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Vault Tour 2025 Shocking Twists, Meta-Shaking Decks, and Secrets Every KeyForge Player Needs to Know · Archons Corner

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Down at the corner.
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  Speaker 2: Ready, arch.
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: Stories and wisdom.
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  Speaker 2: Of the charge down at the corner.
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: Before you start asking questions.
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  Speaker 3: I want to start to that.
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll start that at certain points. I have nobody
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: to shoot on him this week, so last week I
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: I could shot on Astro. No, I mean, he's still
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: public Enemy number one. But oh I got for your donation, wukie,
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: no problem. I will pay a dollar every time. You know.
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: Last week, Astron says, I don't. I don't have what
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: it takes to understand the matchup. This week, Doctor Sheep goes, well,
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: if you were good at keyforage and then loses the
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: best two out of three with fraud you ready, sheep? Yes?
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: All right? What what's going on? Everybody? I'm the one,
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  Speaker 1: the only the w oh okay I joined here with
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: a normal cast of Mary misfits. We got the one,
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: the only the drazz bar I were married today. Huh yeah,
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: all right, do this? Yep. We got the Ewokist of
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: Ewok's Ewok Jr.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, key Forge community, glad to be here in celebrating
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  Speaker 3: Wookie's expectancy.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. And we got the PhD of key Forge Doctor
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  Speaker 1: m Sheep, Mo, did you move it me. I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I'm sorry to the rest of the world.
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's what I don't think that's what,
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  Speaker 1: Sheep says. Sir h All confused her and I yeap,
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: now I'm super confused. But this week we have our
• 2:04
  Speaker 1: titular segment, why I suck at key Forge? Who's got one?
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  Speaker 1: This week? Sheep?
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  Speaker 2: Ah, I went to a a Star championship in Illinois. Yea,
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  Speaker 2: I brought zero decks. Oops, and it turned out it
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  Speaker 2: was our God, I just assumed it was sealed because
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: everything sealed. Who wants to play ar cock?
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  Speaker 3: But the but the best part is you had just
• 2:36
  Speaker 3: gone ahead and cleaned out your KeyForge bag.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I brought zero decks, so I thankfully Morgan borrowed
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  Speaker 2: me a pretty good deck. But then I got witch
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  Speaker 2: cleaned so it didn't go real far. But yeah, so yes,
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  Speaker 2: that's how I sucked at key Forge. So is my
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  Speaker 2: having thralls discard both battle fleets.
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: He's a little salty today. Watch out people, it's a
• 3:06
  Speaker 1: little salty. He might be throwing houses and buses, but
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  Speaker 1: bus houses bus houses, that's right, houses made from buses.
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  Speaker 1: But what moves us into our next segment, OP News
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  Speaker 1: with doctor m Sheep sheep, what's going on in the
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  Speaker 1: world of op for key Forge?
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  Speaker 3: Nothing is the correct answer, Sheep.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's like we got Vault tours coming up
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  Speaker 2: shortly or in the last weeks of store championships.
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  Speaker 3: Well there there has been a little uprising from the
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  Speaker 3: peasants in regards to it has been a month without
• 3:47
  Speaker 3: news about prophetic visions. So that's not OP I know,
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  Speaker 3: but that's that's been the biggest shout. It's quiet.
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: You know, when was the first Vault tour last year?
• 4:05
  Speaker 1: Was the first Vault tour Roseville last year? Yes? Yep?
• 4:10
  Speaker 1: And when was that? Was that in April? Or was
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: it now early April? I go back and look.
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  Speaker 3: It was April fifth, sixth, and seventh, first week in April.
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  Speaker 1: And by that time we already had uh winds, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: winds of not winds of exchange. We already had gr
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  Speaker 1: in our hands, did we not?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: We did, because I remember was the was was the player?
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  Speaker 1: I remember going to Roseville last year with my really
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  Speaker 1: cool Woe deck that I was all excited about as
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: I got stomped by gr and what well guess that
• 4:52
  Speaker 1: what was done? So The last development update on the
• 4:56
  Speaker 1: game found was February eleventh. That's fine, is it has?
• 5:02
  Speaker 2: Has anybody heard from Jeremy since February eleventh? Who Jeremy?
• 5:08
  Speaker 1: Which one's that?
• 5:10
  Speaker 2: Darcy?
• 5:12
  Speaker 1: Never heard of her?
• 5:14
  Speaker 2: Don't come on marketing the guy at GG who does
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  Speaker 2: the game. Yeah, you mean the marketing manager, the guy
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  Speaker 2: with the little hands.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, now I know what you're talking about. Oh gosh,
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  Speaker 1: now I get it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that guy. I don't know. He's still with
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  Speaker 1: the company.
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  Speaker 2: I know, side of Orbital Tangent Josh. I haven't seen
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: a post or anything from any of them.
• 5:48
  Speaker 1: This is just been all over. Yeah, besides Josh, this
• 5:54
  Speaker 1: is not wrong. I mean Skyjedi did I don't think
• 5:59
  Speaker 1: maybe he did. Do we need to send a wellness
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: check into his house? Did they?
• 6:05
  Speaker 2: Oh? I can't, I can't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Weird Yeah, uh, Sky Jedi? Because uh,
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  Speaker 1: there I opened a deck with a legacy Amber heart
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  Speaker 1: in talk. So it was a legacy coming from Sanctum
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  Speaker 1: into Redemption, and it made the master of all all goofball.
• 6:39
  Speaker 1: According to the master vault, there's only eleven eleven cards
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  Speaker 1: in that house. Uh, and uh, it's all goofball.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, and it turns out you're not the only
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: person with that issue.
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  Speaker 1: Ah wow, So whatever the deck is just you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's the random sealed But but you and D. C.
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  Speaker 3: Tray is both upsets not getting a gigantic in his
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  Speaker 3: guaranteed gigantic.
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: Oh somebody didn't get a gigantic guarantee gigantic.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, there's a handful of those going on.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't this power for the chorus? Weren't we seeing DT
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  Speaker 1: and winds of exchange packaging?
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  Speaker 2: That's not only once?
• 7:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean are there more than one of never mind.
• 7:30
  Speaker 2: These other ones? Yes, there are multiple gigantic reports gigantic.
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: There's multiple of these upload errors that dras Corps just experienced.
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: Clearly that little cell phone ain't doing its job.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that doesn't jack any of that stuff. We haven't
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  Speaker 2: had any duplicate tacks.
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's true, and anything of those in
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  Speaker 1: uh post. Well so that's good. Yeah, what so we
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  Speaker 1: fix that problem and now we have two others you know,
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  Speaker 1: typical it T you it T guys. Any time fix
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  Speaker 1: one problem to mores or eyes, why not? Huh Yeah,
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: that's how that This is the way and I it's
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: enter guys's motto. Job job security is our number one
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  Speaker 1: fix one problem cause to others, Wow, put in a
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  Speaker 1: support ticket. I'll get around to it.
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: Job security can't fix things right, No, you got.
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: A half ascet and just fix it for right now
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: and then we'll figure out what the problem is later on. Right.
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: I just vibe code now, So vibe What is vibe coding? Oh,
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: vibe coding, I've never heard of. Vibe coding is that
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: where you're shiv a chat PT and it does your
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: work for you basically, except now there's there's new idees
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  Speaker 1: that that do it for you. So cursor wind surf
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: like there's a few of them, and and it does
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: like a reasonably okay but actually terrible job. And it
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: is like, if you're just trying to make something random
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: and kind of cool, it's actually really awesome. If you're
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: actually trying to make software that's like good and complicated,
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: it's not there yet, but it is pretty cool. So
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: if you're an engineer and you're not checking the stuff out,
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: you need to because uh, it's gonna be important for
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: your I wonder if I could use chat GPT to
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: fix draw better dot cards. So actually funny story. I
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: actually was like, I was like, let me see if
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: I can vibe code by way to fix draw better
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  Speaker 1: dot Cards. I legit did this, so it was it
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: was pretty awesome initially because I pull it was like
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: I was just like, hey, there's this open source project
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: draw Better Cards, can you go get it? And it
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: like went out and found it and pulled it, installed it.
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it's like I need to set
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: up express all this. So it did all that for me.
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is pretty cool. And then I
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: was like I need a database and uh. It built
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: something and it wasn't right. And then I was like, hey,
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: the tokens are messed up. And it was like, oh, yeah,
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: the tokens are messed up, which is the same place
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: that uh Southerly stuck and uh. And then it was
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: like I know, I'm going to change all this code
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: to try to make it work, and it just started
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: making a mess of the project and I was like, no, no, no,
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: don't do that. You got to fix the actual problem.
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: It was like, oh no, but I did all these things,
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: so I had to redownload all the source and then
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: it tried to do a different thing that was totally wrong.
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: So uh, and then I ran out of tokens. So
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: it's like, you need to upgrade to the Premium Ultra Edition.
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: And I was like, ah shit, so I have my experience.
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: I have the Premium Ultra edition. Think for for for Win.
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: Oh no, chatchept, Yeah, well this is the They're they're similar, right,
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: So I was just what was I using? I think
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: I was using Claude via windsurf. AnyWho, this is not
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: a software podcast, Yes, this is not a software podcast.
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: But if you're looking for updates on drawbetter dot cards,
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: we still don't know where Southerly Elf is. Yeah, it's
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: still broken being an ALF, I don't know. Maybe I
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: should just try to vibe code it from scratch. Maybe
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: that would be worked better. I don't know. Probably we
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: still have all the I think we still have all
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: the old numbers. Well we do. I'm suspicious that the
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: code that is in the repo is not the same
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: version of code that's actually running on the website, like
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: or I don't know, so it's it's it definitely don't work.
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: We'll get it all back together, and by that time
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: key Forge might not even be a game anymore. I
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: don't say that. I won't say it.
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: Well that our time frame to get it working is
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: about thirty five years. Yeah wow, yeah, when Southerly gets
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: to be our agent has time to do it again.
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: So you know, thirty years.
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: What is he doing now.
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: Being freshly married and yeah, having jobs and stone.
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: Married? What do you buy a house?
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: Same thing you did make children?
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: It's overrated? Is that why this episode that the room
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: right now is named what it's named? Maybe as was
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: actually maybe maybe where? What do you call that manifesting?
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: I think is what the manifesting? Manifesting? All of a
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: sudden we'll have little elves roaming around. I mean, I
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: think it's actually called it seminating. But okay, that's that's
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: a different thing. And I don't know if you owe
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: a dollar now, we'll have to check with the officials
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: that scientific. What do you think you want? Because that
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: by you a dollar or okay.
• 12:58
  Speaker 3: Empty C.
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: Fifty Okay, that's not bad, that's not bad. So I yeah, okay,
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: all right, speaking of bothering people from from Ghost Galaxy,
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: drazz my harassing Josh. Yeah, yeah, so you know I'm
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: doing all the cool stuff right We're doing store champs
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: because that's fun. And so you know, we do our
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: sealed event, right, which is of course open three pick one, right,
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: So we do a sealed event, right, cool? Cool cool.
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: And then we do our ARCon event, so play you
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: know arcn coul cool cool. So then we do our
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: Alliance event, which is a total goofball event where we uh,
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: you open a talk and you open a whoe and
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: it's it's alliance. So it's gigs, you know, so you
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: gotta you gotta force the alliance. You must use a
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: deck from excuse me, at least one pod from Well
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: and I want one pod from Talk, and you have
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: to pick one of the tokens, right, So so we knew.
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: I knew I couldn't submit that to Josh because he'd
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: be like, what heck you doing? So so I just
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: told people to pick one of them right when you
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: when you win? Right. So then I go in, I
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: got I got all the info right, go on the site,
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, all right, I'm just gonna start submitting
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: these things right. Well, so we had we had, you know,
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: a bunch of folks having a good time. I'm like, well,
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: I got multiple kids, I'm just gonna submit multiple winners,
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: get it, get people some accolades. It's gonna be great. Now,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: Josh starts pigging me. He's like, what are you doing, fool,
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, accolades per star, yeah, per store, not
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: per kit. Right, So he's like, you to read instructions.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: I was like, yes, that's true.
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: Do you see that I'm part of.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: This a yeah? So so uh So I was like,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: all right, all right, So I went back figured out
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: who actually won, because I actually I took like snaps
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: of the decks, but I was like, wait, who actually,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: like whose deck is this? Uh So I'd go back
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: and figure out who won with what, and so I
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: finally sent it all to them and made him do
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: extra work. So, yeah, there you go, Josh, that's my story.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: I knew better. I also have multiple kids, but did
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: not try to do and try to do that boll shenanigans.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: I walked away for a few minutes. Did you try
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: to give out deck accolades to people who didn't want
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: didn't actually get a deck accolade? Well, I tried to
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: just give out a whole bunch of accolades because because
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: we had multiple kids.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was, he was opening it up accolade, accolate
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: for you, accolade.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: For yeah, okay, because they should be given out more accolades.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: But then, but then Josh was like, now you're a
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: bad person. What accolades? What other accolades could we give out?
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: First? A losing game? First?
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, game, best named deck in March.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Coolest hair style, uh huh, longest hair.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: That's a naughty walk. Alan Ju said, I was going
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: with a joke and the like you know what, I'm
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: not going to do that. I got you, fam I
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: got it because I was like, oh man, I don't
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: have anything to drink. So I was like, well, while
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: dass Cours telling his story, I'll go to the bathroom
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: and grab my soda in my oreos and I come
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: back and up. That's story.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: First to get oreos on a cast.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: These are double stuff or just like classic, these arerios. No, no, listen,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: dog they're fire. They are fire fire, So there they
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: go real well with flaming hot mountain dew. Yeah they
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I got my flaming hot mountain dew myrios. We had
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: a movie night last night and we watched dog Man,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: which is my son's favorite uh like it was his
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: favorite book growing up a dog man. Now there's a movie,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: so we had to watch it. Right, So we got
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: snacks and it is a perus and I seemrios. I'm like,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I like s'mores, I like oreos. We're gonna try this,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: and they are they are fire fire, They're good fire, dude,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: they are they're what they're they're vanilla cookies. And then
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: they got chocolate in like marshmallow on the inside. Oh
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: ah hmm. That we're going to be a skinny man. Anyways,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: So going into the purpose of this episode, what to
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: expect when you're expecting, I'm told that's a terrible name,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: but yes, I'm expecting. Since we had such a fantastic
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: game found.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: You did not have enough pause.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Since we had such a such a rockstar game found, right,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: we got loads of new players coming to vault to us,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: right right.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Loads of and they're listening to this cast.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: They all listen to this cast. So we are going
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: to go over Well, it started out top ten and
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: now it looks like about thirty or so.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: No, oh gosh, shop every card he watchs ever.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Heard only tell of them are number that it's let's
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: just continues. Therefore, no, I see.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: It is not true. Actually read what's there?
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Instead of underlining it like a new thing, he put
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: three stars in front of it. I did not I
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: did not get that.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: So we are going Sorry, I did not press enter
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: for you.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I mean it's it's I'm a visual learner, right, you
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: got to teach me different than normal. So we are
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: going with the top ten things to look for right
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: when you are playing against and these are kind of
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: your top ten archetypes that we have seen the most types.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: They kind of are not archetypes. What would you call it? Then?
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Give me a better word. Well, I would say this,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: right if you're a new player or not, Like, if
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: you're just going in and you're like, hey, what are
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: a few things that I'm looking at my opponent's arc
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: on card that you need to pay attention to?
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: And obviously you know there's there's the matchup right, oh,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: based on what you have. But but we're talking just
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: more generally. More generally, you've got to be looking out
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: in this meta for certain things to know if you
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: gotta gotta react, gotta change what you might be doing
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: in your gameplay. So that's that's what I think that
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I'm just happy we're almost to a best out of three,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Like we've all we've cut this game down time wise,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: it could almost be a best out of three almost.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: We're not quite there yet, we're getting there. But right
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: on the top of the list wind Cut, Winds of Death,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: key abduction obviously a big thing you need to look
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: out for because it is going to come and rock
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: your world. Sheep, how did wind cut? How did wind
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Cut touch your life recently?
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: The deck that I put an accolade on and after
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: telling you all the times is a good deck, you
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: decided to play it, and hey, it turns out it's
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: a good deck.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: That deck mm hmm, Yeah, that's the one.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew it was good. I took it and
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: won a store championship with it.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: You did. It's a wins the Death double key abduction
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: that can basically forge two keys for free. Plus Is
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: this the one that that Morgan let you when you
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: show up without a deck? Or no? This is what? No,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: this is one of the decks that sheep. He hit
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: me over the back of the so at KFC. She
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: hit me real hard and I blacked out for like
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: three hours and he just mugged me for all the
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: good decks. That's one of the of those.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, you don't play key Forge except at major events,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: so like it's not like you need the decks.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I mean I play with you on a weekly basis
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: more or less. Yeah, but we play Sealed more more
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: times than not. Yes, we play Sealed the correct way
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: to play key Forge, right, No, But anyways, it's a
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: wins to death double key abduction. I don't remember if
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I used all of my key sheets. It also has
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: an ECDO charge that it can use. Yeah, that it's
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: a target doesn't No, it does.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Not have a target. It does not have a rebel.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: It's real control is real, real, weird. But what's actually
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: in the deck. It only has one Boo, one in
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: here Somewhere, and one junk Restoration and two UFOs. So
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: it's very delicate to you play a UFO or you
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: have to play the boo, or you play the Boo
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: without having the in here somewhere and you discard the
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: in here somewhere and the winds of death and and
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: and then you're like, ah, this is gonna be a
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: really hard game.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Now, and now you got to try to flip background.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: It does have double moments with discard pips, so that's
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: really good for helping set up the Mars turn and
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: not having to play it early. Yeah, with the key abductions.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: It has cool things, but it's like it's real Amber
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: control is one hypnotic command, which it only has four
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Mars creatures and one what's the other one that's like
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: hypnotic command, but it's only for ready creatures.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Psychic network.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, psychic networks that one, Yeah, which you're you
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: don't have the rebel, so your Mars creatures are almost
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: never ready.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: It does have a eyes too, Yeah, it's.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: It's got a few things, but it's not a strongly
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: amber controlly deck no. Yeah, and it really only it
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: only has like twelve or thirteen creatures too, so even
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: like you basically have to be at the bottom of
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: your deck when you hit the winds to set up
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: the key abduct.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: However, it does have two modular exoskeletons a singing scythe
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: so you can return basically three cards or your discard
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: pile to your hand if you are about to key abduct.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: That's kind of handy. It is handy, Yeah, that's handy.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: It's kind of fun. Sorry, winka free key right, when's
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: a death key abduction you get, you gotta be on
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the lookout for that. The super combo. But I think
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: if you're going into a vault and uh with winds
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: of death at common, there are so many gr decks,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: you gotta look for winds of death just in of itself,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: regardless if they have key abduction or not, because you know,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: if you're you gotta in that case be looking at
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: how thick is my discard pile? How thick is my
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: opponent's discard pile? Right, if they're dumping cards and you
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: you know, you're just calling a new house and boarding
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: up and they're just dumping cards into discard, they're going
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: to hit you with wins of death are kind of
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: a ton of creatures, and you're going to be without
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: a board. So you have to you have to sort
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: of keep up with with what's in your discard, or
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: you have some other means to apply a lot of pressure.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so Dre as you're talking, it can definitely be
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: a tempo card and so on the opposite side, what
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: you have to remember is that if you're ready to
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: flip and your opponent has not played their wins of Death.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Yet that's also something to be aware of, especially if
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: you're building this big board. If you're out boarding them,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: they haven't played their Winds of Death and you're flipping.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: That's a really really bad sign to me. So some
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: of those plays are tempo plays that you want to
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: watch out for.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: All right. Number two on our list the Mars Shenanigans,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Doctor X and Rebel. Also, I would add into this
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: target Target is also a part of the marses.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Zip, the implanters off plants.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's a few variations, right, Often's basically that's
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the big one is that in prolifer if you have proliferators,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: you know, allows you to archive cards, which gets crazy.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: So lots of Marsh Shenanigans. No, I don't know how
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: to beat Mars Shenanigans yet, I think it's one. I
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: think it's one of the things later on in this list.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, purge, so you can purge.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: You can go ahead for you.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: You can purge, you can go ahead and use it.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: You can go ahead and uh utilize a decrease in
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: power for the creatures. You can also have them come
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: in where they're enraged. So like there are lines you
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: just don't typically see them as being ARCon viable as
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: often is.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I like that Atlantis puts the common cold in uh
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: in the Chat, which is a card that we haven't
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: seen since Coda. Uh. That's a GR the common called
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: the GR. Pretty sure, I'm gonna I'm gonna click on
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: the ark on Is it really?
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a A G and g R so
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: all three sets. Actually it actually on it.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I mean it does destroy each Mars creature, So what
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I think is wins for them.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: But you know, yeah, what I think is interesting about
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: the Mars Shenanigans and and I yes there are other components,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: but it's really Doctor X and rebel. Putting creatures out
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: where rebel can fight really allows that rebel Doctor X
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: to continue, And so that has to be a thought processes.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: How often can it go ahead and go off? Is
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: it better sometimes to not play creatures? It depends on
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: where you are, a lot of these are very situational.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: But just be aware of it is definitely something. I
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: see it on the arc on card and it's across
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: from me. Knowing that it's there. Sometimes I can deal
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: with it, sometimes I can't, but be aware, all.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Right, Next the other if they don't have the key
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: abduction scaling, ember control can be a good counter, right
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: because well, I guess we'll go with them, because that
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: that is on our list, is it not? Oh yeah,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I know it's in here somewhere.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: It's it's shown as number five.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: That's also yeah, that's also in here, also in here.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: But yeah, steel is a big thing right now. Obviously,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: keep your eyes out if you are going up against
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: anything Skyborne. I guess the assumption. I mean, I don't
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: even need to look at your look at your card
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: and go, yeah, you probably got multiple red lines and
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: against all flags. Katina Fiend obviously another one right now
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: that is pretty hot, hot hot. Everybody loves the six
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: power Katina feed puts a nice big body on board
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: and allows you to steal. Uh is it steel for
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Katina or lose? It's my style.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a fight again, yeah, Katina. So what's interesting
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: is I do think Skyborne is your your line. We
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: did have TMTP in here, but frankly outside is some
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: very very upper echelon coda decks. I'm not really or VM,
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: but like, yeah, VM is probably a little bit more
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: than where we're seeing. For some of CODA. You're just
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: not seeing TMTP anymore. So that's it's interesting. It's something
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: to watch out for. But that large scaling steel is
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: extremely important. But red line has definitely come in. I
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: mean red line, double red line, those are great against
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: all flags. Uh. Basically as we are as we are
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: coming into the show for tonight, I believe we were
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: playing against uh a deck that had multiple against all flags, like.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Against all flags and a red line.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: So it's that's a steely house and that's real good.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: So steel has not really changed. Definitely something to be
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: aware of.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, I just cannot believe how much Skyborne
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: feels like Shadows did. It's like actions good creatures bad.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's always a couple of creatures that are fine,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: but in general, actions good creature's bad. And that's exactly
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: how Skyborne are now. I mean, just like old Shadow.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, quite a few houses are like that.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, yeah, yeah, right, what have we gotten next?
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: What have we gotten next? Archive hate? Another fun thing
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: that's going around clipped wings p k E Designia.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: I don't actually put clipped wings in the archive category
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: that that much. I think it's only good against winds
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: of death other forms of archive, so they shuffle them in.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: You're not actually losing the cards, they're just kind of
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: concentrating your deck. It's not.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so as.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Critical clipped Wings, Disaction, Amber, pip play, choose one per
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: J random card from your opponent's hand, or shuffle your
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: opponent's archives into their deck. So the shuffling you don't
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: really care about as much as your argument. That's interesting.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I mean it, Yeah, this hasn't been as devastating to
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: an archive deck as I had thought it might be.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's still inconvenient, but but yeah, you do.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: You do still get those cards, so yeah, if you
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: got a big mix of stuff, like I said, when's
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: the death So yeah, you said that already. The it's
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: it's helpful there, but otherwise yeah, it's I mean, you
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: still do it right, You still target the opponent's archives,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: but it's not devastating.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: So that's interesting. I mean, do you see that your
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: recursion is just too powerful an aria? And it's because
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: you have multiple in here somewheres, whereas if you only
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: are looking at two, potentially you're hitting both of them.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: So because you will see people who will cycle them.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, I mean cycling them. But then if
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: you've got to if it's if you if you have
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: idea and they shuffle it right, and then it's like, okay,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: well I'm just gonna draw a bunch of geist cards. Again,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: not as convenient, but but not not awful. The real
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: ember or archive disruptor. There is designia gaining the ember
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: for all the cards.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: That, yeah, you're just not seeing a ton.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Of of it is. Yeah, I see it as much.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: I think that the same thing will actually fall for Geistoid.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: So pke uh Siphonator two power specter uh spector creature
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: from Geistoid play gain one for each card in your
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: opponent's archives. Your opponent discards each card in their archives.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: So again there's still the ambergain, and I think that
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: is something to be aware. But it does fall at
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: a rare slot.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Again, Yeah, I mean you're still gonna see it. I
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: mean these are small. The thing that it's kind of
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: driving me nutstry is especially talk is a small set.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: So these cards are popping up more and more and
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: more and more and more, right Like, I'm seeing a
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: ton and it's really the only decks I'm seeing with
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Skyborne that are being successful. Have all the steel they've got,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: you know, just and again obviously we determined way back
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: when and coda, that's still real good. And then they
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: kind of went away from it and they did everything
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: in their power to make sure like steal kind of
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: it was there, but it wasn't as much, and it
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: was kind of a you know, I want to say
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: little right, like there's maybe a steel here is still there. Right,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: you did have some cards that were like, oh, you know,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: who am I thinking of not shoulder it, but uh
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: reach four key, your opponent has forged to steal a
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: number bone thing, boney thing, thank you. But it was
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: kind of like reeled in a lot. And then all
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: of a sudden Skyborn came out and they're like, oh,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: we're just going to release a bunch of steel cards again.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: And then in Tack they released even more. I don't know,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: kind of crazy, kind of irritates me. Steel was a
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Shadows thing. Give it back to Shadows. That's a that's
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: kind of a Laura thing that irritates me, called dibbs.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Nobody else could be that lot. I mean, I mean,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: but there's time. I mean other houses have had some steel, right, so.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Sure, I mean pirates, pirates steel, Yeah, get your own gimmick.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Well they move around the battlefield. Yeah, and that's your gimmicking.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Garbage is your gimmick. I mean, that's my fault. All
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: I'm saying is like we have a house that had
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: that gimmick. Give them their gimmick back. It's like they
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: took it away and they're like, oh, here you go.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: That gimmick's good. It went elsewhere.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: You can do it better and with less restrictions. Here
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: you go.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: I just think, I don't know how much of pKa
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: have you guys really seen, like can hit, But the
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: problem is it's amber Sky's and it's Geistoid, and the
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: creatures consistently and Geistoid and amber Sky's are not necessarily
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: what I want to see. There's there's a few that
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: we can hit, but again, you.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Want all the creatures in Geistoid that were from g R.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: That's kind of that kind of funneled over.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: And then p K.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and and maybe uh what is it? Parabyte? The
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: computer makes.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: It okay for yeah, a little bit, just a little bit.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: I mean the right situation could be quite good, but yeah,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: you need some support because it's on two power. You know,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: so yeah, next up recursion things you need to be
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: aware of for recursion.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: A recursion is just so strong right now, Well, and
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: you put you put like the two, I think like
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: the three.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Well it's so hold on shard of icky arise and
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: retro lee. Okay, yes, but.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Then everything else is all geid.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Here we memory Misfit Toys is a card that Actually,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I'm going to point out one card
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: that really needed a emergency errata, I think it's that
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: one is busted.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Island to Misfit Toys artifacts uh geisoid location action.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Return each guyst to a card from your discard pile
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: to your hand, Purge Island of miss it Toys.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: And then if you get a well of memory too,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: you can get your Island a Misfit Toys back. Yeah,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: there you go, giving ups for losers. Wait no, no
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: the wait wait wait wait hold on, it purges itself.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Well does doesn't know the island does the island? But well,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: a memory allows you to get it back.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: No, well, a memory is artifact again, we got read
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: cards here, wookie, well of memory artifact geistoid play Purge
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: any number of cards from your hand. For each card
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: purge this way, return a card from your discard pile
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: to your hand action destroy well of memory.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Well and hold on? Hold on? What kind am I
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: thinking of them? I thought it was well a memory.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I think it's another rare. The one allows you to
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: take a card back from your from your purge pile.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Does No, it's in geistoit and it was in.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: G r.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Oh. The is that the two power? Dude? When you
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: read no, it's another, it's another. It is another? Uh
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: the parageist para poltergeistoids? Is that it? I don't know. Yeah,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I think so. I'm trying to think. Because interesting I
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: just opened up our kan ar Kana and it says
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: type thirty eighth card. Huh, yeah, you heard me right? Oh?
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Is that because we're getting too yeah to uh prophecy
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: prophecies there it is, that's the card. That's the word.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I was looking for two prophecies. And the next thing,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: uh do.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Is now our skinny little duck box is designed for
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: thirty six cards or thirty seven work? Because now I
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: got like thirty nine guards.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: It is a problem for the sealed ones, right. I
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: think the un are the sleep the sleeved ones. I
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: think the unsleeved. It's probably still fine. Are fine? Like
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: the room out of uh that come from from uh
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Burgo tokens. Yeah, if you use dragon shield like, they
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: are so tight in there, like it does not make
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: me feel comfortable. So I've started getting forty threes because.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: How tight you feel uncomfortable?
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what she said. Poltergeist it is Pultergeistid.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Poltergeistoy's being another rare Geistoid action. Play purgec card
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: from a discard pile. If you do play a creature
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: or artifact from your purge zone as if it were
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: in your hands attached, poltergeistays too. It doesn't upgrade with
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: the text. This card belongs to house Geistoid Poltergeistoid's but
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: other cards as you have gotten there too.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, other cards you have on air for recursion. I
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: don't know if I consider jet restoration recursion, but in
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: here somewhere.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: It's efficiency like this, so that that isn't necessarily recursion,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: but it's in hand. You're going ahead and getting efficiency
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: out of it, which is crazy because we used to
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: see logos is very much your efficiency, and now efficiency
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: is coming more from your chars. Broyd's your chardaviki. You
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: have junk restoration in here somewhere.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Why isn't every time I get a favorite house, they're
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: like that too powerful, take it away just because you're
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: a dirty power gamer because I'm a degenerate. Yes, yep,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: that makes sense. All makes sense. You just have to
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: love logos, and then I refuse to love logos. They
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: just makeper houses good, right, the immune to nerving.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so the real question is after the first bolt,
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: how many of our top eight arcun decks will have
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: geis and how many will have logos.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Oh see, here's the issue of them will have one
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: of those?
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, I agree with that.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, I agree with that point as well.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Maybe one deck shows up that doesn't.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Have them, but I don't think so the top there are.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, there is still the possibility. We haven't touched it,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: but there's still possibility now because that has guistoid's. So
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: there's a possibility of the the equed Ard enhanced being
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: good enough, but probably not without also the geistoid charred.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so I think we get six geistoid three logos,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: which means one with both.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: That sounds like a lot of cream to take care
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: of that problem.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Out of one out of talk.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: All right, say it again. I'm writing this in paper here.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: What do we what are we doing? You want? Actually, well,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: I'm saying six, there's gonna be six guys to it
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: in the top eight, and which one Roosevelt or Rochester?
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Rochester it's gonna be the first one, yeah, Roger. I'm
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: gonna say six geisty decks in the top eight and
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: three logos, which means there's gonna be one deck that's
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: got both guys and logos, okay, coming from talk, Hm,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: I guess it could be or Amber Skies. I guess right.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: So maybe it's actually got to be a little more.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's gonna be four logos and six guys to it. Yeah,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: four logos or logos, six guys to it? That seems high.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I will lie to no one. I really want to
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: say it's it's more going to be you said top eight, right,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Yes I did, sir. I'm gonna say I want to
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: say six and two. Okay, six six guys, toy two logos.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: I think you'll have didn't say more?
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: No, he said six and four two overlaps.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, two overlap. Yeah, I don't think you're going to
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: have much overlap there because I think the the two
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: decks that are going to have it that are either
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: going to be from Talk or ember Skies is going
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: to it's going to have logos in it, but it's
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: going to have like some busted Skyborn bs where just yeah,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: it's going to have that double double double double, and
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: you're just it's just steel steel steel steel steel. I'm
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: actually curious, when is it? When did they finish this week?
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: And last week in final? I don't even know where
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: we are Final Refrain isn't in the final the top four, Okay,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm really I'm really interested to see where
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Lorenzo's deck goes. That's why when I'm looking at that
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: up this week with Cat Marrow having the double mimicry
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: and we'll get into memoicry in a little bit.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: Right cheap, what are you rolling with for your Rochester?
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Eight Brobnard decks got it.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Zero zero zero.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Glad to see her take this seriously, like everything in life,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to go through that recap and Sheep
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: was way off, but eight no, no, I mean, I'm I'm.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: With the eyes. I think it's like almost purely will
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: be logos and Geisto. The actual guess, I don't know,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: but it will be there will be lots of them.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Now, the real question do they do anything about it?
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: What?
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: What are they possibly gonna do? I don't know. I
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: feel like every time we have a vault to her right,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: the first vault of the year, first and second vault,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: we come into cards that are real big problems. Right
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: last year was Wins. Everybody complained a well, actually before
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: it even happened, it was Ecto, and then it was Wins,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: and well they did something with Ecto. They basically changed
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: it back how to or how was originally was. They
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: didn't do anything with Wins, So, I mean they did
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: make a change pretty close to game time on Ecto.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: The question of like, are they do they make a snap?
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Do they make that snap judgment We're like, we gotta
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: do something about this and erata something or do they
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: just go leave it alone? My guess is leave it alone.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: But they're gonna leave it alone.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: That's my guess too, because yeah, yeah, I don't think
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: they're gonna immediately attack, all right, So I just went
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: back to the last vaultaur not you know, not worse. Well, no,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't go back to worlds on purpose. I want
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: to Las Vegas because it's like that's maybe more similar. Right,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: You're not, You're not getting as many international folks, right,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: So how many? So there was no Amber Skies, no right,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: no talk. So how many of the top eight do
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: you guys think had GR and how many had logos? Vegas?
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Was it gr had guys stories? I'm trying to say
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: I had geistoid and how many had logos when you
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: went back to Vegas? Right? Yep? Didn't like all But
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: let's see, I'm almost positive fraud made top eight in Vegas,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: so like seven, I wasn't piloting it, so like seven
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: because I think would have been the only non GR
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: deck that might have made top eight. Mm hmm, yep,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: you got it right. So there was pig fraud piloted
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: by math and love with logos, and all the other
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: decks had Geistoid.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: I think geist is still going to show up, but
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: I think that I think I think disc going ahead
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: and showing up in talk and going ahead and playing
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: its part in Amber Skies, I think both can definitely
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: keep geisoid and logos from showing up as a complete dominant.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: We'll see. But I do you think that there are
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: some lines where you can actually have.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: See But the problem is like your talk is fined.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: But like talk is, I feel talk is very much
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: like old school coda. It's so hit and miss right.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: You either get a monster or fair. But you either
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: get a monster or you get dumpster fire. Right. It's
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: either this unbelievable, oh my gosh, greatest thick of all time,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: or it's like I could throw this in the trash
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: bend now and no one would be any of the wiser?
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Is that just mem I the only one who has
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: that feeling? I know, ewok, you're gonna tell me no, No,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I'm wrong.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: No. I think that talk is overrated, I think on
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: SaaS especially, But I do think that there's some really
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: solid cards there. The question is going to come back
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: with tokens in Either are winds of exchange or tokens
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: have changed. You have to look at how you're going
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: to recur them. If you have ways to pull back
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: your key cards, then you mitigate going ahead and just
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: spamming tokens out. If you don't, then you're playing luck
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: of the draw, and luck of the draw consistent across
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: the tournament. Isn't going to be there.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Sure interesting, all right, we got all our predictions down.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Sheep says eight Brobnard deck eight. I'm gonna shit a
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: brick if it all of a sudden comes back. There
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: are eight Brobnard decks that make it.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we all would if more than two
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: brobar decks make it, we would probably be surprised.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Brobner number seven on our list. Brick Nasty
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: fighting beanstalk.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: It's still something is a thing. You need to be
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: aware of it. You need to be able to see
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: if they can control the board. I mean, we saw
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Astront's top four dock from Worlds and it can still
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: do things. It went ahead and was successful in taking
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: me out for final refrain. So I definitely think that
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: there are lines there that can be taken. But being
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: stock bringing in your giants and then being able to
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: they come in ready and you can search for them
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: is really good. Brick Nasty where I can fight and
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: gain amber. I'm using it for c plus going out
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: in Amber generation.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Yes please, So moral of the story, be wary of
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: any Vietnamese decks basically always. But yeah, and I thought
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: we were all under the same conclusion that all decks
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: had to be in English. I guess that's also not
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: a thing archives. Yeah, so your deck does not have
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: to be I could have swere one time they said,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: starting this year, your deck needed to be in the
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Country of Origins language. Well what they I think what
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: they said was it has to be in a language
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: that the tournament organizer deems as an okay language. So
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: they'll forget to tell us, well, that's what languages are okay,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: which means that every language will be okay. Well that's right,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: but that's what it says right now, is that the
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: tournament organizer will tell you what languages are okay. We're
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: less than a month away from Rochester and they haven't
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: said anything, right, So if somebody's got to order a
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: like a copy in a different language, they got to
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: let us know asap. Otherwise people are still thinking they're
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: taking a foreign language variant and haven't gotten the English.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: What do we think is actually going to get surprised
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: with this? I mean it sounds like something that will keep.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Most people don't even like playing on English decks if
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: they're English. No.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I got my foreign language deck in English, and I
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: just it's just Cindy got just in case. You know,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: there's three and a half people for Alliance and I
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: want an automatic Top four. I had her order these
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: decks that English do just so I go play Alliance
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: just in case. But we'll talk about that in a
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: little bit, because that's another point of contention that we
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: still don't know that we've been told one thing, and
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: we'll see if that holds true. You're going to You're
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: going to Rochester, Rochester draftscour is going to Rochester, right yep. Yeah,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: So you'll have to let us moment. The only one
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: I'm missing is Portland because there's a I now have
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: a wedding to go to then. So but I think
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: you're the only one going to all of them this year.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I think the rest of
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: us are going to Roads. The rest of us are
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: going to Roseville and calling her today Vegas. I'm I'm
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: not going to Vegas.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: I gotta go to Florida.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: That week. Weird story the Roosevel Vault tours on my
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: wedding anniversary. There you go, So yeah, we'll.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Be having fun. Yeah, Well send pictures to the light.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: You can watch me on stream. There you go.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: You can you can you guys can do something afterwards.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: That's what I said before or after I have.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: To go for training on my birthday.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Yay, that's a little different. But anyways, moving forward, one
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: of the things that we keep talking about. But I
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's really crept up as much as
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: I we thought it was going to be a thing.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Cole brows ar Combo the lock out. I feel like
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: it's a thing. I just don't know if it's popped
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: up enough. I mean, it obviously still has to be
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: a thing you're aware of, right, I.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: Mean, Bandola is still a thing, right, So.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: But is Bandola winning via Lockout? I mean I haven't
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: watched any I.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: Can tell you I still have PTSD from last last year.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say still have PTSD from two years ago.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: No, this is from this, Like culp Rio, is definitely
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: something that if you see across from you and there's
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: ways to taunt it, you better be able to think
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: about it. Otherwise you're just done. Yes, this is on
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: the list of to watch out for. Yeah, it's it's brutal, Yes.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: I will agree. Like it is a thing that, like
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: you don't want to get caught off guard and all
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's like cult brio and you're like,
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: oh shit, that's not good. Better brings something that.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: I think well, And the other answer here is is
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: when COLP hits the board and you go, well, I
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: have a better efficiency turn or something where I ignore
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: the coup for a turn. Don't ignore the coup for
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: a turn because the next turn they could taunt it,
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: ward it something, and all of a sudden, now you
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: have no solution for killing the COLP. So when you
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: get a chance to kill a coup, kill the it
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: is it is the number one witchiest witch.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: It is which status it is a it is a
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: honorary witch status card. Kill the colt uh next card?
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Special cards you put on here an arcandometer and witch queen. Yes,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: I mean arkinometer is just so brutal.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you only really have to worry about
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: it when it's enhanced. And then two thirds of their
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: they have like automatic power amber control, like the only
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: thing that's beating that is martiananigans or perhaps Brobnar with
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: a bunch of riots.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like a board situation because even the marsh Now
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: you can normally replaying cards, right, so you're.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but if every time you play, you get two reefs,
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: you are netting.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: Amber yes, or if you have the board and you
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: can reap out so Arcanometer being your logos artifacts with
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: enhanced two logo spips action during your opponent's next turn.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Each time they play a card, they lose one. So
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: if you're playing a card you're automatically losing. You have
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: to be generating more than one a turn, which is
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: where the arguments coming from. I think there's some items
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: that can do it, but this, this slows you up.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: If you don't have hard ARC, it can be brutal
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: to play against Arkinometer, especially if they have c so
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: like you can't establish board it is. It is a brutal,
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: not fun card to play against.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: So but if you okay so things, it's things to
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: watch out for. But what if you don't have hard
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: R what do you do about it?
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Hope you have board. You have to reconsider what your
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: typical plan is and figure out how you bored up
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: and reap.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: I do think this card could change the meta. Right
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: if we see a couple dominant archanometer decks like, people
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: may have to reconsider not bringing R or might have
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: to reconsider.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: How many how many just in your practice games and
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: what you're playing. How many people have.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: I've played against them. I've played against them at ARCon
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Store Champs, Yep a few times already.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: I think part of it is maybe it's just what
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: it is painful to play against, so I have an
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: outsized memory of that versus other things that I've lost
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: to so or one against. Right, Like, it's kind of like.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: It's opening your twenty six creature deck and then they
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: play quixtilsto on I turned one, and you're just like,
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: I it's that brutal of a feeling a card sometimes.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, it isn't Ember Skies. We don't know what
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: we'll be playing and sealed, but I'm assuming it will
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: be Ember Skies.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that one looks like the first event looks like
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: it's Amber Skies.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Oh man, that's gonna be weird if all of a
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: sudden it goes Ember Skies and then switches to Prophetic Visions.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's almost certainly what it's going to do.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean we were talking, we were talking
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: that there will be a delay based on fourteen days. Yeah,
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: well but it's fourteen days once being added.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: To added to the tournament legality list, yes, t.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Which they said they got on until the twelfth the
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: next month to get it on there correct, which means well,
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: except there is a rule in there that says unless
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: otherwise noted. Yeah, so it could be just like, oh,
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: we forgot well it's legal, deal with it.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or they'll just do it for seals or something
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: for fun. Yeah, for fun, That's that's why they do it.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Well for funds.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Fine, I'm just that's what I'm waiting for, because I
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: didn't know there was a list of legal sets. And
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: I thought as soon as the set was released, or
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: at least maybe that was the old rule, as soon
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: as the set was released, it was available for play.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: That's yeah. That was until they that's that was the rule. Well,
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: Orbital was saying, check the the tournament rules, and everybody's like, dude,
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: it's not out in tournaments. Really. He's like why because
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: it kept not getting added to the tournament rules. And yes,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: now it is in the tournament rules outset legality. It
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: was added last year.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: I was just added this last one that was January.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: We added this year.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: All right, this one veil, raise you walk. This is
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: this one. This one is one that gives me a
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: little bit of PTSD.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: Sure, what's happening with it?
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: Well, I know all about Veil, and boy is that
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: a pain in the butt? Was that capture one for eachard.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: Reach without the sreptacular rays? It's only a good stall card.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Yes, and no, I mean ray Vail is what basically
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: beat me in Nationals because you dump them all in
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: the discard you raise?
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: Are that you need the the cress specular raise?
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, well that's yeah.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: I actually think it's the crap raise is more of
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: the problem than Veil. Is the card. You gotta watch
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: out if you see a crap raise, you need to
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: be really looking at what else they're doing and preventing
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: them from stacking amper.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Oops, I just clicked on the wrong thing.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: And not make a goofy move and exile something to them. Yeah,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: so the.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: Two cards, shall we actually talk about them? Veil of
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: actoplasm geistoid action play for each guys street card in
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: your discard, pile of friendly creature captures one that was
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: the first one, and then.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: The crap raise is choose a friendly creature, move each
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: ember from that creature to your pool just or that creature.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: And so if you can stack it, and there's a
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: couple different ways to be able to do that, but
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: the easy one being in a house with veil, so
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: capture and then boom, I kill it and I just
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: took all of your amber. Thank you, repeat mm hmm.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: It is a very awkward steel, but a steel basically nonetheless,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: And then you get on here pipped house cards, So
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming you're you're meaning house pip enhanced cards.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that with a new set for Amber skies,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: it is definitely something to watch out for, whether that's
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: your archonometer, but there's some really really funny shenanigans that
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: can be pulled off with house enhanced pips. Even just
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: lining up on some of the Mars creatures, you can
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: really arise into a very very very large Mars turn.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: So there's a whole lot that can be done with it.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think when you see an ember Sky's
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: deck come in at at high, high level, not always,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: but often it's because there's some interesting thing that they're
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: able to do that they wouldn't normally be able to
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: do because of the because of the house enhancement. So
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: now the trick here is you get that ARCon cards
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: slid across from you. You can't tell the difference between
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: a capture PIP and a house enhancement pip. No, it's
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: just blueast them or you can you can pop open
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: the master vault and take a look and that you know,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: that's a thing we might have to get in the
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: habit of right like I don't. So now there's the questions.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: Didn't ask because in the in the in the okay,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: So it's it's weird because they did put it in
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: the new tournament rules and regulations that you are not
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: allowed to use any external websites and only judges are. Yeah,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: no deal. Okay, Well it says external website, so you're
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: not allowed to use. It's not how it's worded. Not
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: how it's worded.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: They know because you can use, you can use.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: That's what they're trying to say, with external meaning, not
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: outside of it. No, d okay, guys, I'm just saying,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: with the way they worded it, someone can make the.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: Right in the tournament software. I understand, I understand. I
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: don't know why you're yelling at me because something that
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: isn't a real thing.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: I realize what they're gonna say is, well, that's not
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: what we meant, and we'll probably all move on from there.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: But with the way you all have moved on, All right, sheep,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: sounds good, We've all moved on. So we want to
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: talk about some cards from the past and seeing how
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: they stack up today. First on the first on the list, mimicry.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: I believe this card is at an all time high
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: or on the wants list. I mean as cards improve,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: this card improves, right, and cards have gotten better. Therefore
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: this card has gotten better in arcan it's sealed too,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: but in our.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: And as a result of it's a fact I get
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: to go ahead and choose your best action. Yes, please line,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: but that's I.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: Think sheep found what I was exactly hitting go ahead.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: I think the chance to be able to go ahead
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: and recur or bring back. Okay, you can red line,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: but if I can counter your red line, then it's
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: a game of do we both have it? Do I
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: have a con or to your counter? And that's where
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: there's some thought process. But mimicry is real good.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: Next on the list, ig Well, yeah, I mean ig right.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: It's in sets that you don't see a ton of
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: now or't he plays much? So for that reason, I
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: think it's not sheep. How is IG treating you over there?
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: In fraud?
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: It's a card one in every fifteen games. It actually
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: gets any amber, really yeap.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: I got a good amount of number when I played
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: it at Nationals. People knew I was there and tried
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: to play around it. But unfortunately, like sometimes, you just
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: gotta let your deck have it and say if you
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: got it, you got it. And more times than not,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: I did have of it. So I guess that's the thing.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised you don't get that much too.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: I never have it.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I never, Uh, I never. I I got
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: a lot. Maybe you just results may vary. I guess, I.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: Don't know. Outside of fraud, how often have you guys
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: seen I g And I think that's just not very It's.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: Not printed in a lot of these sets, so you're
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: I think you're just not seeing it. And there's a lot.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you're.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: Hang yeah, great scaling it just isn't there.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: Right, I can't can't hang key sheets. So we're talking, well, okay,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: so you have spooky charge even on here. I mean,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: obviously we just talk about key abduction. Still going to
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: be around ecto charge Ecto charge, I don't.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: Don't see so that the comment that was there is
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: key cheats the sets that are presently in meta.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: Right, So you're talking just so Ecto charge ato and.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: Key abduction are definitely relevant with the sets, but outside
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: of that and spooky like what other our key cheats. Yes,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: we always want to have a key cheat. We can
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: go ahead and turn it in for a key. But
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: I just the world's open. It's the open. At Worlds,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: the winning arc on deck had Impearing in charge and
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: it was Reiku was pretty good at fireing that. Then
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: there's also Amber Drakes right now, they're kind of one.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: They have not panned out the way I think we
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: all thought they were there. I mean I got at
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Worlds the open, right, not not the but it's open.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: So I brought an Amber Drake deck that was top four.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: I know a Amber Drake alliance got top eight. I
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: don't know if Jony got farther than that. Jony X
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: brought that right and there was I I think we're
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: gonna see I think we're gonna see some Amber Drake stuff.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: I have not seen much Ember Drake stuff, but I
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't refrain. I don't think he had
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: a single Ember Drake in it. Well yeah, I mean
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: it was gr so maybe maybe maybe just because gr
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: is gr uh all right, corner of the market. This
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: is one that a lot of people are playing around with.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah, this feels more like only yeah, it's
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: only super meaningful because of things like Morgan Stak where
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: you can get cross enhanced archiving cards where you can
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: loop play this, and it does exist in our conducks.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: But I don't I haven't seen enough of this to
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: say it's an ARCon scare, but it's definitely something to
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: look for. If you see an Amber skysack, you're like,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: why is this good?
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: And what they have is double cord of the market
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: and one's now, uh, here's a big one befuddled. There's
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: a powerhouse of a card back and wall and I
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: feel like you haven't seen much of it. Here's just
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: a question. Yeah, I mean you have a triple befuddle
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: deck I do with the fish right, Yes? Have you
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: tried firing that into what's around? Is it still just
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: too slow?
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: I think that what I have seen is that you
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: are looking at limited creature control and creature control is
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: definitely something with talc that is out but also amber
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: skies with a rise and just to spit out creatures
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: with the house and hands pips.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: Because in that deck you also have a what am
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: I thinking of? Turtle in the pontoon? Put them all
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: back in here? Put them put all creatures back in
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: your hand, discard down to six, catching release. Yeah, I
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: was turtle the pond.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was really trying to follow this.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: The picture is a turtle. He's a turtle and a
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: floating yes, yes, all right, I do know what you're
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: talking about now, Yeah, I mean I wonder, I don't know.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: I guess that's a real because even with Mars right now,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: like okay, I play my Mars board catch and release.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: I guess that's a real big gamble, like maybe you
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: hit the pieces you need, maybe you don't. Oh, or
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: am I just filling your you're dis card up for
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: a big wins play.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: The catch and release?
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you discard down to six.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: So yeah, so I'm taking all the cards off of
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: your board, yes, and your hand and it's hand disruption,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: it's board disruption, and it is going ahead and dropping
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: you that hopefully you're you're mess back up, You're going
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: to six cards. Right, it's a great card, but it's not.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: I don't think that there's enough see in melandract to
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: make it playable. And I think the befuddle so befuddle
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: unfathomable action with an Amber pip because yes it needs
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: that play choose a house on your opponent's identity card
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: during their next turn. They cannot play cards of other houses.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: But again, if Mars is already out there, I don't
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: need to play it. I'm just going ahead, and I
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: guess I want to play cards so that I can
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: go ahead and replay the marshnanigans. But if I can't
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: get rid of your Mars and you can just take
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: heres for three or four Amber, it's still a good turn.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: You cannot play. Does doctor X say play a creature
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: from your descard pile or put into play? Yeah? Play
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: it is play so it will stop a doctor.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: X yeah from recurring it. But again, any of the board,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: you just take the turn and you're going ahead and
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: reaping out. Well, it's there, like if you have if
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: you have bored against the fuddle, you're you're still fine.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been Fuddle is an awesome, awesome card. It's
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: just that WHOA is not not strong in the current meta,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: so you're not going to see much of this.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: Well again, so with Woe you have the same issue
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: that you have a little bit with Talk. You have
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: to have consistent recursion of key cards that might be tokenized.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: There are a number of ways to do it. But
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: how frequently can you go ahead and recurs if you
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: are now beating the curb on how often I can
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: pull back my bufuddles in my corner of the markets
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: or my key cards. That really really matters if gr
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: is just frankly tossing in the discard and recurring them
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: without needing to go ouad and tokenize anything. Right now,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: it seems to be faster. So why are we seeing
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, in final refrain, why did you see the
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: one talk that's there because it has super steel with
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: double red line.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: It's got super steel, double red line, double against all
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: against all flags. Safe Port was it silver lining steel one?
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: If you do great a token creature something like that.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: I can't remember the name of the card, but it's
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: it's another steel It's a steel one card. Super Steel
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: is a thing.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Safeport is if you're Yeah, so safeport is is
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: to be captured or and if your yellow keys for
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: a friendly creature captures too, if your opponent's yellow key
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: is for steel one amber pip on it action for common, Yeah,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: but it is in both amber Sky's in talk. So
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It's just I think in our present meta,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: I think IG is gone down, just we don't see
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: it a lot. I think mimicry has gone up because
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: the actions in that are out there are very, very
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: very good. I think key cheats are still really really important,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: but you're just not seeing them and the ones that hit.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: I know Pete had thrown in for key Frog for Talk,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: and that's definitely something that's still there. A lot of
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: these cards scorning the market of the fuddle. They're really
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: really good, but if they're just not, if they're coming
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: in sets that aren't as viable to play right now,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: you're seeing less of them, which is probably what's happening
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: with the next card as well.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: Next car we got Hellafast. I didn't against the hell
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: ofFast deck in Final Refrain Halifax Brio deck. Yeah, Halifast
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: is good, but man, I mean there's some car play
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: on ten really kind of helped me out with that
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: quite a bit, making sure like, yet you'll get something
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: out of it one time, but oh no, you don't
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: get anything because you gotta wait. Never mind, they don't
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: come to play ready. But yeah, being able to like
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: just deal with it with some good c kind of
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: took care of it.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: But again, this is very much a if you can
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: get it early, it completely rearranges the tempo and it's
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: absolutely amazing. What's odd is that it puts chains, so
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: if you can go ahead, if someone halifast and then
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: drops it, but you're able to go ahead and wipe it,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: those chains may be enough just to completely turn that
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: tide right there. But it just we have not seen
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: Woe compete as much as as soon as g R
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: came out, as I anticipate seeing more talk and more
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: amber skies, and I just don't. I think we'll see
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: less and less of woe.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: Uh say, speaking of a card that was white hot
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: at one point time that you really don't see too
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: much anymore in furnace mm hmmm, because those sets just
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: aren't as good anymore. No great card, by the way, Yeah.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: It turns out Gigantics at least still are not good
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: enough in ARCon so you're not even gonna see them
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: with the double with the new gigantics.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got on here too. Skybeasts, anomalies, haunted creatures,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: that one, Uh what anomalies would you see? I think
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: there's only the really the one that you'd be looking
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: for anymore at this point, but that be way back
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: in World's Collide. Well, lateral shift, lateral shift.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: Which also never showed up in a place to be meaningful.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: It was just it's too rare. It was one of
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: those things where you don't see it because it's so rare,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: Like how often did you really see a lateral shift?
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: And when it did pop up, it popped up at
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: a poopoo deck.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean grim reapers shown up, Inflemancer is there,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: like Memoith like they just haven't really come to fruition.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: Just a card. It is of little value or meaning now.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: Little meaning, right, but like cards like Portal Monster, like
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: there's some there's some decks that can do some wonderful,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: wonderful things with some of these very unique cards.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not meaningful an arcave.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: Right, I do agree with that one.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: Well. I also the other card that I had on
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: here was Eaton's Jar. I think that's an interesting card
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: with the smaller card pool, Wookie. I know that it's
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: just how you had felt facing off against it. But
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: when you're bringing large amounts, whether that is the Mars Shenanigans,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: whether it's Geistoid, and you can recur and all of
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: a sudden it's taken out, it can do some amazing
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: things to Dex, but it the other cards in MM
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: are just not strong enough to hold up with it
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: right now, is what it seems.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: So well, and you got on here FFG sets question.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: Mark, Yeah, I put it as all FFG sets.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they're all in this weird sab state
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: of purgatory where they just don't matter anymore.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: Outside of a it's a handful. It's a handful, yeah, I.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: Mean even I mean we haven't even heard from what's
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: Nova's deck That Dex's done, That deck's done.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just in furnacy kind of.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's done pretty much.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: Jacques was actually, yeah, I don't I'd be surprised if
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: we see Nova event again.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, that too in Portland's right next door to right, like,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, maybe, Uh, yeah, all f I
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: just don't know. I'm trying to think of decks that
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: might even like still be able to put up. I mean,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: obviously frauds still floating.
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  Speaker 3: I mean you can make the argument for what we
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: saw with uh final refrain and that there there were
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: a handful of deck that showed up out of the
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: thirty two that were FFG sets.
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  Speaker 2: This is fun to watch. This guy's got a doctor
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  Speaker 2: X triple intentional discharge with a time traveler with a
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: Mars enhancement.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: Hmmm, kill your time traveler, get them back, Pete.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: Oh you intentional discharge was supposed to time traveler back
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: in your hand? Ready's the doctor X.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you get to keep drawing. Yeah, I've
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: actually faced that before.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: H Pete says, oh that fucking thing, yeah, Pete. Pete
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: has obviously got up against this deck. Yeah, FFG sets
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: kind of Uh. I don't know, Like I still have
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: my one World's Colyde deck. I don't think it stands anymore.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: I really I don't. I don't think it does. Yeah,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: it's just tough. It's hard out there right now in
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: the key Forge days, harder than ever.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: So part of God, I just played this deck, but
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: somebody else was playing something very similar.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: With goe with me. All right, boys, Yes, we're drawing
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: it into a close this week. We are all done.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: Hopefully maybe some of these things help you at Rochester.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: Maybe they will, maybe they won't. With that being said,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see you all next week. Happy forge and.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: Everyone, May the Forge be with you. Come scream us
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: in a discord and tell us how we're wrong about
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: what's going to show up at Rochester.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, watch it. I'll be world's collide.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: I think we're on ner valuing the broken ship that
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: happens because of house enhancements. That's just because we haven't
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: opened any of them.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: Man, they are.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: Dumb when they happened.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: I don't think all of us are undervaluing it. But
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: we'll see.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: I know they can be dumb. I just I haven't
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: ran into anything. You don't play enough key Forge. I
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: don't play on TCO. You're right. I don't like playing online.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: I hate playing on a computer, and it just it
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: is not my thing. You're right. If we had all
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: on about that with.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: That other game, that they have an official online client,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: that's a big deal.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, it is a big deal. It's it's not for me.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: I don't like playing a card game on a computer.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: It's just not for me. I don't like it, which
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: is why I play very little of the card game
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: of Altered because I don't like I don't enjoy playing
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: on t c O.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: Well, welcome to the modern world. People don't like seeing
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: each other. Wow, definitely online.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: Then you keep your house enhancements and I'll eat your cards.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: Inside their game, nothing here remains the same. Each card
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: holds a different key. It's what these masters help me see.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: In this corner serve time and space where reality shifts
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: its space.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: Down at the corner where the are const well, where
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: the story their wisdom and I can sell most in
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: the power of the car. Say deal down at the
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: corner where the ar con swell