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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to the best betting show ever. I'm Lawrence Presman.
- 0:04Speaker 1: This is our NFL addition. It's myself, Joe Ranieri and
- 0:09Speaker 1: Art to Caesar. There they are guys, our first show ever.
- 0:14Speaker 1: It's our NFL preview show. This is not what our
- 0:18Speaker 1: show is going to look like, which does begin Monday,
- 0:21Speaker 1: September one. Before we get into our actual show, let's
- 0:25Speaker 1: get straight into a bet. Art de Caesar from the
- 0:28Speaker 1: Westgate joining us risk manager. There aren't you like the
- 0:32Speaker 1: forty nine ers to win the division?
- 0:34Speaker 2: There?
- 0:34Speaker 1: Plus one fifty interesting division. I think we're going to
- 0:37Speaker 1: see a better Arizona team, a worse Seattle team, and
- 0:41Speaker 1: a similar La Rams team.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Why do you like this bet? Hey?
- 0:46Speaker 3: You know pres I've seen even as high as plus
- 0:48Speaker 3: twenty to eight around town. So if you shop around
- 0:51Speaker 3: a little bit, you can get a nice number on
- 0:53Speaker 3: the Niners. Listen, I think the Rams are going to
- 0:55Speaker 3: be good, but Stafford worries me a little bit.
- 0:58Speaker 2: I'm with you.
- 0:59Speaker 3: I think Arizona's going to be a little bit better,
- 1:00Speaker 3: and I think Seattle's going to be a little bit
- 1:02Speaker 3: better as well. I think the division's pretty good, but
- 1:04Speaker 3: the Niners should bounce back if they stay healthy. I
- 1:07Speaker 3: like the quarterback, I like the coach, and the schedule
- 1:10Speaker 3: sets up real nice for the forty nine ers.
- 1:12Speaker 1: Yes it does, and I'll be talking about that but
- 1:14Speaker 1: a little later as well. We're gonna go through four
- 1:18Speaker 1: Art de Caesar bets forty nine ers to win the
- 1:20Speaker 1: division is one of them, Joe Rnari anything to add.
- 1:24Speaker 4: It's all about health with the forty nine ers because
- 1:27Speaker 4: right now they don't have anybody healthy and we haven't
- 1:29Speaker 4: even made it to week three of the preseason if
- 1:32Speaker 4: we can't get anybody out there, so they should based
- 1:35Speaker 4: upon that last play schedule they've got, they should.
- 1:38Speaker 5: Win a lot of games.
- 1:39Speaker 4: But they we all know who's gotta stay healthy on
- 1:42Speaker 4: that team for them to do it.
- 1:43Speaker 5: Hard.
- 1:46Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it.
- 1:47Speaker 5: I agree.
- 1:47Speaker 3: But it's a little anti Stafford too. I understand he's practiced,
- 1:51Speaker 3: but I'm a little worried about him. He's an old
- 1:53Speaker 3: guy and they have nothing behind him.
- 1:57Speaker 1: We know that, Yeah, years old and really fragile.
- 2:02Speaker 2: Last year.
- 2:03Speaker 1: Will be interesting to see what the San Francisco forty
- 2:07Speaker 1: nine ers and the Rams do in that division as
- 2:10Speaker 1: well as Hey, I'm carrying a lot of talk on
- 2:14Speaker 1: Arizona over and win loss. So I'm hearing a lot
- 2:18Speaker 1: of talk that Arizona might be coming into this year
- 2:21Speaker 1: a little better than last. Art and Caesar, let's turn
- 2:24Speaker 1: our attention to the Green Bay Packers. Are they gonna
- 2:29Speaker 1: make the playoffs this year?
- 2:31Speaker 3: I think they are, and I think it's a cheap
- 2:33Speaker 3: price minus one twenty five, minus one thirty I've seen
- 2:36Speaker 3: as high as one thirty five out there. I understand
- 2:39Speaker 3: the division's tough, but every year I feel like the
- 2:43Speaker 3: Packers have just been right in the mix there. They
- 2:45Speaker 3: draft well, I think Love will take another step, and
- 2:49Speaker 3: I just feel like I'm not asking them to win
- 2:52Speaker 3: the division. I'm not even asking them to win any
- 2:54Speaker 3: playoff games. Just make the playoffs. And I like the
- 2:56Speaker 3: cheap price.
- 2:58Speaker 1: Yeah, minus one twenty it does seem pretty good. But
- 3:02Speaker 1: that division is a bitch, and I think Minnesota will
- 3:05Speaker 1: be the wild card.
- 3:06Speaker 2: Joe, any thoughts on that Green Bay? Bet a Green Bay?
- 3:09Speaker 5: This guy is the limit.
- 3:10Speaker 4: I'm with Art here. I don't trust Minnesota at this point.
- 3:15Speaker 4: I'm not a kleb Love fan, except he does have
- 3:18Speaker 4: some fantastic nail polish.
- 3:20Speaker 5: And he cries a lot.
- 3:21Speaker 4: Outside of that, I don't see a whole lot happening
- 3:23Speaker 4: in that division that doesn't involve Green Bay.
- 3:26Speaker 5: When it's all said and done.
- 3:28Speaker 1: Guys, you're watching the best damn sports betting show. This
- 3:30Speaker 1: is a news show. Art to Caesar, Joe Raniian myself
- 3:34Speaker 1: will be doing this show Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and
- 3:38Speaker 1: Friday every week. All your starts on September one. That's Monday,
- 3:44Speaker 1: September first. It'll be a forty five minute show and
- 3:47Speaker 1: it'll be chalk full of betting information art. We're gonna
- 3:52Speaker 1: stay with you. You like the forty nine ers to
- 3:54Speaker 1: win the division. You think the Packers will make the playoffs.
- 3:58Speaker 1: You are not high on the Miami Dolphins, and neither
- 4:01Speaker 1: am I.
- 4:04Speaker 3: I'm not president, and I think let's just go to
- 4:06Speaker 3: the vision. We know who the Bills are. I think
- 4:09Speaker 3: Buffalo obviously they leave them alone. But the Jets and
- 4:12Speaker 3: New England have gotten a lot better. And to me,
- 4:14Speaker 3: Miami's done nothing. And I'm not in on the coach.
- 4:17Speaker 3: We know the quarterbacks that hit away from retirement. That
- 4:20Speaker 3: number sitting at seven and a half. I like that under.
- 4:22Speaker 3: I even like alternates of six and a half under
- 4:25Speaker 3: where you can get some plus money. I never want
- 4:28Speaker 3: to say go lay two dollars or two twenty, but
- 4:31Speaker 3: that on a note, to make the playoffs seems like
- 4:33Speaker 3: a good bet too. But under seven and a half
- 4:36Speaker 3: is the move. On the Dolphins, it would be really
- 4:38Speaker 3: hard for me to see them to win eight or games.
- 4:41Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a lot of disarray coming out of Miami.
- 4:44Speaker 1: It doesn't even feel like there's a lot of love
- 4:46Speaker 1: and harmony on the team either. And I agree with you,
- 4:50Speaker 1: New England looks better. I don't necessarily agree that the
- 4:54Speaker 1: Jets do. However, Joe, your thoughts on the Dolphins and
- 4:57Speaker 1: maybe something else in that division.
- 5:00Speaker 5: The Jets suck.
- 5:02Speaker 4: Let's not make any statement, but there's degrees of sucking,
- 5:05Speaker 4: pres and you know this, so there's.
- 5:09Speaker 5: Kind of a level here.
- 5:10Speaker 4: I think they're gonna suck less than they did last year,
- 5:13Speaker 4: but it's still the Buffalo Bill's division, and I don't
- 5:17Speaker 4: see any other team in that division competing with him.
- 5:20Speaker 4: So on kudos if they get the five hundred, I
- 5:23Speaker 4: think that's a positive step in the right direction.
- 5:26Speaker 1: Yeah, and Art, I'm with Joe on that. I think
- 5:29Speaker 1: the New York Gene Jets suck as well. I don't
- 5:32Speaker 1: see an improvement here, but either way, you know, but
- 5:36Speaker 1: with the Dolphins and the Jets, I think we're looking
- 5:39Speaker 1: at one in one, so I think you know. I
- 5:41Speaker 1: like that, Bet, I said right at the beginning, I'm
- 5:43Speaker 1: not high on the Dolphins either.
- 5:45Speaker 2: This division is set.
- 5:48Speaker 1: For the Bills, and we're gonna talk about this a
- 5:50Speaker 1: little later, but at minus three thirty, I know, Art,
- 5:53Speaker 1: you don't like laying juice, but man, I think Josh
- 5:57Speaker 1: Allen could get injured and they still win the division.
- 5:59Speaker 1: Any quick thoughts.
- 6:00Speaker 3: There, Wow, that's interesting. One thing though on the Jets.
- 6:05Speaker 3: Their coaching was so bad last year. Yes, the Aaron
- 6:09Speaker 3: Rodgers situation was such a disaster. It can only be
- 6:13Speaker 3: positive this year with Aaron Glenn and I don't love
- 6:16Speaker 3: Justin Fields, but those are positive things where the two
- 6:20Speaker 3: things they had previous were so negative. I'm not saying
- 6:22Speaker 3: the Jets are winning nine games, but I think they'll
- 6:25Speaker 3: be improved just from that aspect.
- 6:27Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough.
- 6:30Speaker 1: Titans, new quarterback, new team, really new system. You liked
- 6:37Speaker 1: them over and wins correlated to that division, I assume
- 6:42Speaker 1: tell us about the Titans and why you're high on them, Well, yeah, you.
- 6:48Speaker 3: Have to start with the divisions. No good, right the
- 6:50Speaker 3: Cults seem like they could be good, but they can't
- 6:53Speaker 3: figure out their quarterback. I'm never a believer in Lawrence
- 6:57Speaker 3: and Jacksonville and the Titans defense always showed me something.
- 7:02Speaker 3: I believe in them. If cam Ward gives them anything,
- 7:05Speaker 3: I think at that five and a half and now
- 7:07Speaker 3: even some six is out there, I can see them
- 7:10Speaker 3: getting to that. And that also kind of goes with
- 7:13Speaker 3: me thinking, you know, if you could find cam Ward
- 7:15Speaker 3: out there at four to one to win offensive Rookie
- 7:18Speaker 3: of the Year, I don't hate that either. I know
- 7:20Speaker 3: Genti's amazing. He's gonna put up big numbers. But you know,
- 7:24Speaker 3: if a quarterback, especially a rookie, can go win seven
- 7:26Speaker 3: or eight games, which is possible, he'll get Rookie of
- 7:29Speaker 3: the Year. But I believe in the Titans because I
- 7:31Speaker 3: don't believe in the rest of the division.
- 7:33Speaker 1: Yeah, and if the Titans do end up having a
- 7:36Speaker 1: good year and if they can find a way to
- 7:38Speaker 1: win that division, I.
- 7:39Speaker 2: Agree with you.
- 7:40Speaker 1: I think that's a good bet for MVP Joe. Any
- 7:43Speaker 1: thoughts on the Tennessee Titans.
- 7:45Speaker 4: All about cam Ward and bringing him along. If I
- 7:49Speaker 4: think he's gonna have some success this year. I think
- 7:52Speaker 4: they'll be better than they were a year ago. Not
- 7:55Speaker 4: saying much, but that is also what that divisions A
- 7:59Speaker 4: little head scratch as well. I think if cam Ward
- 8:01Speaker 4: comes along, I think Tennessee's on the right path.
- 8:05Speaker 2: Joe Niary, Art the Caesar.
- 8:07Speaker 1: You're watching the best damn sports betting show, and yes,
- 8:10Speaker 1: that is the name of our new show. Hit the
- 8:13Speaker 1: like button, guys, comment. I read all the comments. I
- 8:17Speaker 1: will respond to a bunch of them. So that's Art
- 8:20Speaker 1: the Caesar for you. The forty nine Ers to win
- 8:22Speaker 1: the division, the Packers to make the playoffs, the Dolphins
- 8:27Speaker 1: under win total, and Tennessee over win total. Now let's
- 8:32Speaker 1: get to Joe Nieri's book.
- 8:34Speaker 2: Bets.
- 8:35Speaker 4: Well, mine are going to be pretty simple because mine
- 8:37Speaker 4: are all going to be about fading teams. Here, the
- 8:40Speaker 4: first team that I am going to fade is you
- 8:42Speaker 4: know what they say, if you've got four quarterbacks, you
- 8:45Speaker 4: don't have any And the Browns are an absolute hot mess.
- 8:49Speaker 4: If you're rolling out Joe Flacco and his AARP card
- 8:54Speaker 4: out there to start this season and you still can't
- 8:57Speaker 4: figure out what Canny Pikett brings it in because he
- 9:00Speaker 4: hasn't been healthy, and you got two rookies that you
- 9:03Speaker 4: have to decide who is going to be the future
- 9:06Speaker 4: of that organization and which one are you going to
- 9:08Speaker 4: keep on the roster. I think Stefanski's in trouble. I
- 9:12Speaker 4: think the organization's in trouble. I count maybe three wins
- 9:17Speaker 4: on this schedule this year if they are lucky. But
- 9:21Speaker 4: I don't think things are gonna go very well for
- 9:24Speaker 4: the Cleveland Browns. They are in absolute fade in a
- 9:27Speaker 4: lot of ways for me this year present.
- 9:30Speaker 1: Yeah, and it makes sense, Joe, But here's my concern.
- 9:34Speaker 1: And I will throw this to you. It's too intuitive
- 9:37Speaker 1: a bet.
- 9:38Speaker 2: It's too.
- 9:42Speaker 1: Well just square if you will. It makes too much sense.
- 9:49Speaker 1: They still have a prideful defense, there are still weapons.
- 9:54Speaker 1: No man has better five o'clock shadow than their coach,
- 9:58Speaker 1: So there are factors that out Cleveland. Uh, it just
- 10:02Speaker 1: it's too it makes too much sense to me. I'm
- 10:05Speaker 1: gonna stay away from that bet.
- 10:07Speaker 2: What do you think, art?
- 10:08Speaker 3: I think Joe hit it right off the top. Their
- 10:11Speaker 3: most perplexing thing is what they're doing with the quarterback position.
- 10:14Speaker 3: And if you don't have a quarterback in the NFL,
- 10:16Speaker 3: you can't win. They signed Kenny Pickett and then they
- 10:19Speaker 3: draft two quarterbacks. I mean, and you got flack though
- 10:23Speaker 3: it's it's a weird situation.
- 10:26Speaker 4: They're still paying him.
- 10:30Speaker 2: Luckily, we didn't.
- 10:32Speaker 3: Even think about him. Yeah, that's true, right price, Yeah
- 10:36Speaker 3: he got hurt. But I don't know. They just seem
- 10:38Speaker 3: like a mess. And even if you don't love Pittsburgh
- 10:40Speaker 3: and you don't love Cincinnati because they have warts, they're
- 10:44Speaker 3: the worst team in that division. They just are. So Yeah,
- 10:47Speaker 3: I think even if it's square, it doesn't matter. It's
- 10:51Speaker 3: a bet that will win because the Browns aren't gonna
- 10:53Speaker 3: win games.
- 10:54Speaker 2: And I respect that.
- 10:55Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay off of it. But you certainly can't
- 10:58Speaker 1: take the over on Cleveland, that's.
- 11:02Speaker 2: For sure, Joe. Who else are you fading?
- 11:04Speaker 4: All right, let's fade another team that can't figure out
- 11:07Speaker 4: the quarterback position. I think we can all agree quarterbacks
- 11:11Speaker 4: matter in this league.
- 11:13Speaker 5: Coaching matters in this league.
- 11:15Speaker 4: But if your choice is Danny Dimes or a quarterback
- 11:19Speaker 4: who has to take plays off because he gets exhausted Europe,
- 11:24Speaker 4: shit's Creek Cults. I don't know what to tell you.
- 11:26Speaker 4: You're another organization that can't figure it out. Anthony Richardson,
- 11:31Speaker 4: huge talent coming out of Florida, played exactly Prez as
- 11:35Speaker 4: much football as you have in your life, little to none.
- 11:39Speaker 4: He had one year at Florida under center, and then
- 11:43Speaker 4: you threw him to the Wolves last year expecting him
- 11:46Speaker 4: to be I don't know what the hell they thought.
- 11:48Speaker 4: They didn't have a choice, but they threw him to
- 11:50Speaker 4: the Wolves, and now the kid can't He doesn't know
- 11:53Speaker 4: who he's throwing to. Yes, he's got the best, he's
- 11:57Speaker 4: maybe one of the best athletes on the field up
- 12:00Speaker 4: his shoulders.
- 12:01Speaker 5: He's not there. He's not ready.
- 12:03Speaker 4: And Danny Dimes we all know, is not going to
- 12:05Speaker 4: bring you to the Promised Land, very winnable division. The
- 12:09Speaker 4: problem is they're going to have to do it with
- 12:11Speaker 4: everything else other than quarterback play because they're.
- 12:15Speaker 5: Not going to have it. I am not very high on.
- 12:18Speaker 4: The Indianapolis Colts this year. I think once again it's
- 12:22Speaker 4: Houston and eight improved Carolina team as well that are
- 12:26Speaker 4: also going to be up much better than people think.
- 12:30Speaker 5: But not with Indy this year.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Yeah, and Art, we spoke about Tennessee and you feel
- 12:36Speaker 1: like they're going to be an improved team. I mean
- 12:39Speaker 1: this Indye team. I'm with Joe on this. I think
- 12:43Speaker 1: this team is going to be very bad. Under seven
- 12:47Speaker 1: and a half wins minus one ten that seems like
- 12:51Speaker 1: a good bet to me.
- 12:51Speaker 2: Art, Are you with us? Yeah?
- 12:54Speaker 3: I mean, listen, you know, I'm pro Tennessee and as
- 12:57Speaker 3: a lifelong Giant fan who saw plenty of Danny dimes,
- 13:00Speaker 3: he's probably their best option.
- 13:02Speaker 2: Yeah, he will.
- 13:03Speaker 3: He's He's probably better than Richardson. I mean, he's won
- 13:06Speaker 3: a playoff game. That's not saying much. Richardson's a disaster.
- 13:10Speaker 3: And I think the improvement of Tennessee and just that
- 13:12Speaker 3: the Colts can't figure out their quarterback position. Of course
- 13:15Speaker 3: on pro that.
- 13:16Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hilarious. Sitting up in Toronto, we're hearing all this.
- 13:20Speaker 1: You know, it's time for Anthony to come to the CFL.
- 13:24Speaker 2: Anthony cannot make the CFL. Just want to get that
- 13:28Speaker 2: out there. He is not.
- 13:29Speaker 1: I know, Americans think the Canadian Football League has got
- 13:33Speaker 1: a bunch of scrubs. He cannot make starting quarterback in
- 13:38Speaker 1: the NFL. His past completion percentage is simply too low. Joe,
- 13:45Speaker 1: how many more fades you got for us?
- 13:47Speaker 5: Well, I'll stick to those two fades.
- 13:50Speaker 4: But I will talk about a team that I think
- 13:52Speaker 4: is going to go up and over there win total
- 13:55Speaker 4: and I do see improvement. I mentioned it's the Carolina Panthers.
- 13:59Speaker 4: Here watched in real time it click for Bryce Young.
- 14:04Speaker 4: We saw it a couple of years ago with Jordan
- 14:06Speaker 4: Love and Green Bay. We saw it just click right.
- 14:10Speaker 4: It was a tail of two halfs for Bryce Young.
- 14:13Speaker 5: Last year.
- 14:13Speaker 4: You bring in Canalis to be the guy to save him,
- 14:16Speaker 4: to see if he can actually be a franchise quarterback.
- 14:19Speaker 4: He gets benched after the first couple of weeks for
- 14:22Speaker 4: Andy Dalton. Then he's got to be brought back in
- 14:25Speaker 4: because Dalton is a train wreck and gets run over
- 14:28Speaker 4: and gets hurt. But something happened those last seven games
- 14:33Speaker 4: eight games of the season with Carolina and Bryce Hung.
- 14:36Speaker 4: Its like the game slowed down for him. I think
- 14:40Speaker 4: he's going to take that next step. We've seen Jordan
- 14:43Speaker 4: Love do it. I think Bryce Young is next. Their
- 14:45Speaker 4: whole problem last year was defense because they didn't have
- 14:48Speaker 4: any lot of draft capital lot in the offseason year
- 14:52Speaker 4: they've addressed it. I think that's a very winnable division
- 14:56Speaker 4: and I would not shock me at all that Carolina
- 14:59Speaker 4: has got more than what.
- 15:00Speaker 5: The six and a half wins they're on the books
- 15:02Speaker 5: for here.
- 15:02Speaker 1: President, Yeah, six and a half to the over minus
- 15:06Speaker 1: one thirty. I'm gonna stay away from that bet. I
- 15:10Speaker 1: think it's right around the right number. But I do
- 15:13Speaker 1: agree conceptually that we are going to see an improved
- 15:16Speaker 1: Carolina team. And again we're talking about a team in
- 15:20Speaker 1: a weak division. I think we're gonna see a regression
- 15:23Speaker 1: from Tampa Bay. I can't figure out Atlanta, and I
- 15:27Speaker 1: think New Orleans might end up being the worst team
- 15:29Speaker 1: in football. So I don't disagree with you, Joe. I
- 15:33Speaker 1: don't think I'm capable of getting to the window art.
- 15:38Speaker 3: I'm with you present. I don't know if i'd go
- 15:39Speaker 3: on better, but they feel like Tennessee a little bit.
- 15:41Speaker 3: The quarterback. Obviously it's a different situation, but I love
- 15:45Speaker 3: that the coach kind of went back to him and
- 15:47Speaker 3: kind of stayed with him in that mode, like, Hey,
- 15:49Speaker 3: we're gonna figure this out. You're our guy. They went
- 15:52Speaker 3: and got that big receiver from Arizona in the draft,
- 15:54Speaker 3: who looked, you know, early on in mock drafts, was
- 15:56Speaker 3: like a top two to three pick. They get him
- 15:58Speaker 3: at what eight or nine, so so that will help
- 16:00Speaker 3: his development as well. The division's really not that hard.
- 16:04Speaker 3: I don't know if I could get there saying hey,
- 16:05Speaker 3: I'm gonna go bet seven or more wins because it's
- 16:08Speaker 3: a six and a half. But Carolina should be improved
- 16:11Speaker 3: if Bryce Shung continues on this track.
- 16:14Speaker 1: Art the Caesar from the Westgate, Joe Ranii you can
- 16:17Speaker 1: hear him on the Sports Grid Network and of course
- 16:20Speaker 1: me Lawrence Presman from a wager talk dot com. You
- 16:25Speaker 1: can see the show Monday to Friday, starting on September first,
- 16:30Speaker 1: we'll be doing this daily, and this show guys on
- 16:34Speaker 1: a daily basis.
- 16:36Speaker 2: It's going to be very quick.
- 16:37Speaker 1: We're not going to delve into massive, big game breakdowns.
- 16:42Speaker 1: This is about fast, tight betting information exactly like what
- 16:46Speaker 1: you're seeing on the show currently.
- 16:49Speaker 2: Guys.
- 16:50Speaker 1: I've got six future bets i'm making as well. My
- 16:53Speaker 1: first one is san Fran to win the division at
- 16:55Speaker 1: plus one point fifty. Art, you started the show with
- 16:59Speaker 1: that bet. This is my favorite future bet on the
- 17:04Speaker 1: board period. This is an actual client play.
- 17:08Speaker 2: Joe.
- 17:08Speaker 1: We spoke about the injuries, and I am with you
- 17:11Speaker 1: and I get it. But I look at this division
- 17:13Speaker 1: and I think to myself, Seattle is gonna be a mess.
- 17:19Speaker 1: I like the under and wins. I think Arizona is
- 17:22Speaker 1: gonna be slightly better, but not good enough. I think
- 17:25Speaker 1: we're gonna see a regression from the La Rams offense,
- 17:29Speaker 1: so I don't think they're going to be as good
- 17:31Speaker 1: a team as they were last year. And I think
- 17:33Speaker 1: with Debo going away, I think we have a San
- 17:36Speaker 1: fran team that recognizes the window is about to close.
- 17:41Speaker 1: I think we get San Frans best this year. Is
- 17:44Speaker 1: it enough to win the Super Bowl? Who cares? But
- 17:47Speaker 1: it's enough to win the division at plus one point fifty.
- 17:50Speaker 1: I know we've both spoken about that already. So let's
- 17:54Speaker 1: go right into the New York Giants. Art, this is
- 17:57Speaker 1: your team. I like under five and a half wins.
- 18:01Speaker 1: I feel bad for Dabo. I don't understand what that
- 18:05Speaker 1: team is doing. They decided to get rid of Barkley
- 18:08Speaker 1: to keep dimes, then they got rid of Dimes, and
- 18:11Speaker 1: now they have Wilson. Wilson is not relevant anymore. I
- 18:15Speaker 1: can't name a whole bunch of players on that team.
- 18:18Speaker 1: And I live, eat and sleep this sport. And I
- 18:23Speaker 1: think their division is better than most think they got
- 18:26Speaker 1: Philly and Washington plus Dallas will talk about in a bit.
- 18:29Speaker 1: I like under five and a half wins on the Giants.
- 18:32Speaker 3: Art de Cazar, listen, I am a lifelong fan, but
- 18:39Speaker 3: I look at it like this, and yes, they probably
- 18:41Speaker 3: are the worst team in the division. Their defense is
- 18:44Speaker 3: not going to be much improved. Yeah, they're the worst
- 18:46Speaker 3: team in the division. The schedule is brutal, but they
- 18:50Speaker 3: will be much improved on defense. I think the interesting
- 18:53Speaker 3: thing is when Eli was a rookie, they were five
- 18:56Speaker 3: and three, five and four with Kurt Warner, they benched him,
- 18:59Speaker 3: they went to Eli. Do they do the same thing
- 19:02Speaker 3: with Jackson Dart if they have three wins, if they're
- 19:04Speaker 3: three and five, what's the move with Jackson Dart. I
- 19:07Speaker 3: know Russell Wilson's there, I know Jamis is there. I
- 19:10Speaker 3: think you'll see an improved team because the defense, and
- 19:13Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be opportunities to bet them at
- 19:15Speaker 3: big spreads because their defense will keep them in games.
- 19:18Speaker 2: Press.
- 19:18Speaker 3: I can't argue with going under their win total, but
- 19:22Speaker 3: they're not gonna win two.
- 19:22Speaker 5: Or three games.
- 19:23Speaker 3: They'll be right at that number five or six wins.
- 19:26Speaker 5: Joe, I think you guys are nuts.
- 19:28Speaker 4: I think you are way underestimating what the capability of
- 19:33Speaker 4: this team is. Just watch what you've gotten so far
- 19:36Speaker 4: with Jackson Dart. We're talking about this is a kid
- 19:40Speaker 4: that gets it. This game has slowed down already for
- 19:43Speaker 4: Jackson Dart in the preseason, so much to the point
- 19:47Speaker 4: where Russell Wilson.
- 19:48Speaker 5: Can't mail it in.
- 19:50Speaker 4: Now. If you guys have been watching, Russell Wilson is
- 19:53Speaker 4: being pushed by Jackson Dart. The coaching staff knows it.
- 19:57Speaker 4: And just watch the players around Jackson Dart when he
- 20:01Speaker 4: is on the field. Watch how they react to everything
- 20:04Speaker 4: that this kid does. He's a leader. He is absolutely
- 20:07Speaker 4: the future of the New York Giants organization, and that
- 20:11Speaker 4: defense is legit. I think Dallas is the worst team.
- 20:15Speaker 4: I am definitely under on Philadelphia's win total. I think
- 20:18Speaker 4: we're expecting way too much from them. Again, I think
- 20:21Speaker 4: the Giants with Malik Neighbors, who somehow or another caught
- 20:26Speaker 4: one one hundred and nine balls last year from Danny Dimes. Yeah, no,
- 20:30Speaker 4: I think the Giants have the capability of upsetting a
- 20:34Speaker 4: lot of teams this year. I'm looking forward to seeing it.
- 20:37Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna be against each other a lot of
- 20:40Speaker 1: Giants games. But you know the great thing is they
- 20:42Speaker 1: could come out Week one roll. I stay up of
- 20:45Speaker 1: Week two they roll, and I just respect that I
- 20:48Speaker 1: was wrong. Steelers, Aaron Rodgers, there they are. There's my
- 20:54Speaker 1: helmet right there for you. Aaron Rodgers behind center. Irrelevant
- 21:00Speaker 1: to me. DK Metcalf, great pickup. Their defense is outstanding.
- 21:07Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin never had a losing season ever until this year.
- 21:12Speaker 2: I like under eight and a half wins. I think we're.
- 21:16Speaker 1: Gonna This Baltimore team is deadly. I think they win
- 21:19Speaker 1: both against Pittsburgh. Cincinnati gets at least one, and I
- 21:23Speaker 1: think Cleveland might even get one. Plus this Pittsburgh team
- 21:28Speaker 1: has a horrible schedule. Eight and a half wins is
- 21:31Speaker 1: too high. I'll go to you first. I like under
- 21:35Speaker 1: the total of six of eight and a half and
- 21:39Speaker 1: nine and a half is minus one fifty, So I
- 21:41Speaker 1: don't even have an issue with that.
- 21:45Speaker 3: You said it. Tomlin never has a losing season, and
- 21:47Speaker 3: I guess it's gonna happen at some point, but it
- 21:49Speaker 3: would make me scared to want to bet their over under.
- 21:51Speaker 3: It feels like they're right right around eight nine ten
- 21:54Speaker 3: wins a year. I get all your points, and they're
- 21:56Speaker 3: all great valid points. It'd be hard for me to
- 21:59Speaker 3: go bet this in total over or under.
- 22:02Speaker 4: Yeah, Joe, the problem with Pittsburgh is they have, by
- 22:07Speaker 4: the skin of their teeth, has he not had a
- 22:09Speaker 4: losing season over the last couple of years. When you're
- 22:13Speaker 4: plus seventeen in the turnover battle in the season, you
- 22:17Speaker 4: probably won a bunch of games you weren't supposed to win.
- 22:21Speaker 4: And I'm sorry who believes Aaron Rodgers is going to
- 22:24Speaker 4: be around by game six?
- 22:26Speaker 5: Like? Who are we kidding here? I think Pittsburgh is in.
- 22:29Speaker 4: Trouble and they better figure out a way to make
- 22:32Speaker 4: sure they're showing up this season with all of their pieces.
- 22:37Speaker 4: They better sign Hayward, and they better sign him quickly
- 22:40Speaker 4: because that defense, without it, you're not winning a whole
- 22:43Speaker 4: lot of games.
- 22:44Speaker 1: Here, President, Yeah, I think we're on the same page
- 22:47Speaker 1: on the Steelers team. I'm curious about Seattle. I personally
- 22:50Speaker 1: bet under eight and a half from them as well,
- 22:54Speaker 1: and I think we're going to see a huge regression
- 22:57Speaker 1: from the Seattle team. I mean, let's start right off
- 22:59Speaker 1: the bat with the quarterback. Whisperer does not move with
- 23:03Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that he used to whisper. He still remains
- 23:07Speaker 1: in Minnesota. So I don't think much of Sam Donald.
- 23:13Speaker 1: I think when the chips were on the line, where
- 23:17Speaker 1: everyone was all in and you needed that river card,
- 23:21Speaker 1: Sam Donald did not deliver, to say the least, horrible
- 23:25Speaker 1: ending to the season and a minus ten games a
- 23:29Speaker 1: ship career. Their wide receiving corps is a bunch of
- 23:33Speaker 1: who's I am shocked that this is eight and a
- 23:39Speaker 1: half minus one forty My second favorite future bet of
- 23:44Speaker 1: the show art.
- 23:46Speaker 3: Yeah, President, might as well go alternate under seven and
- 23:49Speaker 3: a half. Yeah, the plus money, I mean, you know,
- 23:53Speaker 3: I always like I always love that in a wind
- 23:55Speaker 3: to it. If you really like somethinghere, you can go
- 23:57Speaker 3: get plus money with the hare game there. Yeah, there's
- 24:01Speaker 3: nothing wrong with that. I think you hit on all
- 24:03Speaker 3: of it. I mean it's all about Sam Donald. Is
- 24:05Speaker 3: he the guy we saw his whole career or is
- 24:07Speaker 3: the guy we saw in Minnesota. If you believe he's
- 24:09Speaker 3: the guy we saw his whole career, then under eight
- 24:11Speaker 3: and a half is an easy path.
- 24:13Speaker 2: Joe.
- 24:15Speaker 4: I think they made a conscious effort to make sure
- 24:19Speaker 4: that Sam Donald is not responsible for them having a
- 24:23Speaker 4: winning or losing season. The reason they fired the OC
- 24:27Speaker 4: was because he had Gino Smith throwing the ball all
- 24:30Speaker 4: over the place.
- 24:31Speaker 5: By the way, that's the new OC in Alabama. That
- 24:33Speaker 5: should work out well.
- 24:34Speaker 4: But the reason they fired him was because McDonald said,
- 24:37Speaker 4: we need to run the damn football. We need Charbonah,
- 24:41Speaker 4: we need Walker, we need to run the ball. I
- 24:44Speaker 4: think that is what you're gonna get from Seattle ground
- 24:47Speaker 4: and pound, play some defense. I think they'll be in
- 24:50Speaker 4: a lot closer games that Sam Donald doesn't have to
- 24:53Speaker 4: win or lose it for him.
- 24:56Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I don't disagree that they're going to try
- 24:58Speaker 1: to keep the game out of Sam Donald's hands. I
- 25:01Speaker 1: just don't know how they accomplish that. He is ultimately
- 25:05Speaker 1: their quarterback. And no matter how many great defenders you
- 25:09Speaker 1: can put in front of a goalie, the goalie still
- 25:13Speaker 1: the bloody goalie. So Seattle under eight and a half.
- 25:17Speaker 1: I got two division winners for you, real quick, and
- 25:20Speaker 1: the first is.
- 25:21Speaker 2: The Detroit Lions.
- 25:22Speaker 1: Now full disclaimer, I'm a fan of this coach, and
- 25:27Speaker 1: I also respect that they might have the hardest division
- 25:30Speaker 1: in schedule in football. With that said, I'm in love
- 25:36Speaker 1: with this team, and I think we saw that they
- 25:38Speaker 1: get up for these games. They are at their best
- 25:41Speaker 1: right now under Campbell, playing the best teams in the league.
- 25:45Speaker 1: I think Minnesota regresses, I think Chicago is mediocre, and
- 25:50Speaker 1: I'm not as high on green Bay as most are.
- 25:54Speaker 1: Give me a veteran team running out of their window
- 26:01Speaker 1: at plus one sixty, I'll take the Lions to win
- 26:04Speaker 1: the division.
- 26:05Speaker 3: Art yeah, I mean pres Lissen. We talked about how
- 26:09Speaker 3: competitive that division is going to be. Obviously, I like
- 26:11Speaker 3: green Bay to make the playoffs. I think it's see
- 26:13Speaker 3: the Green Bay or Detroit who wins. They were decimated
- 26:16Speaker 3: by those injuries at the end of last year. They've
- 26:18Speaker 3: had some of them already. But to me, you can, honestly,
- 26:23Speaker 3: you can almost go bet Boll teams Detroit a Green
- 26:25Speaker 3: Bay and take and take the money regardless you're gonna
- 26:28Speaker 3: get money. I'm not into Chicago and I'm not into Minnesota,
- 26:31Speaker 3: so I see where you're going. Obviously, probably the best
- 26:34Speaker 3: offense in the LEAGUEO Joe.
- 26:37Speaker 4: Yeah, I keep an eye on the whold Trey Hendrickson
- 26:40Speaker 4: thing with Cincinnati because if they don't sign him, he's
- 26:45Speaker 4: set to make eighteen million dollars this year. Prez, and
- 26:48Speaker 4: there's only a handful of teams that can actually afford
- 26:51Speaker 4: to trade for them and pay them. One of those
- 26:53Speaker 4: teams is the Detroit Lions, who have forty million dollars
- 26:57Speaker 4: in cap room right now. Do not be shocked if
- 27:00Speaker 4: Hutchinson's on one side, Hendrickson's on the other, and Detroit
- 27:04Speaker 4: is rolling representing the NFC into Super Bowl.
- 27:08Speaker 1: Yeah, I think at plus one sixty, it's just too
- 27:11Speaker 1: much value there, guys, I'm gonna blow your minds. But
- 27:15Speaker 1: at plus five fifty, WHOA. I think there's value on Dallas, now,
- 27:21Speaker 1: I get it. Joe, just yell at me, scream at me.
- 27:24Speaker 2: I understand.
- 27:26Speaker 1: But I think we're gonna see a regression from Philadelphia.
- 27:29Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see a regression from Jade and Daniels.
- 27:32Speaker 1: Maybe not Washington as a team, but from Jade and Daniels.
- 27:37Speaker 1: And I think we're gonna see, you know, I think
- 27:39Speaker 1: Callahan's going to breathe some new life into this Dallas team.
- 27:43Speaker 1: I think they still have the best defenseman in that
- 27:45Speaker 1: division in Micah, assuming he plays for them. I think
- 27:50Speaker 1: we have a mad Dak Prescott coming back. I think
- 27:53Speaker 1: if they could find some balance between their run game
- 27:56Speaker 1: and their past game and'll open up ceed Lamb. I
- 27:59Speaker 1: think there's weapons on this Dallas team. Their biggest problem
- 28:02Speaker 1: is their rush defense. I think they obviously have to
- 28:07Speaker 1: improve that. But at plus five point fifty art to Caesar,
- 28:12Speaker 1: I think there's value making that bet.
- 28:16Speaker 3: I understand taking a value play and thinking, hey, maybe
- 28:19Speaker 3: there's a weird team that goes and wins the division
- 28:21Speaker 3: who's picked a finish third or fourth. I can't get
- 28:24Speaker 3: there with Dallas. Their culture is a mess. There's no
- 28:27Speaker 3: way I could bet on them to win a division.
- 28:30Speaker 2: I understand, Joe.
- 28:34Speaker 5: They don't even need a comment, right. I think I'd
- 28:36Speaker 5: set it all together and that's.
- 28:37Speaker 4: Why you go with And by the way, does Parsons
- 28:41Speaker 4: happen to play.
- 28:41Speaker 5: This year or no?
- 28:43Speaker 4: Ene mean, yeah, Jerry's gonna screw that all up as
- 28:46Speaker 4: well there, But good.
- 28:47Speaker 5: Luck to Dallas.
- 28:49Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, though, I look forward to to Jerry.
- 28:54Speaker 2: Not being in charge of that team.
- 28:56Speaker 1: Yes, at some time in the future, Guys, I'm gonna
- 29:00Speaker 1: ask you one question real quick, both of you. I
- 29:03Speaker 1: want you to talk me off of laying minus three
- 29:06Speaker 1: thirty on the Buffalo Bills. I think if this, given
- 29:10Speaker 1: the teams given the circumstance we're in this situation ten times,
- 29:18Speaker 1: I think minus.
- 29:19Speaker 2: Three thirty is very low.
- 29:21Speaker 3: Art Well, I mean you said it. You said, even
- 29:25Speaker 3: if Alan got hurt, you think they'd still win the division.
- 29:28Speaker 5: That's it.
- 29:28Speaker 3: If he gets hurt, you're obviously screwed at that point.
- 29:32Speaker 3: I couldn't lay three thirty on a division. It's just
- 29:35Speaker 3: it's not possible for me.
- 29:38Speaker 1: Is that because it's a division bet?
- 29:40Speaker 2: Or just minus three thirties?
- 29:43Speaker 3: I think it's because it's a division bet. I mean,
- 29:45Speaker 3: if you want to tell me Alan gets hurt and
- 29:47Speaker 3: they still have enough to make the playoffs, okay, but
- 29:50Speaker 3: to win that, I really do see improvement in I
- 29:55Speaker 3: made my case for the Jets, and I think obviously
- 29:57Speaker 3: New England was a little public is going to be
- 30:00Speaker 3: well improved. And obviously you know, if Alan Everard or
- 30:03Speaker 3: get hurt, they're not going to win that.
- 30:06Speaker 5: Joe, I prads, I'm with you.
- 30:09Speaker 4: I think there's a couple of divisions where if it
- 30:12Speaker 4: ain't broke, what are we talking about. I'm betting Baltimore,
- 30:16Speaker 4: I'm betting Buffalo, and as sure as shit as we're
- 30:19Speaker 4: sitting here, guys, Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes are going
- 30:22Speaker 4: to win the AFC West again. I don't think any
- 30:25Speaker 4: of the questions are who wins the divisions. I think
- 30:28Speaker 4: the questions are what happens after that with the wildcard spots.
- 30:31Speaker 4: But I'm with you, pres Buffalo rolls to the AFC
- 30:35Speaker 4: East brown. Their window of opportunity though, is it's shrinking.
- 30:40Speaker 1: Yeah, and I expect James Cook to be back, But
- 30:44Speaker 1: from a division perspective, I don't even think it matters.
- 30:48Speaker 1: That's it for our first ever show, the best betting
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