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10 Hopes for Pokemon Winds & Waves · Hidden Power: A Pokemon Podcast

• 0:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Welcome back to Hidden Power.
• 0:01
  [UNKNOWN]: This is a Pokemon podcast.
• 0:03
  [UNKNOWN]: In today, we're going to be breaking down and discussing 10 specific gameplay features that we want to see the most in Pokemon wins and wins.
• 0:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, these games are positioned to be transformational for this 30 year old series.
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  [UNKNOWN]: But when these games drop in 2027, are they going to deliver?
• 0:19
  [UNKNOWN]: And what do these set of games specifically need to be considered great?
• 0:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Listen, we get a lot to talk about.
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• 0:29
  [UNKNOWN]: And let us know your wishes for Pokemon wins and waves in the comments below.
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  [UNKNOWN]: If you don't know, this is the home of Pokemon discussion.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Let's get into it.
• 0:38
  [UNKNOWN]: My name is Dusty Go Go.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I'm here with Hoops and Hip Hop.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Hello.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And so a silver art was a...
• 0:44
  [UNKNOWN]: No one cares about us.
• 0:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's start the list.
• 0:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's start with the list.
• 0:49
  [UNKNOWN]: This is our brand new Generation 10 game on the Switch 2.
• 0:53
  [UNKNOWN]: It's going to be beefy, it's going to be powerful.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It's a new potential.
• 0:59
  [UNKNOWN]: The sky is the limit quite literally.
• 1:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Hoops, what do you want to see in this brand new Pokemon game?
• 1:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, so the first thing for me that I specifically want out of these games are for the final starter evolutions to actually be really good.
• 1:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, okay, look, give me a more specific.
• 1:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I will, I will.
• 1:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, for me personally, the last final starter evolution that we've gotten that I thought was actually really good and was like worthy of the standard of a final starter ego.
• 1:35
  [UNKNOWN]: is deciduai.
• 1:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Ever since then, we have got stuff that's either in my opinion bad or it's just kind of like so, so.
• 1:45
  [UNKNOWN]: And that's been 10 years.
• 1:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I've been waiting for another great starter Pokemon for 10 years and I just have not gotten it really for the most part other than deciduai.
• 1:55
  [UNKNOWN]: So, I just want like
• 1:58
  [UNKNOWN]: One out of three, maybe two out of three, like I'm not asking for anything crazy, just something that I can look at and be like, whoa, that was worth the weight.
• 2:07
  [UNKNOWN]: That was worth the training, that was worth, that was worth the anticipation.
• 2:12
  [UNKNOWN]: That's all I want.
• 2:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I just want something really cool and just something that I can get excited about.
• 2:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Listen, I want to hear what Sol has to say, but don't you think it's a little subjective?
• 2:24
  [UNKNOWN]: For sure.
• 2:26
  [UNKNOWN]: No, it's totally subjective.
• 2:27
  [UNKNOWN]: It is subjective.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying that that's a fact.
• 2:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm just saying, okay, it's been a drought in terms of good starters.
• 2:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I think there's been final evolutions anyway, yeah, I think I think there has been a new philosophy applied to the final designs of a lot of the starters, which doesn't vote well for whoops is right here.
• 2:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like I think the term job mon maybe started in generation
• 2:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Seven, maybe six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six, six,
• 3:15
  [UNKNOWN]: There have been ones that I liked, yeah, I like chestnut, right?
• 3:19
  [UNKNOWN]: There's there's certain, yeah, there's other certain stages that I've appreciated.
• 3:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I like linten, I don't like what it evolves into, and I like roul it, and I don't really care for a decision why that much.
• 3:27
  [UNKNOWN]: And poplios, okay, and I like the grooky line, but it's not perfect.
• 3:31
  [UNKNOWN]: And then I like skeletoners, but together, and I think maybe this is what Hoops is saying, all together,
• 3:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Like the the starter trio.
• 3:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think it's been cohesive or I'll say this.
• 3:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think the starter trio has has has a I don't think the starter trio has like Felt.
• 3:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 3:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I just doesn't fill my cup.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It doesn't it doesn't it doesn't it don't feel like those those beastly monsters I think about the box art for fire up leaf green and I'm like that's a that's those are starter Pokemon new new new t-shirt idea
• 4:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there's a cup with with the gentend starters and it says fill my cup.
• 4:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's good to have a producer.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Can you can you take care of that?
• 4:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Also go check out shop dot hidden power podcast.com for other merch members to get 10 questions off.
• 4:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Just saying that.
• 4:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I just want to say that.
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  [UNKNOWN]: What do you think hoops?
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  [UNKNOWN]: So sorry.
• 4:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I I really.
• 4:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm surprised that Hoops actually, like, has it been that long since you've not had one that you loved or like liked because for me, I really didn't like the Gen 9 starters and we're talking about the final stages.
• 4:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I really didn't like the final stage starters of the Gen 9.
• 4:49
  [UNKNOWN]: starters and I am longing for another good starter like what you're talking about but it's only been one generation for me I can't imagine like waiting all the way since gen 7 I'd be losing my mind.
• 5:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, so I will solve break it down for you.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So the situation I love, the situation is great.
• 5:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't really, I don't like incinerar, I don't really like pre-marina and I don't really, yeah, I don't really like any of the
• 5:18
  [UNKNOWN]: until he almost the one that I got first and it was just disappointing and like since then it's like there's some things I can like see that I kind of like about it but overall it's just disappointing and then Cinderella's same thing, Rilibume is like I don't hate it but I don't really like it and then for the Jedi Ninestarders um
• 5:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Mioscarada, not a fan.
• 5:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Quackable, not a fan.
• 5:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Skeleterge is solid, but it's only solid.
• 5:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, I kind of think that I want something that I'm like, yes, that's so cool.
• 5:52
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think that I just get excited about.
• 5:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I love Skeleters for being an alligator or Crocodile, but I'm like, I do kind of, here's the thing.
• 6:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I do kind of wish Crocodile, not Crocodile, Skeleters was a little bit more like a blast,
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  [UNKNOWN]: You know?
• 6:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes.
• 6:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, I love Skeleters, but also it's a crocodile.
• 6:14
  [UNKNOWN]: What if it?
• 6:15
  [UNKNOWN]: What if it?
• 6:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't even know, because it's like, this is where my mind breaks and I'm like, okay, well, aren't I just asking for an incineror?
• 6:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, what if a cat had biceps?
• 6:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Isn't that what I'm saying with scalators right now?
• 6:28
  [UNKNOWN]: No, that's not actually what I want.
• 6:30
  [UNKNOWN]: It's one of the worst concepts for a Pokemon.
• 6:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm so sorry.
• 6:33
  [UNKNOWN]: What if a cat had biceps?
• 6:35
  [UNKNOWN]: It's insane.
• 6:36
  [UNKNOWN]: It's insane.
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  [UNKNOWN]: People like it.
• 6:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'll say this.
• 6:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, go.
• 6:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, no, I was just gonna say the main thing is like, for me, every single starter trio, there's always one
• 6:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I really like that one.
• 6:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, at least just really like maybe not love love.
• 6:52
  [UNKNOWN]: There's some that I'm like, I don't love that.
• 6:54
  [UNKNOWN]: But Jen nine was the first time where I was like, I don't actually like any, I have no starter.
• 7:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Like none of them are my guy.
• 7:03
  [UNKNOWN]: No, you like escalators.
• 7:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I like it, but we had conversations about this.
• 7:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I like it a little, but you're right over time.
• 7:12
  [UNKNOWN]: It's gotten worse and worse, and I picked away Coco.
• 7:15
  [UNKNOWN]: But at the beginning, I was just like, yeah, it's colorage is all right.
• 7:17
  [UNKNOWN]: He's cool, but it's gotten worse.
• 7:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like the point being to bring this back to Gen 10 is like, I...
• 7:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I know that one of them is going to be my guy.
• 7:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I'm pretty sure that one of them is going to turn out.
• 7:30
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 7:31
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, and I'm just, I agree with who so that's what I want from Gentin.
• 7:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I want one of them to be like a really good starter that I love.
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  [UNKNOWN]: At least one, I'm always just like one.
• 7:40
  [UNKNOWN]: If I get two, that's great.
• 7:42
  [UNKNOWN]: If I get three, that's a miracle.
• 7:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I don't think I've ever just liked all three starters.
• 7:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Like equal amount.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So.
• 7:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, that's a bummer.
• 7:50
  [UNKNOWN]: And what are you?
• 7:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
• 7:52
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a kind of an interesting thing too because
• 7:58
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like, while, for me, the final evolutions have been just like kind of disappointing the first stages.
• 8:07
  [UNKNOWN]: It's always like, it's always like they get you, they get you excited and then they let you down because the first stages are always stages.
• 8:13
  [UNKNOWN]: They're literally always perfect.
• 8:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Always good.
• 8:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Because like, again, I don't like in Cinerore, but Litton is awesome.
• 8:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Litton is amazing.
• 8:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't even like I'm a little bit to catch.
• 8:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't even like that in living is like a top is an S tier starter Yeah, and then and then a Skeleter's like I said it's just like okay, it's decent But foicoko is literally like an all-time great starter for me first Yeah, like it's like it's up there like it's giving suck up three at least.
• 8:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's so good
• 8:44
  [UNKNOWN]: So it's like I just want them to like I just want them to land the plane just land the plane Yeah, and I say something controversial.
• 8:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I actually don't mind by pedal starters.
• 8:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't mind Oh, I do can one of the best set tile one of the best
• 9:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 9:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Typhlotion, for alligator.
• 9:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Charizard, Blastoise, and Polyon.
• 9:06
  [UNKNOWN]: They're all great.
• 9:07
  [UNKNOWN]: These are all great, we talked about it.
• 9:08
  [UNKNOWN]: We've talked about it.
• 9:09
  [UNKNOWN]: We've talked about it on the podcast that Hoops has said multiple times that Skeletorge, I think, looks better by Petal.
• 9:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I think literally, but it does, yeah.
• 9:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I think literally everyone wanted it to be on all fours and I think a lot of people like it because it is, but I think it would have been better on two.
• 9:24
  [UNKNOWN]: So I agree with you, I think it is a hot take.
• 9:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I think from three of us, but I don't mind.
• 9:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, Pombon is a little hard because Pombon is like literally that would be in Cinerore 2.0 if it stands up it really it'll be Okidogi But like I think but you know you're right in Cinerore 2.0, but the key distinction there is bipedal is not the issue at all because of like literally there's a plethora of great bipedal starters
• 9:52
  [UNKNOWN]: The issue is the job-mon humanoid.
• 9:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes.
• 9:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 9:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Stay away from that.
• 9:59
  [UNKNOWN]: And you just said so that maybe there's a different philosophy and creating starters that they have.
• 10:07
  [UNKNOWN]: And I would just like to ask why.
• 10:10
  [UNKNOWN]: You didn't you didn't you didn't you didn't create the biggest media franchise of all time with job Mon Yes, you created it with the monster starters.
• 10:20
  [UNKNOWN]: So do what got you there.
• 10:22
  [UNKNOWN]: It's yeah We haven't changed, but the kids have changed.
• 10:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Whoops.
• 10:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that's what it the boils down to it's like some people like it I guess the kids like ready to start shouting like get off my own get off my own You you you like
• 10:41
  [UNKNOWN]: So good.
• 10:42
  [UNKNOWN]: So good.
• 10:43
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 10:43
  [UNKNOWN]: So there's a lot of things that I want in Pokemon wins and waves, but there's also a lot of things that I want in the new Pokemon 30th anniversary collectors set.
• 10:53
  [UNKNOWN]: We got a new we got we got a 10 right here given to us by our sponsor awesome CCG.
• 10:59
  [UNKNOWN]: They make this episode of this podcast possible.
• 11:03
  [UNKNOWN]: It's my local card shop.
• 11:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll tell you more about them later.
• 11:06
  [UNKNOWN]: But
• 11:06
  [UNKNOWN]: This 30th anniversary set is so crazy.
• 11:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Look at, I got this giant poster.
• 11:10
  [UNKNOWN]: We picked this up on another episode of the podcast.
• 11:13
  [UNKNOWN]: There are so many exclusive cards, throwback cards, a card's reprints that you can get in the set.
• 11:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Oops, I'm sorry, there's no, there's no pole dance or cackling on for us to pull today But there is a there's a there's a shiny there's a shiny there's a luggie a card There's a shiny set-laby there's a sneezele tyrant guitar Metagross Cizor all the boys are there.
• 11:39
  [UNKNOWN]: So far from this collector set.
• 11:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm just I'm trying to we've opened a lot of these now So I I just want people to know like what is actually there is to pull we get a bunch of Pikachu's But I did get the chunky too
• 11:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I've got the chunky two if you can see that.
• 11:52
  [UNKNOWN]: And I also got a, like a, it's a generation for Ookesy card.
• 11:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Listen, I'll be real Ookesy's.
• 11:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me know in the comments if Ookesy's one of your favorite Pokemon.
• 12:01
  [UNKNOWN]: And this is not something I pulled.
• 12:03
  [UNKNOWN]: This is just like an old RICO card.
• 12:05
  [UNKNOWN]: You guys can't see this.
• 12:06
  [UNKNOWN]: This is an old Ryco card, they're amazing rare Ryco, and they reprinted this in this set with the gold... Oh, there you go.
• 12:14
  [UNKNOWN]: But I just had to, I just had to flex a little bit because I got the original, I think, Ryco's so cool.
• 12:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Anyways, so we got this, we got this booster box right here, not booster box.
• 12:22
  [UNKNOWN]: What is this called, a 10?
• 12:24
  [UNKNOWN]: 10.
• 12:25
  [UNKNOWN]: You want to know something cool about these 10?
• 12:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to crack it open, please.
• 12:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not super well-versed on like all the R-T-C-G product releases, but I do know these tins.
• 12:35
  [UNKNOWN]: There's like six of them or nine of them or something like that.
• 12:38
  [UNKNOWN]: And one of them has a... Oh, no, it has it right there.
• 12:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, I did.
• 12:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I was gonna bring this up.
• 12:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I didn't know you were gonna bring this up.
• 12:46
  [UNKNOWN]: This is missing no missing no can I get a little bit closer on this let's get a real zoom You guys look at that.
• 12:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, okay, so in this this tin has a has an art.
• 12:57
  [UNKNOWN]: There's an embryon There's a bunch there's a the dark type me out.
• 13:00
  [UNKNOWN]: There's a little unknown shadow hidden power podcast and in the scenery in the background in the city you can see a building
• 13:06
  [UNKNOWN]: But you know what it also looks like.
• 13:08
  [UNKNOWN]: It looks like missing those the glitch Pokemon from Gen 1 and this is the Do you think this is a real theory?
• 13:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you think this like makes sense?
• 13:15
  [UNKNOWN]: No, that's that is legit That is a hundred percent legit because before you before you like brought that super close to the camera I'm so glad that you knew about this.
• 13:23
  [UNKNOWN]: That's so I couldn't even tell that it was a Building it just looked like missing those graphic just slapped on to the
• 13:30
  [UNKNOWN]: to the box like that is 100% missing out and I'm like when I see stuff like this I'm like don't tell me that the 30th anniversary is bad yeah like if they're they're referencing a literal glitch for but are they like that that's the coolest thing ever they totally are
• 13:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the lights in the building are two random either.
• 13:51
  [UNKNOWN]: This is AI or it's a purposeful hand-to-hand.
• 13:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Like the lights in the building are two random farts and not be missing now.
• 13:58
  [UNKNOWN]: So, dude, I'm so glad that you knew about this.
• 14:00
  [UNKNOWN]: That's, that's, that, okay, great.
• 14:03
  [UNKNOWN]: The shop owner of the car shop, Jamie, you want to be to bring that up.
• 14:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I thought that was so cool.
• 14:08
  [UNKNOWN]: That's his little pet theory.
• 14:09
  [UNKNOWN]: The whole the whole the whole car shop is just like making fun of them.
• 14:13
  [UNKNOWN]: They're like you're insane But that's legit that is totally legit, but he brought it to me and you know I'll adopt the crazy theory or let's crack this puppy open what do we have?
• 14:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, and this is sick Okay, so we do get the arc in this tin we do have the art of the missing now Okay, so that's great.
• 14:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I can sleeve that up and keep this forever.
• 14:29
  [UNKNOWN]: That's actually great
• 14:31
  [UNKNOWN]: That's cool.
• 14:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, actually.
• 14:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, and I can see the holes.
• 14:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 14:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna have to do some more research.
• 14:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, and we have a sticker of this art as well.
• 14:39
  [UNKNOWN]: So I can slap that on a hard drive and what this is the magic right here.
• 14:43
  [UNKNOWN]: We got not one.
• 14:44
  [UNKNOWN]: We got two packs of the 30s anniversary.
• 14:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm taking way too much time with this.
• 14:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Here's the the code card.
• 14:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, I love these little.
• 14:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 14:53
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm looking for I'm looking for the Hesuyen Zorova.
• 14:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 14:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to want the man.
• 15:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I want you to celebrate, obviously, but yeah, I want the Zaroah.
• 15:04
  [UNKNOWN]: That's like, okay, one I forgets the preas.
• 15:06
  [UNKNOWN]: So that's my shit.
• 15:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, do we're starting off good with it?
• 15:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I didn't even know Cheroobie was in this shit.
• 15:10
  [UNKNOWN]: That's a good side.
• 15:11
  [UNKNOWN]: That's actually really good, bro.
• 15:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 15:13
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like that is a good side.
• 15:14
  [UNKNOWN]: We're gonna sleeve that puppy up this.
• 15:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, and we got Zapdos next.
• 15:19
  [UNKNOWN]: This is a pretty good set, so far.
• 15:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's see what else.
• 15:21
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 15:22
  [UNKNOWN]: We got a me out.
• 15:23
  [UNKNOWN]: We pulled that one.
• 15:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I think on the first, one of our first packs from here.
• 15:27
  [UNKNOWN]: We got Soguleo, is you're going to be a classic collection card.
• 15:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's see.
• 15:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, we got a Pikachu.
• 15:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Super shiny Pikachu and I don't have that one yet.
• 15:37
  [UNKNOWN]: And then we got the energy in the back.
• 15:40
  [UNKNOWN]: That's actually a, this one's got the flowers.
• 15:42
  [UNKNOWN]: This one's with the flowers in the back.
• 15:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm going to zoom in a little bit here.
• 15:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to show you guys all the Pikachu that I have.
• 15:48
  [UNKNOWN]: There's so many.
• 15:49
  [UNKNOWN]: There's in this set there are 30 Pikachu's and you get one per pack and like so far I have not got a single double and then look at look at that.
• 16:01
  [UNKNOWN]: The audio listeners are like what is happening?
• 16:04
  [UNKNOWN]: There's just sounds but I'm showing off you too.
• 16:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I even get the Ken Sugamori in but anyways in like it's open in like 10 in like 10 years there's gonna be uh there's gonna be like full collections of those and people
• 16:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I got the full collection.
• 16:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Give me, give me $10,000.
• 16:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna be like, I have the whole eight of the collection, eight, give me.
• 16:30
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I'm not gonna get any money from that.
• 16:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Hold me out.
• 16:34
  [UNKNOWN]: We got a lapress.
• 16:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Come on, let's get another collector's set.
• 16:38
  [UNKNOWN]: We got a bokey pad.
• 16:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Ooh, is this one of them?
• 16:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Ooh, I- Is this one of the Pikachu's?
• 16:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think so.
• 16:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not sure.
• 16:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Which one is this?
• 16:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to have to look at the map.
• 16:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I think if you look at your next card, it'll be another Pikachu.
• 16:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 16:55
  [UNKNOWN]: That's pretty sick.
• 16:56
  [UNKNOWN]: The Pikachu is usually at the back.
• 16:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 16:58
  [UNKNOWN]: We have not pulled an EX from this set yet.
• 17:00
  [UNKNOWN]: So that's a pretty big pickup.
• 17:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and there's two.
• 17:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, that's a beautiful card.
• 17:04
  [UNKNOWN]: That's a good one.
• 17:05
  [UNKNOWN]: This one needs to be full art.
• 17:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I think what I love about these Pikachu is that they are of the same quality.
• 17:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Look at that.
• 17:13
  [UNKNOWN]: As the full arts are now, but I'm a boomer and I think and I honestly love like the I like when the art is just in the little square.
• 17:21
  [UNKNOWN]: So that's stunning.
• 17:22
  [UNKNOWN]: That is stunning.
• 17:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Holy no, and we get fighting on the back.
• 17:26
  [UNKNOWN]: That's great.
• 17:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm the opposite.
• 17:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I love the full arts because the art is when I appreciate the most.
• 17:32
  [UNKNOWN]: But I'm with you in that there are so many regular basic cards that would be so beautiful as a fuller And that's what I like that is that's like you could fart you could frame that you could totally frame that and let me get the pop up Pikachu EX that was super sick.
• 17:47
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• 18:03
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• 18:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Well for fear of being here forever.
• 18:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I totally agree.
• 18:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I think I think what I think what we're looking for is just like a And here's the thing where we're fans.
• 18:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't really know how to
• 18:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the challenge is like, what like are we clear on what we actually want?
• 18:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think we all know it literally, the application of like what would make it so we love it.
• 18:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Like what is a good starter?
• 18:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's, I think it's subjective.
• 18:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's abstract.
• 18:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think we even know what the solution is, but we know what when we see it.
• 18:35
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think what I tend to look towards is like generation four, five, three, maybe even six.
• 18:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't even think,
• 18:44
  [UNKNOWN]: like Gen 5 and 6 have like the best starters of all time, but I do look at them and I feel like okay these are
• 18:51
  [UNKNOWN]: These are monsters still, even though they have, you know, I'm not like I look at the Gen 5 starters and I'm like, I like them.
• 18:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't love them.
• 18:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they're a little bit boring partially because of their type.
• 19:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And, but I still think they're like, these are good starters to be honest, even Generation 7.
• 19:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Even Gen I would say I would say honestly, anywhere from Gen 1 to Gen 6, I would take.
• 19:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Cause even Gen 6.
• 19:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, I really don't like Del Fox, but Grinja and Chestnut are awesome, and then the more you go back, the more it's like monstrous design and and the more like just like solid well rounded trios get that's kind of how I feel.
• 19:36
  [UNKNOWN]: It's the 30th anniversary, right?
• 19:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go back.
• 19:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's make Pombon and Brought and Gequat, like Monsters and Brought, you know?
• 19:46
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like my dream scenario is that Brought turns into...
• 19:52
  [UNKNOWN]: He turns into something like...
• 19:55
  [UNKNOWN]: either like bravery or blazing in.
• 19:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, if he goes more flying around different.
• 20:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, bravery, if he goes more fighting like like cast-awarey direction than blazing in.
• 20:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's good.
• 20:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Pombun.
• 20:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I basically want it to turn into Arcanine.
• 20:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Arcanine 2.0.
• 20:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Yep.
• 20:13
  [UNKNOWN]: They like that.
• 20:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Give it the fairy type.
• 20:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Make it majestic.
• 20:16
  [UNKNOWN]: When I was thinking about it being bipedal, it really was breaking my brain just now.
• 20:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Because I'm like, how do it's pause hands?
• 20:23
  [UNKNOWN]: How are they going to work?
• 20:24
  [UNKNOWN]: It's really going to be very.
• 20:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 20:27
  [UNKNOWN]: And pull from.
• 20:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I think I think Tom Bond, if we're comparing Tom Bond and Litten, Litten doesn't have a bunch of firsts.
• 20:35
  [UNKNOWN]: You can see each part of its body separately.
• 20:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Where Tom Bond, it's whole stick is that it's just like, it's a circle.
• 20:42
  [UNKNOWN]: It's got a main.
• 20:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Right, and I feel like what's what needs to happen.
• 20:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think it makes sense for a just stand-up.
• 20:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Right Yeah, I don't think it will.
• 20:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I really don't think it will.
• 20:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I really don't think it will.
• 20:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think it will.
• 20:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I really don't think it will.
• 20:49
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• 20:49
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• 20:50
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• 20:51
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• 20:51
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• 20:52
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• 20:52
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• 20:53
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• 20:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I really don't think it will.
• 20:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I really don't think it will.
• 20:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I really don't think it will.
• 20:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I really don't think it will.
• 20:56
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• 20:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I really don't think it will.
• 20:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I really don't think it will.
• 20:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I really don't think it will.
• 20:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I really don't think it will.
• 20:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I really don't think it will.
• 21:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I really don't think it will.
• 21:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I
• 21:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, no hoops and then finish up and then for Gekwa.
• 21:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm trying to look at like lizard Pokemon that I think would be good But I think the best comparison would just be septile probably just give me a septile.
• 21:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I want a septile or snivey.
• 21:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll take snivey fine Yeah, or serperear serperear.
• 21:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Serperear has this like regal element to it.
• 21:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I like septile.
• 21:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I do love septile, but I feel like
• 21:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like Gekwa with it's like confident, what would you call those like it's confident, kind of like cutting eyes, that actually matches snivey a lot more.
• 21:36
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm imagining snivey a Gekwa evolving into something similar to
• 21:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're
• 22:11
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean, yeah, but I think I think the bird starter Pokemon or are so you Conversely like appreciated because yeah
• 22:21
  [UNKNOWN]: because birds aren't monstrous birds, big birds, or just dinosaur, they're crazy, scary dinosaurs.
• 22:28
  [UNKNOWN]: So, and honestly, like, we've, this is our fifth bird starter.
• 22:35
  [UNKNOWN]: And I would say, wow, I'm trying to look at them all.
• 22:38
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't think a single one has missed.
• 22:40
  [UNKNOWN]: The situation is great.
• 22:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Blazing is great.
• 22:42
  [UNKNOWN]: And Polyon is awesome.
• 22:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 22:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Which is, they're all bipedal.
• 22:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Which one am I missing?
• 22:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Which one?
• 22:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, quackley.
• 22:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 22:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, quackley.
• 22:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay broke the broke the stream forgot about quack.
• 22:56
  [UNKNOWN]: It's even quackley still has quackley.
• 22:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Listen, the concept for quackley is still good.
• 23:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
• 23:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 23:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, the concept.
• 23:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I was saying it is good though.
• 23:04
  [UNKNOWN]: It's got a cool type.
• 23:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's because it's actually missed because that means that brought probably won't because when you said that all five haven't missed I was like, well, that means that maybe the last one might, you know, the next one might, we're, we're one step closer to one being a bad design.
• 23:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, this is all subjective.
• 23:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I love this.
• 23:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I will say, though, I'm encouraged.
• 23:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm encouraged by Browt versus Quaxley.
• 23:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Because Quaxley's not bad, but even like, when it was revealed, I thought it was kind of like a little weird looking, where's Browt?
• 23:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, let's go.
• 23:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, you can see that there's much of this.
• 23:43
  [UNKNOWN]: That they're going in.
• 23:44
  [UNKNOWN]: So, a little, you know?
• 23:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 23:47
  [UNKNOWN]: that's good.
• 23:49
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 23:50
  [UNKNOWN]: So you want to go next number two?
• 23:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Sure.
• 23:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's one that I probably said before, but after having ZA, I just really want them to like flesh out side quests.
• 24:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I would some kind of ZA side quest, but with like a little more depth would be really awesome, because I think ZA did a pretty good job, but like all they need to do is make them more
• 24:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Not important, what's the word, like, influential, you know, like they have an influence on the game like things that you do inside quest instead of just, oh, this was a fun little thing that you did, you know, I mean, I really hope we haven't had side quests really in the main core generation games other than the Blueberry Academy, which were like little fetch quests, you know, yeah.
• 24:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I think what we're desiring is for side quests and NPCs to feel intentionally written or well-written to make it feel like I want these NPCs to in these little stories right to feel just kind of like a handwritten and not like they're just like an afterthought for sure I guess that description is still kind of not clear enough I think I do look at like Zay like you said like as an example of of
• 25:07
  [UNKNOWN]: of like honestly like a pretty good attempt at side quests like a lot of the side quests are not they're not like significant in terms of like the reward.
• 25:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Some of them are, but they are they are memorable because of just inherently what the little side quest is and I think that's what the point of a side quest is.
• 25:27
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like, you don't do a side quest to get the ultimate sword that will help you slay the dragon and save the princess.
• 25:34
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like, it's a side quest.
• 25:36
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not important.
• 25:37
  [UNKNOWN]: But if you choose to pursue it, you want to be rewarded by like discovering a little charming thing that you find in the world and like making a memory, right?
• 25:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Those are the things that kind of like extend the gameplay and make it like all meaningful.
• 25:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I think a problem with like a lot of
• 25:53
  [UNKNOWN]: is we get the base game and the base experience and everything else, I mean, don't get me wrong, there's so many amazing things like hitting in music, you know, biomes in these worlds, right?
• 26:04
  [UNKNOWN]: There's so many great things, but a lot of the additional features feel kind of slapped on and disconnected.
• 26:11
  [UNKNOWN]: or just kind of like an afterthought.
• 26:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 26:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm trying to think of like a maybe a good example.
• 26:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know Scarlet and Violet, I think was like maybe the worst offender in this case where it's like there's nothing to really discover and you don't feel like engaged by anything.
• 26:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I think Z.A.
• 26:26
  [UNKNOWN]: is a really good example of Pokemon doing it right or maybe even like, you know, what are some good eggs?
• 26:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 26:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, in Z.A.
• 26:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I was saying like, there are some that are so memorable and that we're so like influential to the game and just a really fun little thing, but then there were others where it's like, hey, just battle me, you know, so more of the fun ones that mean something to you, then then like all of these ones that like you're in Scarland, violent and you're just picking up random items on the ground.
• 26:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like is this a side quest or is this just like like it's not fetch quest even it's even worse to the Yeah, fetch quest.
• 27:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like son and moon had a lot of like fetch quest.
• 27:06
  [UNKNOWN]: It was like It was there'd be there'd be like moments where it's like Go talk to this person and then you talk to them and they're like go bring them this thing And you're like okay, what did I do this what's the point of this?
• 27:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, if they had point a point that's what I'm really looking for is just something that you feel accomplished at the end, you know
• 27:28
  [UNKNOWN]: see I think I think there's room for sure.
• 27:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but I feel like there's room for even things where you don't really get anything at the end.
• 27:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I think those can also be charming, but the thing that you gain needs to be like, like an interesting line of dialogue, or you learn about a character, right?
• 27:45
  [UNKNOWN]: And it needs to be well thought out.
• 27:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes.
• 27:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 27:48
  [UNKNOWN]: So it's either like, yeah,
• 27:50
  [UNKNOWN]: So I agree with you.
• 27:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I guess I'm just trying to say like it doesn't need to be that like you get like a really powerful weapon That doesn't make a good side quest.
• 27:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 27:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 27:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because to me when I'm thinking about like side quest and video games The things that stand out of my mind.
• 28:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I couldn't name exactly what they are, but like I Remember them because it was like Something that I felt like I discovered that like I wasn't supposed to see that I'm being rewarded
• 28:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, inherently by discovering it, right?
• 28:16
  [UNKNOWN]: And it's like, that's the reward in itself.
• 28:19
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think when we talk about wins and waves being this massive biome, right?
• 28:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, it's like this giant world that we can explore and there's islands and there's all these things to discover.
• 28:29
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what I want.
• 28:30
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, I don't want just things to just just be slapped into the game haphazardly.
• 28:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Like everything was like expertly craft that are like put there for a reason by the developers, right?
• 28:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Right, right, absolutely.
• 28:45
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think we get that, I don't know why I didn't this took me so long to think about.
• 28:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I think Pocopia is an amazing example of this where like earlier in early in the game, you think it's just kind of like Pokemon are appearing.
• 28:58
  [UNKNOWN]: But then you start finding things and you're like, wow, that was.
• 29:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I just discovered this.
• 29:05
  [UNKNOWN]: That means, you know, and then as you keep playing, you're like, okay, well, what if I do this?
• 29:09
  [UNKNOWN]: And then you find out at works, or you find out, like, it's like, you're just rewarded by the explanation.
• 29:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Is maybe what I'm saying.
• 29:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's like a whole another topic, but that is connected because like in other, open world games, you explore and you find some NPC there and by exploring, you find them and you talk to them and you start a side quest.
• 29:33
  [UNKNOWN]: connective situation where like it rewards exploration.
• 29:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I would love for something more like in Scarlet and Violet, they did, um, you know, had like the journal entries.
• 29:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I would love like you just find journal entries around the time.
• 29:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Which, which Polkopia did, too?
• 29:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Journal entries
• 29:54
  [UNKNOWN]: little tiny one line of lore is very satisfactory, you know, like there's a satisfaction to like reading just a little piece of lore about Pokemon World that you didn't know before.
• 30:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know like yeah, but like it doesn't need to be like Lord drops implies like I don't know like I feel like that is almost even too much, at least for me I think what is I love the idea of the journal entries I actually forget quite often that we had journal entries in Scarlet and Violet I love that the journal entries in Pocopia are scattered throughout the game and there's a mixture of You know in those journal entries Lord drops and then also just context for the game
• 30:49
  [UNKNOWN]: But that's also technically a lower drop, when you learn about a character existing in that time period before the world burned in Pocochia, right?
• 30:58
  [UNKNOWN]: That technically is a lower drop, but it's not like, I guess what I'm saying is it doesn't need to be like, you know, and then the secret to toropagoce is power is actually this, right?
• 31:08
  [UNKNOWN]: It doesn't need to be like statements of fact.
• 31:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, dude, I love this.
• 31:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm pumped for Gen 2.
• 31:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Those are the things I love the most in these kinds of games.
• 31:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Or I guess I guess not in a Pokemon game because it hasn't really happened before.
• 31:24
  [UNKNOWN]: But in like open world games to like just find out more about the actual world.
• 31:29
  [UNKNOWN]: It's world building in the end, but like yeah.
• 31:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, we're going to find it.
• 31:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 31:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you're exploring to find it and that is a reward you get some like information about the world, you know, around.
• 31:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 31:42
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think that that's great.
• 31:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I also wanted to say that in Scarlett and Violet, they did have one really good side quest, which was because you were saying like you don't find like a hidden secret weapon that makes you beat the game or anything, but
• 31:53
  [UNKNOWN]: the the ruinous quartet the treasure treasures of ruin yeah sorry i've been speaking a different language a lot lately um but uh i'm in Italy right also um the uh the treasures of ruin like a side quest had was was pretty cool to like yeah something like that would be cool
• 32:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I think about these journal entries from like Skyrim and there's so many and I still remember like when I played this game a lot
• 32:26
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like, you know, on one hand, you can pick up a book and literally read the book.
• 32:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 32:35
  [UNKNOWN]: And it's not a lower drop.
• 32:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Like it's not like a shareable, notable, lower drop.
• 32:40
  [UNKNOWN]: But it is world building, right?
• 32:43
  [UNKNOWN]: And that's, I think, stuff like that to me is really cool.
• 32:46
  [UNKNOWN]: If we could find a, like, right, if we're going on this like island hopping adventure, what if you could find like a,
• 32:53
  [UNKNOWN]: like a pirate scroll or like a sailor, a sailor scroll or like a sailor map and there's like information on their original entry, a scribe of paper you read it and you learn about you know some traveler that was on that island at some point in the world, right?
• 33:11
  [UNKNOWN]: It doesn't really matter but it makes you actually believe in the in the world, right?
• 33:17
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think that's
• 33:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, be so full in a Pokemon game.
• 33:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I know I want to hear hoops as thoughts, but another one, like one of my favorite side quests that Pokemon has ever done is the, like, frost last one in Legends RCS.
• 33:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if you guys remember, but it had to do with like reading the books and like finding out what happens with this frost less.
• 33:39
  [UNKNOWN]: And then like you see the frost less.
• 33:41
  [UNKNOWN]: So it's, it's one of the better ones that Pokemon's done.
• 33:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't remember, but that's that's honestly sick.
• 33:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was it was an arseous.
• 33:49
  [UNKNOWN]: That's cool dude.
• 33:50
  [UNKNOWN]: You you find out like that the guy married the frost last year.
• 33:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Now I see why you guys like this.
• 34:01
  [UNKNOWN]: But it is one of the most intriguing ones.
• 34:03
  [UNKNOWN]: You're like, wait, what's going on with this front?
• 34:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and that's because it's really based off of the whole like, it's not you.
• 34:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I forget.
• 34:11
  [UNKNOWN]: No, no, no.
• 34:11
  [UNKNOWN]: See, I want to push back on us.
• 34:12
  [UNKNOWN]: That's not why that was enjoyable.
• 34:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Like in the moment, that's not you're not thinking about the reference of that's making.
• 34:18
  [UNKNOWN]: That's not why it's not.
• 34:19
  [UNKNOWN]: No, no, no.
• 34:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's enjoyable because it's it's based off of that, which is a story that has made people be enjoyed for a long time.
• 34:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 34:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's a story that people enjoy.
• 34:32
  [UNKNOWN]: So it's like, it's just the Pokemon version of it.
• 34:34
  [UNKNOWN]: The story itself is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is
• 34:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well that doesn't vote well.
• 34:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I hope they actually like I mean you can make they can make up new stories They should I they should 100% yeah, I'm replaying ZA right now and it's like I guess the side quest that I think about like even the ones where you don't really get anything The thing that I'm kind of getting out of is like I could just see like
• 34:54
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a stupid thing between Musharna and Flamigo, and it's like the NPCs, like, you know, oh, I'm starting a business and I'm trying to like suck the dreams out of Pokemon so they can sleep better.
• 35:08
  [UNKNOWN]: So I need your help using hypnosis and dreamy.
• 35:11
  [UNKNOWN]: And it took like two minutes to do, but it was cute and fun and nice to see these random Pokemon that I've probably never used in a game.
• 35:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, especially not in Z.A.
• 35:21
  [UNKNOWN]: in the overworld making like they're like little cutscenes, you know, yeah, um, and I think I got something at the end of it, but I guess about that's what I'm saying.
• 35:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Like it can even be a little bit the side quest can even be a little bit minor, but that maybe that's me bargaining, because now I'm taking a step back and I'm like, you know what side quests would also.
• 35:41
  [UNKNOWN]: count as like faction side quests in some of these other RPGs, right?
• 35:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And they can be more there can be like a grander story narrative, right?
• 35:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Between all of those little side quests that lead up to like a greater, a more significant, you know, plot point.
• 36:00
  [UNKNOWN]: It's still separate from the mainline story, but so that can be part of this as well.
• 36:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 36:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I guess I just want, I just want a few, it's the world building.
• 36:10
  [UNKNOWN]: That is actually what I want the most in these games.
• 36:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I would say just add on to that, that succinctly to put it succinctly, I would say a side quest system more like the Legends games is what I would love to see.
• 36:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Or side quests similar to the Legends games, so what I would love to see.
• 36:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 36:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I also think that like, I mean, I want like, to your guys' point, I do want stuff that's more like substantial and, uh, that kind of means a little more.
• 36:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I would love something like the journal entries as well.
• 36:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like that, that,
• 36:50
  [UNKNOWN]: They're probably going to put like a collectible of some kind in this game because like Scarlet Violet add like the Gimmigool coins.
• 36:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, just something that's like there's a million of them and something like this would be great where it's like you just get to learn about the region in some way where it's like you just find these little breadcrumbs all over the place.
• 37:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, so that would be awesome.
• 37:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go.
• 37:12
  [UNKNOWN]: And the other thing that is just kind of like speaking to Pokemon in general, but it would be great to see this in wins and waves is that like every Pokemon can be a side quest.
• 37:22
  [UNKNOWN]: So like you can make a story of some kind around every single Pokemon.
• 37:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Like they kind of did that in ZA where like one that comes to mind is you run into this baker and she's like really busy with her business.
• 37:35
  [UNKNOWN]: So she asks you if you can take her fight over a walk and you just take it for a walk.
• 37:40
  [UNKNOWN]: and it's like stupid and small, but it's like you get some time with a phyto, you know?
• 37:46
  [UNKNOWN]: It kind of like helps to build up the world.
• 37:48
  [UNKNOWN]: So stuff like that, I think, is cool.
• 37:50
  [UNKNOWN]: It's just like just like stuff that has a little bit of creativity versus like just battle me or just go get this thinger forever.
• 37:58
  [UNKNOWN]: the stormy cult.
• 38:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that you that one.
• 38:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't even know if I remember that one.
• 38:03
  [UNKNOWN]: That's that's I mean, there's something that you possibly haven't done to because I never did the Musharna one that you're talking about.
• 38:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I didn't do all of them for sure.
• 38:10
  [UNKNOWN]: They did so many in that game and a lot of them were just like, hey, battle me.
• 38:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey, go get this.
• 38:15
  [UNKNOWN]: But
• 38:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there's there's like a stormy worshiping the star.
• 38:20
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• 38:35
  [UNKNOWN]: You are going to not really be able to interact heavily in terms of putting them on your team or catching them or whatever like a lot of those you're going to miss because you're going to stick with the ones that you like the most and so most of them you're not going to have as much time with so stuff like this would give you time with more of these Pokemon and you see them and allow the game to advertise them to you.
• 38:58
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• 40:27
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I'm into it.
• 40:28
  [UNKNOWN]: This is good.
• 40:29
  [UNKNOWN]: So for number two, I put a side quests and world building.
• 40:33
  [UNKNOWN]: That's good.
• 40:33
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what I mean.
• 40:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Number three, this is my pick.
• 40:37
  [UNKNOWN]: And I was really thinking about our conversation last week about the world of the actual playable map and the world of generation 10.
• 40:46
  [UNKNOWN]: And I was thinking, if there's going to be all these diverse biomes, and we're going to be, you know,
• 40:51
  [UNKNOWN]: adventuring to all these unique islands and locations, underwater, maybe, you know, while soaring, I think something that we're missing pretty bad is new types of pokeballs.
• 41:04
  [UNKNOWN]: We've pretty much had the same in the mainline games, have had the same set of pokeballs since what generation four.
• 41:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Is that right?
• 41:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like that's I feel like that's right that we've had a couple new ones like with the old the the ultra or what is it the beast ball was added in gen 7 super niche right we've had legends and legends are seas yeah but those are in legends are sea is right and those and they kind of like rich they kind of remove those from yeah they're going with really sucks and so I guess yeah I guess
• 41:37
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, yeah, I don't know, in generation three and four, they started giving us all these new Pokeballs that were for, you know, to give you an advantage of catching Pokemon when it's nighttime, when it's when you're in caves, right?
• 41:49
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the dusk ball.
• 41:51
  [UNKNOWN]: You have the netball, right, which is kind of fitting.
• 41:53
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like the idea of Pokemon capturing bugs and insects, right?
• 41:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, you can catch bugs and water types with the netball.
• 42:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, there's things like the quickball, the timer ball, right?
• 42:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Which gives you an advantage against legendaries.
• 42:06
  [UNKNOWN]: 20 turns, right, to actually capture the Pokemon, their solutions that you can find in the world, in the Pokemon game, right, their solutions for challenges that you might, you know, discover along the way in your adventure.
• 42:22
  [UNKNOWN]: and I just feel like it's a little bit too narrow.
• 42:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the solutions in these Pokeballs that we've had that we have are just a little bit too narrow.
• 42:30
  [UNKNOWN]: We have like three Pokeballs, the lure ball, the netball, and the dive ball that all essentially just give you an advantage against capturing water types.
• 42:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think we need any more Pokemon or any more Pokemon, any new Pokeballs for water type Pokemon, but what about the volcanoes, right?
• 42:46
  [UNKNOWN]: What about like craggy mountainous volcanoes?
• 42:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Can we have a specific Pokeball for that kind of terrain?
• 42:52
  [UNKNOWN]: What if we're up in the air, right?
• 42:53
  [UNKNOWN]: There's, I don't know if these are even rumors, but people, you know, I've been thinking if we can go underwater with waves, what about winds?
• 43:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Can we go, can we can we shore in the sky?
• 43:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Can we've been
• 43:08
  [UNKNOWN]: And work battles.
• 43:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe.
• 43:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 43:10
  [UNKNOWN]: That's kind of like one of those.
• 43:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so so like I feel like it would be awesome to get a like a jet ball, but like a modern jet ball.
• 43:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I think there's a So many so many cool pokeballs that we get new types of pokeballs that we could see in generation 10.
• 43:24
  [UNKNOWN]: That's my pitch
• 43:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's good.
• 43:28
  [UNKNOWN]: It's funny because you mentioned last week's episode.
• 43:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I think we talked about some last week's episode as well, but like swimming underwater and battling underwater and all this stuff.
• 43:38
  [UNKNOWN]: That is like the perfect, it's funny because you said, you said no more water catching balls, but that's like the perfect like biome for them to introduce a new ball, where something, you know, like a jet ball underwater, apparently, apparently,
• 43:55
  [UNKNOWN]: there could be some legends RC's type of catching in this game.
• 43:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, I think if that's not one of our picks today, I think that should be maybe that's my next one.
• 44:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'll add that.
• 44:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll add that.
• 44:08
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, we're kind of mixed in the action, but you know, like I just think that legend style catching should be in this game.
• 44:14
  [UNKNOWN]: And so I think all of the legends RC's balls should come back.
• 44:20
  [UNKNOWN]: whether it's modern versions, which probably would be because that's what logically makes sense, but like those balls should come back to work under water as well, like not only just like up in the air or in the sky or on land.
• 44:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the heavy ball could be adapted to capturing like, well, I guess the jet ball makes sense to capture and poke one on the air, but I was thinking like,
• 44:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know that honestly maybe I had to go under water, too.
• 44:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, you know what's crazy?
• 44:45
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what's crazy?
• 44:46
  [UNKNOWN]: All of those arcus balls are just primitive versions of pokeballs that actually exist.
• 44:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, heavy ball except for the Jet Ball.
• 44:54
  [UNKNOWN]: The Jet Ball's the only like unique one.
• 44:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, dude, that's a really good.
• 44:58
  [UNKNOWN]: So they, they honestly, all they would need to do is like bring that back to allow you to catch flying types better, or if they do the legends archaeostyle, they can have the like heat-seeking thing or the quick throw, whatever the effect is that it has, and that would be really cool.
• 45:19
  [UNKNOWN]: And that would, that would honestly be a really easy natural way to facilitate a new ball
• 45:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, introduce the predecessor.
• 45:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Now just give us like the modern day version.
• 45:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, I've never I've got the descriptions of these legends RCS balls up right now the feather ball says it can be thrown further than a regular pokeball is more effective for catching Pokemon that fly high in the air.
• 45:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I've never read that.
• 45:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 45:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 45:48
  [UNKNOWN]: The feather wing in Jetball.
• 45:50
  [UNKNOWN]: There's a fair travel.
• 45:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 45:52
  [UNKNOWN]: And then the lead in ball and the gigatown ball, it says it doesn't fly far, but it's more effective for catching Pokemon that hasn't noticed the player.
• 46:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, I get it.
• 46:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Perfect.
• 46:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Now you're right.
• 46:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I guess, but it's an upgrade to version of the heavy ball, which we do have.
• 46:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm supposed to give it to the ball.
• 46:09
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like the best name ever.
• 46:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 46:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 46:13
  [UNKNOWN]: And all of those again, that's cool.
• 46:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Those are all.
• 46:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, obviously like there's the different iterations of the heavy ball for instance, but like all those balls are, uh,
• 46:24
  [UNKNOWN]: They're available in modern Pokemon games.
• 46:26
  [UNKNOWN]: So just give us the modern jetball and that would be great.
• 46:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Especially because it's flying types and this game is going to be super flying oriented.
• 46:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 46:37
  [UNKNOWN]: So this is kind of cool.
• 46:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I never noticed this but there's a and this is Sun and Moon concept art.
• 46:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, or key art official.
• 46:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, key art.
• 46:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 46:47
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a official key art.
• 46:48
  [UNKNOWN]: And it says, uh, this is called at least on Bolipedia.
• 46:50
  [UNKNOWN]: They're calling it the ride page or a pokeball.
• 46:52
  [UNKNOWN]: And you can see it, the main character who's using he's calling Pokemon with the ride page.
• 46:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I didn't realize that he has a unique, he's got a special pokeball in there.
• 47:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I had no idea.
• 47:02
  [UNKNOWN]: That seems to connect to like the ride page or device.
• 47:05
  [UNKNOWN]: So that's kind of interesting because we've talked about ride Pokemon.
• 47:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe we can talk about that next.
• 47:09
  [UNKNOWN]: this is just one after another.
• 47:11
  [UNKNOWN]: That's how it goes.
• 47:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to use my Pokemon to traverse and overcome the elements in this new region.
• 47:18
  [UNKNOWN]: So maybe I have this poster.
• 47:23
  [UNKNOWN]: It's very funny how these discussions work because I was going to mention the arches catching.
• 47:29
  [UNKNOWN]: But my second thought after that was talking about ride Pokemon.
• 47:33
  [UNKNOWN]: So yeah, before before we move on from R.C.
• 47:35
  [UNKNOWN]: is catching, like hold that thought.
• 47:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I just, well, I want to say like new Pokeballs.
• 47:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I didn't know, right?
• 47:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I was saying we should bring, they should bring the, the items back as well.
• 47:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I know that's like a big ask.
• 47:49
  [UNKNOWN]: But if you do like full R.C.
• 47:51
  [UNKNOWN]: is catching, I think one of the things that Z.A.
• 47:53
  [UNKNOWN]: lacked a lot was just like,
• 47:55
  [UNKNOWN]: The I don't know the random items that you throw at the Pokemon to like help you catch them essentially, which is like kind of the let's go the go like Feature that they had going on like berries.
• 48:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 48:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 48:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you know you would throw like a smoke ball at them and that would like They wouldn't be able to see and so then you could throw the pokeballs because if it's literally arseous catching you know You're not doing any type of battling so you got to make it like
• 48:20
  [UNKNOWN]: more engaging than just throwing them and hoping that they get caught you know yeah that is fun I guess I think that would be really fun to add into this but it maybe it's like a little niche for for legends games but the thing is they didn't put it in ZA and it's like okay we ever gonna get that again you know no I guess what I want to say is like I like the idea I would rather instead of items from the trainer I would want the attention to be in the power to come from the Pokemon and my team so like rather than battling the Pokemon
• 48:50
  [UNKNOWN]: to weaken it and then capturing it.
• 48:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I guess, I mean, you would still do that.
• 48:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Actually, yeah, honestly, instead of doing that in a turn-based system, instead, I would want to do that from the overworld in Scarlett and Violet with the Let's Go feature, you can just attack wild Pokemon.
• 49:05
  [UNKNOWN]: So they could just kind of fuse those two things together.
• 49:07
  [UNKNOWN]: You're running in Generation 10.
• 49:09
  [UNKNOWN]: You send, you know, I send out my Pomban.
• 49:12
  [UNKNOWN]: It attacks the new bug type.
• 49:16
  [UNKNOWN]: But I'm not in a turn-based battle.
• 49:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm just like, I'm telling Pombon like, you know, weaken it.
• 49:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe there's a couple options.
• 49:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Weak in.
• 49:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe there's like distract.
• 49:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Make it dizzy.
• 49:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 49:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Like maybe there's a couple like spokes getting.
• 49:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 49:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 49:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Like whatever the the version of smoke screen.
• 49:33
  [UNKNOWN]: That's true.
• 49:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I guess Pombon could do that with its fire types.
• 49:35
  [UNKNOWN]: But anyways, I'm just saying like legends RC is capturing.
• 49:39
  [UNKNOWN]: But also,
• 49:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Or I guess like, yeah, you could, I'm just saying, I guess I'm just re-creating capturing Pokemon normally, but I'm saying like capture the Pokemon like normal, but I was going to do outside of battle.
• 49:54
  [UNKNOWN]: That way it's more fluid, right?
• 49:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And then if I wanted to engage the Pokemon, I could do that and it becomes term-based.
• 50:01
  [UNKNOWN]: And legends are sealed.
• 50:03
  [UNKNOWN]: In legends are sealed.
• 50:04
  [UNKNOWN]: They did have if your Pokemon was running alongside you to like break the the like gem stones.
• 50:10
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, I mean, that kind of feels the same way.
• 50:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that's the same as the let's go feature in Scarlett and Violet because I don't really like that feature because it just feels like your Pokemon is just nothing.
• 50:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Just like it goes and does what it wants to love.
• 50:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't like a lot of it's like role.
• 50:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's like AI or something to me.
• 50:27
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like, oh, you're just controlled by something, some other creature out there, or some other entity.
• 50:33
  [UNKNOWN]: But yeah, I like pushing a button and making my Pokemon do something instead of throwing it.
• 50:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm just saying instead of throwing a smoke ball, have my Pokemon, like confuse it with its elemental power.
• 50:47
  [UNKNOWN]: That's all I'm saying.
• 50:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I didn't explain that, right?
• 50:49
  [UNKNOWN]: But I like that idea.
• 50:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Honestly, that's a lot of fun.
• 50:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's like the full legends RCS catching.
• 50:57
  [UNKNOWN]: It was not just throwing pokeballs.
• 50:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like people kind of forget, but there was a lot of, or maybe people didn't even use it.
• 51:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Like they just kept throwing pokeballs over and over, but you can use so many items to like make your catching easier or better.
• 51:10
  [UNKNOWN]: So yeah, it was part of it all.
• 51:13
  [UNKNOWN]: What do you think about the hoops, any other thoughts?
• 51:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, I mean, I think that pretty much covers it.
• 51:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I would love to see that.
• 51:21
  [UNKNOWN]: And I hope it happens.
• 51:23
  [UNKNOWN]: There's there, there are the, there are rumors about that that that's like supposedly.
• 51:30
  [UNKNOWN]: What's going to happen at least in terms of the.
• 51:33
  [UNKNOWN]: the real time just throwing a pokeball outside of battle.
• 51:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, it makes sense, especially with underwater things.
• 51:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Because I just still don't understand how we're going to do battles or catch Pokemon underwater.
• 51:44
  [UNKNOWN]: So if you're just only catching, like by throwing pokeballs under water, it makes a lot of sense.
• 51:50
  [UNKNOWN]: You just toss a pokeball at a pokeman that's swimming by.
• 51:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so.
• 51:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 51:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, the tools are, I guess the tools are kind of cool, the special items.
• 52:00
  [UNKNOWN]: And that is always been a thing even in turn based Pokemon games like you can throw a cliffhary doll or a smoke, I think it's a smoke wall to like escape battle, but a lot of these things, I think it would just, I think feel better to use your Pokemon in your party to control the environment into, you know what I'm saying?
• 52:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, it's about the Pokemon.
• 52:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, and I would want to use my Pokemon to over to control and effects my environment and to make me Swat like that's my power in the game.
• 52:30
  [UNKNOWN]: So I mean, I love that as well.
• 52:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I just wonder how practical or how they would do it really.
• 52:35
  [UNKNOWN]: But since this is, I mean, that's what we do now wish list, right?
• 52:38
  [UNKNOWN]: So let's let's make the Pokemon do it for sure.
• 52:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 52:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 52:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 52:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 52:43
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 52:44
  [UNKNOWN]: So, okay.
• 52:45
  [UNKNOWN]: So, yeah, new new types of Pokeballs, dynamic real-time catching gameplay is what I wrote down and then ride Pokemon.
• 52:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Did we talk about the ride Pokemon again?
• 52:55
  [UNKNOWN]: No.
• 52:56
  [UNKNOWN]: If we're controlling our environment, let us use our Pokemon.
• 53:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me, if I need to traverse the waves, right?
• 53:04
  [UNKNOWN]: If the waves are too powerful, I don't want to just learn HM, let alone an HM and you surf.
• 53:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to like
• 53:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to harness a Gyrodos, a Pokemon that is strong enough in level, and then get it and then like learn a skill to traverse the waves, right?
• 53:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I want there to be an Austin John plays video that teaches me the best way to traverse the waves even if you're under a leveled, right?
• 53:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I want there to be a skill in the overworld.
• 53:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want there just to be a skill of knowledge in battle, right?
• 53:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to just memorize rock paper scissors, like the Pokemon equivalent.
• 53:41
  [UNKNOWN]: even in the game, how do I finesse my way through this, through this region?
• 53:46
  [UNKNOWN]: So I think ride Pokemon as a part of this.
• 53:49
  [UNKNOWN]: you don't want your correct on or right on to eat a sandwich and just gain the ability that's fine that's fine but i don't want to be like i don't want it i'm just saying okay yeah that's no that's that's even fine but i think no matter what the ride Pokemon are i want to be able to like i still again what i'm saying i want the ride Pokemon to be more i guess like i still want to
• 54:12
  [UNKNOWN]: have, I don't know, like, learn a skill on the ride Pokemon, right?
• 54:17
  [UNKNOWN]: And maybe, like, riding a Fero versus, or what's a good example, riding a Pidgey is different than riding a, a, a, a star actor, you know, right, like a star actor will give me better flying abilities.
• 54:32
  [UNKNOWN]: You're almost talking about skill trees, but for riding ride Pokemon,
• 54:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, which brings me to my next to piggyback off of that.
• 54:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I think honestly a really cool way that you could do ride Pokemon and have it feel more natural unless tacked on just like it's like the sandwich thing.
• 55:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 55:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Is to kind of make it like a sort of a more of a real world application where it's like, okay, Pidgey is obviously a flying type.
• 55:09
  [UNKNOWN]: So you could like it can fly, but it's not going to be able to carry you around because it's this tiny little thing.
• 55:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 55:16
  [UNKNOWN]: But once it evolves into a Pidgey Odo, then maybe it could.
• 55:21
  [UNKNOWN]: So you could use that sort of logic and say, okay, you can
• 55:27
  [UNKNOWN]: use fly to fly around with any two-stage or higher, second-stage or higher, flying-type Pokemon.
• 55:37
  [UNKNOWN]: or you can surf with any two-stage or higher water type Pokemon.
• 55:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Just stuff like that that creates a natural barrier, but it doesn't create an artificial limitation.
• 55:51
  [UNKNOWN]: It creates something that's okay.
• 55:53
  [UNKNOWN]: There is a barrier I can't just do this right away.
• 55:57
  [UNKNOWN]: but it's something that feels natural in the world to where it's like it feels earned.
• 56:02
  [UNKNOWN]: It's going to be earned and it's going to take some progress to get there.
• 56:05
  [UNKNOWN]: But at the same time, it's like if I'm really fascinated by the water and I want to surf over to another island really quick, I'll just hurry and evolve my gecko and then I can get right over there, you know?
• 56:16
  [UNKNOWN]: And so it gives me freedom of movement where I don't have to wait till the third gym to find the HM, you know?
• 56:23
  [UNKNOWN]: But it'll be easier if you wait.
• 56:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, so it gives you a little bit of flexibility in that way, so I would love I would love that.
• 56:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I do want to say though that I am skeptical about my I'm skeptical about my optimism for this.
• 56:39
  [UNKNOWN]: We know that the that that wrote him scooter exists.
• 56:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there's the other room and we We know but it's even on It's on the guy.
• 56:49
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like a And we don't I get know how how Integrated or involved that's gonna be because I still think like how is that gonna work underwater for instance?
• 57:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm just like I'm also I'm also just like baffled.
• 57:05
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like
• 57:07
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like we have this island region with all these water Pokemon jumping out of the water and you're going to make me surf across the water with a scooter, like, yeah, I'm like, I'm like, that's a real missed opportunity if that happens.
• 57:21
  [UNKNOWN]: So I feel like it's it's it.
• 57:23
  [UNKNOWN]: It has to do with the practicality of it once again.
• 57:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I think we were talking about with making all the Pokemon do like specific moves, you know, with catching, you know, how much can they actually do, especially if we get like 300 new Pokemon, that's crazy to like be like, oh, yeah, any of them, you can take in the water and surf, you know, it'd be like, are they going to want to make unique animations and models of your trainer riding every single Pokemon?
• 57:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I think there is, I mean, to be honest, there is technology,
• 57:54
  [UNKNOWN]: like in in in in in in game design if yeah like we've seen that in Scarlett and Violet there is like a technology that has been implemented in Scarlett and Violet with the Terra hats that could be carried over to how the main character could ride.
• 58:11
  [UNKNOWN]: whatever Pokemon, and basically what that is is like every single Pokemon, right, in Scarlet and Violet, somewhere on their model, there's a designated spot for where the Terra hat would go, and so whatever that is,
• 58:26
  [UNKNOWN]: they just apply that to every single model in generation 10 and whatever section that is on the Pokemon, that's where your trainer would like sit on top of.
• 58:35
  [UNKNOWN]: However, we've seen some leaked images that suggest that, yeah, there's gonna be some sort of like, are like we're gonna be riding a road time and then like controlling our Pokemon, it's a little bit hazy.
• 58:50
  [UNKNOWN]: But I guess I would say that actually might,
• 58:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Like if that's the case, then every Pokemon could do what we're talking about, where you could write a Pidgey, if it can learn fly, and they don't need to worry about making that look realistic because you're writing a Rotom, who's following Pidgey in accessing Pidgey's power.
• 59:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, maybe.
• 59:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying that's satisfying because it's nice to like literally write the Pokemon.
• 59:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 59:15
  [UNKNOWN]: One thing about it that would actually make it somewhat cool, because in my opinion,
• 59:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, the, the end game like the actual official look at it that we get, where it's like on their back back.
• 59:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, to me, it looks more like a hoverboard than a actual scooter.
• 59:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 59:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, official, the official look at it.
• 59:36
  [UNKNOWN]: So if it was more like a hoverboard type thing,
• 59:41
  [UNKNOWN]: writing a hoverboard like across the waves.
• 59:46
  [UNKNOWN]: That could be actually kind of fun if you just simply implement it right.
• 59:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Like if it's like if it's like free flowing and I can do some tricks or whatever like that could be neat.
• 59:58
  [UNKNOWN]: But
• 1:00:00
  [UNKNOWN]: It still would be just like super disappointing to have all these Pokemon and not be able to do anything with them.
• 1:00:06
  [UNKNOWN]: So yeah, I hope there is some kind of I hope there's just some kind of like compromise or some kind of change to where it's like we do get to use these Pokemon.
• 1:00:17
  [UNKNOWN]: somewhat.
• 1:00:18
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think it may be not even in the sense of like writing them around just like kind of like Z.A.
• 1:00:24
  [UNKNOWN]: where it's like you had a rock in the way you used a fighting type Pokemon to break it like just something I can do to I mean, writing is the is the optimal ideal scenario.
• 1:00:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 1:00:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Being able to just use Pokemon in these kinds of ways to traverse the world.
• 1:00:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and track the world is what we want.
• 1:00:44
  [UNKNOWN]: And I honestly think like I think about like
• 1:00:47
  [UNKNOWN]: like surfing obviously use water types to surf or flying.
• 1:00:52
  [UNKNOWN]: You obviously are going to use flying types to fly around.
• 1:00:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they could actually do this with most of the types to create a scenario where it's like
• 1:01:03
  [UNKNOWN]: All types of terrain can be like further explored if you have a certain type of Pokemon.
• 1:01:09
  [UNKNOWN]: So like, so like if you are in the forest, like you can use a grass type to use cut and yeah, through the thick jungle or if you are, but you don't need HMs, but you need HMs, you need a grass type.
• 1:01:25
  [UNKNOWN]: You don't need the HMs, you need a grass type or maybe even in the place deal.
• 1:01:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I guess I'm thinking they could make they could extend this a little bit and make every Pokemon have like a Or fall under these like hidden categories, but yes, I agree with you.
• 1:01:40
  [UNKNOWN]: That's that's like like their trait like so like a water type stray is it can serve a grass type stray is that it can It can use cut.
• 1:01:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, a rock type or a fighting type stray is it can use strength.
• 1:01:52
  [UNKNOWN]: So that's that's what I would like
• 1:01:54
  [UNKNOWN]: This is cool before I get off this I guess I do want to ask like what is it that makes ride Pokemon so special because we've had two different versions of ride Pokemon and it's either been we're just given a ride Pokemon and it appears out of the nether right or we've seen it where it's our specific Pokemon that we get to ride and
• 1:02:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I feel like this is, I don't know, like I think, honestly, let's go Pikachu and Eevee almost does it the best because you actually get to ride your specific Pokemon and we talk about legends RC speaking so cool and I think that is it is cool because you play from the perspective of
• 1:02:35
  [UNKNOWN]: the Pokemon that you're writing, but those aren't your Pokemon.
• 1:02:38
  [UNKNOWN]: You don't capture them.
• 1:02:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but that one does make sense, though, in lore, too.
• 1:02:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, they're the, are they the nobles, but they, they're like a specific Pokemon that you call upon to come.
• 1:02:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:02:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Be with you.
• 1:02:48
  [UNKNOWN]: But is it, but is that, is that, is that as satisfying as the, the, the page you're Pokemon in Sun and Moon?
• 1:02:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Two.
• 1:02:56
  [UNKNOWN]: That's way more satisfying than the one in son and moon because in son and moon, they're just random Pokemon that just come to what's the difference?
• 1:03:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Help you all like in the same.
• 1:03:04
  [UNKNOWN]: These these ones are like They are like a character like weirdier that dude is he is the one noble weirdier that's there to for you to ride on to go around the world
• 1:03:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's a little different.
• 1:03:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I think like the other ones are just like store-bought chargers that are just coming to fly you so much.
• 1:03:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and they give you like this little outfit that you have to wear while riding because you got to be safe like I'm all for safety but I want to look cool while I'm riding the chargers.
• 1:03:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, where are your helmets?
• 1:03:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Kids?
• 1:03:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it saves lives.
• 1:03:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I am.
• 1:03:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I do want to say also like kind of going back but also on the topic of let's go.
• 1:03:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I think let's go did it the best for sure.
• 1:03:46
  [UNKNOWN]: But it's just I just under appreciated I don't appreciate it that much and it's select.
• 1:03:51
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I think it's so good.
• 1:03:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's so good.
• 1:03:54
  [UNKNOWN]: But what I'm thinking is just for our wish list here.
• 1:03:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Like even though the the scooter exists or the hoverboard,
• 1:04:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, we've seen many times in Pokemon games where like you'll start with like, you know, the running, just running or like skates and then you'll move to the bicycle, you know, I mean, so it's not out of the question that the server board could only could be the only thing that we use to to ride Pokemon.
• 1:04:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm I'm just.
• 1:04:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm just thinking.
• 1:04:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm just speculating that maybe, you know, we use the hoverboard for most things like you could do that.
• 1:04:29
  [UNKNOWN]: You could choose to do that and then maybe there's like I'm not against having a specific I like this Pokemon a specific set of Pokemon like in let's go like five or six of them that you can choose that can be on your team even if you'd like and there you're right Pokemon for these specific terrains.
• 1:04:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Dusty, Dusty, Dusty, Dusty.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Stop.
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  [UNKNOWN]: What?
• 1:04:52
  [UNKNOWN]: You gotta calm down a little bit.
• 1:04:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I think we need to take a little break.
• 1:04:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna go point.
• 1:04:55
  [UNKNOWN]: That was a crazy thing you just said.
• 1:04:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Can we go back to the, I made a really good point to miss.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, so moving on now to, what is this number six?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Something like that.
• 1:06:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to talk about, I think what I want in Generation 10 is maybe like a return to form for some classic Pokemon categories.
• 1:06:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm talking, fossil Pokemon.
• 1:06:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm talking, you know, we normally get pseudo legendary, so that's totally fine.
• 1:06:59
  [UNKNOWN]: But even just like tropes like trade evolutions, right?
• 1:07:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Two stage.
• 1:07:04
  [UNKNOWN]: And then a trade evolution to say, you know, like I'm thinking about like the can't you know the can't though decks whatever tropes are there I want them here I'm looking forward to a brand new regional bug new regional flying type, you know, I'm looking for more regional forms like like honestly just straight up more regional forms we don't have we barely got any in generation nine so I'm dying for some new regional forms.
• 1:07:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, what do you guys think about this you know the I know there's some more there there is a kind of Pokemon like this that I have been thinking about and I've grown a fondness for it because no one really thinks about it, but it is like legit I want to see a new obstacle Pokemon
• 1:07:52
  [UNKNOWN]: like Snorlax or Citawoodo or Kecleon, because they did though.
• 1:07:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:07:57
  [UNKNOWN]: For the first few generations, and then they kind of stopped.
• 1:08:00
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think that would be so cool, and neat to see a new one.
• 1:08:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I think, yeah, honestly, that's actually a really good idea to kind of ties into all this other stuff we've been talking about.
• 1:08:08
  [UNKNOWN]: When it comes to like, overworld gameplay, like, yeah, I think also, even though even though the waves and the environments and the biomes are going to be a challenge, I think the Pokemon could also be a challenge, for sure.
• 1:08:22
  [UNKNOWN]: That's super fun.
• 1:08:22
  [UNKNOWN]: And in generation one, that, yeah.
• 1:08:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Sudavuto, it's not like those were the obstacles that we had to overcome.
• 1:08:29
  [UNKNOWN]: When it wasn't it, you know, something that we could control with like an HM.
• 1:08:32
  [UNKNOWN]: So I love that.
• 1:08:33
  [UNKNOWN]: That's really good.
• 1:08:34
  [UNKNOWN]: It's funny.
• 1:08:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I thought of Obstigoon when you said that.
• 1:08:37
  [UNKNOWN]: It was like, wait, what?
• 1:08:39
  [UNKNOWN]: You want another Obstigoon?
• 1:08:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I think you would have been right.
• 1:08:41
  [UNKNOWN]: That was great for Gen 8.
• 1:08:43
  [UNKNOWN]: He's just like, standing in the middle of the house.
• 1:08:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, doesn't there, isn't there some kind of, there's something, isn't there?
• 1:08:49
  [UNKNOWN]: In, in Gen 8 where he does read pops up and he's like, he does stay in front of you, but in myself.
• 1:08:54
  [UNKNOWN]: A little bit.
• 1:08:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I think you're glad to hear yourself.
• 1:08:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, is there not like a battle with, with Marny or her brother?
• 1:09:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Where obstacle is like there first like like a second to like block it.
• 1:09:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like that's the thing I could be totally wrong.
• 1:09:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't But I could be wrong.
• 1:09:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna I'm gonna look it up.
• 1:09:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll split split second, but yeah, yes, I agree Yeah, because like even I
• 1:09:20
  [UNKNOWN]: It was a thing like the first three generations.
• 1:09:22
  [UNKNOWN]: And then it was kind of even a thing in Gen 4, but they used the cytok instead of making a whole new Pokemon.
• 1:09:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
• 1:09:30
  [UNKNOWN]: And so it was, it was, it was, it was in general.
• 1:09:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, across the, across the, yeah.
• 1:09:36
  [UNKNOWN]: It was kind of like a stand-in.
• 1:09:38
  [UNKNOWN]: But yeah, I just, I think it would be cool to make a whole new Pokemon like that that's like your classic like, oh, it's in the middle of the road, type of thing.
• 1:09:48
  [UNKNOWN]: but have it just me something brand new.
• 1:09:51
  [UNKNOWN]: With with looking up for this, yeah.
• 1:09:54
  [UNKNOWN]: With dusty looking up those like the new obstacles that they put in the games, those could have totally been Pokemon like NZA, the rocks that you break, or you know, I'd kill a bunch of geodes, some of them.
• 1:10:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, you don't even have to like kill them, but you know, like they create it, and then like the Pokemon pops up out of there.
• 1:10:12
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, what about like that?
• 1:10:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:10:14
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I like that.
• 1:10:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Ooh.
• 1:10:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like bring back the cl- that's another thing that's like roadblock Pokemon is what they're called.
• 1:10:21
  [UNKNOWN]: We want I would love to have another like opt not obstacle, but like
• 1:10:29
  [UNKNOWN]: where you break a rock and a Pokemon pops out.
• 1:10:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Ooh, yeah, that kind of thing, you know?
• 1:10:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, like, you can smash a rock and a chuckle pops out or something.
• 1:10:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, that, like, what does that mean?
• 1:10:39
  [UNKNOWN]: That's true.
• 1:10:40
  [UNKNOWN]: What they did in Z.A., like imagine, like you break the rock or you get rid of the, the, the, the goop or whatever it is.
• 1:10:47
  [UNKNOWN]: But a Pokemon pops out and now you have to battle it.
• 1:10:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, no, that's, especially the poison thing, the poison group.
• 1:10:53
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like random poison here.
• 1:10:55
  [UNKNOWN]: A climber pops out.
• 1:10:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I didn't even think about it, but you're right.
• 1:10:58
  [UNKNOWN]: In Scarlet and Violet, one of the things that I think contributes to that game feeling, and again, I'm not trying to brag on it.
• 1:11:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm just looking at it as an example of like, you know, it's it.
• 1:11:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it is an open world game, and I've got 600 hours and I've played it to heck.
• 1:11:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm just saying like, it's a good example to say like, okay, we got this.
• 1:11:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Here's how to fix it.
• 1:11:15
  [UNKNOWN]: something that I think contributed to Scarlet and Violet feeling the world feeling so I guess barren is the fact that all of the Pokemon are in the overworld and there really are no ways there's like nothing to uncover right in past Pokemon games in generation two three four right yeah you have things like rocks mash you have things like headbutt you have things like right surf these hidden Pokemon once you enter into a new terrain you're able to see
• 1:11:43
  [UNKNOWN]: new Pokemon that call that terrain their habitat, right?
• 1:11:48
  [UNKNOWN]: And I feel like we did, I guess the way that manifested in generation nine was we have aptland in the trees.
• 1:11:54
  [UNKNOWN]: We have spideops or or whatever yeah, the baby in the tree.
• 1:11:56
  [UNKNOWN]: We have you know we have bugs in the trees.
• 1:11:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh baby.
• 1:11:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, what is it?
• 1:11:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh
• 1:12:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like it removes the gameplay or like the discover a bill, it's just like it's there and because it's there there's no tension.
• 1:12:19
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:12:19
  [UNKNOWN]: And so that's actually, that's a great point.
• 1:12:21
  [UNKNOWN]: That's something I definitely, I definitely miss.
• 1:12:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:12:26
  [UNKNOWN]: And I looked at Google is an obstacle in gen 8 and torros is an obstacle in gen 7, but but like the difference with those, yeah, they're like they're not, they are used as roadblocks, but they were not designed to be a roadblock.
• 1:12:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Like yeah, Kekli on Citaduto and Snorlax all were intentionally made as like, this is how you encounter this Pokemon is with this road.
• 1:12:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you can catch them.
• 1:12:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Right, and that's that's what I want to see and I would love to see it like And kind of like like either a familiar way like like a snorlax where it's just blocking the road or Or like a new different way like what would a fire type Pokemon with this kind of role be like what would a poison type Pokemon with this role be like like I think there's like a lot of cool possibilities with that
• 1:13:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think so.
• 1:13:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, okay.
• 1:13:19
  [UNKNOWN]: So roadblock Pokemon, I'll add to the list, but yeah, be happy about fossils regional forms.
• 1:13:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I think I think fossils for sure should I was thinking about regional forms, too, but we'll start with the fossils, I guess.
• 1:13:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, yeah, did we, we didn't have them in gen 9.
• 1:13:36
  [UNKNOWN]: The last, we had, I mean, I would say the, the last true fossils that we've had were in generation six.
• 1:13:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the last, sorry, the last like, yeah, classic tradition traditional, yeah, the last traditional fossils were Don't say the wrong thing because yeah, those guys are some people's favorites and they've been like And I like these these four guys, nothing wrong with them.
• 1:13:57
  [UNKNOWN]: There's nothing wrong with that.
• 1:13:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I love them actually
• 1:14:00
  [UNKNOWN]: But they've been there's been a surge in popularity for these four at least for three of them.
• 1:14:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's their funny to me because like I like the concept behind them.
• 1:14:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that's a great way to do fossils and like reference that little bit of history.
• 1:14:19
  [UNKNOWN]: It's the designs where they look just so intentionally mismatched is that is what kind of turns
• 1:14:29
  [UNKNOWN]: When I was like collecting the pieces and then it was like, oh, we're gonna put these together I was like holy cow.
• 1:14:35
  [UNKNOWN]: This is gonna be amazing because it's like Dragon or whatever it's so like I feel like I feel like if they would have made them like like I know it's the point But if they made them like a little more cohesive they could have been like you know like just like so like unbelievably good Thank you.
• 1:14:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah
• 1:14:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I think Arctovish is always just kind of felt like a little bit of a dud, because it's just like a stupid fish.
• 1:15:03
  [UNKNOWN]: What do you like about that?
• 1:15:05
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a goober.
• 1:15:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 1:15:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 1:15:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I like it so much.
• 1:15:09
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a great.
• 1:15:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's ridiculous, and it's like, there's nothing to me.
• 1:15:15
  [UNKNOWN]: it's just a broken fish.
• 1:15:16
  [UNKNOWN]: The other ones are charming in a little bit fantastical.
• 1:15:19
  [UNKNOWN]: ArctoVish to me, it's just, I'm like, I'm like, it should have had like, it should have had like the body, I don't know.
• 1:15:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you see what it's supposed to be though?
• 1:15:29
  [UNKNOWN]: We're so on a tangent right now, but like you see what the it's supposed to have like a little face on the front, even though that the mouth is actually on the top.
• 1:15:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this is supposed to be like a fake face almost.
• 1:15:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Like with the almost like a beard.
• 1:15:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I see.
• 1:15:43
  [UNKNOWN]: But yeah, I just think it's stupid because it and are also like, it doesn't even have like an interesting type.
• 1:15:49
  [UNKNOWN]: It just ends up the time.
• 1:15:50
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not great.
• 1:15:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, this is just less cohesive due gone.
• 1:15:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know what we're doing.
• 1:15:57
  [UNKNOWN]: But the other ones are great.
• 1:15:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not trying to hate on these on the galore fossils.
• 1:16:00
  [UNKNOWN]: All I'm saying is, it's got a lot of time, you know, it's good to be honest, the fossil Pokemon were pretty consistent through every single generation.
• 1:16:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Gen 2 didn't have a fossil.
• 1:16:12
  [UNKNOWN]: But then we just got him every single year, which generation, since this is a, yeah, since this is a, like, this is a generation 10 and the anniversary type of game, I could, I pretty much like think that fossils will be here, just for the sake of, like, the first generation had it, so this game has to have it, too.
• 1:16:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:16:32
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a classic thing.
• 1:16:33
  [UNKNOWN]: And I always hear people say like,
• 1:16:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, well, Sun and Moon, you know, Hawaii didn't, you know, Sun and Moon didn't have any fossils because like Hawaii doesn't have any fossils.
• 1:16:43
  [UNKNOWN]: But I'm like, I don't know.
• 1:16:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like there's still ways you could have done it, right?
• 1:16:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Generation one, they have the old Amber.
• 1:16:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, is that technically a fossil?
• 1:16:50
  [UNKNOWN]: That's a different way to like, that's a different way for DNA to be preserved.
• 1:16:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sure.
• 1:16:56
  [UNKNOWN]: It's also, it's also a fantasy, this is Pokemon, like they can do whatever they want.
• 1:17:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I love how with the old Amber, they just so blatantly ripped off Jurassic Park.
• 1:17:07
  [UNKNOWN]: But even the mosquitoes there and everything.
• 1:17:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know what it's like.
• 1:17:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Is that a Pokemon?
• 1:17:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:17:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, is is the mosquito a Pokemon that we just never knew about do do mosquitoes exist is that right?
• 1:17:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Is that like a hospital Pokemon?
• 1:17:19
  [UNKNOWN]: It's it's the the real version of bus will in our world so I I think a new fossil will be super fun And think and I'll raise this I think it also be kind of cool to see some
• 1:17:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Some cool what if we got like regional evolutions or new evolutions for some of the older fossils that's something that they've never done that would be something new yeah and it's something new and it's like I think that's also just interesting in terms of like the lore like we
• 1:17:49
  [UNKNOWN]: you know, eradactyl got a mega, but why can't, I don't know, like why can't kabootops evolve to adapt to a more modern environment, like it's supposedly, right, these fossils are supposedly resurrected and resemble what they, you know, would have looked like millions of years ago, but
• 1:18:10
  [UNKNOWN]: do they then evolve in new environment maybe yes, I guess that's the issue with it is like how did they evolve because you got to like get the fossil and Recreated or whatever and then I think they will I think in the lore they just evolve like any other Pokemon you give it a firestone you give it, you know, you evolve it next to a mossy rock you give it it can evolve it by it, you know You get three critical hits when the stick item like it you get it you can do any
• 1:18:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think I think specifically with they could do something fun with the older fossils and be like This like kabutops has Has been resurrected for 30 years and now it is adapted to modern life That's fun has changed or something.
• 1:18:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I let a lot do that's cool.
• 1:18:57
  [UNKNOWN]: And the the other way I've also thought about interpreting that is
• 1:19:01
  [UNKNOWN]: you could have a fossil that is revived in a different region.
• 1:19:07
  [UNKNOWN]: So Kabutops revived in the Wins and Waves region.
• 1:19:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe the scientists there did something a little different.
• 1:19:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:19:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, revived it in a different way.
• 1:19:18
  [UNKNOWN]: So would kind of be like a regional form and then a regional evolution in a way.
• 1:19:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, which I'll do it.
• 1:19:24
  [UNKNOWN]: And then guess what, I mean we have this rumored Pokemon legends gallery game set to be in a couple years from now during the generation 10 era could we maybe see
• 1:19:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, maybe not the original drakeo-zolt or kdo-zolt, we don't see the original fossils, but yeah, maybe they just evolve different.
• 1:19:45
  [UNKNOWN]: They evolve from those base stages.
• 1:19:46
  [UNKNOWN]: That's super fun, man, because they existed.
• 1:19:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they exist now, but then they adapt, they evolve to and then one of their traits are like just totally exaggerated.
• 1:19:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, this is a tangent.
• 1:19:59
  [UNKNOWN]: This is what we want for legends galer.
• 1:20:01
  [UNKNOWN]: But yeah sure, you know what, let's start maybe start over.
• 1:20:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Welcome back to Hidden Power.
• 1:20:05
  [UNKNOWN]: We're talking about Legends Galer.
• 1:20:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but like if if that happens and the setting happens the way it's rumored and everything those original Pokemon have to be there.
• 1:20:14
  [UNKNOWN]: There's no way you can't do that because like yeah that that's their whole setup.
• 1:20:18
  [UNKNOWN]: So yeah.
• 1:20:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we should just so sick.
• 1:20:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Stop talking about Kabut house, but I'm a star, I'm a knight.
• 1:20:26
  [UNKNOWN]: He's the one that should evolve.
• 1:20:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I agree, honestly, because what is it based on like a nodalist?
• 1:20:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Is that what it's called?
• 1:20:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Ah, yeah.
• 1:20:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:20:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:20:36
  [UNKNOWN]: And I feel good.
• 1:20:37
  [UNKNOWN]: It could evolve into like a straight up crack in.
• 1:20:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:20:40
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what I was thinking.
• 1:20:42
  [UNKNOWN]: The monster that he's.
• 1:20:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Island hopping adventure.
• 1:20:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, bro.
• 1:20:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to crack in.
• 1:20:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I want.
• 1:20:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I want like a terror of the sea with a beacon.
• 1:20:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, that would be so cool.
• 1:20:51
  [UNKNOWN]: This is like the C game, you know, we know diving's there.
• 1:20:54
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like a major part of it, so.
• 1:20:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, that's tough.
• 1:20:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like evolves into like a submarine.
• 1:20:59
  [UNKNOWN]: It's already like super battle hardened.
• 1:21:01
  [UNKNOWN]: And the way that they, and this is totally a tangent, but the way that I, I think these fossil Pokemon, the opportunity, I think, if they were to get new evolutions, they would shed their rock type.
• 1:21:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
• 1:21:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 1:21:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Because that way, I know there's like disputes in the theory world of whether or not the rock type on the fossil Pokemon or our natural or not.
• 1:21:21
  [UNKNOWN]: And honestly, I think there's good points on both sides for sure.
• 1:21:25
  [UNKNOWN]: But.
• 1:21:27
  [UNKNOWN]: What they could just do is sidestep that and say guess what they evolved it now.
• 1:21:30
  [UNKNOWN]: They have a new type in this world And and that's kind of fun because it's like you give You could give uh, yeah, you could give Ammonite or or or what do we call this forget which one is which Our Lord Helix that one.
• 1:21:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're I'm looking for like a full list.
• 1:21:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you give Ammon star You give Ammon's it's Amma Kraken
• 1:21:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, I don't know, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it
• 1:22:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, would anyways.
• 1:22:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 1:22:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, maybe we do a full video on this later.
• 1:22:30
  [UNKNOWN]: This could be like it's on point, but regional forms.
• 1:22:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:22:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I do think do you regional forms.
• 1:22:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I need to come down far removed from them at this point.
• 1:22:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like like do you want a lot of regional forms in this game or do you want just a new Pokemon.
• 1:22:43
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, I want regional forms because I want both.
• 1:22:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I think new Pokemon are great new evolutions are great.
• 1:22:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll say this.
• 1:22:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want regional evolutions.
• 1:22:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I want, I want just new evolutions, right?
• 1:22:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:22:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want the evolution to be tied to a region.
• 1:22:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll say that, but yeah, I do want regional forms because I think there's Pokemon that are already good.
• 1:23:05
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think part of them, I think it's kind of nice when things are interconnected and it makes sense that like,
• 1:23:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, like just like in the real world, you have, I don't know, pick it a squirrel.
• 1:23:16
  [UNKNOWN]: You got a squirrel here.
• 1:23:17
  [UNKNOWN]: You put it somewhere else and evolves a little bit differently, and it's now maybe gains an additional trait based on whatever that environment is going to be fun.
• 1:23:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that's, yeah, I think that's fun.
• 1:23:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think you need a brand new Pokemon always, you know, we had that for like 10 years, 20 years.
• 1:23:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we had that for literally for 20 years and it started to feel a little redundant when every single generation had a normal and flying type bird.
• 1:23:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I would have, I mean, it could have been so much cooler if some of those were maybe regional forms, right?
• 1:23:48
  [UNKNOWN]: It would prevent them from filling a little bit.
• 1:23:50
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, like, did pit of need to exist, we couldn't have gotten a you know van Pidgey, that have all been to an unfeasant, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:23:58
  [UNKNOWN]: True.
• 1:23:59
  [UNKNOWN]: True.
• 1:23:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:24:00
  [UNKNOWN]: So yeah, I do want regional forms as all I'm saying.
• 1:24:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:24:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't see a problem with it.
• 1:24:07
  [UNKNOWN]: That's for sure it's not at the top of my list maybe, but I'd like it.
• 1:24:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I guess I guess sure.
• 1:24:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Is it not on the top of your list because you think it's just kind of a given?
• 1:24:21
  [UNKNOWN]: No, no, I'm just like, I don't necessarily need regional forms in a game anymore, I guess.
• 1:24:27
  [UNKNOWN]: But I, I like them.
• 1:24:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I think, I think, I kind of had this thought when they first came out is this is not a feature that is conducive to introducing it and then taking it away because the whole idea is that they are Pokemon that have adapted to different environments.
• 1:24:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And that's just like ecological physics basically.
• 1:24:51
  [UNKNOWN]: And so you can say that that doesn't exist in this region, but it doesn't exist in this region.
• 1:24:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, I mean, you, they maybe could have got away with that if they didn't do, like, if they just stopped it alone and called it good.
• 1:25:04
  [UNKNOWN]: And just said, that was a lowless special thing.
• 1:25:07
  [UNKNOWN]: But they kept doing it.
• 1:25:08
  [UNKNOWN]: They kept, they did glaryon.
• 1:25:09
  [UNKNOWN]: They did hissy and they did paldea.
• 1:25:11
  [UNKNOWN]: So like, this is just like a fact of life.
• 1:25:14
  [UNKNOWN]: basically in the Pokemon world that they can adapt to different environments.
• 1:25:18
  [UNKNOWN]: And so like there could be regions where you have them less than others, but I think they've kind of established as sort of like
• 1:25:26
  [UNKNOWN]: A fact of the world that this is a thing that happens and so I think it feels a little bit inconsistent and like weird if all the sudden you have a place where they just don't adapt like especially the wins and wave region like this is the adapting region so like we're we're going to get some for sure.
• 1:25:44
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think, honestly, I think we could be in for a surprise because I think they're going to use that whole wallous line scenario to split in the region to do like to note some kind of twist yeah like they'll do they'll do something so the the I guess one problem I see about regional forms is that when they're introduced they become attached.
• 1:26:08
  [UNKNOWN]: by name categorically to whatever the region is that they're introduced in and so like I think for a while they kind of like I think games that came after the introduction of regional forms kind of struggle with that but it seems like recently
• 1:26:23
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, an alone form is kind of now it's kind of been retcon to just be a, I guess, like a tropical there and tropical form yeah and it's called an a lowland variant because that's what it's named after but like it can exist in other environments and so we start seeing them and like I do expect to see a lot of a lowland forms in generation 10.
• 1:26:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, but I wonder if, you know, with the introduction of, like, you guys make good points.
• 1:26:48
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think maybe with the introduction of, like, convergent Pokemon, I do think I'd like to see more convergent Pokemon.
• 1:26:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that's an interesting topic.
• 1:26:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Fans have made so many cool ideas.
• 1:26:57
  [UNKNOWN]: They are basically, like, spiritual, regional forms.
• 1:27:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Like on paper, it's just, right?
• 1:27:05
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like, diglet is now a fish or whatever, right?
• 1:27:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:27:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:27:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Except, yeah.
• 1:27:11
  [UNKNOWN]: And it also gives like new creative possibilities, right, which is cool.
• 1:27:17
  [UNKNOWN]: But I really do, I've been thinking about this all year.
• 1:27:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Toros getting a regional form and then getting new variants of its regional form.
• 1:27:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Like we've seen, we've seen variants of Pokemon before, but I just think it's kind of cool that this was introduced.
• 1:27:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I guess it's not the only regional form in generation nine, but I think it's really interesting that Toros kind of regional form and that it has different breeds.
• 1:27:41
  [UNKNOWN]: And that reminds me of like, and the breeds also have new types, right, and the new designs.
• 1:27:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And it reminds me of things like Ori Corio and like other, it, it, it would, I would not be surprised.
• 1:27:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I'd almost be, I would be excited to see new regional forms, maybe a select amount in Generation 10.
• 1:28:01
  [UNKNOWN]: But then these regional forms appear differently depending on whatever island you meet them on, which is not like a new concept for Pokemon, but I think that would be just, that it kind of excites me to see these different, because I don't like combat breed, pal day and torros that much, but the other two forms are cool.
• 1:28:21
  [UNKNOWN]: And if they didn't exist, I'm like, would I just write off combat breed?
• 1:28:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, it's a good president precedent for like the future I think like this is just something that game freak does they make they're always trying something new yeah like a new twist on something that they have or they just create something new completely So I imagine like what with what hoop said and I think we've mentioned it a bunch of times on the podcast, but
• 1:28:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I think whatever kind of regional forms are going to get in this game might be different than what were used to, you know, like it would make sense.
• 1:28:57
  [UNKNOWN]: It is the environment game apparently to honestly what we've heard.
• 1:29:01
  [UNKNOWN]: So Toros could be a great blueprint because What we could see is these Pokemon getting it might even be the precursor.
• 1:29:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Like low key this might be a prediction.
• 1:29:13
  [UNKNOWN]: We can see as that's what I'm thinking.
• 1:29:15
  [UNKNOWN]: We're a Pokemon gets a regional variant, but then it has the west form and east form, just like we have.
• 1:29:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's breed art breeds.
• 1:29:26
  [UNKNOWN]: So they the each every regional form has two forms like this, but depending on the side of the region.
• 1:29:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's cool and I think about like, you know, there's been rumors that like Australia is technically going to be represented in this generation 10 map and that's cool to think because there's so many like unique creatures that live in Australia wouldn't make sense is, you know, for us to get a bunch of like Australia and like or regional forms of existing Pokemon that live in Australia.
• 1:30:00
  [UNKNOWN]: But what would make sense is for us to, instead, get a new conversion Pokemon that
• 1:30:08
  [UNKNOWN]: are similar to, you know, because they're convergent forms, two Pokemon that we know and love, like I think about a platypus.
• 1:30:14
  [UNKNOWN]: It's something that only exists in Australia.
• 1:30:16
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what?
• 1:30:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Also kind of looks like a platypus?
• 1:30:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Side duck, you know?
• 1:30:20
  [UNKNOWN]: You give side duck a beaver tail and it's laying my eggs.
• 1:30:23
  [UNKNOWN]: That's awesome.
• 1:30:24
  [UNKNOWN]: It's got the bill already.
• 1:30:25
  [UNKNOWN]: It already doesn't look like a duck.
• 1:30:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I love that.
• 1:30:27
  [UNKNOWN]: That's so much fun, right?
• 1:30:30
  [UNKNOWN]: We could get a convergent,
• 1:30:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Kangus gone, you know, I mean, I guess Kangus gone is a kangaroo, but it's it's more of a Kaiju It's kind of like that like Jen one reptile monster.
• 1:30:42
  [UNKNOWN]: So I think that's kind of fun, you know?
• 1:30:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:30:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I just went on a roller coaster through that whole thing because you
• 1:30:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I was going to say like my next point would be like, yeah, let's get like more Australia Pokemon, but like that they flesh out the Australian part of this region, but I don't know.
• 1:30:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like they should maybe save that for an actual Australian region.
• 1:31:03
  [UNKNOWN]: And so I'm thinking maybe just that they really what I want is like them to really focus on the whole Wallace line thing where there's just like a different type of Pokemon on one side of the map and then another.
• 1:31:15
  [UNKNOWN]: So like a whole new side.
• 1:31:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's not, it's just how they design the Pokemon, I think, or like the types of Pokemon essentially, because the Wallace line is just, you know, we have the Asian Pokemon over here and then the Australia and on the other side essentially, the animals, sorry, you know, like tigers and elephants are on one side, that those are not in Australia or anywhere near and then Australia has got all these other weird, you know, kangaroos and stuff.
• 1:31:43
  [UNKNOWN]: And they exist in, you know, like in Papua New Guinea or that part of Papua New Guinea that you're right is attached to Indonesia, you know, like there's a kidnapped, there's there's all kinds of different weird animals that are over there that wouldn't be in an Asian region.
• 1:31:56
  [UNKNOWN]: So all that to say, I'd really love to see like this like dividing line almost like I want them to even just.
• 1:32:04
  [UNKNOWN]: say it out loud like there's a line that these these Pokemon won't pass or they yeah the Pokemon change completely over there you know whether it's fun or not I don't know but I like I want this to be realized essentially in the game I would love that I agree I think what this does also I've said this I think all year long like but like the like the dream ever since the year 2000 with gold silver and crystal
• 1:32:30
  [UNKNOWN]: the dream and the expectation, the bar that was set for every Pokemon game to follow was we get to go to two different Pokemon regions in the same game, right?
• 1:32:41
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think to varying degrees that has been lived up to, but generation 10 with this Wallace's line.
• 1:32:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I think we could see this, the generation 10 map, the fee already includes so many different, like a variety of different real, like represents already a variety of different real-life countries, but by dividing with Wallace's line, which is that is more interested in like, not like government borders, but like environmental borders.
• 1:33:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Now they can very easily say, and that can be the whole thing.
• 1:33:20
  [UNKNOWN]: you know this this game it's like oh this this read like the NPC's right thinking about side quests like these you know this region is actually two different regions it's like over here is way different from over here and I love it dude and we even have the what's what's this is reinforced by
• 1:33:38
  [UNKNOWN]: The main characters even like the main characters that we see in wins and waves from that launch trailer once got a cowboy hat on right the they got the version your hat the other ones like They just got like a more modern ball cap and I feel like you could kind of split that up pretty evenly.
• 1:33:53
  [UNKNOWN]: And again, the pipe dream is depending on which version you start the game in.
• 1:33:58
  [UNKNOWN]: It fundamentally changes your experience because you could start on a different side of the map.
• 1:34:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Actually, I don't know if that actually would make sense necessary.
• 1:34:08
  [UNKNOWN]: That would be wild.
• 1:34:09
  [UNKNOWN]: That would be like next level.
• 1:34:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I guess maybe we all, I don't know if we all started that.
• 1:34:13
  [UNKNOWN]: But you know, it's not that we were shown.
• 1:34:16
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not out of the question depending on which version you buy like in Galer they did like the two different gym leaders and you don't even see them in in the opposite game, you know, like they could make these games much more opposite feeling like it's not that hard to start the player on one side of the map just on a different version like you still get there on the in the opposite version eventually so I could see it.
• 1:34:40
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not about the outfits your character dawns will differ between versions just what kind of story could be awaiting for you.
• 1:34:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's something.
• 1:34:47
  [UNKNOWN]: It's definitely something.
• 1:34:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Ah, that's so cool.
• 1:34:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Because he's like way more like out in the West.
• 1:34:52
  [UNKNOWN]: He's like, yeah, I'm not confused.
• 1:34:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Can you go scroll back up to the artwork of them?
• 1:34:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes.
• 1:34:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, so yeah, we've got like the hats are the main difference, basically.
• 1:35:06
  [UNKNOWN]: the hats, yeah, and then they're kind of, yeah, the outfits are pretty much the same.
• 1:35:10
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think that's also because like the outfits are probably going to be customizable.
• 1:35:16
  [UNKNOWN]: So the hat is the main signifier.
• 1:35:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, for sure.
• 1:35:19
  [UNKNOWN]: But it's the winds and waves for sure in some way, but like I wonder what the winds are they, are they just sky winds or like, you know, desert winds.
• 1:35:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, sand, sandstorms.
• 1:35:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because yeah, I don't know, it just got he's got a like country vibe to him, you know, yeah, I guess it's she does do you know, we just don't see her.
• 1:35:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yes.
• 1:35:42
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, goes next.
• 1:35:45
  [UNKNOWN]: You go back to the go back to that map really quick that you were on.
• 1:35:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Yep.
• 1:35:50
  [UNKNOWN]: uh... there's an island right there that says that it's called celibus interesting could we see uh... celiby island uh... it's due that's kind of the cello the celiby sea celiby sea just a thought just a thought just a thought just a thing just a thought we got mollica sea mollusk yeah yeah she'll also
• 1:36:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean these are Flores C. Flores C. Oh, do an I already have a Commander agent.
• 1:36:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're just we're just doing like just like a sound association Yeah, I'll I got one.
• 1:36:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I got one that I can go get into the US with
• 1:36:32
  [UNKNOWN]: So I really want to see, and my hopes are high for this based on rumors and stuff, but I really want to see a lot of interconnectivity between all the different regions in this game, especially when it comes to the characters in the game.
• 1:36:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I really want to see, I would really love to see older characters from different games pop up.
• 1:36:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I would also love to see similar to what they did in like Indigo Disc.
• 1:37:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I love to see the daughter of a character pop up or the son of a character pop up and that's
• 1:37:05
  [UNKNOWN]: kind of the rumor we're hearing like Lieutenant Serge's daughter son or something is rumored to be here and that gets me I need more than that though I agree with your point yeah I want to see some real and and then what I would love to see because this is an anniversary game they're probably gonna say something about it's been 30 years since blah blah blah blah
• 1:37:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to see like an aged up.
• 1:37:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, this actually, now I'm thinking about it.
• 1:37:32
  [UNKNOWN]: This, I feel like I heard this as a rumor too.
• 1:37:34
  [UNKNOWN]: But like, I would like to see like a senior citizen professor Oak.
• 1:37:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yes, he's in a world chair or something.
• 1:37:41
  [UNKNOWN]: So let's do a passage of really old.
• 1:37:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, my God.
• 1:37:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Show me, show me a Cynthia who's got a little bit of gray hair.
• 1:37:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, that's like a emotional.
• 1:37:49
  [UNKNOWN]: That's like a emotional.
• 1:37:51
  [UNKNOWN]: in a way.
• 1:37:53
  [UNKNOWN]: We all have to yeah face our mortality.
• 1:37:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Well what it is is like if this is like the the generation 10, the 30th anniversary, a lot of the game freak original people that made the game might be moving on after this you know like two like higher positions but they're they're older now, you know and it's like
• 1:38:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Professor Oak could be like the embodiment of that, like as an old man, just like, you know, going off into the wind or whatever, you know, like as an emotional thinking about it and like think.
• 1:38:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Imagine this.
• 1:38:26
  [UNKNOWN]: We all know that Professor Oak was going to be like a super boss character at the end of Red and Blue.
• 1:38:32
  [UNKNOWN]: So what if you bring that back and you make him a super boss character and he's like, you don't know it's him at first because he's like off on some mountain.
• 1:38:41
  [UNKNOWN]: And he's like, oh, he's got the, he's got the beard or whatever.
• 1:38:45
  [UNKNOWN]: And like he's kind of got your his back turn to you and he's like, I've been studying here.
• 1:38:49
  [UNKNOWN]: This is a cool region.
• 1:38:51
  [UNKNOWN]: What do you want?
• 1:38:52
  [UNKNOWN]: And then he like turns around and you see his face and his professor wrote.
• 1:38:57
  [UNKNOWN]: something like that would be cool.
• 1:38:59
  [UNKNOWN]: No, that's crazy.
• 1:39:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I would love that.
• 1:39:01
  [UNKNOWN]: That's really cool.
• 1:39:01
  [UNKNOWN]: It's amazing.
• 1:39:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's a great idea.
• 1:39:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it also makes sense.
• 1:39:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, this is the 30th, you know, it won't technically be the 30th anniversary, but this is the 30th anniversary game.
• 1:39:12
  [UNKNOWN]: This is the, this is the video game for Pokemon.
• 1:39:16
  [UNKNOWN]: First, the 30th anniversary just happened.
• 1:39:20
  [UNKNOWN]: It is generally as the start of generation 10 is the first game on switch to I think yeah there are rumors saying that we're going to be seeing old characters, but I think it all makes sense this all makes sense for this game to shine a light and celebrate.
• 1:39:35
  [UNKNOWN]: all the stuff that's happened in the past.
• 1:39:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I love it.
• 1:39:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go.
• 1:39:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:39:38
  [UNKNOWN]: And the other thing I've brought this up on a past episode, but I really think honestly, this could be likely based on the sense that the theme of this region is kind of like vacation, because it seems like you're coming to this, there's that huge resort, for instance.
• 1:39:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I've speculated that maybe, and maybe this is
• 1:40:03
  [UNKNOWN]: But uh, can we get a fact check?
• 1:40:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
• 1:40:05
  [UNKNOWN]: But uh, there's the idea that like you are coming to this region on vacation.
• 1:40:10
  [UNKNOWN]: So like I think they will if that stands to be the case.
• 1:40:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I think they could bring they could literally bring anyone and say oh, they're on vacation.
• 1:40:18
  [UNKNOWN]: They came here to hang out and I think you could even see a thing where they do like a battle tree type of situation.
• 1:40:25
  [UNKNOWN]: But it's the battle.
• 1:40:26
  [UNKNOWN]: It's the battle resort, kind of like, we had to sit or the battle hotel where everybody could be like, the battle call the, yeah, where everything was okay, you know, yeah.
• 1:40:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, I honestly, I was like, sir, I'm like, obviously we've seen this in Sun and Moon, like with we literally had red and blue show up 20 years older.
• 1:40:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I think this is a lot.
• 1:40:49
  [UNKNOWN]: We're going to be seeing these characters come back 30 years later.
• 1:40:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I like that, but I also, I'd love to get like characters that have a little more going on.
• 1:41:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Not that bread and blue aren't huge in the frame.
• 1:41:04
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I know you're saying.
• 1:41:05
  [UNKNOWN]: But you know, yeah, like it's more interesting.
• 1:41:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and more yeah, but more like plot with them as well.
• 1:41:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Like oh, this is what I've been doing for this whole time.
• 1:41:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I guess blue did say some things, but read, you know, he sees the he's he's the silent protagonist.
• 1:41:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, the silent protagonist.
• 1:41:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like it would be cool to see.
• 1:41:24
  [UNKNOWN]: It would be cool to see silver.
• 1:41:26
  [UNKNOWN]: It would be cool to see like blue again, but he's now officially I poke him on professor.
• 1:41:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Like he took over for for for professor Oak.
• 1:41:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like he's got a role change where you've seen not just age progression, but like like personal progression.
• 1:41:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like what if we see like me from a version?
• 1:41:45
  [UNKNOWN]: People would lose their mind.
• 1:41:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean like a door or anything.
• 1:41:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, or even don't, you know?
• 1:41:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm just thinking about like popular characters, right?
• 1:41:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Like we could do.
• 1:41:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there was a few lot of that.
• 1:41:57
  [UNKNOWN]: That's true.
• 1:41:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Listen, okay.
• 1:41:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, I don't, okay.
• 1:42:00
  [UNKNOWN]: How about um silver if silver is in what are the people want to see bro if silver's in the game this might be the best game ever That's all I have to say if we get some more backstory on silver or maybe backstory like his life story Like yeah, I went to go do this after the last time we met there is yeah, that would be second and I'm gonna make a distinct specific request
• 1:42:22
  [UNKNOWN]: for the love of Archaeus.
• 1:42:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Bring back looker.
• 1:42:27
  [UNKNOWN]: He's big.
• 1:42:28
  [UNKNOWN]: No string back looker.
• 1:42:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I could kill us.
• 1:42:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, he should have been back in Z.A.
• 1:42:33
  [UNKNOWN]: It's ridiculous that he was back.
• 1:42:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, absolutely.
• 1:42:36
  [UNKNOWN]: He should have been in it.
• 1:42:37
  [UNKNOWN]: It's crazy that he wasn't in Galler because he was like he's a detective and he's based on like Doctor Who.
• 1:42:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, like, it's like, it's like, it's like, and homes too.
• 1:42:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like, he, uh, he's, he should have, he's, he definitely should have been present in multiple things.
• 1:42:54
  [UNKNOWN]: He also could have been in Legends Archaeus too.
• 1:42:57
  [UNKNOWN]: So, and they, are they saving him for something?
• 1:43:00
  [UNKNOWN]: maybe legends galer.
• 1:43:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know, but maybe we're back to legends galer back because he's a Sherlock Holmes man.
• 1:43:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Anyway, they should they should totally bring some characters in like fans fans they must know
• 1:43:16
  [UNKNOWN]: This is something fans talk about every single game.
• 1:43:18
  [UNKNOWN]: They're like, oh, yeah, let's bring back some characters and and like have them be each up and have a story.
• 1:43:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, what are some good Pokemon elite for members?
• 1:43:30
  [UNKNOWN]: There's so many.
• 1:43:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I guess I guess we're also getting like gym leaders and stuff.
• 1:43:34
  [UNKNOWN]: So that's kind of cool.
• 1:43:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's, I think that's a big, honestly, honestly, even seeing like look at the completely green, look at that comparison of Aaron and Bruce.
• 1:43:49
  [UNKNOWN]: That's so funny.
• 1:43:50
  [UNKNOWN]: That's a good thumbnail.
• 1:43:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Pokemon, the 10 easiest at least four members in the series.
• 1:43:54
  [UNKNOWN]: You go check out screen rants.
• 1:43:57
  [UNKNOWN]: That's hilarious.
• 1:43:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's real man.
• 1:43:58
  [UNKNOWN]: This is like starter Pokemon now, then versus now.
• 1:44:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Whatever.
• 1:44:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Aaron's cool.
• 1:44:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:44:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I know, honestly, he is.
• 1:44:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I just got his, his, his, his or her card.
• 1:44:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:44:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if you could just see this.
• 1:44:10
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not going to load, but it's a dope card.
• 1:44:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, there.
• 1:44:15
  [UNKNOWN]: No, you know what's cool about Aaron.
• 1:44:16
  [UNKNOWN]: And this, this is something, this goes back to what we talked about with like the lower building type of stuff we want to see.
• 1:44:22
  [UNKNOWN]: There's a mention of Aaron in either Diamond and Pearl or Black and White.
• 1:44:26
  [UNKNOWN]: It's one of the two, where it talks about how he used to be a gym leader, but then he became an elite for a member.
• 1:44:32
  [UNKNOWN]: So it gives backstory to his character that you don't get by, doesn't Black and White.
• 1:44:39
  [UNKNOWN]: It's in either Black and White or Diamond and Pearl because it's one of the, it's like a TV show you can watch and it mentions that about it.
• 1:44:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, that's cool.
• 1:44:47
  [UNKNOWN]: It's probably in Diamond and Pearl, but that's still sick.
• 1:44:50
  [UNKNOWN]: So it's it's it's it's it's a cool little detail that I think I would I want to see more of with yeah, I think another aspect of this.
• 1:44:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm noticing this shout out this some article on Reddit.
• 1:45:04
  [UNKNOWN]: But in this graphic, they're kind of pointing out and making you realize that like when you bring back characters up to the most current generation.
• 1:45:14
  [UNKNOWN]: There's also the opportunity to see how their team has changed over time because if you take something from generation three bring it up to generation ten There's so many there's over a thousand Pokemon from them to choose from now things that they just wouldn't make sense Originally when they had you know when they first made their debut
• 1:45:31
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think I guess this kind of brings me into another point or just something else, I think maybe this just compliments this and this is what I would like to see.
• 1:45:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I think something a true battle facility like the Pokemon World tournament would be literally an all-time great.
• 1:45:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I, to be honest with you, champions exist.
• 1:45:53
  [UNKNOWN]: put the battle, put the battle stuff over there.
• 1:45:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I actually exist.
• 1:45:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I want a character driven story, easter egg, ridden battle facility.
• 1:46:04
  [UNKNOWN]: So when I'm leveling up, I'm battling, I don't want to just battle NPCs.
• 1:46:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm, I want to battle characters.
• 1:46:10
  [UNKNOWN]: People have tried to do what I wanted in Z8.
• 1:46:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Imagine, imagine after every battle.
• 1:46:17
  [UNKNOWN]: they give you a little nugget of some kind.
• 1:46:19
  [UNKNOWN]: So you beat, let's say you beat, you beat, koga, you beat koga.
• 1:46:24
  [UNKNOWN]: And then he mentions like some, he just like gives you some throw away line about his grandchild.
• 1:46:30
  [UNKNOWN]: So now we know, koga has a grandchild.
• 1:46:32
  [UNKNOWN]: And then you go battle Watson and you, you know, Watson mentions that he's originally from Univer something.
• 1:46:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they just give you a little nuggets and then you would that would give you motivation to battle because now you're not just aimlessly battling your battling for those little tidbits of war like you want to hear what they have to say.
• 1:46:52
  [UNKNOWN]: which they did do that with Scarlett and Violet in the DLC.
• 1:46:56
  [UNKNOWN]: They had like that room where you talked to the older characters, but the characters in the DLC would give you information.
• 1:47:05
  [UNKNOWN]: And that was really fun and tons of people loved like that.
• 1:47:09
  [UNKNOWN]: But doing it was what was dumb.
• 1:47:12
  [UNKNOWN]: make them battles instead of, you know, like doing the barbecue things, you know, the side quests, the veg quests that you had to do to get there and to get that, because I didn't do any of them, and it just waited for the internet to show me instead, so that's just not even fun to me, at least.
• 1:47:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Speaking, speaking of barbecue, um,
• 1:47:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna say my hungry.
• 1:47:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna say something I don't want.
• 1:47:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want them to integrate some kind of silly food into the mechanics of the game.
• 1:47:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, no.
• 1:47:50
  [UNKNOWN]: This is a different video again.
• 1:47:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't worry.
• 1:47:52
  [UNKNOWN]: We got to say sandwiches.
• 1:47:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't worry.
• 1:47:55
  [UNKNOWN]: We don't want.
• 1:47:56
  [UNKNOWN]: They already did curry.
• 1:47:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe like a soup.
• 1:47:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll take a soup.
• 1:48:00
  [UNKNOWN]: A soup would be kind of fun.
• 1:48:01
  [UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
• 1:48:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, agree.
• 1:48:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I think what's really cool about the world tournament and being able to rebound or not even necessarily the world tournament in generation five, but like just what's cool about any sort of these battle facilities is that you get to see it's what we're saying, but instead of just seeing You know, instead of just seeing Jasmine on the beach of sunny shore city and she mentions, oh, hey, I'm here and I'm from Jodo.
• 1:48:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's cool.
• 1:48:47
  [UNKNOWN]: That was legendary
• 1:48:49
  [UNKNOWN]: in those legendary in Pearl version.
• 1:48:53
  [UNKNOWN]: But what's way cooler is being able to battle these trainers and see their team
• 1:49:00
  [UNKNOWN]: all maxed out at their full capacity this is what I wanted I think this is probably the thing that I missed that I was disappointed in the most about Z.A.
• 1:49:08
  [UNKNOWN]: was that the infinite royal didn't introduce all of these characters from the callos region right back into the game.
• 1:49:17
  [UNKNOWN]: You don't need to make a part of the story.
• 1:49:19
  [UNKNOWN]: You don't need to make a part of the plot.
• 1:49:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Let us there there are there are the elite trainers of the callos region.
• 1:49:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me fight them.
• 1:49:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, for us with lower heads, being able to also see like Sharon with his full team, right?
• 1:49:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Pick any of these, you know, play with his full team of six.
• 1:49:39
  [UNKNOWN]: It's so cool to see what their full maxed out teams would be.
• 1:49:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that's just like super underrated for sure.
• 1:49:46
  [UNKNOWN]: And for this and they did a version of this in with the battle tree.
• 1:49:51
  [UNKNOWN]: but in Sun and Moon.
• 1:49:52
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think the opportunity here, I'm like, go bigger, go home.
• 1:49:56
  [UNKNOWN]: It's generation 10, take every single gym leader and champion or whatever, lead four member, put them into a new bat and into this, into the system that we can just fight our way to, you know, I would play it.
• 1:50:09
  [UNKNOWN]: endlessly just to see all these cool trainers you know and and it's like so think you know all like and then bro this is the dream you get to see this is the interconnected world that you're talking about whoops the region that you're talking about we get to see canceled Pokemon we get to see rivals right
• 1:50:26
  [UNKNOWN]: And it's called wood dirt full team be in generation 10 would they have gen 9 pokemon would they have gen 7 pokemon we haven't seen this yet, but it exists and it's cool like with these guys on screen it's cool to see like the gen 5 leaders have like gen 1 pokemon gen 2 pokemon.
• 1:50:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, then likewise it would be really cool to see like a gen 3 character with a gen 10 pokemon or a gen 9 pokemon.
• 1:50:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Definitely.
• 1:50:53
  [UNKNOWN]: So good.
• 1:50:54
  [UNKNOWN]: What else do we have on our list?
• 1:50:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I have a few things.
• 1:50:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let's, let's, yeah, you can maybe start rattling them off.
• 1:51:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, the two main things are more gameplay things.
• 1:51:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Recently someone on Twitter did like a poll about like, should there be random encounters again?
• 1:51:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that I would prefer random encounters being back.
• 1:51:17
  [UNKNOWN]: And the poll actually the majority of people were like, we'd prefer like,
• 1:51:22
  [UNKNOWN]: random encounters, or actually, I'm sorry, I'm wrong.
• 1:51:25
  [UNKNOWN]: It wasn't random encounters.
• 1:51:26
  [UNKNOWN]: It was the like at first sight battles, like so like the trainers aren't just, it's kind of the same thing, but the trainers aren't just like randomly there and you can like go up to them and like choose to battle them instead if they see you when our eyes meet, we battle, you know, which is the same thing kind of for in the same vein as like you don't have to see all the Pokemon in the overworld,
• 1:51:50
  [UNKNOWN]: you know, you're running around in the grass and you get like surprise attacked by the Pokemon.
• 1:51:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I think we've lost the element of surprise a lot with recent modern games.
• 1:51:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, yeah, that's there.
• 1:52:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I can avoid it kind of totally.
• 1:52:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And then there's no that was there.
• 1:52:04
  [UNKNOWN]: You should be part of the game where you could you had to maneuver around a trainer and get to the Pokemon Center to heal your Pokemon or face them.
• 1:52:12
  [UNKNOWN]: with the beat up Pokemon that you have and maybe use potions and stuff like that to like, there was a challenge.
• 1:52:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Instead, you know, it's just like, I can do whatever I want.
• 1:52:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't even have to battle this guy.
• 1:52:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I've left like 50 trainers unbattled throughout this region.
• 1:52:26
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, I think that's gotta come back.
• 1:52:29
  [UNKNOWN]: No I think that makes sense.
• 1:52:30
  [UNKNOWN]: There's basically the Pokemon games have fractured.
• 1:52:33
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like the new games have come so far And ideally they continue to push forward and just become like their own thing and not be burdened by like the old stuff But there's still plenty of good things that could return.
• 1:52:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I think I think kind of what you're hitting on is like
• 1:52:50
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like it's so funny.
• 1:52:51
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like a paradox.
• 1:52:52
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like we want you we want like in our in Pokemon games in any game You want like a quality of life improvements, right?
• 1:53:01
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think with that people also recognize like what you're saying you also want friction you also want
• 1:53:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Challenges you want to be like challenge.
• 1:53:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you want?
• 1:53:09
  [UNKNOWN]: You want there to be stakes and so like yeah I think trainers like catching you off guard and wiping your team and kind of making you sweat a little bit That's kind of annoying and I feel like for some reason that's just like not a thing in Scarlett and Violet But like I think that's what makes adventuring Valuble because it's like it's rewarding, you know, yeah 100%
• 1:53:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Did it in Z.A.
• 1:53:32
  [UNKNOWN]: where if they see you, you know, you got, you got a battle done.
• 1:53:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:53:36
  [UNKNOWN]: That's a good point.
• 1:53:37
  [UNKNOWN]: So, so.
• 1:53:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's a good point of speaking of what we want in this game that Scarlet Violet didn't do.
• 1:53:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
• 1:53:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Give me.
• 1:53:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me go inside of.
• 1:53:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
• 1:53:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Let me go inside people's plastic.
• 1:53:55
  [UNKNOWN]: We should start stores.
• 1:53:57
  [UNKNOWN]: All that stuff.
• 1:53:58
  [UNKNOWN]: We all want that.
• 1:54:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:54:01
  [UNKNOWN]: But to an extent like it needs to be like good, right?
• 1:54:03
  [UNKNOWN]: It needs to be fleshed out.
• 1:54:04
  [UNKNOWN]: But at the same time like just the menu screens are just some of the worst things in gaming.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Like I do not I hate.
• 1:54:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Just let it be a box with nothing in it, at least I went inside there and didn't get like a menu screen like, yeah, yeah, I was I'm playing ZA this week, right.
• 1:54:24
  [UNKNOWN]: We talked about it on on a secret power or bonus episode, but I was inside the rust syndicate and I man, I was appreciating so much.
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  [UNKNOWN]: just how beautiful this interior building is.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It's so detailed and everything's placed so specifically because it's like this is and it feels lived in.
• 1:54:44
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like, okay, you know, this is someone's office.
• 1:54:47
  [UNKNOWN]: The museums, all of the inside locations within ZA, I think are like expertly crafted, right?
• 1:54:53
  [UNKNOWN]: The professors lab hotel Z, is it just hotel Z?
• 1:54:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, hotel Z. I wasn't sure if
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  [UNKNOWN]: And I think this is a good sign.
• 1:55:03
  [UNKNOWN]: This is a good sign for maybe where, like, where Gen 10 could be because most most of the game, I think is going to be outside.
• 1:55:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:55:11
  [UNKNOWN]: But it's like, yeah, these major hubs.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It's like just make them feel.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, I love spawning in my room in ZA.
• 1:55:17
  [UNKNOWN]: It reminds me of my Scotland trip when we're just like in this random hotel, you know, this hotel that was built like 1,000 years ago or whatever, not 1,000 years ago.
• 1:55:26
  [UNKNOWN]: But, you know,
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  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, I feel that.
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  [UNKNOWN]: That's good.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Explorable buildings and inexplorable trash cans.
• 1:55:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll say that.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I want to be able to like find stuff, you know?
• 1:55:42
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 1:55:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm looking at my list.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We said returning characters.
• 1:55:45
  [UNKNOWN]: We said new regional forums references to old regions.
• 1:55:48
  [UNKNOWN]: We said that already new Pokeballs.
• 1:55:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I wrote a little bit of lore and history in the environment.
• 1:55:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that's part of it as well with the side quests and yeah, what do you think I got one more, which is I Lost my train thought I want to see puzzles.
• 1:56:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, you did it.
• 1:56:09
  [UNKNOWN]: You did it.
• 1:56:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I really want to say you did it.
• 1:56:12
  [UNKNOWN]: So like puzzles for the gym the gym challenges like should have puzzles Totally, that's that's exactly what's going to be like videos.
• 1:56:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Many games would be awesome
• 1:56:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like I think there's some rumors about some some mini games that I remember in Scarlet and Violet when when they first Showed us like the flags of those teams star.
• 1:56:31
  [UNKNOWN]: We were like this is gonna be like a racing mini game something like that.
• 1:56:34
  [UNKNOWN]: And I would love to see like a fully fleshed out mini game even in Scarlet and Violet in the DLC and the Tiel mask They had that one mini game that was actually kind of fun and well put together It's just that not a lot of people played it and I guess it
• 1:56:48
  [UNKNOWN]: It didn't have the much longevity, but it was fun.
• 1:56:50
  [UNKNOWN]: There's like, ogre, ousting mini game.
• 1:56:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I think there's something to be said about having some fun little mini games in the game as well, that are like actually good, not like, you know, you hit a ball and it goes like this.
• 1:57:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like an olive ball.
• 1:57:05
  [UNKNOWN]: A big olive ball, and gosh, we've been eight non-scrawling by way too much in this, the Scrawling Violet was made so that we know what we don't want.
• 1:57:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, gym challenges like before the gym.
• 1:57:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's give me a puzzle.
• 1:57:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Give me give me the puzzles from team rocket bases, you know stuff like that's good You know this is an old self this is from an older list.
• 1:57:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think it's gonna happen new Pokemon type Are we gonna get a new Pokemon type in generation 10?
• 1:57:41
  [UNKNOWN]: That'll be amazing.
• 1:57:42
  [UNKNOWN]: If it's your wish list.
• 1:57:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, I want it, but I don't think it's gonna happen.
• 1:57:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I'd love it.
• 1:57:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I know a lot of people don't, but I would What do I use?
• 1:57:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I yeah, I don't I don't think it's gonna happen.
• 1:57:55
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 1:57:55
  [UNKNOWN]: That's fine.
• 1:57:57
  [UNKNOWN]: That's fair.
• 1:57:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and then oh dude level scaling.
• 1:58:02
  [UNKNOWN]: This is the last thing.
• 1:58:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, I want choice.
• 1:58:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I want choice on my adventure.
• 1:58:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Whatever the challenges are.
• 1:58:09
  [UNKNOWN]: uh, gyms, metals, titans, whatever, I want to choose not only, I want to be able to choose which path I take and that is responding and I want it to be responsive and dynamic.
• 1:58:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to be punished for going down one path and then when I return to the stuff that I missed in the beginning, I don't want those battles to now all of a sudden, you know,
• 1:58:39
  [UNKNOWN]: To be like 30 levels underneath my own level why not level those up and that's kind of aligned with what I was talking about it like being able to see every gym leader with their full with their full team, you know, if you want it if you want to fight the 8th gym first
• 1:58:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And there's a bunch of ways they could do this, and this could be a giant tangent.
• 1:59:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Because I think there's also something to be said for like, what is that eighth gym?
• 1:59:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe if you go fight them first, they're just always going to be level 50 at least, right?
• 1:59:10
  [UNKNOWN]: There's something to be said about that, so you can impose a challenge, right?
• 1:59:15
  [UNKNOWN]: But if I fight gyms four through eight, and then I go back to gyms one through three,
• 1:59:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I want those gyms to scale up to what gyms six seven or eight would have been.
• 1:59:28
  [UNKNOWN]: That's that's what I need the most.
• 1:59:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it up and it's one game.
• 1:59:32
  [UNKNOWN]: It is the biggest thing I think I didn't mention it because I didn't want to sound like a broken record because I think I've been saying this since Skull and Violet ever came out.
• 1:59:40
  [UNKNOWN]: It's just like this is the, this is the paramount thing that needs to be in this game.
• 1:59:45
  [UNKNOWN]: That's all I'll say because I've said it a million times.
• 1:59:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I agree with everything that we need level scaling.
• 1:59:52
  [UNKNOWN]: The only tricky thing about it would be determining their teams for when you battle them.
• 1:59:58
  [UNKNOWN]: But everything else, you say, like, what would the variable be?
• 2:00:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it would just be the badge.
• 2:00:05
  [UNKNOWN]: How many bags?
• 2:00:06
  [UNKNOWN]: No.
• 2:00:06
  [UNKNOWN]: No.
• 2:00:06
  [UNKNOWN]: No.
• 2:00:07
  [UNKNOWN]: No.
• 2:00:07
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean like so like in terms of in terms of like facilitating it, it would be a piece of cake because you could basically just say like, okay, this is the range of everything.
• 2:00:18
  [UNKNOWN]: This is what the wild Pokemon are at.
• 2:00:20
  [UNKNOWN]: These are what trainers are at.
• 2:00:21
  [UNKNOWN]: This is what gyms are at based on how many.
• 2:00:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, you're saying the the end what I was saying.
• 2:00:27
  [UNKNOWN]: What what I was saying that the I think the trickiest part about this.
• 2:00:31
  [UNKNOWN]: would be determining each gym leaders and each like trainers teams based on where you're at because like if you battle the eighth gym leader first he's going to have a different team obviously if you battle in fourth he's going to have a different team if you battle in eighth he's going to have an different team so I think that would be the biggest workload is figuring them that out
• 2:00:54
  [UNKNOWN]: but but that's almost like creative like I feel like I could do that it it is create you know, and then it would just be like if you have eight badges this like Jim Jim one whatever classified as whatever's classified as Jim one
• 2:01:07
  [UNKNOWN]: They're up to this level and their team, you know, they just have a full team.
• 2:01:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Like you can just establish that stuff ahead of time.
• 2:01:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think I don't think that would be a problem, but I think it does get complicated like you're saying when you're talking about like wild Pokemon or other trainers.
• 2:01:26
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't think, yeah, I don't think the level, the actual level scaling is hard because like you said, you just tied it to the gym matches.
• 2:01:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:01:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I think the trainers teams become strict because that's what you have to manually go.
• 2:01:41
  [UNKNOWN]: No, that's true.
• 2:01:42
  [UNKNOWN]: No, that's true.
• 2:01:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Because then you have to make like, that's true.
• 2:01:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Because then you have to make like, yeah, you have to make eight different variables for every single trait for like a thousand trainers.
• 2:01:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:01:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Which is eight thousand different trainers or whatever.
• 2:01:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's kind of insane.
• 2:02:01
  [UNKNOWN]: But it should.
• 2:02:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I would love it some form.
• 2:02:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:02:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it should.
• 2:02:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
• 2:02:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
• 2:02:05
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