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When Wisdom Returns: How Life Comes Full Circle and Community Reborn · Eye Opener Society

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Hello, everyone.
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Welcome to Eye Opener Society's Thursday night sermon.
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to the recorded version of this, please remember every Thursday 7 p.m. Eastern Standard Time,
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Just jump on here and we can even take your questions too as well.
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So we look forward to having you here.
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I look forward to this little sermon because I wanted to talk about how life comes full
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circle and I don't want to bore you too much with these here details, but this year's little
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backstory is very important as I move forward through this conversation.
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For the past week or two, I had been thinking about my older podcast back when I first started
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and I was doing this with my stepdaughter.
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Her and I, we had an app and this goes back, I think it was about three years ago.
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The app is no longer around, but this is why I've been thinking about it and how life comes
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full circle and we need to sit and just wait sometimes for the beauty to start emerging
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again.
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This app was called Wisdom.
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Again, it's no longer around, but when it first came out, this was kind of one of those
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surprise apps that basically changed my life.
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This is probably one of the most well thought out apps I've ever had.
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Now the app was for podcasters.
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You had a built in audience.
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You could set up your profile, upload any shows you have, but there was something great
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about it.
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One, the creators allowed people that were handpicked by them, what they were doing,
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they were listening to podcasts.
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They selected a bunch of us and they gave us basically, I think it was called the Wisdom
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something.
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It had some sort of name to it, but we were able to immediately start broadcasting our
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podcasts over this app while everybody else that was joining had to just wait.
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I think for certain points, you had to do certain things either or.
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This app, when you signed onto it and as soon as you logged in, it was set up so the very
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first thing that happened, you were immediately put into the audience for a random podcast
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that was going on based upon whoever was going live at the time.
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You would just end up in a random podcast.
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You had the option to keep jumping to another one or just go in there and hear what it is
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you wanted to hear.
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This concept of being pushed right into a podcast was amazing to me only because I didn't
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have to worry about what do I want to listen to today or be forced to listen to only what
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I enjoy as far as a genre.
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This opened my eyes up to different types of genres.
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I was listening to everything that I never thought I would listen to depending on who
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the podcaster was, that was the difference.
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If they were really good, I would sit and listen regardless of what, if it was a different
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type of politic, if it was a different type of religion, if it was a different race.
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We were emerged in this entire little world and there was no negative feedback ever.
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You could sit, you could listen to somebody and the best thing with it, it was always
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set up so that if you were live, you could choose 5, 10 or 15 minutes for guests to come
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on.
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It was on a timer and once the timer stopped, let's say for 5 minutes, it would bump that
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person off.
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You could have people come in and instead of doing comments, they could spend about
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5 or 10 minutes giving feedback or talking about the topic, whatever the case may be.
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It was great.
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I never heard any type of negativity.
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People were always open-minded.
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People gave positive feedback.
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People gave good educational feedback as well and it was just great because it was kind
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of like this podcaster community that worked so very well across all different types of
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genres no matter what people were talking about and you were sharing ideas and sometimes
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you would start following your favorite podcasters.
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You could start collaborating with them.
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You go on their podcast at times.
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It was just so beautifully worked out.
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Sometimes even the creators of the app would join in on one of your podcasts and they would
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give positive feedback.
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It was just a wonderful, wonderful, perfect little app and it gave you the encouragement
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to keep moving forward and broadcasting little shows and talking about things you never thought
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you'd talk about.
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I love the idea.
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It was a concept of society or concept of a community where we weren't really worried
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about what it is someone was talking about.
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It was how well they were talking about it and if it struck a nerve or a chord that made
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you sit and listen to it, give feedback, understand, and learn from each other.
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That's why it was called Wisdom.
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We were using the app for about a year.
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The creators then got together all the original people that they had chosen and they said,
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listen, we were thinking about making some changes so we would like you to sit in on
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our meeting.
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Again, this was wonderful.
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We were able to sit and actually work with the creators.
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They started what was known as circles and what they said is like, we're going to start
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doing circles.
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So rather than when you joined in or as soon as you logged in, you didn't get tossed right
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into a podcast.
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You get to pick the circles you want to be part of, whatever the genre is, religion,
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crime, whatever that case may be.
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You pick and choose these circles and you could select all of them, you could select
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none of them, one of them, or you could create your own circle as well.
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That was their idea.
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So what you would have to do is then jump from circle to circle.
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Now this kind of isolated the community and you had to now seek out what it is you're
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looking for.
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And again, you went back to the way every other podcast platform was where people are
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only going to listen to what it is they want to listen to.
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Sounds like a good concept, but when you're trying to be knowledgeable or wisdom, you
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want to listen to those hard subject matters you never thought you would listen to, to
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better yourself, to educate yourself.
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You were not now able to reach out across all genres at any given moment.
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It started to fall the wayside and especially started to fall back because it just didn't
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work anymore.
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I didn't like the feel of it.
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So the developers tried to come up with something else.
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And now when you open up the app, you were forced to see people's profiles that were
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just created or have been created for a while.
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And you had to swipe left to swipe right if you liked them or didn't like them.
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And then those people that you did like will go into whatever genre they were in, whatever
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circle they were in.
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And then after a while we noticed that, well, it became just like podcasts for Tinder.
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And people were literally making like romantic or sexual profiles to meet other people that
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way.
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And then all of a sudden I lost my ability to broadcast my own show.
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They took away that wisdom star because they said, well, now everything's new and now you
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have to start all over again.
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So goodbye app, goodbye wisdom, done.
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And over the last few years I sat without it.
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No big deal.
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But now here is the lesson to this entire talk.
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It's funny how life comes full circle.
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Thinking about the way that app had worked and how I loved the way that app worked, Lizzie
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comes to me and describes the way she sees Eye Opener Society as a community, as a ministry,
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how we all work together regardless of religion, race, color, creed, whatever the case may
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be.
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Her thought, her idea, which I fell so in love with and I was wondering why, reminds
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me exactly of that wisdom app and the way it used to be.
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And once we get things together, this is just a little preemptive thing for anybody that
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is with us or is going to be with us for a while, Lizzie is in the works creating a discord
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channel where we're basically doing what the wisdom app done.
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It's not for podcasters, it's for everybody.
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And when I put that together, when I started remembering about this old wisdom app and
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how much I loved it, come in full circle.
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Lizzie's creating something that's going to be very, very similar, the way we can all
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work together as a community.
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We just fall in regardless, doctors, lawyers, janitors, technicians, whatever the case may
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be, whatever your skill, you can belong to this society on this discord app.
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You could teach others, you could talk.
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It's not just going to be Lizzie or myself giving our sermons, giving our speeches, giving
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our teachings.
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This is for everybody, for everybody to give their skills, to hone their skills by working
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with others and just talking.
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Because back then when I had that wisdom app, I remember there was one guy who was
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with the original podcasters and he was an IT tech for businesses.
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Nothing that I had any interest in, there was nothing.
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But when I listened to his shows, he was so very passionate about it.
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He knew a lot of stuff.
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But what he would do is he'd let other businesses know, I'm here not to sell you anything, but
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to teach you stuff.
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Do you have a business and this is not going correctly?
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Here's what this IT can do.
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I can help you.
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Join me, talk to me, and I could give you pointers and tricks or I could show you vendors
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and who you can hook up with and how your system should work.
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This is the exact concept that Lizzie has and it's a concept that I'm really looking forward
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to as well.
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Life comes full circle.
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So this was my story.
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Think back in your own life now.
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What is it that you had at one point that no longer exists?
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Did it come back?
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Can it come back?
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Just sit with that and understand at some point with life, some of those good things
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that are long gone can come back and recreate in a whole different way that you would never
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expect.
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So my name is Gary Dean.
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If you give us a few moments, I'm going to have the wonderful Cosmic Fairy Princess jump
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on here.
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In the meantime, I will see you later.
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Let's turn things over to Lizzie.
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Lizzie, just give me one second.
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I'll let you know when we're good.
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Lizzie, you are live, buddy.
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Go for it.
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All right.
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Thank you very much.
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That was a lovely sermon today.
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I have never heard of that app.
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And I think I would have probably lost a couple of years exploring that because that would
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be perfect.
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It's essentially what I'm doing on TikTok is just connecting to find people for their
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different perspectives.
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Because you can expand quite a bit from looking and talking to people who you agree with,
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but you can expand even more when you talk to people who you don't agree with.
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And it's funny that you were talking about that because I didn't think, because I knew
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your topic today, but I didn't think that I was going to, I was going to match.
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But what I've been exploring the last couple of days is best represented in languages.
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And to people who speak different languages, even if they know each other's language, there's
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going to be a mistranslation that happens sometimes.
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And of course, some things can be broken down to the fact that there's not a perfect translated
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word for everything from one language to another.
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English, I think, is, has one of the most words in the modern languages.
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And so there's a lot of words that have to be translated differently when we talk to
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somebody in, like, say, Italian.
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But along with that, even for words that we agree on, like bridge, for example, something
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that a lot of the languages do is they attach kind of a masculine or feminine note to the
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word.
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And I'm not going to try to repeat the word because I'm really terrible at that.
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But take bridge, for example.
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In French, bridge is a masculine term.
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So if you were to talk to a French person, they might describe a bridge as being strong
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and big.
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But in German, bridge is a feminine term, which means that if you were to ask a German
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person to describe a bridge, they might say something different, like beautiful, enchanting.
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You have them both draw this bridge, they would probably draw this, the same bridge
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or something very, very similar.
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But if you were to ask them both to write a poem about this bridge, you might have a
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vastly, vastly different meaning come out of this.
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And so different apps, like what you were talking about there, or even just giving space
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to disagree with the people around you, it gives you the opportunity to see a little
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bit more than what you would have.
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Because if somebody came to you and said, do you know what a bridge is?
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You'd be like, yeah, I know what a bridge is.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, it would sound so crazy to ask that question.
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But if you get into all the poetry and that, there's so many different meanings and different
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metaphors that can come out of that.
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And the thing is, is it sounds so simple, like languages and the definitions of things.
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But truthfully, how you define something completely changes your experience of these things.
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Something else that I've been looking at, I tried to find where it originated, but it
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has, it seems like it's just something that's been explored through throughout a bunch of
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different cultures throughout time, but Carl Jung got in on it.
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And so that's where you can find a lot of the information is from his perspective of
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it.
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But it was, I think he called it like the four stages of alchemizing or something like
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that.
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Basically, stage one is disillusion, it's where you're breaking down, there's chaos,
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you know, you're exposing what's underneath.
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Stage two is purification, where you're, you know, you're doing like healings and clarity
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starts emerging and things like that.
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Stage three would be embodying the wisdom where insight turns into like lived understanding.
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And then the fourth stage would be like it being completed, right?
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And so this is something that has been studied and related back to amongst many, many cultures.
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And so something that I do is I then would perceive it as that there is some truth to
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it for me to explore.
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And so when I get in and look at it, and I can relate myself to different stages, different
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experiences to different things, you know, I get to paint a slightly different picture
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than how I would have described these things, because he's calling it alchemizing energy
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or whatever.
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I've called it that, I honestly, I relate it more to translating things, because I get
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really into the definition.
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Because for example, going back to stage one, disillusion, where it's breaking down.
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If your language is built around the breakdown and the image that comes down to things breaking
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down, are you viewing it as death or transition of loss of something or in making space of
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something?
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Both of those experiences, they're the same thing, but it's described differently.
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You're composting or being, things are breaking, do you know what I mean?
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Like it's a, it completely changes what it is.
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Chaos is something that I used to get really in on, because it's very overstimulating and
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stressful when I can't see the patterns happening, because I'm very big on patterns.
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In order to process my chaos, I had to start viewing it as unrecognized patterns.
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I just take it back to a pattern to make it fit my definition of how things operate.
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But truly, chaos can also, from a different perspective, be viewed as the pressure you're
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feeling as you're aware of what you're not yet aware of.
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Because your body, your intuition, it starts tapping into things that you've not yet experienced.
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And that's why intuition will lead you somewhere.
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But it kind of just depends on how you're looking at it and how you would describe it.
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It doesn't have to be unpredictable.
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It can just be exciting.
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Those are the same things.
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And the thing is, is when you talk to somebody who's looking at their own chaos, and they
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describe it to you, you'll find places where you're going through the same things, where
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they've been through things you've not gone through.
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And you'll see the way that you could help them so much.
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And I say this kind of broadly, but most of the people who are going to be interested
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in listening to this kind of content are those kinds of people.
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But it's so easy to get stuck on where you can help them, where you are right because
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you've already thought of things.
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But when you look at it like you're talking in different languages, you are right.
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The bridge is beautiful, beautiful, but it's also strong.
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And so when you can see where they're not seeing the beauty in the bridge, it's easy
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to focus and try to explain how beautiful that bridge is.
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But if you both sat down playing the same game of drawing the bridge and writing a poem
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and playing with the other person's perspective of it, you'll find where they're both true.
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And when they're both true, now in the future, when you read another poem in another language,
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it might just make sense because you understand the energy of a bridge that lives inside of
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the collective twice as much as you did before.
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If you get stuck on what is already defined, then it limits that.
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And the thing is, is no matter how people translate it, the alchemizing, transmuting,
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the cleansing energy, the raising your frequency, all of these things all come down to basically
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the same thing.
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It's you expanding your awareness, letting go of what isn't for you anymore, finding
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things that were already there that you want, and kind of planting new life with that.
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But again, your definitions of all of that will cater very much to how you're experiencing
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things.
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Purification, for example, I almost hate that they call it that because I grew up in purity
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culture.
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So to me, purification seems like removing all things but what you perceive as white
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light.
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And that feels limiting to me because our souls, our expressions, we are much more than
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simply white light.
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That's just one way to look at it.
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What purification can also be, like if you're cleaning your rights and you're purifying
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it of all the dirt and stuff that was around it, that is also purification.
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The thing is, is when we hear something, a word, a spiritual concept, a suggestion from
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someone we care about, we hear it first in what we already understand.
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And so we can hear that advice from there.
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But if we can hear it from where we understand it, and then also hear it from where they
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are understanding it, it actually creates this entirely new thing that neither of you
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would have gotten to without being able to be open to exploring that.
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And that's why I would have just absolutely died on that app.
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I would have loved it so much.
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And that's why I'm trying so hard to figure out how to build a community.
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But what's funny is I keep thinking, I just need a fucking app for it.
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Because I have a Discord, I put a couple things up, I'm going to start putting the link out
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for people and start building a community there.
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But I have a hard time getting it started because in my definitions of things, it's
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too small.
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I want something bigger.
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I want an app.
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But I don't really want to make an app, I don't think.
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My point of today is that when you're misunderstanding somebody, remember that we're all actually
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speaking an entirely different language.
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And if they're trying to be understood, and they're trying to understand you, then there's
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some very beautiful things that can come out of it.
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I guess that's all for today.
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Thank you very much.
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I want to thank everyone for joining us.
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And I just wanted to give a shout out to Sarah, who's been watching us.
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And I really appreciate that.
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I appreciate everybody who listens to us and watches us live.
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And please join us every Thursday night, 7pm Eastern Standard Time, across Facebook, across
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YouTube, or catch the recording later.
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But I want to say, first off, Lizzie had such a beautiful sermon.
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We never know what each other are going to talk about.
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And she just gave me the gist.
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I'm going to speak about language.
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And she took such a different interpretation of what I thought she was going to talk about.
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That was beautiful.
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We can all learn from each other.
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I want to thank everyone again.
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We will see you really soon.