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Changeover: Jailer 2 (2026) · The Kulturecast

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  Speaker 1: We're in Wayne Media. Hello, everyone, and welcome to The Changeover,
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  Speaker 1: otherwise known as the crossover show between the CultureCast and
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  Speaker 1: the Projection Booth. I am your host, one of your hosts,
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  Speaker 1: Chris Dashew, of the.
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  Speaker 2: CultureCast, not the Projection Booth.
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  Speaker 1: I would never claim to be the host of the
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  Speaker 1: Projection Booth, because the man who's the host of the
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  Speaker 1: Projection Booth is here with me. He's a fan of
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  Speaker 1: Rajnikanth Azamai. I don't know if he stood up and
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  Speaker 1: cheered when his name came up on screen. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to ask him, though. He is the host
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  Speaker 1: of the Projection Booth. Mike White.
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  Speaker 2: Coffee cancelled.
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  Speaker 1: Good God. Hook them. Oh, my Lord. Mike, did you
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  Speaker 1: stand up and cheer? Did you stand up and cheer? No,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't stand up. Did other people stand up and cheer?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I was kind of towards the front of the lower.
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  Speaker 1: No one was loud enough in your theater to like,
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  Speaker 1: there were people when superstar Rajni came on screen. People
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  Speaker 1: were literally cheering and clapping.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, I was cheering and clapping. Yeah, OK. But not
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  Speaker 1: just him. I'm not saying him like when it was the,
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  Speaker 1: you know, literally the lettering at the beginning of the movie.
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  Speaker 2: People were like, oh, yeah. And that little like extra
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  Speaker 2: before the superstar came up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't like the 50th anniversary one that we saw
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  Speaker 2: with Cooley. But yeah, it was pretty cool, too. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, if you don't
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  Speaker 1: know what we're alluding to or whom we're alluding to
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  Speaker 1: on this episode of Changeover, we're talking about a film
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  Speaker 1: that just came out. We didn't go see Street Fighter.
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  Speaker 1: Mike and I were trying to figure out why we
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  Speaker 1: didn't go see Street Fighter this weekend. Instead, we decided
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  Speaker 1: to go and spend what is effectively four fucking Street
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  Speaker 1: Fighter tickets between each of us or eight, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: Because what if we had gone and seen Street Fighter
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  Speaker 1: would have been like eight dollars a person. Instead, we
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  Speaker 1: went and saw a movie that was $ 20 a person.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about a brand new Indian film that might
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  Speaker 1: be impossible to see in your area, but it'll undoubtedly
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  Speaker 1: be on Amazon prime. I would assume here in the
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  Speaker 1: next year, because you can watch the first one on
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  Speaker 1: Amazon prime. And I realized we never talked about the
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  Speaker 1: first one. Did we?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we did for the Bollywood.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So it was on Bollywood cinema. So we'll, we'll
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  Speaker 1: talk about the first one here a little bit. Cause
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  Speaker 1: I think it's almost impossible to not just given what
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  Speaker 1: this movie is and given that it is a sequel. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But on this episode, we are talking about 2026's Nelson
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  Speaker 1: Dilip Kumar's directed Rajnikanth starring Jailer 2. So, yes, if
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  Speaker 1: you are here listening to this podcast, you know why
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  Speaker 1: you're here. You're here because it is a brand new
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  Speaker 1: Rajnikanth film. And if you are a fan of Rajnikanth,
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  Speaker 1: it is a reason to go to the theater. Every
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  Speaker 1: time a new Rajnikanth film comes out, it is worth
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  Speaker 1: going to because he is still, well, they lead with
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  Speaker 1: it at the beginning of the movie. He is still
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  Speaker 1: a superstar, even now, 75 years on, which is just
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  Speaker 1: the craziest thing.
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  Speaker 2: Oof.
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  Speaker 1: But he is reprising his role from the last film,
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  Speaker 1: from a film that came out, I guess you would
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  Speaker 1: say like during the pandemic-ish, 2023, tail end of the pandemic.
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  Speaker 1: Not Cooley, like Mike mentioned, but the original Jailer did
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  Speaker 1: come out in 2023. Rajnikanth reprising his role from that
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  Speaker 1: film as Tiger Muthuval Pandian, a.k.a. the titular Jailer. This
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  Speaker 1: film deals with the fallout from the first film. There
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  Speaker 1: will be spoilers for the first. It's like impossible to
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  Speaker 1: talk about this movie without talking about the first film.
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  Speaker 1: Like even just the plot of this film is is
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  Speaker 1: more or less motivated by the first film. Rajnikanth returns
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  Speaker 1: to handle a blowback and fallout from the events of
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  Speaker 1: the first film, including the death of his son, whom
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  Speaker 1: was at the hands of him, Rajnikanth, and also the
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  Speaker 1: death of Varmin, who I went back and rewatched the
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  Speaker 1: first film for this man. I forgot how good he
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  Speaker 1: was in that first movie. I mean, as good as
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  Speaker 1: Rajnikanth is right. He is, he is like, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to say better, but he makes, again, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's one of those, like, This movie's good, but I
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  Speaker 1: think it's going to probably be the problem with Jailer
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  Speaker 1: 2 in some respects, because if you watch Jailer 1...
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  Speaker 1: there's always going to be something missing in this movie. It's,
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  Speaker 1: it's the actor playing Varmin. That's what's missing, unfortunately. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is a sequel to the first film, a continuation
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  Speaker 1: of the story. And yeah, Rajnikanth returns as the main character.
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  Speaker 1: So Mike, I am so curious, some early thoughts about
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  Speaker 1: the second movie thoughts, maybe on the first movie a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. What was it like going to see this
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  Speaker 1: film where you went and saw it? Because we do
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  Speaker 1: kind of have to go out of our way in
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  Speaker 1: my case to go see it. I don't know. What
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  Speaker 1: about in your case?
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  Speaker 2: Well, with me, I was a little pissed at my
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  Speaker 2: theater because they showed that they were going to show
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  Speaker 2: it last Wednesday and Thursday, but they didn't show that
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  Speaker 2: they were going to show it on Friday, Saturday, and
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  Speaker 2: even today, et cetera, into the next week. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know when the run is going to end, but I
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  Speaker 2: was tricked into thinking it was just running two days.
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  Speaker 2: So that meant that I had to then reschedule with
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  Speaker 2: you for a Wednesday recording. I had something else going
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  Speaker 2: on on Thursday. So it just like Wednesday became the
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  Speaker 2: day to see it. At first, I thought it was
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  Speaker 2: only showing at like one theater kind of closer to
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  Speaker 2: where my mom lives. So it would have been more
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  Speaker 2: like a 40 hour or 40 hour, 40 minute drive
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  Speaker 2: down there. And then as we kept getting closer, I saw, oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's showing at my local theater. It's showing Wednesday, Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: And then By the time I had tickets, I saw, oh,
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  Speaker 2: and it's showing into the weekend. Great. But I wasn't
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  Speaker 2: able to reschedule, and everything worked out very well. Seeing
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  Speaker 2: it first, well, not the first screening. I think it
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  Speaker 2: was the third screening on the first day. One of
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  Speaker 2: the Tamil, no, was it Tamil screening? Because they had
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  Speaker 2: it in so many different languages, and I'm always like, well,
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  Speaker 2: I want to see it in whatever the original language is,
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  Speaker 2: so think i did that and i had a freaking
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  Speaker 2: blast so did everybody else in the theater um i
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  Speaker 2: think it was pretty darn full uh i don't there
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  Speaker 2: was definitely a seat between me and the next person
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  Speaker 2: but there weren't that many empty seats in the house
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  Speaker 2: and people were cheering like crazy i had a great
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  Speaker 2: time uh with all the cheering and just like clapping
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  Speaker 2: and whooping it up and I remember in the first movie,
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  Speaker 2: the first beheading that happens was the moment where I
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  Speaker 2: was just like, oh man, shit just got real. And
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  Speaker 2: I was just hooting and hollering with the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the audience. This one, yeah, there's two beheadings in this one.
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  Speaker 2: So that's great. The sequel rules, right? Everything has to
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  Speaker 2: be bigger and better. So rather than just one beheading,
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  Speaker 2: there has to be two. Though in this version, when
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  Speaker 2: I saw it, the heads were blurred out?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, mine as well.
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  Speaker 2: So strange. And it's also weird watching this without the cancer.
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  Speaker 2: You know, cigarettes will give you cancer or don't drink.
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  Speaker 1: Tobacco is injurious to your health.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes. So it's strange watching that because, yeah, like you,
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  Speaker 2: I rewatched Jailer One before I went into this. And man,
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  Speaker 2: I just love that movie so much. And I love
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  Speaker 2: how it can just vacillate between tones so easily like
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  Speaker 2: you are in a deathly serious moment one moment and
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  Speaker 2: then it is late comedy a few minutes later it's
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  Speaker 2: heavy action a few minutes after that i mean it
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  Speaker 2: goes through so many different things and i'm there for
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  Speaker 2: it i just love that it feels like you are
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  Speaker 2: taken on a real ride when you watch one of
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  Speaker 2: these movies where you going all around these people's lives
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  Speaker 2: and All these characters keep getting introduced, but the first
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  Speaker 2: few times I watched Indian movies, I didn't know that
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  Speaker 2: that was going to be the case. But now I'm
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  Speaker 2: kind of getting more into the rhythm, and especially having
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  Speaker 2: just seen Jailer 1, when I got to Jailer 2,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, yeah, I kind of get where
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  Speaker 2: they're going to go with this, and be prepared for
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  Speaker 2: a couple of sharp left turns.
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  Speaker 1: Would it be fair to say that Nelson Dileep Kumar
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  Speaker 1: is a very Indian Coen brothers? Like it has that
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  Speaker 1: weird tonal, like it can live within these tonal palettes
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  Speaker 1: that are not so angularly drawn that you don't live
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  Speaker 1: inside of a box of a specific tone. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's very hard to do, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like a lot of the Indian films
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  Speaker 2: that I've seen will have multiple tones to it. They're
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  Speaker 2: trying to.
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  Speaker 1: Be all-encompassing is kind of the way I always look
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  Speaker 1: at it. They're kind of making sure... I mean, look,
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  Speaker 1: where I went and saw it, there were families, there
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  Speaker 1: were men and women. They're trying to make sure everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Has something, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Every little kid, especially a little boy, loves watching
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  Speaker 1: people get the shit knocked out of them. Women, and again,
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  Speaker 1: women still find Rajnikanth attractive even now at 75, which, man,
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  Speaker 1: if I look like him when I'm 75, holy cow. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, again, if you're a man of our age,
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  Speaker 1: it's like Rajnikanth is just a cool older guy. Like,
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  Speaker 1: it's just, it has everything, and I think that that
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  Speaker 1: tonal kind of, expectation is there. Like these movies are
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  Speaker 1: not trying to be, I don't know if it's, I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't say Indian films don't have a genre, but they
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  Speaker 1: kind of don't have a genre because this is a musical.
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  Speaker 1: It says it in the credits.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. A musical by Nelson. So, OK.
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  Speaker 1: And right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the music, and that was when I rewatched Jailer,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, wow, yeah, the music really never stops.
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  Speaker 1: No, the music is a constant thread. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I like with Jailer 2 that they took a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the themes from the first movie and kind
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  Speaker 2: of amped them up a little bit more, like the
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  Speaker 2: main Jailer theme. How they've got that section now where
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  Speaker 2: you hear all the people shouting at one point.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it's so good. And here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you this. So my girlfriend has
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  Speaker 1: noise sensitivity. And was your film overly loud?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, incredibly loud.
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  Speaker 1: When it started, the best part of the movie was
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  Speaker 1: how loud it was. I was just like, give me
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  Speaker 1: I know that it's maybe being a little much, but
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  Speaker 1: I was like, this is how you want to watch
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  Speaker 1: this movie is like kind of like just one decibel
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  Speaker 1: too loud. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, that was at first I was like, oh, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to have to go out and complain. That was like, wait, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: Just give it a minute.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like.
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  Speaker 2: We are in the opening movement of this symphony. It'll
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  Speaker 2: calm down in a second. And sure enough, it did.
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  Speaker 2: And by a few minutes in, I was like, all right,
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  Speaker 2: I'm used to the loudness of this and I'm here
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  Speaker 2: for it.
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  Speaker 1: But yours was also loud then. Louder than a normal movie.
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  Speaker 2: Super loud.
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  Speaker 1: Was the trailer for, did you watch, do you have
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  Speaker 1: a trailer for like a horror movie in your lineup
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  Speaker 1: of trailers that was also really loud?
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't even think we had trailers before.
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  Speaker 1: We had American trailers and Indian trailers.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, did we?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's see. We have Maria Menounos doing her thing.
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  Speaker 1: Autumn Schenck.
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  Speaker 2: What else did we have? We had something where I
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  Speaker 2: was like, this is kind of tone deaf for your audience.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't like burgers or something like that. I can't
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  Speaker 2: remember what it was.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God. Can you imagine? But it was, it
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  Speaker 1: was something where I was like, Stan relief now. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Or fucking like British, you know, fucking twilling, you know, twinnings,
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  Speaker 1: you know, tea, you know, Earl gray tea. My God.
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  Speaker 1: Maria Menounos presents. That is not why I said, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they had at my showing some Indian film trailers and
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  Speaker 1: some like traditional Western trailers. So, which I found very
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  Speaker 1: odd because they rolled the like Marcus theater thing. And
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  Speaker 1: it was like, Hey, I'm Greg Mike is here with the,
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  Speaker 1: the stars of the newest hunger game film who totally
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  Speaker 1: don't look awkward sitting with me pretending to care. And
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  Speaker 1: it's like, is anyone here? gonna give a shit like
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  Speaker 1: you said this kind of tone deaf because you know
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  Speaker 1: the people that I saw the movie with were very
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  Speaker 1: like you talked about very excited to see a Rajnikanth
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  Speaker 1: film and they were there paying double possibly triple the
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: fucking price to do so and I'm not kidding when
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  Speaker 1: I say this like I don't understand why they charge
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  Speaker 1: so much I saw what would have been the second
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  Speaker 1: showing they were showing it once a day at 830
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  Speaker 1: at night hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw mine late, but that was only because
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  Speaker 2: it was, you know, like I couldn't make the 730.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't make the six. The six was in Hindi.
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  Speaker 2: So I was like, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: My God, you had more than one showing. That's insane.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, and it's doing that.
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  Speaker 1: One in Tamil, that's it. That's it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm glad that, yeah, we've got such a wide
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  Speaker 2: Indian audience up here that they show it multiple times
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  Speaker 2: a day now, which is good.
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  Speaker 1: And in multiple languages, which is even better. Yeah. That's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was kind of like when they were doing
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  Speaker 2: the Studio Ghibli thing. It was like, okay, well, you
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  Speaker 2: can go see it in dubbed English or see it
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  Speaker 2: in Japanese with subtitles. And I was like, yeah, I'll
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  Speaker 2: just see it in Japanese with subtitles. Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, if this is the first time you're
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  Speaker 1: listening to my show, I'd like to advocate for, and
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  Speaker 1: like Mike already alluded to, don't watch these movies with subtitles.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: or not subtitles, with anything other than subtitles. Like, don't
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  Speaker 1: watch it dubbed because you're not going to enjoy it.
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  Speaker 1: And definitely, I mean, like Mike said, try to watch
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  Speaker 1: it in the original language that it was performed in.
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  Speaker 1: In Indian films, that can be extremely hard in the
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: United States to get your hand on those movies. Not
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  Speaker 1: every film is like a Rajnikanth film that is available
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  Speaker 1: on Amazon Prime Video. And I can also tell you,
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: as someone who worked on and has an Indian... movie
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: podcast that needs to get back up and running again.
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  Speaker 1: Some of these films are impossible to find in English
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  Speaker 1: or with English subtitles, let alone dubs. Like that's the
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: biggest barrier to entry. I feel like with any of
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  Speaker 1: these films is anyone's willingness to watch a film with subtitles,
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  Speaker 1: which means, and I, I realized Mike, I think now
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  Speaker 1: what the issue actually is. It's not that people don't
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: want to watch a movie that they have to read.
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  Speaker 1: It's they don't want to watch a movie. They have
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  Speaker 1: to pay attention to actively. Because you can't just sit
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  Speaker 1: and zone out to a movie with subtitles, like especially
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  Speaker 1: this one, like or any Indian film. Like I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to say they're unintelligible, but a lot of what
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  Speaker 1: is going on is character drama, which is driven by dialogue.
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  Speaker 2: Right, exactly. And like I was saying, you don't know
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  Speaker 2: what's going to happen next. You could be in a
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  Speaker 2: heavy drama scene, and then next thing you know, it's
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: a scene with the driver's name, Yogi Babu, where it's
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  Speaker 2: just like, okay, what is happening here? How is this happening?
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  Speaker 2: If you aren't paying attention, you're kind of fucked.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and that's whenever I think about, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: I I have such a kind of again, this is
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  Speaker 1: as much as anyone has a personal connection to Rajnikant.
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  Speaker 1: I went to India when I was 21 years old
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  Speaker 1: and met some friends there at the New Delhi airport,
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  Speaker 1: which is a real leap of faith to meet your
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  Speaker 1: friends at the New Delhi airport and expect them to
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  Speaker 1: just pick you up as a six foot tall white man.
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  Speaker 1: You stick out. And so I was just like, oh, okay, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'll just, you know, just get me, pick me up.
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  Speaker 1: I won't be able to call you. I won't be
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: able to do anything, but I'll just expect you to
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  Speaker 1: be there. On the flight to India, I watched Robo,
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  Speaker 1: which is, or Enthron, which is the Rajnikanth Bicentennial meets
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  Speaker 1: The Matrix meets The Terminator film, which is... Or Bicentennial Man, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Meets the Terminator, meets the Matrix. Yeah, I would say
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  Speaker 1: with a little bit of... What's the film? iRobot? The
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  Speaker 1: one with Will Smith?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of... Have you seen Enthron? Have you seen
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  Speaker 1: Robo before?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't think I have, which is surprising.
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  Speaker 1: It's... I mean, it is like three and a half
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  Speaker 1: hours long. It is a lot, but it is also...
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  Speaker 1: It's a Rajnikanth sci-fi kind of comedy action romp. where
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: he plays Dr. Frankenstein in Frankenstein's Monster. Right. It's a
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  Speaker 1: Duke Rajnikanth in the role he was meant to play,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: himself and himself.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Those guys who do the Corridor Crew videos on YouTube,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: they have covered a few Indian films. I think they
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: just did another episode a few weeks ago where they
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: were talking about some Indian films, and they did cover
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Enthron on there, which was kind of nice.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: They covered the sequel as well. Yeah, maybe the birds
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: with the bird. Yes, that's the cell phone. That's the sequel.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: That's the sequel is fucking nuts. If you think that
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: first one's crazy, then the second one becomes like a
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: deathly serious film about like cell phone pollution. And it's
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: like they're killing the birds. So the scientist kills himself
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: and then becomes one with the spirit of it's fucking nuts.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Well, there's usually a message in these movies, which is
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: crazy too.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen some. Yeah. All of this to say,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: I love Indian cinema. It's something that I feel like
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: in the last couple of years, I haven't had the
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: opportunity to watch as much as I used to. And again,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: you know, I, the Bollywood cinema club is something I'd
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: spent a lot of time with, like a lot of
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: time with a lot of Indian cinema. Mike and I
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: have recorded, I mean, clearly we recorded a fucking jailer
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: episode at one point. So it's, it's, it's on my computer.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: It just needs to get out there. But it's one
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: of those things where, The issue with Indian cinema actually
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: becomes a different thing, which is they are so long
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: and such a commitment of time that for anyone to
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: have to have to watch them for any reason other
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: than because they want to. Some cases can be kind
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: of a hassle. I mean, I look I love this movie.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: But I am not going to advocate people go to
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: the theaters to see this movie if they can wait
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: for it to come on streaming. Because it's really hard
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: to get a hold of. I had to drive an
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: hour each way and pay three times the ticket price
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: to see this movie. I'm not saying it wasn't worth it.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: If I had been in Omaha anyways, I still would
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: have gone and seen it and I still would have
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: paid the money. But the issue is it is triple
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: the price and it is often probably not immediately at
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: a theater near you. If this is immediately at a
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: theater near you, down the street from your house, if
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: you're lucky enough to live somewhere that has a large
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Indian population, or a demand for this kind of film
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: in theaters, which in Dallas there really is, especially in
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: North Texas, where you have that kind of privilege, totally
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: go check this movie out. Otherwise, it's going to be
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: on Amazon Prime before the end of next year. It'll
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: be on Amazon Prime in the next year, I would assume. Oh,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I would say within a few months. I would say
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Patan was on streaming before the end of the year,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: and that was one of the bigger films that got
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: an Indian.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Release on, on prime. And I know that like, we've
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: already talked about this movie is just in the wake
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: of how much money the first movie made, which the
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: first movie was the second biggest Tamil film at the
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: time after like the, we just talked about 2.0, the
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: sequel to Robo being the first one, Rajnikanth punching that
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: ticket over and over again. He's like that guy. He's
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: like Usain Bolt. He's like, I'm just going to keep
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: running faster. No one else can beat me, but you
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: know who can beat me? Myself. And that has become
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Rajnikanth at this point in terms of like South Indian cinema.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I don't really know other South Indian cinema that gets
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: released in the United States that people are going and
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: selling out the entire theater to see. I think it's Rajnikanth. Genuinely.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I know I was a little mad about Cooley because
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I went to see Cooley at the theater. And then
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: I think within just a few weeks it was on
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Amazon Prime.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: So you're right. Yeah. Yeah.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: To be fair, I don't like Cooley that much, to
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: be fair, though.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I like it still. And I haven't gone back.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: To it, though. Right. Like, I can't not compare it
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: to Jailer is the problem because he's almost playing the
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: same play character in a lot of ways.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Right. No, I mean, I do like the whole thing
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: in there with that great killing machine that they have.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: And I thought about that a little bit. I thought
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: about Cooley while I was watching Jailer 2 when there's
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: that all-woman hit squad. And I was like, wait, was that? Yeah,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I was like, is that Cooley? Or was that the
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Shah Rukh Khan film? I'm not sure. But yeah, these
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: four or five women just show up and start shooting everybody.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, cool. This movie had a lot
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: of those, like just people showing up. And there are
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: a few people where I was like, I, I imagine
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: this person is really, really big in India, but I
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: don't know. So I'm thinking specifically of.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Her. Yes. Have you not seen a movie with him
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: in it before?
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. When he showed up, they were
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: making such a big deal. I know is like the
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: big one to see. They're making such a big deal
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: that I was like, oh, it's going to be one
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: of those two guys from Triple R.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Do you know who it was supposed to be? Do
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: you know who that Hrithik Roshan, do you know who
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: it was supposed to be?
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I read it was supposed to be Shah Rukh Khan.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: You would have shit.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I would have.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I would have just been like, I don't.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: It was amazing when the other Khan showed up in
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Cooley at the end there.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Amir Khan. Right.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Because I was trying to remember. I was like, wait
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: a second. When I was watching this yesterday, I was like,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: wait a second. Is Amir Khan going to show up?
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: But when Hrithik Roshan showed up, I was probably... I mean,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I know I was the only white person in the theater,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: but I was not the only person who was... audibly
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: excited that it was Hrithik Roshan because he's a fucking dreamboat.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: He is. Ranbir Singh is a dreamboat, but Hrithik Roshan
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: is a real dreamboat. It was supposed to be Shah
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Rukh Khan, which, man, I would have died. I would
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: have fucking died.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: I need to see more of the movies that some
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: of these guys like Mohanlal and who's the other guy
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: that is always in there? Jackie Shroff.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Jackie Shroff is in there. Uh, don't watch any Tiger
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Shroff films. Tiger Shroff is, uh, I think Tiger Shroff
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: is Jackie Shroff's nephew. Tiger Shroff made a movie called
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Muna Michael, which is, it's a movie about a dancer
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: who loves the music of Michael Jackson, thus the Michael
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: in the title, but it's also a film about how
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: he's teaching a gangster how to dance for a dance competition.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: So I believe that they can launder money.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: How fucking high concept does that sound? Yeah.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Poor Jackie Shroff was barely in this one. I was
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: really open for more.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: None of the cameos were in this one, unfortunately. Like,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. You know, I liked this movie, but
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: I will say I wish I could have seen Jailer
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: 1 in theaters. Because I didn't see Jailer 1 in theaters,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: did I? I don't think so.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: I think you did.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: You're going to have to go back to your episode.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember, yeah. I don't think I would
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: have seen Jailer 1 in theaters because I, well, I'm
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: trying to remember. I can't genuinely remember. I know I
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: saw Patan in theaters, but I was trying to remember
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: if I saw another Indian film in theaters. It might
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: have been Jailer. I can't remember. That was like the post-COVID,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: pre-divorce years. So it's like a weird... window of time.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I know I saw Patan because Patan came out on
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Indian Republic Day and it was like a big deal
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: at the time. I like this movie, but it is
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: nowhere near as good as the first one, right?
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like this movie as well. I don't know. Yeah,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: it's not as great as the first one, but I
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: still really found a lot of things to enjoy about this.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, they do some very similar things. I mean,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: obviously it picks up from the first movie, which I
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: was very surprised that just like, and I kept wondering
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: like how soon after is this? Because I don't really
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: get a sense because the grandson looks very similar to
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: how he did in the first movie. And I was
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: just curious, like that would be for me, like the,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: you know, the, the rings in the tree, you know,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: if you cut the kid open and you see how
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: many rings he's got and I'm just.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Like, okay, stranger things. Has it been?
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. So I'm like, oh, okay.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: He doesn't look overtly grown up yet.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: He doesn't know. He's still just adorable. Um, but yeah, I, I,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I was surprised that just them saying like, oh, Hey,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: you know, Varma, uh, was killed. We don't know who
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: killed him. We're going to have to figure this out.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh shit.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: With, Rajakhanth or tiger killing his own son, you know,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: via those amazing assassins. That was the other thing I
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: was kind of bummed out about was I never got
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: to see those assassin guys. I love those guys from
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: the first movie.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: So it, it, it toned down a little bit on,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I'd say it would tone down a little bit on
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: the comedy. There were some pretty funny things in there,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: especially the, the boss of the town. That is just
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: such an idiot. The, the guy who runs the fruit
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: stand is, I love all of that stuff. But I
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: kept wondering, though. Sorry, I'm kind of all over the map.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Did so this one picks up with, you know, like, OK,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: we're back at home. Tiger is back doing his thing. Actually,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: he's now working at a grocery store and restocking shelves.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Just like, yeah, it's like very weird where it picks up,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: in my opinion. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: And it's like, OK, well, now we have to deal
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: with the aftermath of this stuff. Now we have to
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: deal with like, OK, what happened to his son? And
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: he's not telling his family that his son was a
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: bad person, really wants to spare them from that, wants
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: to spare his wife and his daughter in law and
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: his grandson of all of this pain.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Which I like that as a reasoning.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: I like that, too.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: That's a very like I think that's a very smart
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: character reasoning. And it's only smart. And again, I think
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: it's smart because they actually address it later in the film. Oh,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: as opposed to just like us, as opposed to us
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: doing the like the heavy lifting. I like and again, like,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't think like I'm I don't know
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: if I am unique in this regard, but I actually
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: appreciate when a film that's this kind of film just
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: and again, I'm saying Indian film more or less. is
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: just overt about what it's getting at. I don't mind that, really.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but with these kinds of films,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I don't mind that.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't mind that either. So he's working
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: at this grocery store, laying low, and then there's a
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: little incident that happens where the water from his tap
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: is not running clear. His wife is like, hey, this
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: is pretty brown. And he goes to a city official
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: and is just like, hey, what's going on with this?
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: And the city official is just like, oh, you think
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: that's bad?
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: That's nothing.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: It should have been coffee brown. And it's just like,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: why is this guy picking on Rajikath? I guess there
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: was an incident before that with one of this guy's
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: men who is just being kind of a prick. And
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: so Rajikath takes care of this guy. And then that
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: leads to the little bureaucrat.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: He doesn't want the stolen water to be used as
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: a weapon. Right. Which then he'll be like, well, then
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I'll be taken in as the peddler of weapons, I
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: think is what it is. Right.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: So Raja Khan takes it into his own hands and
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: fixes this, the water problem. And that just sparks off
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: this whole thing that just elevates and elevates. And it's just,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: it's bizarre how fast it elevates and how it goes
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: in all these different directions. I mean, I love the
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: way that it goes, but at the same time, later on,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: You know, because we do have the return of Yogi Babu,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: who's from the first movie, who played a taxi driver
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: or like, yeah, I think he was a taxi driver
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: in that one.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Or he was a driver. And they even make a
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: reference to that where he's like, oh, I used to
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: be a driver just like Raja Kath, because eventually Raja
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Kath gets kind of Shanghai into being a driver for
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: this petty business. little boss guy who runs this fruit stand.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: And then at one point, Yogi Babu is trying to
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: kill Rastakhan. And he talks to the guy who was
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: fucking around with the water. And then that gets immediately
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: back to Rajnikanth. And I'm sorry, I'm going to keep
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: calling him Rajnikanth instead of Tiger.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll just call him Rajnikanth. I mean, is he
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: not– is Jailer not Digger, essentially? Oh, yeah. I mean,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: it's like the most Rajnikanth thing possible. Every one of
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: these things, it's just Rajnikanth playing himself. like do it
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: absolutely and it's like all of the like the musical
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: like cues are just like he we get it like
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: we get it like and it's well deserved it's 100%
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: 100 well deserved everybody in this theater is here to
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: watch this guy i wouldn't be watching this film otherwise.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: The way that they will hide his appearance before it,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: he shows up or like, you know, they'll do like, Oh,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: you see him through glass or you see him through
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: this other thing. Like here, you see him stocking the shelves.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: So you just see like the hand and him like
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: reflected through the water bottle and all of these things
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: until like, finally you get the big reveal. And that's
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: when the audience goes fucking nuts, you know?
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: And I love that, but intentionally they know, and it's
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: an intentional manipulation, but it totally works.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: And now he's so associated with those. It's like the
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: shark in Jaws.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: He's so associated with those glasses that it's like now
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: even with the glasses. And I loved how the glasses
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: became his command thing in the first movie where he
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: would just.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Take his glasses. And the cigar flip as well.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, the cigar flip. Oh, the cigar flip. And then
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: that one guy throwing him the lighter. Oh, so sweet.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: It is like really trafficking in Rajnikanth as an icon.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: And- again, like they, they, it's almost like they just
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: build the plot around that. Cause again, like it is
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: so very similar to Cooley, but again, in Cooley, I
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: would say Cooley is like Jawan is to Patan where
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: in Jawan, SRK is playing kind of like a more
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: villainy character than Patan is. Cause in jailer, he's not
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: like a bad guy. I would say he's like a
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: morally righteous character. Cooley, he's kind of a shithead, right?
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Like if I remember correctly, he's like the villain, he's
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: like morally a bankrupt character, but that's not like, but
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: you're there for it, right? Like that's the intention. this
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: one it's like he's like a family man with this
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: somewhat like jaded past i don't even like i don't
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: know it feels like a lot of the subtlety of
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: the character has been stripped away in the second.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Movie right a little bit yeah not a.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Bad way it's just like he's just he's like now
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: he's like a grandpa just killing everybody like don't mess
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: with my family absolutely like the dog to john wick
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: you know don't mess with my dog john wick don't
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: mess with my family.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Jailer absolutely absolutely So I wanted to know when Yogi
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Babu contacts the guy who is trying to make the
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: water bad. And the guy that... Rajnikanth bashed this guy
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: on the head. And I love that whole thing. Like,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: you see that color? You're going to see a whole
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: lot more of that color. Talking about his blood. You're
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: going to see a whole lot more of that color
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: if you don't fix my fucking water, basically. But when
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Yogi Babu calls him... Or like... talks with him and
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: he comes back and he holds up his three fingers
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: and Rajakath is like, oh yeah, I'm going to pick
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: this middle one and that means this or whatever. And
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: he knows what Yogi Babu was up to and he goes,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, that guy was my man. When was he
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: my man? When did that little bureaucrat from the city,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: was he always set up? That doesn't seem... like it
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: would make sense. Like, did he become his man later on?
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay. I, it's one of those things
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: where like, and again, like I felt this when I've
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: watched Indian cinema from time to time. Sometimes I feel
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: like I have to watch one of these movies twice,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: if not also have to have like a Wikipedia to
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: like go back to, because I feel like they're so dense, right?
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: They are.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: And also because, and this is again, something that's, I
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: think it's something that we probably don't appreciate as, and
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying we, but I think like a lot
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: of people just in our country, a lot of these
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: people's names are like a very common or uncommon name.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: But to us, it's like they're, they all are very tonally,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: like not totally sound the same, but again, it's like,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: it is hard to keep a lot of them straight
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: because there's so many different ones. But again, someone who
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: grew up in India or is Indian or speaks Tamil
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: or Telugu, those names don't stick out, but I've got
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: to assume also that's a problem. Like if you think
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: about American cinema, how many characters there are that are
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: like Michael or James or Jack. And it's just like,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, they all sound the fucking same. So
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: let's say I've got to assume that there's some of that.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: We just don't pick up on in terms of being
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: English speakers, that it's the same thing in these films.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: And it's hard to keep it straight. Sometimes it really is.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: You have to, I remember when we did those a
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: better tomorrow films, like I fucking sometimes I'm like, who
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: the fuck are these people now? Like where the fuck
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: do these people come from? And in a lot of
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Indian cinema, I struggle with that from time to time.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like, now who the fuck are these people? And
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: sometimes in these films, you have a character being played
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: by the same actor, and it's a different character. There's
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: none of that in Jailer 2, but in Jailer 1,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: he plays himself, and then he plays the younger version
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: of himself as well. Right, right.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you just get that real quick glimpse here.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: And I was so happy with that moment when because
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: I just watched the first jailer again and I was like,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Oh shit, that's the guy from the prison who was
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: talking about how he's going to take out jailers family.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: And they, you know, had his guys at the little
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: checkpoint and the one guy comes along and he's selling
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: like coconuts or whatever. And one of them is actually
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: a bomb and takes out their van and all this.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: And he's just like, yeah, you try to mess with
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: my family. I'll cut you up into so many pieces.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: That'll take three weeks for them to even put you
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: back together. It's like, Oh, OK. So when he shows
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: up in this one and just he's like so tough
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: talking like, oh, don't worry, I'll take care of all
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: this stuff. And then as soon as he sees who
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: it is, he's like, wait, this guy was a jailer. wait,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: what prison was he at?
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, oh God.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: And then it's like the doors open. It's like, it's like,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: here he comes, man. And just those little quick flashbacks
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: to young Raja, even like that morph from old Raja
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Khan to young Raja Khan. So fun.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: It, I mean, again, it's so, I'm so glad that
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: the film is willing to kind of, again, play with
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: the audience's expectations of rajnikanth but also gives the audience
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: i feel like what they want which i don't know
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: it's not that hard right with with with rajnikanth like
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: it's very easy he is so charismatic he is so
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: just enthralling in everything he does i don't know there's
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: just like this It always reminds me of, oh God,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: what's the doctor of Doctor Who with the scarf? With
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: the colorful scarf? With a wink and a nod and
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: a touch of the nose. Rajnikanth is just always like,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: he's always one step ahead of you. Always. That's always
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: the character that he plays. I think of the first
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Jailer where he's sitting across from Varmin and Varmin has
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: the machete and he's threatening him with it. And he's
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: just sitting there. He's just like, can't get me to break.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: It's like, I Rajni Kant is always like a cool
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: customer and he's always, you know, I just, I was,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I was showing my girlfriend, uh, Muthu and that's that
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: fucking musical number to open that movie, man. It's just,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: you don't need the context. You don't need to know
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: what the songs lyrics are. You don't need to know anything,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: but the infectious nature of Rajni Kant is, uh, apparent
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: even in that even in that that musical number with
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: no context of what the hell is being said.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: At all absolutely yeah absolutely yeah this one i mean
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: like you said he's always so prepared you know he
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: ends up working for this guy that runs the fruit
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: stand as a driver And then, you know, eventually, like,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: almost literally runs into Yogi Babu. And Yogi is, you know,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: he's got the guitar case. But then suddenly Rajakhan is like, oh, yeah,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: he's carrying stolen statues in that case. And, like, starts
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: to feed into this little petty boss's whole thing where
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: he's like, oh, well, you know, we could. we could
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: just eliminate these lower level guys and just go straight
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: up to the top. And, you know, we can make
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: some money off of this. And basically like is making
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: this guy thinks that it's his idea. And that leads
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: us back into this whole world of, of Varmin. And
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: it's just the guy who plays that boss, the one that, that, uh,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Roger kind of eventually goes to, but like, I love
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: how they just keep... The one guy is just like,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: what's a driver doing here? Go out by your car.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of here.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: What are you doing? I love that guy.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: He's so good. And... Oh, yeah.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: When.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: the first meeting that they have when they try to
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: meet this guy that they have on the bridge and
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: it's like the two mid-level managers that are there and
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: they're just like, yo, who the fuck is this guy?
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: This fruit stand guy, what are you doing? And he's like, oh,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: you want to be careful talking about that. There's going
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: to be problems here. And when all those other cars
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: show up and they're just like, they all go after
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: them at the same time and you just start seeing
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: all these guys being taken out by snipers. I'm just like,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: like you said, like he could have a fucking machete
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: to his neck and he's just so cool. He's, he's
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: as cool as a cucumber in a bowl of hot sauce,
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: you know, and just all of these bullets going everywhere.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: And he's just like, yep. Okay. Like no, one's going
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: to make it as far as me on this bridge,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: unless they stop.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: And is that not how you do this kind of
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: movie with an actor who really can't like do physical
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: stuff anymore? You know, I mean, absolutely. And, you know,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: it's funny. It's like Harrison Ford is only. what, like what?
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Five years older than Rajnikanth. Like Harrison Ford is what? 81, 82.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: So maybe like six or seven years. They're not asking
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Rajnikanth to do that level of stuff, but they're also
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: just tailoring the film around it and knowing that you
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: don't expect him to do that. I love that this
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: is how you do this kind of movie with an
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: aged superstar. I like that this is how you do
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: it right, where it's like you said, you don't have
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: him beating people up. I mean, there's a little bit
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: of that, but for the most part, it's like he's just...
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: smarter than everybody else. He just knows how to be
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: more resourceful. And, you know, he knows how to, you know,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: put to better use his toolkit that anyone else does.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: And he's always better prepared. And I like that about the,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I like that about these movies and this character that
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: he's playing, because it's so, I don't know, you could,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: you could really take a page out of this kind
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: of movie in terms of like, yeah, Rajnikanth is 75
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: years old, but doesn't feel like it. It's not leaning
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: on it so much as like what we've seen before
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: in our own cinema where we have an aged superstar.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: And we're like, well, what is he supposed to be
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: doing physically in this movie? It's like, well, very little.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: And so we kind of can't do anything, I guess.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: But it's like, or you can, you just can't expect
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: that much of it. You can't expect it to be
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: believable either. Like no one would expect Roger got to
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: be doing any of the stuff he was doing in
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Muthu in this movie. And I'm just talking about like
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: jumping and doing fucking flips in and out of a
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: carriage with a horse like that alone. You know, I mean,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: it wasn't believably doing it then either. But now, I mean,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: no way.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I noticed that when it's dance numbers, he
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: just does kind of the arms up kind of thing
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: or like a lot of sitting in chairs. I'm absolutely
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: fine with that. I mean, I remember how awkward it
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: was when we were going through all the James Bond films.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: And you started to get that older Roger Moore, who
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: also not nearly as old, but also being asked to
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: do way more. How old was Roger.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Moore at the time of those movies? Like 51? 50, yeah. Fuck,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: and it's like, he's too old to play. Fucking Harrison Ford,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: 75 years old. He's too old. Like, maybe. Like, I
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know how I feel about that
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: because it's that ageism question of like, well, when women
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: are too old to work in Hollywood, they're just kind
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: of forgotten. It's like, Well, when men are too old
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: to work in Hollywood, they're now just digitally de-aged, I guess, instead.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: It's just, it's very odd. It is an odd predicament
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: because yeah, like Rajni Kanth, I think is a weird
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: example of how you do it right. in Indian cinema.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: But I also would like, you know, the next thing
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: that Rajnikanth is going to be in is a Kamal
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Hassan film. Kamal Hassan, another actor in, in, in, I
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: guess he's not Bali. Well, he's South Indian as well.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: So he's kind of a contemporary of Rajnikanth and he's
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: an older actor as well, but yet he's still the
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: lead in things. And the movie is just the two
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: of them. I think the film is like K H
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: X R J. Like, yeah.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Just like Godzilla X Kong.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Godzilla X Kong. Holy shit. But I think it speaks
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: to them. And these are both like old men, old
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: guys in their 70s. But yeah, you know what? If
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: that movie's showing somewhere, fuck, I'll fucking show up for
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: some of that.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: You know what it is? It's very much the Liam
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Neeson of things because Liam Neeson is no spring chicken and.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: He's still out there.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, gosh. I don't remember. I'll have to look it up.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: But I mean, he's He's been doing these action films
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: and you see with like, what is that? Like a
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: walk among the tombstones or something. There's one of the
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: movies where he jumps over a fence and.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: It takes like 74.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: What the fuck? Yeah.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: It takes like 17 cuts for him to make it
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: over a fence.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: He's one year younger than Rajni Khan. Yeah. What?
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Well preserved, man.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Like, you know, there's that whole thing where it's like,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: look at Wilford Brimley when he's 50 and then look
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: at Paul Rudd when he's 50 and the huge difference
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: between those two guys. And it's like, we're people just
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: living a lot rougher in the past. Are we moisturizing more?
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Is it because of bottled water? Are we looking younger?
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but I'm so glad
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: that we're not, you know, I'm, I'm 54. I'm not
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: walking around.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: You don't look like you're in your fifties.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so glad for that.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: The water.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: The fluoride folks. It's the fluoride in the water. It's
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: keeping us young, keeping us young, keeping us orange. I
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: don't know what it is either. Yeah. Fucking. If you,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: if you asked me to tell you how old Liam
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Neeson is, I would not say 74 years old. I
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: wouldn't say Rajni Khan. I mean this, they, even in
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: this movie, I wouldn't say Rajni Khan looks 75. they
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: make him. I mean, what's funny is you go look
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: at his picture on Wikipedia. You'd be like, who the
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: fuck is that guy? Cause he Rajni Khan. That's like
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Dolly Parton. It's like, he always looks like, I'm not
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: going to say he looks like jailer too now all
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: the time, but he kind of always does. Now he's
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: got like the perfectly coiffed hair, the glasses, the mustache
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: and the goatee and the beard. It's like, is that,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: it's just like.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, so perfect as far as where the gray is
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: and everything.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I know, that's what I'm saying. He's not, Jailer's just Rajnikant.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: It's not really, we'll call him whatever you want. I'm
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: just going to call him Rajnikant because that's who he's playing.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: It's funny that in the first movie, there's that whole
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: thing of the two guys with their wigs, their hair pieces.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: And it's like this big joke of like, look at
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: these guys, they're balding. And I'm just like- Yeah, maybe
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: look at the main actor, too. He's pretty bald, but
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I like that they are playing with that, even though
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Raja Khan definitely is wearing wigs all the time, but
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, perfect. It looks great on him, and
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: it doesn't look like a wig. It looks really, really good.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: This is not like back in the day when it
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, look at, speaking of another Bond, look
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: at Sean Connery and what different weird wig he's going
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: to wear in this movie, or even look at Now
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: you look at Nick Cage and you're like, okay, he's
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: always going to wear a weird wig, but it doesn't
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: look bad. Even some of the wigs that Bruce Willis
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: would have on. It's like, okay, these look decent. It's
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: like wig technology has caught up to these older actors
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: that want to hide their baldness. I was glad when
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Bruce Willis finally just shaved the head and was fine
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: with being bald. Maybe one of these days Nick Cage
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: will do that, but who knows?
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm trying to think if I've seen a Rajnikanth
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: film where he's bald.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Well, Iridan, he was bald in that one. He just
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: was bald with the sunglasses on. But it could have
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: been one of those bald caps like Shah Rukh Khan
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: wore in his Jailer movie.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, Jawan.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Did you see Jawan? I did.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: I saw it at the theater. Okay.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: What a weird movie, right?
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: We might have even done an episode on that one, too, Chris.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: I think we might have that one. Remember, it's not
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: the one where he's like stepping on the gun to
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: reload it. Is that the, is that that one? Is
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: that the one where he steps? Yeah.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: He's got the, uh, that's where he's got the army
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: of girl assassins. Yeah.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: And he's got the, the head wrap where he looks
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: like a hush from Batman.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Good God. There are so many, I mean, it's like,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: it feels like it's from like a different time. Cause
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: it was so long ago.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, even the first jailer feels like it was
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: so long ago compared to where we're at today. So
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: that's why I was so surprised.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Three years ago.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: And what's crazy is by the end of this, they're like, hey,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: by the way. Did you know that we're going to
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: get Jailer 3? Oh, God, yeah.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: They are setting up the sequel so hard.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Jesus Christ. I was like, okay, well,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: there we go. I mean, I guess, you know, I'm
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: not surprised, right, in a lot of ways. I can't
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: say I'm surprised because it's such a successful... Now it's
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: a franchise. Yeah, it's a franchise. I guess, for me,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: it's one of those things where Rajnikanth is... I don't
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: know when he's going to stop working, if he's ever
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: going to stop working. And so I'm not surprised. He'll
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: probably be 80 years old.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: You know, I mean, he's just, he he's it's, he's
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: one of those actors and I don't know. It's at
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: this point, Thalavar, I don't even know how to pronounce it. Thalavar.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: That's what they call him. That's like the title they've
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: given him.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's even in the, uh, the song.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And so, by the way, they're just calling his
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: movies Thalavar 173 or Thalavar 174. It's like, you know
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: what I mean?
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: It's like that's like how they would have the K
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: numbers for the Mozart's music, where the guy came in
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: and had to catalog all of the Mozart songs because
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: he wrote so many.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: That's insanity, right? Mm hmm.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's always so strange when you look at
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: these filmographies, because I was looking up a lot of
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: these guys like, oh, have I seen Muthan Chakraborty before?
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Because he plays ultimately the head of all of the
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: bad guys, the one that is behind all of this
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: art theft that's going on, who is on his own
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: private island and stuff. And I'm like, have I seen
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: this guy? Well, let's see. He's only done, oh, 382
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: movies with seven coming up. It's like, what?
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Like, how am I going to know?
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Like, have I seen some of these people before? You know, like, oh, Vijay. Okay,
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: how many movies has he done? Let's see. Oh, just 99.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: He's a young guy. Okay. With 15 movies coming up.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: according to IMDb. So, okay. And I will believe that
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: he will do all those 15, plus probably another 30
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: within the next couple of years. Because these guys, they
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: crank out these films like mad.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Well, and that was going to say, it I think
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: speaks to the way film is treated in India. Everybody
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: watches movies in India. It's uncommon to not watch movies
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: in India. And I'm saying like everybody, like it's, it
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: is weird that to interact with people in this country
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: that don't watch movies anymore because like we had a
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: movie culture in this country for a while. And I
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: think we're kind of like skewing back towards it a
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: little bit, thankfully, but in India it's, it never went away.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Like it, it, it is, it has stayed, it has
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: been become, it has, it has become culture like in
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: a lot of ways, like it is, part and parcel
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: of the culture. And I love that about Indian cinema
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: because Indian cinema feels really in a lot of ways,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: like the last bastion of a kind of filmmaking that
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: doesn't exist in our country anymore. It's kind of like
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: gone by the wayside, which feels like honest filmmaking. Like
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: it is a little, depending on the film over the
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: top or whatever, but there are honest, you know, Indian
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: films that I've seen, just like there's over the top
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: action movies. I think there's this weird assumption that because
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: it's a foreign film, It's going to be this serious,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: genre-less drama film, and it's not. You can go see
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: effectively a big, dumb action movie like Jailer, or you
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: can watch a more kind of dramatic piece. Yes, Indian
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: cinema tends to have less specific genre lines, even within
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: a horror film. There's still musical numbers, and there's still
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: other things like that. Mm-hmm. I don't know. I think
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: for me, the thing that I love about Indian cinema
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: is that it is still a thing that people love
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: to go do, and that is watch movies. And I
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: think that when an actor is working that much, tell
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: me an actor in Hollywood that's other than working actors
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: that work that much. And these are people that are well-known,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: and they're working this much. There are some actors that
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: only work once or twice a year. go look at
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Yogi Babu's filmography for fuck's sake. Like Jesus, it's massive.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: And he's five years older than me. That's it. He's
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: like in his early forties. Like, and he has a
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: massive like credit list as long, long as your arm. It's,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know. People are acting in Indian cinema. A
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: lot of them, I think because they actually love acting
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: and there's a, market for people to watch movies. And this,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: this movie, I think obviously is a sequel to a
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: movie that was immensely financially successful. And this one is
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: equally financially successful, but I think, you know, Rajni Khan
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: is still a name and will probably always be a
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: name enough for people, everyone to come out and watch.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: And this movie does traffic in that, but not in
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: a bad way. I mean, if, if you know that
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: that's a thing that people are going to do, wouldn't
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: you take advantage of it? I would like, you know,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: $ 20 a fucking ticket sold out showing once a night.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: And it's theater was full like, and that's in Lincoln,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Nebraska or Omaha, Nebraska. You know what I mean? Can't
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: imagine what this film was doing in India. You know,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: those theaters, my God, like fucking, I can't imagine because
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: it's probably an experience that is only a minor version
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: of what we see in our respective cinemas. And that's
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: a thing I would love to see is I would
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: love to see this film in In South India with
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: an opening night crowd. Can you imagine what that would
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: be like? Like when he shows up with no sub,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: oh my God, with no subtitles. Can I get English subtitles, please?
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I meant to, I wanted to ask some of the
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: people that I was sitting around, like, are they reading
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: the English subtitles? I'm assuming they're not, but I don't know.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Because again, you know. just because I view them as
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Indian does not mean they speak Hindi. They might speak
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Telugu or Tamil. So there is that again, like these,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: the film I saw was in Tamil, but like you said,
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: there were Hindi showings. So there are people who want
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: to see it in Hindi.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I just looked, uh, even just tomorrow at
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: the theater that I saw it at, there's three screenings,
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: a one 45, a five 30 and a nine 15.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: The first two are in Tamil and the last one's
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: in Telugu. Amazing.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's amazing. Yeah. We really are living in such
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: like a great time to be able to go see
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: film in theaters. And I'm not, I, again, like that's
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: weird for me to say, because I feel like I
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: didn't go to the movies for a really long time.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: And I'm not sure that the film going experience has
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: changed dramatically since COVID. I actually don't think it's gotten
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: much better. I think in a lot of ways it's
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: stayed about the same. I don't know how it could
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: get any better. I really don't like, The seats are
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: about as comfortable as they're going to get unless you're
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: sitting in a slang super seat. There's no better seat
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: that you can get other than a reclining one that's
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: a leather seat. I don't know what anyone would expect.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go to a movie theater and
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: eat food. I don't want to sit and have a
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: fucking meal at the theater. So that's out in terms
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: of I'm going to see a movie. I want to
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: watch the movie. So I don't know how much better
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: or worse the experience could get. It is always going
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: to be dependent on the people that are in the
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: theater if they're there or not to see that movie.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: And I would prefer to see a movie with an
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: engaged crowd. And I think by going to see an
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Indian film in a limited access market like yours or mine,
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: or most of the places you're going to see Indian
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: cinema in the United States, you have the benefit of
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: seeing it with a group of people that are going
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: to be engaged and excited to see the movie. And
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: I think that that is an experience that is hard
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: to replicate. And that is, I think, what anyone who
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: wants to watch films in this country should want as
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: a filmgoer is like, watching a film with an engaged audience.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: That's not on their phones. Cause I don't think there's
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: any other like thing you can do to change the
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: theater going experience other than hope that they make better
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: movies for us to go see, or just go see this.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: You know, I know that we could have gone and
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: seen street fighter, but I think this movie is probably
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: better than street fighter from what I've heard about street fighter.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Now I haven't seen it, but jailer two is a
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: much more broad in scope film than street fighters probably
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: hoping to be. And getting to see a film with
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: a 75-year-old megastar whose name on the screen elicits a reaction...
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know if people were whooping and hollering when
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: Zangief was beating the shit out of Dhalsim on screen,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: but I know when Rajnikanth pulled out an umbrella and
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: grabbed a guy by his collar, people went completely ballistic.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: So good.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: The umbrella action in this is so awesome. And just
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: the one guy who's just like... just being so pissy
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: with him and stuff. And Rajikath is just, I mean,
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: he's there teaching lessons the whole time, right? And if
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: he can't teach you a lesson with an umbrella, he's
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: going to teach you a lesson with a fucking machine gun.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: That machine gun scene was a little crazy for me,
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: where I was like, oh, this is the guy I'm
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: cheering for is the guy who's got a machine gun
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: just shooting through this guy's back. I don't know how
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: many times. All the blood going out of that pregnant
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: lady at the store. And then goes over to the
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: other guy who's just like, oh yeah, you never had
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: a chance to, your friend never had a chance to
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: hear my name. Here, let me tell it to you
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: and you can give it to him in hell.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: I believe the line is you can give it to
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: him wherever he is right now. And I think you'll
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: be meeting him. Yeah. Good God. He blows him away.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Good God in heaven.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: And again, like it reminds me of those John Woo,
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: like those like elevated kind of like tone films where
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: it's just over the top. You get, you know, it's funny. I,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: I know that we complain about slow-mo with Zack Snyder
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: and Michael Bay, but this is how you do slow-mo, right?
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Oh God.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: Because it's in service of making your superstar look as
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: big as possible. And Rajnikanth is one of the, He's
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: one of the biggest Indian superstars of all time. In
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: his respective market, there is nobody bigger than him. He
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: is the Shah Rukh Khan of Tamil cinema or Telugu cinema,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: probably more aptly. And, you know, it's again for a
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Westerner watching these films, that context is lost on us.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: You can see it with the audience you see it with.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: If you see it with an audience in this country,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: that's all going to be a lot of, you know,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: people who love Indian cinema or Indian people. And they
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: will make you aware as to who the people are
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: that are worth whooping about. Like Mike said, they don't
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: have like a subtitle for this is for Thiek Roshan,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: but yeah, when he shows up, the filmic language presents
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: it in such a way that even if I don't
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: have an audience of people like you had, or I had,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: I think it's still made obvious who's important. I may
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: not understand, but I can look them up after and
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: see who that is. But, That's so lost in this
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: day and age. Like, I'm not saying like everything needs
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: to be completely unsubtle, but I like this kind of filmmaking.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: I like this kind of filmmaking when it's done right.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: And when slow-mo is done right, you can do slow-mo right.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: It can be in service of something other than action.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: It can be in service of making a character look
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: as massive as possible.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. I want to see more stuff with Vidya Balan
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: because I really liked her as one of the villains
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: in this. She's got a real julio louis dreyfus vibe
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: going on for me almost like maybe it's that like
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: streaks of gray kind of reminds me of her character
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: from the mcu but i really liked her and just
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: how just what a horrible person she is. And just
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: that whole like little power play she's doing around coffee
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: and tea. Like, oh, you have to order one of those.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: That's the rules of the house. And then it's like, oh,
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: you haven't finished your coffee yet. You have to drink
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: your coffee before you can go. So that's why when,
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: you know, my line to open this was coffee canceled.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: When he does that to her, I'm just like blocking a,
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: this is so great. I love that whole that whole
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: scene at that party is just so great between the
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: dance number that's going on and then the whole thing
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: with the wheelchair and that pulley system and the trucks
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: with all the artwork. I mean, it just really amps
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: up so much stuff. And again, it's like, other than
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: maybe the four bald assassins, I'm trying to think. I
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: mentioned the one guy who kind of gets short shrift,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: but everybody else is here. I mean, we don't have like,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: of course, like the actor director, like those guys. And
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: I kind of, you know, felt a little bad for
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: not seeing the little guy with the big mustache, that
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: guy from the first movie, but everybody else is here.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: And even having that, I wish I knew the actor's
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: name because I can't seem to find them on the IMDb,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: but the little guy is, And just that scene where
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: they have all of the little people and they all
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: have to stick up their middle fingers to show that
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: they aren't bitten. And then the one guy has the
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: bandage on there. I love him. I love when he
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: shows up and stuff. And he seems to be like
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: kind of a constant presence in these Roshnikov films. At
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: least I think he was in Hooli as well as
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: this one, as well as the, you know, the first jailer.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: And I think I've seen him. Did I see him
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: show up in a Shah Rukh Khan film? Is that possible? I, maybe, maybe.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: I need to find out who this guy is. Cause
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: he just pops up and I'm like, I really like him.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: I think, I think you're right. I'm trying to remember
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: if he was. Yeah. No, I think you're right. I
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: think he was in all three. Yeah. Shah Rukh Khan though.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Not in this movie. No, no. I think Roshan in
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: this movie though.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. What did you think of that scene? It did
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: feel a little, like, tacked on. Not in a bad way.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: It was wild.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: It was wild.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: It was fucking nutsoid.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: The second time I've seen a car crash through a building,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: and I have to say, this was done way better
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: than Disclosure Day.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, God. It wasn't invisible. It wasn't an invisible car.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: I love that they show up, that they crash that
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: car through the building, then he has the minigun just
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: on his head.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, so good.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that Hrithik Roshan was in this movie,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: and I was trying to figure out who it was.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: I really thought it was going to be Amir Khan,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: because I did get that cameo confused. And I was like, oh,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: is that going to be Amir Khan? I was like, oh.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: But if it had been Shah Rukh Khan, I think
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: I would have died.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: But Hrithik Roshan's a close second. I mean, he's... And
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: I like how he's like, you know, I owe it
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: all to you, Babu. And it's like, okay.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: That was great.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, my God. Like, okay, whatever.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: He was laying it on very thick.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: Very thick. Very thick. Which, again, I love. Like, you know,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: they're paying, you know, they're paying, you know, homage where
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: homage is due. They're paying, you know, respect to Rajnikant,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: who is a multi-million bajillion, you know, selling actor. And
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: this film, I think, you know, all he has to
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: do is just fuck around for two hours and people
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: are pretty excited. Like he's, he does, I don't know.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: He just does a really good job. I think it
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: being so charismatic that even someone like Hrithik Roshan, who
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: is as charismatic as Rajnikanth in a lot of ways,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: he can't upstage him in his own movie. He even
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: has to pay like, you know, lip service to the guy,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: you know, pay respect to the man. It's like, yeah,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah. Okay. Like makes sense. he's not in
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: the movie a whole lot, which I think is smart.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't think they have that much money
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: and or time, but I do like how he's in.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: I feel like, again, his cameo gets in the way
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: of like some of the other people. Like there feels
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: like less of those kind of buddies of Rajni Kant
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: than this film versus the last one. This is more
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: of a him versus people on his own, less with
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: all of his kind of, you know, cadre of pals,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: you know, the Jackie Shroff and the others. Right. Yeah.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: I almost wish Jackie Shroff had been driving that car instead.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, again, you know, it would have made more
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: sense if there had been less of those cameo adding
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: more cameos. It would have been, you know, I think
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: just utilizing the ones that are already there. Right. Because again,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: they're so big in their own respective cinemas and getting
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: those actors all together is such a big deal. Like
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: you don't have to keep adding to the pot. Sometimes
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: you don't need to add more to it. Like you
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: already have enough. Just utilize them in more interesting ways. And,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm probably complaining about something that they're going
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: to do in the third one where they'll have, you know,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: Hrithik Roshan and them and Shah Rukh Khan.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that moment when they're threatening his family
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: and they cut to the house and it's the three
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: guys sitting across from the wife and daughter-in-law. And I
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: think they even have– no, they bring– later on is
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: when they bring out the– the tissue box, which was
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: so nice. Like a call back to the first one
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: where he has the tissue box on the table, but
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: where they have those three guys just sitting there. And
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Oh yeah, this is great. And I really
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: wanted more of them. Of course, like the one guy's family,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: he gets threatened and beat up and all this kind
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: of stuff. He gets to come back and he gets
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: his revenge, which was nice. But I was like, Oh yeah,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: I really want more of these dudes. Cause they just are.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: They're so cool. And Jackie Shroff with that huge mustache and,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: and how they showed him at the jail in the
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: first one, playing games with Rajnikanth and stuff. It's like, yeah,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: this is really good. And he sends all of his men,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: and his men get killed. And he's like, you didn't
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: tell me who my men were going to be trying
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: to kill. Yeah, this deal's over, Varma. We're done with
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: this stuff. And immediately turns all of his allegiances back
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: to Jailer himself.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Shiva Rajkumar is, I think, of the three, he's
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: the one who's given the most.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, he is. You know, absolutely. Which isn't a lot either.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's very little comparatively to the last film.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: So if you want to keep your friends doing things
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: at a high, high level Rajnikanth, maybe include them in
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: your film a little bit more because they're kind of
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know, they're not in it as much. They
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: were like a big part of the last film. This
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: feels more like a cameo in this film than it
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: did in the last one.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. Yeah, Jackie Shroff for sure was very cameo.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: And then even the guy who ends up driving that
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: car and.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Crashes the plane.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: What did you think of the villain in this movie?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: Which one?
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Right, exactly.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: Are you talking about the SJ Surya, the Bodhi, like
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: the main one? I mean, he's a proper bastard.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: He's good, yeah.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a proper bastard. I mean, what's funny is
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: he's like Varmin in a different way. Like Varmin, just
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: like Bodhi, I guess, he's like the most villainous character
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: in the movie. He just kind of does whatever with impunity.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: And I like that about, like, not all the villains
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: in these films are given that. They're not given the
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: power to just do whatever they want. And he is
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: like at that level in the film where he can.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: I like that. He's not really a physical threat, which
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: also I think helps. And that man, that fucking scene
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: at the end where Jailer just beats the shit out
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: of him.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: It's just, I don't know. In a lot of these
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: movies that I've seen, the villains really are deserving of
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: the fate that they are given. They earn the fate
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: that they are given. And I would say his character
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: earns the fate of having Rajnikanth kill him and then
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: have him blown up even, which is just, yeah.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: Fucking goodbye oh yeah as the four of them walk
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: away in slow-mo from that explosion and you already have
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: the one walk away from an explosion slow-mo when he
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: has all the guys that he tricks them all into
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: showing up at the one abandoned building and they're like
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: well where's russia khan's family and then he's outside with
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: that crutch that has the camera in it he's just
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: like hey surprise motherfuckers.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: He's I love I just love Rajnikant as an actor.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: He you can ever read the goddamn phone book. He's
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: just so he is so good at conveying emotion with
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: his face. But he is also a really physical actor, too,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: and believable. And, you know, like you said, I mean, yeah,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: we do have a lot of kind of like cutting
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: around him in a way to make sure that certain
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: things work. physically for him as an actor now but
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: it i i think like his performance is so good
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: and he's so charismatic and endearing that it doesn't matter
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: like i kind of don't care yeah and and that's
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: weird because like that's that's not the case in a
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: lot of american cinema like i'm not willing to go
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: that far in american cinema and with indian cinema i
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: just i feel like the the the level of intent
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: with the filmmaking is still not wholesome, but it's just
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: they're making film because they love making film. And you
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: can tell that Rajni Khan loves making film. he loves
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: making movies. That's like his, like, and you know what?
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: He's really good at it. So let the man do,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: let the man do what he's good at. It's a
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: shame because if you look at his filmography, he used
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: to do like seven movies a year and now it's
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: like one every year or two every year. And it's like, man,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: that's what getting old means when you're this, you know,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: kind of prolific as an actor is like, you're only
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: able to work once a year as opposed to eight
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: times a year. Cause like we mentioned with someone like
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: Yogi Babu, he's, Filmography is longer than most actors in
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: Hollywood ever will be. And he's like, like I said,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: he's like 41. Fucking Rajni Kant is 75 and he's
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: still working. Like, good Lord. Yeah.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: No, it's very admirable. And yeah, I think part of
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: it is can't. And then that probably part of it
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: is won't. He probably can say, I've got fuck you money.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: I don't need to worry about this.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: You're right. Yeah. Well, and you know, when people are
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: getting up and cheering because you show up on screen,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: I can't, I don't know. You probably, At some point,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: you're like, I love that. That's part of it. The
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: adoration is probably a lot, a huge part of it.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: We always talk about Amitabh. going out and waving to
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: his fans every Sunday. And the only reason he stopped
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: doing that was because of the pandemic. It's like, what?
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: That's wild. That is like, there's no one. I mean,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying there's no one like that in the
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: United States actor wise that would get people like that,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: but there isn't, there is not one singular actor where
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: thousands of people will, will just wait outside of his
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: house to see him. Like that's, that's insanity. And that's,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: you know, I, I think that speaks to the level of,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: ingrained within the culture movies are in India. Because this
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: movie is, I mean, again, this movie is really just
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: existing on the back of Rajnikanth. And if you want
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: a Rajnikanth movie, it checks all the boxes. He kills people.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: Like Mike said, he decapitates several people. He fights people.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: He has famous friends show up to come and help
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: him of multiple variety. It sets up a sequel at
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: the end that I think is rather interesting sounding. I
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: did not expect the film to have him turning himself in.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: That was strange. The guy who is driving that vehicle.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: I was like, is he working for tiger or is
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: he not? I guess he's not. Cause he's just like,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: you better answer the phone. And then that ends up being,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: you know, the surviving family member, the woman. And I'm
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: just like, ah, cause yeah, we didn't see her die.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: That makes sense. And now, you know, she's going to
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: be trying to get her revenge and, Yeah, now the
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: jailer goes to jail. So we'll see how that goes.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: And that's Vijay Sethupathy at the end, which again, another
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: massive actor.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, I wondered.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, at the end in the car. Yep, that's again.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: When you get somebody that turns around in the car
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: like that, it's almost always like, oh, it's that person.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: But yeah.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: We want to talk to you, Rajnikanth, about the Avengers initiative. Right, exactly.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what that is at the end of
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: this movie. I mean, it's what's funny is you've seen Patan, right?
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, the one with Shah Rukh Khan, where he's
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: flying around with the jetpack and he's the. Like James Bond.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: It's like Indian James Bond with Shah Rukh Khan. It's a,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: it's a fucking amazing. Um, at the end of that movie,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: it has one of those, like at the end of
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: some of these, like there is a whole spy film
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: connected universe in these Indian, like Bollywood films, like the big,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: you know, their MCU equivalent is literally more or less. And, um,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: they have like post credit scenes in their movies, just
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: like MCU films.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's like, you know, Oh, we're sending you
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: on this mission to go find this person. And it's like,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, it's, you know, this actor, that actor
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: has never worked with someone else or, you know, whatever.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: And it's, this movie just foregoes that just has it
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: at the end of the movie. Cause yeah. When it,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: cause like you said, when he turns around, it's like, Oh,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: the people behind me were like losing it in the theater.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: I was like, Oh shit. Okay. Like I, I did
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: not know who Vijay Sethupathi was. Again, I, you know,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not as up on all of the actors from every,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: every line of Indian cinema completely. But yeah, the people
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: in the theater knew who he was. That's for sure.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: Jailer 3 coming three years from now.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: Three years.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: Rajnikanth will be 80 almost. 78. 79 almost. Jesus Christ.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Good for him.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, this guy deserves all the praise.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: I know. Would these movies play for an American audience?
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: That's a good question. I mean, I didn't think Triple
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: R would play for an American audience, but it sure
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: seemed to. I mean, that was kind of a real breakthrough.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: I was hoping that there would be a fast follow-up
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: with something that came afterwards where it was just like, oh,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: you like Triple R? Okay, well, let's give you this next.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: And it feels like somebody just kind of missed the
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: boat when it came to that.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Which is weird because RRR was like, I mean,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: I knew people that had never seen an Indian film
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: that were singing the praises of RRR.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: Right, same here.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: I honestly felt like Pataan was one of those movies
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: that like it could have bridged the gap. Like it's
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: literally just a James Bond, Mission Impossible style film with
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: Shah Rukh Khan. And Shah Rukh Khan is such an ageless,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: timeless creature that he looks like he's like 30 in
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: that movie, but he's actually like 60. And so it again,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: like it has that weird kind of feeling of just
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: like timelessness. And I don't know, like Triple R kind
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: of had that feeling of like timelessness to it, like
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: kind of a I don't know, like I thought it
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: was going to be the thing. And like nobody talked
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: about it. Weirdly, Triple R did not move the needle
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: in retrospect as much as I thought it would. Or
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: clearly you either. Like I liked Triple R, but. there
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: are better Indian movies out there. I feel like it's
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: one of those, like, you know, it's like anything else.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: If you watch a lot of them, triple R is
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: really not that exciting because there are better ones. But
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: if you've never seen an Indian film before, triple R
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: probably melted your fucking brain. You know, jailer is a
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: pretty crazy movie. Jailer two is a pretty great, even
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: by American action film standards, jailer one and jailer two
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: are pretty nuts. You know, the villain in the first one,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: the kind of the weird villains in the second one,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: the decapitations, the violence, the humor. Like it's there's not
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: really a comparative to say Coen Brothers might kind of
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: be reductive to these movies, not the Coen Brothers. Like
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: there are not really comparatives to this kind of film
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: in American cinema. Same with Patan like that. I mean,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: Jawan in a lot of ways similarly, like remember how
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: confusing Jawan was where he's like playing Does he play
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: his dad in that movie?
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: He does, yeah.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. Remember when Shah Rukh Khan plays a little person?
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: I don't think I've seen that one yet. I did
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: see the one where he plays his own, you know,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: praised fan.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: No, that movie rocked. We saw that one. Yeah, we
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: watched that one together. That movie's wild.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, what was the little person? Was that Zero? Yeah.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: Which is, I mean, it's way more endearing than you
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: would think. And that's, again, because of who Shah Rukh
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: Khan is. And that's the thing. Like, I do think that,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: you know, and I will say, you know, Harrison Ford
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: gets a lot more mileage, pardon the pun, than most
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: actors would doing the Indiana Jones thing at his age.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: And I think Shah Rukh Khan has also done the
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: same thing. He's built up a lot of goodwill.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: You know, Shah Rukh Khan, I think, you know, Shah
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: Rukh Khan, Rajni Khan, they've all built up a lot
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: of goodwill as actors. And so they can, you know,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: Rajni Khan, that's 75, maybe not the most believable action star,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: but I don't think it matters. Like this movie, so
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: much fun, such a fun, again, a fun entry into
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: a series, but again, just like another fun film to
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: see Rajni Khan just doing his thing. And it's, it's
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: fun to see someone who is as talented, and as
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: gifted as an actor, just, I think, organically. Like, Rajnikanth, like,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he wouldn't be good at anything else,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: but he's so good at acting, why would he need
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: to do anything else? It's crazy to me that he
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: was a bus driver.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: Right? Can you imagine that universe where we never got Rajnikanth?
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: That's such a bummer, but I love that he is
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: such a massive star that they will just be like,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: you know what, whatever, do whatever Rajnikanth and people will
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: show up. You want to be a superhero? Fine. You
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: want to be a jailer? Fine. You want to be
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: a villain? Fine. You want to be whatever a robot
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: with another robot fighting another robot? Fine. People show up.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: And I love that because I don't think that's ever
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: going to change. And I don't think that's ever going
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: to change for either one of us. Like, I think
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: that if we can, we should try to see one
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: of these movies a year if possible. If they bring
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: them to our neck of the woods, that's the other
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: kind of thing, you know, it, you know, thankfully we
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: live in a time where you can see that. I
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: don't know how the fuck you would have seen these
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: movies in the nineties. How did people see Indian cinema
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: in the seventies in the United States?
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: Mike, did they, uh, I'm sure there were little theaters
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: around probably in certain cities, but I'm not sure. And
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: then also, yeah, like what would have.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: Made it over here, you know? Because, like, we're lucky
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: that this is one of the films that's made it
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: over here. This is not the only film that's being
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: made like this. Like, there's hundreds of these goddamn movies
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: being made. It just happens to be this is the
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: one that escapes the gravity and makes it far enough over.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it's very similar to the Chinese market and just,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: you know, you would have, yeah, like the small theaters
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: in Chinatown kind of thing, but then, you would have
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: the grocery stores or the different places that would have
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: these VHS tapes. So I'm sure VHS was huge for
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: the Indian market at one point. And now it's streaming services,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: it's Eros, it's Sun, now Amazon is getting in on it.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: Netflix has a lot of Indian films.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: Now, which is nice. You can watch a lot of
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: them free on YouTube.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, that was the big thing, was when I would
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: go past some of my Indian co-workers' desks, they would
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: have YouTube up and just have Indian movies up all
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: day long. And with that, I never had to yell
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: at anybody because they were getting their work done. So
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, you can put on whatever the fuck
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: you want as long as you're getting your work done.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: I don't care. So just do it.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: And isn't that wild that they don't really police it
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: on YouTube? Like, you can see... A lot of the
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: movies we've mentioned are probably on YouTube, including jailers, probably
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: on YouTube. I'm assuming like, yeah, probably not in Tamil,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: but in Hindi or Telugu or something else, there's probably
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: no English. That's probably, there's no English subtitles is probably
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: the problem.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah. I mean, I just, I'm doing some
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: research for a commentary track, and the movie I'm going
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: to be talking about has not one, not two, but
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: three Indian versions of remakes that they did in this film.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: And I was able to find one of them has
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: Shah Rukh Khan in it, and I was able to
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: find that with subtitles.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: What film is that?
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: Crazy Four, with two A's in the middle of it.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: Crazy Four. And then the other two are South Indian films.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: And I was unable to find those with subtitles, but Chris,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: the magic of the magic of brand scripts that are
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: available on YouTube being translated by. Claude or chat GPT
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: and turn into SRT files. It's a thing now.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, did you get it to make it work? Yes.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: I hate all of this. I hate all of this
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: so much more. You know how much I struggled in
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: the past? Oh, you know, because you've done this longer
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: than I have. Folks, if you don't know how hard
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: it is to try to get audio, or I guess
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: SRT and audio files to sync up with one another
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: and with the video to watch a film, a foreign film,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: you have not learned the struggle. Because even up until...
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: Up until what Mike just said, it would have been
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: fucking impossible. Damn near fucking impossible to get that to work.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: But the fact that you can just– oh, Mike, of
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: course you can. And you can probably get it to
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: queue up correctly to everything based on the file you have.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: Of course. I don't even have to ask.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wrote a couple prompts for it and everything.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: I guess this isn't Shah Rukh Khan in this crazy foreign.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: It's two Z's, not two A's. Sorry. Crazy.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: Crazy.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: It's a 2008 Hindi language thriller.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Sorry.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: I thought it was Shah Rukh Khan on the poster,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: but it wasn't. Oh, wait. No. Special appearance by Shah
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: Rukh Khan.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: Special appearance by that. He's in there. Yes.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: Legally obligated appearance by.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: Shah Rukh Khan. Yeah. I now have a couple different.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: the little tools that I just go, okay, sync this
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: up with this. You know, like if it's on YouTube,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: I can say, just go there, sync it, you know,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: pull the transcript, translate the transcript, put it into SRT.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's amazing.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: We are like it. You know, folks, you can sit
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: and drag AI all you like for any reason and
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: you're more than welcome to, but it makes podcasting a
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: hell of a lot fucking easier in terms of especially
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: watching foreign film. Apparently, holy shit, I can't even believe it.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: There are so many films I have been unable to
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: watch because there's no translated version. And that is such
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: an exciting prospect because and that's the thing I do
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: think is an interesting thing to mention. Being able to
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: watch these on prime video with a automatically synced English
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: subtitle track makes a world of difference for, and I'm,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: I'm mean this with absolutely no negativity towards the quality
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: of these movies makes it so much easier to try
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: to get normal people to watch one of these movies.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: If you're just like, it's on prime video, you don't
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: like the path of least resistance. You have to do
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: very little. Or it's on Netflix now. I mean, I,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: I just, I didn't realize that I had seen Dilsay
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: until I was at the Red Cross and put on
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: Netflix and was watching it. I was like, I've seen
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: this movie. I know exactly what's going to happen in
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: this movie. I've been at this train station. I remember
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: this woman. So it was very funny. But it's like, yeah, OK, great.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: Now I can just hop on Netflix and watch an
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: Indian film. And that's the best thing for me when
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: I'm giving platelets because they're about three hours long and
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: that's how long I'm in the chair. And Shah Rukh
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: Khan is so dreamy.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: He is, he is.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: He's a dreamboat. But you know what's funny? For as
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: dreamy as Shah Rukh Khan is, I love that Rajnikanth
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: is kind of, what is the energy Rajnikanth has? Is
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: it like manly energy? Because he's not bald, right? And
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: not being bald with his full head of hair, it's
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: like the image of manliness. Rajnikanth is just like a,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know, he's like a man's man, right? Yeah.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: Like what's funny is like, you look at him as
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: that character. It's like Stallone, Schwarzenegger, all these other actors
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: were chasing the thing that Rajnikanth has figured out how
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: to master, which is being believable at an older age
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: as a action star. Right. Right. Yeah. It works.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's, I mean, cause it's,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: it's like big grandpa energy these days, you know, especially like,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: you know, you get to see him caring for his
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: grandson and, you know, just being very sweet and everything. And,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: you know, working at the grocery store, I mean, this
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: might as well be like a fucking greeter at Walmart
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: or something.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: Clint Eastwood, right? Yeah.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: He's like Clint. He's like, it's kind of Denzel Washington
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: to me almost. Oh, it's like, you know, you push
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: Denzel so far, you know, he's going to start pushing back. Yes, exactly.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: It's kind of like those equalizer films that he's in.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I, I do think that that would be how
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: you would like sell these movies to an American audience.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: as like, you know, revenge grandpa, like in a lot
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: of ways, like, cause I mean, jailer, like, yeah, he's
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: a retired jailer. You know, he is at the end
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: of his career. You could make an entire, clearly you
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: can make a fucking entire series about him as a jailer.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: I'm sure. God only knows they very well might, you know,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: with a digitally DH. But it's, it's funny because that
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: is such a big component of this film. And the
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: last film is like the family. and Rajnikant's, you know,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: jailer's family, and, you know, he has a family, and
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: this family, he's defending his family, and his family is
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: kind of his, if he has any weak point, the
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: family is the weak point, you know, and I love that, like,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: the thing that's the weak point is how wholesome he is, apparently,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: how much he cares about his family, and, like, I
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: don't know, like, I'm not gonna say, like, we don't
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: see that as much in American cinema, but we don't
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: see that as much, like, we don't see, like, like
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: someone's family is like on screen and it's like believable
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: I'm you know trying to think of Disclosure Day you
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: mentioned that earlier like what was what was the reasoning
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: behind what Emily Blunt was doing it definitely wasn't her
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: shitty boyfriend you know it's like I don't know like
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: it's weird like they really they lean into the big
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: grandpa like you said big grandpa energy in a way
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: that's believable even though he is a 75 year old
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: man like he fucking decapitates multiple people in this movie
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: yeah And it doesn't, it tracks. I'm still like, like
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: you said, like, this is our hero. Like, this is
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: the guy who we're cheering for is the guy who's
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: blowing people up and cutting their heads off. It's like, yeah, sure.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: Sure is.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, so much fun. I mean, yeah, I agree. Like,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: I probably won't go back to this as much as
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: the first jailer, but I'll probably still go back to
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: it quite often because I just had a real fun
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: time with this.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: Same. Yeah, no, I'm excited for whatever they do with
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: the third one, which they're clearly angling for as long
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: as Rajnikanth is up for it. I'm excited for it.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I think for me, I enjoyed this movie.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed the experience of getting to go and watch
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: this movie. I enjoyed that the audience I saw it
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: with was there for the same reason I was, which
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: was to see a Rajnikanth film. But yeah, I don't
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: think that this is... this I don't think is going
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: to supplant the first one for me.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: No, no.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: I do think, and that's, I will say that that's
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: the thing that this movie is missing and it does
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: loom large over this movie. Obviously his back and forth
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: with his son in that first movie is really good.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: That relationship is really good and you're really invested in it.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: And by the end of the movie, when he asked
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: to kill his son, Oh yeah. It's a, it's an
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: earned moment, you know, it's really earned and that is
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: missing from this movie. It does feel like the missing component,
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: but that's, again, because that was the fucking driving force
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: of the first movie. But I do think that that
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: is why the first movie still just edges this one out,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: is because that back and forth with his son in
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: the first movie is so good. And the twist in
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: that movie is predicated on their relationship being as strong
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: as it is that that that is the one thing
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: one thing that is missing from this movie that does
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: kind of put it one notch beneath the first one
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: I was so glad when they showed that little clip
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: from the musical number from the first one, and you
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: got to see Blast Mohan or whoever, and it was like,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: it's this guy. And they had the picture of him
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: with the green outfit and everything, just taking that around.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they had planned that Jailer was
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: going to get a sequel three years ago, but it
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: feels like they really did a good job of integrating
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: the first movie into the second movie, so it felt
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: very natural.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: I assume, I don't know. I guess I don't know.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: My assumption is they knew what they were doing, but
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: maybe they didn't assume that they were going to have
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: a sequel. But they did a really good job, like
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: you said, of making the first movie part of the
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: second one without it getting in the way. I think
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: you could watch the second one without having watched the
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: first one and still enjoy it. Which, you know, I
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: don't know how many of the kids that were in
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: the movie theater with me that were clearly children had
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: even seen the first one. this might've been the first
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: movie they saw. I think you could still watch this
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: one without having seen the first one and understand what
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: the first one's kind of, where it got to by
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: the end of it. Did you hear any of the
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: people when they were walking out of the theater, their
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: responses or reactions to the movie? Because the people I
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: heard enjoyed it immensely. Like adults and kids were seemingly
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: very enthralled and had a good time with this movie.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: So it also is working like gangbusters, which I'm happy for.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: It seemed like everybody was pretty darn happy. I didn't, I,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: I hung out in the theater for a little while
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: waiting for that extra scene at the end with Nick Fury.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: With Nick Fury. Yeah.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: And then there was a little bit of like with
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: Owen Wilson and something about like the, the, multiverse is
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: collapsing or something like that, but right.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: But no, I hung out in the theater just because
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: it was pretty crowded and I wanted everybody to be
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: able to drive away first before, before we got out there.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: Cause I didn't want to deal with the parking lot mess.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I, man. Yeah. I, I, we were, it was
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: the fucking movie got out of like midnight. Yeah. We
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: were like the only people in the parking lot when
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: it got out. I will say I'm not a huge
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: fan of only one showing. that promotes a little bit
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: of weird scarcity. Cause I feel like, uh, if you
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: want to go see this movie, you should be able to,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: but you know, only one theater, one showing that's better
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: than none. So exactly. Yeah. Which there are none in Lincoln.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: So maybe put one in Lincoln.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: For fuck's sake.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: No, don't just put them in Omaha. That's the weird
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: thing for me. I had been able to watch Indian
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: cinema in Lincoln at the downtown grand more or less
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: up until this point, I wonder why this film was
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: not there. I'm wondering if something, because maybe because of
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: something like, uh, you can see everything, which I know
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: like is only showing it one theater in Lincoln and
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: that's downtown. That may be why something like this didn't open.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: Cause normally we do get in a Indian film pretty regularly.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I saw a baton there and I'm
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: assuming at least Joanne and maybe jailer. So, No, I'm
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: just glad we're able to go and see these movies
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: easier than before, because that's that's nice. That's nice that
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: we don't have to go to a VHS store in
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: a Indian supermarket to get a poorly pirated or possibly
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: not pirated with no English subtitles version of the film.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: So film together, you can find us. on a variety
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: of other shows at weirdingwaymedia.com. That is the all new
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: website that Mike made for our podcast network that we
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: have been running together since 2019. Seven years, Mike. Jeez Louise.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: I think it's technically going on eight now. It has
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: been seven because I want to say we started the
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: network in like August of 2019, if memory serves. I
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: want to say something like that.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: I think it was 2022 myself.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: No, it was pre-pandemic.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: Wow. It was pre-pandemic when we, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: It was 2019. It's been seven years. Oh, yeah. Yeah,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: isn't that crazy? That's wild. Where's 2022?
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was 2022. I thought it was
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: because I was working at UWM. I remember when I
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: was talking with Amy and you on the phone at
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: the same time.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, maybe I'm all fucked. No, I don't know. I
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was switching back over from another company
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: that I started dealing with in 2021. They were hosting
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: instead of Spreaker. Huh. And they were not paying me
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: on a regular basis. They don't pay me no more.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: Why am I thinking 2019? Because didn't we switch to
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: Spreaker in like 2019?
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: Maybe you did. And then we combined forces in 2022.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: Huh. Well, folks, we'll have to go and look. It's
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: been a long time and we've done a lot of recording.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: As you can tell, we clearly don't even remember now
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: all of the things we've done together. My God. But
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: if you want to hear all of that, that audio
• 1:34:05
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• 1:34:09
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• 1:34:12
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• 1:34:18
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• 1:34:20
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• 1:34:24
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• 1:34:26
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• 1:34:43
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• 1:34:45
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• 1:34:47
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• 1:34:50
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• 1:34:59
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• 1:35:02
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• 1:35:03
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• 1:35:04
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• 1:35:07
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