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Was Derek Jeter Overrated? Catching Up With Adam From Splendid Sports!⁩ · Sports Card Clubhouse

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And I forgot to play the music. I'm not I'm not the one who
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usually does this. So I forgot to play the music.
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Greg. We're missing Greg, but we have
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Adam from Splendid Sports, one of the Co founders here of
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Sports Card Clubhouse. Adam, thanks for joining me.
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Happy to be here my man. I am a little disappointed.
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That is the best intro. I should have brought like a
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flute. What's that like?
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It's like at the beginning where it's like whatever he's got,
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there's like 2 cards collectors. Yeah, I love it.
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So yeah, great to be with you. And what's Greg doing right now,
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you think? He's probably flying towards
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Strongsville in this very moment.
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The road to Strongsville. You've been watching some
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masters Feels like a gym gym dance voice.
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I got I got my master's flag here.
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Nice. Is it?
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Is it autographed? No, it's nothing.
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You know what it it was one of the things I miss when I lived
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in Arizona. I had my own 5 hole putting
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green on the side of my yard and I had little flags that had
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masters in them. So I I saved one.
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That was back when, you know, I lived in a nice weather place
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and I could play golf. GG season will be here soon.
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Yeah, I can't wait. Yeah, I haven't golfed in 17
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years. What?
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Yeah, I was, I was a golfer in college.
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My handicap was 11 or 12. I golfed.
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I didn't golf on the team, but I had a college membership at the
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Brunswick Golf Club in Maine. And it was at the time one of
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the harder courses in Maine. And I would pay $180 for the
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entire summer as a student. And, you know, there's 40 bucks
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greens fees every time out. So it only took me 4 1/2 times
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playing to make it up. And I would do that two weeks.
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It would take me two weeks to make up the cost.
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And when I graduated from college, I got the bill, you
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know, it said now that you're no longer a student.
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And it was like $2200. I was like, yeah, no, sorry.
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So yeah, I think I've golfed maybe five times since college.
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We got to do Mike this summer. We'll meet somewhere in the
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middle. We'll play.
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We got to play some golf, man. Yeah, that would be I I do miss
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playing a lot. I I used to play well when I was
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in Arizona. Obviously you can play more golf
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there throughout the year, but also before you have kids, you
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know that that's probably a big reason you haven't played in 17
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years, right? I'm guessing with kids it's it's
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tough to find the time sometimes to.
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Block out like. Five hours of of golf or
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whatever, or the money, Yeah, it's expensive.
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Yeah, it's very expensive and yeah, I would love to golf.
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We should do it. All right, let's do it, man.
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We're doing it. So what have you been up to,
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Adam? I don't hear from you much.
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I mean, except via text message. I know you're busy.
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You moved to Cape Cod area of Massachusetts.
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Tell the viewers what you've been up to.
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Well, I, you know, I used to make some videos on YouTube
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other, you know, I do some stuff here once in a while on sports
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card Clubhouse, which is fun, but my own channel is a little
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it's in like a little pause right now.
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Splendid Sports is on hold just because I don't know, I just
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it's not so much time. It's just kind of like, I just
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don't know sometimes what to do on there, you know?
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I mean, I, I'm still buying cards I'm adding to my
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collection. So probably just laziness, Mike,
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honestly, I don't really have a good excuse as far as why I'm
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not putting out videos these days.
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But I just, I watch just as many YouTube videos as I as I used
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to. So as far as my like viewing and
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commenting and all that stuff, that that game's pretty strong.
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But I just haven't been putting out a ton other than, you know,
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every every few weeks here on the clubhouse.
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But but yeah, I've been having fun, you know, adding to the
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collection. I got some some pretty big
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pickups that I I would like to show, you know, maybe on a turn
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back the clock with Dylan here in the next few weeks.
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I don't have them in hand yet, but I haven't really slowed down
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on that end as far as as buying cards.
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Well, I look forward to seeing those.
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Yeah, I, I was, I, I took a break from buying like big
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cards, but that ended pretty recently, so.
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I was gonna say. So, yeah, other than that, just,
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you know, waiting for the good weather to come and, you know,
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like you said, play some golf maybe this summer.
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Yeah, good. How much is fanatics paying you
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to tweet about their their current conference that they've
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got out there? Yeah, I did.
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I did see some of those videos. I'm I'm surprised.
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Why were you not invited to? Were you invited to that?
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I was not invited to that. I don't.
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I'm not friendly with fanatics. I don't try to be friendly with
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fanatics. And nothing against the people
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who are getting paid to be there and to tweet about it and post
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about it and stuff. It's just not my scene.
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In fact, I've dialed way back the amount of stuff I've done
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publicly in the hobby. I'm still collecting as much as
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ever, but I'm not trying to grow my channel anymore.
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I've cut back on newsletter stuff.
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I've cut back on a lot of stuff just because of a lack of time.
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But if if fanatics were to invite me, I would most likely
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say thanks, but no thanks. There's, there's, Oh, hang on a
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second, look at, look at this man.
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What is this guy doing here? We get the same sweatshirt on
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too. I mean, great minds think alike,
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right? There he is.
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Where are you right now, Gate A-14?
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I'm at a 14 at the Denver airport with my boy.
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Hey, return to collecting Darren.
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Darren. Hello.
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What are you guys talking about? Yeah, what's the topic?
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We were talking about how overrated Derek Jeter was.
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Oh, see. You guys later, it's good to see
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you. I was I was just watching on the
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plane episode 2 one and then part of two of the a Rod, the a
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rod documentary on HBO and Jeter is interviewed in at multiple
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times and it's a little bit uncomfortable at moments, the
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whole thing. Is it worth watching?
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Oh yeah, it's really good. That's right up my alley.
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I would. Watch that.
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Really good. OK, I'll watch it.
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I, I walk away going man, I feel sorry for a Rod because he's
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just like a dope, you know? He's so bad.
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But is but he also, I mean, he has he has baggage.
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We'll just say that it's good. Yeah.
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So, all right, Well, I do just a quick little cameo.
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We're, you know, we're headed Windsor flight Leaf.
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You got to jump in the. Boarding line in a couple
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minutes. So we're about to board headed
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to Cleveland. We will see as, as this is being
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recorded. We will see you Mike tomorrow.
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And Adam continues to resist spending time with me in person.
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I'll be watching though. I'll be watching your videos and
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Mike and I are going to golf this summer, so if you want to
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fly out the Massachusetts we could for.
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A round of golf. Just for a round of golf.
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I think I'll just take some video highlights and.
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Fair enough. All right.
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Well, that's all. Just I wanted to say to you
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guys. Good seeing you guys.
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All right. Good seeing you guys.
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Have fun. All right, bye.
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Thanks. Guys, see.
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You. So I was going to ask you that.
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Still on. He's still on there.
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There he is. There he goes.
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I was going to ask you that, Mike.
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So you are going to Strongsville Independence, whatever we're
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calling it tomorrow. Is it tomorrow?
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Yeah, I'm leaving. I have 4:00 AM tomorrow.
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OK. So I got up early today and I
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thought normally I would want to take a nap because I have today
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off. And I was like, I'd normally
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take a nap, but I thought, no, I want to be really tired tonight.
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So I go to sleep early because I have to be up at 4:00 and out
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the door at like 4:15. 4/20 OK, yeah.
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And you've got you're going to stay there one night. 2.
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Two nights. OK, well, that'll be cool.
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You didn't go there last year, did you?
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This is my first and probably last time going to Strongsville.
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OK, All right. I, you know, they've they
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changed it. When I first plan on going, it
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was all vintage in an ice hockey arena, ice rink, and I thought
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this is really cool. Then they changed it and it's
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now I guess there's a bunch of Pokémon and modern and stuff
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like that. And I just don't think I want to
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go every year to the same show. I've I've want to go to
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Chantilly, I want to go to Nashville, I want to go to
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Dallas. I want to do all these other big
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shows that I've never been to before.
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And so I might do a rotation. That's a good idea.
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Yeah. I was thinking, you know, if I
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could find the time, I would love to go to the Dallas show.
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Obviously a lot further than it used to be when I was in
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Arizona. But the Dallas show and the West
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Coast card show out in California, I mean, that's like
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in February. So it's like perfect.
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But I mean like I think it was actually the same week my kids
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had February vacation from. School.
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So if it's the same week, next week, or excuse me, next week,
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same week next year, then that might time out perfectly.
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I would. I could take the whole family
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out. California, we could get out of
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cold Massachusetts. So that could be something I, I
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do. And my man Dylan's there.
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I think he's going to go again next.
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Year I'm sold. Mike Petty, all these guys,
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great. I'm sold.
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Yeah, I should do that. Yeah.
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I I would like to take my wife and and our 16 year old, our 22
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year old just moved out last week, last Wednesday, which is
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crazy. Wow.
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Yeah. But yeah.
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So I think is that Burbank? Is that what it is?
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Burbank West Coast card show. Yeah, so, yeah.
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But you know, let's talk about how overrated Jeter was.
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You know, I am the the crazy thing is I, I have been, I mean,
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now when, when he was playing and like it was in the heat of
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the rivalry, I was not, you know, saying nice things about
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Jeter. But after the fact, looking
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back, man, he he was unbelievable.
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I mean, he just, I know a lot of people say he's overrated, but I
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really put a lot of value on that, those intangibles.
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And I feel like you really know a player when you your team goes
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up against them and like for me, the test is always in a clutch
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spot. Do you want that guy up at the
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plate, you know, that's facing your team?
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And Jeter is a no. So that tells me that, you know,
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there were some other Yankees, like like even a rod, right?
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I didn't worry when a Rod came to the plate when he was going
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against the Red Sox. I know he had the better numbers
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and all that, but runner on 2nd with Jeter up, you know, 1st and
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2nd or whatever. I was worried about Jeter and I
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was worried about like, you know, Bernie Williams and Paul
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O'Neill and Brosius and all these guys.
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But like some of the bigger ones like Soriano and and a Rod, like
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some of the bigger names, for whatever reason, Giambi, I
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didn't worry as much with those guys.
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It's very, it was very weird. So Greg, I think on a video, I
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don't know where it was last week, said that he doesn't like
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it when people call Jeter overrated.
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And I I think that it's less of a reflection on the player
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'cause I think Derek Jeter is an all time great first ballot Hall
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of Famer. There's no doubt one of the
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greatest players to ever play the game.
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But I also think that the media overrated his greatness.
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And you can be, you can be an all time great and still be
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thought of as better than you really were.
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Jeter, I think he won five Gold Gloves.
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He was not good defensively, Shouldn't have won Gold Gloves.
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It's more of a popularity contest.
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But also, if you tell me David Ortiz, who I love, was a
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terrible fielder, I'll say yeah, he was an absolutely terrible
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fielder. But I think Derek Jeter, I don't
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know what top ten, top 20 players of all time.
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I can't hate him. I there was a brief time in the
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late 90s where he was like the third or fourth best shortstop
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offensively. You know, you had Nomar, you had
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a Rod, you had Tejada who were offensively better than Jeter,
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but they only, they didn't do it long enough.
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Well, I guess a rod did, but we'll leave him out of it.
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Jeter did it for a long, long time.
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And even if you take out his last like 5 years where he was a
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detriment to his team, statistically, his career was
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amazing. He was consistently for a very
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long time the player I always wanted Nomar to be.
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Me too. And when he when he dove into
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those stands with Nomar in the dugout, refusing to play,
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allegedly refusing to play, that killed me.
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That was that was that 04? Was that right before they
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traded him? I think it was Yeah, Yeah.
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And that was one of that was a low point.
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I remember that. Just feeling like this is bad.
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Oh, that that was rough. You know, there was a few years
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ago, I think I, Dylan and I did an episode.
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It was with John Newman and Danny Black.
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The four of us got on and we were just talking about a bunch
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of things. But one of the things that we
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were talking about was name a player that you that you think
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their cards will be more appreciated over time or, or
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someone that has even more upside in the hobby, you know,
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long term. And when I actually said Jeter
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for, for, I can't remember all the reasons I gave, but I just,
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I remember thinking at the time that like, I just feel like
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Jeter's a guy who's going to, as Yankees fans from that era get
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older and older and they look back at that time period.
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I feel like Jeter's going to be more and more beloved, even
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though he's our, you know, he's already a, a darling of theirs,
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But I think he's going to, I think his cards are going to
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really stand the test of time, which I know Greg would like to
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hear that, but I, I have thought that for a long time.
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I think, you know, his cards were pretty cheap, like at least
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when I was looking at that like a few years ago compared to some
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other guys in that era even. And I don't know where they're
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at now so much, but I feel like Jeter's going to age well as far
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as his cards and, and he's got a lot of them.
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But let's say his like, you know, most famous cards and even
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the, you know, the big rare ones.
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Obviously I think he's he's going to do well.
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And I think a lot of the players will from that time period.
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But Jeter, Jeter, I think is just, he's never going to fall
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out of favor. I agree and one of those titles
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like Mickey Mantle. Yeah, and you see a little
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lacrosse appeal now too. Like we again, we couldn't stand
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Jeter when he went during like, you know, the late 90s, early
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2000s. But now I've kind of softened on
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him, right. And I think, God, when when that
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happens in the hobby, like, you know, even non Yankees fans want
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a Jeter card as time goes on. I did that with Michael Jordan.
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I hated Michael Jordan. Now I look back and I'm like,
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I'm like, you know, I want a Jordan card, right, At least for
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the collection. So I I think that will happen a
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little bit with Jeter too over time as as the years go on.
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I loved Jordan, so I didn't get into the Celtics until the the
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Celtics dynasty was basically done and I I would go to Bowden
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basketball camp at Bowden College.
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As a kid, I went six times and we would go into this film room
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where we would watch Michael Jordan highlights for like an
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hour every day and I was just obsessed with Jordan.
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I loved Michael Jordan from a young age.
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Yeah, I, I should maybe hate it is the wrong word.
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I just, I, I would just rooted against them because, you know,
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Larry Bird had just retired, right?
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Pretty much. And my, yeah, my last memories
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of Larry Bird were him laying on the the sideline, stretching his
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back, you know, and it was just kind of like man.
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And like you, I really missed the, you know, the peak years of
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Larry Bird. I obviously watched the
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highlights and all that stuff, but when I really remember Bird,
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it was towards the end of his career and the Celtics.
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So I kind of missed that prime and then all I and then we had a
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neighbor who moved in around like it was like 90, 95 or
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something like that. They moved in the neighborhood
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from Chicago. Huge Bulls fans.
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You know, I was friends with the two of the two of the the kids,
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their two boys, and they just love the Bulls.
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And, you know, we'd go over their house and I'd have to
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watch the Bulls win finals and pretend like I was like, oh,
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great, you know, and I'm like, oh, this is great.
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You know, it was killing me. But that kind of led to me just
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being like, I want to see, I'm tired of seeing Jordan win all
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these. But now I'm just like, yeah, he
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was the best, you know? And I want a card of his.
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Yeah, yeah, You brought a couple things you wanted to talk about
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too, right? Yeah, I do.
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And I actually want to circle back a little bit to, you know,
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that you, you mentioned the fanatics thing.
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You know how they're had tops, tops fanatics have in their big
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conference out in Arizona. And I've seen yeah, some some
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Youtubers and others going out there and, you know, covering
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the conferences and all that. And, you know, one of the things
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that kind of hit me when I was watching some of those videos is
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I was just like, man, I have almost like 0 to do with
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anything like new in the hobby, right, 'cause like they're, you
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know, they're covering, they're covering like, you know, new
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products, innovations, and it's all, it all sounds great, you
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know, and it's good for the overall hobby.
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I think a lot of it as far as making it more popular, but for
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me, I was just like, you know, I, I can't see a scenario where
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I'm buying any car, any new cards anymore, right?
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Like the old of the newest card I think I have in my collection
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is from 2020, a Tom Brady first year bucks card.
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And I'm looking at like where, where my collection's AT and
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where it's continuing to go. I really don't see like I'm not
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buying any Tom Brady post playing days cards.
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I don't see me really buying anything new in the future.
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You know, I, it could always change, but so I'm just like, I
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don't have any real interest or stake in any of that stuff.
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I mean, it all sounds great. I'm glad they're growing the
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hobby and everything, but all the stuff that I have and will
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want to get in the future is stuff that's already been out,
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you know what I mean? So it's just it's interesting
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because a lot of people care a lot about that stuff, but I'm
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like, I don't know, I don't know, kind of like you like even
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not that they're going to invite me, but even if I I was invited
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to something like that, I just don't really connect much with
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it. And probably a lot of vintage
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collectors that watch this podcast too, probably would
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think the same thing, you know, And so it got me more thinking.
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And then I watched a video of hobby hotline on, I think it was
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the last hobby hotline Doctor Beckett was on there with from
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PSAI think is Chris Carlin was on there.
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And it was a, it was a exchange where Chris Carlin was talking
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about his sons. And I think he said they're
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like, you know, 12 or something like in that age, you know,
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11:50 and how they're into the hobby and all that.
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And he, and then he kind of said, you know, before they
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leave the hobby, when they get into girls, you know, and, and
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then Dr. Beckett chimed in and said, you know, maybe that won't
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happen 'cause it, it happened with our generation, right?
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Like maybe not for girls, but at a certain age, you know, like in
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1994, I look at, that's kind of the last I see of my collection.
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It was like a cut off .94 where it just was like a mass exodus
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of us. Kids, you just.
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Put everything on pause and Doctor Becker was saying like he
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thinks that's not going to happen with this generation that
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the, the kids are in it now that are maybe 10 or 1112 that are
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big into it. Might stick around the hobby
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because it's cool now. I wanted to get your thoughts on
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that. I thought it was kind of an
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interesting way to look at it. I don't know, do you think some
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of these younger kids that are in it, they're going to probably
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stay in it for like the hustle part of it and flipping cards
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and stuff. But maybe it'll be a little
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different than when a lot of the hobby just left in like 94 or
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whatever it was. Yeah, you know, I think I was.
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I don't want to say I was embarrassed by it, but I
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certainly didn't want other people outside of my small group
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knowing that I was a card collector at the age of 14 years
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old, 'cause I was impossibly uncool, Adam.
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I effortlessly, effortlessly uncool.
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I called it yesterday I and I was very, very self.
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I have major self esteem issues at that age and anybody
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criticizing me for collecting cards would have wrecked me.
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And so I think that played a big part in me leaving the hobby
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'cause I I was interested in girls but they weren't
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interested in me. So it wasn't like I was
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discovering girls and I anyway, I do think that it's cooler now.
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There are a lot of teenage boys who are making a lot of money
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doing and teenage girls too, selling cards, collecting cards.
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And it's much cooler. You can make yourself through
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YouTube, through the magic of editing of YouTube.
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Look cooler. Look at what?
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Wait, look, look what I do. I'm much cooler thanks to my
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edits, right? Absolutely.
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Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I I think Doctor Beckett
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makes a good point there, and it'll be interesting to see what
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happens over these next 5 to 10 years with the younger people in
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the hobby. Yeah, yeah.
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It just got me thinking because it's, I look, it's funny, 'cause
22:10
now I look back at like the, I'm trying to figure out, like I'm
22:13
trying to remember like when I stopped collecting cards.
22:15
But again, I look back, it's like 94 and then, but I don't
22:19
remember being like, I'm putting these things away.
22:21
It just kind of gradually lost interest and then my friends
22:24
lost interest. So, and it wasn't even cause
22:27
like, oh, you know, I can't have the girls know that I'm into
22:30
cards. Like I, it was no thought of
22:32
that. It was just, I moved on to
22:34
whatever, just sports, playing sports myself, focusing more on
22:37
that. It just it kind of went away.
22:38
You put them away. So it, it something like that
22:41
could probably happen to this generation.
22:43
Like we're in this, this boom we're in.
22:46
If you want to say it started in like 2019 or whatever, you know,
22:51
we're about seven years in to that, this boom.
22:54
And if you look at like what was it 80?
22:57
What do you, what do you consider like the boom back then
22:58
like 87 to 94 or something like that?
23:01
I always say 86 to 94. Yeah.
23:04
So you're looking at like 7-8 years.
23:06
So you know we're approaching that mark really of this latest
23:10
one the the a 7-8 year mark. So I'm not going anywhere and I
23:17
doesn't sound like you are either.
23:18
So I guess we'll see, we'll kind of see where things go.
23:21
But it was it just I thought that was interesting because
23:24
like it was a good episode. I recommend that one latest
23:27
hobby hotline on for collectors. But yeah, it was just like I'm
23:32
thinking back of like I, I get more and more nostalgic now for
23:36
the for like 80s, for the 80s and the 90s, early 90s.
23:41
I always have been a nostalgic guy, but now with kids and stuff
23:44
and like just seeing the world now.
23:48
I like I'll watch an 80s movie and it's just like even the, the
23:52
kind of the edgy ones of the time, they're still like so
23:55
wholesome, you know? And then now you see stuff and
23:57
it's like man, stuff on Netflix that like any kids can watch.
24:02
And it's just like so more perverted now and like just
24:06
crazy. Like the, the edgy stuff now is
24:09
almost like, whoa, jeez, this is like insane.
24:11
And I look back. I know our parents probably
24:13
thought the same thing, but oh man, I watch like a, a John
24:17
Candy movie or something and I'm just like, man, these are the
24:21
best these movies. And just like the whole culture.
24:24
I I really, it's growing stronger and stronger, you know,
24:27
and maybe that's why some of these junk wax era cards are
24:30
getting more and more popular and valuable is because, you
24:34
know, we're looking back and it's just like we're kind of
24:37
missed those days and. And we have money.
24:40
Yeah. Yeah, our generation has reached
24:42
that age, you know, mid to late 40s where we finally have money
24:47
for the first time. And we're reminiscing.
24:49
We're nostalgia for those those days.
24:53
I suppose I mentioned John Candy.
24:55
This, this is I still got it. It's still wrapped up.
24:57
This was a just a random purchase on eBay was a Hostess.
25:03
I think it's it's considered like his rookie.
25:06
It's a Hostess John Candy from I think it was 1988 from Have you
25:10
ever seen the movie The Great Outdoors?
25:12
Of course I love that. Classic, classic.
25:15
And I was just like, I don't know, I was just searching John
25:18
Candy stuff 'cause I, I saw there was a documentary about
25:21
him and it was really, really good.
25:23
And I, I love his movies. Always did, even when I was a
25:26
kid and I saw this thing and it's like Hostess John Candy.
25:31
I'm like, I'll take it. I, it was like a few bucks.
25:34
But little things like that, I love, I love, I love 80s stuff,
25:39
man. Late 80s is like peak ME.
25:43
Here's a little sacrilege for you.
25:45
I love John Candy too. One of my all time favorite
25:47
movies is Home Alone. The original Home Alone and I
25:49
can't stand the John Candy appearance.
25:53
I don't. It's completely pointless and
25:57
it's not that funny. He's adorable as he always is
26:00
was, but it wasn't really that funny.
26:04
And she didn't even need to ride with them because the family
26:09
arrived immediately after she did.
26:11
So just completely pointless. It's it's like, hey, let's get
26:13
John Candy in our movie. Yeah, they actually kind of
26:17
mentioned it in the I don't know if you saw there was a
26:19
documentary about him, but I think it's on like one of the
26:22
big ones. But it came out in the last year
26:25
and it was really good. But I think they kind of hint at
26:28
that, like it was a very odd thing and he I think like he
26:32
agreed to do it and then like the next day he showed up and
26:34
they filmed his part real quick. Like so it was yeah, they talk
26:39
about that where it was a very the late, the woman who just,
26:42
she just passed away, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she, she was
26:45
talking about it 'cause they were really good friends.
26:48
So, yeah, but yeah, that, but you know, even like summer
26:52
rental, you know, it's just, I, I watched that one again
26:56
recently and it's, you know, it's some of it's corny and
26:58
stuff, but there it, it's so funny.
27:01
It's still funny. And again, even some of the like
27:03
the, the edgy stuff, it's still not like what it what the stuff
27:08
is now. You know what I mean?
27:09
It's crazy. Well, you talk about edgy stuff
27:11
and and our parents and my mom took me to see Uncle Buck in
27:15
theaters. Was that 801988?
27:17
Maybe 89? Yep, I think that's right.
27:20
So I would have been 9 or 10 years old and my sister was
27:23
three years older than me. And my mom took us in there and
27:27
there's a little, there's like mild swearing.
27:29
And my mom flipped out and pulled us out of the movie 20
27:32
minutes in. And I wasn't able to watch it
27:35
until I was a little bit older, probably into my teenage years.
27:37
And it came on TV. But I still tease her for that.
27:41
Now she's she's 76 and she swears a lot.
27:44
And I swear a lot. And I'm like, Remember, Remember
27:47
when we went to see Uncle Buck? Yeah, yeah, it's things have
27:51
changed. I I got another thing I wanted
27:54
to ask you or actually did you want to bring a topic?
27:56
I know we both had a couple of topics, but did you go for it?
27:59
OK, so I've been thinking about this too, because again, I, I
28:02
still like stay pretty like I, I watch a lot of YouTube videos in
28:08
the hobby and also, you know, on Instagram follow a bunch of
28:12
accounts and stuff that I followed for years.
28:15
And, you know, a lot of the channels I watch or, or, or
28:18
Instagram accounts I follow along are I guess what you'd
28:21
call collector accounts. So they're, you know, maybe they
28:24
don't talk about the industry so much or, you know, a lot of that
28:29
stuff. But they but they document their
28:30
collection and they focus more of it on that, you know, as far
28:34
as their channel. And one of the things that,
28:38
yeah, I was thinking about was what for me, like what makes a
28:42
good collector channel? What makes a good our account
28:45
that you'd want to like follow and and keep keep watching or
28:49
looking at their stuff? And for me, I think it's going
28:54
along for the ride as far as like the collection.
28:56
A lot of people do. I think a good job of show
28:59
showing what like their goals are long term goals for their
29:02
collection. Certain runs they're doing, like
29:05
some of the ones that come to mind on like YouTube are, you
29:09
know, like baseball collector Mike, you know?
29:11
Exactly what I was thinking. Yeah, he does a great job of
29:13
like going over here's what I'm and over the years, right, he
29:17
stayed pretty consistent in what he's collecting.
29:20
And you almost you almost feel invested in in his collection
29:24
is, oh, he got another one or he needed that one.
29:27
And even like a John Mangini, who, you know, he'll show a
29:30
bunch of different stuff, but he's got like a, a lifelong goal
29:33
of collecting a card from every vintage set.
29:37
And again, he doesn't really keep track too much of it.
29:40
It doesn't like tell us like, hey, I'm 70% of the way there,
29:43
which I would love. I know it's probably a lot of
29:46
work he doesn't want to do, but I like that stuff.
29:48
I, I really like if you can see a progression, right?
29:52
And I've been kind of turned off lately with some of the
29:55
accounts, especially on like Instagram that I thought were
29:58
like, you know, fellow Tom Brady collectors or fellow 90s
30:02
collectors or certain players and whatever it is they collect.
30:05
A lot of it is nothing even I have too much in common of.
30:08
But they kind of laid it out nicely as far as like, here's
30:11
here's what I'm trying to achieve with this thing over the
30:13
years. And I followed along and I felt
30:16
like, hey, they're, you know, they're getting closer and
30:18
closer to what they're trying to do.
30:20
But then pretty recently I'm seeing some of these accounts
30:23
and a lot of these people I've never talked to or anything, but
30:25
a lot of them are now I'm seeing like changing course or like
30:29
picking up cards and then selling them pretty quickly.
30:32
And I'm just like, well, where are you?
30:34
That's like, doesn't that defeat what you're trying to do?
30:36
Or like, you know, they, they would show a card and they're so
30:39
proud of it. And then like a few months
30:41
later, now it's for sale or whatever.
30:43
So it's like, again, they people can do whatever they want with
30:46
that. I'm not saying that's bad to do,
30:48
but it from a like a viewing interest thing for me to stay
30:51
invested. That kind of hurts.
30:53
Like I almost want to like not follow along anymore, you know
30:56
what I mean? Because I feel like, well, all
30:57
right, we're going backwards now.
30:59
I get, I get it, you maybe you needed money for a new roof or
31:01
something, but that that from, I don't know, I'll get your
31:05
thoughts on that too. Like do you follow along
31:07
anybody's collection and and do you kind of get disappointed
31:11
sometimes if you feel like it's not going where you would hope
31:14
it was going? I don't know.
31:16
I. Just multi part question.
31:19
I'm going to try to address this the the first person I thought
31:22
of was baseball collector Mike Moynihan.
31:25
When you started talking about this before you even said it,
31:27
because I've been following him longer than anybody and he and I
31:31
collect similarly in some ways. But in some ways I have 0
31:36
interest in collecting a lot of the things that he collects.
31:39
But I'm also very interested in seeing him get them, like you
31:42
said, like, oh, he got another one.
31:45
And I think it's less to do with the collection, more to do with
31:49
the personality. And, you know, Mike and I are
31:52
pretty similar ages. I think he's, I don't know, four
31:56
years older than me, something like that, three years older
31:59
than me. And he also just has a, he's
32:05
going to text me and make fun of me for saying this.
32:06
But he has kind of a magnetic personality.
32:09
I don't agree with a lot of, I shouldn't say a lot.
32:11
I don't agree with some of the stuff that he says, but I I
32:15
don't, that doesn't bother me. Like he, he has the kind of
32:19
personality that I would hang out with him just like you, just
32:23
like Dylan. And there are a lot of people
32:26
like that. And Mike just happens to put out
32:28
a lot of videos too, which makes it easy to follow him.
32:30
And he he does a good job of documenting his journey.
32:35
Greg is another one that has a magnetic personality, in my
32:40
opinion, the kind of personality that I, the kind of person that
32:43
I hang out with somebody in their mid to late 40s who enjoys
32:49
life, enjoys cards, likes a good joke, and so following whatever
32:55
they're collecting. Like Greg collects pirate carts.
32:57
I'm not interested in pirate carts, but I love watching those
32:59
videos of him getting them. It's just fun.
33:03
Yeah. Yeah.
33:05
It's a combination of both if. Mike, if Mike or Greg change
33:10
course and they start selling cars, it wouldn't bother me.
33:13
If they do something that I wasn't interested in anymore, I
33:16
would just unfollow. I wouldn't get bothered.
33:20
But I'm I'm all for selling cars when you need to changing
33:28
course. I know I've changed course half
33:30
a dozen times in the last five years, so I wouldn't say that
33:34
would bother me necessarily. But I get it doesn't changing
33:39
course is OK. I mean, it's I'm and again, it's
33:41
it's not like I'm hey, this you're not as good of a
33:43
collector 'cause you just change course.
33:45
It's not like that. It's just for me, like I kind of
33:47
lose interest a little bit, not in the person, but in like the
33:50
point of the channel other than like, hey, this is a cool
33:53
person. I like this guy, you know, he's
33:54
cool. But for me like to keep
33:57
following along with like their videos and keep watching their
34:00
videos. I also like, you know, to know
34:04
where, what are you trying to build?
34:05
Like what are you building? And if you keep changing course
34:08
or you're like selling cards that you said you were, cards
34:12
that you were, you're, you're gonna keep till you're 65.
34:15
We all make changes. But from, from a like a viewing
34:18
standpoint, I lose a little bit of interest.
34:21
And you know, I more of it might be Instagram.
34:24
I'm kind of annoyed at Instagram lately.
34:26
And like, just like people that are doing like sales, like story
34:31
sales, selling off cards and like, again, feel free.
34:35
It's, that's what you do, you know, that's what you can do.
34:37
It's no problem. But like, Hey, I remember when
34:40
you picked that card up and then it was like, it was like a big
34:43
great thing. And that wasn't that long ago
34:45
because you were building a run of this and now you're selling
34:49
it off and it's like, all right, that's whatever, do whatever you
34:51
want. But like, maybe I'm not going to
34:53
follow your account anymore because I don't know what you're
34:56
doing with your, I don't get it. Like what is your point of
34:59
what's the point of having a, an account where you're documenting
35:02
what your pickups are and stuff? If there's no like progression
35:05
of towards some goal for me, you know, that's, that's just the
35:08
way I look at it with, with this stuff, other than like, Hey, we
35:11
could be great friends. But if I'm going to follow your
35:13
channel or follow your account, I need to feel invested a little
35:17
bit as far as like what you're trying to build, you know what I
35:19
mean? Yeah, and I also like to see a
35:23
variety of topics I don't want to see or a variety of cards.
35:27
And I'll give you an example, not a collector necessarily,
35:29
although he, I guess he collects a little bit trike.
35:32
Troy Reich seems like a great guy.
35:34
I really enjoyed his channel for a long time and then all of a
35:39
sudden started changing and not not changing, but doing the same
35:42
topic every time. Can I profit off this?
35:45
Can I profit off this? And it's very popular.
35:49
He's doing extremely well, so good for him.
35:51
It just doesn't interest me. I don't want to watch that type
35:53
of video every single time. If you if you're going and
35:57
buying collections and doing that type of thing, that's
36:01
really interesting to me. I really want to watch those
36:04
videos even though I don't do it myself, but if almost every
36:09
video is can I profit? That doesn't really interest me,
36:12
but just the just the name will make me lose interest.
36:17
I hear you. Yep.
36:18
And yeah, even something like that where someone buys a
36:21
collection, they do a series of videos of here's what I'm going
36:23
to keep, here's what I'm going to sell these cards to afford
36:27
the cards that I'm. I love stuff like that.
36:29
Because again, it's like, you know, you've seen a progression
36:31
of a story and it might conclude on that and then maybe there's
36:35
another one, but you know, you go along for the ride.
36:38
And I think again, to bring Mike back up, it's, it says a lot
36:44
when something you know, he's been, I don't know what is it 10
36:46
/ 10 years he's been making videos consistently.
36:50
That is, that is, that's impressive because you know, I
36:54
even myself would like, I had a good like 3 year run where I, I
36:57
didn't even make that many videos, but it was, you know,
36:59
maybe on a weekly basis type thing.
37:01
And then life just gets in the way.
37:03
Sometimes you go through different stages where it's not
37:05
in the cards, so to speak, to consistently make videos, but to
37:09
be able to do that. I don't know, are you feeling
37:12
that yourself? And you mentioned earlier that
37:14
you're scaling back as far as videos and newsletters.
37:18
Is that just, are you kind of burnt out with some of it or
37:22
what are you? What are you doing?
37:23
Not not even close to burnt out. There are 1,000,000 videos I
37:26
still want to do, it's just a matter of time for me.
37:29
I got the biggest promotion of my career two months ago at work
37:34
and I don't have the time to put in anymore.
37:39
I'm still doing, still trying to do 3 videos a week and
37:42
occasionally a fourth, but I used to do 5 and now I'm
37:47
struggling to get to 3. The newsletter, I had two
37:52
newsletters a couple months ago, I'm down to 1 and I'm not even
37:56
updating that all that often anymore.
37:58
And I don't do social media much anymore.
38:02
I just the, the time, man, it's, it's crazy.
38:04
And I I get invited onto the live streams occasionally, not
38:07
very often, but occasionally. And I have to consider the
38:12
amount of time I put into this when my family relies on my
38:16
income solely from my job and I have to do a great job at my day
38:22
job. And if I don't, then this all
38:25
goes away. Very similar to me, man.
38:28
Yeah, it's a lot of it is, you know, I'm self-employed, have
38:32
been for a while. So you almost feel guilty when,
38:36
you know, I like not like my dad.
38:38
He was, you know, he would go to work, you know, he'd work nights
38:41
and he'd come home and he didn't really talk much about his job
38:44
or anything. And he didn't probably think too
38:46
much about it. So it was just kind of like a
38:48
lot of a lot of our dads where maybe they just, you know, 9 to
38:51
5, they're thought about work while they're at work and they
38:53
come home. And it was just as someone who's
38:56
self-employed and works from home and stuff, a lot of the
38:59
time it's hard to turn it off. And then it's like, you know, if
39:02
I go and make a sports card video, I'm almost like feeling
39:04
guilty, like I should be using that time for either work or
39:08
obviously the family. So, yeah, it's just, you know,
39:11
it's a tough period of time, which again, is all the reason
39:13
why I respect people who have been able to do it consistently.
39:16
And yeah, I mean, that's it's, it's a big, big commitment over
39:22
time to be able to do that. But I'm thankful for it too.
39:24
Because if it wasn't for guys like, you know, John Mangini and
39:27
and Mike and those guys and Dylan who consistently put on
39:30
videos, I wouldn't have a lot to watch 'cause if it was just guys
39:34
like me and some of us who are like sporadic, it wouldn't as it
39:38
wouldn't be as fun to be a viewer out there.
39:40
Because I can always rely on a video from from you and Greg
39:44
and, and Dylan and those guys. So I'm thankful that there are
39:48
people who can stay consistent. Otherwise, I don't know, I, I
39:51
kind of gave up watching a lot of stuff that I used to watch.
39:54
Like I don't watch that much much sports anymore, TV and
39:59
stuff like that. Now it's like I just watched
40:02
like YouTube, which is crazy to think about.
40:04
I watch more sports than ever. Shout out Theo Clemente
40:08
Collector 2. Love his channel and Jake Wax
40:11
pack wisdom these guys. I enjoy following their
40:15
collections as well and I'm not interested in collecting
40:18
Clemente cards but seeing Theo get another one or talk about a
40:22
Clemente card and Jake buying these pre war Red Sox and
40:27
vintage Red Sox cards that are kind of a little bit obscure.
40:31
Although his last one, the Ted Williams not so obscure lot of
40:36
fun. I'm glad you brought up that
40:38
Theo is a perfect one too. I mean there's so many I could
40:41
have mentioned to earlier, but he's a perfect example.
40:44
Like he doesn't do a ton of pick up videos and stuff, but over
40:47
the years of him being on YouTube I you could see the
40:50
progression of like, hey, I'm a Clemente collector and I want to
40:53
build an awesome collection of Clemente cards.
40:55
I have. He has a list or and he's
40:58
periodically checking that off and it progresses.
41:01
I love that, you know, I love following along with something
41:04
like that. That's, that's a perfect
41:05
example. Same with Jake too.
41:06
You know, he does a great job of kind of, you know, I mean
41:09
showing where his collection's going.
41:11
So I wish I was better at that. As far as I, I'm very organized
41:16
as a collector now, but obviously don't do a good job of
41:19
like documenting that on YouTube.
41:22
But I, I, if I do start making videos again, I really want to
41:25
focus on that as far as like showing the journey and where
41:29
it's been, where it's at and then where I want to go with it.
41:32
And then anytime I inch closer to my goals, make a video about
41:37
that. I mean, that's that's content I
41:39
like. Yeah, cool.
41:42
Well, Adam, this is great. Thanks for joining me.
41:44
Yeah, thanks for having me on. Greg will be back for the next
41:48
one, I assume so, you know, people can.
41:50
People don't have to worry about listening to me next time.
41:54
This is great. All right, all right, I'll see
41:57
you soon. Let's let's golf this summer.
42:00
Let's do it. I'm going to go watch some
42:01
Masters right now, actually. All right.
42:03
Thanks for taking a break from it.
42:05
All right. Thanks everybody for watching.