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- 0:00In this lessons episode, discover how to turn life's harshest rejections into catalysts
- 0:04for growth with a simple four-step framework. Learn why observing your inner talk track reveals
- 0:09the root beliefs holding you back. Learn how pausing and exploring those beliefs
- 0:13frees you from old trauma. Learn how naming your next step empowers you to move forward with
- 0:17purpose. Obviously that has an impact on your talk track because then you start to see signs
- 0:33that rejection is a gift. But is there is there work that somebody has to do beyond that?
- 0:39That's like a shock. That's like a sort of a flash in the pan event and you're like oh shit,
- 0:44it's like a wake up call, which is it's good. Those things, those things help. But
- 0:49for somebody who's gone through a life of trauma, how do they rewrite their talk track fully?
- 0:56I think now that I'm kind of on the other side of this revelation, I truly believe that it starts
- 1:04with observing what is the talk track because what's going to have to happen in order to even get
- 1:09to a place of healing and freedom is you're going to have to be able to go back to the place where
- 1:14the defeat happened. You're going to have to be able to go back to the place where there were words
- 1:20that were spoken over you. There was an action that was taken because sometimes it's not even words.
- 1:24It's what people do. It's the fact that your father chose to leave when you were in elementary
- 1:30school. It's the fact that this person that you loved chose to leave and be with somebody else.
- 1:37It's not even what they said, it's what they did. So you have to go back and you have to begin
- 1:41to ask yourself, what did I believe because of what was said or because of what was done? And
- 1:49is that true? For example, when he cheated on me, I thought no one will ever want me. How could
- 1:59anyone ever want me? Like, I gave my heart to this guy and he basically discarded it. No one will
- 2:06ever want me. Well, as it turns out, I actually had other relationships after him. Some of them
- 2:12were crazy, but one in particular ended in marriage and my husband and I have been married now for
- 2:1720 years. And so this, this idea that no one will ever want me actually isn't true. And here's
- 2:24the thing, even if I never got married, this is where I know there are some people who don't
- 2:29necessarily believe in like God or spirituality or anything like that. But I want to say this,
- 2:34I was a microbiology and self-science major in college. I love science. I love math. I think I
- 2:39took up to like count five. I love calculus of all the things. It is literally impossible.
- 2:46There is no law of physics where order descends from chaos. Think about it like this. If a
- 2:52chandelier drops from the ceiling and crashes onto the ground, I don't care how many millennia go by,
- 3:00it's not going to either reform into a chandelier or something beautiful and amazing, right?
- 3:05It's going to just continue to disintegrate. And I say that because no matter what you've been told,
- 3:10you are not a mistake. No matter what has happened to you, you are not an accident. Somebody else's
- 3:16choice was not your fault. And it doesn't invalidate the purpose on your life. And so you have to
- 3:23observe, what is the talk track? And is it true? Because even if they didn't want you, the reality
- 3:29is you are here because you have purpose on your life. I mentioned this before we press record. And I
- 3:36think it's just an interesting point. I want to get your perspective on it. And I love that. I love
- 3:40that. I love that sort of that thought experience. It makes a lot of sense when you lay it out how
- 3:46everyone is, it takes so much, there's so many coincidences or however you want to call it that
- 3:54we're alive here living today. It almost seems impossible. I think statistically it is almost
- 4:01impossible that we're alive living here today. But I think that a lot of people, they don't have
- 4:07spirituality and I think less and less people have got in their life. And maybe not just
- 4:15speak about the important, speak about if somebody does not have God in their life, what problems do
- 4:23they run into when facing rejection? Is there, is there ways that God's spirituality helps? I'm sure
- 4:32because I mean, you've mentioned it that it's impacted your life twice just in this conversation.
- 4:37But if somebody doesn't have that peace in their life, what is the puzzle piece or the component
- 4:44that they're missing that they should try and solve for to make some of these difficult life
- 4:50events a little bit easier? I love this question because what I can tell you first of all, I did not
- 4:56grow up in a church going home. Like I didn't grow up in a situation where I just knew about the
- 5:03Bible or Jesus or God or any of that. I had my own encounter, my own awakening, my own experience.
- 5:10And what I will tell you is I had my own awakening in the middle of being abused and not
- 5:19not the act, but I'm saying in the chronology of my life, the abuse was still happening. And so
- 5:26what it did for me is my awareness about God. There's a, there's a verse of Scripture in the
- 5:32Bible that says it's in Romans chapter 8 verse 28 and what it says is that God will work all things
- 5:39together for the good of those who love him and are called according to his purpose. What that
- 5:44says to me and what that even said to me then is this situation may not be good, but God has
- 5:52made a promise to work it together for my good, which means I have to figure out what is the good
- 5:58in this? Like that, that what is what is the kernel of good in this that could serve other people?
- 6:06I think what, what spirituality does, what faith does is it gives you an anchor for hope.
- 6:12In the absence of, of the belief that all things will work together for my good, you can get so
- 6:19fixated on the bad and what happened that you lose sight of this will eventually work together
- 6:25for my good. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, maybe not even next year, but I know at some point
- 6:30I will look back on this situation and I will be able to say, oh, that's why that happened.
- 6:35I think about my God, I think about the rejection of my mom, I think about the many times I was
- 6:42cheated on, I think about professional rejection, like deep, deep rejections that I've experienced
- 6:48and every single experience has worked together in some way for my purpose and for the ability to
- 6:55serve other people. And so even if a person doesn't have a faith or spirituality, I do think that
- 7:01what we ultimately need is we need hope. And that's why the gift of rejection is really a message
- 7:06about hope. It sounds crazy, right? It's like, how can you say rejection is a gift? But understanding
- 7:12that it is is a source of hope. And I take my hope from my faith in God and just knowing that
- 7:18it may not feel good, but it will eventually be good if I just continue in persevere in this,
- 7:24in this situation. I think it's beautiful, but I think the biggest issue with, with lack of faith
- 7:29or spirituality or God and I've, I love this, I don't love this concept, but I love sort of this
- 7:36thought experiment is when you do not have God or spirituality in your life, something else
- 7:41becomes your God or your spirituality and it could be, it could be money, it could be women,
- 7:48it could be gambling, it could be drugs, it could be alcohol, it could even be work, which is
- 7:53technically not a vice, but it cannot be all consuming. And when shit hits the fan,
- 8:00none of these things really give hope because they're, they're, they're not things that you,
- 8:06they're not things that like kind of like exactly what you describe, they let you see some potential
- 8:11better future. They're just sort of these vices in the moment. And I think people, yes.
- 8:16You're absolutely right. We, we actually all do have a place that we look to for hope.
- 8:25Some of us, and you use the exact right word is like, our God is something. For some of us,
- 8:30our God is frankly ourselves. Like we're like, look, I, I'm got it all figured out and I'll make it
- 8:35happen and I'll make it, but there comes a point where you just realize that you've exhausted all
- 8:41of your personal resources. And, and you need, you need that higher power to be able to, to
- 8:49kind of re-infuse the sense that, yeah, I can't do this on my own. I can't. And I have, I have a
- 8:55bunch of friends who are APS and agnostic and I'll also, I'll always joke with them because I'm like,
- 8:59you guys actually have more faith than I do because you have to have a lot of faith to look around
- 9:05at all this and be like, I just came from nowhere, you know, you have that. So we all have faith in
- 9:11something. Yeah. No, that's, I love that. I want to, just to a framework that people can at
- 9:17least walk away with. And I'm just going to caveat with this. So, so the book is out now. So you
- 9:26can get it wherever you get your books. Like we'll put, we'll put the links in the show though,
- 9:29to whatnot. But one framework that you speak about is the open framework. And so I just want to
- 9:36leave people with a framework they can take away and they're going to go dive into the book and
- 9:40learn a little bit more obviously. But I want to, I want to unpack that one. Thank you for, for
- 9:45even offering me the opportunities to do this because one of the things I am very careful about
- 9:49as a writer is I don't ever want people to read my books and just be like, oh, that was nice. I
- 9:55don't know what to do with it. That's, honestly, one of the reasons I write my books is because I want
- 10:00people to be able to have practical tools that they can apply that I had to discover on my own,
- 10:05because I couldn't find it anywhere else. So the open framework is, it's essentially kind of a
- 10:10four part framework that will help you really start to get intentional about understanding what is
- 10:16the gift in this rejection experience. And so the, oh, stands for observe. And I talked about this
- 10:22a little bit earlier, but what you want to do is when a rejection happens before you allow yourself
- 10:27to mentally, emotionally, psychologically, and spiritually spiral into your normal rabbit hole,
- 10:32you want to observe what am I thinking and what am I feeling? What are the thoughts that are just
- 10:39automatically playing in my mind? What are the feelings that are just automatically cascading
- 10:45through my body? And when you kind of pause and you, and you actually think about the thoughts,
- 10:50like metacognition, like you think about the thoughts, you're actually able to then begin to
- 10:55pinpoint where did this come from? Where did this, this belief that nobody wants me? Where did this
- 11:02idea come from? And once you can actually pinpoint where the idea came from, now you have something
- 11:09that you can start to work with, okay? And it's important to pinpoint it because until you identify
- 11:15where it comes from, you'll think it's you. You'll think this was just my own thought, but I promise
- 11:22you, 95% of what we think after we experience rejection was seeded into us by words somebody else
- 11:28said. So start with observing. Secondly, what I encourage people to do is just pause. Just pause.
- 11:36Don't allow yourself to act because sometimes what we'll do is the pain will be so real that
- 11:42we'll just want to either get back at the person immediately. We'll want to take some sort of
- 11:47action to try to, you know, nullify the pain. No, just just pause. What I do is I pause and I pray.
- 11:54And I actually bring those thoughts to God. I'm like, okay, I just thought my thought was no one
- 12:01will ever want me. No one ever supports me. No one ever. And I bring it to God because that
- 12:07then gives me the opportunity to reflect on is this true? You know, as I've been releasing this book
- 12:13about rejection, I've been experiencing so much rejection. God, it's been crazy. I run it. And I got
- 12:19isn't ironic. And I got to a place where I literally felt I was like, man, nobody's nobody
- 12:24supporting me. But as I pause and I prayed about that, I had to actually reflect on the fact that
- 12:29wait a minute. A lot of people are supporting me. And there are people supporting me who I've
- 12:33even not even met before. And like even being on this platform is just such a gift because it's
- 12:39like you so lovingly cultivated this platform. And yet you're inviting me on it. Like that is a gift
- 12:45that counters the idea that nobody supports me. Nobody wants to be right. So we pause and we
- 12:51pause and for me, I pray and I just get into a meditative place. And then the E is explore.
- 12:58So I believe that every rejection has a lesson that it can teach us about ourselves or about
- 13:03others. In the case of my book release and, you know, having some folks that I thought I could count
- 13:08on not show up for me. As I explored that, what I realized is I placed them in a category of
- 13:14friendship that they actually worked in. Like these are people that I supported. These are people
- 13:18that I just knew would show up for me that didn't. And so as I explored it, I realized, oh,
- 13:23our relationship actually isn't where I thought it was. So now I don't hold a grudge against you
- 13:29because you didn't show up. I just realized I can't count on you for what I thought I could count on
- 13:33you for. And so that then changes the nature of the relationship. And the last step, which is in
- 13:38the end stands for name. And what I talk about is just name your next step. So you've observed your
- 13:43thoughts. You know how you're feeling. You've paused. You've actually explored the lessons and
- 13:48the experience. Now what are you going to do with what you've learned and how's it going to change
- 13:54the way that you show up? So that's the open framework at a nutshell. And you're right, I go into a
- 13:58lot more detail in the book, but, but it's practical. And it's something that I'd even used as I've
- 14:03experienced rejection of releasing the book. And it works. Thanks for tuning in. If you found this
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