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Bowl Season Best Bets! · Targeting Winners: A College Football Betting Podcast

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Hello everybody, welcome to targeting winners to college
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I'm 10. I'm joined today by Darren and
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Peter. We got three different
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So Peter, how you doing out there in Mexico?
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Not too bad, not too bad. Merry Christmas to everyone,
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good to have you here. Excited to be ready for another
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week of some pretty good games. I think so.
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We had some pretty decent ones this past week and looking
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forward to some some this week. So good to be here with all of
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you and Darren still cold. Yeah, it's snowing another
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coating to an inch today. P Shouldn't you be saying like
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Feliz Navidad or something because you're.
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Feliz Navidad, man Feliz Navidad I'm.
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Ready to kick you out of the. Country and send you back to
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Michigan. I've already kicked out of the
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Grundry, that's why I'm here. Oh, OK, that's fair.
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Yeah, like Pete said to to carry on with that.
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Yeah, I mean, I still do love bowl season.
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I'm not as enthralled with the games as Pete is, but I'll take
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any college football over no college football.
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So yeah, let's get to it. Why not you?
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Got that? What do you think of the play
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offs this weekend? We watched 2024 all over again.
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The Group 5 teams, you know, the talent level just does not seem
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to be there. Yeah, how's that shocking, right
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In the transfer portal era, right, All the good players send
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up on the larger teams with money.
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So we talked, we talked about it in the summer.
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This is what's going to happen over and over again, right?
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You, you, I mean, you might get a good player or two on some of
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these, on some of these Group of Five teams, but the depth is not
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there. Any injuries, forget about it.
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And any really good players by this point opt out, right 'cause
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they're going to move on elsewhere or they're going to
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move up. And So what do you have, right?
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You have, you have a group of five teams that just can't
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compete. It's no surprise until they fix
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this or do something about it, it's going to be the same thing
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every year into eternity. That's just what we got.
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Yeah, I mean, in James Madison's defense, I don't think any team
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was going to go up to Oregon and be competitive.
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I don't think any of the teams, the other teams that lost this
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weekend were going to go up there.
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And I don't even think Ole Miss could have went up there and won
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or I don't think Miami or Oklahoma could have went up
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there and won this weekend to to be perfectly fair to James
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Madison. But it is like it it is what it
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is. I mean, they're just a smaller
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school. You know what, that's it's a
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shame because well before at least it was on a neutral site.
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I mean, what is it? Boise State beat Oklahoma and
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the Fiesta Bowl 1 here. So it can't happen on neutral
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site. I think when you ask a team to
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especially going from Virginia to Oregon, I mean, you know, the
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whole two time zone thing, it was a tall, tall order for them
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anyway. So, but yeah, but they, they had
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a good year. We'll see what they do next
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year. They'll probably rig it some
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more. So it'll be 11 SEC teams in
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Notre Dame next year. For there'll only be one Group
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of Five team in next year. Somehow they'll fix.
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It I don't even think there'll be 1.
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I think they'll they'll. Fix it.
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They'll be 1. I think it's it's regulated.
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There has to be 1, but they'll do.
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Everything. That too.
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But who sets the regulations? I mean, they set the
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regulations. They can just take it as they
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go. They'll keep.
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It's not like anyone's got to crack down on them or anything
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like that. So it's it is what it is good
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run for the group of five that they should just have their own
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playoff probably yeah I mean this come with their own
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eighteen playoff 5 conference champions there and you know
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three at large and have their own playoff I.
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Mean for James Madison, it was a great year, but that's the best.
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You're going to see that you're you're just not going to see
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anything better than that. You're not going to go into a
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place like that and be, you know, one of these big
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conference teams. It's just not going to happen.
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I mean, it would take the team falling on their face.
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Something like just unique would have to happen.
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Even if they won that game, it's not going beyond that.
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That's the end of it, right? So it's just it.
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Would have to be a home team where there's just like some
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awful weather that time of year where, you know, couple of turns
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here and there can swing it. But yeah, like Pete said, the
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talent level is just, I mean, it was closer to 3-4 years ago, but
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it's not. I mean, you know, these Group of
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five teams came and sniffed the power of four at this point.
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It's all like it's basketball where if you get like, you know,
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like Davidson that one year with Steph Curry, you know, shoot the
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lights out, it doesn't matter what how much the other guys, if
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you have one guy just can't miss and he can just carry a team
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like that, you know, But football's just different than
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so much different than basketball.
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So yes, you can. You can plug in the patch from
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Holmes and a quarterback at one of these schools.
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It doesn't matter. It's not good enough to carry
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the whole. Team right, 'cause yeah, torch
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then that's the end of it. It doesn't matter, right?
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I mean, even I'm, I'm not talking to NFL here, but it was
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kind of fun to watch my Colts last night and to watch, you
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know, to watch my I had an old guy standing up for his old
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dudes playing really well at quarterback.
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But our defense stinks, right? But it was really fun to watch
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Phillip Rivers last night play at a really elite level for a.
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44 year old guy. That was fun to watch, right?
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That was cool to watch. And it was like watching Peyton
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back in the day a little bit. But that's about the best you
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could expect from a, you know, from a group of five teams with
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a, with a elite quarterback. That'd be it, right?
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All right, well, we got a couple games.
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Well, we got more than a couple for this week.
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We so going here. We got a couple that are going
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today. I think Darren hasn't been on a
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couple of these. We'll review with you on AV
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against Ohio. Yeah, I posted.
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I posted something on the YouTube community page there,
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like 6:00 this morning while I was slugging through a cup of
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coffee. We had touched on this one last
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week. It was one of the games we were
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keeping an eye on. I just posted because this was
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going to kick off at 9:00. This video probably be up right
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at 9 or maybe shortly after. This line did move to 6 1/2
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before we had had done anything with this game.
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The Ohio head coaching situation not worked itself out.
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It has as of today. Brian Smith officially relieved
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of his duties. The spread went up to 6 1/2.
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I thought it would go up a lot more than that.
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Since it did not, I fired on UNLV laying the 6 1/2 here.
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Dan Mullen before when he coached in bowl games, he was
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seven and three. So there is a a fair amount of
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data points there to show that he does kind of take these bowl
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games a little bit seriously here.
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And again, we we talk about motivation, mindset.
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I don't know where Ohio's at at this point with everything
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that's gone down with their coach.
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I would guess at this point they probably just want to get the
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season over, turn the page and and get working on 2026.
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The total is 62 1/2. Pete, I'm sure you you are aware
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both of these defenses are complete ass an overplay.
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I I don't know what your thoughts are on that.
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Wouldn't surprise me if you leaned over.
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But yeah, give me UNLVI think they're the more motivated team.
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Like I said, Dan Mullen does well in bowl games.
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And since it did not reach 7, yeah, I took the six or I laid
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the 6 1/2, I should say, with UNLV, one unit on the Rebels.
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Pete. Interesting right?
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So was he let go for I saw alcohol related reasons?
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I didn't read into it. He, You know, like most Mac
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coaches, he's probably got a little hooch on the desk.
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Apparently. He who?
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Gets ready. I thought he had an affair with
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a student. Was that the right coach?
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There. Was that too OK?
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I just saw alcohol related. It was like who gets fired for
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that? I mean that half these guys
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probably have some hooch in the desk and.
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Sure. More than half.
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Yeah, Come on. I thought that was really weird.
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I didn't have any time. Last I would explain someone to
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play calling. Yeah, I mean, I can see him
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getting fired for well, I mean, the team was decent.
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So I I don't know, I mean, it was it was weird to me.
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I read that I was like, that doesn't make any damn sense to
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me. So there had to be more to that.
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OK, so a fair whatever, that makes more sense to me.
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Yeah. Last 62 1/2 leaning over.
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Yeah. I just don't know.
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To your point, I don't know what Ohio's going to do.
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You don't know. You don't know if he's going to
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score. I don't know what the hell
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Ohio's going to do. I mean, I, I think it seemed
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like they like the guy. So, I mean, they're probably
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going to play for the guy and they're probably not very happy
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the guy got canned for whatever the hell went down.
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So I would imagine they're going to go out and play well.
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So yeah, I would not be surprised if this thing went
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over. I mean, imagine Ohio's going to
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lean to the run like they normally do.
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So yeah, I mean, I think this could be interesting.
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I do like your bet quite a bit. I mean, if I had to bet anything
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in this game, I'd follow you here.
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I mean, the over's a little tenuous, but yeah, I'm leaning
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over. I, I would not, you know, I, I,
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I would not blame anybody for going over here.
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But it's just hard to read what Ohio's going to do here.
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But I do think they're probably going to play pretty well.
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But that's that's my thought. All right, we'll move on to the
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other game kicking off tonight. Pete's second team here.
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We've got Hawaii hosting Cal Kimmy Tang against his his
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predecessor here. So wide receiver Jackson Harris
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is in the transfer portal. Did you have a bet on this,
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Darren or Pete? I think Pete did.
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We both did. But yeah, Pete, you go first.
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Well, it's my rainbow, so I got a, I've got a, I've been on my
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rainbows all year long here. I bet him any chance that I get
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that looks enticing to me. That 54 1/2 seemed a little soft
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the way why he's been scoring points this year.
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You know, they're a little consistent, but honestly, to me,
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they've been, they've been relatively consistent scoring.
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So I do, I do like Hawaii's ability to score and they're
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going to play fast because they typically play fast.
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So it really just comes down to what Cal's going to do here.
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But I, I, I do believe that Hawaii's going to score points
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and I do think Cal's going to chase and score some points as
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well. So to me, that 54 1/2's a low
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number. So I do like the over here in
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this game quite a bit. I'm only going one unit.
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I thought about two, but I don't trust myself enough this year to
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do 2 on anything, although I really kind of want to.
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So I'm going one unit on the over of 54 1/2 for this Cal in
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Hawaii game. So that's my thought.
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Is that what? Is that what you got, Pete 54
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1/2? When you I got yeah, what did I
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get? I got actually a 52 1/2 on a bet
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OK. Because I was going to say, I
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just, I was looking at DraftKings while you were
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talking. It's down to 50 1/2 and I don't
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understand that at all. This game screens like 3834.
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I don't know what the hell we're missing, but like you said, the
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the California quarterback, he is supposed to play.
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He's from Hawaii apparently. So I would expect him to
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probably ball out and again the the coach for California or I
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should say the interim or no, no, he didn't get the job.
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I can't remember that the guy Justin Wilcox left, all right.
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He's a defensive minded guy. He's gone now.
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So I expect Hawaii to do what they do and put up a lot of
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points at home. And every time Pete has
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mentioned Hawaii on the show this entire season about how
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it's a different animal playing them at home, he has been 100%
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correct. So I finally decided, you know
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what? I'm piling on Hawaii at home.
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I now they're favored by a point and a half.
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And again, this is just bowl games.
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The spreads and the totals can swing so much so quickly.
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So I'm actually laying a point and 1/2 here, although I'd much
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rather be getting a point and a half.
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But yeah, this is a home game for Hawaii.
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I I expect a ton of family and friends.
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I expect the seniors to want to go out on top.
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And I mean, we talk about who wants to go to Hawaii even
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during the regular season and treat it like a business trip.
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I don't know if these Cal kids or where their minds at.
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It's like, Yep, our season's done, our coach is gone.
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But hey, we get to go to Hawaii. You know, I mean, like, I don't
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know what version of Cal I'm going to get.
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But yeah, I mean, they should certainly put up some points
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with their with their QB. And so I don't understand why
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this total is dropping. But not to jinx Pete.
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I didn't bet that. I just went with the side I I
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mean dude knows his rainbows and his big 10 so I rolled with
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Pete's knowledge. I'm laying the point and a half.
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I did not go 2 units because something about that line still
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doesn't make any sense. I expect Hawaii to win by by
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more than a touchdown here, but because it's full season,
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anything can happen. Maybe maybe Rolovich since he he
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was a former Hawaii guy, he he wants to to show out or
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something. But I I have one unit.
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I am laying a point and 1/2 with Hawaii tomorrow Christmas Eve.
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OK, now we're going to move on the Friday the 26th, the game
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above Sports Bowl, we got Central Michigan and
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Northwestern. Opening line was northwestern
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-12 1/2 with over under 44 1/2. Peter, we'll start with you on
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this one. Where'd you come down on this?
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Yeah, I came down with two teams that I have a little interest in
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is when I came down on. I live relatively near Central
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and Northwestern is not being all that great or fun to watch.
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Looking at this thing like a game I would never watch in 1000
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years. So yeah, I don't I wouldn't even
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know what to do with this at 44 1/2, which is a really low
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number, but Central doesn't score a lot.
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NI mean neither one of these teams score a lot.
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Northwestern plays defense, but still it's a low number.
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I, I couldn't. That number is just, I know
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that's I'm out. No idea what to do with that
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number or either one of these teams.
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I'm out. That's where I am.
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Any thoughts with Aaron? Yeah, I have an idea, but I have
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no guts when it comes to this game to actually back a Mac team
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in a bowl game, much less playing a Big 10 squad.
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But the points intrigue me. It's 10 1/2.
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Now they have this Wildcat quarterback, Angel Flores, who's
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been out since October. He's supposed to play.
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That gives Central Michigan a little bit of a of AI.
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Don't want to say an edge because Northwestern does ball
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out defensively, but this total is even down.
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You got 44 1/2 there. I think you said it was 42 1/2
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Draftking. Yeah, DraftKings is showing 42
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1/2 as well. If you're giving me 10 1/2 with
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a total that low, I would tend to lean towards taking the
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points. But there's just something about
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Mac teams in bowl games, Western Michigan notwithstanding, they
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rolled Kennesaw State. By the way, Congrats on putting
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the world's bowl performance on film in the history of bowl
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games. Good job, Kennesaw.
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But yeah, not enough guts to to back the Mac here.
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But if I had to lean and and somebody had to bet this, my
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slightest of leans would be to take the points.
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I dig that play that that is, you know that that is intriguing
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with this game because I would consider these teams relatively
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equally in. Offensively challenged, yeah.
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I I mean like I could see this, I could see the Mac winning this
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game. I could see this.
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That would not be surprised at all.
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I could see him winning it out right.
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Honestly, I would not be surprised, much less the points,
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honestly. Well, we got Minnesota and New
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Mexico here. They're in the Rate Bowl Friday
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4:30 in Phoenix, AZ. The opening line Minnesota -3
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over under a 49 1/2 Minnesota 8 bowl game-winning streak.
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So Malkai Coleman and Kendrick Lanier are all out pretty thin
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out Wired receiver from Minnesota.
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I think we started with P last time.
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Darren, what do you think about this game here?
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Yeah, much like how peace started with the last game, I am
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scared of death and have no clue what to do here.
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I mean PJ Fleck in bowl games? You mentioned it Tim.
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Man, the dude is unbeatable. But if you read and believed
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everything that Jason Neck and New Mexico is spewing this week,
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man, they are ready. That being said, I want no part
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of this. I don't have a lean either, or
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possibly under. I don't know how a Minnesota
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game's got a total sitting close to 50, but that's even the
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slightest of leans. But no opinion on side either
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way here. I was leaning under myself, but
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Pete, what are you thinking? I would lean under, but if I can
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just have 30 seconds to just softly weep that PJ Fleck is not
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going to be Michigan's next head coach, that's all I care about
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in this game. I can give a shit about this
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game. I just want PJ to just come to
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Michigan, come home so I can spoon him for a little bit.
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I'm not going to get to spoon PJ.
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So I'm very unhappy about that. But yeah, I'm.
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Unhappy with the visual of you spooning PJ?
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I was going to say that visual is quite disturbing and.
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By the way, before you get too excited and you need time for
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yourself, the total is down to 43 1/2 by the way.
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So yeah, that that feels much more.
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That's more like it. Now I definitely am avoiding
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this game all again. Because I would have definitely
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played that under on that 49 and a half. 43 is getting more
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reasonable. So yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't
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know. I'd have nothing here other than
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that under and 49 1/2 be great. 43 1/2, no play here.
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So yeah, I'm out. First Responders bowl our
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beloved UTSA Roadrunners take on FIU.
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The opening line was UTSA -8 1/2 over under 57 1/2 game played in
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Dallas, TX. The Road Runners have two
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starting cornerbacks and two defensive lineman are all in the
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transfer portal. I'd imagine they're not playing.
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Some do enter the portal and still play for some reason, but
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I think all four of these guys are out.
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Peter, let's start with you. I'm going to need a first
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responder after PJ doesn't come to Michigan.
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But anyway, continuing forward 57 1/2 seems pretty steep to me
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right here. I mean, I, you know, with
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people, not with, with just guys not playing.
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I mean, I was leaning under in this game.
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I mean, if everybody's playing, I'd be leaning over.
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I think there's just two, there's some key people not
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playing. So I'd be leaning under.
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But this is another one of those games.
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It's really hard to read because of the people that are not on
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the field. I mean, I don't know this, this
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is a hard one to read for me. So I, I, I, I couldn't go
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anywhere with this. So I, I punted.
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So go ahead, Darren, you're up. Yeah, a ton of people out.
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I believe the UTSA coach came out and said he's expected to be
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down anywhere from 10 to 20 guys for this game.
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FIU like 3 of their five starting secondary are already
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out. Their quarterbacks dealing with
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a groin injury. No idea on if he's going or not.
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Owen McCown is supposed to play for UTSA and if Jenkins does
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play for FIU with all the defensive losses, I would give
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the overlook. It's actually up to 59 1/2.
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I don't know if I would touch it if it gets to say like 61, but
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if if Jenkins is a go, I mean, he's not the greatest
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quarterback, but he's got experience with that offense, a
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lean to the over just because there's so many starters on
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defense on both sides of the ball that aren't going to be
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there. You're you're talking backup
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units pretty much. But again, until I know what's
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going on with Jenkins, I would avoid this.
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And the line doesn't even was it was 8 1/2 when when Tim got
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this, it's down to 6 now. So a lot of FIU money coming in
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on again total like I said, up to 59 1/2.
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But you know, maybe it's down to 6, Maybe Jenkins is in.
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I don't know. I haven't seen anything
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confirming that or not. But if he plays, I would lean
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over still even at 59 1/2. Peter oh, you did that first.
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I did it already. I'm done.
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I need the first responder. Exactly.
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All right, we're going to move on to the Military Bowl to
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Annapolis, MD. This is on the 27th at 11:00 AM.
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Early kickoff, we got Pittsburgh and East Carolina.
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Pittsburgh giving six with over under a 59 1/2.
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Desmond Reed's opted out and the all time series is tied at 2:00
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and 2:00. So Peter, now we'll go to you,
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Pittsburgh and East Carolina. Yeah, We talked about these
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early starts not favoring offense, right?
20:13
They tend to favor defense. That number's pretty high at 59
20:17
1/2. I mean, you know, if this were a
20:19
later in the afternoon game, I might be leaning a little bit
20:21
over, you know, I just, the pit defense has been a little bit
20:24
inconsistent later in the season, so I'm kind of all over
20:29
the place in this thing. But then again, Pitt's offense,
20:31
you know, when they're pressured, which I think they
20:33
will get pressured a bit here, does tend to stall a little bit.
20:37
So I am leading under on this just because of the time and the
20:43
fact that I think the pit amp offense is gonna get a little
20:45
bit of pressure on them. And I don't think they're gonna
20:48
be able to move the ball the way they think they're gonna be able
20:50
to move the ball. So I think they're gonna have
20:51
some issues there with that. I think that's gonna slow the
20:54
game down a bit. It's not gonna be a slow game,
20:56
but I think it's gonna get slowed down a bit enough to stay
20:59
under that roughly 60 number. So yeah, I'm leading on the
21:03
under here, not playing it, but I do think there's an
21:05
opportunity here to play that, to play that under.
21:09
All right, Darren. Yeah, this line's up to
21:11
Pittsburgh by 10 and the total is down to 55 1/2 if you're a
21:14
DraftKings user. I do kind of like Pitt here.
21:18
I'm and you know, one of the things that I do in bowl season
21:21
because, you know, it's tough enough to handicap these
21:23
whenever you're losing a coach or either or both coordinators,
21:26
I tend to fade a little bit. Now, Grant, that doesn't always
21:28
work. I thought Utah State would have
21:30
would have taken advantage of Washington State losing all
21:32
their coaches, except they played like ass.
21:34
It was funny that they were wearing helmets with cow patches
21:36
on it because they literally played like cow manure.
21:41
But you look at East Carolina, both coordinators gone,
21:43
Quarterback Kate and Hauser is out.
21:45
I believe he is in the portal as well.
21:47
So you're losing the guys who called the plays on both sides
21:50
of the ball and your quarterback probably explains why this line
21:52
is up to 10. I would still lead Pittsburgh
21:54
here even with Desmond Reid out all.
21:58
Right, Hold on, drop something here.
22:00
OK, we're going on to the bad boy Mowers pinstripe ball.
22:03
The Yankee Stadium opening is Penn State minus a point and a
22:08
half over under at 48 1/2. Lots of opt outs all over the
22:12
place. Kate Klubnik does expect to
22:14
play. I think they're going to have
22:15
him play in this game. Darren, where do you come down
22:17
on this one? Yeah, a ton of opt outs.
22:22
Clemson losing a lot. They've already had at least
22:23
four players say they're going to the draft.
22:26
With that being said, I still think they're going to win this
22:29
game when the spread is 3. I'm trying to get an update.
22:31
It shifted. It went to Clemson -3 1/2.
22:34
I thought I was just pulling up. OK, DraftKings got 3 and 48 1/2.
22:38
No thoughts here on the total, but I do kind of like Clemson
22:41
here despite all their defensive opt outs.
22:44
I, I kind of was not a club Nick guy to start with, but I mean,
22:49
if he's a go and like Tim said, all, all reports seem to be that
22:53
he's going to be going. I like him a hell a lot better
22:56
than what Penn State's got a QD. So I'll as long as I say I, I
23:00
wouldn't feel comfortable. Maybe like a 3 1/2, you know,
23:03
maybe Penn State is like, oh, hey, you know what, let's try
23:06
and make something up this season.
23:07
Although the Pinstripe Bowl I'm sure wasn't on their plans in
23:09
August. But yeah, as long as that stays
23:12
three, I like Clemson here. Not enough to bet it with, with
23:15
all the defensive people going to the NFL or at least declaring
23:19
for the draft. But yeah, as long as it stays
23:22
three, I would lean Clemson here.
23:24
Peter yeah, I like that played here.
23:26
And I mean, so a total of 48 1/2.
23:28
I mean, there are so many skilled players out and both
23:32
sides of the ball. Yeah.
23:34
So I mean, I like Klubnick to actually drag Clemson to a win
23:38
here, sure, but this is going to be a lower scoring game.
23:41
This is going to be a snooze fest.
23:43
I don't think this thing is going to be very exciting to
23:46
watch because most of the talent at the skill positions is not
23:50
going to be on the field. So this is a ripe opportunity to
23:53
play the under here because it's not going to be a high scoring
23:55
game at all, I don't think. I think it's going to be a
23:59
snooze fest. I think this is one of those
24:02
opportunities where if you wanted to play a little heavier
24:04
on the under, this might be a chance to play a little heavier
24:07
in the under. So I think that number at 48 1/2
24:09
is still a little inflated, you know, for just for the vast
24:13
number of players that are just not playing here.
24:16
So from my perspective, this is a very ripe opportunity to play
24:22
the under. So I am playing one union.
24:24
I'll be under 48 1/2. That's my play.
24:27
I was in that way myself, so, and if we got a game at Yankee
24:31
Stadium, we got to have one at Fenway Park.
24:33
So also have one at Fenway Park on the 27th. 2:15 kickoff.
24:38
Opening line is UConn -3 1/2 with the over under of 48 1/2.
24:43
Got some opt outs for UConn as predicted.
24:46
No one's opting out for Army. You stick to the very bitter
24:49
end. So we'll start with Aaron on
24:50
this one. Where are you coming down with
24:52
this? Well, thankfully, I can't bet on
24:53
this game because Army being based in New York here, but I
24:57
think Army is favored by like 10 at this point.
24:59
And P if you can verify that. But I still like it if that's
25:04
actually what it is. Connecticut's got, I mean, Jim
25:07
Mora, who by the way, did a great job at UConn.
25:10
Now he's going to try and rebuild Colorado State.
25:12
Good for him. Quarterbacks out.
25:14
The four of their running backs are out.
25:15
Three tight ends are out, three offensive lineman are out.
25:18
Like 3 starters on the defense are out.
25:20
I mean, if Army's favored by anything less than 13 1/2, I
25:25
would lay it with Army. I don't know who the Hell's
25:26
showing up for UConn here. And you know, Army, they're
25:29
always going to be motivated. I don't know if UConn even cares
25:32
to be here. I'm surprised they didn't pull a
25:34
Marshall from like last year. But you know what?
25:36
We just don't have enough players.
25:37
We're not going to go. But yeah, Pete, whatever that
25:40
spread is, as long as it's 13 1/2 or less Army favored, I
25:44
would be on the cadets here. With yeah, it went from Yukon -3
25:49
to army -8 and. 1/2 oh hell, all under 10 send one of you guys
25:54
money before we're done here 'cause all it says under 10
25:58
who's got PayPal God damn. You've got my PayPal and I've
26:02
been my you've got all my stuff, man, you.
26:05
Might have heard from me before kickoff.
26:08
I love that bet. Yeah.
26:10
I mean, I mean, Army's going to win this game period.
26:14
Over under 40. I mean, it's 48 1/2 in the
26:16
slide. I think it's what, 43 1/2 now or
26:19
something. It's it's down.
26:22
I'm I what did I, what did I get?
26:24
I got, I got 43 1/2 when I played it.
26:27
I'm still going to hunger on this thing that's it's not
26:29
scoring because Uconn's not going to score.
26:33
They might score 3. Maybe they'll score a touchdown
26:35
somehow, so they might score 7. Army's going to run the ball all
26:39
day long, right? They're going to score, I don't
26:42
know, 24. It might be 24 to three or
26:45
something like that. They're going to win.
26:47
They're going to cover. They're going to be well under
26:50
this total. This is a beautiful place to
26:53
parlay those two things together.
26:54
We don't talk parlay's here, but if you wanted to magically under
26:59
lay those points with army, it's a beautiful thing because I
27:02
don't know what U Conn's going to do here at all.
27:05
But yeah, I am betting. Jeez, I really should go 2 units
27:09
on the under here. I'm going one unit on the under
27:12
of 43 1/2 on this game. All right, and now we're going
27:17
on to the bowl of all bowls, everybody's favorite, the Pop
27:19
Tarts Bowl in Orlando, 27330 kick off BYU -2 1/2 over under a
27:27
55 1/2 and they're playing Georgia Tech.
27:31
They're not playing Notre Dame, they're playing Georgia Tech.
27:34
Darren, do you want to start with you?
27:37
I believe BYU is up to 4 1/2 now.
27:40
And it is up to 4 1/2. Yeah, I, I, I really do kind of
27:44
like BYU here. I think the biggest loss for
27:47
Georgia Tech is going to be their offense coordinator
27:50
leaving. I believe he went to Florida.
27:53
Yeah, I mean, he he had that offense humming with Haines King
27:57
and the running back whose name is escaping me right now.
27:59
But no opt outs currently for for BYU.
28:03
I know Tim mentioned when he when he brought up Notre Dame.
28:06
I mean, BYU is one of the handful of teams that feels like
28:08
they should have been in the playoff.
28:10
And I got A and let's face it, the Pop Tarts Bowl is the
28:12
greatest non playoff bowl game of all time.
28:15
Yes, it is. As well, I don't know who does
28:18
the marketing, but give him or her a raise because that person
28:21
obviously is excellent at their job.
28:24
So to make this game as popular as it is, I do like BYU here.
28:29
I'm a little scared to death of the four and a half.
28:31
I would love to see 4, but you know, I missed out on the number
28:34
here. But I still think BYU rolls
28:36
here. Hi, Peter.
28:39
Agreed. Yeah, I obviously I usually play
28:42
totals, but that total, I don't know what to do with that total,
28:44
honestly, because I don't know what Georgia Tech is going to
28:46
do. I love BYU in this game.
28:48
I would lay those. I would love to play those
28:50
points all day long. I think it's a great, I think
28:52
it's a great spot for them. I think it's a great match up
28:55
for them. Once again, this bowl is
28:57
awesome. I can't wait to see which Pop
28:59
Tart pops out of there and who gets to eat the damn thing.
29:02
I cannot wait. I want that brown sugar one to
29:05
pop out there. That thing is the best pop tart
29:07
there is. Yes, it is.
29:09
I cannot wait so. Guys obviously never had a
29:12
Smores pop tart in your life and it shows.
29:16
Have you ever had one chocolate chip cookie dough S'mores?
29:19
Come on. Maple brown sugar is the way to
29:21
go to be. Fair, I haven't had a brown
29:23
sugar 1 so I can't really say but.
29:25
Alright, well, you got to. Try s'mores ones are actually
29:27
life. Changing.
29:28
Well, BYU is going to be eating that thing at the end.
29:31
So anyway, yes, I love your bet. BYU all day.
29:33
I love it. But yeah, BYU is great.
29:34
I love it. OK, I got to play on this one
29:36
too. It comes down to, you know,
29:39
Haines King in the offense. I think they can be a little bit
29:42
scary. But I think it comes down to,
29:44
like Darren touched on earlier, BYU, no one's opting out as far
29:50
as of now, as of, you know, Tuesday.
29:54
They like to shorten the game. I think they're going to win the
29:56
turnover battle. The turnover ratio is, I
29:58
believe, a + 9 in favor of BYU. If Georgia Tech can't force BYU
30:03
out of their game, I think they'll protect the lead.
30:06
I'm thinking it's got to come down to like a 3121 margin.
30:10
So I've got BYU laying the 4 1/2 against Georgia Tech and that's
30:16
3121. It's a good score.
30:18
I think that'd be wouldn't would mess with the with the under
30:23
there, but we're going to move on.
30:25
I wanted to bet on this one so bad this because it's a Snoop
30:27
Dogg Bowl, but Tucson, AZ on a 27th 430 kickoff.
30:32
Fresno State -3 1/2 over under 46 1/2.
30:37
Got some opt outs there from Miami for Fresno sake just to
30:40
safety. He's in the transfer portal.
30:43
I think we started with Darren. So Peter, we'll go with you on
30:45
this one. How do you like the Snoop Bowl?
30:48
Well, I mean, you got to look some Snoop Bowl.
30:50
I mean, you know, bring up the bong and everything's great.
30:52
I mean, it's a fantastic bowl at the end of the day.
30:54
I mean, it's a Snoop Bowl. He has a great bowl.
30:57
So anyway, should be very nice. Yeah.
31:00
So 46 1/2 with these teams, I mean, that feels about right,
31:06
which is why I didn't play it 'cause that feels pretty much
31:08
where this thing's going to land.
31:09
I think I do, I do kind of like Miami here in this game.
31:13
So I, you know, if I had to go, if I had to pick a side, I would
31:16
take the points in Miami. However, I tend to not play
31:20
those games. I tend to play totals.
31:21
That total feels about right. So I I didn't play it, but I
31:24
think it could be an interesting game.
31:26
I do like to watch Miami, Ohio play, so I may actually TuneIn
31:29
for this one. That's kind of kind of my jam.
31:31
So those are my thoughts on this one, Darren.
31:34
Yeah, I can't say any of these teams I can't figure out.
31:37
Fresno stayed for the life of me, so I stopped trying.
31:40
All I hope is I would love to see Snoop go up to a concession
31:43
stand and buy some fries from Daquan Finn, who quit his
31:46
program and hopefully will be selling concessions in the
31:50
Arizona Bowl because that's what he deserves after seven years
31:54
and quitting on multiple programs.
31:56
No opinion here. The line's up to 5 1/2.
32:00
Like Pete said, Miami can be interesting, but their
32:02
quarterback play since Daquan quit has been, let's just say,
32:07
subpar. Not, not not good, Not good.
32:12
I'm guessing for this whole game, for the Snoop Bowl, the
32:16
snack bar is going to be very busy.
32:19
Twinkies. Well, you're.
32:22
Assuming that like more than like 2000 people are actually
32:24
going to show up. First of all because bowl games
32:28
have not been very well attended.
32:29
This. Year the whole dog pound's going
32:30
to be there that'd. Be great.
32:32
What do you got to do? I'm sure you've got a lot of
32:34
things you can do in Arizona besides go.
32:35
To this for example, is everything going to be great?
32:38
That's true. Got North Texas, San Diego State
32:42
and the New Mexico Bowl this Saturday at 5:45 kickoff,
32:46
opening line North Texas -6 1/2 with over under a 56 1/2.
32:51
Got a couple, got a key one for North Texas.
32:54
Key opt out in the quarterback. San Diego State's got a couple
32:59
defenders in the transfer portal.
33:02
He started with Darren, I believe last time.
33:03
So, Pete, let's go back to you. What are you thinking about this
33:06
game? Yeah, I wasn't sure the opt outs
33:08
until now, right. So with the North North Texas
33:11
quarterback being out, that number is too high.
33:14
That 56 1/2 is too high. If that 56 1/2 felt about right,
33:18
if Drew was going to play, if Drew's not playing, that's feels
33:23
like an under to me. I'd definitely be leaning the
33:25
under because I would expect Drew to be moving, you know,
33:28
moving the ball and all and all that.
33:30
If he's not playing, I don't know what's behind him.
33:32
Actually, I have no idea what's behind it, but it's not true.
33:35
So yeah, that's going to be a problem for North Texas.
33:37
So yeah, I mean, I think that suddenly became a potential
33:41
playable under here unless that numbers moved, right?
33:44
I haven't looked at it. So 56 1/2 when did he when did
33:47
he opt out? Is it?
33:48
Has it been like recent recent? I don't think he's opted out.
33:51
He's definitely going to the portal, but.
33:53
He's in the portal, Yeah. He didn't opt out.
33:54
He's in the. Portal playing, so he's been
33:56
playing. It's unclear.
33:57
Last note I see is unclear. If you yeah, that's what I'm
33:59
saying. North Texas. -3 1/2 now on Hard
34:03
Rock bet yeah. Right.
34:05
So that would suggest they think he's probably not going to play.
34:08
I don't know. Yeah, if he just.
34:10
It's hard to bet this thing because I would imagine if he's
34:12
in a portal, we're not going to play, which means coach.
34:15
Right. Isn't Where's he going?
34:18
Where's the coach going? I mean, the thought is he's
34:19
going to Oklahoma State with his head coach.
34:21
But you know, like Pete said, until you know what's going on
34:25
with him, you know? It's hard to.
34:27
Do it. The line movement, like Pete
34:29
said, leads me to believe he's not going to play and I don't
34:31
see why he would. I mean, if you're going to go to
34:33
Oklahoma. State, yeah, you don't want to
34:34
get hurt. Exactly.
34:37
But I can't trust San Diego State offensively either, so
34:39
this would be an avoid for me at all costs, Yeah.
34:43
Or maybe just on a fly, just play.
34:46
If it's an under. I would assume he's not going to
34:48
play, you know, I mean assume. Drew's not going to play in San
34:51
Diego State. We can't trust their offense and
34:52
this is an under right. Yeah, it's 53 1/2 now.
34:56
So it's yeah, it's come down a few points as well.
34:58
And again, that's probably mess maker.
35:01
Yeah, sure. All right.
35:03
Next bowl on the 27th in my backyard down here in
35:05
Jacksonville, the Gator Bowl got Missouri and Virginia.
35:08
Missouri -7 with a opening line of over under a 50 1/2.
35:15
I've got 1 Virginia defender in the transfer portal.
35:19
Let me see if the line has moved on this one.
35:22
And I got -4 here, yeah, I got 3 1/2 on hardware.
35:27
So that's considerably there. Dan, we'll start with you.
35:31
What you got? Again, this all comes down to
35:34
what's Chandler Morris going to do for Virginia.
35:37
I mean, I'm not Hardy supposed to play if that's the case.
35:39
He's the best player on the field and that 3 1/2 at Hard
35:42
Rock is enticing. I'm seeing 4 at DraftKings, but
35:46
Virginia's defense is not terrible at stopping the run.
35:49
But then again, not too many good run defenses have faced
35:52
anything like I'm at Hardy trivia like you got there.
35:56
He's not playing. That's their backup, I believe
35:58
is Matt Zollers or Zollers or something like that.
36:02
He does not inspire confidence. But as long as he can turn
36:04
around and hand the ball off, I think Missouri would cover here.
36:09
But again, I think if Chandler Morris decides he's not playing,
36:14
I think you're going to see that line tick back up closer to the
36:16
opening line of seven, but lean Missouri.
36:19
But until I know what's going on with Virginia's QB situation, I
36:23
will stay away. Peter.
36:27
Yeah, more uncertainty leads, leads me to believe under is the
36:31
play again here. Maybe I I don't know.
36:34
It's just another one of these games where it's just who the
36:37
hell knows what's going on. It's hard to bet these games
36:40
when you just don't know who's going to be on the field.
36:42
I mean, these are like last minute things.
36:45
I don't know. I mean, I, I tend to think the
36:47
under is probably the play here. I am not playing because I'm
36:50
just, I'm just not sure. But yeah, yeah, that's where I
36:55
am. I don't know.
36:55
I'm uncertainty. Yeah, I'm going to throw my
36:58
phone over there because I just made a pair.
37:01
I bet while you guys were talking, I took, I'm going to
37:03
take Missouri. It's only 3 1/2 now, so I'm
37:05
going to put a unit on Missouri, add that to my tally sheet,
37:09
drive Darren crazy before the end of the new year.
37:10
So that's good. We'll go with that.
37:12
So. Only one add on, so yeah once.
37:15
Once I get to 2 add-ons then I lose my marbles.
37:18
So as long as we're at one, we're OK.
37:19
All right, so I can't do that for this game.
37:21
I threw my phone across the room and now we've got I think our
37:24
final game for this episode. They got a Texas Bowl this
37:29
December 27th. I do that Saturday, 9:15 in
37:31
Houston. Opening line is Houston -1 1/2
37:35
with over under a 45 1/2. It has since moved to 2 1/2 at
37:39
least on Hard Rock Bet LSU has got a couple opt outs and a
37:44
couple in the transfer portal. Starting Center for Houston.
37:49
He left the team. Didn't see a reason for that.
37:53
It can't be good. Peter, we'll start with you.
37:55
Were you coming down on this one?
37:57
The fighting future Kippins. Yes.
38:00
All right. Well, very nice.
38:02
Yeah. I mean, I don't like the total.
38:04
That 45 1/2's a weird, weird ass number to me with this game.
38:07
I don't like that at all. Now that's it.
38:10
I kind of do like Houston laying the 1 and I, I, I, I don't, I
38:15
don't dislike that. I think if I had to make a
38:17
little move here, I think. I would go.
38:19
That direction I I think they're gonna I think that Houston
38:23
defense is gonna control LSU in this game.
38:25
I I can see yeah I could see Houston taking control of this
38:29
game keeping it close and and winning this game.
38:33
I I I could I could see that playing out pretty nicely here.
38:36
Said that total is gonna make a lot of sense to me so I wouldn't
38:39
touch that thing. But I'm just curious what Darren
38:41
has to say about this. But I do I am intrigued by
38:44
Houston and and that and that point and and that one on half
38:48
there so. You know, you know, I live for
38:50
some disagreements on this show, but I don't think I've agreed
38:52
with anything that you said outside of anything involving
38:55
the Hawaii Rainbows any more than I agree here.
38:59
Houston is up to a 2 1/2 point favorite.
39:01
That total is down to 41 1/2. So I don't know if that changes
39:05
your thought on the total, but I mean, then this is like
39:09
Houston's playoff game. I mean, you get an SEC team
39:12
against a coach that most people can't stand in your home state.
39:17
I kind of think Houston's really going to be up for this game.
39:21
I mean, if if you're on LSU, I mean, you've got the new coach
39:25
hired now, so you could have left if you're staying.
39:28
Yeah. I don't know.
39:30
Do you have to prove anything to Kiffin at this point?
39:32
I mean, you're kind of on the roster going into next year.
39:36
I think the biggest thing with LSU is who's going to be there,
39:38
You know, who they going to buy in the in the portal coming up
39:41
in a couple weeks. But I think Houston is going to
39:44
be one of the most motivated teams this whole season and
39:48
getting it under 3 still. Pete, I, I agree with you 130%.
39:55
I did not bet it yet because again, we're still, you know,
39:59
four days away and a lot could change.
40:03
But yeah, Saturday night, 9/15. The short comes up on the
40:08
YouTube channel at 7:00. Don't be surprised, my ugly ass
40:11
is on there telling you to bet Houston 'cause I might be doing
40:14
the same thing. I love it.
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I love that bet. All right.
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Well, that went by pretty quick. Let's wrap it up.
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Darren, what you got? I got UNLV laying 6 1/2 over
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Ohio which will be kicking off probably as soon as this video
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is uploading. And I am right with Pete.
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I am taking the Hawaii Rainbows at home, laying a point and a
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half now over the Cal Golden Ears.
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OK, I've got BYU -4 1/2 over at Georgia Tech and I recently
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added Missouri over Virginia -3 1/2 points, Peter.
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Beautiful, Callum. I beloved Rainbows over 52 1/2 a
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game where nobody's playing Penn State and Clemson under 48 1/2
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and then Connecticut and Army. Who's going to run all over the
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place under 43 and a? Half.
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