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- 0:03Speaker 1: The third Tuesday of April, a bird watcher named Stanley
- 0:07Speaker 1: Webber stepped off the gravel path near Palliser Reservoir and
- 0:11Speaker 1: crouched toward a drainage culvert. He was tracking a yellow warbler.
- 0:16Speaker 1: What he pulled out of the culvert instead was a
- 0:19Speaker 1: wine red zippered accordion folder, wrapped in plastic sheeting and
- 0:23Speaker 1: sealed with an elastic band. Inside it was the signed
- 0:27Speaker 1: deed to a man's house and a handwritten note that
- 0:30Speaker 1: read he agreed to everything. He just doesn't remember agree.
- 0:35Speaker 1: That note was not a confession, It was something more
- 0:38Speaker 1: calculated than that. The folder had been hidden there since
- 0:42Speaker 1: mid February, roughly ten weeks, in a culvert forty yards
- 0:46Speaker 1: off the path, while the man whose deed sat inside
- 0:49Speaker 1: it was living in a motel room with eleven dollars
- 0:52Speaker 1: in his bank account. Fourteen months earlier, that same account
- 0:56Speaker 1: held two hundred thirty thousand dollars. There is something about
- 0:59Speaker 1: that single line he just doesn't remember agreeing that stops
- 1:04Speaker 1: the mind cold, not because it admits wrongdoing, but because
- 1:08Speaker 1: it doesn't have to. Whoever wrote it understood something precise
- 1:12Speaker 1: that dismantling a person's reality doesn't require force. It requires patience, proximity,
- 1:19Speaker 1: and the slow, invisible replacement of one man's judgment with
- 1:24Speaker 1: another man's decisions. This is the story of how that
- 1:27Speaker 1: happened to Larry Crawford, forty eight years old, parts procurement coordinator, Marsden, Indiana,
- 1:34Speaker 1: and how a bird watcher, a forensic accountant, and one
- 1:38Speaker 1: detective pulled it back into the light. Larry Crawford was
- 1:41Speaker 1: not a man anyone would describe as vulnerable. That matters,
- 1:46Speaker 1: because the word vulnerable carries an image someone already weakened,
- 1:51Speaker 1: already isolated, already losing ground. Larry was none of those things.
- 1:55Speaker 1: When Marvin Foster walked into his life. Larry had spent
- 1:59Speaker 1: seven eighteen years at Vermont's Supply coordinating parts procurement with
- 2:05Speaker 1: the kind of quiet competence that makes a workplace run.
- 2:09Speaker 1: His supervisor held his position without question when things later
- 2:13Speaker 1: fell apart. That is not the record of someone who
- 2:16Speaker 1: had been slipping. His divorce from Sharon Polk had been,
- 2:19Speaker 1: by all accounts, amicable. Their daughter Nina nineteen at the
- 2:25Speaker 1: time these events began, remained close to him. He had structure,
- 2:30Speaker 1: He had relationships, He had a house at four fourteen
- 2:33Speaker 1: copper line drive that he had owned outright, and every Thursday,
- 2:37Speaker 1: without exception, Larry drove to Marsden, Oakes to visit his uncle,
- 2:41Speaker 1: Jean Crawford eighty one years old, a retired electrician in
- 2:45Speaker 1: the early stages of dementia. Those visits were not obligatory,
- 2:49Speaker 1: nobody required them. Larry made them because Jean was family
- 2:54Speaker 1: and because Larry was the kind of person who showed
- 2:57Speaker 1: up that Thursday visit is worth holding on to. It
- 3:01Speaker 1: will matter later. Marvin Foster was fifty three, originally from
- 3:05Speaker 1: the Columbus area, who had relocated to Marsden approximately two
- 3:09Speaker 1: and a half years before these events. He was introduced
- 3:12Speaker 1: to Larry at a cookout hosted by a mutual acquaintance
- 3:15Speaker 1: named Doug Petrie in late June. Nothing about that introduction
- 3:19Speaker 1: was unusual. Cookouts happen, people meet. What happened in the
- 3:24Speaker 1: three weeks after that meeting is where the architecture of
- 3:28Speaker 1: this case begins. Within three weeks of the Petrie cookout,
- 3:32Speaker 1: Foster had become a daily presence in Larry's life, daily texts,
- 3:36Speaker 1: offers of help, small gestures that required nothing back. He
- 3:41Speaker 1: assisted with a car repair he was simply there consistently
- 3:45Speaker 1: in the way that people who are genuinely good friends
- 3:49Speaker 1: tend to be. Larry gave him a house key. By
- 3:53Speaker 1: his own later account, it felt like his own idea
- 3:57Speaker 1: to do so. That phrase felt like his own idea
- 4:01Speaker 1: is the engine of everything that follows. By August and
- 4:05Speaker 1: into September, Foster was helping manage logistics in Larry's life.
- 4:10Speaker 1: In that same period, Larry signed a durable power of attorney.
- 4:15Speaker 1: The signing was notarized by a mobile notary named Denise Fulton.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Fulton would later note that during the appointment, Foster answered
- 4:24Speaker 1: several of her questions on Larry's behalf before Larry had
- 4:28Speaker 1: the chance to speak. She described it as slightly odd.
- 4:32Speaker 1: She did not flag it for action. One detail at
- 4:35Speaker 1: a signing noted filed away and left there. By October
- 4:40Speaker 1: and November, Foster was managing Larry's finances directly, and at
- 4:45Speaker 1: some point in that same period, Larry stopped making his
- 4:48Speaker 1: Thursday visits to Gene Crawford at Marsden Oaks. The reason
- 4:53Speaker 1: he stopped, he would later learn, was that Marvin Foster
- 4:58Speaker 1: had told him the staff at Marsden Oak Oakes said
- 5:01Speaker 1: the visits were distressing to Gene. The staff had said
- 5:04Speaker 1: no such thing. That conversation never happened, but Larry believed
- 5:09Speaker 1: it because Foster had given him no reason not too,
- 5:13Speaker 1: because in fourteen months, Foster had constructed something precise, a
- 5:18Speaker 1: version of Larry's life, narrated entirely by someone else, in
- 5:23Speaker 1: which every significant decision felt like it had originated with
- 5:26Speaker 1: Larry himself. By January, Larry Crawford had no house, no job,
- 5:32Speaker 1: and eleven dollars. He was living in a motel room
- 5:35Speaker 1: with Marvin Foster, who controlled the remaining cash. The accordion
- 5:40Speaker 1: folder was already hidden in the culvert by then, waiting
- 5:43Speaker 1: for a bird watcher who wasn't looking for it. The
- 5:46Speaker 1: accordion folder sat in a culvert at Palliser Reservoir for
- 5:50Speaker 1: roughly ten weeks before Stanley Webber found it. Weber was
- 5:55Speaker 1: tracking a yellow warbler. The folder was wine red, zippered,
- 5:59Speaker 1: wrapped in plastic sheeting, wedged into the drainage channel, about
- 6:03Speaker 1: forty yards off the gravel path. He almost walked past it,
- 6:07Speaker 1: he didn't inside. Assigned deed for a house at four
- 6:12Speaker 1: fourteen Copper Line Drive, Marsden, Indiana. A durable power of
- 6:17Speaker 1: attorney and a handwritten note on a Crawford's supply notepad.
- 6:21Speaker 1: The handwriting later matched to Marvin Foster seven words that
- 6:25Speaker 1: should not exist. He agreed to everything. He just doesn't
- 6:29Speaker 1: remember agreeing. That note is where everything in this case pivots.
- 6:34Speaker 1: But to understand what it actually means, you have to
- 6:38Speaker 1: go back to the house. The sale of four fourteen
- 6:41Speaker 1: copper line drive closed fourteen months before Webber found that folder.
- 6:47Speaker 1: The selling price was two hundred twelve thousand dollars. The
- 6:51Speaker 1: average comparable sale in that neighborhood at the time was
- 6:54Speaker 1: two hundred sixty eight thousand dollars. That is a fifty
- 6:58Speaker 1: six thousand dollars gap. Gaps that large do not happen
- 7:01Speaker 1: in arm's length transactions between strangers who each have a lawyer.
- 7:05Speaker 1: They happen when someone on one side of the table
- 7:09Speaker 1: controls both sides of the table. The buyer was a
- 7:12Speaker 1: limited liability company. Tracing that LLC required working through three
- 7:17Speaker 1: registered agent layers. At the end of those layers, investigators
- 7:21Speaker 1: found an incorporation filing from four months before the sale,
- 7:25Speaker 1: submitted by a man using a variant of Marvin Foster's
- 7:28Speaker 1: middle name. Foster had sold Larry Crawford's house to his
- 7:32Speaker 1: own company at fifty six thousand dollars below market. He
- 7:36Speaker 1: then resold the property roughly two months later at full
- 7:39Speaker 1: market value to an unrelated third party buyer. The profit
- 7:44Speaker 1: on that second sale alone was substantial, and the deed,
- 7:47Speaker 1: the original signed deed naming Lawrence R. Crawford as seller,
- 7:52Speaker 1: was not in a filing cabinet or a bank safe.
- 7:54Speaker 1: It was in a culvert, hidden but not destroyed. That
- 7:58Speaker 1: choice is the first Anemily Worth holding Foster knew Palliser reservoir.
- 8:03Speaker 1: A neighbor confirmed he walked that path on mornings. He
- 8:07Speaker 1: had months between the sale and the folder's discovery to
- 8:10Speaker 1: shred the document or burn it. He chose instead to
- 8:13Speaker 1: seal it in plastic and hide it forty yards off
- 8:16Speaker 1: a gravel track. The deed was incriminating. Keeping it was
- 8:20Speaker 1: a risk, and yet he kept it. The second thing
- 8:23Speaker 1: in that folder is the power of attorney. The notary
- 8:26Speaker 1: who witnessed the signing. Denise Fulton worked as a mobile notary.
- 8:31Speaker 1: Her job was to confirm that the person's signing understood
- 8:34Speaker 1: what they were signing and was doing so voluntarily. She
- 8:38Speaker 1: would later recall that During the appointment, Foster answered several
- 8:41Speaker 1: of her questions directed at Larry. Before Larry could respond,
- 8:45Speaker 1: she noted it she used the phrase slightly odd. She
- 8:49Speaker 1: did not flag it for action because there was no
- 8:52Speaker 1: single thing she could point to that crossed a clear line.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Just a man answering for another man, slightly faster than
- 8:59Speaker 1: he should have. One moment, one phrase, and then the
- 9:02Speaker 1: appointment continued. The third thing in the folder is the note,
- 9:06Speaker 1: and this is where the forensic accountant, Judith Whittaker, drew
- 9:10Speaker 1: a conclusion that reframes the entire case, the obvious reading
- 9:14Speaker 1: of he agreed to everything, he just doesn't remember agreeing
- 9:18Speaker 1: his confession. Foster wrote it, Foster kept it. It proves
- 9:22Speaker 1: he knew the consent was compromised. But Whittaker's conclusion, presented
- 9:27Speaker 1: at trial, was more specific and more unsettling than that.
- 9:31Speaker 1: What if the note was not a confession? She argued.
- 9:34Speaker 1: The note was not a confession and not a threat.
- 9:37Speaker 1: It was a rehearsal. Foster was practicing the exact sentence
- 9:41Speaker 1: he would use if any one ever challenged him. Not
- 9:44Speaker 1: a private admission of guilt, a prepared performance of innocence
- 9:48Speaker 1: written in advance of being accused. He was not documenting
- 9:52Speaker 1: what he had done. He was building the story he
- 9:55Speaker 1: would tell about what Larry had chosen to do. By
- 9:59Speaker 1: the morning of the third Tuesday of April, Tipton had
- 10:02Speaker 1: the folder on her desk by noon. By the following morning,
- 10:05Speaker 1: she was standing in a motel room on the east
- 10:08Speaker 1: side of Marsden, Room twelve or thereabouts. Larry Crawford's checking
- 10:13Speaker 1: account showed a balance of eleven dollars. Fourteen months earlier,
- 10:18Speaker 1: it had held two hundred thirty thousand dollars. Larry did
- 10:21Speaker 1: not appear confused. That matters, and it is worth being
- 10:25Speaker 1: precise about He knew exactly where he was. He knew
- 10:29Speaker 1: what had happened. The confusion, the state in which a
- 10:32Speaker 1: man does not recognize that his decisions are being made
- 10:36Speaker 1: for him, was already over. What Tipton found in that
- 10:39Speaker 1: motel room was not a man lost in someone else's narrative.
- 10:44Speaker 1: It was a man who had found his way back
- 10:46Speaker 1: out of it and was sitting in the wreckage, exhausted, devastated,
- 10:50Speaker 1: completely clear. He had no house. He had lost the
- 10:54Speaker 1: job at Vermont's Supply the previous December, after his supervisor
- 10:58Speaker 1: received a call from a man identifying himself as Larry's physician,
- 11:02Speaker 1: stating that Larry would not be returning. Larry knew nothing
- 11:06Speaker 1: about the call until after it happened. By then, a
- 11:10Speaker 1: confirming e mail had been composed on Larry's laptop and
- 11:13Speaker 1: sent from Larry's account while Larry was in the shower.
- 11:17Speaker 1: He had not resigned. He had been erased from his
- 11:19Speaker 1: own employment without lifting a finger or forming the intention.
- 11:23Speaker 1: This is the specific mechanism that the case turns on,
- 11:26Speaker 1: and it is worth sitting with for a moment. Psychological
- 11:30Speaker 1: manipulation of this kind does not announce itself. There is
- 11:34Speaker 1: no single day on which a person wakes up and
- 11:37Speaker 1: realizes they are no longer directing their own life. The
- 11:41Speaker 1: process is incremental. A favor, a key, a form signed
- 11:46Speaker 1: at a table where someone else speaks first, a phone
- 11:50Speaker 1: call made while you are in another room. Each individual
- 11:54Speaker 1: moment carries a plausible explanation. The cumulative effect is a
- 11:58Speaker 1: man who has been realifed, located out of his home,
- 12:02Speaker 1: his job, his savings, his weekly visits to the uncle
- 12:06Speaker 1: he cared for, and who cannot point to any single
- 12:09Speaker 1: moment when he said no and was overruled because he
- 12:12Speaker 1: was never asked. The technique has a name in psychological literature.
- 12:17Speaker 1: Researchers who study coercive control describe it as manufactured consent,
- 12:21Speaker 1: a process in which the subject's agreement is genuine in
- 12:24Speaker 1: form and hollow in substance because the conditions that produce
- 12:28Speaker 1: it have been engineered. Foster's handwritten note suggests he understood
- 12:33Speaker 1: this distinction precisely. He was not confused about whether Larry
- 12:37Speaker 1: had consented. He was rehearsing a defense rooted in the
- 12:41Speaker 1: technical truth that Larry had. When Tipton left that motel room,
- 12:46Speaker 1: she had a folder of physical evidence and a living
- 12:48Speaker 1: witness who could tell her what had happened from the inside.
- 12:52Speaker 1: What she did not yet have was a pattern. One
- 12:55Speaker 1: victim is one case. What changes everything is what came
- 13:00Speaker 1: before the arrest. What if this was not an isolated case.
- 13:04Speaker 1: Picture Marvin Foster at the bus station in Evansville, Indiana,
- 13:09Speaker 1: on the first Wednesday of May. He has a back.
- 13:12Speaker 1: Inside the back is a prepaid debit card loaded with
- 13:15Speaker 1: four thousand dollars traceable to Larry Crawford's accounts. He is
- 13:20Speaker 1: not rushing. There is no indication he believes the folder
- 13:24Speaker 1: has been found there is no indication he knows Tipton
- 13:27Speaker 1: has spoken to Larry. He is, by every available signal,
- 13:31Speaker 1: a man who believes the exit is working. He is
- 13:34Speaker 1: arrested there. He does not run. At trial, Foster's testimony
- 13:39Speaker 1: was consistent and specific. Larry was a willing participant. The
- 13:44Speaker 1: house sale was Larry's idea. The power of attorney was
- 13:48Speaker 1: Larry's suggestion. Every major decision Foster testified originated with the
- 13:53Speaker 1: man who was now sitting on the other side of
- 13:55Speaker 1: the courtroom with eleven dollars in his account. That framing
- 13:58Speaker 1: he agreed to everything, he just doesn't remember agreeing was
- 14:02Speaker 1: not improvised. It had been written and rehearsed. The jury
- 14:07Speaker 1: heard it in the court room, and they had already
- 14:09Speaker 1: heard it in the evidence because Whittaker had read the
- 14:12Speaker 1: note aloud. Now consider what the defense version of this
- 14:15Speaker 1: story requires. It requires believing that Larry Crawford independently decided
- 14:21Speaker 1: to sell his house at fifty six thousand dollars below
- 14:24Speaker 1: its neighborhood value. It requires believing that the buyer, an
- 14:28Speaker 1: LC incorporating four months before the sale, registered under a
- 14:33Speaker 1: variant of Foster's middle name, was a coincidence Larry had
- 14:37Speaker 1: no reason to question. It requires believing that Larry chose
- 14:41Speaker 1: not to visit his eighty one year old uncle with
- 14:44Speaker 1: early stage dementia for months based on a concern about
- 14:48Speaker 1: the visits being distressing, and never once called Marsden Oakes
- 14:52Speaker 1: to confirm it. The staff at Marsden Oakes confirmed what
- 14:55Speaker 1: Larry had eventually come to understand. No such conversation had
- 14:59Speaker 1: taken in place. No one had told Foster or Larry
- 15:03Speaker 1: that the visits were unwelcome. Foster had constructed that fact
- 15:07Speaker 1: and handed it to Larry as information. But there is
- 15:11Speaker 1: a version of events that actually accounts for the folder
- 15:14Speaker 1: being hidden in a culvert rather than destroyed. Walk through it.
- 15:17Speaker 1: From Foster's position, he kept the deed because he believed
- 15:21Speaker 1: he might need it, not as incriminating evidence against himself,
- 15:25Speaker 1: as proof that a transaction had occurred legitimately with Larry's
- 15:30Speaker 1: signature on it. The folder was his insurance policy against
- 15:33Speaker 1: a claim that the sale had been forged. If Larry
- 15:36Speaker 1: ever said he hadn't signed anything, Foster had the original
- 15:40Speaker 1: in a place only Foster knew to look. The note
- 15:43Speaker 1: was the same logic applied to consent, not a confession
- 15:47Speaker 1: a prepared rebuttal that version of the folder collapses the
- 15:51Speaker 1: moment you account for Pam Strickland. Strickland, forty four years
- 15:55Speaker 1: old from Decatur County, had filed a report before she
- 15:59Speaker 1: ever contacted at Hendrick County. She had lost approximately one
- 16:03Speaker 1: hundred sixty thousand dollars to a man she knew as
- 16:07Speaker 1: Marvin Fowler. The photo she identified matched Foster. The report
- 16:12Speaker 1: in Decatur County had gone nowhere, but when she reached
- 16:15Speaker 1: out to Tipton's office, everything shifted. Strickland's testimony a trial
- 16:20Speaker 1: did not establish that Foster had done the same thing
- 16:22Speaker 1: to Larry. It established that he had done something similar
- 16:26Speaker 1: before to someone else in a different county and under
- 16:30Speaker 1: a different name variant, and that the prior report had
- 16:33Speaker 1: never produced a consequence. The jury deliberated for six hours.
- 16:38Speaker 1: They convicted on all counts. The accordion folder was entered
- 16:42Speaker 1: into evidence and retained. Foster was arrested on the first
- 16:46Speaker 1: Wednesday of May at the bus station in Evansville, Indiana.
- 16:49Speaker 1: He had a bag. Inside the bag was a prepaid
- 16:53Speaker 1: debit card loaded with four thousand dollars traceable to Larry
- 16:57Speaker 1: Crawford's accounts. That was what remained. The charges filed against
- 17:01Speaker 1: him included fraud, theft, and two counts of financial exploitation
- 17:06Speaker 1: of a vulnerable adult, one count related to Larry Crawford
- 17:11Speaker 1: and one related to Pam Strickland, plus two additional counts
- 17:17Speaker 1: connected to the Decatur County matter. At trial, Foster took
- 17:21Speaker 1: the position that nothing had been taken. He testified that
- 17:24Speaker 1: Larry was a willing participant, that the house sale had
- 17:28Speaker 1: been Larry's idea, that the power of attorney had been
- 17:31Speaker 1: Larry's suggestion. He sat in that court room and described
- 17:34Speaker 1: a man who had freely, enthusiastically distampled his own life,
- 17:38Speaker 1: and insisted the only difference between help and exploitation was memory.
- 17:43Speaker 1: Six hours for fourteen months of documentation, for the forensic
- 17:46Speaker 1: accountant's testimony, for the notary's recollection of a man answering
- 17:50Speaker 1: questions before another man could speak, for a folder found
- 17:54Speaker 1: in a drainage culvert forty yards off a gravel path
- 17:58Speaker 1: by a bird watcher who had been looking for a warbler.
- 18:01Speaker 1: There is something specific about that detail that resists easy dismissal.
- 18:06Speaker 1: Foster's defense rested on the claim that Larry had consented
- 18:09Speaker 1: to everything but the folder hidden in the culvert tells
- 18:13Speaker 1: a different story about what Foster believed. You do not
- 18:16Speaker 1: hide documentation of a clean transaction in a drainage ditch.
- 18:20Speaker 1: You file it, you keep it somewhere accessible. You do
- 18:24Speaker 1: not walk it out to a reservoir on a February
- 18:27Speaker 1: morning and tuck it behind a concrete culvert and cover
- 18:30Speaker 1: it in plastic sheeting. That is the behavior of someone
- 18:34Speaker 1: who understood the folder was dangerous. The jury apparently understood
- 18:38Speaker 1: it the same way. Larry Crawford returned to Veramont's supply
- 18:43Speaker 1: after the trial in a reduced capacity. His supervisor had
- 18:46Speaker 1: held the position. The call that had ended his employment,
- 18:51Speaker 1: the call from a man identifying himself as Larry's physician,
- 18:55Speaker 1: had not been made by anyone with authority over Larry's life,
- 19:00Speaker 1: knew that now the position was there. Larry also resumed
- 19:05Speaker 1: his Thursday visits to Jean Crawford at Marsden Oaks. The
- 19:09Speaker 1: visits that Foster had told him were distressing to Jane,
- 19:13Speaker 1: the visits that staff at the facility confirmed had never
- 19:16Speaker 1: been flagged as unwelcome. Larry had stopped going for months
- 19:20Speaker 1: on the word of a man who had constructed the
- 19:22Speaker 1: claim from nothing, he started going again. The accordion folder
- 19:26Speaker 1: was entered into evidence and retained. What Foster built was
- 19:30Speaker 1: not a con in the conventional sense of a lie
- 19:32Speaker 1: told once and believed, it was something more durable. He
- 19:37Speaker 1: constructed an environment in which Larry's own perception became the
- 19:41Speaker 1: mechanism of control. By the time Larry had no house,
- 19:45Speaker 1: no job, and eleven dollars in his account, he was
- 19:49Speaker 1: not confused about what had happened. He was exhausted and devastated,
- 19:54Speaker 1: which is a different thing entirely. Confusion can be corrected
- 19:58Speaker 1: with information. Devastation is what is left after a person
- 20:02Speaker 1: understands exactly what happened to them and has to keep
- 20:05Speaker 1: living inside that understanding. That is the specific cruelty of
- 20:10Speaker 1: this kind of manipulation. It does not leave the victim uncertain.
- 20:15Speaker 1: It leaves them certain and alone with the certainty. The
- 20:18Speaker 1: hand written note he agreed to everything, he just doesn't
- 20:22Speaker 1: remember agreeing was never a confession. Judith Whittaker's analysis was
- 20:27Speaker 1: precise on that point. It was a rehearsal. Foster had
- 20:32Speaker 1: written down the argument he intended to make if he
- 20:35Speaker 1: was ever asked to account for himself. He had practiced
- 20:38Speaker 1: the framing in his own handwriting on a notepad with
- 20:41Speaker 1: Larry's name on it, and then hidden the notepad in
- 20:45Speaker 1: a place he expected never to be found. Stanley Webber
- 20:48Speaker 1: found it on a Tuesday morning in April. He had
- 20:51Speaker 1: been tracking a warbler. Larry Crawford is forty eight years old.
- 20:56Speaker 1: He works at Verremont's Supply in a reduced capacity, and
- 21:00Speaker 1: on Thursdays he visits his uncle Jean at Marsden Oakes.
- 21:04Speaker 1: The visits last about two hours. He has not recovered
- 21:07Speaker 1: the money, the house, or the fourteen months those are gone.
- 21:11Speaker 1: What the conviction returned to him was something harder to name.
- 21:15Speaker 1: The record. A jury, sitting in a room for six hours,
- 21:19Speaker 1: looked at every document, every account statement, every anomaly Whittaker
- 21:23Speaker 1: and Tipton had mapped, and concluded that what happened to
- 21:27Speaker 1: Larry Crawford was not something he chose. That conclusion does
- 21:32Speaker 1: not rebuild what was taken, but it is the difference
- 21:35Speaker 1: between a man who gave everything away and a man
- 21:38Speaker 1: who had everything taken. This show is made by Oboe
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