Latest / I Do, Part 2 / Baby Boom! Cameron Diaz Welcomes Baby No. 3 at 53, Part Of A Growing Trend.
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Heylks. It is Monday, May fourth, and Cameron Diaz just
- 0:08Speaker 1: had a baby at fifty three years old, So why
- 0:12Speaker 1: can't we And with that, welcome to this episode of
- 0:16Speaker 1: Amy and TJ or Parents to Be. I should say,
- 0:20Speaker 1: why are you laughing? We talk about this some kind
- 0:22Speaker 1: of Sometimes you think I'm joking about this, but I
- 0:25Speaker 1: am moved to a moment. Some oftentimes I think, Wow,
- 0:28Speaker 1: I wish you and I could have kids together. Cameron
- 0:31Speaker 1: Diaz is showing us the way that's true.
- 0:35Speaker 2: Having no, she's fifty three, I don't know, we don't know.
- 0:39Speaker 2: I don't believe she was pregnant, but she had a baby.
- 0:42Speaker 2: She welcomed a baby with her husband, Benji Madden, and
- 0:45Speaker 2: it was their third child, So third child at fifty three.
- 0:49Speaker 2: He's forty seven. I know she had her second child
- 0:51Speaker 2: at fifty one and her first one in her late forties.
- 0:54Speaker 2: But defying the odds in a lot of ways about
- 0:57Speaker 2: what the expectations are around older women. You finally find
- 1:01Speaker 2: the love of your life, you want to start a
- 1:03Speaker 2: family with them, and a lot of women feel like
- 1:06Speaker 2: they don't have options. But celebrities are proving more and
- 1:10Speaker 2: more and more, and granted you usually have to have
- 1:12Speaker 2: some means to be able to pull this off because
- 1:14Speaker 2: it isn't something that ordinarily can happen naturally.
- 1:18Speaker 3: Yes, it's possible, but.
- 1:20Speaker 2: Extremely rare, so usually you do need some financial help,
- 1:24Speaker 2: meaning donor eggs ivf assaragate even perhaps. But celebrities and
- 1:30Speaker 2: women around the world are proving it is possible.
- 1:33Speaker 1: Okay, we know it's possible. Is this going to be
- 1:37Speaker 1: the direction things are going? As women, at least I
- 1:42Speaker 1: keep hearing, continue to delay sometimes marriage or having kids
- 1:47Speaker 1: because they want to do career first, so they want
- 1:50Speaker 1: to do whatever. Is this the direction things are going
- 1:53Speaker 1: to go?
- 1:54Speaker 2: It appears so, and a lot of women in their
- 1:56Speaker 2: twenties and thirties are making plans to give themselves more
- 2:00Speaker 2: option by freezing their eggs and so, look, the whole
- 2:04Speaker 2: issue is, and this is pretty remarkable when you see
- 2:06Speaker 2: what a woman's body does. But you're born with millions
- 2:10Speaker 2: of eggs and by the time you're forty, you have
- 2:13Speaker 2: ten percent of those eggs left. So your fertility rates
- 2:18Speaker 2: or your ability to get pregnant, drastically decrease after the
- 2:21Speaker 2: age of thirty five, and that is why you're called Basically,
- 2:25Speaker 2: it's a geriatric pregnancy basically if you are over the
- 2:28Speaker 2: age of thirty five. But now we are seeing plenty
- 2:31Speaker 2: of women at the age of forty and yes, fifty
- 2:34Speaker 2: and beyond getting pregnant either with help. And is it
- 2:39Speaker 2: possible to carry a child after menopause. Yes, it is
- 2:42Speaker 2: with a donor egg, with some help from some drugs
- 2:47Speaker 2: and hormones, and under the care of a physician.
- 2:50Speaker 3: But it's remarkable. We do talk about it all the time.
- 2:52Speaker 2: We have yes, joked about it, Yes, mentioned how wonderful
- 2:56Speaker 2: it would be. And I've often said, yeah, if I
- 2:59Speaker 2: was a little younger, or maybe before my cancer, all
- 3:01Speaker 2: of this would have been something we would have seriously considered.
- 3:04Speaker 3: But it is.
- 3:05Speaker 2: It's inspirational because I think a lot of folks think, oh,
- 3:09Speaker 2: that's selfish, the child will have a parent who's too old.
- 3:13Speaker 2: But there are so many studies that have been done
- 3:15Speaker 2: over the last several decades showing that that's not the case.
- 3:19Speaker 2: That you have wiser, calmer, better parents, you have children
- 3:24Speaker 2: who have better outcomes, higher IQs, even taller. I've seen
- 3:29Speaker 2: all these studies where it's actually quite different than what
- 3:33Speaker 2: people anticipated.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Have you seen anything much of anything? I know you
- 3:37Speaker 1: haven't gone that deep into it. But anything that starts
- 3:41Speaker 1: to suggest a drumbeat of it's bad for the kid.
- 3:46Speaker 1: Is there much of a negative that anyone suggests that
- 3:49Speaker 1: you just reeled off some of the quick highlights and
- 3:51Speaker 1: the positives. I mean, is anyone out there saying you
- 3:55Speaker 1: should not have a child by the age after the
- 3:57Speaker 1: age of blank because you're going to harm your child
- 4:00Speaker 1: in some way?
- 4:02Speaker 3: You know what I have to tell you. I was shocked.
- 4:04Speaker 3: I saw almost only positive.
- 4:09Speaker 2: Articles, positive statistics, encouragement, inspiration, and I really didn't see
- 4:14Speaker 2: a lot of negativity. Now, granted, they do talk about
- 4:17Speaker 2: in several of these articles, and a lot of women
- 4:19Speaker 2: older women who are or have become the public face
- 4:23Speaker 2: perhaps of being an older mom aka Jenna Jackson who had.
- 4:26Speaker 3: A baby at the age of fifty.
- 4:28Speaker 2: They have talked about how people will make comments or
- 4:31Speaker 2: do judge them for being selfish. But it looks as
- 4:35Speaker 2: though all of the material that people have looked at
- 4:38Speaker 2: and studied for women who have been older, who have
- 4:40Speaker 2: had children, it's all been positive.
- 4:42Speaker 3: And maybe it's just yeah, yeah, it's public.
- 4:46Speaker 2: It's formed opinion based on what we think is right
- 4:49Speaker 2: or what we think you should do. But the truth
- 4:51Speaker 2: is this is such a personal decision and it's based
- 4:54Speaker 2: on your experience and your family and your dynamic and
- 4:58Speaker 2: your partner and all the things that you're looking for
- 5:00Speaker 2: and what you can provide that child. A young woman
- 5:03Speaker 2: at the age of eighteen might be physically ready and
- 5:06Speaker 2: at her height or prime to have a baby, but
- 5:08Speaker 2: mentally financially, she might be the worst possible candidate to
- 5:12Speaker 2: be a mom.
- 5:14Speaker 1: No, that was you saw me there. It was an
- 5:17Speaker 1: interesting way to put it. The only thing as far
- 5:19Speaker 1: as pushback or criticism or of someone having it's just
- 5:24Speaker 1: us judging others the people.
- 5:25Speaker 3: That's exactly what it boils to other people. Okay, that
- 5:29Speaker 3: is what I saw.
- 5:30Speaker 2: But this is pretty interesting when you look at some
- 5:31Speaker 2: of the statistics over the past decade, and we've seen
- 5:35Speaker 2: this trend NonStop here in the United States. Birth rates
- 5:38Speaker 2: have declined, they are declining, but the birth rate in
- 5:41Speaker 2: people aged forty five to forty nine has risen by
- 5:45Speaker 2: twelve percent, and it also has risen significantly in people
- 5:49Speaker 2: fifty years and older.
- 5:50Speaker 1: That's kind of cool.
- 5:51Speaker 3: I think it is too.
- 5:53Speaker 1: That says a lot, and I think that is a
- 5:56Speaker 1: cool I don't know what the numbers will be later,
- 5:58Speaker 1: but the idea that people are no recognizing that you
- 6:01Speaker 1: have options later that you're not. I mean sometimes, Robes,
- 6:05Speaker 1: we know people personally that we believe made bad decisions
- 6:08Speaker 1: based on well, I gotta hurry up and get married
- 6:11Speaker 1: because my clock is ticking. We know these folks, and
- 6:13Speaker 1: plenty of folks are out there. Look, we're not judging
- 6:16Speaker 1: anybody for that, but Rodes, I'm saying this takes away
- 6:20Speaker 1: right that element of a woman's life in thinking I
- 6:23Speaker 1: have to make this decision with this guy about this
- 6:27Speaker 1: relationship because I want this other thinges that statistic is
- 6:32Speaker 1: the most eye opening an encouraging thing I have heard
- 6:37Speaker 1: so far by.
- 6:37Speaker 3: The story, agreed.
- 6:38Speaker 2: Look, the average age for menopause is fifty one, and
- 6:42Speaker 2: most fertility experts, most doctors, will tell you that by
- 6:46Speaker 2: the age of forty five, a woman's chance of getting
- 6:49Speaker 2: pregnant naturally is almost zero. I mean, it's possible, but
- 6:53Speaker 2: it's nearly miraculous.
- 6:55Speaker 1: Can I ask you the next thing? This is what
- 6:56Speaker 1: I forgot to ask, is the issue of a woman's
- 6:59Speaker 1: age having a baby, the issue of getting pregnant or
- 7:03Speaker 1: once you are pregnant by a certain age, there is
- 7:05Speaker 1: a really high risk.
- 7:07Speaker 3: I guess what is.
- 7:07Speaker 1: The biggest issue there for women as the clock is ticking.
- 7:11Speaker 1: Are they more freaked out I'm not going to be
- 7:12Speaker 1: able to get pregnant, or if I do, i'm a
- 7:14Speaker 1: high risk pregnancy.
- 7:15Speaker 3: I think it's both.
- 7:16Speaker 2: But the biggest issue is the amount of eggs you
- 7:19Speaker 2: have left and the quality of those eggs. Okay, so
- 7:21Speaker 2: you have a diminished quality of eggs. You have very
- 7:24Speaker 2: few eggs left by the time you're forty, and then
- 7:28Speaker 2: add it to fifty.
- 7:29Speaker 3: So here's an idea. Birth. You have millions of eggs
- 7:32Speaker 3: when you're born.
- 7:33Speaker 2: By the time you reach puberty, it's about three hundred
- 7:35Speaker 2: thousand to four hundred thousand. By the time you reach
- 7:38Speaker 2: age thirty, it goes down to about one hundred thousand
- 7:41Speaker 2: and thirty five.
- 7:42Speaker 3: It starts rapidly declining to the point where at.
- 7:44Speaker 2: Age forty you might only have five thousand eggs left,
- 7:47Speaker 2: and by age fifty one you have less than a thousand.
- 7:50Speaker 2: And the ones that are there, I don't know. It
- 7:53Speaker 2: just the ones that are there aren't.
- 7:56Speaker 3: The best quality.
- 7:57Speaker 2: And that's why doctors suggest freezing eggs at twenty or thirty.
- 8:01Speaker 3: When your eggs are in.
- 8:02Speaker 2: Prime I guess prime ability to have the least amount
- 8:07Speaker 2: of potential risks for any sort of birth effect.
- 8:10Speaker 1: Sorry, baby, do you have any idea how many people freeze?
- 8:12Speaker 1: Like when I hear Piman say I'm going to freeze my.
- 8:14Speaker 3: Eggs, I don't know.
- 8:16Speaker 2: I don't know how many they freeze. But it's a
- 8:18Speaker 2: couple months process, and you go through certain hormones that
- 8:22Speaker 2: they do to boost your egg production. They freeze those eggs,
- 8:25Speaker 2: they make sure they're viable, they're in their good quality eggs,
- 8:28Speaker 2: so to speak, and then you have that's the point
- 8:32Speaker 2: in which you can implant those eggs, your own eggs.
- 8:34Speaker 2: You can fertilize them, put them in your body, and
- 8:37Speaker 2: they're your eggs, but they're the best version of you basically.
- 8:40Speaker 2: So that's oftentimes what happens. And I remember hearing from
- 8:44Speaker 2: again fertility specialist saying, if you hear of a woman
- 8:47Speaker 2: who actually got pregnant and gave birth to their child
- 8:51Speaker 2: over the age of fifty, pretty much anytime over the
- 8:53Speaker 2: age of forty five, almost certainly, other than rare occasions,
- 8:56Speaker 2: they were able to do so with a donor egg.
- 8:59Speaker 3: And then for till the IVF treatments.
- 9:02Speaker 1: And we don't know what happened with Cameron Diaz, and
- 9:05Speaker 1: it should be known she has I mean, this is
- 9:08Speaker 1: probably all we're going to get about the kid. They
- 9:10Speaker 1: don't put their kids out there in public.
- 9:12Speaker 3: I think it's pretty cool to each the room.
- 9:14Speaker 2: But Cameron Diaz and Benji Madden have been very intentional
- 9:18Speaker 2: in being extremely private about having kids and even just
- 9:24Speaker 2: what that journey was like to have kids at her age.
- 9:28Speaker 3: Benji actually put it out on Instagram.
- 9:29Speaker 2: He made the announcement saying, Cameron and I are happy,
- 9:31Speaker 2: excited and feeling so blessed to announce the birth of
- 9:34Speaker 2: our third child, Noduce Nautas Madden.
- 9:38Speaker 3: Welcome to the world. Son.
- 9:39Speaker 2: So they have a daughter named Radix Wildflower and another
- 9:43Speaker 2: son named Cardinal and so look, Cameron Diaz has talked
- 9:47Speaker 2: a little bit just about being an older mom and
- 9:49Speaker 2: the challenges, but saying that she needed to find the
- 9:52Speaker 2: right person and she needed to be in the right
- 9:54Speaker 2: place in her life.
- 9:55Speaker 3: She's a happier mother.
- 9:56Speaker 2: She can obviously financially take care of her children and
- 9:59Speaker 2: she has the time not o to do so.
- 10:00Speaker 3: She's been able to take a step.
- 10:01Speaker 2: Back from her acting career and be able to focus
- 10:05Speaker 2: on motherhood. And that's pretty damn cool because I know
- 10:08Speaker 2: when I was juggling in I had my first Eva
- 10:11Speaker 2: at twenty nine and my second Annalise at thirty three,
- 10:14Speaker 2: I was in the throes of work, and through most
- 10:17Speaker 2: of their formative years, I was working way more than
- 10:20Speaker 2: I wish I had to.
- 10:22Speaker 3: So I think it's cool and they'll.
- 10:23Speaker 1: Give her credit. I mean, we know her name, We've
- 10:26Speaker 1: never forgotten Cameron Dia as we never will. But she
- 10:30Speaker 1: was not on our screens for a good chunk of time,
- 10:33Speaker 1: and apparently that was intentional and good for her. She
- 10:37Speaker 1: took this time out to spend those times with the kid.
- 10:40Speaker 1: How old is the oldest?
- 10:41Speaker 2: Six six, So she's fifty three, so you can do
- 10:44Speaker 2: the math. Yes, she was forty seven when she had
- 10:47Speaker 2: her first child.
- 10:48Speaker 1: Have you seen anything out there? I haven't done a
- 10:49Speaker 1: deep enough dive in which some are trying to anything,
- 10:54Speaker 1: I mean, beyond the regular stuff you can expect online
- 10:59Speaker 1: in each kind of way criticizing or trying to question
- 11:02Speaker 1: her for having a child at fifty three.
- 11:05Speaker 3: I haven't seen it yet.
- 11:06Speaker 2: I'm sure if you go on to Reddit or you
- 11:08Speaker 2: go on to X or you go on to whatever.
- 11:11Speaker 2: I'm sure you can find someone throwing stones, not living
- 11:14Speaker 2: in their glasshouse. But I liked some of what Cameron
- 11:17Speaker 2: had to say about She gave a few quotes when
- 11:20Speaker 2: she had her son at fifty one. She said, when
- 11:23Speaker 2: you're my age and you decide to do it, it's
- 11:26Speaker 2: a real choice.
- 11:27Speaker 3: You really have to work hard for it.
- 11:29Speaker 2: The only pressure for me is like I have to
- 11:32Speaker 2: live to be one hundred and seven, you know, so
- 11:35Speaker 2: no pressure. So she joked about the fact that she
- 11:37Speaker 2: understands that she won't maybe be there for grandchildren in
- 11:41Speaker 2: the way that a lot of other women who had
- 11:44Speaker 2: children younger might, and.
- 11:45Speaker 3: That's that's a choice.
- 11:46Speaker 2: But I think it's a beautiful and amazing story to
- 11:49Speaker 2: be able that technology exists, that there is a way
- 11:54Speaker 2: for women who are older, who were able to focus
- 11:57Speaker 2: on themselves maybe early on in their lives, to now
- 11:59Speaker 2: be able to spend the second part of their lives
- 12:01Speaker 2: focusing on children.
- 12:03Speaker 3: That's kind of cool.
- 12:04Speaker 1: No, I never thought about it that way. What an
- 12:05Speaker 1: interesting potential motivator and keeping people to live longer if
- 12:12Speaker 1: you're having kids at a later age, what a motivation
- 12:17Speaker 1: at fifty three to stick around as long as possible
- 12:20Speaker 1: for this new baby.
- 12:21Speaker 3: Ain't that true?
- 12:22Speaker 2: And there are articles written about that that they're actually
- 12:25Speaker 2: seeing improved health benefits for women who have children later.
- 12:29Speaker 2: However they do it, whether by the way, whether it's
- 12:31Speaker 2: adopting children, whether it's having a surrogate, whether it's having
- 12:35Speaker 2: a donor eg, whether it's having giving birth to your
- 12:37Speaker 2: by yourself on your own, regardless if you choose to
- 12:41Speaker 2: become a parent fifty plus, they actually say there are
- 12:45Speaker 2: benefits to the parents men and women both because of
- 12:48Speaker 2: what you just said. You have a reason, and it's intentional.
- 12:52Speaker 2: This isn't a whoopsie, This isn't a oh no, what
- 12:55Speaker 2: am I supposed to do now that I'm pregnant. This
- 12:57Speaker 2: is a joyful, intentional, surpisful journey where you are actually
- 13:01Speaker 2: focused on being the best parent you can, which actually
- 13:04Speaker 2: has real benefits to you physically, emotionally, mentally as an
- 13:08Speaker 2: adult growing older.
- 13:10Speaker 1: And also when you're sixty you got to run around
- 13:14Speaker 1: the playground. That might keep you active as well. Well.
- 13:16Speaker 3: It does, it does. I think it's pretty cool, Like
- 13:19Speaker 3: I really hadn't thought about this. Listen to this statistic.
- 13:22Speaker 2: The number of women having their first baby when they
- 13:25Speaker 2: are over thirty five has increased more than two hundred
- 13:28Speaker 2: and seventy percent over the last four decades. That's huge, huge, Yes,
- 13:33Speaker 2: And look, the point being I did mention it does
- 13:36Speaker 2: tend to happen. You do tend to see these types
- 13:40Speaker 2: of pregnancies and deliveries with women and people who have
- 13:46Speaker 2: who have money. Basically, bottom line, it can cost as
- 13:49Speaker 2: much as twenty five thousand to thirty thousand dollars just
- 13:52Speaker 2: for an egg donation for a single IVF attempt. That
- 13:56Speaker 2: doesn't include if you have to hire a sarrogate, if
- 13:59Speaker 2: you you know there you're talking. It could be six
- 14:01Speaker 2: figures to actually have a baby at a certain age,
- 14:05Speaker 2: after a certain age.
- 14:07Speaker 1: Okay, we don't know how she did this, but the
- 14:09Speaker 1: options Okay, she could have been an anomaly, gotten pregnant,
- 14:14Speaker 1: had a baby. That's not the case. We're suggesting suggesting
- 14:18Speaker 1: she could have frozen an egg. I'm really walking through it.
- 14:21Speaker 1: Camerd or what's someone that could have done. She could
- 14:23Speaker 1: have frozen an egg earlier. That egg could have been
- 14:26Speaker 1: implanted in her correct and she carried. Yes, that's an option, yes,
- 14:31Speaker 1: or that same egg could have been.
- 14:34Speaker 2: Implanted in a surrogate or most likely, most likely she
- 14:38Speaker 2: had a donor EG. So she had a donor EG
- 14:40Speaker 2: from a woman. And look, I have actually had several
- 14:43Speaker 2: friends go through this process in their late forties early fifties,
- 14:47Speaker 2: and it really kind of is an interesting thing, at
- 14:49Speaker 2: least the way they've described it to me. You actually
- 14:51Speaker 2: go through a book of baby pictures. They don't a
- 14:55Speaker 2: lot of these women who donate their eggs don't want
- 14:57Speaker 2: obviously their faces and their images and their names to
- 14:59Speaker 2: be known for all parties included. So they actually have
- 15:02Speaker 2: a baby picture of these women who are donor egg
- 15:06Speaker 2: who give eggs, and you can see someone who looks
- 15:09Speaker 2: a lot like you, and then you would in a
- 15:11Speaker 2: lot of the cases, at least in my friends cases,
- 15:13Speaker 2: you have then their husband's sperm. It fertilizes that donor
- 15:17Speaker 2: egg with the baby picture that probably looks a lot
- 15:20Speaker 2: like you, and you end up getting a baby and
- 15:21Speaker 2: you get to know all of this woman's health history, etc.
- 15:24Speaker 3: That looks like a version of you and your husband.
- 15:27Speaker 1: To your point, yes, that's intentional.
- 15:30Speaker 3: It is.
- 15:30Speaker 1: Go through that process. You have so many times to
- 15:33Speaker 1: say no and I refuse, and the checks you have
- 15:36Speaker 1: to write and the contracts you have to sign. That
- 15:38Speaker 1: is intentional and you for sure want that child. That's
- 15:43Speaker 1: that's a big deal.
- 15:44Speaker 2: It is a big deal. And look, you know I
- 15:46Speaker 2: have just said, well, I guess I'll wait. I guess
- 15:48Speaker 2: I'll wait for grandbabies, I'm probably will have to wait. Well,
- 15:52Speaker 2: I hope at least five to ten years. But I
- 15:55Speaker 2: think about my grandmother and my mother. My grandmother was
- 15:58Speaker 2: made a grandmother at forty. That's like, it's so interesting
- 16:02Speaker 2: to me because I've had the opposite experience from my
- 16:05Speaker 2: family's perspective that my grandma had my dad at the
- 16:09Speaker 2: age of twenty one, and my dad and my mom
- 16:12Speaker 2: had me at the age of nineteen. So by the
- 16:14Speaker 2: time she was forty, I was born. But I had
- 16:17Speaker 2: my grandparents. I had all four grandparents up until a
- 16:20Speaker 2: few years ago.
- 16:21Speaker 3: That's a beautiful thing.
- 16:23Speaker 2: But I also think if you're a woman and you're
- 16:26Speaker 2: at a place in your life where you want to
- 16:28Speaker 2: be a mom, it's just so cool that you can.
- 16:31Speaker 2: So when we come back, we're going to talk about
- 16:33Speaker 2: this long list of celebrities who had babies or brought
- 16:36Speaker 2: children into their lives after the age of fifty. It's
- 16:39Speaker 2: pretty remarkable. And we're going to talk about the oldest
- 16:42Speaker 2: woman to ever give birth. I'm gonna have you guess, babe,
- 16:45Speaker 2: how old do.
- 16:45Speaker 3: You think she was?
- 16:49Speaker 1: Fifty four?
- 16:51Speaker 3: We'll have the answer when we come back.
- 17:02Speaker 1: We continue here on Amy and TJ. Ropes hit me
- 17:05Speaker 1: with a low Q and a quiz right before. So,
- 17:09Speaker 1: I'm very curious to know you said the oldest woman
- 17:12Speaker 1: to ever give birth for what some reason knew?
- 17:14Speaker 3: What year was it?
- 17:15Speaker 2: Twenty nineteen? Okay, sixty four, Okay, you're wrong, seventy four Okay.
- 17:21Speaker 2: So in September of twenty nineteen, Aramadi Mangama. She was
- 17:26Speaker 2: from India. She holds the world record for the oldest
- 17:30Speaker 2: woman to give birth. She delivered twin girls. She had
- 17:34Speaker 2: them implanted via IVF, but she gave She successfully grew
- 17:39Speaker 2: them in her womb at the age of seventy four
- 17:43Speaker 2: and gave birth to them and they're doing great.
- 17:45Speaker 3: Donor x IVF. She wanted to have.
- 17:49Speaker 1: A baby, she wanted dad.
- 17:51Speaker 3: I don't know about the dad.
- 17:53Speaker 2: I just know she delivered twin girls in September of
- 17:56Speaker 2: twenty nineteen.
- 17:58Speaker 3: Well a donor EG.
- 17:59Speaker 1: But yes, she gave birthday the donor egg, but sperm
- 18:03Speaker 1: from somebody she wanted.
- 18:05Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know the details of her personal life,
- 18:07Speaker 2: but she could also have gotten a sperm donor.
- 18:09Speaker 3: The point being is she.
- 18:11Speaker 2: Was able to successfully carry and give birth to children
- 18:14Speaker 2: at the age of seventy four.
- 18:18Speaker 1: Not advisable, but it's.
- 18:20Speaker 2: Doable, and it's just you know, that's a miracle. But
- 18:22Speaker 2: I started looking at the number of celebrities who had
- 18:25Speaker 2: babies after fifty.
- 18:26Speaker 3: We remember the ones who were close to it.
- 18:28Speaker 2: I think these are all Halle Berry was forty seven,
- 18:32Speaker 2: Laura Lenny was forty nine, Kelly Preston was forty eight.
- 18:35Speaker 2: Those were all, I think, pretty widely celebrated. But Janna Jackson,
- 18:39Speaker 2: I remember she surprised everyone in twenty seventeen gave birth
- 18:44Speaker 2: to her first child at the age of fifty, son
- 18:48Speaker 2: Isa ALMANA.
- 18:50Speaker 1: That's remarkable. I mean I don't remember that necessarily, what
- 18:55Speaker 1: I do, I don't. I mean, what's the I mean,
- 18:58Speaker 1: what were we supposed to say? I mean, it's anything
- 19:01Speaker 1: short of celebrating it is nothing to be said, right.
- 19:03Speaker 2: Yeah. Naomi Campbell was fifty when she announced in twenty
- 19:07Speaker 2: twenty one that she had given birth to her daughter,
- 19:10Speaker 2: Annie Leibovitz.
- 19:11Speaker 3: I didn't know this, gave.
- 19:12Speaker 2: Birth to her first child at fifty two, and then
- 19:15Speaker 2: had twin girls via assarrogate four years later. So she
- 19:19Speaker 2: had twin girls at fifty six. She used asaragate. But
- 19:23Speaker 2: these are famous, powerful, wonderful women Hotocopy. Even here's someone
- 19:28Speaker 2: after fifty. She adopted her daughters, Hailey, Joy and Hope
- 19:32Speaker 2: Catherine at fifty two and at fifty six, so it's
- 19:35Speaker 2: just about she started a family at the age of
- 19:38Speaker 2: fifty two. I think a lot of women would think
- 19:40Speaker 2: there wasn't an opportunity to do so. But Bridget Nielsen,
- 19:43Speaker 2: you remember her fifty four years old, gave birth to
- 19:46Speaker 2: her fifth child in twenty eighteen, So it just there
- 19:50Speaker 2: are more women than I realized. At fifty four, gave
- 19:53Speaker 2: birth to her fifth child, Kristin Davis from Sex and
- 19:57Speaker 2: the City. She adopted her son at age fifty three,
- 20:00Speaker 2: that she doesn't regret a moment for waiting until later
- 20:02Speaker 2: to have her child, and I just think it's cool.
- 20:05Speaker 2: I think it's awesome for women and for families who
- 20:09Speaker 2: have the means and the time and the desire to
- 20:12Speaker 2: be able to show a child love, bring them up,
- 20:15Speaker 2: and it's not this horror story that we hear about
- 20:17Speaker 2: that these children are neglected or that their parents die earlier,
- 20:20Speaker 2: that somehow this is a bad or a negative thing.
- 20:23Speaker 2: In fact, I'm seeing nothing but positivity, and it's just
- 20:26Speaker 2: cool to see Cameron Diaz and her husband Benji be
- 20:31Speaker 2: able to grow their family even at the ages that
- 20:33Speaker 2: they are.
- 20:35Speaker 1: I mean, have means in time, but it's I think
- 20:37Speaker 1: I just love the story that it's giving folks options
- 20:42Speaker 1: and it's showing again it doesn't have to go a
- 20:44Speaker 1: certain way, or a family doesn't have to look a
- 20:46Speaker 1: certain way, the parents don't have to be a certain age,
- 20:49Speaker 1: and we don't even have to have sex to.
- 20:52Speaker 3: Have this baby.
- 20:53Speaker 1: No, I mean, all those things are just technology is
- 20:56Speaker 1: catching up. People are catching up, and I just think
- 20:59Speaker 1: it's a nice drop in the bucket of an evolving
- 21:04Speaker 1: family in America. I love that she said as much
- 21:09Speaker 1: as she had about it, but I love this firm.
- 21:11Speaker 3: Yes, congratulations for them.
- 21:12Speaker 1: I should say, I'm just as more familiar with her,
- 21:14Speaker 1: so I'm sorry, yes, but I'm happy for them.
- 21:19Speaker 2: Cameron Diaz, Benji Madden, congratulation on baby number three, and hey,
- 21:24Speaker 2: this guy's the limit whenever, whenever you're ready. It seems
- 21:28Speaker 2: like science is waiting for you. So this is a
- 21:30Speaker 2: cool story just wanted to share with you and without everyone.
- 21:33Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to us. I'm Amy Roebuck alongside TJ.
- 21:36Speaker 3: Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.