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Andy Stanley - The Accessibility of a Leader · Andy Stanley Sermons

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Andy Stanley Leadership Podcast, The conversation designed
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Speaker 3: to help leaders go further faster. On today's podcast, we're
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Speaker 3: going to explore how to respond to the increased demands
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Speaker 3: on a leader's time. Andy, we first talked about this
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Speaker 3: topic on the podcast a little over a year ago,
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Speaker 3: but it's so important we felt like it warranted more discussion.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure we could ever talk about this
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Speaker 1: too much. The harsh reality of leadership is that the
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Speaker 1: more successful we are, the less accessible we become. The
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Speaker 1: more successful we are, the less accessible we become. And
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Speaker 1: the truth is from more most leaders we want to
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Speaker 1: be more accessible because there are more people to be
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Speaker 1: accessible to. But it just it doesn't work that way.
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Speaker 3: So any accessibility really is a casualty of a growing
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Speaker 3: ministry or organization.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And the truth is it should be. As things
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Speaker 1: grow and as more people are involved, a leader can't
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Speaker 1: be equally accessible to all people. And so then we're
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Speaker 1: faced with the dilemma of who gets my time and
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Speaker 1: who doesn't, When do they get it, and how much
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Speaker 1: of it do they get?
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Speaker 3: So it's kind of like having engine trouble in a Ferrari.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, it's a successful person's problem. It's only the
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Speaker 1: person in a growing organization, whether it's ministry or a business,
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Speaker 1: that has the problem of why there are too many
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Speaker 1: people I need to be with. There's too many people
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Speaker 1: I need to give my time to.
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Speaker 3: Well what are the I guess common reactions you see
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Speaker 3: when a leader faces this for the first time.
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Speaker 2: Well, there's two things. I think.
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Speaker 1: Initially, we all try to be all things to all people,
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Speaker 1: and we all try to continued to be as accessible to.
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Speaker 2: Everyone as we always have been.
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Speaker 1: And I one of the most difficult transitions I made
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Speaker 1: in our organization was several years ago when I had
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Speaker 1: to reorg our entire leadership team. And again, I, like
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Speaker 1: most leaders, I thought, oh, I can figure this out.
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Speaker 1: I'm constantly giving advice in this area. So I just
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Speaker 1: sat down with my list and I decided I would
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Speaker 1: figure out the reorg and I couldn't do it.
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Speaker 2: I just couldn't do it.
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Speaker 1: And the reason I couldn't do it I did not
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Speaker 1: want to become less accessible to people I had been
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Speaker 1: very accessible to in some cases for years and in
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Speaker 1: some cases from the beginning. And so I, you know,
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Speaker 1: I had five or six people, you being one of them,
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Speaker 1: who had been here from the beginning. I didn't want
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Speaker 1: to become less accessible. At the same time, I had
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Speaker 1: new members of the management team that I needed to
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Speaker 1: be accessible to. And I finally gave up and hired
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Speaker 1: a consultant and brought them in and said, I can't
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Speaker 1: figure this out. And the bottom line was the exercise
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Speaker 1: was too emotional for me. And so, you know, that's
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Speaker 1: not unique to me. I think a lot of leaders
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Speaker 1: faced that. So actually he came in and took me
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Speaker 1: through several exercises that helped me bring some objectivity to
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Speaker 1: the you know, to the process. But then I had
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Speaker 1: to sit down with people i'd been very accessible to
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Speaker 1: and say, well, you're no longer going to be a
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Speaker 1: direct report, which means I'm not going to be as
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Speaker 1: accessible to you. But that was the only way to
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Speaker 1: grow this organization. So this is a constant struggle. There's
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Speaker 1: a lot of angst around this. So again, you know,
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Speaker 1: one of the ways people respond to this is they
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Speaker 1: refuse to deal with the reality I can't be as accessible.
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Speaker 1: The other extreme is to decide, well, since I can't
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Speaker 1: be accessible to everyone, I will be inaccessible to everyone.
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Speaker 2: I won't be accessible to anyone.
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Speaker 1: And as time goes by and as people become more
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Speaker 1: and more successful, the temptation, I think, probably among men
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Speaker 1: more than women, is to become so autonomous that I
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Speaker 1: don't want to commit my time to anyone. And that's
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Speaker 1: a problem as well. So on one extreme, you're a
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Speaker 1: person is so thin they can't get things done. On
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Speaker 1: the other hand, they become so inaccessible because they can't
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Speaker 1: be as accessible as they used to be. That it
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Speaker 1: creates a different kind of problems. So somewhere in the middle,
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Speaker 1: leaders have to manage through this constant tension. It does
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Speaker 1: not go away. This is one of those problems that
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Speaker 1: is never solved. It is attention to manage, trying to
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Speaker 1: decide who gets my time and how much of the
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Speaker 1: time do.
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Speaker 3: They get, Andy, When I've heard you talk about this,
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Speaker 3: I've heard you address that part of this is really
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Speaker 3: an awareness issue.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, especially for those of us in ministry.
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Speaker 1: You know, in the old days, we just weren't aware
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Speaker 1: of what was happening in every country in the world.
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Speaker 1: Every natural disaster, every heart attack, every person who you
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Speaker 1: know finds out they have cancer, every family crisis. For
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Speaker 1: people in ministry who are listening, I mean, we are
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Speaker 1: so bombarded with tragedy and so bombarded with her Then we,
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Speaker 1: you know, open up our web browsers and read CNN
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Speaker 1: or Fox News or whatever about every abused child. You know,
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Speaker 1: it just goes on and on and on, and so
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Speaker 1: we're so bombarded with information, we're so bombarded with need,
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Speaker 1: and there's something in all of us or most of us,
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Speaker 1: that wants to fix the wants to meet all those needs,
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Speaker 1: and it's absolutely impossible. So again, I'm either going to
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Speaker 1: be stretched so thin that I'm no use to anyone,
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Speaker 1: or I'm just going to retreat and say, well, since
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Speaker 1: I can't fix all of it, I'm not even going
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Speaker 1: to try to be involved in any of it.
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Speaker 3: Well, Andy, that's obviously true in our case, but that's
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Speaker 3: true in the marketplace as well.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: I mean marketplace leaders that think about it is they're
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Speaker 1: aware of what's going on in every market all over
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Speaker 1: the world twenty four to seven, how it impacts their industry,
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Speaker 1: how it might impact their industry. Suddenly you have to
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Speaker 1: give your attention to not three or four things, but
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Speaker 1: to a dozen things. You know, what's going on with
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Speaker 1: your competitors, which you know that's helpful information, but it
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Speaker 1: also brings complexity to the decision making model.
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Speaker 2: And again we.
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Speaker 1: Get stretched so thin that at some point we have
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Speaker 1: to back up and ask ourselves not only the question
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Speaker 1: of who am I going to be accessible to, but
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Speaker 1: what sources of information do I want to remain accessible to? Otherwise,
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Speaker 1: you know, again, we'll just retreat and hibernate, or we'll
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Speaker 1: be stretched so thin that we're really of very little
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Speaker 1: use to anyone.
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Speaker 3: So Andy, as I hear you talking about this, it
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Speaker 3: seems that we're with one of two extremes. You can
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Speaker 3: either shut it all out or we can just take
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Speaker 3: it all on.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and neither one of those works. If you take
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Speaker 1: it all on again, you're going to be very little
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Speaker 1: use to anyone. But at the same time, if you
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Speaker 1: were going to stay engaged in our organizations, stay engaged
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Speaker 1: in decision making, we can't afford to shut it all out.
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Speaker 3: And Andy, finding a way to manage that tension led
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Speaker 3: you to a phrase that's become part of our culture
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Speaker 3: here at North Point, and that's do for one what
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Speaker 3: you wish you could do for everyone.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we say that around here all the time. I
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Speaker 1: can't afford to disengage, but I can't afford to be
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Speaker 1: engaged with everyone. So do for one when you can
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Speaker 1: what you wish you could do for everyone. It's symbolic leadership,
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Speaker 1: and it's very, very powerful, and as we've seen, and
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Speaker 1: as we've talked about a year ago, it trickles down
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Speaker 1: through the whole organization.
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Speaker 3: Andy, one of the reasons you say that so many
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Speaker 3: of us avoid this as leaders is this tension we
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Speaker 3: feel to be fair.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, fairness is such a difficult thing. I don't even
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Speaker 1: try to be fair anymore. And that may sound terrible
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Speaker 1: coming from a pastor, but you know, we tell our
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Speaker 1: kids all the time, life isn't fair. And I've found
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Speaker 1: not only is life not fair, trying to be fair
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Speaker 1: generally leads to me to be disengaged. You know, growing up,
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Speaker 1: we heard this all the time. You know, if I
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Speaker 1: do this for you, I'll have to do it for everyone.
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Speaker 1: And I think we've adopted that into our adult world
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Speaker 1: and so consequently, if we can't do for everyone, we
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Speaker 1: do for no one. But even as kids, we knew
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Speaker 1: that there was a fallacy because if adults or parents
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Speaker 1: would say, well, if I give you a cookie, I
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Speaker 1: have to give everybody a cookie, and we were thinking, no,
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Speaker 1: you don't.
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Speaker 2: You can just give me a cookie. I won't tell,
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Speaker 2: you won't tell. You know, everything's good.
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Speaker 1: So I think we should just abandon that whole way
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Speaker 1: of thinking that it should never be well, since I
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Speaker 1: can't do for everyone, I'm going to do for no one.
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Speaker 1: We should actually turn it around and say, well, I'm
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Speaker 1: going to do for one what I wish I could
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Speaker 1: do for everyone.
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Speaker 2: And is that fair?
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Speaker 1: No, it's not fair, But it forces me and it
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Speaker 1: allows me to stay engaged with someone even if I
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Speaker 1: can't be engaged with everyone. So it keeps us from
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Speaker 1: retreating to that I'm not going to do anything, and
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Speaker 1: it keeps us from feeling like we have to do
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Speaker 1: for everyone. Since we did for one, so it's due
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Speaker 1: for one what you wish you could do for everyone.
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Speaker 1: Don't try to be fair. Just make sure you're engaged.
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Speaker 3: So Andie, how does that look in your world?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is hard for pastors, especially because as you know,
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Speaker 1: as pastors, we're supposed to be all things to all people,
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Speaker 1: and we don't like to tell people know, and we
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Speaker 1: don't like to tell people we can't meet with you ever,
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Speaker 1: you know, and so you know, when it comes to
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Speaker 1: the typical pastoral responsibilities, I can't do every wedding, I
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Speaker 1: can't do every funeral. I can't baptize everyone's child. I
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Speaker 1: can't baptize everybody that wants to be baptized. So I
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Speaker 1: can decide, well, I'm not going to baptize anybody. I'm
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Speaker 1: not gonna do any weddings. I'm not gonna do any funerals. Well,
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Speaker 1: that's to totally disengage. So I tell our staff all
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Speaker 1: the time. Just make sure you're engaged in ministry. Don't
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Speaker 1: feel like you have to do all the premarital counseling.
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Speaker 1: But hey, every once in a while take on a
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Speaker 1: couple and do their premieral counseling. You can't do every funeral,
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Speaker 1: but don't disengage from funerals. You can't do every wedding,
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Speaker 1: so make sure every once in a while you allow
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Speaker 1: somebody to schedule put us, you know, put a wedding
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Speaker 1: on you on your calendar. And again, as we've done that,
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Speaker 1: it basically releases ministry. We continue to model what we
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Speaker 1: want to model, We continue to practice what we preach,
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Speaker 1: but it keeps us from becoming so thin that again
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Speaker 1: we can't give a great deal of ourselves to anyone.
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Speaker 1: And so that's what I've tried to do. That's what
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Speaker 1: I've tried to model, and you know, I found that
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Speaker 1: it works.
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Speaker 2: As a leader.
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Speaker 1: Every once in a while, I'll see a young leader
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Speaker 1: in our organization. I think, while here, she has a
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Speaker 1: lot of potential. But they're not a direct report. They're
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Speaker 1: not in my division, in my department. So the temptation
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Speaker 1: is well, since they don't report directly to me, since
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Speaker 1: they report to someone else, I hope they get developed
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Speaker 1: and I hope it all works out. And if I
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Speaker 1: give them special time and attention, then don't I need
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Speaker 1: to give a special time and attention to all the
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Speaker 1: young leaders? And so you know, again you can disengage
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Speaker 1: even from leadership development because of the same way of thinking.
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Speaker 1: So I've just ignored all that, and when I, you know,
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Speaker 1: see a young leader, I've developed a way to get
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Speaker 1: them involved in a group. I don't try to be fair.
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Speaker 1: I have hurt people's feelings. I have leaders ask me, hey, Andy,
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Speaker 1: I would like to be in your group, and I
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Speaker 1: just tell them, well, you know, this isn't a good
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Speaker 1: time for that. Or I'll even say well I handpicked
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Speaker 1: those leaders and I'm sorry. But again, which way do
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Speaker 1: I go? Do I involve all of them and end
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Speaker 1: up spending less time, you know, with more people, or
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Speaker 1: do I spend more time with fewer people. And great
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Speaker 1: leadership development always happens when you spend more time with
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Speaker 1: few people, and leaders are generally pretty good at picking
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Speaker 1: out the leaders in the organization. So again, I would
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Speaker 1: rather be engaged with the people I need to be
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Speaker 1: engaged with than disengaged in an attempt to be fair
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Speaker 1: or engaged with everyone and accomplish you know, virtually very little.
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Speaker 1: So there are huge ramifications for this principle. Do for one,
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Speaker 1: what you wish you could do for everyone. Don't try
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Speaker 1: to be fair, just make sure you stay engaged.
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Speaker 3: Andy, you have three just very practical tips on what
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Speaker 3: this looks like.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I again, because you know, do for one what
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Speaker 1: you wish you could do for everyone. You know, what
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Speaker 1: does that look like? So here's here's three things to
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Speaker 1: kind of give some direction. Number one, go deep rather
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Speaker 1: than wide, Go deep rather than wide. And this is
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Speaker 1: what I was alluding to when I was talking about
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Speaker 1: leadership development.
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Speaker 2: Go deep rather than wide, says.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to pick a handful of people and I'm
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Speaker 1: going to go deep with them, rather than spread myself
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Speaker 1: thin and just give a little bit of myself to
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Speaker 1: a whole lot of people. Now, this has to do
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Speaker 1: with subsets of leadership team, subsets of management teams. You know,
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Speaker 1: I have fifteen people on my leadership team, but there's
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Speaker 1: three or four of those individuals that I you know,
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Speaker 1: I just go deeper with. I have a group of
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Speaker 1: young leaders that I meet with every other Thursday morning
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Speaker 1: that I just handpicked from throughout the organization. You can't
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Speaker 1: sign up for it. It's not a list I'm working through.
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Speaker 1: I just hand picked them, and I'm trying to go
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Speaker 1: deep with these guys. And there are a lot of
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Speaker 1: people who won't ever be in that group, and it's
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Speaker 1: not fair, as I said, but I'm very, very engaged.
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Speaker 1: So when possible, go deep rather than why The second
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Speaker 1: one is to go long term rather than short term.
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Speaker 1: I could you know, I could spend you know, thirty
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Speaker 1: minutes with one hundred people and there's nothing to show
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Speaker 1: for that. There's just not And so you know, giving
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Speaker 1: more of my time to fewer people and going long term.
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Speaker 1: So again my example with this group, I told this
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Speaker 1: group of our next generation leaders, hey, I want to
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Speaker 1: meet for a year. This isn't three times. We're not
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Speaker 1: going through a career. I really want to go long
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Speaker 1: term rather than short term. I say to our pastors,
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Speaker 1: if you're going to get involved with a couple that's
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Speaker 1: struggling in their marriage, commit a year. Don't don't just
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Speaker 1: meet with them three times and pat yourself on the
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Speaker 1: back and say, well I did some marriage counseling. Come on,
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Speaker 1: you know you don't fix a marriage with three thirty
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Speaker 1: minute or hour sessions. If you're going to help a
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Speaker 1: couple grapple with the real issues of marriage or parenting,
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Speaker 1: that's a long term commitment. And I can't make a
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Speaker 1: long term commitment to eight couples, but I can make
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Speaker 1: a long term commitment to one couple. So again there
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Speaker 1: are multiple applications, but at the end of the day,
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Speaker 1: you know, go long term rather than short term. And
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Speaker 1: then the third one, you know, is very context specific,
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Speaker 1: and that is go time, not just money. It's tempting
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Speaker 1: to just write a check to a charity, it's tempting
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Speaker 1: to write a check to a couple in need or
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Speaker 1: an individual in need. And I say, look, you know,
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Speaker 1: give your money wherever you want to give your money,
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Speaker 1: but in one of you know, pick a charity, pick
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Speaker 1: an organization, pick a family, and don't just give them money,
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Speaker 1: give them your time. Again, you, for one, what you
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Speaker 1: wish you could do for everyone? Don't you wish everybody
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Speaker 1: could volunteer there? Don't you wish everybody could give time
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Speaker 1: to a struggling family, or a struggling kid, or a
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Speaker 1: you know, a young man or a young woman from
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Speaker 1: a difficult that has a difficult home life. So don't
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Speaker 1: just give time, I mean, excuse me. Don't just give
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Speaker 1: money when it's appropriate, when it's possible, give time. And
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Speaker 1: so when a leader models those three things what we've
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Speaker 1: seen here, it gives people permission to say no. It
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Speaker 1: gives people permission to avoid disengaging or on the other extreme,
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Speaker 1: engaging with everyone. And as everyone in an organization embraces
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Speaker 1: this value, the impact is phenomenal because again, it moves
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Speaker 1: us away from fairness, it moves us into engagement, and
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Speaker 1: it's an engagement that change actually takes place. And then
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Speaker 1: it allows me, going back to our introduction for this
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Speaker 1: entire podcast, it allows me to decide who gets my
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Speaker 1: time and I don't have to apologize for that. It
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Speaker 1: allows me to say to people that used to get
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Speaker 1: a lot of my time, you're not going to get
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Speaker 1: this much time anymore because I need to do for
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Speaker 1: one what I wish I could do for everyone. And
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Speaker 1: the landscape has changed, the organization has changed, and again
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Speaker 1: this becomes a value that's so much a part of
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Speaker 1: the conversation, so much a part of the culture in
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Speaker 1: an organization that everyone benefits.
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Speaker 3: Ultimately, Andy, I know there's a story from your dad's
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Speaker 3: life actually that illustrates this do for one idea. Tell
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Speaker 3: us that story.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love this, and I remember when my
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Speaker 1: dad told me this years ago. This is one of
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Speaker 1: those stories that every once in a while, when on
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Speaker 1: with a group, I'll say, Dad, tell him, you know,
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Speaker 1: tell them that story. This is one of those. My
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Speaker 1: dad had just finished high school. He felt like that
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Speaker 1: God wanted him to be a preacher. He felt called
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Speaker 1: to preach. His single mom, she worked in a textile mill.
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Speaker 2: They had.
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Speaker 1: When I say they had no money, they had no money,
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Speaker 1: I mean he grew up very, very poor. He delivered newspapers.
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Speaker 1: That was where his money came from. And he took
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Speaker 1: some of that money and helped he and his mom,
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Speaker 1: you know, live and eat and live indoors, you know.
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Speaker 1: And so one evening he was standing out out of
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Speaker 1: his church, he says, undersneath the street light, the way
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Speaker 1: he paints the picture, you can see it. And he
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Speaker 1: was talking to a friend of his, a guy named
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Speaker 1: Julian Phillips.
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Speaker 2: And this was an adult.
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Speaker 1: My dad had just graduated from high school or was
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Speaker 1: about to. He's talking to this man, Julian Phillips, and
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Speaker 1: he was telling him that he felt called to preach,
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Speaker 1: and he wanted to go to college, but he didn't
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Speaker 1: have any money and he didn't think he'd ever be
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Speaker 1: able to go to college. And while they were talking,
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Speaker 1: the pastor of the church walked out, walked across the street.
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Speaker 1: My dad says his name was Reverend Hammock. He still remembers.
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Speaker 1: Walked across the street and this Julian guy called the
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Speaker 1: pastor over and said, Reverend Hammock, Charles, that's my dad.
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Speaker 1: Charles feels like maybe God's calling him to preach and
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Speaker 1: he wants to go to college. Do you think we
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Speaker 1: could help him out? And so Reverend Hammick said, hey, Charles,
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Speaker 1: I want you to come see me next week. And so,
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Speaker 1: sure enough, my dad went in to see his pastor
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Speaker 1: and Reverend Hammick said, you know what, tell me your stories.
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Speaker 1: And my dad said, I you know, I want to
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Speaker 1: go to college. I feel like God's calling me to ministry.
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Speaker 1: And this Reverend Hammick said, well, let me see what
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Speaker 1: I can do. My dad leaves, time goes by, he
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Speaker 1: graduates from high School's head into that summer between high
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Speaker 1: school and college with no plans, he said. He said,
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Speaker 1: about two months went by and he got a call
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Speaker 1: from Reverend Hammock and he said, Charles, I've worked it
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Speaker 1: out for you to go to the University of Richmond
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Speaker 1: on a four year scholarship. How does that sound, well,
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Speaker 1: my dad said, this sounded wonderful, and my dad says,
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Speaker 1: I think I showed up at college with like twenty
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Speaker 1: seven dollars in my pocket and that was it. Now,
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Speaker 1: the point of the story is, you know how many
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Speaker 1: scholarships could Reverend Hammock work out for guys that feel
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Speaker 1: like they might feel called to ministry.
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Speaker 2: Not many.
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Speaker 1: And it would have been so easy to say, well,
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Speaker 1: you know, I can't send all of our high school
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Speaker 1: graduates to college. I can't send every kid who feels
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Speaker 1: like God wants them to preach to colle Mean, I
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Speaker 1: can't do it for everyone, but here's a guy who understood,
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Speaker 1: you know what. I can't do it for everyone, but
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Speaker 1: I can do it for this one kid.
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Speaker 2: And oh my gosh. You know, truth is, I probably
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Speaker 2: wouldn't have been born.
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Speaker 1: You know, based on when my dad and mom met,
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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you know, think about the trajectory
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Speaker 1: of his entire life, which change in the lives of
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Speaker 1: untold numbers of people, because one pastor decided, you know what,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to go deep, I'm going to go long,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to go time, and I'm gonna go money
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Speaker 1: and do whatever I can to help this one high
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Speaker 1: school graduate get into college. Now I imagine you know, some
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Speaker 1: of our podcast listeners they're thinking of their own story
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Speaker 1: or their parents' story. I mean, we see this multiplied
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Speaker 1: over and over and over. So the challenge for us
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Speaker 1: is not to get caught up and trying to be fair,
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Speaker 1: not to get caught up and trying to do for everyone,
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Speaker 1: and not retreat to doing for no one, but to
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Speaker 1: ask the question, Hey, what would our world look like,
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Speaker 1: what my organization look like if I did for one
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Speaker 1: what I wish I could do for everyone. And maybe
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Speaker 1: this sounds a bit grandiose, but I think if everyone
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Speaker 1: did for one what they wish they could do for everyone,
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Speaker 1: ultimately that could impact the entire world.
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