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EXCLUSIVE FORMER PRINCE ANDREW’S ENDGAME: ABDICATION SHOCKWAVES, FERGIE’S LOYALTY TESTED — AND THE MYSTERY OF WHO’S PAYING HIS BILLS · Naughty But Nice with Rob Shuter

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  Speaker 1: Another Royal show today is lots and lots of breaking news.
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  Speaker 1: These are all exclusives. You're not going to hear them
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  Speaker 1: anywhere else. So the Royals have cut off andrew no visits,
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  Speaker 1: no legal funding, so the drawbit Bridge is officially gone up.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. Palace insiders tell me the Royal family have
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  Speaker 1: no plans to visit Andrews. So he's now been released
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  Speaker 1: from jail late last night British time. He was released.
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  Speaker 1: He went home, but the Royals are not going to
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  Speaker 1: be visiting him, and also too, they're not going to
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  Speaker 1: be paying a penny towards his mounting legal bills. This
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  Speaker 1: gets expensive. This trial is going to be complicated. He's
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  Speaker 1: going to want the best people in the world. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you have to pay for them, and the Royal family
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  Speaker 1: they are not paying. One well placed source tells me
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  Speaker 1: quote there will be no public show of support, and
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  Speaker 1: privately the message is the same. He's on his own.
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  Speaker 1: So Andrew, who was arrested on suspicion of misconduct in
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  Speaker 1: public office, could face a life in prison if convicted.
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  Speaker 1: But according to multiple sources, the firm the royal family
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  Speaker 1: has decided this is where their loyalty ends. The monarchy
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  Speaker 1: cannot afford another scandal. Now the institution must come first
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  Speaker 1: and its survival has to be a priority this time.
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  Speaker 1: I'm told there is no safety net for the disgraced
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  Speaker 1: former prince quote, no visits, no financial rescue, and no
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  Speaker 1: special treatment. He was warned. Now he has to deal
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  Speaker 1: with this himself. Even those who were once closely in
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  Speaker 1: his corner, like his ex wife Sarah Ferguson, they're focused
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  Speaker 1: on self preservation as the legal storm intensifies. In terms
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  Speaker 1: of royal news here this is as cold as it gets.
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  Speaker 1: The message from the palace is the Crown survives. Individuals
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  Speaker 1: do not talking our Fergie. Lots of people are asking
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  Speaker 1: will she be charged? My sources are telling me very
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  Speaker 1: unlikely that she will be charged if she cooperates. Good Fergie,
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  Speaker 1: flip oh, the royal drama took her drum twist, and
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  Speaker 1: this time Sarah Ferguson has already had her say. Multiple
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  Speaker 1: high level legal sources are telling me that the Duchess
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  Speaker 1: of York has already been questioned by the police in
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  Speaker 1: connection with her ex husband, Prince Andrew, and is now
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  Speaker 1: considered a key witness in the explosive misconduct investigation. He
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  Speaker 1: is the bombshell. Insider say Fergie is unlikely to face charges,
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  Speaker 1: especially if she continues to cooperate. One inside of Tommy quote,
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  Speaker 1: She's not the target. Andrew was always the big fish.
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  Speaker 1: They always want to get the one at the top,
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  Speaker 1: not those below them. In fact, they use the people
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  Speaker 1: below to get the one on top, and that's what
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  Speaker 1: they seem to be doing here. So she's not the target.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew was always the big fish. Investigators wanted him, Sarah
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  Speaker 1: has informed, and that makes her very valuable. Andrew was
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  Speaker 1: arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office, tired to
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  Speaker 1: allegations involving convicted sex offender. We can't say that enough
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  Speaker 1: convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. If convicted, Andrew Cap face
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  Speaker 1: a life in prison. But sources close to the case
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  Speaker 1: tell me that Fergie's cooperation it might be pivotal, and
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  Speaker 1: that could come with protection. Immunity is absolutely on the table.
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  Speaker 1: If she provides substantial assistance, she walks. Now. The irony
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  Speaker 1: is that Fergie has spent the last decade defending her
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  Speaker 1: former husband, standing by him when even the most loyal
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  Speaker 1: have walked away. Now, behind palace walls, she may be
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  Speaker 1: helping authorities build a case that finally bring him down.
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  Speaker 1: Friends insist she's focused on protecting her daughters and herself.
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  Speaker 1: Let's be clear. One source adds, she knows where to
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  Speaker 1: draw the lie in and she knows survival is everything
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  Speaker 1: in royal scandals. Loyalty is currency, but so is self preservation.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think, well, Fergie flip? Will she tell all?
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  Speaker 1: She knows everything? Big news that is bubbling up, and
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  Speaker 1: everybody keeps asking me this, I love your text, your
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  Speaker 1: emails or your dms. Will King Charles abdicate? Is King
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  Speaker 1: Charles going to abd Kate. No, absolutely not. The King
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  Speaker 1: has zero intention of stepping down. So, despite the headlines
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  Speaker 1: around Andrew's arrest, palace insiders tell me that they had
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  Speaker 1: an all day meeting, an emergency meeting within the palace.
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  Speaker 1: Senior aids. Senior members of the family, including the Queen,
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  Speaker 1: Queen Camilla, Prince William, Catherine, Princess of Wales, Princess Anne,
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  Speaker 1: and Edward, have all been consulted and they all stand
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  Speaker 1: behind the King. There is zero discussion of his abdication.
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  Speaker 1: The King is not resigning. That is absolutely not on
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  Speaker 1: the table. So while pressure mounts and it really intensifies
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  Speaker 1: in the wake of Andrew's arrest on suspicion of misconduct
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  Speaker 1: in public office, insiders say, insider say that the royals
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  Speaker 1: are focused on containment, not pushing out the King. One
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  Speaker 1: person tells me quote, this is Andrew's legal situation. The
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  Speaker 1: King has already stripped him of his titles and his
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  Speaker 1: duties and has moved on. Another source tells me that
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  Speaker 1: William is standing by his dad. The family believe stability
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  Speaker 1: right now is paramount. Abdication would create more chaos, not less.
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  Speaker 1: That's true. Charles has publicly stated that quote, the law
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  Speaker 1: must take its cause, and insiders say that that remains
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  Speaker 1: the strategy to cooperate fully to protect the crown and
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  Speaker 1: to separate Andrew's person or legal jeopardy from the monarchy
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  Speaker 1: itself for now. And the message inside the palace walls
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  Speaker 1: is pretty clear. The King stays, so no abdication from
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  Speaker 1: the king. This story was so bizarre. I've got to
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  Speaker 1: tell you this. I couldn't believe it when I heard it.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew was so clueless. He had no idea he was
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  Speaker 1: about to be arrested. And we know that because he
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  Speaker 1: was demanding the king ship his favorite horses to his
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  Speaker 1: new Norfolk hide away. So before the dramatic arrest, Andrew
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  Speaker 1: was already making specific demands about his future involving one
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  Speaker 1: of his beloved horses. Sources tell me that in the
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  Speaker 1: days leading up to his move, Andrew requested that one
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  Speaker 1: of his favorite horses be relocated so that he could
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  Speaker 1: remain close to the animal. At the time, he was
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  Speaker 1: preparing for a quieter life in the country and had
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  Speaker 1: no gave no indication that he was giving up the
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  Speaker 1: routines that defined him. He didn't want to lose his comforts.
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  Speaker 1: One source ads, and the horses are part of his identity.
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  Speaker 1: A request created an immediate logistical and financial dilemma for
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  Speaker 1: the king. So transporting private horses a stable of private
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  Speaker 1: horses is not simple. It involves staff and grooms and
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  Speaker 1: security and long term upkeep, and it's a significant commitment.
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  Speaker 1: Another insider added, Even before everything exploded, and it did,
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  Speaker 1: there were concerns about how much all this would cost.
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  Speaker 1: Now only racehorse sins are actually stabled at Sangringham. Only
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  Speaker 1: race horses are there, and they are not suited. They're
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  Speaker 1: not suited for personal leisure riding, which is what Andrew
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  Speaker 1: wants to do. So meeting the request would have required
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  Speaker 1: restructuring existing arrangements and potentially additional funding. Then came the arrest.
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  Speaker 1: Now the future of those plans and those horses remain uncertain.
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  Speaker 1: This story is so interesting. So once again, Andrew has
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  Speaker 1: not been charged with any sexual misconduct. This is about
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  Speaker 1: what happened in the Foreign Office. And so Andrew had
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  Speaker 1: a nickname amongst diplomats that privately mocked him. They called
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  Speaker 1: him Wally Windsor let me explain. So before his arrest,
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  Speaker 1: Andrew had a nickname inside the British Foreign Office and
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  Speaker 1: it was not flattering. Privately, he was called quote Wally
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  Speaker 1: winsor now Wally be is British slang. You might not
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  Speaker 1: know his word. It means somebody foolishepped at buffo and
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  Speaker 1: lacking common sense, and he was called that behind closed doors.
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  Speaker 1: So for nearly a decade, that's a long time he
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  Speaker 1: was the UK Trade Envoy. He traveled extensively private around
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  Speaker 1: the world on taxpayers money, and he often set off
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  Speaker 1: along bells. He had repeated contact with some of the
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  Speaker 1: most controversial political figures, wealthy men, alla gards, real strong
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  Speaker 1: men around the world, and the Diplomatic Cause Corp was
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  Speaker 1: really uneasy about this. He met with some really shady,
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  Speaker 1: shady people, the son of Munday daddy, oh my goodness,
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  Speaker 1: in Libya, lots of other people. He also too, sold
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  Speaker 1: a home to a very shade the Kazakhstan longtime president friend,
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  Speaker 1: and that was something that people said, why is he
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  Speaker 1: buying he's home and paying a lot more than the
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  Speaker 1: asking price. Criticism wasn't just limited to diplomats. No One
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  Speaker 1: senior Conservative figure described Andrew as having no mental activity upstairs.
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  Speaker 1: Wally Windsor, that's what they called him. It was not
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  Speaker 1: just a joke. Now we know it was a warning. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: quickly before we go to break. So many people are
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  Speaker 1: asking me why did Andrew cling to Epstein? Was it
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  Speaker 1: really just sex or was it more about ego and escape?
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  Speaker 1: Let me explain. So the connection between the former Prince
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  Speaker 1: Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein has been reduced to disgusting, scandalous headlines,
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  Speaker 1: which we should talk about. What Epstein did is disgusting.
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  Speaker 1: He was an absolute monster, but people who observed their
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  Speaker 1: dynamic says the real bond was psychological and was far
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  Speaker 1: more calculating. Epstein didn't just collect powerful friends, No, he
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  Speaker 1: studied them. He had a predator's instinct for insecurity. He
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  Speaker 1: spotted it, he fed upon it, and then he quietly
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  Speaker 1: used it with Andrew. Insider say that Jeffrey recognized the
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  Speaker 1: man who was perpetually bruised by the hierarchy. He was
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  Speaker 1: the second son, he was out ranked at birth, and
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  Speaker 1: he was forever orbiting the crown and not getting a
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  Speaker 1: ride and around but never actually wearing it. So us
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  Speaker 1: is tell me quote Epstein made Andrew feel like the
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  Speaker 1: main character instead of an understudy. That's interesting for Andrew.
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  Speaker 1: That was intoxicating, what a vain, vain man in New York,
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  Speaker 1: on private planes, in rooms thick with money and influence
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  Speaker 1: and young women. Andrew wasn't simply a royal dependent. He
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  Speaker 1: was presented as a gold global player, moving with billionaires,
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  Speaker 1: talking deals, basking in attention that had nothing to do
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  Speaker 1: with real cutting or palace protocol or kissing babies. One
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  Speaker 1: insider tells me, Jeffrey sold him a fantasy, a world
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  Speaker 1: where Andrew wasn't living off royal allowance but operating on
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  Speaker 1: his own terms. That was the connection, including girls too.
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  Speaker 1: We shouldn't underestimate that Epstein understood that Andrew had resentment,
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  Speaker 1: a lifetime burden boo woo of being the spare. He
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  Speaker 1: could be flipped. He could be flipped by ambition, by attention,
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  Speaker 1: by being flattered. And that's what Jeffrey did. Jeffrey knew
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  Speaker 1: how to make people feel powerful, and he made Andrew
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  Speaker 1: feel as if he was literally a king. It explains
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  Speaker 1: an enormous amount, doesn't it. I couldn't just understand this relationship.
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  Speaker 1: I know sex, I know power was all involved, but
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  Speaker 1: two or so two was ego. Andrew had an enormous
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  Speaker 1: ego in Britain. He was a prince app yes, but
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  Speaker 1: he was never gonna be king here in America. When
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  Speaker 1: he traveled around the world, he felt like the most
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  Speaker 1: important person in the world, which he didn't back home.
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  Speaker 1: Good grief. This story is going on and on. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna take a quick break and we will be right back.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Naughty vin Nishe I'm your host
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  Speaker 1: from Shooter. Today is an exclusive all about the royal.
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  Speaker 1: Breaking news is everywhere everywhere. We've got exclusives here that
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  Speaker 1: you're not gonna hear anywhere else. One of the big questions,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a really sad question for me, it's really
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  Speaker 1: really troubling, is how did Queen Elizabeth, Elizabeth the iond
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  Speaker 1: shield her son, keep him safe. Courtiers closed ranks around
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  Speaker 1: her favorite son, as warnings did mat We've gotta talk
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  Speaker 1: the truth here. We can't just brush this under the carpet.
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  Speaker 1: For years, alarms about Prince Andrew Ecker through government offices,
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  Speaker 1: but they died there inside the palace. A protective force
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  Speaker 1: field was around Andrew, and that field was called Queen Elizabeth.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew wasn't just another royal to many who served at court.
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  Speaker 1: He was the Queen's favorite son, and that mattered. Senior
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  Speaker 1: officials from the Foreign Office were increasingly uneven, uneasy, really
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  Speaker 1: uneasy about his globe truppting and his controversial associations. But
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  Speaker 1: according to many insiders, there was an unspoken rule, never
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  Speaker 1: mention it to the monarch. If you put her in
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  Speaker 1: a corner when it comes to her favorite son, this
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  Speaker 1: is not going to end well. And so many many
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  Speaker 1: times I'm told information never got to the Queen. The
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  Speaker 1: one thing we can say here is that Queen didn't
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  Speaker 1: have all the information. She had all the love in
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  Speaker 1: the world. It was her mommy. She loved, loved this
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  Speaker 1: awful human being, but he was still her son. It
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  Speaker 1: is heartbreaking to think what the Queen went through, what
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  Speaker 1: she suffered through as she wouldn't listen. She was really
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  Speaker 1: blind when it came to Andrew. This was a woman
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  Speaker 1: who really valued duty, duty amongst everything else. It was
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  Speaker 1: so important to her the monarchy, duty service. But when
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  Speaker 1: it came to Andrew, he was her achilles heel, and
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  Speaker 1: he knew it, and he played upon it, and he
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  Speaker 1: knew Mommy would always rescue him, and she always did.
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  Speaker 1: We're finally getting the first look of Andrew leaving prison
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  Speaker 1: and he looks absolutely ghastly. There are photographs of him
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  Speaker 1: in the back of the car Thursday after he was
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  Speaker 1: arrested as he left jail. The disgraced former royal is
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  Speaker 1: in the backseat looking shell shocked. My insiders tell me
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  Speaker 1: that the morning of his arrest he was quite cocky.
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  Speaker 1: He was shocked, he was surprised, but he wasn't upset.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew thought at least yesterday morning, that he was going
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  Speaker 1: to win this, that he was going to fight it,
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  Speaker 1: that he was going to beat it. Well, after a
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  Speaker 1: day in jail, after a day locked in jail, maybe
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  Speaker 1: he's feeling different now. But lots of questions remay and
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  Speaker 1: this legal process is going to be really, really expensive.
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  Speaker 1: And if we know one thing from the emails with
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, Andrew wanted money. He didn't have money. Now
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  Speaker 1: boo who we would kill for the money that he
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  Speaker 1: has in his bank account. But it's not the money
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  Speaker 1: to let him continue living like a prince. No, those
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  Speaker 1: days are gone. If the family holds tight, and I
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  Speaker 1: am assured by all my sources that they absolutely will.
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  Speaker 1: If they hold tight, if they hold really, really, really tight,
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  Speaker 1: they are not going to help him. They're not going
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  Speaker 1: to visit him, they're not going to talk about him,
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  Speaker 1: and they're certainly not going to pay. Why would they
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  Speaker 1: pay here, Charles King, Charles gave him a million pounds
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  Speaker 1: to settle his lawsuit with the Junior Jewfree. He paid
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  Speaker 1: ultimately twelve million, which he didn't have. He got it
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  Speaker 1: from his mom. He got it now we know from
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  Speaker 1: his brother. So where's the money going to come for
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  Speaker 1: this defense? Where's it going to be? It is absolutely shocking.
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  Speaker 1: This is something that we're certainly going to keep an
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  Speaker 1: eye on. They always say, don't they in that amazing
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  Speaker 1: movie what's it called All the President's Men? Follow the Money,
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  Speaker 1: Follow the Money? Well, here we're going to be looking
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  Speaker 1: at this because Andrew needs a lot of money to
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  Speaker 1: pay these legal bills. He is out of custody, he
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  Speaker 1: is back home. He is shell shocked, and he is
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  Speaker 1: more isolated than he has ever been in his life.
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  Speaker 1: The one hero of this really ugly, ugly story, the
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  Speaker 1: one person though, that I think history is going to
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  Speaker 1: remember really fondly and be really really proud of, is
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  Speaker 1: Prince William. Prince William despises his uncle Andrew. He despises
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  Speaker 1: not only who he is, but what he is, not
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  Speaker 1: just to the monarchy. No, that's not what he despises.
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  Speaker 1: He despises what he did to innocent, vulnerable people, particularly
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  Speaker 1: young women. Let's be clear. He abused, he is accused
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  Speaker 1: of abusing young women, and that's not what he's been
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  Speaker 1: charged with. No, that's the lawsuit he settled. Now it's
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  Speaker 1: about state secrets and what did he do and who
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  Speaker 1: did he give them to. That's what he's going to
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  Speaker 1: be charged with. Let me remind you that El Capone
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  Speaker 1: went to jail for tax evasion, not for murder, not
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  Speaker 1: for being a gangster, for tax evasion. It is very,
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  Speaker 1: very hard to prove a sexual a sexual assault case.
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  Speaker 1: It's so difficult now, particularly because the victim, Virginia Drew three,
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  Speaker 1: is dead. She's gone. May she rest in peace. So
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be hard to prove. This is going
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  Speaker 1: to be easier. Did he trade secrets? Did he have
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  Speaker 1: inside a knowledge that he gave to Jeffrey Epstein who
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  Speaker 1: gave it to Goodness knows who the Chinese? The Russian
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  Speaker 1: Israels who knows where that information went? We can figure
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  Speaker 1: this out by looking at his computer at his phone.
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  Speaker 1: That's why they raided all his properties. So as they
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  Speaker 1: arrested him at eight a m. On Thursday morning, they
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  Speaker 1: also went into three different homes and seized everything computers,
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  Speaker 1: cell phones. They will have the evidence there and that ultimately,
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  Speaker 1: maybe even with the help of Fergie, who certainly knows everything,
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  Speaker 1: and zero help from his brother the King, and certainly
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  Speaker 1: zero from Prince William, maybe finally there's going to be
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  Speaker 1: justice in the case of Prince Andrew. Hey, let me
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  Speaker 1: know what you think and remember naughties. Let's end with
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  Speaker 1: our tagline. If you're going to be naughty, you've got
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  Speaker 1: to be let me hear you. Nice you Sam Marvelous,
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  Speaker 1: have a great weekend, but nice with Rah