Latest / Brian Thomas / Daniel Davis Deep Dive -- 2/10/26
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- 0:50Speaker 1: Hey, thirty one Tuesday, it is the time we do
- 0:52Speaker 1: a Daniel Davis deep dive retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis.
- 0:56Speaker 1: You can find his podcast where we get your podcasts.
- 0:58Speaker 1: Just search for Daniel Davis Deep Dive. Welcome back, my friend.
- 1:01Speaker 1: It is always a distinct pleasure to have you on
- 1:03Speaker 1: the fifty.
- 1:03Speaker 3: Five KRC Morning Show, sir, and a distinct pleasure to
- 1:06Speaker 3: be here, Brian, thanks for having me back.
- 1:08Speaker 1: All right, it seems to me we've gone down this
- 1:10Speaker 1: road before negotiating with Iran over nuke's missiles generally speaking,
- 1:14Speaker 1: although I read this morning that the Iran Foreign Minister said, well,
- 1:18Speaker 1: Iran will not negotiate on its ballistic missile program, which
- 1:21Speaker 1: is a core US demand. So where are we, Daniel Davis.
- 1:26Speaker 1: We got all the military resources you know, all around
- 1:28Speaker 1: the area, aircraft, carriers and battleships, and we've got subs,
- 1:32Speaker 1: and it looks like we're getting ready to go into war,
- 1:35Speaker 1: Daniel Davis, And I know we have to have a
- 1:37Speaker 1: strong military presence to back up whatever we are trying
- 1:40Speaker 1: to get them to concede to. But they're threatening all
- 1:43Speaker 1: of our military bases. In general, chaos in the Middle
- 1:46Speaker 1: East at large, people are definitely going to die. So
- 1:49Speaker 1: I don't know we've got a stronger military, but they've
- 1:52Speaker 1: certainly are in a position to provide some massive chaos
- 1:56Speaker 1: and destruction.
- 1:57Speaker 4: So what is going on?
- 1:59Speaker 1: Here Daniel Davis boiling it down.
- 2:02Speaker 3: You know what, that's that's a really good question to
- 2:05Speaker 3: be asking. And I would love it if more people
- 2:08Speaker 3: in the White House were apparently asking all of those questions,
- 2:11Speaker 3: and not just the ones that should we or shouldn't
- 2:13Speaker 3: we attack Iran?
- 2:14Speaker 4: But what's gonna happen next?
- 2:15Speaker 3: Listen, Heading into the last the nearly direct conversations that
- 2:19Speaker 3: we had in the Middle East with Iran, between the
- 2:22Speaker 3: United States and Iran, you had Secretary of State Rubio
- 2:25Speaker 3: go on and explicitly say, there are four conditions that
- 2:28Speaker 3: we have to meet for these negotiations.
- 2:30Speaker 4: They have to have enrichment.
- 2:32Speaker 3: They have to have the nuclear program, well the nuclear
- 2:36Speaker 3: not weapons because they claim they don't have those, but
- 2:39Speaker 3: the missile program, the proxies, and they can't kill their people.
- 2:42Speaker 3: He said, those four things were the things that they
- 2:43Speaker 3: had to talk about Iran before the talk said we
- 2:47Speaker 3: ain't talking about any of that stuff. We're going to
- 2:48Speaker 3: talk about we'll we'll talk about the enrichment portion and
- 2:52Speaker 3: will minimize it or reduce it if there's a good deal.
- 2:55Speaker 3: And they specifically said, listen, there has to be a
- 2:58Speaker 3: win win here. You have to give us some in
- 3:00Speaker 3: order to get something. But we're at least willing to
- 3:01Speaker 3: talk about that one thing. And so I don't understand
- 3:05Speaker 3: why we're entering into that with any other expectations, because
- 3:09Speaker 3: it would make no sense for Iran to negotiate away
- 3:13Speaker 3: it's missile forces and it's proxy because those are the
- 3:15Speaker 3: absolute two central pillars upon which their entire national defense
- 3:19Speaker 3: is predicated. So you would literally be asking them to
- 3:22Speaker 3: surrender all their ability to defend themselves for nothing in return,
- 3:26Speaker 3: and no one's going to do that.
- 3:28Speaker 4: So, yes, Iran.
- 3:29Speaker 3: Has logically said, if you attack us anyway, then we
- 3:33Speaker 3: do have this capability. And this is this is not
- 3:35Speaker 3: a promise, this is a demonstrated capability. They have the
- 3:38Speaker 3: ability with these ballistic weapons, lots of swarming drones, they
- 3:44Speaker 3: can cause tremendous amounts of damage and destruction if we
- 3:47Speaker 3: are if we attack them. But they said, for sure,
- 3:49Speaker 3: we don't want a war. We will not attack anyone
- 3:52Speaker 3: unless we're hit. So that has to factor in with
- 3:55Speaker 3: what the White House is doing. And I'll just be
- 3:58Speaker 3: frank with you, Brian, I see zero upside for the
- 4:01Speaker 3: United States and launching an attack on Iran, and lots
- 4:04Speaker 3: of downside and we may not be able to coerce
- 4:08Speaker 3: them into what we want, even if we unleash Holy Hell,
- 4:11Speaker 3: as Trump has called it, because we have no ground component,
- 4:15Speaker 3: and it's just remarkably difficult to get all of the
- 4:18Speaker 3: offensive missiles which are now spread all throughout their huge
- 4:21Speaker 3: country three or four times bigger than in Iraq.
- 4:24Speaker 4: If you can believe that ninety million.
- 4:26Speaker 3: People and then think that you're gonna knock all that
- 4:29Speaker 3: stuff out and you're gonna be able to defend against
- 4:31Speaker 3: their ballistic missiles that are coming back, and we can't.
- 4:35Speaker 3: We can diminish them, but we can't knock them all out.
- 4:38Speaker 3: Our air defenses at Israel's air defenses are not that good.
- 4:41Speaker 3: And that's where we are. So I guess where does
- 4:47Speaker 3: this leave us? Because you know, a lot of my
- 4:48Speaker 3: listeners are clamored to just go ahead and draw bombs
- 4:50Speaker 3: on them, and I'll go back to the Constitution because
- 4:52Speaker 3: you and I had a conversation about this. This would
- 4:55Speaker 3: be launching a war, right, I mean, is there any
- 4:58Speaker 3: other way of looking at it? This isn't like not
- 5:01Speaker 3: this is not even like the you know, the so
- 5:02Speaker 3: called twelve Dy war, which is primarily Iran in Israel,
- 5:05Speaker 3: and then we came in one day and actually about
- 5:07Speaker 3: a two hour time frame and hit a bunch of
- 5:10Speaker 3: specific targets related to their nuclear program.
- 5:13Speaker 4: That was what that Now.
- 5:14Speaker 3: I think that qualified then too because you attacked in
- 5:17Speaker 3: it to a foreign country. But this one, what we're
- 5:19Speaker 3: talking about is an outright war. I mean, it's talking
- 5:22Speaker 3: about you have all this combat power, you're talking about
- 5:25Speaker 3: taking out the regime. That's that's one of the stated
- 5:27Speaker 3: objectives by many close to the to the White House
- 5:30Speaker 3: saying that this is all about regime change. And you
- 5:33Speaker 3: destroy the Irgc, the political leaders, the missile forces, their navy.
- 5:39Speaker 4: That's a war.
- 5:40Speaker 3: And so unless we're gonna just say the constition no
- 5:43Speaker 3: longer cares, no longer matters, and we will just blow
- 5:45Speaker 3: it off, we have to get a congressional declaration before that,
- 5:49Speaker 3: but of course we're not going to.
- 5:50Speaker 4: So that is by itself a concern in my view. Well,
- 5:53Speaker 4: let me ask you this.
- 5:55Speaker 1: If Iran is capable of unleashing this holy hell and
- 5:59Speaker 1: shooting its ballistic missiles at all of our military bases
- 6:01Speaker 1: or whatever, I mean, clearly some are going to get through.
- 6:04Speaker 1: I acknowledge that and agree with it all day long.
- 6:06Speaker 1: Why didn't they do that in response to the Twelve
- 6:08Speaker 1: Day War when we bomb the crop out of their
- 6:10Speaker 1: nuclear facilities.
- 6:11Speaker 3: That's like big It is a good question, and there
- 6:14Speaker 3: is a definite answer. At that time what we said
- 6:16Speaker 3: we were going after the nuclear program alone. This time
- 6:20Speaker 3: we're signaling its regime change. So Iran had every incentive
- 6:24Speaker 3: in the world to mitigate and moderate their response then,
- 6:30Speaker 3: because they definitely did not want to precipitate in all
- 6:32Speaker 3: that war with the United States because they knew that
- 6:34Speaker 3: over time we could probably either cause profound damage or
- 6:39Speaker 3: possibly even destroy them, so they didn't want to do that.
- 6:41Speaker 3: This time, we're telling them ahead of time, you don't
- 6:44Speaker 3: have any reason to withhold anything, because we're trying to
- 6:48Speaker 3: flat out destroy you and kill your leaders and destroy
- 6:51Speaker 3: the regime completely. So now then they have every incentive
- 6:55Speaker 3: to launch everything they have and hold nothing back, because
- 6:57Speaker 3: what goods do to have a missile force if your
- 7:00Speaker 3: leaders are dead and you don't even get to use it.
- 7:02Speaker 4: That's the big difference here.
- 7:03Speaker 1: Well, and we've commented you and I have talked about
- 7:06Speaker 1: many times and that we have a limited amount of hardware.
- 7:10Speaker 1: This has been a situation with Russia and Ukraine as well.
- 7:12Speaker 1: I mean there's only a fine out amount of resources.
- 7:14Speaker 1: I would imagine that Iran is probably a lesser position
- 7:17Speaker 1: with the finite amount of resources. They only have so
- 7:19Speaker 1: many rockets they can launch and so many sites that
- 7:22Speaker 1: they can attack if we ended up in a conflict,
- 7:26Speaker 1: Not that I want to go down that road, Daniel Davis,
- 7:27Speaker 1: but don't we I mean, can't we win? If we're
- 7:30Speaker 1: talking about like a a sort of like a war
- 7:31Speaker 1: of attrition? Could they re up their stockpiles? Is China
- 7:35Speaker 1: or Russia going to be involved in this? I mean
- 7:37Speaker 1: it's a lot of layers. It depends on what we're
- 7:40Speaker 1: willing to do politically. If you're saying we're willing to
- 7:43Speaker 1: spend six nine months, maybe a year a year of
- 7:48Speaker 1: high intensity conflict and all of the casualties that would
- 7:50Speaker 1: come with that, then yes, they have a fine out
- 7:52Speaker 1: amount and we have more. But we have global requirements
- 7:55Speaker 1: as well, and so you would have to say, how
- 7:58Speaker 1: many missiles can our bases endure receiving in the Middle East?
- 8:03Speaker 1: How many casualties can we have and sustain over this time?
- 8:06Speaker 1: How many cashews can the Israelis have Because they're going
- 8:09Speaker 1: to be a primary target as well. And I would
- 8:11Speaker 1: wager that if it's an existential battle, that Iran will
- 8:15Speaker 1: not just strict solely military targets, but will go after
- 8:18Speaker 1: high value and high casualty producing targets as well, because
- 8:22Speaker 1: they're not going to go down empty handed. They're not
- 8:24Speaker 1: going to allow themselves to be destroyed and not inflict
- 8:28Speaker 1: profound damage on the other side. So it is theoretically possible,
- 8:32Speaker 1: and if you just did a war of attrition, we
- 8:33Speaker 1: would probably win as long as we don't ever get
- 8:36Speaker 1: called and defied anything in Europe, as long as we
- 8:38Speaker 1: don't get called tofied anything in Asia or anywhere else
- 8:42Speaker 1: on the globe.
- 8:43Speaker 3: But why would we want to lower all of our stocks,
- 8:47Speaker 3: have a number of our people killed for nothing that
- 8:50Speaker 3: benefits our country. That's what I am so emphatic about here.
- 8:54Speaker 3: There is no threat to America that is worth all
- 8:57Speaker 3: of that expense, and we should not even start it.
- 9:00Speaker 1: So ultimately this boils down to this benefits primarily Israel.
- 9:06Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, it does.
- 9:07Speaker 3: I mean that's why benjaminette Yaw, who's on his way
- 9:10Speaker 3: to Washington right now, there's going to be a meeting
- 9:12Speaker 3: tomorrow the last time he was here on December twenty eighth,
- 9:16Speaker 3: A whole bunch of actions started happening right after that,
- 9:18Speaker 3: and you had the big protest started. Bessett said, we
- 9:21Speaker 3: initiated by destroying their reality and trying to sabotage their economy.
- 9:27Speaker 3: Would certainly work to get the protests up, but then
- 9:29Speaker 3: it didn't have enough staying power, etc.
- 9:31Speaker 4: That's what happened last time.
- 9:32Speaker 3: And we can only imagine that he's coming to try
- 9:35Speaker 3: and talk Trump into doing it now because most people
- 9:38Speaker 3: thought me included that this would already have happened, that
- 9:40Speaker 3: the attack would happen, because everything's in place now, it
- 9:43Speaker 3: has been for a while. The question is what's he
- 9:46Speaker 3: going to do. Because here's the thing. You either have
- 9:48Speaker 3: to you know, I won't use the phrase, but you
- 9:51Speaker 3: have to do something now or get off because you
- 9:53Speaker 3: can't leave all this combat power poison waiting and then
- 9:56Speaker 3: never use it. You're gonna have to either use it
- 9:58Speaker 3: or redeploy it pretty soon.
- 10:00Speaker 1: Donald Trump said, they've got to be floating around somewhere,
- 10:02Speaker 1: so why not just let them float around there?
- 10:04Speaker 4: The boats and the ships. I'm just saying, okay.
- 10:07Speaker 1: Speaking about electrician let's just pivot over briefly to talk
- 10:10Speaker 1: about the latest in Russia and Ukraine, you know, going
- 10:12Speaker 1: further to your point, I mean, if you look at
- 10:14Speaker 1: you know, Ukraine's army, Russia's army one is bigger than
- 10:17Speaker 1: the other. You would have thought Russia could have gone
- 10:18Speaker 1: through and just roll right over Ukraine. At the outset
- 10:21Speaker 1: here we are, what is it, year three, It's taken
- 10:24Speaker 1: a lot longer, year four four. It's taken a lot
- 10:27Speaker 1: longer for Russia to roll over the much smaller and
- 10:30Speaker 1: inferior army in Ukraine. That's a learning exercise for a
- 10:34Speaker 1: giant power like ours too. In this in this as
- 10:36Speaker 1: we discussed these conflicts.
- 10:38Speaker 3: Well, except that it's not quite as simple as that,
- 10:41Speaker 3: because it's not just the big Russia against the little
- 10:44Speaker 3: Ukraine except in manpower and that one category it is
- 10:48Speaker 3: that and that that is that is having its it's uh,
- 10:51Speaker 3: it's an expected reaction. But it is the entire fifty
- 10:56Speaker 3: nation UH coalition of the willing, mostly NATO, using Ukraine
- 11:01Speaker 3: as the proxy. So it is two major powers going
- 11:04Speaker 3: against each other through the vehicle of the Ukraine side.
- 11:07Speaker 3: That's important to understand because too many people want to
- 11:09Speaker 3: mock the Russians that they can't defeat this little Ukraine.
- 11:12Speaker 3: But it's never been just Russia against the little Ukraine.
- 11:15Speaker 3: It's been Russia against the juggernaut of all of these
- 11:19Speaker 3: fifty nations, which we brag about all the time about
- 11:21Speaker 3: how everybody's supplying Ukraine with everything they need to fight.
- 11:25Speaker 3: Ukraine has to provide. The manpower problem is they don't
- 11:28Speaker 3: have enough manpower. So Russia has calculated that Okay, we're
- 11:32Speaker 3: going to go the slow, methodical path and limit our
- 11:35Speaker 3: friendly casualties because they can't sustain what the firepower we're
- 11:39Speaker 3: bringing in, and it's working out that way. Their time
- 11:42Speaker 3: is different than ours, Brian. They're willing to go slow,
- 11:45Speaker 3: even if it took another year. I don't think it will,
- 11:47Speaker 3: but they say that you can't sustain the manpower, and
- 11:50Speaker 3: no matter what you get from the West, we can
- 11:52Speaker 3: over we can saturate it with firepower and you'll eventually
- 11:55Speaker 3: be ground to nothing.
- 11:57Speaker 4: But we are still.
- 11:58Speaker 3: Growing and getting bigger on their offensive side, and it's
- 12:02Speaker 3: just gonna play out that way. So there's no path
- 12:05Speaker 3: that I mean zero to stop Russia right now. The
- 12:08Speaker 3: only question is how fast are they going to go
- 12:10Speaker 3: or you know, how slow or methodical, but they're gonna end.
- 12:13Speaker 1: Up with the victory a victory, and how that victory
- 12:16Speaker 1: looks is I guess the question to be determined because
- 12:19Speaker 1: you know certain land will be conceded, will be given
- 12:21Speaker 1: over by Ukraine, I presume the areas.
- 12:23Speaker 3: Or it'll be just taken by the Russians one or
- 12:25Speaker 3: the other. And then that's what they're saying, you're either
- 12:27Speaker 3: going to work it by negotiations or we're going to
- 12:29Speaker 3: take you by force, and they're.
- 12:30Speaker 1: Open and plain about that, and they'll be an occupying force.
- 12:33Speaker 1: Then if they take over Ukraine, right, I mean, doesn't I.
- 12:37Speaker 3: Say, what they're going to want to do is they're
- 12:38Speaker 3: going to take areage where there is a significant portion
- 12:41Speaker 3: of Russian speakers, right, And then I think they'll stop
- 12:43Speaker 3: because I don't think that that they want any part
- 12:46Speaker 3: of going into the west of the des River, because
- 12:49Speaker 3: that is just like a beehive and trying to Yeah,
- 12:53Speaker 3: so I don't think they would even want to, but
- 12:55Speaker 3: they will go that far because it is primarily a
- 12:59Speaker 3: Russian speakers in there, and then they're still going to
- 13:02Speaker 3: deal with it because there's no doubt in my mind
- 13:03Speaker 3: that if Russia even Conkers to the Danepa River. That
- 13:06Speaker 3: there is already plans in place for there to be
- 13:09Speaker 3: a you know, a partisan kind of long term chancer
- 13:14Speaker 3: in the in the rear of the Russians.
- 13:15Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they're aware of it.
- 13:17Speaker 3: But that's yeah, so this won't end even then, it'll
- 13:20Speaker 3: just change dynamics, which is bad, bad, bad for the
- 13:22Speaker 3: people of Ukraine.
- 13:23Speaker 1: Yeah, the guerrilla warfare fighting from the hills against the
- 13:26Speaker 1: evil Russians, hit and attack and run, and that's you
- 13:29Speaker 1: bought that long term to the extent, you know, they
- 13:31Speaker 1: want to take over more. Daniel Davis Deep Die find
- 13:34Speaker 1: them on podcasts The Retire Lieutenant Colonel. It's always great
- 13:36Speaker 1: having you on the show. I appreciate your thoughtful analysis
- 13:39Speaker 1: and we'll do it again next Tuesday, my friend, have.
- 13:41Speaker 4: A great week. Thanks Ryan, see you next week.
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