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186. [Louisiana] The Third Killer: Jeffery Lee Guillory · Bless This Mess: A Southern True Crime Podcast

• 0:20
  Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome, bless this mess. In the True Grum podcast.
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: I don't care here, whats do? So I hayes do?
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: All right, we're back this week and we were going
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  Speaker 1: back to Louisiana. We have our yes, we have our
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: third serial killer in that timeframe. Sorry, I'm having some
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: issues drinking a diet coke so because target failed me
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  Speaker 1: and I really wanted a glass of prosecco rose. And
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: then so I bit the bullet and was like, okay,
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: I got a deal on delivery, so I was gonna
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  Speaker 1: deliver it and then you know, fuck you over in
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  Speaker 1: the drive through.
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  Speaker 2: So we don't get fun care for this one.
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: No, so they were and then I had to cancel
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  Speaker 1: it because I'm like, oh, I don't want it if
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be. The point was for you to
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  Speaker 1: get to here fast. About me having to get out
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: and it's one hundred plus three degree weather because it
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: is so hot here. Everybody. It is so hot. The
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  Speaker 1: air conditioner can't even keep up. It's been like warm
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  Speaker 1: in here. Even the five year old today when we
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: were in here doing her reading lesson, she was like,
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  Speaker 1: it's hot in here, and I was thinking, it is
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: hot in here, and I know it's hot in Houston. Okay, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: we know it's hot. We know it's human. But I'll
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  Speaker 1: take that over. It's like it's like stepping into an
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  Speaker 1: oven here. It really is. It feels that's what it
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  Speaker 1: feels like.
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  Speaker 2: Hot.
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  Speaker 1: It's a dry heat. That's how I sold the place
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  Speaker 1: to stew. But it's a bunch of bullshit. Every but
• 1:45
  Speaker 1: it's like it's a dry heat, like it's no big
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  Speaker 1: deal because it's a dry heat.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, when you actually go in the shade, you actually
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  Speaker 2: get cooler.
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  Speaker 1: It's true, though, when you go in the shade, you
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  Speaker 1: do get cooler. However, if you step out and just
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  Speaker 1: from your air conditioner, it's the first time that you're
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: stepping out in the day, and it's later in the
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: evening when it's like real like five PM or so,
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  Speaker 1: the hottest part. It does feel like you've just opened
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  Speaker 1: your oven and stuck your head and breath. Yes, so
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  Speaker 1: it is hot here.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I cannot wait to get back to the humidity.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, we'll take all commity.
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  Speaker 2: I never thought I would say that, but I cannot
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  Speaker 2: wait to get back to the humidity.
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  Speaker 1: So if you are new here, we are moving in
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  Speaker 1: now four it's right. At four weeks, the movers will
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  Speaker 1: be here. We have movers because it is we're moving
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  Speaker 1: for my job, so we they do provide movers, thank god,
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  Speaker 1: because I just would sit here and cry. I would
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  Speaker 1: really just cry. I wouldn't move and be like, never mind,
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  Speaker 1: this is where we.
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  Speaker 2: Live for the rest. Yes, no, I will stay here.
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  Speaker 1: So actually, I take that back. I will not.
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  Speaker 2: I'll just take all the shit to good will and
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  Speaker 2: be done with it.
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  Speaker 1: Just start over new at the new place from scratch anyways.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, we are in the in the midst of myths,
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  Speaker 1: miss Mi, midst midst midst of moving and so decluttering
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  Speaker 1: trying to I did get the bathroom done, like all
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  Speaker 1: the I threw away a ton of stuff out of
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  Speaker 1: the bathroom, so that's all good. And we got to
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  Speaker 1: slowly just try to get some of it done. But
• 3:18
  Speaker 1: at this point we're just taking it all and then
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  Speaker 1: we'll figure it out when we get there. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: so excited because this is an older house. It's two story,
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  Speaker 1: which is a new situation for us.
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  Speaker 2: I will say, I'm get my steps in.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it's a new situation for us to have a
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  Speaker 1: two story home. But with the square footage we need.
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  Speaker 1: It is hard to get these. It's hard to get
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  Speaker 1: a house that's not two story for the square footage
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  Speaker 1: we needed for six people living in there. You can
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  Speaker 1: get like a ranch style home, but they don't have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of those in neighborhoods, you know, like where
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  Speaker 1: we need to be close to my work and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: You could find that more probably in the country, like
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  Speaker 1: a ranch style home or the one of those like
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  Speaker 1: eighties style, those long ones. Is that what it's called?
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  Speaker 2: Ranch style style?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're just long, they're big, long houses.
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  Speaker 2: So shotgun houses.
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  Speaker 1: No, not not a shotgun house. It's called a ranch
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  Speaker 1: style house or whatever I think is what it's called.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a shot I know what a shotgun house
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  Speaker 1: is because you can shoot a shotgun from one day
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  Speaker 1: into No, I'm just saying, like the long the longer houses. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: a wider home. Okay, we're gonna move on. Because I
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  Speaker 1: started rambling or whatever, I just cut a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: the shit out. I just said, okay, because I don't
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  Speaker 1: know where was going on. I was meandrink you were
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  Speaker 1: all right, So uh, let's go ahead and get into it.
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  Speaker 1: just talk about what's going on with our lives. Like
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  Speaker 1: last time we talked about me being drunk at oh, severely.
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  Speaker 2: Drunk, severely drunk.
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  Speaker 1: You know I still got it in me. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm starting it's not fun for me. I'm starting to question.
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  Speaker 2: Because you were beyond the point of being fun.
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  Speaker 1: No, I am fun Kara. But the good thing about
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  Speaker 1: me I was I was talking to the lady at
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  Speaker 1: work and she and she she was my bad wedding
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  Speaker 1: date because I told her, you're not allowed to be
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  Speaker 1: my wedding date ever again, because you're a bad influence.
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  Speaker 1: I found out she was giving me tequila shots and
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  Speaker 1: I just didn't remember happening.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I said. How drunk were you? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: So my point is, she said, as long as you
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  Speaker 1: don't throw up or get in a fight, it's fine,
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  Speaker 1: And I did not. I don't did neither of those things.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a pretty I mean, if I was going to
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  Speaker 1: get it, do anything happen with that, I would throw up,
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  Speaker 1: Like that would be more likely what I would do.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a pretty go along, get along drinker.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm either I'm like dance for or something. I'm
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  Speaker 1: either going to going to bed, I get tired, or.
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  Speaker 2: I get goofy or violently ill.
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  Speaker 1: That's usually the next egg. I think of allergic to alcohol,
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  Speaker 1: which I think we're all allergic because it is a
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  Speaker 1: poison and everything. But you know, I start those things,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you shouldn't be drinking, drinking poison, alcohols, poison,
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  Speaker 1: blah bla blah. I'm like, boo, you know.
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  Speaker 2: What you said. You said I'm never drinking again, and
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  Speaker 2: you're on that wagon for a good week.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe we were, because you know what, I like a
• 6:33
  Speaker 1: crisp chard Nay with my sharcouterie board. Okay. I like
• 6:37
  Speaker 1: a prosecco rose. I like a fun margarita on Mexican night.
• 6:41
  Speaker 1: I like these things. And what's you know there's people that.
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  Speaker 2: That's how we got Jamison, little Tequila, Rose and Tito
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  Speaker 2: that's our kids' names. That's what Tara was drinking.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever anyways, so true. Our patron really appreciate everybody. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: We do have some stickers from a law if you
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  Speaker 1: recall a long long time ago, maybe still send out
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  Speaker 1: the stickers. At the new house, we have, we have
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  Speaker 1: a space there. We can be more, we can do
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  Speaker 1: more things. They the people built a giant storage area
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  Speaker 1: back there, like air conditioned with plumbing in it and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yea, because they were running a little business on her.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she was running like embroidery business. So it's like
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  Speaker 1: this huge space off the garage where we can actually
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  Speaker 1: set up to like do something like that. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: we can't do anything because these children are everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, they put their hands on everything.
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  Speaker 1: the open floor plans do there's no privacy. Our Our
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  Speaker 1: bedroom is basically an extension of the front room. It's
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  Speaker 1: so annoying, like.
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  Speaker 2: Because they're right off the little bike.
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  Speaker 1: I hate an open floor plan. It's the downfall of
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• 9:53
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  Speaker 1: true crime?
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  Speaker 2: It has, It.
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  Speaker 1: Has never nothing to do with it, except for I
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  Speaker 1: do chop up little pieces of body and sneak it
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  Speaker 2: Sleek and taste it.
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  Speaker 1: I do share true crime recommendations, but I have been
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  Speaker 1: So let's go ahead. Oh do people do? People were
• 10:47
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• 10:49
  Speaker 1: a real quick rundown. So I finished Good Joy, Bad Joy. Yes,
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: they can skip through this Good Joy, Bad Joy. That's
• 10:56
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• 10:59
  Speaker 1: to take but a minute too. So if your listeners
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: now just do it. Hit it four times. Good Joy,
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: Bad Joy, very lovely book. It was about this eighty
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: nine year old woman and her friend is dying, and
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: so she's kind of just like reevaluating her life. And
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: her friend was kind of like a free spirit, traveled
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: the world, did all sorts of things, and then she
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: was kind of the one who stayed in the hometown,
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: married the first guy she met, had the children, did everything.
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: So her husband was a that not that great, but
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: you know, she stayed with him and stuff like that
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  Speaker 1: to try to just keep keep the peace and do
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  Speaker 1: the right thing and everything. So then she kind of
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: is like, oh, maybe I need to live my life
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. So at eighty nine years old, she's like,
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  Speaker 1: I think I can choose to do. I'm kind of
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: like invisible, so I can go and pull the fire
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  Speaker 1: alarm and no one's gonna to me. So anyway, so
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  Speaker 1: it goes through that with her. Anyways, it was a
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  Speaker 1: real nice book. I did enjoy that when I gave
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  Speaker 1: it five stars. Then when I'm so then I moved
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: on to a good person, which is about so far,
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  Speaker 1: I'm only like fifty pages in. Her name's Lillian, and
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: she is if you like a crazy bitch, this is
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: this is your book, you know, And I do like that,
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: so so far I'm enjoying it. Basically, she's dating this guy,
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: or she's kind of like hooking up with this guy.
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  Speaker 1: She wants him to be her boyfriend. He breaks up
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  Speaker 1: with her and then he ends up dead, and then
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  Speaker 1: she's like the prime suspect or whatever. So but she's
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: like crazy though, you know, so I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: it words gonna go at.
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  Speaker 2: But it's only fifty pages.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that could be it. So that's what I'm
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  Speaker 1: currently reading. And yeah, all right, so now we'll get
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  Speaker 1: into it. So if you're we're skipping through, the story
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  Speaker 1: is about to begin right now, all right, on April eleventh,
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and two, in Baton Room, Louisiana, behind the
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  Speaker 1: behind the old Mason Blanche. Is that how I would
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  Speaker 1: say that?
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  Speaker 2: That is.
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  Speaker 1: Maison Blanche. I'm I'm learning Spanish right now, so I
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  Speaker 1: can't be bothered with such things as French.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, yes, the way it just hits.
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  Speaker 1: The cometa comeista. I tried to practice all those I
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  Speaker 1: tried my my cute my office mate, she speaks Spanish,
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  Speaker 1: and so normally I wait for her to be down
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  Speaker 1: there with me at the lunch line because the ladies,
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  Speaker 1: the ladies that serve the lunch are Hispanic, so they're
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  Speaker 1: always speaking Spanish. So I usually wait.
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  Speaker 2: For her there talking about you.
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  Speaker 1: No, I usually wait for her to be about that.
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  Speaker 2: Bald lady coming down being difficult.
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  Speaker 1: I'm actually very there's some people that are really difficult
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  Speaker 1: at that because our our work provides lunch for us
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  Speaker 1: against their will, but they do. It's a long story. Anyways,
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  Speaker 1: I usually wait for her to be down there with
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  Speaker 1: me to practice my Spanish with the ladies, and so
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  Speaker 1: I didn't today because I had to run down and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, be brave, Kara, be brave, just like
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  Speaker 1: do it. And so I was like grossier, oh no,
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  Speaker 1: not grocies.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, that's a difficult one there.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, hola, and then I said, como sta
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  Speaker 1: she said. She just looked at me. She's like, will
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  Speaker 1: we be in? And then she said something else. I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't understand her, so so I got real awkward, and
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  Speaker 1: I said and then it was and then it was
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  Speaker 1: just awkward.
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  Speaker 2: And then I was like, did you rub your head
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  Speaker 2: right there? That's probably And then.
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  Speaker 3: I was like I gotta I gotta finish this, like
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  Speaker 3: I gotta close this out.
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  Speaker 1: I can't just abandon the script right now.
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  Speaker 3: Anyways, so then she hands me my food and then
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  Speaker 3: she's like she asked me what I wanted to and
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  Speaker 3: so I didn't know how to say pickles and onions Spanish,
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  Speaker 3: so she just looked at she said, I said, see, so.
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  Speaker 2: She was talking to you in English and you were
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  Speaker 2: answering with c no and Grassius yes.
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  Speaker 1: And then I'm like, no, you need to practice. So
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  Speaker 1: then uh, because it said the thing says like be
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  Speaker 1: brave and practice people. I should have just I should
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  Speaker 1: have just stuck with my you know, my office mate. Anyways,
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  Speaker 1: so then whenever I leave, I said, Grassius left, and
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  Speaker 1: then I went upstairs and I told her. She's like,
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  Speaker 1: she's like, oh, at the door, you're just trying to learn,
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  Speaker 1: because she usually tells him in Spanish like she's trying
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  Speaker 1: to learn Spanish. So and then they're they kind of
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: know to do like a basic like you're talking to
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  Speaker 1: a five year old conversation real slow, yes, real slow,
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  Speaker 1: and keep it. So if I say come Osta, they say,
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  Speaker 1: mouie be in Ousta And I said, mooh.
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  Speaker 2: Like you're in a Spanish class.
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  Speaker 1: Eleven one Spanish class. Anyway, Okay, back to back to
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  Speaker 1: the story story. You know they're really gonna miss me
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  Speaker 1: up at that office.
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  Speaker 2: We stopped on the first.
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  Speaker 1: All right, April eleventh, two thousand and two, and Baton,
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  Speaker 1: Louisiana behind the old mess On Blanche department store on
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  Speaker 1: main street was a boarded up, abandoned building that you know,
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  Speaker 1: you walk by and it's super sketchy.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, just let's hurry on bike, like that one
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  Speaker 2: we said by New Mexico where we were walking around
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  Speaker 2: the block and they were boarded up.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, New Mexicana. We were in Albuquerque.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Someone notices something in the flower bed along the sidewall.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Well it's not just something, it's the body of a woman.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: She's on her back, legs spread deliberately across a small tree,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: as if someone had taken the time to arrange her
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: that way. Her face and chest are already covered in insects,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: and her own shirt has been pulled up and knotted
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: tighter on her throat. Her name is Renee Newman. She's
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: forty six years old. By the time detectives finished processing
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: the scene, they think they already know who did this.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Baton Rouge had spent the better part of a decade
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: hunting serial killers, because remember this our third serial killer. Okay, yes,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: this is could you even imagine like living there and
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I mean they were spread out like it all happened.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Over a decade, imagine.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Well okay, but during that time. It did all happen
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: over a decade. But that's a lot of dead, dead
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: bodies because Derek Todd was no just in that area.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Though Derek Todd was seven, the Gilliskuy was eight, and
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: then this one's three. So we're talking almost twenty bodies.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Happened.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that wasn't at the same time or in
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: the same area. This is all in the same city.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, there's a lot of stuff.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I know, there's a lot of there's a lot of
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: crops people, there's a lot of.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Crazy people, almost like somebody from Lafayette was just running
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: around doing it.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, was it you? They've got this body and they're thinking, Okay,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: this has got to be attributed to one of these
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: serial killers that they're already looking for. Well, they were
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: wrong about this one, and it will take nine more
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: years to finally come find out who was this third
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: serial killer terrorizing Baton Rouge.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Going back to nineteen ninety nine, Baton Rouge, you know,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: they're already afraid. The women are disappearing off the interstate,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: off the jogging trails, out of their own front yards.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: People are breaking into their houses and snatching them out
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: of there. They're turning up strangled in the ditches in
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: the bayous out in Whiskey Bay. Two names will eventually
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: explain most of it, as we have already told you.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Derek Toddley a bricklayer who moves around work crews three
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: different parishes. So he's he's out and about. He's able
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: to see like what do you want to call it,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: case cases.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Areas that he casing, the joint.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Casing the areas that he's going to commit crimes in well.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: And we know from him he had been honing his
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: skills from he had started off as a peeping tom
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: and then burglary and then got to where he was
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: able to break into women's houses. And because of the
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: work that he did, he was able to move around,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: like said, different parishes, and he was familiar with the area,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: very familiar with the area because he spent a lot
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: of time going different places.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Because he was working out there outside, he was able
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: to survey the area. It's not like he was just
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: walking and creeping.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: And and he can go unnoticed because anytime you see
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: a worker. We see workers all the time, whether it
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: be like construction, electricians, ac anything. They can just come
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: they can be at the houses for out. No one
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: even notices them because there's like they're supposed to be there,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: They're supposed to be fixed up, and they could be
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: a serial killer.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: They could be a pool guy down the road, pool
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: guy in front of.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: The house, someone who does cable possibly cable systems, alarm systems,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: who supposedly passed a background chest supposedly.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: And then we have Sean Vincent Gillis, who we told
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: you about last episode, who was a quiet mechanic, but
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: once he got busted for his crimes, he just opened
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: up to the police and yeah, he.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Loved talking about his crimes. He was disgusting. He just
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: very matter of factly just told them everything he did
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: and almost almost a point of bragging about what he
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: had done to all.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: These scientific way. Yep, now we had all these task
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: force for them up. The FBI is getting involved. Newspapers
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: start calling Baton Rouge the serial killer capital of the country.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Which is hard to take from a place like Florida
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: or California, because they are really Yes, they got tons
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: of serial killers. Texas even has quite a few serial killers.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: I mean California had how many operating that one time?
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they were.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: The Nightstalker and the Golden State Killer.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: We'll see. The thing was about these is they were
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety mid nineteen nineties to early two thousands, like
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: that's there was like all those serial killers back in
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: the seventies and eighties, but we don't have a lot
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: in recent time, you know that are really active except
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: for here.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Well that's kind of rough now with all the DNA
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: catching everybody. Yeah, forty years ago, they got you now,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: So in nineteen ninety nine, a woman named Florida Edwards
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: is murdered and her remains are left in sight in
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: abandoned building. She's thirty six years old. She's been strangled
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: and beaten. But with all the murders around the town
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: and the Sarah killers her, they really had no suspects
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: for her. She was just kind of attributed to another
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: body being found at this time because they didn't know
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: in ninety nine nine, they didn't know about Derek Todd
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Lee or Sean Vincent Gillis. So she's just kind of
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: one of these ones where they didn't know where to
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: go in the investigation. And unfortunately, with as many murders
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: that were happening in this time, in that size of
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: a city. They also just don't have the resources to
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I mean there's limited funds, limited cops, limited investigators to
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: look into every one of these all right. Next up,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: in July two thousand and one, a second woman, Sylvia Cobb,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: who was also thirty six, is murdered in Baton Rouge.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: So she follows the same pattern as Florida Edwards. She strangled,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: she's beaten, but this time the killer does make a
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: mistake and he leaves behind a beer can at the scene.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: And this might this is gonna be his eventual undoing,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: because on that beer can there is a this dirty bastard,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: he left a greasy fingerprint that they were able to pull.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: They run it. However, nothing matches, but at least they
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: have a print now.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: No. Tember twenty sixth, two thousand and six, a man
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: is pulled over in Baton Rouge for a routine traffic violation. Kara,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it was speeding when it stops
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: on what they didn't say, but.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Apparently it was seriously serious enough for him to get.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Well pulled over. But whenever they after that, then something
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: else went down. We don't know what that is, whether
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: it was DWI or something else. He gets arrested during
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: that traffic stop, so those fingerprints get run. Kara, there's
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: a match. That print matches a print found on a
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: beer can in two thousand and one.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: This is why I think it might have been a DBI,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: because he was obviously drinking whenever he murdered someone, and
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: he was driving there, So I'm guessing his he likes
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: to partake as Mania did back in that.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Day, and I'm over had an open container up there
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: in the front drinking, does a breath, lies or probably
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: gets booked, That's what I'm guessing. None of the new
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: stories I read said anything about no why he was
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: actually arrested during the stop. The dectives bring him in
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: and according to the police, he denies that he ever
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: knew Selvia Cobb. He denies knowing Florida Edwards.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because even though they had apparently him this beer can,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: they can't explain that. Anybody can explain away that beer
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: can be there. You can literally throw it out the wind,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: throw it out the window, I mean, just because it's
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: near her body. So without any more evidence, they're not
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: going to be able to keep him on the murders
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: or anything like that.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I as a non attorney, could get him off on that.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: And yeah it's I mean, let's be honest, it's just
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: a beer can laying near the scene, crime scene or whatever.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: It really could he could really not be done. I
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: mean we know he did it, or we know he
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: did it, but yeah, it could just be litter. Because
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: today I was driving home and this fucker knew he
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: was like just by the way he was driving. He
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: was driving like real aggressive and stuff, and then he
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: threw his gatoried bottle out, just threw it out, just
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: litter like that.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: It's mild as it is.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: There's trash everywhere, and it's flat, everything collects and everything.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Let's not make it any worse. Maybe he's just like
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: if it.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Just wind hare just takes everything and pushes it somewhere else.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Yes, in our front like flower bed, there's always random
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: trash from Yeah it's it's.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Fast food, wrappers, cups, you name it.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: So with no way to keep Jeffrey guillory or even
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: if he, I mean, they're probably questioning themselves is he
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: even the guy that we're looking for? The case stalls
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: out again. Jeffrey goes back to his normal life, and
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: everyone's just really focused on Derek Todd Lee because this
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: is about the right after the time Derek Todd Lee's
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: case is going on his trial and everything. They've discovered
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: that they had the second uh serial killer they identified,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: and so at this point they're probably thinking, maybe these
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: other victims just are attributed to them, and this guy's
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: just happened to be bad luck and have his beer
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: can show up near a dead body.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: On December twenty ninth, two thousand and seven, in Lafayette, Louisiana.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Which we are familiar with.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, and I'm familiar with this area. I didn't know
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: what happened. I didn't realize this had happened at that
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: area at this time. I don't think I was living
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: on that side of town at this time. Anyway, A
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: woman by the name of Johnny Martinez steps off a
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: city bus at about six o'clock in the evening after
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: finishing a work shift. She starts down a wooded trail
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: that's near the walmart, which I assume is the one,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: the old one on the throughway.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: That's now closed.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: It's now closed.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Yes, they closed that one down. Yes, movie, Yes, Because
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: if I recall, I do recall there is a bus
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: stop right there by that one. You know there's a
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: bus stop though in front of the one off of
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Pinhook Pinhook two? Would that be more likely? Is there
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: wooded area over there?
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: I got some, I got some like little wooden, but.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's more of an open space. One
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: on the throughway does have more opportunities. I feel like
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: for someone to do something like this.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the one off Ambassador Caffrey. But anyway,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: we digress, we digress. I would have to look it
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: up and find out. I'm sure if I would read
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: a story, I could tell you which one it was.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: If anybody even cared so he a man approaches her
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: ask her for bus fare. She said, she reached into
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: her purse to get some change out, and in that
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: half second that she looked down, he punches her.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: This is why you're not nice to anybody. Everybody, Okay, stop,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: just just walk away, Just just go tell them go
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: fuck off and then walk off. That's what you do.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Don't be nice, take him in the balls and leave. No.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: No, that's like the thing that those those girls say
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: on that back when. I don't know if it's still real.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it's still real popular. I used to listen
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: to it way way back, and then my favorite murder
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: or whatever they say. They used to say. Pepper Spray
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: first apologized later, so, yeah, stop being nice to everybody.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: We got to stop being nice, all right. It's just
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: the way of the world these days.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Yes, because she was nice to him, she was gonna
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: give us some bus fare. He punches her in the face.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: He starts dragging her into the woods. She starts fighting back,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: and this is whenever she realizes he's bigger. He overpowers her.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: He punched her real hard and so hard, yeah.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: That her eye is actually swelling.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Shut, so she can't even see out of one and
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: she just sees the riding on the wall of where
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: this is headed. So her survival instincts kick in and
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: she decides to just go limp and so he can
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: think that he's overpowered her. She's gone unconscious and he
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: can he I guess was his plan was to kill her.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: So once he thinks that she's dead, he takes off
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: with her purse and everything and leaves her in the woods.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: But she is. She's alive because she pretended. So she
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: is taken to the hospital where after a couple of days,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: she's she remembers everything. She's like, let me talk. I
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: got someone. She was in a show. I'm trying to
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: remember what show it was I watched, but it was
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: she was so funny. Anyways, She's like, I got some
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: things to say. So she talks to so she's she's
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: in this episode. I'll have to figure I'll put in
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: the in the show notes. But she's so funny. She's
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: sitting there. She said, yeah, I saw him. So she's
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: explaining him to the cops of what he looked like
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: or whatever. She said, he had these droopy cheeks, like
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: droopy dog, old dear dog.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: I remember droop dog, Like you're the like from Yeah.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: So she so she explains him as like a cartoon
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: character with his droopy face. So she said she remembered everything.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: But because of this, so the big break comes from
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: her stolen ATM card though, so someone's using it. Police
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: are able to pull a still photo from a Baton
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Rooge ATM camera and show it to her, and she said,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: that is that motherfucking DROOPI dog. I'm gonna go down.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I don't want you to be like she was fat
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: or she looked like droopy dog.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: She was balding, was balding.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: She was trying to speak to me and span.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Three words though in dindo.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: A Espanol. Yeah. Anyways, so a detective, so she identifies him,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: and a detective recognized his face from an old file,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: and so everything's coming back that it's Jeffrey Lee Guillery.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: So nine days after the attack, Johnny picks him out
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: of a photo lineup, which you know I did that
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Stot tell that story someday.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Yes, And so she is like, just like me, similar
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: to me, an American hero shoplifter, No, a shoplifters, armed robberies.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: They could have shot somebody.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, it was an empty store.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: No it wasn't empty. No it wasn't empty.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: They held up the Yes, they had held up.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: This had been going on. They started in Fort Worth
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: and they'd been working their way over I don't know
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: how many days or weeks, and they'd been holding people
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: up at gunpoint. They went to like it's like a
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: federal crime what they did. This wasn't like small potato stew.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: This was a situation. So what you're saying is you're
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: in danger in myself, and yes, right now, by explaining
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: all this because they're probably.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: They're probably already out anyway. So she was like one
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: hundred percent certain this is droopy Dog that attacked me.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: So yeah, this is a major break obviously in the case.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: So now we have her identifying him, and then we
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: have this fingerprint. Remember from five years earlier that that
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: alone wouldn't put him in jail, but now we've got
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: two things.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Now with this instance, they picked him up, they were
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: able to get his DNA, put it in the system,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: and once his DNA was in the system, everything starts
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: moving quickly. The crime rat lab runs, you can't even talk.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: The crime lab runs like droopy dog old evidence and
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: gets two hits, one for Florida Edwards in nineteen ninety
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: nine and one for Renee Newman in two thousand and two.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: On December sixteenth, two thousand and nine, Gaillery is arrested
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: and charged with three counts of murder. He's interrogated for
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: five hours Kara and he denies everything. He said, I
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: didn't do.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: It, and two thousands the dog said I didn't.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't do it.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Now I can how it does droopy dog sound?
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Oh? He sounds old Drew by Doe like that.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I was just thinking, I was just recalling how the
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: lady how Johnny Johnny Martinez said it on the thing
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: droopy Dog.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: In twenty ten, Kara he is convicted for the Lafayette
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: attack on Johnny Martinez. He sentenced to fifty years for that.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Well, thank god, because sometimes you know those things where
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: they don't kill him and they're like, oh, well, you
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: didn't really get it all the way, even though you've tried.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Really hard, tried to kill her, but you couldn't see.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: So we'll just give you.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Five years probation, go try it again.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: So that's a good that's a good sentence for that
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: fifty years. I think that's awesome.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: The attempted murder. That same year, prosecutors do in Diet
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: him for Renee Newman's murder because I'm guessing that they
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: charged this one first because they had the most standalone evidence,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: the most physical evidence that they could directly tie Jeffrey
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: get at this point with no circ not much circumstantial.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: A lot of it was physical stuff.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: That tied him to it, Yes, DNA and things like that,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: because at this point he's already in prison for fifty years.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: They got him for that so he ain't getting out,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: and so they just well, I mean, he could, but
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: at this point they even even with one more murder,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: if they got one murder conviction, the best one, even
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: they couldn't get him for all of the ones that
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: he did, then he's going to be in prison for
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: the rest of his life, which is the goal.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, And now, in September twenty eleven, a jury hears
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: all this evidence, including Jeffrey Gillery's statements, and they deliberate
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: for less than an hour before convicting him. That December,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: a judge sentences Guillery to life in prison without parole. Yeah.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: So he was never tried for the Sylvia Cobb or
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Florida Edwards murders because there just wasn't enough of that
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: DNA evidence to tie to it. Although they in the
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: investigator's eyes, it's that he did it. They know, yeah,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: they know he did it. Yes, And apparently there are
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: from that time frame over that decade, there's still ten
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: unsolved murders of women in that time so there could
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: have been a fourth stew We don't know these none
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: of them were tied to any of them, in which
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: at this point I feel like they would have just
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: already admitted to killing them if they did, especially old
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Gilli because he just loved talking about it. But what
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, what does Derek Todd Lee have to lose
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: at this point or this? Uh? Oh yeah, he's dead,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: so he had yes or gillery at this point. So yeah,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: there could be another one out there. It could be four.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be crazy if they found another one and
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: he had moved to a different place like Florida. You know,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I'm tired of all these men killing women. You know,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: where's it? We need an Aileen Waros back. Why are
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: they Why they got to put her? Why they gotta
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: put her down?
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: All these men just sit on death row forever? And
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: then for some reason, Eileen, we got to fast track that,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't understand she was just doing.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Uh, we need to do a Did we do a
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: deep dive into that? We didn't cover hers? Did we?
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: We just talked about it? When did we talk? We
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: must have talked about that on Shoot the Poop? We didn't. Actually, no,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: we did we cover that? No?
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: We didn't know?
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: We didn't. We should we should cover Eileen Warners because
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: she's you know, heroes. He Oh, we talked about because
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I wanted to go to that bar where she said,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: she wrote Eileen Warnos was here and we missed it.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: It was over there by Daytona or whatever. Yeah, anyways,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: do you have a yeall need Jesus?
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Of course I do.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, I think I was talking to you about Eileen
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Warnos and how wrong it was what they did to her.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Because the guy that she said, the first guy that
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: she said tried to rape her or whatever he was allowed.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: He apparently had been in the oh yes, that was it,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: and the prosecutor knew this. He had been in a
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: mental institution back like twenty years before for the exact thing,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: like trying to sexually assault women. And he'd been institutionalized
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: for a while. And he even said, if you let
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: me back out, I'm gonna do this again. And she
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: told she told them he tried to rape me or whatever,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: and nobody believed her, and she said, I killed him.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: You know. Anyways, we should definitely do Eileen Warnos. I
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: think that would be a good one. It happened Florida.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: You think, yeah, all.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Right, do you have your y'all need Jesus of course? Okay, Stuart,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: you just looked it up. I was covering for you
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: with the Eiland Warno stuff. Okay, all right, go ahead one.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: You don't have one. Oh my god, I thought you
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: had it. Lord, I should have saved my books. Talking
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: about my books right now, Well, let me think about
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: what else I'm talking about. Oh, we're trying to use up.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: So if you follow me on the social media, is
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: we are trying to use up all of our groceries
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: in the house. So I'm getting real inventive with the meals.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: And let me tell you what I've come up with.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Some really good stuff. Though thing we had tonight. The
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: uh I pronounced it, I've said positive faggiol. I'm surprised
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't get it flagged. It's it's a fagio. I
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: think you can call it fajoli or or fuzzoole or
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: something like that if you in the American way, or
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: whatever you say it. Anyways, it basically means posten beans.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: And so I made that today in the crock pot.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: And then I made this delicious bread. It was like
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: a no knee bread. So you just had to mix
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: it up in the morning, you put it in the
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: fridge and when you get home you just throw it
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: in a hot Dutch oven and bake it for like
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: forty five minutes. It was extremely good. Something else once
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: she's trying to frantically find his y'all need Jesus over
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: there is if you this is not this is something
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: I uh not like a sponsored thing that I'm just
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: trying to slip in on you guys. Those ew I've
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: been there, those bricks. I have to say, if you
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: have a problem, I gotten to where I've gotten like
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: doom scrolling and stuff like that, and so I got
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: me one of them bricks. And so what you do
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: is you have this little brick, and so you can
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: set it for different schedules. So basically I only have
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: it available. I locked myself out of social media for
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: most of the day, and so I only have it
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: open to like record my little dinner videos or something
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: like that. But you have to physically go tap this
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: brick that you can put wherever and unlock it so
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: you can actually see your social media or whatever. But anyways,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: it's really helped. So as soon as I'm done, I
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: always just brick my phone and then if I want
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: to go use it stops the mindless scroll links. So
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: because you know, I'll just pick up my phone be
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: like automatically, just be like, oh, what's going on over
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: here on Instagram or TikTok or whatever, And the next
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: thing you know, they've got me. And I'm at midnight.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I'm like going through reels, like laughing and then crying
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: and then yes, so, anyways, did you find it?
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I found one, but I don't remember if we'd done it.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Sounds like, okay, we'll just do it. It's late. We
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: got to go.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Residents, Now, this sounds like something we did. Thank redo it.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, let's just read. We don't have any more time.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: I can't think of anything else to say.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Residents have been sentenced in a bizarre insurance fraud scheme,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: which prosecutor say involve them staging fake attacks on high
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: end cars.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: No, we haven't done this one.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: You don't think.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: No, we haven't done this one. Not Florida, not Florida.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Three southern California residents. It all stems from a claim
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: the suspects filed with their insurance companies saying a bear
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: got into their car a twenty ten Rolls Royce ghost
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: at Lake Arrowhead. I've been there, not in a Rolls
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Royce Ghost but Lake Arrowhead on January twenty eighth, twenty
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: twenty four, and damage inside with scratches. The California Department
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: of Insurance said the suspects provided a video to the
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: company which showed the bear in the car. An investigation
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: into the claim dubbed operation bear Claw took a close
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: should do that motion? Because in boot camp, whenever they
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: were learning drill close order to drill with your weapon,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: you'd bring it up and they'd say bear claw, bear claw.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: That was the bear claw.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Position, doing sort of motion where he grabs his elbow.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Good you guys, because you guys can't see.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, anybody that's ever been in the Marine Corps boot
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: camp knows bear claw.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'm sure that one person knows that.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: They took a closer look at the video and they
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: found that the bear was actually a person in a
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: bear costume. The insurance department said.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Wait, maybe we did do this. I kind of remember this, That's.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: What I got halfway through reading it. But then you
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: were like, no, dude. Investigators then took the video to
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: biologists with the California Department of Fishing Wildlife to look
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: also look at the video. The biologist said it was
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: clearly a human in a bear suit. Investigators uncovered two
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: other fraudulent claims submitted to different insurance companies regarding the
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: same incident. On Thursday. I'm gonna f this name up
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: at al Fia Zuckerman, aged thirty nine, a Valley Village,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Reuben tamra Zian of Glendale, and they murdered Adukian thirty
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: two of Glendale, were sentenced to one hundred and eighty
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: days in jail in order to pay restitution. Fourth suspect,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Ara rat Age thirty nine, Glendale, still has a penion case.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: They hit the insurance company Kara for one hundred forty
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: one thirty nine. Oh my god, what their fake bearst's
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: claw claw?
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Oh my god? All right, well that's what we have.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't feel like maybe you didn't
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: do this one, because I feel like I would have
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: remembered you going bear claw over and over again.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Well I don't remember all these names.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: No, I don't remember. Maybe you just told me about
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: it or something and we never did it. Because I
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: don't remember, I feel like you would have said the
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: same thing bear claw over and over again and done
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: that motion and I would be like Operation Claw. I
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: need to leave this man anyways, please for the love
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: of it. All right, so that is our case for
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: this week. We were done. We have wrapped up the
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: serial killers. So if you didn't like this, I'm sorry,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: but it's over now, Okay, we'll go back to our one.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: I was say about doing something way back in the day.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: That I do.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Relations. Oh, it's over, it's over.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Anyways, I was saying about doing one like an older one,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: because I started thinking about the X Men of New Orleans.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: But we already cut. We already did that one. We
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: did that one. So I say about looking at another
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: case from I like looking at the ones from way
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: back in the day, like in the fifties and stuff.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: So anyways, all right, well.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Ott girl from Alabama that we just covered not too
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: long ago, which one she was the serial she was
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: poisoning her? How was that girl's name? Over?
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: I don't remember, you're just looking at me. I don't remember.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: We covered the case.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, oh, she tried to she killed her husband, tried
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: to kill her son.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah with arsenic or
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, but it wasn't like that long ago.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: I don't think I want to say it was back
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: on the sixties or seventies.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Oh anyways, okay, well, okay, all right, I gotta go,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: I gotta go.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: I gotta go to work Saturday.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Some of us have to work around here. All right.
• 44:25
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• 44:27
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• 44:33
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• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Bye Stu, Bye Stu.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Tell't you know it's bad.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: To be SUPERSTI shot my napping else it's working.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: It's sick. This word can