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Set 2: Raise The Roof (w/ Joel Anderson) · Stugotz and Company

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: Our thanks to Mike Gola Jr. for joining us in
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  Speaker 1: Set 1.
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  Speaker 2: Joel Anderson, the ringer tailgate, he's going to join us
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  Speaker 2: coming up in about 10 minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Taylor has a Stugatz of the Day. What do you
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  Speaker 1: have for us, Taylor?
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  Speaker 3: So the Stugatz of the Day revolves around the Super
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  Speaker 3: Bowl this upcoming year.
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  Speaker 1: What happened there?
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say Super Bowl, but then I
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  Speaker 3: meant to say halftime, so I said super time, and
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  Speaker 3: then I got in my head as I was trying
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  Speaker 3: to correct it in a sentence, and then you kind
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  Speaker 3: of jumped on it and pounced on it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, people have been jumping on me and
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  Speaker 2: pouncing on me for 20 years, and now I have
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  Speaker 2: an opportunity to do.
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  Speaker 1: It to you.
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  Speaker 3: The second I said super time, you smelt the vulnerability
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  Speaker 3: coming through this room.
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  Speaker 1: I sure did. Yep, a mile away, I mean.
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  Speaker 3: So the Stugatz of the day revolves around the Super
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  Speaker 3: Bowl halftime show this upcoming season in L.A. So Jay-Z
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  Speaker 3: is the decision maker for the Super Bowl halftime show.
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  Speaker 3: After his company, Roc Nation, reached an agreement with the
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  Speaker 3: NFL in 2019 that Jay-Z would be the one, on
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  Speaker 3: behalf of Roc Nation, to decide who the talent's going
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  Speaker 3: to be for the Super Bowl. This season... For the
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  Speaker 3: Super Bowl in L.A., Jay-Z has picked, drumroll, himself.
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  Speaker 1: All right. I'm proud of him.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: L.J. Why would you pick anyone else?
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  Speaker 4: I mean.
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  Speaker 3: It makes you wonder if he's had this power since 2019. Right.
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  Speaker 3: What took so long for him to pick himself?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think Jay-Z, or Jay as I like to
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  Speaker 1: call him.
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  Speaker 3: Hova.
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  Speaker 1: LJ. Do you think Jay-Z actually.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think he thought about a different act? Do
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  Speaker 2: you think he considered anyone else? Do you think he
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  Speaker 2: talked to anyone else? Or did Jay-Z know it was
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  Speaker 2: going to be Jay-Z the entire time?
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  Speaker 3: I believe Jay-Z knew it was Jay-Z the entire time.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: But he presented it. He goes into his boardroom at
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  Speaker 3: Roc Nation. Yes. Almost like a college signing day. There's
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  Speaker 3: a Justin Bieber hat. There's a Miley Cyrus hat. And
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  Speaker 3: then there's a Jay-Z hat.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And then everybody's looking at the table and goes, well,
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  Speaker 3: he's not picking the Jay-Z hat. He's Jay-Z.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: It's got to be Bieber. It's got to be Miley Cyrus.
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  Speaker 3: It's got to be somebody from L.A. Right. And then
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  Speaker 3: Jay-Z gets up and he goes, I'm taking my talents.
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  Speaker 3: To Tinseltown.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, he chooses himself. But you're saying he went through
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  Speaker 2: the motions. He really sold it. He actually acted like
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  Speaker 2: he was looking for an act for the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: halftime show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he flew in Bad Bunny, said, we had Bad
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  Speaker 3: Bunny last year, but maybe we get Bad Bunny back.
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  Speaker 3: Bad Bunny's huge. Do we want to invoke Taylor Swift,
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  Speaker 3: play the Taylor Swift card with Travis Kelsey? He presented
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  Speaker 3: it like he was bringing everybody in on official visits,
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  Speaker 3: showing them... you know, showing them the town, rolling out
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  Speaker 3: the red carpets for them. In the back of his mind,
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  Speaker 3: he was like, yeah, I'm choosing myself this entire time.
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  Speaker 2: It reminds me of Joe Bailey, a headhunter that the
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  Speaker 2: Dolphins hired to find.
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  Speaker 1: Their new CEO and GM, I think.
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  Speaker 2: And after an extensive search and many, many interviews, Joe
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  Speaker 2: Bailey decided one day when he woke up and looked
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  Speaker 2: in the mirror that the guy for.
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  Speaker 1: The job was Joe Bailey.
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  Speaker 3: How did it work out for him?
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  Speaker 1: Not well. But he got the job.
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  Speaker 2: He was a headhunter hired to go get someone else,
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  Speaker 2: and the person he hired was himself.
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  Speaker 3: A real tough selection committee.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's Jay-Z. Give me your emotions here, Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: It's weird.
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  Speaker 2: As we tape this, the NBA tips off in about
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  Speaker 2: an hour. It's out at 3 o'clock in the afternoon game.
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  Speaker 2: But we have Knicks and Sixers tonight before we get
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  Speaker 2: to Joel Anderson. Are you going to be emotional tonight
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  Speaker 2: with the Knicks hanging a banner to the rafters at
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  Speaker 2: the Mecca? Jalen Brunson, it's going to be a great night.
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  Speaker 2: The Sixers are in town. LeBron James doesn't have to
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  Speaker 2: leave town. He just goes right to MSG. He lives
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  Speaker 2: in New York City. Will you be emotional tonight? Because
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  Speaker 2: I think I will.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I'll be emotional tonight. Like tears? No,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I could cry over a banner. All
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  Speaker 3: the tears. I used all my tears when they won
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  Speaker 3: the finals. Right, like right after they won. You can't
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  Speaker 3: cry over a piece of cloth.
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  Speaker 1: Put it on the poll.
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  Speaker 2: Can you cry over a piece of cloth?
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  Speaker 3: My biggest question for banner night tonight. Yes. Is the
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  Speaker 3: banner already up and we're doing the reveal down? Or
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  Speaker 3: is the banner starting on the floor and we're pulling
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  Speaker 3: it up? Because I'd rather pull it up.
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  Speaker 1: I think the banner is covered. They reveal it to
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  Speaker 1: the players.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. I think they pull it up.
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  Speaker 1: I do.
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  Speaker 3: From the ground, from the floor.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, a nice touch would be, I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: they're doing. I have no idea.
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  Speaker 2: But you should have guys like Patrick Ewing and John
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  Speaker 2: Starks out there to raise that banner, to pull the strings.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: One pull each.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, maybe Tom Thibodeau. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Julius Randall come into town, pull.
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  Speaker 1: If I told you two guys were going to do that,
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  Speaker 1: who would you go with?
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  Speaker 3: Ewing and starks is pretty good yeah ewing and starks
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  Speaker 3: just because you know how much it means to them
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  Speaker 3: but it feels like everybody's pull has to be like
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  Speaker 3: equal to like how much you contributed to the title
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  Speaker 3: like like latrell spreewell can come over he just gets
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  Speaker 3: like a little like a little tug a slight tug
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  Speaker 3: and then jaylen brunson it's like okay he's gonna jaylen
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  Speaker 3: brunson once we get it three quarters of the way
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  Speaker 3: we we send everybody on their way and say jaylen
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  Speaker 3: You got it from here, Captain.
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  Speaker 2: I like Sprewell with a tug. I like Ewing getting
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  Speaker 2: it up like halfway.
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  Speaker 3: Spike Lee thinks he gets a tug.
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  Speaker 1: Well, do you think he'll get a tug?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: He should.
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  Speaker 2: If Spike Lee was in charge of choosing who's going
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  Speaker 2: to tug the strings to pull the banner up, he
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  Speaker 2: would choose himself, right?
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  Speaker 3: Like Jay-Z?
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  Speaker 4: 100%.
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  Speaker 3: He would get 100% of the tugs.
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  Speaker 2: I like the idea of Ewing getting it halfway up
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  Speaker 2: there and Brunson taking it home.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: A passing under the torch almost.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: But Ewing never won a title. Stop making this title
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  Speaker 3: about yourself, Ewing. No disrespect.
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  Speaker 1: Joel Anderson. You totally disrespected him. Joel Anderson.
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  Speaker 2: Next. He is the inventor of Raise the Roof and
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  Speaker 2: the fastest 10-year-old of all time. Joel Anderson is with us.
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  Speaker 2: Check him out at the Ringer tailgate, wherever you get
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  Speaker 2: your podcasts. Let's start with Texas.
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  Speaker 1: Here, Joel. Thank you for doing this, by the way.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, of course, man. Anytime, Stu. I mean that, literally.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Anytime.
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  Speaker 4: Except, you know, when I remember. Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you forgot yesterday you were apologizing for being unprofessional,
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  Speaker 2: and I said I've been unprofessional my entire life, and
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  Speaker 2: you said you don't strive to be me, and you shouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you should want everybody to try to
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  Speaker 5: surpass you, Stu. I mean, you're at the top of
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  Speaker 5: the mountain. I want to try to get up there
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  Speaker 5: and pass it someday.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, man.
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  Speaker 1: But it's okay. I just want you to know it's okay. Yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: it's fine. I understand. Stuff happens, you know?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, look, man, nobody, you know, the thing is, is
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  Speaker 5: probably nobody holds me accountable. I'm at a place in
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  Speaker 5: my career where nobody, I don't have anybody that tells.
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  Speaker 4: Me what to do other than my wife. You know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean? So, you know, I need some more discipline.
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  Speaker 4: That's clear.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of wives, I told my wife, I said, Joel
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  Speaker 2: Anderson's coming on. She said, with all due respect to Joel,
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  Speaker 2: who is that? And I said, he was the inventor
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  Speaker 2: of Raise the Roof. And she said, that's bullshit.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 1: And I was offended on your behalf. I said to her,
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  Speaker 1: it's not bullshit.
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  Speaker 4: Look it up.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what? I mean, what?
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  Speaker 4: Has she even done the research?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 4: Has she even looked it up? How does she know? Anyway,
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  Speaker 4: how does she know?
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  Speaker 3: She doesn't know anything about the Houston comments. She doesn't
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  Speaker 3: know anything about the Houston comments.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, we're kindred spirits. I mean, no research.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that's unfortunate. So show her the clip. I'll
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  Speaker 5: show her the clip. Give me her number, Stu, and
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  Speaker 5: I'll talk this out with her.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to do that, actually. Right after we hang up,
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  Speaker 1: I will text you my wife's number. Okay, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I want to make the case.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Let's start with Arch Manning in Texas here. I
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  Speaker 2: have three scenarios for you for Arch Manning. He stays
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  Speaker 2: at Texas, he transfers after the season's over, or he
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  Speaker 2: gets drafted in the first round.
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  Speaker 1: Which is the most probable of those outcomes?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry.
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  Speaker 4: No, that's tough.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think three is likely because he could leave
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  Speaker 5: and enter the draft, but there's no way he'd be
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  Speaker 5: a first-round pick right now. Nobody would put that kind
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  Speaker 5: of capital on him. So it depends on what you
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  Speaker 5: think is going to happen with Sark.
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  Speaker 4: So if Sark gets fired, then I.
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  Speaker 5: Can envision a scenario in which Arch sticks around and
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  Speaker 5: they try to get a coach who can try to
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  Speaker 5: get the most out of him for at least one
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  Speaker 5: more year.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 5: The more likely scenario, which, man, it seems crazy to
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  Speaker 5: think about this as potentially happening, is him transferring someplace
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  Speaker 5: else and spending a year in tutelage under somebody else.
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  Speaker 5: Somebody that at least has a current record. for working
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  Speaker 5: with great quarterbacks, right? I mean, it could be Lincoln.
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  Speaker 1: Riley, right?
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  Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley could use Arch Manning. Yes, he could, but
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  Speaker 2: you don't know if Lincoln Riley will be at USC, right?
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  Speaker 4: That's the thing.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, man, USC, they're very rich, but I don't
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  Speaker 5: know if they're $ 70 million rich.
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  Speaker 4: That's a lot of money to get rid of them.
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  Speaker 5: And, you know, USC's only lost one game.
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  Speaker 4: They're still in the playoff hunt.
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  Speaker 5: I know their fans hate him, but there's still a
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  Speaker 5: chance that they could, you know, their goals are in
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  Speaker 5: front of them. With Texas and Steve Sarkisian, It looks
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  Speaker 5: like what else you don't need. They should not need
• 9:40
  Speaker 5: more sample size here.
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  Speaker 4: Right. Right.
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  Speaker 5: It's like it's not going to happen. He's not the
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  Speaker 5: guy like he's been. The thing is, if you think
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  Speaker 5: about it, he's been coaching 13 years. He's had three
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  Speaker 5: really good jobs.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Jobs where guys have won and played in national championships before.
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  Speaker 4: He has one conference championship in 13 years. And it
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  Speaker 4: was the last.
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  Speaker 5: Big 12 championship. So I don't... I would think if
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  Speaker 5: I were the UTAD, I'd be wealthy. That'd be one thing.
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  Speaker 4: And I'd probably do... I think I could do a
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  Speaker 4: good job. But I would want somebody.
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  Speaker 5: That I think that could work with Arch and also
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  Speaker 5: has a record for working with quarterbacks. make one that
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  Speaker 5: surpasses the old Steve Sarkeesian resume.
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  Speaker 4: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: Joel, do you think there's a path back for Bryce
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  Speaker 3: Underwood at Michigan after he gets benched?
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely not.
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  Speaker 1: That's it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: Because I mean, if you're Bryce Underwood and the people,
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  Speaker 5: his handlers, his family, why would you want to go back?
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Like you don't like the thing.
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  Speaker 5: And again, we're talking about people who work with college
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  Speaker 5: quarterbacks and I bring this up all the time. Kyle Whittingham,
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  Speaker 5: in 20 years as a head coach, never had a
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  Speaker 5: quarterback drafted.
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  Speaker 1: Never!
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  Speaker 4: Like, Tyler Huntley was undrafted, and he's managed to spend
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  Speaker 4: some time in the league, and he's done well. I
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  Speaker 4: think he made a Pro Bowl once.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that's the thing. If you're Bryce Underwood, and
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  Speaker 4: presumably that's still your goal. You don't go from.
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  Speaker 5: I was a five star number one recruit to, I
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  Speaker 5: just want to, you know, salvage my college career and just.
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  Speaker 4: Get some snaps.
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  Speaker 5: No, you, you still, he's, I'm sure he and his
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  Speaker 5: family still think if I get with the right coach
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  Speaker 5: and link up with the right coach, there's somebody that
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  Speaker 5: can get, you know, they can unlock this talent. And
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure there's a coach out there that looks at
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  Speaker 5: him and says, Oh, I could do something with that.
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  Speaker 4: Coaches are, you know, they've.
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  Speaker 5: Got the egos to believe that you got to believe
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  Speaker 5: that you can, you're the guy that can make somebody work.
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  Speaker 4: So there's, If I was Bryce Underwood, I.
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  Speaker 5: Wouldn't want to go back to Kyle Whittingham and I
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  Speaker 5: wouldn't want to go back to the Michigan fan base because,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, they've been shitting on that dude, you know,
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  Speaker 5: a year and a half now, man. It just, sometimes
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  Speaker 5: you need to start over. And this seems one of
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  Speaker 5: those cases that, like, if it does not occur to
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  Speaker 5: Bryce Underwood's team that he needs to start over, then
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  Speaker 5: he needs a new team.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I think we need to stop using the Pro Bowl,
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  Speaker 2: holding it up as some sort of accomplishment.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I know.
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  Speaker 2: The Tyler Huntley Pro Bowl thing.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that's just like, how many games did Tyler
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  Speaker 5: Huntley even start the year that he made.
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  Speaker 4: The Pro Bowl?
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea. Yeah, no idea. He's always there
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  Speaker 2: for Lamar, though, just in the event that he gets hurt,
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  Speaker 2: you know?
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  Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, man, I was shocked. I
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  Speaker 5: was like, man, he's still in the NFL, bro. Congrats
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  Speaker 5: to him. I didn't know that he was still making
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  Speaker 5: it out there.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead, Taylor.
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  Speaker 3: He started four regular season games his.
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  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl season. Come on, man.
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  Speaker 5: Who are you in here, man? You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 5: They don't even play that game in Hawaii anymore. It's
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  Speaker 5: just nobody.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, when's the last time y'all sat down and
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  Speaker 4: watched a Pro Bowl? Never. I didn't watch it when
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  Speaker 4: I watched every football game.
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  Speaker 1: Right, yes.
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  Speaker 5: I watched the blue-gray all-star college football game more than
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  Speaker 5: I watched the NFL football.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, yes. The senior game, you're saying, right?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that senior game. Yeah, they were playing on Christmas
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  Speaker 4: or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, it was great.
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  Speaker 4: It was like all the guys that didn't play in
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  Speaker 4: bowl games.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: I watched that a lot more than I watched the
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  Speaker 4: Pro Bowl. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Bear was on with us yesterday, and even while losing,
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  Speaker 2: he felt like Indiana had a better chance of making
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  Speaker 2: it to a national championship then Ohio State, because of
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  Speaker 2: the injury to Julian Sane.
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  Speaker 1: Do you agree with that?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know how many losses that the committee
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  Speaker 5: is willing to allow Ohio State to have just because
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  Speaker 5: their quarterback isn't healthy. And Ohio State, if you believe it,
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  Speaker 5: I think they've got the hardest schedule in the country.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, they've got USC, they've got Oregon, they've got Michigan.
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  Speaker 5: And again, it doesn't make a difference how good Michigan is.
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  Speaker 5: They're firmly in Ryan Day's head. So that's going to
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  Speaker 5: be an adventure no matter what. And now maybe Julian
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  Speaker 5: Sand will be back earlier than that. And, you know,
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  Speaker 5: this will all be not, you know, this is.
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  Speaker 4: All for naught.
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  Speaker 5: But I don't feel good about the quarterbacks that they
• 14:01
  Speaker 5: put out there. The quarterback, the Fahey kid, I didn't
• 14:03
  Speaker 5: feel good about that. And clearly they didn't trust him.
• 14:06
  Speaker 5: Now maybe they get a chance. You know, they have
• 14:08
  Speaker 5: some time to game plan. They got a bye week,
• 14:10
  Speaker 5: so maybe they can figure out some stuff. But I
• 14:12
  Speaker 5: don't feel good about Ohio State's chances. Whereas with Indiana,
• 14:16
  Speaker 5: their schedule is okay. I mean, they're going to Michigan
• 14:20
  Speaker 5: this week, and that'll be tough for them. But I
• 14:23
  Speaker 5: feel like when you saw that game, you saw with Indiana, oh,
• 14:27
  Speaker 5: I can see a path for them. This is being
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: a mulligan, and they'll be okay. They don't make a
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: lot of turnovers. They don't make a lot of penalties.
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: I can see them running the table. I believe in
• 14:39
  Speaker 5: Kurt Cignetti that much. He's got me to believe that
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: Indiana football, for whatever reason, is the most consistently good
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: program in the country.
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: Joel, if I was playing devil's advocate on Ohio State's
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: behalf and their quarterback situation, Jeremiah Smith?
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: Oh, like do a little Wildcat with him?
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: No, just him.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: Just the fact that that quarterback, whatever quarterback you don't
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: feel that good about, they get to throw to him.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: You just throw the ball to Jeremiah Smith, right?
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: I mean, I've seen in my lifetime, so TCU, I
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: cannot remember who the quarterback, I think it was Max Duggan,
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: when he was at TCU early in his career, before
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: he had the renaissance. And TCU had this receiver, Jalen Rager,
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: you may remember, he was first round pick, Went to Philly.
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: And I felt so bad for Jalen Rager because he
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: was just doing wind sprints every fucking game.
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: Oh, I have a lot of curse words. Yes, you do.
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: So Jalen Rager's just going out there doing wind sprints,
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: the passes are sailing over his head, and he would
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: just get so frustrated. And I could totally imagine Jeremiah Smith, who,
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: as far as I can tell, is the ultimate teammate.
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: He seems like a good kid, that he's willing to
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: do whatever it takes.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: But at a.
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: Certain point, I mean, man, you need somebody to throw
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: you the ball accurately to somebody that's not going to
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: throw hospital balls, all that stuff. Like, Jeremiah Smith is great,
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: the greatest college wide receiver I've ever seen in my life.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: But can't nothing help you if your quarterback back there
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: is weak. Remember when Julian Sand looked terrible in the
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: opening game against Texas a few weeks ago? The first game,
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: his first game of the season opener last year.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: He looked horrible. And Jeremiah Smith was getting frustrated in
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: that game. Yes, yes.
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: So, like, just imagine that over a season where he
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: came back, this is all he's here for, to play
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: for a national championship, to be a Heisman Trophy finalist,
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: and he's playing with a guy that's got a, you know,
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: a foot for an.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: Arm, bro. Yeah. So I don't know.
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: I don't, I don't, I don't, it doesn't, it's going
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: to take more than that.
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: They're going to need somebody that can actually get him
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: to ball accurately.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Reagan went one pick in the draft before Justin Jefferson.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Hey, man.
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: Hey, man, look, man, I have to be his apologist, man.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know what happened to the league. I don't
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: know who his quarterbacks were those years.
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: But Jalen Rager was the best athlete that TCU has
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: had since LaDainian Tomlinson.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Years of watching him. He was really good.
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: Now, you know, the TCU receivers like Josh Dodson and
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: Quentin Johnson, It hasn't really quite worked out, but Jalen
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: Rager was that dude, man.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: It seems like we forgot that Mississippi might be the
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: best team in the country.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: It definitely has the best player in the country. Fair. Yes.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: Chambers, man. He's amazing. I mean, he really is.
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, again, he's 24 years old and he's five
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: foot 11. And if you can overlook all that and
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: don't think about like his NFL future, like that dude
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: is a dimer. Like he can just he it's he
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: gives you a chance in every game. Mississippi does not.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: Ole Miss does not have a good defense in spite
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: of what happened against Mizzou last week. They've been one
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: of the worst defenses in the country. And in spite
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: of that, against teams with other good offenses, he's been
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: able to overcome them. And I just, yeah, like we,
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: it's just like, we forgot, you know, we was like, Oh,
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: we got fascinated with Jeremiah Smith and Camario and Keelan Russell.
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: And it was like, Oh yeah, actually that dude, uh,
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: Trinidad Chambliss, the one who almost led Ole Miss to
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: the national championship, which is crazy. If you've been following
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: college football your whole life, uh, That guy is the
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: best player in the country. The quarterback I trust the most, yes.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Joel, when Alabama loses to Georgia, I think a lot
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: of people still felt good about Alabama because we wanted
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: to see Kalen DeBoer have some edge with this team,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: have some physicality and toughness, and it looked like they
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: got that against Georgia. And then they kind of reverted
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: back to their old ways against Tennessee where they kind
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: of got manhandled on both sides of the trenches. Where's
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: your level of concern at with this Alabama team sitting
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: at 5-2?
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: What if Georgia is overrated? Yeah.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: They might.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: They might be.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: Georgia had not played anybody, and they barely eked out
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: a win over Bama. And then they go to, you know,
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: at home against Auburn, Auburn who had shown no capability
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: of doing anything like that.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Auburn kicked their head in. Okay? Yes.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: So to take that to Bama, I mean, again, Bama
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: had played some tough games. They'd won, you know, they
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: beat Kentucky pretty good. They beat Mississippi State. But, like,
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: I don't really know how good that Alabama team was. Like,
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: they still don't have— the running game is better. They clearly
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: have one of the best quarterbacks in terms of talent
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: that they've had since Bryce Young. But, like, I still
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: couldn't tell a lot about them from that Georgia game.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: It just depends on how good you think Georgia is. So, clearly,
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: the Bama fans, if you read their message boards— They
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: think that there's a problem there. Now, they always think
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: there's a problem there. But I'm just looking at that team.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: That team does not look dominant or overwhelming. And certainly,
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: if they're going to compare Kalen DeBoer to Nick Saban
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: for the rest of Kalen DeBoer's time there, then I
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: suggest that Kalen DeBoer go somewhere where they appreciate him.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: Right. Because it's never going to work. Right.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Well, the problem is they don't have Nick Saban.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right. Yeah. But you know what? If they had
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: had Nick Saban another couple years, I don't.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't know.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: They were not.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: They were the last couple of years. They were not
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: the same caliber team that they had been.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: Yes. Yeah.
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: But again, Alabama fans, man, what the what the hell
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: is wrong with y'all? Y'all had an incredible run. You
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: should be able to sit on your ass and enjoy it.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Like, will you what do you think is supposed to happen? Right.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Like.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: I don't understand.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I was saying that about Indiana fans. Just enjoy last
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: year for the next decade, you know?
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't understand.
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: Like, it's just like, yo, you should be grateful. The
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: Rockets won two championships in my childhood. And I'm like,
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: I'm pretty good with that. Like, I would like to
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: see them win another championship, but it's hard.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Yes. Like, everybody wants to do that. Yes. Yes.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I got my next title. I'm good. I mean, I
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: don't care if they never win another game.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Yeah.
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: And then you get into the season and then you
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: get frustrated. And it's just like, But I had that championship, though,
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: so I'm not going to trip about it. And with Bama,
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: I mean, again, I don't, you know, I guess they say, look,
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: we spend a lot of money. We want it more
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: than anybody else. We want somebody that reflects our commitment
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: to wanting it more. But I'm just like, man, Georgia
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: wants it as bad as you do. LSU wants it
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: as bad as you do.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: You got to.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: Deal with them boys, man. Every year it ain't going
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: to be like that. But, yeah, you know, I don't
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: think Bama is a great team. And as long as
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: they're not great, that's never going to be good enough
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: down there.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Two quick ones on Notre Dame. First, did they get
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: robbed against BYU?
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't, I don't, it's hard to say
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: it hurts me. It does. It's painful.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: Yes. Yeah, man. I mean, I look, I, I don't
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: have anything against Notre Dame, but I also don't like them.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like it's just, you know,
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: they're just kind of whatever.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: They have all the advantages, you know, all the money
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: they want, all the prestige. And, you know, it's just like,
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: Hey man, sometimes it's just going to happen to you
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: that you're going to get, be on the wrong side
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: of a call. Ask Western Michigan about it. But yeah,
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: I mean, that was, they messed up. I don't, My
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: thought was that the officials there were like, we got
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: to get the hell out of here, man.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: These people are excited. I don't want.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: To be on the field.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: I don't want to make them mad. Let's get out
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: of here.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: There's plausible deniability enough.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: So yeah, Notre Dame got job.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: They should have got, they should, that was pass interference
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: and they should have had one more down.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame, can they survive if they lose to Miami?
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Can they make the playoff if they lose to UM?
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: I think people are going to be inclined to want
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: to make it up to them for last year because
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: of how mad they got and took their ball and
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: went home and didn't go to the bowl game.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, plus the BYU call.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the BYU call.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: So, yeah, I can see people being like, all right.
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: And that game was on the road.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: But, yeah, I think they can survive, but it's not
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: a case that I would be excited about.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: Right. And they should have to sweat it out. Yes.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: They should have to sweat it out.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Joel Anderson, the ringer tailgate. Check him out wherever you
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: get your podcast. They're fantastic. He's fantastic. Final question on
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: the way out, at least for me. I don't know
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: if Taylor has another one here, but Miami, what were
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: your thoughts there? Yes, I think they're the best team
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: in the country, although I have to question after what
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: I saw against Florida State. Does Mike Norvell have a
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: right to be upset about those last two plays?
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: Hell yeah.
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: I mean, he's coaching for his life. He's coaching for
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: his future. Every game is a referendum on Mike Louisville,
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: and they got screwed. Now, your boy Billy thinks that
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: there's some mass conspiracy to elevate Miami. I was like,
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: what are you really saying, dog? You really think in
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: that moment that they're trying to save Miami?
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: But come on.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, Billy's, listen, he's got a conspiracy for everything.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: He's got a conspiracy for everything, for life. I mean,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: everyone's conspiring against Billy, you know?
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: I mean, I was just like, yo, man, that's, I mean,
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: I know you got your little beef with the Canes,
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: which I still think.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Is weird because you grew up down there. There's no
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: reason for you to hate. You didn't like Michael Irvin? No, no, no.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: You didn't like Andre Johnson?
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. I love the Canes. I actually
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: grew up in New York. We didn't have a college
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: football team.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: No, Billy Hayes.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: Oh, Billy.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, Billy with the FIU. That's why. Yeah, I mean, that's...
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, so?
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, there's a bunch of people in Texas that, like,
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: you know, they went to the University of Houston, but
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: they root for Texas.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Yes. You know?
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Yes, but what Billy's upset about is he actually went
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: to FIU.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: He gets upset at Canes fans because none of them,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: and I mean none of them, went to the University
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: of Miami.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: Damn.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Joel, his entire class at FIU would walk through campus
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: in UM gear.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: And then UM would play FIU.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: And they would root for UM over FIU. Yes.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: I do understand, like, have some respect for yourself. But
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: I feel like he just takes it a little too far.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: I was like, man, but your teams were cool. I
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: rooted for Miami. I had never even been to Florida
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: when I was rooting for Miami in the 80s and 90s.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: They were cool. He didn't like a cool team. That
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: I don't get. I don't care how much the other
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: people were annoying you. No. I hate Texas. But when
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: Vince Young was there and they were cool, I rooted
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: for Vince Young. Yes.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I see both sides of it. I do. I really do.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: All he's saying is just because you're from Miami.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Like, I have a friend who's from Miami, went to
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: school in Florida, and is still a Canes fan.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: You went to Florida.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: I mean, man, that Kane shit, man, it's so, it's
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: all about you, man. I mean, but, you know, Billy, man,
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: he's a champion pole vaulter.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: You know, he bled for his school. I know. So
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: maybe that's what it is.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: That's exactly right. He bled for his school. That's exactly right.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: He bled for his school.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Weak-ass blood.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: The ringer tailgate.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Check him out wherever you get your podcasts.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Joel, we appreciate you doing this, man. I can't have
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: a yawn enough. So thank you, man.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: Anytime, buddy. Anytime. All right, man.