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Another Church Attacked · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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Speaker 1: The news, opinions, commentary, and interviews. You need to start
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Speaker 1: your day when you're listening to The West Carrol Morning Show.
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Speaker 2: Monday morning, twenty ninth day of September. I'm West thanks
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Speaker 2: for joining me. We're getting close to the end of September,
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Speaker 2: and we had our little slight break, slight temperature break
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Speaker 2: here in Georgia. But it's I guess, back with a
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Speaker 2: vengeance for We're not quite a vengeance, but it's much
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Speaker 2: warmer than you'd want late September. But we're used to it.
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Speaker 2: This is kind of what happens here. This is what
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Speaker 2: we deal with, and we will get indoor a couple
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Speaker 2: more weeks, a couple more weeks, things will get a
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Speaker 2: little bit better. They're going to get better. Well, it
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Speaker 2: was a horrific scene. And this is a developing story
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Speaker 2: out of Grand Blank Township, Michigan. And we'll track this
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Speaker 2: a little bit more as it goes on. But obviously
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Speaker 2: this is just a horrifying situation where and I guess
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Speaker 2: they've identical. They identified the guy late yesterday and I'm
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Speaker 2: not big on names, but I will in this case
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Speaker 2: at least mentioned him once. Thomas Jacob Sandford. They say
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Speaker 2: is the person who did this attack. Crashed a vehicle
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Speaker 2: into an LDS church, a Mormon church there, and a
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Speaker 2: forty year old Sandford started shooting at people and set
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Speaker 2: the church on fire, and just a horrible scene. Again,
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Speaker 2: we'll follow us more as it develops. There's not I
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Speaker 2: feel like this is one of those things we need
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Speaker 2: to know more information about it. I just know I
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Speaker 2: had a conversation with someone right around the time of
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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk's death, and they were just telling me that
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Speaker 2: they don't like the idea that there's so many people
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Speaker 2: who think that the church is under attack, And you know,
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Speaker 2: I think it's one of those things where I've said
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Speaker 2: many times here that I don't like to think that
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Speaker 2: it is. I would love to think that the church
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Speaker 2: isn't under attack, or churches in general aren't under attacked.
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Speaker 2: But it's hard not to look overseas. It's hard not
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Speaker 2: to look to Africa, where there have been tens of thousands,
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Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of Christians killed, basically looking to and
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Speaker 2: this is something that like Bill Maher is finally talking
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Speaker 2: about and you're not hearing about it from a lot
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Speaker 2: of news outlets, But when you're hearing about you know,
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Speaker 2: tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands and parts of
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Speaker 2: Africa people being killed by Muslims. Hard to ignore that,
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Speaker 2: but I think a lot of the media has ignored it.
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Speaker 2: We kind of get caught up in things that are
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Speaker 2: going on in our news feed or whatever we see
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Speaker 2: as the important thing, and we ignore that. And I've
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Speaker 2: set and we've had these situations now where we've had
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Speaker 2: shootings at churches, We've had people going into Christian schools,
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Speaker 2: We've had obviously this now attack on this Mormon church.
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Speaker 2: And it's you know, the thing that I have said
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Speaker 2: for years about this topic in general, and now that
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Speaker 2: it's it feels literally under fire, with people being killed,
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Speaker 2: with you know, shootings, with this horrific scene that we've
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Speaker 2: heard described from yesterday, it also to me is it's
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Speaker 2: more And Charlie kirk Is certainly feels like it falls
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Speaker 2: into that category as well. And while you know, what
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Speaker 2: he did wasn't technically, I guess considered a ministry, that's
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Speaker 2: part of what he did when he went to these schools,
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Speaker 2: and he certainly has brought a revival to college campuses
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Speaker 2: around the country because of being shot and killed and
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Speaker 2: I think a Christian martyr was someone who died for
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Speaker 2: his beliefs. It's the definition, that's what it is. But
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Speaker 2: my thing with churches and politics, and I've said this before,
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Speaker 2: and I truly believe there's a few layers to this,
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Speaker 2: but I do believe that at its basic core, what
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Speaker 2: we have seen is the the attack that the non
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Speaker 2: literal attack, but the attack on churches, to me, has
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Speaker 2: largely been about taking away their importance in our society
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Speaker 2: and how we function in what we do. That's what
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Speaker 2: I believe, and I think it ties into when you
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Speaker 2: have a government that wants a certain amount, and I
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Speaker 2: feel like when you say a certain amount, when I
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Speaker 2: say that, I mean as many people as possible, to
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Speaker 2: depend on them for as many things as possible. I do.
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Speaker 2: I don't think that this idea of progressivism in America
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Speaker 2: is really about helping people. It's about creating dependency on them.
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Speaker 2: I truly believe that, because if that wasn't the case,
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Speaker 2: why wouldn't they want churches as part of the network
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Speaker 2: of places to help people that need it. But they don't.
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Speaker 2: They spit on churches. They treat churches like their garbage,
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Speaker 2: and they want because if your church is the thing
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Speaker 2: that's helping people, and churches do. I'm not saying that
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Speaker 2: churches don't. I just don't think that they want churches
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Speaker 2: in the mix. See, our founders intended for all of
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Speaker 2: this to come from churches. The idea was that your
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Speaker 2: community and that the church would be the thing that
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Speaker 2: would help you. And you know, we are in a
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Speaker 2: country that for some reason buys into this concept of
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Speaker 2: separation of church and state. It's not any of our
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Speaker 2: legal documents. It's in a letter from Thomas Jefferson, he wrote,
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Speaker 2: but it's not in anything as a legal document. That
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Speaker 2: is not a founding principle of our country. Our country
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Speaker 2: can't force us to participate in religion or stop us
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Speaker 2: from participating in religion. That's it in a nutshell. So
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Speaker 2: they don't want people to feel like, well, I need
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Speaker 2: to go to my church for help. They don't want
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Speaker 2: you to have a church to go to. That's how
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Speaker 2: I have felt that. To me, that's been the real
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Speaker 2: attack on churches, and that's the place where I believe
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Speaker 2: us to be. And I think it largely has to
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Speaker 2: do with that very fact. They want to know that
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Speaker 2: there's a dependency and then this a certain amount of well,
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Speaker 2: I'm going to pay back with a vote. I'm going
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Speaker 2: to keep whatever it is that I need coming for
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Speaker 2: as long as I can get it for some, not
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Speaker 2: for everyone. But I think that that's the mindset that
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Speaker 2: they have, that that's what they want. And if you
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Speaker 2: truly believe this progressivism that we have that is trying
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Speaker 2: to really lift people up and put them in a
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Speaker 2: position to succeed and not just prolong this, then why
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Speaker 2: would you leave the border open. Why would you create
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Speaker 2: a dynamic where people would just flood in, skip the line,
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Speaker 2: skip any of that. Like if you've got family that
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Speaker 2: wanted to come in and they were going through the
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Speaker 2: process and you were ready to let them skip ahead,
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Speaker 2: it's not a you know, one of the big things
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Speaker 2: that took place in this past election and some of
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Speaker 2: the exit polling, was the number of Black Americans who
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Speaker 2: said that they feel like their interests were being neglected
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Speaker 2: in the name of people coming across the border to
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Speaker 2: be in America and they felt like they were being
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Speaker 2: pushed aside. One of the things that's popped up about
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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk that people have complained about as they said, well,
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Speaker 2: he bought into the great, and I think we addressed
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Speaker 2: this some last week, but that he bought into the
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Speaker 2: great conspiracy theory about replacement theory and about how, you know,
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Speaker 2: we had people coming across the border to replace others,
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Speaker 2: specifically the original ideas, and it's a racist thing that
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Speaker 2: you don't want them coming in and taking the places
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Speaker 2: of white Americans, and that that was a big conspiracy theory.
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Speaker 2: But again, once black Americans started voicing this, and we
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Speaker 2: were hearing that from a lot of the Black Americans
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Speaker 2: who again there was a baffling like how in the
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Speaker 2: world are black people not voting for the black woman
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Speaker 2: for president? And first of all, it's so insulting to
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Speaker 2: think that they can't see a bad candidate, that they
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Speaker 2: can't look at her and listen to her and say, yeah,
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Speaker 2: this isn't the right person. That's insulting in so many ways.
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Speaker 2: And if this book tour, I think we're going to
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Speaker 2: do more on this later in the week. But this
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Speaker 2: book tour thing isn't showing us how unbelievably unprepared and
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Speaker 2: incompetent she is and was as a candidate. She's complaining
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Speaker 2: that she only had one hundred and seven days or
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Speaker 2: whatever to run. She would have done so much better.
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Speaker 2: If she had just had like a week, like two weeks,
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Speaker 2: she would have done better. But the longer she was
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Speaker 2: out there, the worse she looked. We'll do more on
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Speaker 2: that later, but when you hear from Black Americans, it said, look,
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Speaker 2: we're not we weren't voting for her because she was
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Speaker 2: the border person. I don't know if they specifically addressed that,
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Speaker 2: but that was one of the problems to me that
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Speaker 2: I could see for them, for the ones that were
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Speaker 2: addressing it and saying, look, you're just letting people come
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Speaker 2: in and you're bumping their needs ahead of hours. You're
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Speaker 2: putting them in fancy hotels and feeding them, you know,
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Speaker 2: really nice food, and they're spitting it in your face
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Speaker 2: and saying it's not nice enough. The hotel's not nice
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Speaker 2: enough our circumstances and they're trashing the hotels and all
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Speaker 2: these things that were taking place, and a lot of
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Speaker 2: Black Americans said, no, this is not what we're voting
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Speaker 2: for more of, and they did. They saw her as
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Speaker 2: a candidate, and I think I hope they were seeing
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Speaker 2: Joe Biden as that. I hope that it wouldn't have mattered.
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Speaker 2: I mean, we were seeing him as someone who incapable
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Speaker 2: of doing the job anyway, something she's still not comfortable saying.
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Speaker 2: I think it was written in her book, but I
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Speaker 2: don't think she wrote the book. But again, we'll talk
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Speaker 2: more about that. And it's not horrible. That's what you
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Speaker 2: do when you get out of politics. Somebody writes a
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Speaker 2: book for you. But it would help if she had
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Speaker 2: at least read it. More on that later, I think
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Speaker 2: maybe tomorrow, I think we'll talk about that. I don't know,
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Speaker 2: unless something else happens the way that we're going, it's
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Speaker 2: just a matter of waiting on the next thing to happen. Sadly,
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Speaker 2: and that's kind of where we are. But we have
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Speaker 2: this situation where, yeah, people are I think, seeing some
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Speaker 2: of this and realizing that this notion of progressivism isn't
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Speaker 2: really looking out for middle class, specifically lower middle class Americans.
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Speaker 2: And I've talked about this before too. I've just felt
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Speaker 2: like some of these policies and things are about taking
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Speaker 2: someone who's in the middle class or upper middle class
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Speaker 2: and just pushing them down a little bit. Take everybody
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Speaker 2: down a notch, take everybody down a little bit, try
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Speaker 2: to entice those lower middle class people as they maybe
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Speaker 2: get squashed down just a little bit more, their salaries
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Speaker 2: not going up, but the people that are new to
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Speaker 2: the company are coming in making more than them or
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Speaker 2: the same as them, and they say, well, wait a minute,
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Speaker 2: shouldn't everybody be making a good wage, And say, well,
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Speaker 2: I've been here twenty years. Why am I not getting
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Speaker 2: a little bump when you got new people coming in
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Speaker 2: and making the same as me. And sadly, that's the
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Speaker 2: kind of thing that does take the middle class or
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Speaker 2: the lower middle class and just push them down one
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Speaker 2: notch and maybe put them in a position where they
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Speaker 2: need some help. And if they're not going to turn
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Speaker 2: to their church, who are they going to turn to.
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Speaker 2: They're going to turn to the government that's going to say, hey,
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Speaker 2: we're here to help, We are here to help. I've
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Speaker 2: told this story a few times. I used to work
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Speaker 2: with someone that told me that when she was a kid,
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Speaker 2: her family was part of a lottery in Atlanta and
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Speaker 2: they want a house. It was, hey, we're giving away
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Speaker 2: some houses, and the houses were paid for with taxpayer money.
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Speaker 2: But it was a Democrat mayor in Atlanta that gave
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Speaker 2: her family a house. And she said, I feel and
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Speaker 2: will always feel for the rest of my life that
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Speaker 2: I should vote Democrat to pay them back for this
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Speaker 2: kindness that was extended to my family. I'm making it
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Speaker 2: sound a lot more eloquent than she did, but I'm
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Speaker 2: giving her the benefit of the doubt, and I believe
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Speaker 2: she did vote Democrat until she passed away. But she
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Speaker 2: is an example of someone who I feel like is
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Speaker 2: exactly what they're looking for. Sometimes they're looking for someone
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Speaker 2: who's willing to say, look, I'm in. You've bought and
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Speaker 2: paid for me for the rest of my life. I'm in.
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Speaker 2: This is who I'm going to be. She didn't get
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Speaker 2: an opportunity to see Kamala Harris as a candidate, so
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Speaker 2: I don't know what she thought of it thought of
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Speaker 2: her as a candidate. I think maybe she was probably
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Speaker 2: one of those people who did not vote for her
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Speaker 2: four years prior as far as or eight years prior
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Speaker 2: when she was running. Is it none? That would have
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Speaker 2: been four years, wouldn't it, Yeah, would have been twenty twenty.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what she thought of her when she
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Speaker 2: was serving in the Senate. I don't know. I don't
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Speaker 2: know where she was with that. I just know that
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Speaker 2: she probably would have voted for her, because again, she
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Speaker 2: felt like her vote was bought and paid for and
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Speaker 2: that it needed to be So. I don't know how
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Speaker 2: we can look at what's going on around the world.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what we can look at as something
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Speaker 2: that is not a specific attack on churches. And when
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Speaker 2: I say that, you know, I know people, and I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna upset some people when I say this. I know,
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Speaker 2: but I know people who Christmas is under attack because
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Speaker 2: people say happy Holidays. None of that's ever bothered me,
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Speaker 2: to be completely honest, It's never bothered me. I've I've
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Speaker 2: got dear friends who it does. Some of them may
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Speaker 2: even be listening. Now, that's the least of my concerns.
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Speaker 2: If someone wants to say just a generic greeting of
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Speaker 2: happy holidays, I don't think that puts the church under it.
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Speaker 2: Maybe it is, Maybe it's part of the big tent
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Speaker 2: let's take them down operation. I don't know. I've never
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Speaker 2: perceived it that way, and I think that's a little
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Speaker 2: unfortunate because I think that's the kind of thing that
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Speaker 2: makes people like this person I was talking about started
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Speaker 2: the conversation when they were telling me that they just
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Speaker 2: don't see that they don't see that the church is
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Speaker 2: under attack. And I think you every time you hear
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Speaker 2: somebody say, hey, I believe Starbucks didn't even put a
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Speaker 2: cross on their cup. Instead they put you know, no, well,
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Speaker 2: happy holidays or whatever it is. I don't know. Those
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Speaker 2: things don't bother me. They just don't. I got other
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Speaker 2: things to worry about besides that. But maybe it is,
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Speaker 2: Maybe that's all part of the big picture attack. I
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Speaker 2: don't know. I don't have the energy for that. I'm
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Speaker 2: too busy praying for churches that have gotten burned down.
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Speaker 2: I'm too busy praying for Charlie Kirk's family and all
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Speaker 2: of the people who are have currently felt like they
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Speaker 2: need to be more violent because Charlie Kirk was killed
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Speaker 2: and that the other people like him need to be killed.
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Speaker 2: brace yourself. Some of these are not going to surprise you.
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Speaker 2: Some of these might doom scroll, Yes, that's something that's
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Speaker 2: long overdue. Beast mode. Use that term a lot. I
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Speaker 2: got a kid I coached in soccer. That's the only
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Speaker 2: way I refer to him. Hard pass regular thing you're
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Speaker 2: gonna hear in work environments. I guess ghost kitchen formed
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Speaker 2: a table side. I use that one a lot. Adulting,
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Speaker 2: I mean, twenty two years of not adding any I
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Speaker 2: guess it doesn't surprise me. But if they were updating
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Speaker 2: more often, adulting would be in there. I'm sure dash cam,
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Speaker 2: dumb phone, dad, bod cancel, culture riz it's kind of
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Speaker 2: a newer one, and cold brew all new terms among
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Speaker 2: the five thousand new words. So there you go. I
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Speaker 2: don't like I said, I don't know that any of
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Speaker 2: those are a big shock for me to find out
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Speaker 2: they're in there. But not unusual for anyone shopping for
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Speaker 2: a car to take a vehicle for a test drive
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Speaker 2: before buying it. But what about people buying a house?
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Speaker 2: Why can't they try before they buy? There have been
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Speaker 2: some examples lately of home buyers spending more and more
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Speaker 2: time in the properties they're interested in, especially for high
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Speaker 2: end mansions and estates. One example, a couple interested in
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Speaker 2: a sixty million dollar mansion in Newport Beach, California, stayed
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Speaker 2: for two months with staff and cars included, before deciding
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Speaker 2: not to buy. The seller still made five hundred thousand
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Speaker 2: from the arrangement, though not a bad deal for him.
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Speaker 2: Not really a widespread thing though, just yet, but it
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Speaker 2: possibly could be, especially considering it's often the biggest purchase
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Speaker 2: a person will make in their lifetime. Kind Of an
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Speaker 2: interesting idea that you'd spend some time there. What's interesting
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Speaker 2: about that story, though, is that you know they're there
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Speaker 2: with the staff and cars and all of that included.
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Speaker 2: That's a little interesting, all right. It's a Taylor Swift thing.
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Speaker 2: I guess. The name Marjorie has skyrocket and popularity, jumping
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Speaker 2: over four hundred spots on these Social Security Administration's baby
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Speaker 2: names list. In just a year. There is some vintage
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Speaker 2: charm about it, and Taylor Swift is also part of
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Speaker 2: that Taylor song Marjorie Now I Know Two titles No. Three,
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Speaker 2: No Three Taylor Swift titles from her Evermore album is
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Speaker 2: a tribute to her late grandmother and it has been
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Speaker 2: featured prominently during her recent Eras tour. Other Swift inspired
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Speaker 2: names like Willow, August, Archer, Lavender are trending to August
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Speaker 2: is the other one, and then the shake it the
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Speaker 2: one that shake it off. That's the three that I
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Speaker 2: knew is Willow, Willer, Willow and Archer up mix those
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Speaker 2: two together and Lavender are those Taylor Swift songs. I guess.
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Speaker 2: So are we sure that the Marjorie isn't? Because if
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Speaker 2: we're gonna get Taylor Swift involved, maybe Marjorie Taylor Green.
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Speaker 2: Maybe that's my appeoval people seem to love her all
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Speaker 2: over the country. They just seem to love her. That'll
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