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FFOD344 : More Years in the Woods · Fist Full of Dirt

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SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Fistful of Dirt, the official podcast of Mossy Oak Properties.
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SPEAKER_00: Whether you own a small farm, lease land, or just love hanging in your backyard.
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SPEAKER_00: We're all about the outdoor lifestyle and how to get the most from your time in God's great outdoors.
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SPEAKER_00: Now here's your host, Ronnie Cuz Strickland.
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SPEAKER_04: Sem I Live from the Camo Cave.
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SPEAKER_04: And the heat just keeps on coming.
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SPEAKER_05: You see me have my weather app open.
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SPEAKER_04: I'm just like you know, Lauren suggested we go get a um a climatologist, not a weather guy to talk about El Nino.
0:40
SPEAKER_04: And I said, you know what?
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SPEAKER_04: I'm just tired of talking about it.
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SPEAKER_08: But those of you who don't have español, El Nino Hispanic for the Nino.
1:03
SPEAKER_04: Because it's still a hundred degrees every day.
1:06
SPEAKER_04: 98, 97, 99.
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SPEAKER_05: Well, and I know they probably don't want to go on record because I follow 90% of the things I follow on YouTube, you'd be so surprised.
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SPEAKER_05: But there's a huge sector of weather people.
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SPEAKER_04: Well, I follow most, a lot of them.
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SPEAKER_05: They're so good.
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SPEAKER_05: Ryan Hall, Weather Direct, like there's a bunch.
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SPEAKER_05: But their opinions have changed and fluctuated on this El Nino a a dozen times.
1:32
SPEAKER_05: And I'm getting frustrated.
1:33
SPEAKER_05: I'm like, stop uploading content until you can nail something down.
1:38
SPEAKER_04: It's everything's a uh clickbait thumbnail.
1:42
SPEAKER_05: It is.
1:42
SPEAKER_04: It's like talking to a biologist.
1:44
SPEAKER_04: They always start their answer.
1:45
SPEAKER_04: Well, it depends.
1:46
SPEAKER_04: That's what they start their answer with.
1:49
SPEAKER_04: And uh I still hadn't planted a food plot.
1:52
SPEAKER_04: And man, I was close.
1:54
SPEAKER_04: I was close because we had a there was one day coming and had 60%, but it wasn't going to be very much.
2:02
SPEAKER_04: So I tested, I you know, I I sent Toxie a text because man, nobody watches it closer than him.
2:08
SPEAKER_04: I said, You think it's worth it to roll the dice with this upcoming stuff and all that?
2:14
SPEAKER_04: And he just sent back, I w I would wait.
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SPEAKER_04: He's so big on planting your seed and then immediately getting rained on.
2:22
SPEAKER_04: He said that nothing tops that.
2:24
SPEAKER_04: And he's right.
2:25
SPEAKER_05: And it just wasn't guaranteed enough.
2:27
SPEAKER_04: And even even though I'm drilling mine, the worst thing that can happen is when you put a seed out there and you get a tenth of an inch.
2:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: Which will swell the seed.
2:37
SPEAKER_04: But not and won't be anything left for it to grow.
2:40
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's like that's the worst.
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SPEAKER_04: So I'm waiting.
2:43
SPEAKER_04: And of course we're in Mississippi.
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SPEAKER_04: It's like, man, I planted some food pots right before Thanksgiving.
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SPEAKER_04: You know.
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SPEAKER_04: But man, it's it's hard to put that off, but it is what it is.
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SPEAKER_05: Lesson in patience.
2:55
SPEAKER_04: I just want to get, you know, last week we were visiting with Kevin Burleson, and I always said, Man, if I didn't have grandkids, I I would be living in Texas.
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SPEAKER_06: I love it too.
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SPEAKER_04: I just love it out there.
3:06
SPEAKER_04: And we're and he don't have to deal with food plots because you just can't grow them out there.
3:10
SPEAKER_04: It's rocks and cactus and all that.
3:12
SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, that'd be pretty cool to me, keeping up with a place, not having to do all that and come up with different stuff.
3:18
SPEAKER_04: And I am absolutely leaning toward making just a solo trip out there this year.
3:25
SPEAKER_04: I have thought about it and thought about it.
3:26
SPEAKER_04: I've never deer hunted out there.
3:28
SPEAKER_04: I filmed some deer hunts.
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SPEAKER_04: Right.
3:29
SPEAKER_04: I always go to the turkey season, but he's like, cuz you ought to come.
3:32
SPEAKER_04: He starts sending me all these trail camera pictures, and I'm like, man, I probably ought to go out there.
3:38
SPEAKER_05: As many times as you filmed hunts, have there been occasions where you're like, Man, if that had been me, I'd have done this, I'd have done I'd have killed that deer because I would have done X, Y, or Z.
3:48
SPEAKER_04: That used to happen sometimes on Hunting the Country, because we didn't, you know, we didn't go film a host.
3:53
SPEAKER_04: Right.
3:53
SPEAKER_04: Uh, but you know, my my deal was always just, you know, let them do their thing.
3:58
SPEAKER_04: A good a good videographer to me was like an umpire.
4:02
SPEAKER_04: If he does a good job, you never knew he was even there.
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SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
4:05
SPEAKER_04: That's kind of how I roll.
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SPEAKER_04: So speaking of bow hunting, we just got so many downloads and so many comments from Dr.
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SPEAKER_04: Warren Strickland.
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SPEAKER_04: And I think it's because we reintroduced him to a lot of people.
4:19
SPEAKER_06: Right.
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SPEAKER_04: I've been knowing him forever, but not a lot of people, you know, especially young people, knew about him and how unbelievable his accomplishments are.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: And it's like, golly, you know, and I don't care who you follow, you know, who your main influencer is now in the bow hunting, working out, and all that kind of there's a lot of great ones out there.
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SPEAKER_04: Nothing but admiration for any of them.
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SPEAKER_04: But before all that, Warren Strickland was just doing it.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: No sponsors, on his own time, figuring it out, and just doing it because he loved that was so impressive.
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SPEAKER_05: I only knew the hunting side because growing up around you and watching him on Hunt in the Country and everything.
5:00
SPEAKER_05: How shocked.
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SPEAKER_05: All the comments we got on the Fistful of Dirt post and your personal post.
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SPEAKER_05: That was my doctor.
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SPEAKER_05: He's the best man ever.
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SPEAKER_05: He treated my son, he treated the there were so many patients, and I was like, I didn't even think about that, his part of that world, potentially listening to that episode.
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SPEAKER_05: My brain was all hunting related, but there were so many people whose lives he had touched as a doctor that had just wonderful things to say.
5:29
SPEAKER_04: And it was kind of an afterthought when we got through, and I was like, hey, can we do one on heart health?
5:35
SPEAKER_04: And he's like, Sure we can.
5:36
SPEAKER_04: And I was like, okay.
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SPEAKER_04: And I didn't really have a lot of stuff prepared.
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SPEAKER_04: I told him one of the most downloadings we ever did was from David Allen, Dr.
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SPEAKER_04: David Allen.
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SPEAKER_05: What can ate at the gas station?
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SPEAKER_04: He loved it.
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SPEAKER_04: And he just laughed about that.
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SPEAKER_04: And and and Dr.
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SPEAKER_04: Warren's one of them people that'll talk to you in layman's terms, but he was and I, you know, I was like, I got a lot of questions, so he's got a lot of good advice too.
6:03
SPEAKER_04: And uh he's not one of these stuffy guys who just like eats kale and you know, raw care.
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SPEAKER_04: We went to lunch while we was over there and he had him a chicken fried steak and a glass of sweet tea.
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SPEAKER_04: I'm like, and he's in better shape at whatever he's gotta be in his mid-sixties, and he looks like he's 40, but yeah, he's aging well for sure.
6:24
SPEAKER_05: I'll take his advice.
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SPEAKER_04: Nothing nothing like hey, general health.
6:27
SPEAKER_04: I know it's fixing to be hunting season.
6:29
SPEAKER_04: This may help you.
6:30
SPEAKER_04: Pack your backpacks, it may keep you from grabbing at them little Debbies.
6:34
SPEAKER_04: Get you an apple or something.
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SPEAKER_05: That's a whole culture within the hunting world, the little Debbie people.
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SPEAKER_04: He's in Huntsville, but he uh he's such a smart guy and he's got some great stuff.
6:54
SPEAKER_04: And if this in any way at all motivates you to swap your honey bun, you know, for something that's a little better, that's okay.
7:02
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I had to swap mine.
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SPEAKER_04: Now I will sneak one from time to time, but it's very rare.
7:08
SPEAKER_04: It's got to be a treat.
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SPEAKER_04: It can't be one of your staple idols.
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SPEAKER_04: So anyway, let's go visit what Dr.
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SPEAKER_04: Warren Strickland from the cardiologist side and see what he's got advice he's gotten.
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SPEAKER_04: We talked in terms of hunting and what you can do, so this ought to be interesting.
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SPEAKER_03: No.
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SPEAKER_03: Uh I my my job is, you know, it's basically uh saving lives.
8:38
SPEAKER_04: That's it.
8:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
8:40
SPEAKER_04: Doing God's work.
8:41
SPEAKER_04: And uh one of the last questions I'm gonna make you think of a special patient or a special thing, some divine, and I bet you've seen a lot of it, but we gotta start at the beginning, or I'm gonna get in all kind of trouble.
8:52
SPEAKER_04: And I and I want to know, was medicine always a goal?
8:57
SPEAKER_04: Is it something that because you said your your parents were big educators and that college was in your Oh yeah.
9:03
SPEAKER_03: I I didn't have a I didn't have an option, I was going to college.
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SPEAKER_04: But when did when did medicine come into play?
9:08
SPEAKER_03: You know, that's a great question, cuz when I was seven or eight years old, and you would ask my buddies what they wanted to do, they wanted to be football players, they wanted to be policemen, they wanted to be firemen.
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SPEAKER_03: I always said I wanted to be a doctor.
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SPEAKER_03: Really?
9:24
SPEAKER_03: I knew from the very beginning that that's what I wanted to do.
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SPEAKER_03: And there was no doubt in my mind that that was my life uh ambition and that's where I would wind up.
9:39
SPEAKER_04: No, nothing else on the side, never had another thrall thought or anything.
9:43
SPEAKER_03: Nope.
9:44
SPEAKER_04: Tell me to this point, maybe not to this point, how much education was involved, how many years, all I want to know everywhere you went to school and how long it took.
9:54
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so uh out of high school, uh so I started uh college at the University of Central Arkansas.
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SPEAKER_03: I was there for three years.
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SPEAKER_03: Um and I finished finished there in three years, got in medical school, took a year off to bow hunt.
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SPEAKER_03: Yes, to bow, that's right.
10:17
SPEAKER_03: Took a year off.
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SPEAKER_03: Uh so that's three years.
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SPEAKER_03: Uh medical school was four years.
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SPEAKER_03: And that was at the University of Arkansas in Little Rock.
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SPEAKER_03: It was a great experience, a fantastic, fantastic school, great medical education.
10:32
SPEAKER_03: Um from there I went to Tulane in New Orleans.
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SPEAKER_03: Uh I did internal medicine there, another great experience uh Tulane.
10:40
SPEAKER_03: And you know, the hunting and fishing was great in southern Louisiana, and a lot of my patients just, you know, continue to uh introduce me to some of the you know the finer hunting and fishing in southern Louisiana.
10:54
SPEAKER_03: It's different down there.
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SPEAKER_03: It is definitely different.
10:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
10:57
SPEAKER_03: So is that food?
10:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, oh yeah.
10:59
SPEAKER_03: So I was there for uh for three years.
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SPEAKER_03: Then I went to the public health service.
11:03
SPEAKER_03: I I was in the Indian Health Service uh for two years in Lawton, Oklahoma.
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SPEAKER_03: Paid all of my uh my wife, my wife's a physician as well, so they took care of all of our medical expenses and educational expenses and things of that sort.
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SPEAKER_03: Then I went back into cardiology, went back to Tulane uh did cardiology.
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SPEAKER_03: I was here for four and a half years doing cardiology, cardiovascular medicine.
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SPEAKER_03: So uh I spent quite a bit of time in New Orleans.
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SPEAKER_03: That's a lot, that's a lot of education.
11:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it is.
11:29
SPEAKER_03: It's quite a bit.
11:30
SPEAKER_03: Let's see, that's uh four years of college, uh, four years of medical school, that's eight, three years of interim medicine, that's eleven, four and a half years of cardiovascular medicine.
11:42
SPEAKER_04: Oh no, huh?
11:43
SPEAKER_04: Hey, you're you're another one of those overnight successes when they hear this podcast and seeing pictures.
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SPEAKER_04: I want to be there.
11:52
SPEAKER_04: I don't know, you know, lots of you know you're one of those 40-year overnight successes.
11:57
SPEAKER_03: That's right.
11:57
SPEAKER_03: I think I made my first check when I was maybe 33.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: A lot of my buddies were retiring.
12:03
SPEAKER_03: I was just getting started.
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SPEAKER_04: I'll build some character.
12:06
SPEAKER_04: That's right.
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SPEAKER_04: Now, uh, were you able to hunt some during all that college?
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SPEAKER_04: Because I I know you could fish some down at Tulane, but you you had to kind of put your nose down.
12:16
SPEAKER_03: So in medical school, I did not.
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SPEAKER_03: That was probably the only time that I really had a hiatus.
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SPEAKER_03: I really didn't hunt or fish much at all.
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SPEAKER_03: Medical school is very, very intense.
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SPEAKER_03: Practically every, you know, waking hour you're studying or you're doing something that's related to your medical education.
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SPEAKER_03: So not much during that that four years, but it was always there because I think I told you earlier, as soon as I graduated, you know, I went on that spring bear hunt and then I went off.
12:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and then I went back on the elk hunt.
12:45
SPEAKER_03: So I got things fired back up again.
12:48
SPEAKER_03: Um I did quite a bit of in residency and fellowship training.
12:54
SPEAKER_03: I did quite a bit of uh in southern Louisiana, uh, quite a bit of hunting then.
12:59
SPEAKER_04: I bet you picked some cooking skills up down there, too.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, some definitely some eating skills.
13:04
SPEAKER_03: The food down there was just second to none.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: At what point did you decide, heart, I'm gonna be a cardiologist, or was that the goal from the get-go?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I pretty much.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm one of my mentors, I think mentors have a huge impact on what course you take in anything.
13:22
SPEAKER_03: And uh, I had to do a year of research.
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SPEAKER_03: Uh and actually in that summer, and I worked with Michael Solsby, he was a cardiovascular uh physiologist.
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SPEAKER_03: He was such a great guy, smart, intelligent, and uh he really uh spent a lot of really good time with me and had a huge impact.
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SPEAKER_03: So I pretty much knew from that point on that that's what I wanted to do.
13:52
SPEAKER_03: And it's because I had I spent so much time, you know, with cardiovascular physiology.
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SPEAKER_03: I just had a real feel for it.
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SPEAKER_03: So I felt that the cardiology was the direction I was going to take.
14:02
SPEAKER_04: All right, we're gonna dive into our redneck world.
14:05
SPEAKER_04: We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna bust some mess and make some people mad and all that stuff.
14:09
SPEAKER_04: Sure.
14:10
SPEAKER_04: First question.
14:11
SPEAKER_04: When I I was 13, my dad was a 20-year army guy, Korea, all that kind of stuff.
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SPEAKER_04: And I watched him have a heart attack.
14:21
SPEAKER_04: Wow.
14:21
SPEAKER_04: We were over the headed to the golf course.
14:24
SPEAKER_04: He stopped to fix a flat tire for a lady, and uh we had a 63 or whatever Ford Fairlane.
14:30
SPEAKER_04: He was jacking that tire up, grabbed his chest, and I managed to get him back in that Ford Fairlane.
14:36
SPEAKER_04: You were talking about driving out in the country.
14:38
SPEAKER_04: I knew how to drive, and I drove him to the hospital at the time.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh, what was your father then?
14:42
SPEAKER_03: He was uh in his 40s, yeah, mid-40s.
14:45
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
14:45
SPEAKER_04: And I was 13, drove him to the hospital.
14:48
SPEAKER_03: He's a smoker.
14:49
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
14:49
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
14:50
SPEAKER_04: Everybody in the Korean War smoked.
14:52
SPEAKER_04: But anyway, I I I kind of got interested in it then, but uh this is just personal questions for me.
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SPEAKER_04: Can you have a bad heart through genetics, or can you have a good heart through genetics, or is it is it the roll of the dice?
15:09
SPEAKER_03: Well, no, genetics plays a huge, huge part on your susceptibility to heart disease.
15:17
SPEAKER_03: Uh so yeah, genetics plays a huge part, you know, how you handle your cholesterol, how you metabolize your cholesterol.
15:23
SPEAKER_03: If you have a family history, that's one of the things that we consider a risk factor.
15:29
SPEAKER_03: If you have uh a mother or brother, uh or grandfather, grandmother who had uh heart attack at an early age, that puts you at risk.
15:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
15:42
SPEAKER_03: So genetics, and we know now uh that genetics has a profound effect on your risk for cardiovascular disease.
15:52
SPEAKER_04: You look at some people and they're 85 years old and they look like they're 60, and it's like oh they got good genes.
15:57
SPEAKER_04: And maybe they do.
15:58
SPEAKER_03: Well, that's that's has a that's well stated.
16:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
16:03
SPEAKER_04: Who who knows?
16:04
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
16:05
SPEAKER_04: Now, in your opinion, we're not we're not giving out medical advice, although I'm with a world-renowned cardiologist.
16:12
SPEAKER_03: In your opinion, I would say a local talent.
16:15
SPEAKER_04: Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna let you say that.
16:17
SPEAKER_04: I've been reading some of them facts about you.
16:20
SPEAKER_04: Anyway, leading some of the lead and people just need to hear this.
16:24
SPEAKER_04: And I know it you may think it's a generic answer, but we'll dive a little deeper.
16:29
SPEAKER_04: Because you would you deal with this daily.
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SPEAKER_04: Some of the, in your opinion, leading causes of heart attacks, especially in younger people.
16:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
16:37
SPEAKER_03: So I think there are several factors that play a huge factor in developing or promoting cardiovascular disease or heart attack.
16:48
SPEAKER_03: Number one is cigarette smoking.
16:50
SPEAKER_03: You know, I would say the great majority, at least half of the patients that I treat are cigarette smokers.
16:56
SPEAKER_03: Really?
16:57
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
16:57
SPEAKER_04: You don't see a lot of that these days, but I guess they do it a w you know.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
17:01
SPEAKER_03: Cigarette smoking is number one.
17:02
SPEAKER_03: Number two uh has to be your diet, processed foods.
17:07
SPEAKER_04: That was my next question.
17:08
SPEAKER_04: How important is your diet?
17:10
SPEAKER_03: The first thing I tell my patients is that I ask them how often do they eat out?
17:15
SPEAKER_03: And they say, Well, Dr.
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SPEAKER_03: Strickland and I probably eat out, you know, three days a week, but I only eat salads and I'm putting salt on them.
17:22
SPEAKER_03: I said, Listen, they do all that for you, okay?
17:24
SPEAKER_03: I said, they put all of the bad stuff in the food for you, or you wouldn't be in the restaurant eating it.
17:30
SPEAKER_03: I said, one meal out a week.
17:32
SPEAKER_03: I said, the rest of it, you have to eat at home because that's the only way you can control what goes in your mouth.
17:38
SPEAKER_03: But ultra-processed foods are the ne and I'm not I'm not gonna call any fast food change, but that's yeah, yeah, we're not but I'm not here for that.
17:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but it's it's processed food.
17:50
SPEAKER_03: So, you know the the fruits and vegetables and the way we ate when we're coming out really wasn't that bad.
17:57
SPEAKER_03: You know, it's mine.
17:59
SPEAKER_04: I didn't know, but one of my grandparents on either side was my my mom's mom.
18:03
SPEAKER_04: She lived to be 91, fairly heavy, and could cook in every meal.
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SPEAKER_04: It was like at her house, right?
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SPEAKER_04: Gravy and pork chops and all that.
18:14
SPEAKER_04: But you know what?
18:15
SPEAKER_04: I don't love it.
18:16
SPEAKER_04: She was getting it out of her garden.
18:17
SPEAKER_04: They had a farm, it was and she was eating good.
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SPEAKER_04: She lived to be 91.
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SPEAKER_01: It wasn't processed foods, ultra-processed foods.
18:25
SPEAKER_04: That's uh I had some uh pre-diabetic issues.
18:30
SPEAKER_04: I I don't know if you realize or not.
18:33
SPEAKER_04: I lost almost 80 pounds.
18:36
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I can see it.
18:37
SPEAKER_04: And I'll tell you that story later.
18:39
SPEAKER_04: And I go down all these rabbit holes, and it's it's uh it's if you read enough, I'm no doctor, but it's like some of that could be related.
18:49
SPEAKER_04: Is is diabetics, can that lead to heart disease, pre-diabetes?
18:53
SPEAKER_03: Well, it's one of the major risk factors for heart disease is diabetes.
18:57
SPEAKER_03: Really?
18:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
18:58
SPEAKER_03: I would say the second most common cause of uh heart attacks strokes is related to uncontrolled diabetes.
19:11
SPEAKER_03: Whether it's type two, which the great majority of patients uh that we see have type two diabetes, and when you say type two, it just it's mostly related to uh your food, yeah, and overweight.
19:23
SPEAKER_03: What we refer to as insulin resistance.
19:26
SPEAKER_03: You have the insulin, it just doesn't work well.
19:28
SPEAKER_03: You lose weight, uh you get yourself in better physical condition, you can have a huge impact on type two diabetes.
19:36
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, diabetes is a major risk factor.
19:38
SPEAKER_03: High blood pressure is the next one, another major risk factor.
19:42
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I could see uh well, here's what happened to me.
19:45
SPEAKER_04: If I'd have kept up with you out of call anyway, I want to have a physical for the insurance for my and they called me a couple hours later and said, You need to come back to the office.
19:55
SPEAKER_04: There's an issue with your blood.
19:57
SPEAKER_04: Well, I almost had a heart attack then, so I'll get back and it was I mean the numbers were crazy, you know, and they had me some prescriptions for this and that.
20:06
SPEAKER_04: And I I got a buddy, he's a chiropractor, but his degree is in nutrition.
20:10
SPEAKER_04: Right.
20:10
SPEAKER_04: And I was seeing him for a neck injury but or a neck problem, and he was reading it, and he said, cuz I'm he said, I'm just telling you what's wrong.
20:18
SPEAKER_04: You eat like a pig, and he helped me get on a diet, and I lost almost seven 70-something pounds.
20:25
SPEAKER_04: Wow.
20:26
SPEAKER_04: Man, them numbers came back down, my neck quit hurting.
20:29
SPEAKER_03: It's like a lot of orthopedic problems that you weight has a lot to do with a lot of things.
20:37
SPEAKER_03: Uh orthopedic problems, joint problems, knee problems, diabetes, high blood pressure, sleep apnea, you know, a lot of that is related to weight.
20:49
SPEAKER_03: So losing 70 or 80 pounds solved a lot of your problems.
20:53
SPEAKER_03: Your cholesterol got better, your blood sugar got better, you know.
20:57
SPEAKER_03: You felt better about yourself, you know.
20:59
SPEAKER_03: So it's it has a psychological effect as well.
21:02
SPEAKER_04: I I looking back, I think the only reason I was able to stick it out, because he's a good buddy.
21:06
SPEAKER_04: He's really a big bow hunter.
21:08
SPEAKER_04: He ain't a warm stricken bow hunter, but he's a good bow hunter.
21:11
SPEAKER_04: And I he said, here's the deal, I'll help you with this.
21:14
SPEAKER_04: You got to come here every Monday and we weigh you.
21:18
SPEAKER_04: So I didn't want to disappoint him.
21:20
SPEAKER_04: I wasn't thinking how good it was for me.
21:22
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, right.
21:23
SPEAKER_04: But yeah, all them numbers and I hate to talk about that to these especially guys who love to eat at the deer camp and all that kind of stuff, but it's it's important.
21:34
SPEAKER_04: You want to be around and help teach your own.
21:37
SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
21:37
SPEAKER_03: I always tell, you know, a lot of my patients, you know, the biggest threat to your next deer season, you know, is your health.
21:48
SPEAKER_03: That's it.
21:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's right.
21:50
SPEAKER_03: You know, that's your most valuable asset you have to take care of it.
21:54
SPEAKER_03: If you want to continue to be out there and do the things you enjoy doing, you have to take care of yourself.
22:00
SPEAKER_04: You're living proof of that.
22:01
SPEAKER_04: 80 pounds.
22:02
SPEAKER_04: How old are you, Dr.
22:03
SPEAKER_04: Warren?
22:04
SPEAKER_03: I'm 68.
22:05
SPEAKER_04: And shooting 80, you ought to be ashamed of yourself shooting 80 pounds with a bow and I think the key to that, cuz I've never put it down.
22:12
SPEAKER_03: You know, I started doing it.
22:13
SPEAKER_03: I started shooting when I was 12 and I have never stopped shooting.
22:17
SPEAKER_04: All right.
22:17
SPEAKER_04: Hi and look, this is a dirty word for a lot of people listening to this podcast.
22:22
SPEAKER_04: And I ain't talking about going to the gym five days a week, but how important is exercise even at any level?
22:28
SPEAKER_04: How important is it for heart health?
22:31
SPEAKER_03: Oh, it's critical.
22:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
22:32
SPEAKER_03: You have to, you know, uh exercise has to be a part of I'm not gonna say daily, but you need to think about it every day.
22:43
SPEAKER_03: And you need to do something every day if it's nothing but walking, but a designed, specially designed physical fitness program should be part of your daily life.
22:57
SPEAKER_03: If it's nothing but walking, you know, if you get out of, you know, you don't have to go to a fancy gym and pay a fancy membership.
23:05
SPEAKER_03: Walking, you know, if you can walk 30 to 40 minutes three or four days a week is fantastic.
23:10
SPEAKER_03: As a matter of fact, you know, I encourage a lot of my patients, particularly as we get older, to avoid running.
23:17
SPEAKER_03: Uh you know, you want to do low impact exercise.
23:22
SPEAKER_03: Cycling is great, steer master is great.
23:25
SPEAKER_03: Uh, something that's gonna get your heart rate up, what we refer to as aerobic training.
23:30
SPEAKER_03: Uh, strength training should be part of it, flexibility training should be part of it.
23:35
SPEAKER_03: But yes, the fountain of youth is exercise.
23:39
SPEAKER_04: I was, and of course, you see stuff, and you gotta be careful who you follow and all.
23:43
SPEAKER_04: But I've been reading a lot of stuff, and and these are legitimate doctors, and he said, I can almost predict how long you're gonna live by how good your legs are.
23:52
SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah, you know, that's that's that, you know, it's some truth into that.
23:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I was a lot of truth in that.
23:58
SPEAKER_04: You can't believe what you hear on the internet, but he but basically he was saying go walking.
24:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's exactly right.
24:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, walking is all you need.
24:05
SPEAKER_03: Get your good pair of tennis shoes and you know, walk, and you know, you'll get a lot done.
24:11
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
24:12
SPEAKER_03: Don't again, you don't have to go to that fancy gym and have these fancy, you know, workout clothes.
24:18
SPEAKER_03: Just get your pair of shoes and just take off.
24:20
SPEAKER_04: Move.
24:20
SPEAKER_03: That's right.
24:21
SPEAKER_03: You gotta move.
24:22
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely correct.
24:23
SPEAKER_04: Especially during turkey season.
24:25
SPEAKER_04: I don't do that, I I didn't hadn't done it in a week, but I have a bicycle in the house, you know, where you move the hand and you and that look, you get on that thing for 20 minutes, it'll work.
24:35
SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
24:35
SPEAKER_04: That's what I do before turkey season.
24:37
SPEAKER_04: So that's right.
24:37
SPEAKER_04: So you can climb those tracks to turkey.
24:40
SPEAKER_04: Any any any little bit helps.
24:41
SPEAKER_04: Now, do you still do cardio to get ready for archer season?
24:45
SPEAKER_03: I I shoot my ball year-round since I was 12.
24:49
SPEAKER_03: I've never been out of you know, in poor physical condition, because you can't do it.
24:55
SPEAKER_03: And I tell a lot of bow hunters, particularly if you're gonna go out west and you're gonna go out north, uh, go up in the in the north country.
25:04
SPEAKER_03: The most important determinant of your success is not that 300 foot per second bow, that nice camo pattern you got, those great hiking boots, is your physical conditioning.
25:16
SPEAKER_03: That's what's gonna determine whether you're gonna come off that mountain successful or not.
25:20
SPEAKER_03: Because if you're not in good physical shape, you just can't get it done.
25:23
SPEAKER_03: It hurts you mentally.
25:25
SPEAKER_03: Uh and you're just not gonna be, as we talked earlier, you're not gonna be to be out there seven or eight days.
25:31
SPEAKER_03: You know, so can't handle it.
25:33
SPEAKER_03: Cannot handle it.
25:34
SPEAKER_03: So a lot of my success here is a result of my physical fitness.
25:40
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
25:40
SPEAKER_04: And you yeah, you don't go sheep hunting and by being a stunned.
25:44
SPEAKER_04: But I'm just telling you, and you know those outfitters and guides, especially out west.
25:48
SPEAKER_04: I have I filmed elk hunts and all that stuff, and they can look and sum up real quick.
25:53
SPEAKER_04: And if they think that you're in terrible shape and you can't walk 500 yards, it changes the way they hunt.
25:59
SPEAKER_04: You ain't getting to the good spots.
26:03
SPEAKER_03: You can't get out.
26:04
SPEAKER_03: And they can't be carrying you, you know.
26:06
SPEAKER_03: You're gonna have to fend for yourself.
26:08
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's easy to watch TV like we used to throw out there or look at social media and go, man, I'm going elk hunting.
26:15
SPEAKER_03: Until they hit the top of that mountain.
26:17
SPEAKER_04: I can tell you the first time I went out there and I I and I, of course, I wasn't in great shape.
26:22
SPEAKER_04: I'd been doing a lot.
26:24
SPEAKER_04: Just that night, my nose bled that so much that night.
26:27
SPEAKER_04: I thought I was gonna have to go to the hospital, and it was the altitude stuff.
26:31
SPEAKER_04: My nose started bleeding.
26:32
SPEAKER_03: It was like Yeah, and you know, one of the things you definitely want to avoid when you go to altitude is alcohol.
26:37
SPEAKER_03: You know, you gotta make sure you stay well hydrated.
26:39
SPEAKER_03: Alcohol dehydrates you.
26:41
SPEAKER_03: But mountain sickness, uh, particularly when you get up above 7,000 feet, you have to be really careful.
26:46
SPEAKER_03: You have to give your, you know, you don't really want to kill yourself the first couple of days when you go up to altitude.
26:51
SPEAKER_03: I mean, we live at 300 feet above sea level.
26:53
SPEAKER_03: You gotta go up and give your body enough time to adjust to that altitude.
26:58
SPEAKER_03: And that's by staying well hydrated, staying away from alcohol, and then start off slow.
27:05
SPEAKER_03: And as the hunt progresses, you will get stronger.
27:10
SPEAKER_04: You know, old timer builds knives with durability in mind.
27:13
SPEAKER_04: They also want it to be a tool that is comfortable enough to work with day after day.
27:19
SPEAKER_04: Since the beginning, old timer has made knives for those who don't rely on others to get the job done.
27:25
SPEAKER_04: I love that.
27:26
SPEAKER_04: Old timer built for generations.
27:37
SPEAKER_04: You know, there's nothing I love more than teaching my grandkids how to be better woodsmen.
27:43
SPEAKER_04: The Onex app helps me do that in a way that makes sense to them.
27:47
SPEAKER_04: They're all about apps in that phone.
27:50
SPEAKER_04: Using Onex to set optimal wind on stands that should or shouldn't be hunted on certain winds makes it easier for them to understand that, hey, a north wind blows from the north, not to the north.
28:04
SPEAKER_04: Using that little slope angle layer when teaching them how to read topographical maps, but the color-coded shaving makes it a lot easier to explain to them what tightly static tofu lines mean.
28:16
SPEAKER_04: Bottom line, Onyx Hunt makes learning fun for those young ones and still helps me find success in the field.
28:23
SPEAKER_04: It's an easy-to-use platform.
28:25
SPEAKER_04: Hey, even I can do it.
28:27
SPEAKER_04: I suggest it for any age outdoors.
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29:04
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29:05
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29:08
SPEAKER_04: Talk to me about stress, because uh personally I think that's one reason why you look like you're 45 years old.
29:15
SPEAKER_04: I just don't think you and I don't know you that well.
29:18
SPEAKER_04: I don't think you stress about a lot of stuff.
29:20
SPEAKER_04: How important is that?
29:22
SPEAKER_03: You know, I think as we get older, you know, um I have come to the conclusion many years ago that if it's something that I can't control, I don't worry about it.
29:36
SPEAKER_03: You know, because you you cannot fix everything.
29:40
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
29:41
SPEAKER_03: You just can't do it.
29:42
SPEAKER_03: And if it's not gonna have a profound effect on my family or on me or something I can't control, I just take it off my plate.
29:53
SPEAKER_03: And and it's not that you're insensitive, but uh it's the reality of the situation.
30:00
SPEAKER_03: And you can't be everything over everybody.
30:03
SPEAKER_03: You know.
30:04
SPEAKER_03: So yeah, stress, we now know in medicine that stress leads to poor sleep, which leads to lots of bad health problems.
30:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
30:16
SPEAKER_03: And you know, if you're stressing over things, it's hard to sleep good at night.
30:20
SPEAKER_03: And if you don't have a good night's sleep, you go four or five days or a week without a good night's sleep, you know, you just don't feel good about life.
30:28
SPEAKER_03: And it has a toll on your physical fitness, your mental fitness as well.
30:33
SPEAKER_03: So yeah, stress, we have to learn how to control stress, and everyone handles stress a little bit different, you know.
30:41
SPEAKER_03: But I think one of the things that medicine teaches you is you know how to handle it.
30:48
SPEAKER_03: So I have been uh in a great environment to learn how to control the stress.
30:56
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you seem to have a handle on it, and some people say, Well, you can't turn your brain off.
30:59
SPEAKER_04: You can't teach somebody that can you teach somebody to have a positive attitude?
31:04
SPEAKER_04: I always felt like if you had a positive attitude, you couldn't be stressing about other stuff.
31:09
SPEAKER_04: Does that make sense?
31:10
SPEAKER_03: That makes a lot of sense.
31:11
SPEAKER_03: It makes absolutely a lot of sense.
31:13
SPEAKER_03: And I tell my patients before you go into you know a major procedure, and I definitely tell the family, you know, they and and I had this happen yesterday.
31:23
SPEAKER_03: It was a patient who was pretty sick and the daughter was there, and she went over every negative thing that could happen.
31:30
SPEAKER_03: I said, ma'am, let's think positive about this, okay?
31:33
SPEAKER_03: I said, None of that's gonna happen because we're gonna have a positive attitude.
31:40
SPEAKER_03: Dad's gonna have a great outcome, he's gonna do great.
31:43
SPEAKER_03: He said, That's how what I want you to think about.
31:47
SPEAKER_03: That's how I want him to think, not about the negative.
31:50
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and get off your phone, quit scrolling.
31:53
SPEAKER_04: That's exactly right.
31:54
SPEAKER_04: Have have you ever had or been around or seen a um since you're a doctor, a medical emergency when you're hunting, hunting camp, airport, anything like is there a doctor in the house?
32:05
SPEAKER_03: Oh, so many times.
32:07
SPEAKER_03: Really?
32:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
32:08
SPEAKER_03: So I can tell you I was on a sheep hunt and uh I had been out there for two weeks.
32:13
SPEAKER_03: And you know, you're pretty worn out.
32:15
SPEAKER_03: I don't care how to shape you in after two weeks on a mountain, you know, eating freeze dried food, you know, burning 10,000 calories a day, eating two thousand calories, not a lot of water, but I had just flew into camp on the plane and and got off.
32:30
SPEAKER_03: And uh the guy had a satellite phone and it wasn't the guy, it was just the place where we kind of stayed.
32:36
SPEAKER_03: So I asked him, could I use his phone and call home?
32:39
SPEAKER_03: So I was talking to my wife on the phone and he runs up.
32:43
SPEAKER_03: I had just got on the phone.
32:44
SPEAKER_03: We need you now, and he said, Can you see?
32:46
SPEAKER_03: I said, I hadn't talked to my wife in two weeks.
32:48
SPEAKER_03: And he just waited, he said, No, no, we need you right now.
32:51
SPEAKER_03: So uh so I hung up and I walked in.
32:53
SPEAKER_03: The kid had been actually uh cutting a piece of wood and his little brother put his hand down there and that axe just went through and just laid his hand wide open.
33:08
SPEAKER_03: You know, I mean it was an ugly cut.
33:11
SPEAKER_03: And uh I looked at it, I said, Well, I said, he really needs to have an orthopedic surgeon to fix this.
33:17
SPEAKER_03: I said, it's gonna take lots of layers.
33:19
SPEAKER_03: I said, you know, I can I can sew him up, and I I I usually always take a good first aid kid with me.
33:25
SPEAKER_03: I said, I can sew him up.
33:26
SPEAKER_03: I said, but as soon as you get a chance, you need to take him in.
33:29
SPEAKER_03: I said I'm gonna take it.
33:29
SPEAKER_03: I said he's a young kid, he's probably 10 years old, 20 years old.
33:33
SPEAKER_03: Um and so I sat down and talked with him and you know, cleaned it up.
33:37
SPEAKER_03: And I said, listen, I said now this is gonna hurt a little bit.
33:42
SPEAKER_03: I said, but if we don't get this fixed, I said this could have significant problems in the long term infection and things of that sort.
33:49
SPEAKER_03: I said, so I just need to do the whole steel and let me fix it.
33:53
SPEAKER_03: And I've had a you know a pretty pretty complete, I had a lot of cane, I had antibiotics and lots of sutures, and I sit there and it was four different layers.
34:03
SPEAKER_03: I put three hundred and fifty stitches in his hand.
34:05
SPEAKER_03: Are you serious?
34:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, the cover, yeah.
34:07
SPEAKER_03: At the camp.
34:08
SPEAKER_03: At the camp.
34:09
SPEAKER_03: Three hundred and fifty stuff.
34:11
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I had to do four layers of closing because I mean he cut it.
34:14
SPEAKER_03: It was a long, deep, deep, deep cut.
34:17
SPEAKER_03: But it was three hundred.
34:18
SPEAKER_03: It took me about two and two and a half hours, so you know, and I had to irrigate and clean.
34:22
SPEAKER_03: I sit down.
34:22
SPEAKER_03: And I told the parents to sit down, you know, as soon as you get a chance, it's everything moves.
34:27
SPEAKER_03: It didn't look like he cut any tendons.
34:29
SPEAKER_03: Take him in, let an orthopod take a look at a hand specialist.
34:32
SPEAKER_03: So they called me back two weeks later.
34:34
SPEAKER_03: He said, He said, I don't know who sewed his hand up.
34:36
SPEAKER_03: The guy did a great job.
34:38
SPEAKER_03: He didn't have to do anything.
34:39
SPEAKER_03: And uh they called me back six months later and said it's completely healed and he did great.
34:43
SPEAKER_03: But yeah, I've had I've had those type of things happen quite a bit, probably more so on the airplane than anywhere else.
34:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
34:50
SPEAKER_04: Holy cow.
34:51
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
34:53
SPEAKER_04: Sometimes God intervenes, that kid, the reason you were in that camp was divine intervention, in my opinion.
34:59
SPEAKER_04: I came home one day when my, and this is you talking about a fluke, my youngest Lauren, who produces a podcast.
35:08
SPEAKER_04: I was I was watching the kids and she was on the front porch, which was from it was literally six feet from me.
35:14
SPEAKER_04: I was sitting on the steps, and this big tomcat came up in our yard and she was petting on a little kitten, and that tomcat just attacked.
35:23
SPEAKER_04: I mean, this thing was brutal.
35:24
SPEAKER_04: This thing looked like a 10-pound bobcat.
35:27
SPEAKER_03: That's unusual because tomcats just raked down her face.
35:31
SPEAKER_04: If she hadn't had glasses, it was terrible.
35:34
SPEAKER_04: I looked at her and I freaked out.
35:36
SPEAKER_04: It was just the more the worst lacerations you ever seen.
35:40
SPEAKER_04: And by the grace of God, I only lived like 500 yards from the hospital.
35:45
SPEAKER_04: Really?
35:45
SPEAKER_04: So I grabbed my shirt, took my shirt off, and wiped her up and took off really.
35:49
SPEAKER_04: How old was she?
35:50
SPEAKER_04: She was about five.
35:52
SPEAKER_04: Wow.
35:52
SPEAKER_04: Little bitty thing.
35:53
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
35:54
SPEAKER_04: Ran to the hospital.
35:55
SPEAKER_04: And when I got there, uh Dr.
35:58
SPEAKER_04: Funderburg, who was uh earnose, but he's he's a plastic surgeon.
36:02
SPEAKER_04: Oh my goodness.
36:03
SPEAKER_04: And he rolled in there with her, and he did all, and to this day, you can't tell Yeah, plastic surgeons.
36:09
SPEAKER_03: It doesn't get any better than that.
36:11
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
36:11
SPEAKER_04: What a I mean, it and it it was just terrible.
36:14
SPEAKER_04: My wife got home, there was blood on the front porch and the shit.
36:17
SPEAKER_04: But anyway, he just happened to be at the ER.
36:21
SPEAKER_04: So he's that's a blessing.
36:23
SPEAKER_04: That's a gift from God.
36:24
SPEAKER_04: He's a big muzzle order guy, but uh all right, I'm gonna talk and look, you run it if you I'm older than you, I keep saying that.
36:32
SPEAKER_03: Not much.
36:32
SPEAKER_04: Yeah but uh old people, older people, they always talk about this or that or this or that.
36:38
SPEAKER_04: I'm monitoring that.
36:39
SPEAKER_04: And I know you should monitor everything, but what in your opinion, if you're gonna look at something first, right?
36:45
SPEAKER_04: So you look at your blood pressure or your cholesterol?
36:48
SPEAKER_03: Blood pressure is number one.
36:50
SPEAKER_04: Number one.
36:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
36:51
SPEAKER_03: First of all, that's something that you can impact pretty quickly.
36:54
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
36:55
SPEAKER_03: And if you look at all the particularly the major cardiovascular risk is from high blood pressure.
37:02
SPEAKER_03: Strokes, heart attack, even kidney failure.
37:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
37:06
SPEAKER_03: So controlling your blood pressure is critically important.
37:10
SPEAKER_03: And I always encourage all of my patients don't wait till you come to the doctor to take a blood pressure, because that's probably the most inaccurate one.
37:18
SPEAKER_03: White coach syndrome, syndrome, right, exactly.
37:22
SPEAKER_03: You know, have your good blood pressure cuff at home and you know, check your blood pressure two to three times a week.
37:27
SPEAKER_03: It keeps you honest, you know.
37:29
SPEAKER_03: I think a lot of mistakes that we all make is that we feel that if we don't see it, it doesn't exist.
37:42
SPEAKER_03: If you understand what I'm saying.
37:43
SPEAKER_04: Oh, you're looking me in the eyes knowing I'm that guy.
37:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's right.
37:46
SPEAKER_03: If I don't check my blood pressure, it's okay, I'm not having any symptoms.
37:50
SPEAKER_03: If I don't check my blood sugar, it's okay because I'm not having any symptoms.
37:54
SPEAKER_03: But that's the worst thing.
37:55
SPEAKER_03: You want to get ahead of it.
37:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
37:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
37:57
SPEAKER_03: And you want to hold yourself accountable.
38:02
SPEAKER_03: And the only way you're going to do that, you have to know the numbers.
38:06
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
38:06
SPEAKER_04: Listen how bad my syndrome is.
38:09
SPEAKER_04: And I was going to, I take a tiny little lacenterpril.
38:12
SPEAKER_04: It's the only medication I got.
38:15
SPEAKER_04: Everything else is fine.
38:16
SPEAKER_04: So I go to the doctor because a prescription ran out.
38:20
SPEAKER_04: And she he comes in, takes my blood pressure, and anyway, it's like it's it's it's not stupid, but it ain't good.
38:28
SPEAKER_04: It's like 153 over 98.
38:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's a little high, yeah.
38:32
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
38:32
SPEAKER_04: And he he looks at me and said, that's a little high, cuz I said, Doc, come back in 10 minutes.
38:36
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
38:37
SPEAKER_04: He came back in 10 minutes, 131 over 83.
38:40
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
38:41
SPEAKER_04: That's where I live.
38:42
SPEAKER_04: That's right.
38:42
SPEAKER_03: And I think that's that's the stress.
38:44
SPEAKER_03: It's just the stress of been there, the stress that he's taking.
38:47
SPEAKER_03: You know, he's probably an hour late and you're mad because the doctor, you know, you have to sit in the office and wait.
38:52
SPEAKER_04: It's uh the I'm just saying the white coat syndrome is a real thing.
38:55
SPEAKER_04: My wife, we got really good stuff at home, and I take it two or three times a week.
39:00
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's fantastic.
39:01
SPEAKER_04: I kind of live right in that world, especially since I lost 70 pounds.
39:05
SPEAKER_04: And I don't want to keep saying that.
39:06
SPEAKER_04: What I'm the reason we're even here and I got the doctor to stay around, is we want all you guys to be around for hunting season.
39:14
SPEAKER_04: That's right.
39:14
SPEAKER_04: Blood pressure's nothing to mess with, neither is that cardiac stuff.
39:18
SPEAKER_03: So, and let me just say this, because I always encourage everyone over the age of 45, go in and see your cardiologist or your family practitioner.
39:31
SPEAKER_03: And if you have a family history or you have risk factors, there's a couple of studies that you can do that can make a big difference.
39:39
SPEAKER_03: One is a CT angiogram of your heart arteries, it will give you a calcium score, which shows your risk, and will also give you a very accurate look at your heart arteries to see if there's any blockage, if there's not any blockage.
39:53
SPEAKER_03: That's a very important uh study to get.
39:56
SPEAKER_03: And another one is just a regular treadmill.
39:58
SPEAKER_03: You don't have to get a a real fancy uh stress test, but if you just do a regular treadmill stress test and a CT angiogram, it gives you a really good look of where you are cardiovascular-wise.
40:12
SPEAKER_03: And it's and those both are easy, non-invasive testing.
40:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
40:16
SPEAKER_04: It goes back to, well, if I don't see it, it ain't a problem.
40:19
SPEAKER_04: But you know who Bill Eppards is.
40:22
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yes.
40:22
SPEAKER_04: One of Pete Shepley's best friends in the world.
40:25
SPEAKER_04: You know, he had a heart attack doing his stress test at the hospital.
40:30
SPEAKER_04: You tell me that wasn't a gift from God.
40:31
SPEAKER_03: That's exactly that's the best place to have it.
40:33
SPEAKER_04: I'm telling you what, he was having he's a cop.
40:36
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
40:36
SPEAKER_04: And they were giving him his stress test, boom, and he hit the and now he's fit as a fiddle.
40:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's great.
40:42
SPEAKER_03: I tell you the advances that we have made in cardiovascular medicine over the last 20 years have just been just so phenomenal.
40:49
SPEAKER_03: You know, I can remember when I was in medical school because if you had a heart attack, it wasn't a lot you could do.
40:53
SPEAKER_03: Hopefully, you know, the person can make it, can weather the storm and get through it.
40:58
SPEAKER_03: But now, if you have chest pain and you have a heart attack, if you can make it to the hospital within six hours, you will walk out of there because you can take that patient directly to the cardiac cathodization laboratory, you can open that artery up and stent it, and they'll walk out of the hospital.
41:15
SPEAKER_03: It's pretty incredible.
41:17
SPEAKER_04: We should all get down on our knees and thank God every day where we live where we live, in my opinion, because you can't get that everywhere.
41:24
SPEAKER_03: You cannot.
41:25
SPEAKER_03: The access to medical care is expensive, but you can have immediate access to some of the best health care in the world right here in the U.S.
41:34
SPEAKER_03: We're very fortunate.
41:35
SPEAKER_04: Amen.
41:36
SPEAKER_04: All right, let's make some people mad.
41:38
SPEAKER_04: Let's talk about food and all that kind of stuff.
41:40
SPEAKER_04: And I was like, and I know you uh at your age, the way you look, you you eat clean.
41:46
SPEAKER_04: But, and there's times when you're up on the mountain, I know, and there's times you go on the mountain, you can't eat clean.
41:52
SPEAKER_04: That's right.
41:52
SPEAKER_04: You're doing hydrated food and all this kind of stuff.
41:56
SPEAKER_04: But when Dr.
41:56
SPEAKER_04: Strickland's at home and he's eating clean, what's that look like?
42:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so I love fruit and vegetables.
42:05
SPEAKER_03: You know, they will fill you up.
42:07
SPEAKER_03: You can snacking, I try not to snack at all.
42:10
SPEAKER_03: I try not to eat anything, and this is important if you can avoid it, if you not eat anything after six o'clock.
42:17
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's a biggie.
42:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because you you'll burn it all up.
42:22
SPEAKER_03: So I try to get most of my calories in.
42:25
SPEAKER_03: I eat a small breakfast, a very good lunch, a small supper and nothing after six.
42:31
SPEAKER_03: Get your calories in early where you can burn them up.
42:34
SPEAKER_03: Uh eat something late, and when I say late at five or six o'clock, where you can get rid of that, you know, that snacking craze, but do not snack and try not to eat anything after.
42:47
SPEAKER_03: So that gives you twelve hours of fasting.
42:49
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
42:49
SPEAKER_03: So you burn a lot of that up.
42:51
SPEAKER_03: So I think that's important in how you eat and how you get your calories.
42:56
SPEAKER_03: A breakfast, a larger lunch, and a very small supper.
43:01
SPEAKER_03: Everyone wants to have a big supper, right?
43:02
SPEAKER_03: They want to have, but that should be a very smallest meals is your supper.
43:08
SPEAKER_03: Because you're gonna go to bed on that.
43:10
SPEAKER_03: Most of that you're gonna hold on to.
43:12
SPEAKER_03: That's usually the culprit for high blood pressure, diabetes, and weight gain is your supper.
43:19
SPEAKER_03: It's not dinner.
43:21
SPEAKER_03: Well, it's it's not lunch, but it's because you know, you eat it, you sit down, you watch television, you know, then you sleep on it all night.
43:28
SPEAKER_03: So you hold on to a lot of that.
43:30
SPEAKER_04: A couple of things are hard.
43:31
SPEAKER_04: I mean, when I lost all my weight, that was the first hardest thing, is to not eat before I went to bed.
43:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's right.
43:38
SPEAKER_03: Everybody wants to do that.
43:39
SPEAKER_03: You want a snack, eat ice cream, eating.
43:41
SPEAKER_03: Dr.
43:41
SPEAKER_04: David Allen, I he would say, What what'd you have?
43:44
SPEAKER_04: I said, Man, I had a pack of naves about 8 30.
43:47
SPEAKER_04: He said, It's like 35 carbs.
43:49
SPEAKER_04: He was just wearing me out.
43:51
SPEAKER_04: You can't and I finally got out of that habit.
43:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it made a difference.
43:55
SPEAKER_03: They look at you.
43:56
SPEAKER_03: Yes, yes.
43:56
SPEAKER_03: You look a different person.
43:58
SPEAKER_03: One other thing, too, you know what I always tell my They say, Well, Dr.
44:01
SPEAKER_03: Strickland, you know, what should I eat?
44:03
SPEAKER_03: What should I not eat?
44:05
SPEAKER_03: I give him a piece of paper and I say, write down your ten favorite things.
44:10
SPEAKER_03: And now, and I'll, you know, I said, and and I'll come back and give them that list.
44:14
SPEAKER_03: I said, okay, don't eat anything.
44:16
SPEAKER_04: It's on all ten of them.
44:20
SPEAKER_04: Hey, that's uh that's great right there.
44:24
SPEAKER_04: He hit my deal was, and look, and I'm I'm I'm like you now, I made up my mind and I did what I was gonna do.
44:31
SPEAKER_04: I got me some protein bars and I would have one of those for breakfast and I would have a salad and a protein, and I I just got after it.
44:40
SPEAKER_04: And I would dream about sausage biscuits.
44:43
SPEAKER_04: That's the only thing that wore me out.
44:45
SPEAKER_04: I just it's like this morning, I had a sausage patty and an egg, left the bread out.
44:52
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
44:52
SPEAKER_04: Them them them high them carbs, they don't most carbohydrates just turn to sugar anyway, don't you?
45:00
SPEAKER_03: Carbs are horrible for you.
45:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you definitely want to restrict your carbs.
45:03
SPEAKER_03: But what you've done, you've taken your health in your own hands.
45:08
SPEAKER_03: You've taken responsibility for it, and you have just given yourself an extra 10 years of life.
45:14
SPEAKER_04: Well, I hope so.
45:15
SPEAKER_04: It's hard.
45:15
SPEAKER_04: And you know what?
45:16
SPEAKER_03: You know, when you're 20 or 30 years old, you're proved.
45:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's exactly right.
45:20
SPEAKER_03: You see, what's what's 10 years?
45:21
SPEAKER_03: But I'm telling you, when you get down that last five minutes, you wish you had those 10 years, you know.
45:26
SPEAKER_04: Well, my my buddy looked at me and said, and at the time, I got a picture of me, and this my wife would say, This ain't about you.
45:34
SPEAKER_04: And it's not.
45:36
SPEAKER_02: I hear that a lot myself.
45:38
SPEAKER_04: They will keep you humble.
45:39
SPEAKER_04: I have a picture of me when I took Jack Nicholas on his bow hunt with his son, and I weighed 305.
45:45
SPEAKER_04: Wow.
45:45
SPEAKER_03: And I I shoot because I didn't recognize let me tell you this.
45:49
SPEAKER_03: Last uh when I was in Springfield, I didn't recognize you.
45:52
SPEAKER_04: Well, I keep that picture on my bulletin board, and if I want to go do something, I should each I was go look at that picture, I ain't going back there.
46:00
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I am not going back there.
46:02
SPEAKER_04: And I don't eat clean, I cheat from time to time.
46:05
SPEAKER_03: Well, you have to reward yourself every now and then, right?
46:07
SPEAKER_04: Occasionally, but no sugar.
46:08
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
46:09
SPEAKER_04: No, sugar's another one that we need to talk about.
46:12
SPEAKER_04: Uh and and that may be more of a cancer thing, but uh sugar, I didn't have I didn't really have much trouble getting getting away from that.
46:21
SPEAKER_04: But I know it's bad for your metabolism and everything.
46:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, sugar, yeah, carbohydrates are just you know breads, pastas, you know, you just you need to substitute uh vegetables and fruits f for those.
46:35
SPEAKER_03: Just eat cleaner.
46:36
SPEAKER_03: Just eat cleaner after that.
46:37
SPEAKER_04: And nothing after six o'clock.
46:39
SPEAKER_03: Nothing after six and stay away from pro ultra-processed foods.
46:43
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
46:44
SPEAKER_04: I gotcha.
46:45
SPEAKER_03: And I'm gonna say this, and a lot of my patients ask me, well, how should I eat?
46:50
SPEAKER_03: And I tell them, go Google Mediterranean diet.
46:53
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
46:53
SPEAKER_03: You can eat a Mediterranean diet, you're gonna be okay.
46:58
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
46:59
SPEAKER_04: Worst case scenario, get off the sugar and the carbs.
47:02
SPEAKER_04: And you can get off you can you can get on your phone now how many how many carbs in a bag of chips.
47:08
SPEAKER_04: You'd be stunned.
47:09
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
47:10
SPEAKER_04: How many, how many grams of sugar in a can Coke?
47:13
SPEAKER_04: That'll make you faint.
47:15
SPEAKER_04: It's crazy.
47:15
SPEAKER_04: That's right, right.
47:16
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
47:16
SPEAKER_04: And again, hey, we're just looking out for you.
47:19
SPEAKER_04: So I I got some I won't I these are personal questions.
47:23
SPEAKER_04: Sure.
47:24
SPEAKER_04: Because I I've known you for a long time.
47:26
SPEAKER_04: We lost touch for a little bit.
47:28
SPEAKER_04: But I wanna and and you're very humble about your career and all this other stuff.
47:34
SPEAKER_04: But I want to ask you, do you think your time outdoors and God's creation, and I know you're a Christian, has made you a better physician?
47:43
SPEAKER_03: Oh, without a doubt.
47:45
SPEAKER_03: You cannot maintain that type of stress day in and day out and maintain your sanity or hatred job.
48:00
SPEAKER_03: What the outdoors has done for me is giving me something to look forward to.
48:04
SPEAKER_03: And it's basically my mental health counseling, you know.
48:12
SPEAKER_03: You know, I know that okay, I gotta work pretty hard for the next two weeks.
48:16
SPEAKER_03: But then I get a chance to go elk hunting, or you know, now it's going to duck honey and I go hang out with some of my buddies, but just get in away.
48:26
SPEAKER_03: You have to come over air.
48:27
SPEAKER_03: You cannot stay underwater.
48:30
SPEAKER_03: And that's what matters, and I mean it's intense.
48:32
SPEAKER_03: You can't stay down there for you gotta b you gotta break the surface and come up, and that's what honey has provided for me.
48:40
SPEAKER_03: It's uh mental health.
48:42
SPEAKER_04: You can't afford to not have a clear head.
48:45
SPEAKER_03: No, no, honey.
48:46
SPEAKER_04: Or a positive attitude or a lot of energy, not in what you do for a living.
48:50
SPEAKER_03: No, no, I you know, you have to in medicine and particularly as an interventional cardiologist, you have to make very rapid decisions that definitely determines the outcome of your patient.
49:06
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, so you have to keep it very clear here.
49:09
SPEAKER_04: You could probably write a book on this, but just come into mind one favorite patient, one story, one something that had a great ending that shouldn't have some divine intervention.
49:20
SPEAKER_04: You probably have hundreds.
49:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I have hundreds of them, but I can just tell you one.
49:26
SPEAKER_03: Uh I was on call and this was probably a year ago.
49:33
SPEAKER_03: And they called me in and said, you know, we got this young kid that's coming in, he was out cutting his grass, he was about 40 years old and he had sudden cardiac death.
49:43
SPEAKER_03: He fainted and uh lost consciousness, really had no pulse or heart rate, and we were coming in with him.
49:50
SPEAKER_03: So they called me and I got there and everyone doing a CPR.
49:53
SPEAKER_03: He was 37 years old.
49:56
SPEAKER_03: Wife, three kids.
49:58
SPEAKER_03: Did an electrocardiogram and had a huge what we call an Andrew Wall, the Willow Maker, heart attack.
50:06
SPEAKER_03: So we started CPR, started giving him meds, and uh got a blood pressure back, I got a rhythm back.
50:13
SPEAKER_03: I took him up to the cath lab, found the uh and that's where we go and and do the androgram, or we shoot down to the heart arteries and see the block it.
50:21
SPEAKER_03: Saw the blocked artery, got it open, and things kind of slowed down.
50:26
SPEAKER_03: Uh his rhythm got better, his blood pressure became more stable.
50:29
SPEAKER_03: I put in what you call a balloon pump, it helped us put the heart at rest, and took him to the unit.
50:35
SPEAKER_03: He still was pretty sick, and he had done quite quite a bit of muscle damage because he probably 30 minutes, he didn't have really any effective blood flow to the heart muscle, so it wasn't moving well.
50:48
SPEAKER_03: Uh so I put him in an intensive care unit and watched him over probably four to five days, get a little bit better and a little bit better, had him on a ventilator.
51:01
SPEAKER_03: After about a week, was able to get him off the ventilator, got the balloon pump out, sent him up to the floor, got a little bit stronger.
51:10
SPEAKER_03: Uh, after about two weeks in the hospital, he got significantly better, bounced back, and he walked out of the hospital.
51:18
SPEAKER_03: Walked out.
51:19
SPEAKER_04: Almost clinically dead.
51:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, oh he was.
51:22
SPEAKER_03: He was clinically dead, yeah.
51:24
SPEAKER_03: But he walked out of the hospital.
51:25
SPEAKER_03: So when you see something like that happens, it makes you feel very good about what you do.
51:29
SPEAKER_03: Because I gave, and and you know, when you give a family back your loved one, yeah, or you give a patient back their life, they never forget it.
51:42
SPEAKER_03: They absolutely never ever forget it.
51:45
SPEAKER_03: So that's one story that I can remember because y you know, young fellow.
51:51
SPEAKER_03: If you have that happen 99 out of a hundred times, you know, the great majority of the time they won't make it.
51:56
SPEAKER_03: Or if they do, they're gonna have a deficit, they're gonna have some brain damage or they're gonna have some physical limitation.
52:02
SPEAKER_03: But he walked out of the hospital and in a month he was back at work.
52:05
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
52:06
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so you still grin when you tell that story.
52:09
SPEAKER_03: I do, yeah.
52:09
SPEAKER_03: That makes that makes you feel really good about your job and what you're doing.
52:15
SPEAKER_04: Last question.
52:16
SPEAKER_04: And again, this one's kind of personal.
52:18
SPEAKER_04: Sure.
52:19
SPEAKER_04: Uh, and if you listen to the previous pod or the podcast with Dr.
52:23
SPEAKER_04: Warren about bow hunting and heard me read the stuff in the opening, that's rarefied air what he's done.
52:30
SPEAKER_04: He's also in rarefied air what he does for a living.
52:34
SPEAKER_04: You can Google him and just read all about it.
52:37
SPEAKER_04: He's also one of the best family men, unbelievable dad, husband, all that kind of stuff.
52:43
SPEAKER_04: And to me, your best quality is how humble you are.
52:48
SPEAKER_04: How how do you stay humble and why do you stay so humble about these accomplishments?
52:55
SPEAKER_04: Because they're crazy.
52:56
SPEAKER_03: Well, it you know, cuz there's nothing that I have done that hasn't been done before.
53:09
SPEAKER_03: I just feel incredibly blessed that I have been given the opportunity to save someone's life, to impact your life.
53:19
SPEAKER_03: I have been given the opportunity to go to these great places and uh meet these great people and have these great experiences.
53:32
SPEAKER_03: So um humble, I feel fortunate and very blessed.
53:40
SPEAKER_04: You you said in the opening the other podcast, your dad told you if you're good enough, the other people are gonna.
53:49
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
53:49
SPEAKER_03: He said, you know, if you got to, you know, if you gotta tell everyone what you're doing, then it's not that important.
53:55
SPEAKER_03: He said, if it's something that really means something, they know.
53:57
SPEAKER_04: Man, those dad quotes.
53:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
54:00
SPEAKER_04: I have one, I was interviewing Ted Nugent, and I asked him something similar to then, one one question, you know, one statement or something.
54:08
SPEAKER_04: He said, My my dad told me one time, his dad was like a drill saw or something, and his dad told him, He said, Show me who you run with, and I'll tell you who you are.
54:18
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
54:19
SPEAKER_04: And I was like, Wow, that's that's some good advice.
54:22
SPEAKER_03: And my dad would always tell me, I say, son, you know, if if you're gonna really do well in life, you gotta surround yourself by very smart people.
54:30
SPEAKER_03: He said, if you are the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.
54:36
SPEAKER_04: Hey, I have never been in that room, and I certainly ain't in that room now.
54:42
SPEAKER_04: But uh man, what a treat to get to.
54:45
SPEAKER_04: And you know, I look at a lot of this stuff like that's why I wanted to film Tom Kelly.
54:50
SPEAKER_04: He's my turkey hunting mentor.
54:52
SPEAKER_03: What a legend.
54:53
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and I wanted to get him on tape so there would be a record.
54:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely.
54:57
SPEAKER_04: And I wanted to come visit with you, Mike to Mike, so there would be a record because we're introducing you to some new people, and uh what a treat.
55:06
SPEAKER_04: And you're talking about blessed.
55:08
SPEAKER_04: I'm I'm blessed beyond anybody for being able to hang out with you and people like you.
55:14
SPEAKER_04: And it's like, man, if if everybody would just kind of follow those leads, don't give up.
55:20
SPEAKER_04: Don't get mad when you look at social media and somebody's doing better because you kind of control all that.
55:26
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
55:27
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
55:27
SPEAKER_03: I agree with you a hundred percent.
55:29
SPEAKER_03: And, you know, it's been great for you making this trip here to spend some time with me.
55:35
SPEAKER_03: We got a chance to get caught up, and you know, we're gonna do more of this, and I can't wait to make that uh spring turkey hunt with you, you know, and I'm gonna hold you to that, cuz.
55:44
SPEAKER_04: Yes, sir.
55:45
SPEAKER_04: Look, not only are we gonna make the hunt, I'm not even gonna make you buy an out-of-state license.
55:50
SPEAKER_04: I got a spot on the Mississippi-Tennessee line.
55:52
SPEAKER_03: Do you really?
55:54
SPEAKER_04: I'll show you some pictures.
55:56
SPEAKER_04: Dr.
55:56
SPEAKER_04: Warren, thank you so much for your time.
55:58
SPEAKER_04: God bless you, and I appreciate you uh being on the Fistful of Dirt.
56:02
SPEAKER_03: Thank you, Cuz, for coming up.
56:04
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56:06
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56:08
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56:20
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56:27
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56:45
SPEAKER_04: Well, there you go.
56:46
SPEAKER_05: There's so much information on the internet that you'll like open a thread on good medical advice, and then you realize, oh, that's a link to these supplements they're selling, or this powder that they're pushing.
56:58
SPEAKER_05: It was just good to get some sane advice that's like pretty easy to follow.
57:04
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and you're right.
57:06
SPEAKER_04: As social media rolls on, you'll you'll come across somebody talking about have have you had this symptom?
57:13
SPEAKER_04: Have you had that symptom?
57:14
SPEAKER_04: And you're like, Yeah, I think I I did.
57:17
SPEAKER_04: And if you watch it long enough, they're trying to see you.
57:19
SPEAKER_05: There's everybody's sack of something.
57:22
SPEAKER_05: Click my link.
57:24
SPEAKER_04: Man, there's too much information out there.
57:26
SPEAKER_04: So love talking to somebody who makes a living out of working on people's hearts.
57:30
SPEAKER_05: Right.
57:31
SPEAKER_04: I had a bunch of takeaways from that, but the number one one thing I that he said more than anything is watch that blood pressure.
57:38
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
57:39
SPEAKER_04: That was a that was a big deal to him.
57:41
SPEAKER_05: It is.
57:42
SPEAKER_04: And uh, and of course he should know.
57:44
SPEAKER_04: And you're right, even on the bow hunting podcast we did with him weeks ago, half those comments were from people that were his patients.
57:52
SPEAKER_05: I know.
57:52
SPEAKER_04: He saved my daddy's life.
57:54
SPEAKER_04: He's my cardiologist, he's the best.
57:56
SPEAKER_05: Best doctor ever.
57:57
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
57:58
SPEAKER_05: I thought that was cool.
58:01
SPEAKER_04: And I'm telling you, when people are talking about you, how you treat them, that's why he in that world over there, that's why he's the goat.
58:09
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
58:09
SPEAKER_04: Just like Kevin Van Damme, I I made this post about why he's the goat, because there's great fishermen everywhere.
58:17
SPEAKER_04: And watching him work that store that day, treating every single person like they were their his long-lost go.
58:23
SPEAKER_04: That's why, that's why people get to be the goat.
58:26
SPEAKER_04: They ain't talking about themselves.
58:27
SPEAKER_04: I don't think he even has social media.
58:29
SPEAKER_05: Uh no, I couldn't find anything to tag him.
58:32
SPEAKER_04: I sent him some uh some recaps from some of the posts I put up, and how many is like a hundred and something thousand, two hundred thousand views.
58:42
SPEAKER_04: He's like, Man, I didn't realize that exactly how social media worked.
58:46
SPEAKER_04: And I said, Well, it's got a good side, but it's got a bad side.
58:50
SPEAKER_05: This was a good part though.
58:52
SPEAKER_04: And again, the reason I do social media as an older guy is I feel like it's my responsibility to fight the good fight.
59:00
SPEAKER_05: Put some good stuff out.
59:01
SPEAKER_04: That's all I do.
59:03
SPEAKER_04: And I don't have any sponsors.
59:04
SPEAKER_04: The only person I work for is Mal C Oak.
59:07
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
59:07
SPEAKER_04: And your mama.
59:09
SPEAKER_04: And she ain't paying us.
59:11
SPEAKER_04: No.
59:12
SPEAKER_04: Enjoyed that visit with Dr.
59:13
SPEAKER_04: Warren Strickland.
59:14
SPEAKER_04: And I feel like I'm kind of 99% sure I got a turkey hunt lined up for him.
59:19
SPEAKER_05: Oh, nice.
59:20
SPEAKER_04: Because he did say at the end of that.
59:22
SPEAKER_04: And looking in his his trophy room with all that stuff, sheep and and polar bear and all that, and giant whitetails, he said, cuz make no mistake about it.
59:34
SPEAKER_04: Wild turkeys are my favorite.
59:37
SPEAKER_05: That's awesome.
59:38
SPEAKER_04: I said, Man, you just keep getting higher on my totem poles.
59:41
SPEAKER_05: To have had every adrenaline rush a hunter can have, to still say turkeys are your favorite.
59:47
SPEAKER_05: To me, I feel so vindicated.
59:49
SPEAKER_04: All right.
59:49
SPEAKER_04: It's getting close to the end of September, Lorraine, so you know I'm gonna start getting comments, and I'm not asking you to spill the beans.
59:56
SPEAKER_04: I will.
59:57
SPEAKER_04: But do you have something in mind for the I do the Fistful of Dirt Halloween edition, which is becoming legendary?
1:00:05
SPEAKER_05: I've been thinking about it for a month, and I think it's all gonna take place in the Appalachian woods and mountains.
1:00:13
SPEAKER_04: Some spooky silk shirts.
1:00:14
SPEAKER_05: There's some really cool spooky stuff, and it's real 911 calls, news, clip, just everything you can imagine.
1:00:23
SPEAKER_05: And there was so much that I'm like, you how do you break it down it by region?
1:00:29
SPEAKER_05: And we're that's where that's a good place to start.
1:00:32
SPEAKER_05: I think it's the best place to start.
1:00:33
SPEAKER_04: Start there.
1:00:34
SPEAKER_04: Then you can go to Savannah, and then you can go to wherever.
1:00:37
SPEAKER_04: There's a lot they're gonna do.
1:00:39
SPEAKER_05: There's weird stuff everywhere.
1:00:40
SPEAKER_04: That's right.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_04: There's weird stuff everywhere.
1:00:43
SPEAKER_04: So yes, we will have a special Halloween edition.
1:00:47
SPEAKER_04: And I'm I'm look, I'm what she's telling me, I may I may get to listen to it when you do.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_04: I said, just put all that stuff together and I'm excited about it.
1:00:55
SPEAKER_05: It'll be fun.
1:00:56
SPEAKER_04: And it's all in good fun.
1:00:57
SPEAKER_04: Nobody gets your uh in an uproar over Halloween and what it means.
1:01:02
SPEAKER_04: We and we celebrate it up here in the Camo C.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_04: It's fun to just have a spooky day and eat fun candy corn and watch kids dress up and everybody in the South, especially I we went in, me and your mom last weekend went into Sam's.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_04: And I ain't been there in weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks.
1:01:22
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:01:23
SPEAKER_04: And they had already sold out of their Halloween stuff.
1:01:26
SPEAKER_04: This was in September, and the Christmas stuff was on five aisles.
1:01:30
SPEAKER_05: That's too early.
1:01:31
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, if you wait till October, you're too late.
1:01:35
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:01:35
SPEAKER_04: Well, uh just September and August is not Christmas.
1:01:39
SPEAKER_04: It's too hot.
1:01:40
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's too hot, especially.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_05: This is too hot.
1:01:44
SPEAKER_04: So I I hope you enjoyed that with Dr.
1:01:46
SPEAKER_04: Warren Strickland.
1:01:47
SPEAKER_04: Quick cranky update.
1:01:48
SPEAKER_04: There, high school team's doing great.
1:01:50
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
1:01:51
SPEAKER_04: JV, not so much.
1:01:52
SPEAKER_05: It's okay.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_04: That's okay.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_04: I made a post the other day.
1:01:55
SPEAKER_04: Well, they got I said, and Cranky had a great first half.
1:02:00
SPEAKER_04: He did a couple of unassisted tackles, a couple of assist tackles, and all that, but they got creamed.
1:02:05
SPEAKER_04: And I made a post that and I showed a couple of plays.
1:02:08
SPEAKER_04: I said that their crank, the team got defeated, but cranky did not.
1:02:13
SPEAKER_04: He was smiling big time.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_04: And that's what sports is all about for kids.
1:02:18
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he's learning a lot this year.
1:02:20
SPEAKER_04: He's learning a lot.
1:02:21
SPEAKER_05: Lots of balance.
1:02:22
SPEAKER_04: I'll uh I'll keep you posted.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_04: So with that said, Laureen's gonna duck back into her hole and start working on the Halloween edition.
1:02:30
SPEAKER_04: We got some more cool stuff.
1:02:32
SPEAKER_04: I'm trying to run down Billy Mole's modern-day mountain man, one of my favorite people on the planet who's kind of retiring after 25 or 30 years guiding in Alaska.
1:02:43
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna try to run him down with some stores he has.
1:02:46
SPEAKER_04: So with that said, from me and Laureen up in the Camo Cave from Mossy Oak and Mossy Oak Properties, God bless you all.
1:02:54
SPEAKER_05: We'll see you in seven days.