:11leads in first downs gained. So he's going to get the ball in those
- 29:14situations. Now you really want to get into the weeds. We're going way
- 29:18down here. Oh yeah, bringing it out. Only two games left,
- 29:19So this is from my friends over at Sports Infos Solutions. Garrett leads the
- 29:23Big Twelve quarterbacks in rush attempts, yards rushing, and first downs gained going
- 29:30off tackle to the right. Kerchival off tackle to the right has been very
- 29:36successful, better than any other quarterback in the league, so keep an eye
- 29:40on that. We normally talk about this team being left handed a lot,
- 29:42and Doug Nester might not go so Nick Malone is going to have to be
- 29:45the yeoman there, get over there and clear it, which is fine.
- 29:48He played against Byu started on the right side, they went for two hundred
- 29:51and ten yards over on the right hand side. Nicks had a great year.
- 29:55So it goes either way. Bret. Is that because that that's where
- 29:59the the opening is or because he's right handed. So he's right handed,
- 30:03so sure, yeah that helps, but remember a lot of quarterbacks in this
- 30:06league are right handed, and he still has the best in all those categories.
- 30:07So yeah, that's a lot of the reason. But he's been very
- 30:10successful at it. So Garrett's legs are going to be a big success in
- 30:14this win. I'm sure the next question you want to ask me is how
- 30:17Cincinnati's run defense against a quarterback running? Was that the next question exactly what
- 30:22I was going to ask you, Thank you, thank you for asking.
- 30:25Cincinnati is twelve out of fourteen Big Twelve teams when it comes to opponent rushing
- 30:30yards, opponent quarterback rushing yard like that number. Bearcats have given up the
- 30:34fifth most rushing first downs to quarterbacks and they have the most misstackles that quarterbacks.
- 30:41That's a cycle right there. Yeah, so that's going to be important.
- 30:44And add to that, the status of CJ. Donaldson is unclear for
- 30:48this game. You mentioned Nester, but Donaldson' status is unclear. Last time
- 30:52we saw him, he was limping off that field trying to work on a
- 30:55balance on that leg over on the sideline. So if you don't see Donaldson,
- 30:59that comes even more important for Garrett Green to have a big game.
- 31:03Those are good numbers. Yeah, are your numbers more comprehensive now that we're
- 31:08almost at the end of the season. Brad got a lot of them.
- 31:11In fact, today full disclosure, I had to get up and walk away
- 31:15from the computer, huh, because I thought that was getting a little lengthy.
- 31:18I've got a bunch more to me. But you know what, my
- 31:21takeaway from what you just said is that Garrett Green, who's coming off his
- 31:26by the coach's admission, is worst game of the year. That Garrett Green
- 31:30needs to get back to being Garrett Green, and that probably that also means
- 31:33running the football, getting a big third down play, running when there's nothing
- 31:37there, and being a huge offensive factor in this game. And I think
- 31:41he is, and I think he has to be. When West Virginia's clicking
- 31:44and winning and scoring points, he's having great games, right those games that
- 31:47we've seen like that, we're sitting there saying, hey, look at Grett
- 31:49Green, look at that deep ball, look at that pass, look at
- 31:51that run. Oh my gosh, he just took off on third and nine
- 31:53and got a first down. So yeah, I think you've got to be
- 31:56back to He's got to drive the bus offensively with help from those guys front
- 32:00clear in the path and getting some stops on Amory Jones and don't let him
- 32:01beat you. Yeah, because that's the other part of this, guys.
- 32:05And I didn't get into it here, but West Virginia doesn't have great numbers
- 32:07against running quarterbacks either. We'll talk more about that coming up later, but
- 32:10that that's going to be a challenge. That's the matchup here, guys.
- 32:14It's two teams that want to run it and are very good at running it.
- 32:15You mentioned they're big twelve numbers that they're second in the league behind West
- 32:20Virginia, But if you go nationally across all games, Cincinnati's actually fourth in
- 32:23the country and rushing yards per game. West Virginia's seventh. So this team's
- 32:28been successful. The wins haven't followed, but it can run it against another
- 32:31team that wants to run it. With two guys at quarterback that also want
- 32:35to run it. I think I may that might be your best That might
- 32:38be his best performance this season right there, Hobey, it's very strong,
- 32:42very strong. Good job and running quarterbacks. Ground Game nineteen forty seven.
- 32:45I kind of like that off the right tackle. Hey, by the way,
- 32:50quarterback rush off the right tackle. That's a nice one. You know
- 32:52what I loved last week? Love because you know I like crazy stupid sports
- 32:55stuff. Thirty two straight runs by Michigan two like to me just made me
- 33:01laugh inside thirty two straight runs. Love it. Remember when Pitt came into
- 33:07West Virginian and didn't throw all what Yeah, didn't throw it the whole game?
- 33:12Or yeah, I think it might have been the whole game. Marina
- 33:14was hurt. Yeah, so they just yeah, didn't throw it. Yeah,
- 33:17that was a wild stat I love that. It's the ultimate just we're
- 33:22gonna run it. You guys want to try and stop it. Hey,
- 33:23guess what we're gonna run it against. That's an ultimate tweak of that is
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- 36:57you do it properly, you're gonna hit your bloom peak at between one ninety
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- 37:34and as I get chested as a lot of times for asking, hey,
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- 38:37a couple of things. The popcorn they make it fresh weekly, ten day
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- 38:45be fifty of those fifty exclusive lids. Expect a ten day lead time on
- 38:52that as well. Where did they come from? Bearwood, A West Virginia
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- 39:43that. And what they do is they employ and provide life skills to individuals
- 39:46with disabilities and gives them, you know, meaningful opportunities to grow the food
- 39:52sustain the program. So the food that they grow is then provided to the
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- 40:10grow at the Homestead Farm and they create specially curated meal packs that will nourish
- 40:16a family of four with one hundred of these packs distributed weekly. The program's
- 40:23initial pledge aims to positively impact up to four hundred individuals this year, so
- 40:29they'll give them this food once a week. It'll feed four so they can
- 40:32do four hundred people. So what we're doing is we've created the Hope Apparel
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- 40:55That's nice to do. So that's nice stuff there. That the pink
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- 41:02luke, And that stuff's cool too. And that I mean, if you
- 41:07even don't even know what the program is and you just see the word Hope
- 41:08and you got the state outside stayed outline in there, that's really and that's
- 41:13neat. Looks very nice. Now, of course, all the staples are
- 41:15still available at episode eight Hunter dot com too. Quarters up, you're wearing
- 41:19shirt I have. We don't efforting T shirts. We know we don't have
- 41:22staples on there. Office supply stuff, standard stuff. Oh sure, yeah,
- 41:30I thought you meant like states you were up on lingo. Yeah,
- 41:32you know all that other stuff is there. Three guys office supplies. Three
- 41:36guys having us pencil sharp episod. All right, ready for textual healing.
- 41:43Yes, just receive this, Tony. Time for you to step up your
- 41:47game. Look at that. Twenty three West Virginia counties have now reported feral
- 41:52hog sightings. So I'm not that that is a big pig right there?
- 42:00Yeah? So is that now an invasive species? I don't know, but
- 42:06he looks he doesn't look happy. I mean, I don't think that well,
- 42:08I don't know. I'm not gonna saying because I don't know. Yeah,
- 42:12don't say anything. As you get that, you get those people all
- 42:15fired up, they don't stop. Chris Lawrence will be out there and knocking
- 42:17on your door. Yeah, hey, three guys, Mike from Salem checking
- 42:22in with a heat or alert. This is not directed at three guys,
- 42:25but instead of the Texters that are bringing heat and not putting a name to
- 42:30it. It doesn't sit right with me. Back in Wyoming County, we
- 42:32call the tacks with such anonymity and heat, we use a different term if
- 42:37not acceptable, sackless. Yeah, I get it. As a fan base,
- 42:40we got knocked in the teeth, but popping off at Brad Hoppy and
- 42:44Tony for just trying to break down what happened and perhaps give a moment's respite.
- 42:47Isn't a good look. Once again, this is Mike from Salem.
- 42:52From Salem will put his name on the text. So before the game lasts
- 42:58Saturday, I had to give little bite to eat, you know, And
- 43:02so I went over this place called Torchi's Tacos. Oh. I know I
- 43:07know Torchies, right, because they're down in Texas. They yes, So
- 43:09I'm walking out. I met this fellow here at the bar, and his
- 43:14name is Dylan, and he was from Buchanan. And he said, I
- 43:17was just listening to the three guys because the night before he was in fort
- 43:21Worth and went to the rodeo. Oh, and he said, we were
- 43:23just listening driving up here from fort Worth to Norman's on his way to Oklahoma.
- 43:29He was listening to three guys. So there you go, Dylan.
- 43:30Thanks Dylan, shout out to you. Thank you very much. Text her
- 43:37Brad Tony and the Hopster. My wife's wife asked me to provide her with
- 43:42a Christmas list for her family. When I provided her the link for the
- 43:45efforting and thanks for having the shirt, she replied, you will not be
- 43:49allowed to wear them out of the house. How should I handle this situation?
- 43:53Signed by Brandon in Herndon, Virginia. Interesting question there, How do
- 43:59you handle that divorce? You can just get right down to the root of
- 44:02the problem. Doesn't born out of the house. Why wouldn't she wanted to
- 44:07wear that? I don't know, Brandon. We're strongly with wear that into
- 44:12church on Sunday. It's perfect efforting. That'd be a good church. That
- 44:15would be a good church for church, a great church shirt. Yeah,
- 44:17you're always efforting that front. I mean, yeah, very good and I
- 44:21like super appropriate out of the house. Yeah, because we're all sinners,
- 44:25right, So you're walking at church sometimes more than others. I think the
- 44:35comeback is, honey, this is really important to me. How about that?
- 44:40Can you start there? Why don't you start? Good? To start?
- 44:43Yeah? Uh, Texter response maybe important to you, but it's stupid.
- 44:50That's what you're going to get Texas. I know we're supposed to be
- 44:53getting on to Cincinnati. I can't quite get over Oklahoma after the winds this
- 44:58season. You guys often praise the that for making the right adjustments and chastise
- 45:02some of us non climb believers for lacking faith. But to use Hoppy's term,
- 45:07those games are an aberration. When this staff plays against inferior G five
- 45:12talent, they can win. But so far and Neil's tenure, wins against
- 45:15comparable teams are the aberration, not the norm. The fact is the poor
- 45:21performance against Oklahoma happens more times than a competitive one. So please stop acting
- 45:27like we're surprised when Neil hooks a shot into the cart shack instead of hitting
- 45:31it down the middle. He is who he is. I was just surprised
- 45:35they got that they played as bad as they did and got beat as bad
- 45:37as they did in the game. Did not see that? Yeah, I
- 45:42mean that's what nobody saw that this year, that's been the aberration. They
- 45:44have not had games like that. So and Texter, I almost didn't listen
- 45:49to the recap of Oklahoma because I figured there would be a lot of haters,
- 45:54But as my wife is fond of saying, I couldn't take the pressure,
- 45:58so I listened Monday. I appreciate you your voices of reason. I
- 46:00think more folks should have Matt from Tulser's attitude. I left West Virginia in
- 46:05nineteen seventy and one for ten years in the Air Force, following the Mountaineers
- 46:09as best I could defending Eastern football. Those were lean years in the late
- 46:15seventies. I returned an eighty one season ticket holder thereafter for thirty years.
- 46:20I took great joy and watching them play, both in person and on TV.
- 46:24One of my best trips Sugar Bowl Florida ninety four. Not a good
- 46:28result, but what a ride. I think folks lose sight of the fact
- 46:31that these guys are eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one. I know there's
- 46:35big money involved all that too. Would like us to be relevant. I'm
- 46:38sad when we lose, frustrated at times, but I get over it because
- 46:43for the most part, these kids are fun to watch. They're good kids.
- 46:45We'll have our ups and downs, but it'll be a fun ride.
- 46:47I just hope the Jim Bow to Morgantown talk doesn't start, because that grass
- 46:52isn't always greener. Thanks to you guys for entertaining us, providing us with
- 46:55facts like Hoppy I help coach Brown Stays because I think he's a good man.
- 47:00However it plays out, I'll still enjoy the ride with these kids.
- 47:04Let's go get us some bear cat and bear skins. Dink from Bridgeport.
- 47:09Thank you, Texter. I've got a lot of got a lot of tech,
- 47:21got a lot of Jimbo Fisher texts. That's predictable. I think that's
- 47:25got a lot of Jimbo Fisher texts. My stance on that is this,
- 47:30as I said in August, let's cook the soup and let the soup be
- 47:37finished before we need to do anything. Let the season happen. Okay,
- 47:44you're sitting here right now with two to go, and at this point three
- 47:50or four losses are against ranked teams and one absolute against Houston. See what
- 47:55it ends up? I agree, and that's when the evaluation will be made
- 48:00mad by the ad. However, as the as the way the season has
- 48:04evolved, and maybe we saw this coming, these last two games are enormous,
- 48:08enormous, as have every game been before this Pitt was enormous, TC
- 48:15that I mean, that's that's the way it works out. It is.
- 48:16It's just as the season goes on and you get near the end of season,
- 48:22then you have fewer chances. If you stumble, you have fewer chances
- 48:24to get it right. Okay, So so each game actually takes on maybe
- 48:30a little bit more importance in terms of determining what kind of season. I
- 48:32don't know. You'd lose that pit game, it would have been it would
- 48:35have been a different tenor well, yeah, there were many important games.
- 48:38Is that one? To get off on the right track, I would agree
- 48:40on the pit game. The next text was extremely long, so I shortened
- 48:47it the gist of it's still there. What's up? Three guys? WV.
- 48:53Sports are more than sports. Let me tell you how I come from
- 48:57a legacy of mountaineers. My family set up in Kingwood back in the thirties
- 49:00forties from Italy, part of many immigrants who worked in the coal mines.
- 49:06My dad instantly fell in love for the Mountaineers. One of my earliest memories
- 49:08my dad going to see rich Rod's first game against BC. I was seven.
- 49:14This coming Friday, the seventeenth, I turned thirty. Guess where I'm
- 49:19going Mountaineers against Cincinnata with my family, including my wife and my brother's fiance,
- 49:24both of which we met at WVU. I wouldn't have it any other
- 49:29way. We'll be cheering loud and proud. We'll certainly be singing country roads
- 49:32to the end of the game. I hope you can understand how West Virginia
- 49:36sports about more than a game to us through deep family ties. There are
- 49:39families Christmas. Oh, absolutely, totally get it. Texter. Three guys,
- 49:45Two things. My wife's due date is the day after the Cincinnati games.
- 49:51That'd be Sunday. It'd be their first child. If she hasn't given
- 49:54birth by then, should we attend the game and possibly be the first birth?
- 50:00Inside Milon Pushcar Stadium is just you know, I mean just you can
- 50:07walk over there. I guess. I love WV and our fans and get
- 50:09the frustration. But if you aren't happy with a year when we're predicted not
- 50:14to go to a bowl and possibly get eight or nine wins, that I
- 50:16don't know what to tell you. I want the Pat White years back more
- 50:20than anyone. It's really hard to be that good. That's why we remember
- 50:23them finally and want them back. We'll have our time in the sun again.
- 50:27College sports are cyclical for most programs. Yeah, I probably wouldn't go
- 50:31to the game if she's due. Plus, I mean, how miserable would
- 50:38she be. I don't sit on a bench and yeah, text her.
- 50:50I texted three weeks ago imploring my fellow Mountaineers to enjoy football season. It's
- 50:54a fun and exciting time of the year. As I listened to Sunday's episode,
- 50:59my mind went to high Be saying, in response to my text,
- 51:01the nature of fandom is emotional. That's a fair and valid point. Still,
- 51:07as much as I hated losing by thirty nine to Oklahoma, I like
- 51:10the idea this team could finish eight and four, return almost everyone next year.
- 51:14Let's see where it goes. The comic relief of listening to folks moan
- 51:17and complain in Sunday's textual healing segment was a helpful salve after Saturday night's mauling.
- 51:24My mind went to poor Ellen Griswold being caught smoking by her mother from
- 51:29the other room in Christmas vacation. To borrow her exasperated words and apply them
- 51:34to Mountaineer fans. It's football season and we're all in misery. Go Mountaineers.
- 51:38Signed by Jay and Ashville, North Carolina Jay suffering Texter, I don't
- 51:46understand the people who are talking about the weak strength of schedule for at least
- 51:51the next few years. The Big twelve looks to be extremely flat, which
- 51:54is what a team like West Virginia wants similar resources across the board. Also,
- 52:00I'm holding to Colorado over four and a half win ticket, which after
- 52:04the first few weeks I didn't think I'd have to sweat and I wouldn't.
- 52:08Good brother, who they have left, you know, I'm check on that.
- 52:14Can you all remember another regular season college football game where both coaches got
- 52:21fired after it was over? So he's talking about Mississippi State and Texas A
- 52:25and M. Yeah, I can't regular season, he said, I don't
- 52:30know. That's a good question. That's a still kind of a relatively newish
- 52:36phenomenon too. Now that's true too. Then used to happen like it does
- 52:38now texter As. I'm listening to episode five zero four Mountaineer fans complain about
- 52:45being eight and four, seven and five. Let's calm down. Remember when
- 52:47those records were West Virginia's norm eight and four, seven and five records become
- 52:52for WVU ten and two, eleven and one occasionally. That's not mediocrity.
- 52:58That's where our team lies in the tier years of national football. This is
- 53:01the first team I've seen in the Neil era that even remotely had a shot
- 53:06to win games, and I think the season will continue to show that.
- 53:09I know it's long, and Tony may not read it, but I feel
- 53:13better getting this off my chest. Thanks guys for the show. Grant in
- 53:15Redhouse, Colorado is at Washington State and then at Utah. Not easy,
- 53:24probably not, probably not, Which is that maybe why you don't assume what
- 53:31happens in week one or two We'll continue all the way through the season.
- 53:35Good. Probably shouldn't jump to crown national champions and Coach of the Year candidates
- 53:39and giant extent shouldn't probably wait till things play out inside the season goes or
- 53:44should We'll just rush in and put all resources behind something that's real shiny.
- 53:47After the first couple of weeks, I would probably well, knowing me,
- 53:51i'd probably panic though the second weekend, fire the coach, hire the coach,
- 53:53give him a raise, fire him, I do something. Win's hard,
- 53:55man, win's hard. Redo, the whole roster becomes even Doctor Jeff
- 54:01and Charleston rights my WV glass is half full of Kertschevl. Eight and four
- 54:08would far exceed most of our expectations. Even seven and five is better than
- 54:15ending up in fourteenth place in the league. PS what is the origin or
- 54:20the definition of boat raced? So we used boat raced several times Sunday on
- 54:24the show. So West Virginia got boat race? Well, actually, doctor
- 54:29Jeff. Boat raced, according to the Urban Dictionary, is defined as to
- 54:37be beaten very badly at something, especially in a fashion that you were behind
- 54:43from the start and never had a chance. Comes from the boat race,
- 54:46an annual rowing competition between Oxford and Cambridge in which the first side to get
- 54:52ahead can then move over to the middle of the river where the current is
- 54:57faster and has almost never overtaken their after So that is, you jump ahead
- 55:02early, you never look back. That's why we call it a boat race.
- 55:07Interesting origin for then, sure, Texter, it's on ESPN Plus this
- 55:12weekend. By the way, what's that the boat race? Boat race?
- 55:15It's not. I just wanted to say ESPN Plus. Oh yeah, high
- 55:21tension day for you hunt Saturday or Saturday you get struggle a little bit.
- 55:24If everything works as it should, we'll just turn it on and it'll operate
- 55:29smoothly. Certainly it'll be tight. I certainly hope that happens for you.
- 55:35Uh textor I'm wondering if stats or fine looking Phil has an optimal blend of
- 55:39cotton polyester span Dex blend that they would recommend for workouts. You guys offer
- 55:46that at all cotton can get a little heavy span dex. You got to
- 55:50be certain. So what would you say, people, I'm polyester almost exclusively
- 55:54for workout. Really? Yeah, you don't do any of the spandex stuff
- 55:59not usually? Is that a wiki material? Yeah? What a good wool
- 56:04sweater. Probably not a big, big, big shawl big wool shawl texter.
- 56:12Hey, three guys, this weekend, this weekend's game. The sweatpants
- 56:16have certainly changed a lot, haven't they. The Yeah, I mean you
- 56:20go from what the Rocky belboas. Remember when Rocky was working out there,
- 56:23the grays with that was a that was a gray that like you could use
- 56:28that for soundproofing or you can hang that over windows. You wouldn't hear a
- 56:30sound. So that material is what what Rocky also went towel inside the sweatshirt.
- 56:37Yeah, around the neck, but that was the real gray sweat pant
- 56:43material, like they couldn't It makes you stop breathing, Like you look at
- 56:49that material nowadays compared to what like they put out now, like it makes
- 56:52you like, I gotta go get a breath. That's heavy. He needed
- 56:58that. He went into the meat cooler. He's punching the meat. He
- 57:00needed to stay a little warm. You go in there with something a little
- 57:02bit like he could have caught a cold. Hey, three guys think weekends
- 57:07games will be interesting in my house. The wife's family is all from Cincinnati.
- 57:13We're gonna have thirteen bear cats staying in our house and going to the
- 57:15game. My wife was raised as a bear cat, but has lived in
- 57:19Morgantown, cheering On, West Virginia for a few years. She's a bit
- 57:22unsure who to root for. Any advice for interacting with the enemy when they're
- 57:25inside friendly territory. I suppose I'll make Grandma's chili spaghetti to try to win
- 57:31them over little Cincinnati chili. I don't, So let's talk about that a
- 57:37little bit, Sincinnati chili. The spaghetti with the chili. Yeah, that's
- 57:43a big thing there. And you like that? Oh really, and load
- 57:47that all that cheese on there in onions out in out. Oh. This
- 57:59was written by the way from grad student Josh, who just successfully defended his
- 58:04master's thesis gratulation relations outstanding, Hoppy, did you have to defend your thing
- 58:09when you got that honorary degree out there? It's up in your office.
- 58:13It took me so long. They were just here. Fine, please leave,
- 58:17We're gonna quit. We have to clear the we have to clear the
- 58:20books on this one. Texter. Oh, here we go, Charlie from
- 58:25Midlothian, oh Gas Steeler himself, Tony Braden, Hoppy, the three of
- 58:30you make three guys in episode eight hundred the outstanding podcast and promotion of West
- 58:36Virginia that they are, But like any successful endeavor, there are also people
- 58:39behind the scenes that contribute to its success. I had an issue with one
- 58:44of my purchases from episode eight hundred dot com this past Sunday. I sent
- 58:49an email with pictures describing the issue to Tony and Dave. Wasn't sure if
- 58:53Tony would respond, since he probably now has seventy five thousand unread emails,
- 59:00but super Dave responded almost immediately assured me that he would make it right.
- 59:07Although I have already thanked him, I thought it would be appropriate that he
- 59:09get a shout out on the podcast. Dave's amazing, I mean, we
- 59:15are the best. Don't have seventy five thousand Charlie on the unread emails,
- 59:20have fifty three thousand and six on yours, Yeah, two hundred and eighty
- 59:25five messages, and five hundred and eighty phone calls. I'm fine. I
- 59:36mean life's going swimmingly for me. I mean, well, I'm not missing
- 59:37anything, Texter. I just returned home from my trip to the Isle of
- 59:45Carousel carousel that's in the Southern Caribbean with my wife, celebrating our fourth wedding
- 59:52anniversary. While there, we visited the original Blue Carousel Liquor distillery close to
- 59:58our resort as OHI. I wore my West Virginia t shirt when walking around
- 1:00:02the property when a man and his family approached me and asked if I was
- 1:00:07from Almost Heaven. Come to find out, he and his wife are from
- 1:00:12Wheeling. Of course, they are my hometown and had moved across the country
- 1:00:15to California, but we're planning on making the move back toward West Virginia this
- 1:00:20coming year. I guess it is true, there's always a West Virginia connection.
- 1:00:23Even at the end of Davy Jones's locker, shout out to my wife,
- 1:00:29Molly, who's a pick you rn at Ruby's New Children's Hospital. Who
- 1:00:32bleeds the old golden blue as hard as anyone love you? That's awesome,
- 1:00:37awesome. So carouseow is in the ABC Islands, Who's the Bee and then
- 1:00:46Carousel. But those three islands they get like super great weather. That's like
- 1:00:52the utopia of weather, can't grow in. I have it since you told
- 1:00:58me that. I have that on my phone now everyday because you say it's
- 1:01:00always like amazing green. Do you look. Let's look at let's look right
- 1:01:04now at the let's look at the bon Air bon Air, bon Air bon
- 1:01:08Air. Very nice. So here's the here's the four games. Been there
- 1:01:12have you? Sure? Okay? Sure, Here's here's the rule. Here's
- 1:01:15the roubles weather. Okay, I bet it's going to be windy in eighty
- 1:01:20two. Right now it's eighty seven. So here's the next ten days.
- 1:01:22Eighty seven, eighty seven, eighty five, eighty forty five, eighty five,
- 1:01:25eighty five, eighty for eighty forty forty forty four. It's the greatest
- 1:01:29weather. Up some wonderful people in Bonnair. Really, what were you doing
- 1:01:31here visiting? You have people there? That is where he keeps his offshore
- 1:01:38account all of his winnings, all of his winnings. He keeps it in
- 1:01:43I do you have a body that ran a booking cares out? Well?
- 1:01:45Sure I know him too, right, yeah, Texter professor Vinnie here.
- 1:01:50So with everything going on with West Virginia Athletics, I struggled with a craft
- 1:01:52of text to the podcast. For instance, my head whirls with possibilities related
- 1:01:57to the Cincinnati game. With the fact that but was let go by A
- 1:02:00and M. I thought about texting what might be the over under on the
- 1:02:02number of texts you guys received related to him becoming our next head coach?
- 1:02:07My guests was thirty and a half. However, I come to you with
- 1:02:12a more pressing matter, that of Christmas music. A local radio station here
- 1:02:16in Chicago recently started playing Christmas music around the clock on one November, not
- 1:02:22uncommon. My wife, accordingly, rolls her eyes whenever I put the station
- 1:02:25on in the car, literally any time before December. So when is it
- 1:02:30too early to start listening to Christmas music? Myself? I'm ready for all
- 1:02:34things Christmas the day after Thanksgiving Thanksgiving Thanksgiving in relation, I can't wait to
- 1:02:39see what Christmas theme merch you guys release. Might I suggest a three guys
- 1:02:45themed ugly Christmas sweater? Hoppy thoughts on Christmas music. As to when to
- 1:02:50start, I think programmatically you can start, like any time now. Frankly,
- 1:02:54I mean because it is November one? Too early? Is the question
- 1:02:59too early? Okaymber one? Hate music? Well you know my stands.
- 1:03:04I mean, can do what you want to do? He enjoys Christmas music
- 1:03:07in July? Play in July? Why I would? Don't take anybody else's
- 1:03:09a pay you want it? You want to listen to it? Listen to
- 1:03:12it? Yeah, tell your wife. Tell your wife to put some mere
- 1:03:14buds in. You're listening to the Christmas music? Tell people very hoppy.
- 1:03:17It was a very libertarian people. What to do? You must listen to
- 1:03:21Christmas? Christmas? Fair question? When do you think is true? Whatever?
- 1:03:25You want to listen to it? Whenever you want to listen to the
- 1:03:27answer with them that whenever you want to listen to it? You think I
- 1:03:30would care when you tell me I could listen to Christmas music? No,
- 1:03:35no, professor, Nie, do what you want. There's a dispute in
- 1:03:38their household, that's all. His wife doesn't have to listen to it.
- 1:03:43Well, if they're in the car together, well he's driving, she can
- 1:03:45drive. Let me tell you something. If Professor Vinnie's biggest problem is you're
- 1:03:52they're barking about Christmas music. He's got a good thing going on, that's
- 1:03:54their big concern. You know, usually when you argue about something like that,
- 1:03:59it's it's really there's deeper issues. Why are you fighting about Christmas music?
- 1:04:05When in fact, what it's really about is why don't you ever let
- 1:04:09me have my way? Or why don't you ever to do All of a
- 1:04:12sudden, here here's our boy over here, psychologist. All the guy wants
- 1:04:18to do is listen to Frosty at Snowman, Rudolph Redno's Reindeer Hark, the
- 1:04:23Herald Angels, and you're talking about the guy's got a divorce coming as well.
- 1:04:26Listen to what you want. David Kaiser trying to save a marriage.
- 1:04:32David Kaiser, I've been wondering lately why Neil Brown is so divisive to the
- 1:04:38fan base. It could be recency biased, but I don't remember this much
- 1:04:41victory all aimed at past coaches. There have been message board and Twitter rumors
- 1:04:45that Neil wants out because his kids are being harassed. I sincerely hope it
- 1:04:48isn't true. I've seen my fair share of personal attacks toward him, but
- 1:04:53it would shock me and it would just make me feel sick. What do
- 1:04:55you guys think? Why do you guys think the fan base is so divisive?
- 1:05:00Just fan base his anks due to losses, or it had always been
- 1:05:01this way? Social media just brings it to light. I don't have any
- 1:05:03issues criticizing the coaches record, but obviously going after family ridiculous and egregious.
- 1:05:11So let me say this about all that. Let's do a historical perspective on
- 1:05:15this. I think your line that said is this, has it always been
- 1:05:23like this? Or social media just bringing it to light? I think there's
- 1:05:27your answer. Let's go back. Did Mountaineer fans want Bobby Bowden fired?
- 1:05:32Yes? Yeah, they hung him in FIA, yes. Did they want
- 1:05:35Frank Signetti fired? Yes they did. Did they want don niel And fired?
- 1:05:41Yes they did. Multiple times. They flew airplanes over the stadium repeatedly
- 1:05:45saying fire Donnelon. He'll be honored this weekend with his name and shrine Hall
- 1:05:51of Fame. Pretty sure Bowden won some games to win games? Yeah?
- 1:05:57Did did Mountaineer fans want to hang Rich Rodriguez when he left, Yeah they
- 1:06:03did. Do they want Bill Stewart out? Yes they did. Did they
- 1:06:09dislike Dana, Yes they did. Do they like Neil? Some do,
- 1:06:15some don't. Has anything changed, absolutely not. Has the platform to dispense
- 1:06:21those comments gone about fifty x or one hundred x from what it is used
- 1:06:27to be. Yes, nothing's changed. Yeah, that that has changed significantly
- 1:06:31though in the ability to be anonymous on there and flamethrow Is has gotten out
- 1:06:35of hand. And I agree with Dave here and it goes without saying,
- 1:06:39but I'm gonna say it anyway. Anybody going after any coach's family is ridiculous
- 1:06:44and egregious. Check check yourself. If that's your I gess that's your line.
- 1:06:48I strongly suspect that. Think about not just this situation, but if
- 1:06:54you are an if you are a fan and you want a new coach,
- 1:07:00okay, and you want the coach to be replaced, then in essence you're
- 1:07:04rooting for maybe not rooting, but then you want you want your idea to
- 1:07:10be reinforced. You want the team to lose. You want the team to
- 1:07:14lose. So when the team wins. It's not like, oh, maybe
- 1:07:18I was wrong and it's going to be okay, you don't say anything,
- 1:07:23But when they lose and get whacked, you go. That reinforces your belief.
- 1:07:27See, I told you he should be fired, Therefore he should be
- 1:07:30fired. So if you want the person to be fired, you actually are
- 1:07:32looking for an excuse to reinforce your argument that he or she is fired.
- 1:07:39Therefore the losses, whether you're rooting for against them or form, the losses
- 1:07:44benefit your argument. Let's just yeah, I'll believe. Let's just keep this
- 1:07:48in mind. This is the all time closer to the argument. They hung
- 1:07:53Bobby Bowden and they wanted don Neelan fired two of the most successful coaches in
- 1:08:01the history of college football. That's all. So it's just part Unfortunately,
- 1:08:09it's just part of the deal. You're going to have a group, it
- 1:08:12doesn't matter who it is. It doesn't matter who it is. You're going
- 1:08:15to have a group that gets loud. That's what it is. But occasionally
- 1:08:19you do have to fire the coach. Okay, I wouldn't in this instance,
- 1:08:25but I'm saying that does happen. So sometimes the complaints are very valid
- 1:08:30and you got to fire the coach. Three guys spirit of the West Virginia
- 1:08:35connection. Surprise, no one mentioned this on the broadcast. There was a
- 1:08:40lot of key Key Tandy Jacksonville state's leading scorer, Hopkinsville, Kentucky. That
- 1:08:45is former Mountaineer Keith Tandy's cousin. One of my favorite plays is Mountaineer History
- 1:08:51is Tandy nearly cutting Cincinnati receiver DJ Woods in half on a screenpast. I
- 1:08:58remember that? Remember that? Remember that hit? You remember that front the
- 1:09:03Mountaineer bench. He catches a screen in front of the Mountaineer bench and Keith
- 1:09:10Tandy was laying in wait. It was one of those explosions like where you
- 1:09:14see the helmet paint like go up in the air, and my man,
- 1:09:17would it be a penalty today? That's a good question. I don't know
- 1:09:20if you targeted him, but he just blew him up. Yeah. That
- 1:09:26was from Reid in New Jersey. Hey, before are you done? Hoppy?
- 1:09:30The floor is always yours? Well, I just you mentioned it.
- 1:09:33But there's an interesting kind of synchronicity to this game because West Virginia is playing
- 1:09:40Cincinnati. The first game at Mylon Pushcar Stadium was Cincinnati back in nineteen eighty.
- 1:09:45West Virginia won that game. The head coach for West Virginia at that
- 1:09:48time, of course, was Donnelan. Now don Neeland's being brought back and
- 1:09:51this is the Cincinnati game and being honored and the diversified, diversified energy Ring
- 1:09:57of Honor, And I actually think it's a little late, but I'm glad
- 1:10:00they finally got to it. But what a just what a remarkable career brand.
- 1:10:05I think he's the I don't think he is the patriarch of the modern
- 1:10:11era of mountaineer sports, no doubt of mountaineer of mountaineer football, no doubt
- 1:10:15got you going in this direction. Quite frankly, as we've said many times,
- 1:10:17the reason you were able to stay in Power five Power for football,
- 1:10:23yeah, was because of the success that was laid, primarily by him getting
- 1:10:27the thing and going laid that made West Virginia a national power played for national
- 1:10:30championship, and as we love in West Virginia, after he retired, stayed
- 1:10:35yeah, stayed still here. No, you're exactly right, one of the
- 1:10:40best. And to your point, Brad, he legitimized West Virginia's brand to
- 1:10:45the point that it's still a Power five school that's what he did. If
- 1:10:48the thing would have just gone down the you could have been Connecticut and talk
- 1:10:53about I mean, talk about a great decision, because you know, the
- 1:10:55always the story is he was at Michigan and Buchan Becker was telling him,
- 1:10:59my god, don't take that. That's a terrible job. Brih. What
- 1:11:01did you do in a different era too? As we talk so often,
- 1:11:04if not only him and how long he stayed and other jobs that he didn't
- 1:11:09take. But that's staff. Oh yeah, together. That's the part that
- 1:11:13just doesn't happen now that not only does the head coach stay for two decades,
- 1:11:16but the majority of a staff stays together like that. So different era,
- 1:11:21yeah, absolutely absolutely different era. Hey. As we said earlier on,
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- 1:13:08All right, we're done. Okay, we're back Sunday. We'll recap
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