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Is Andy Cohen Stepping Down? Meghan Markle, Tamra Quits with Zack Peter · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 2: Heather MacDonald.
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  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I return favorite. He
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  Speaker 2: is an expert in so many things. Zach Peter. Welcome
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  Speaker 2: back to Juicy Scoop, host of No Filter with Zach Peter.
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  Speaker 2: Is it just Zach or is it No Filter? It's
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  Speaker 2: No Filter with your full name.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Just on Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald. But on Instagram,
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  Speaker 3: it's just at No Filter with Zach.
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  Speaker 5: Got it.
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  Speaker 3: Because it was too long. But yes, the full show
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  Speaker 3: is No Filter with Zach Peter.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Um, yes. So we are going to get into
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  Speaker 2: a lot of things. You were, uh, you know, I had,
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  Speaker 2: I had Nick on, on Thursday, we got into Blake
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  Speaker 2: and Justin and he was clearly team Blake and Ryan.
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  Speaker 2: And a lot of people were like, you need to
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  Speaker 2: get Zach back on. And so there are some things
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  Speaker 2: that have come up in the last couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 2: So we're going to catch up on that, but we're
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  Speaker 2: going to start the show off with some interesting housewife
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  Speaker 2: breaking news since you're an expert in that as well. So, um, Tamara,
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  Speaker 2: judge of Real Housewives of OC, announced via her Instagram
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  Speaker 2: that she has quit Real Housewives of OC. I saw
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  Speaker 2: over the weekend people in New Orleans had seen them
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  Speaker 2: filming Real Housewives of OC. There was photos of Gretchen, Shannon, Gina, Emily.
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  Speaker 2: Who else? I saw Heather Dubrow in the photos.
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  Speaker 3: Katie was there.
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  Speaker 2: Tamara, Katie.
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  Speaker 3: Gina, all of them.
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  Speaker 2: So all of them. There's no new people.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: No. And so I was like, oh, that's cool. They're
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  Speaker 2: in New Orleans are filming. And then this popped up.
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  Speaker 2: And then Andy just kind of was like, I can't
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  Speaker 2: speak on it on his radio show. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: her best friend, one of her best friends, Teddy, is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, going through incredible medical situation with her cancer.
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  Speaker 2: And so it sounds like maybe that that's what she's
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  Speaker 2: saying is like, what am I doing filming this show?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Bullshitting about something when my friend is like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: going through the hardest thing in her life. So what
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  Speaker 2: do you think?
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  Speaker 3: It's very Meredith Marks, right? when they're fighting and she's
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  Speaker 3: in the hot seat and then suddenly all the women
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  Speaker 3: are grilling her and she's just like the children of
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  Speaker 3: the world. And she like goes to something. I think
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  Speaker 3: that's what's happening here. She's probably in the hot seat.
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  Speaker 3: Gretchen came back and Gretchen made no, you know, there were,
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  Speaker 3: there's no speculation that Gretchen was going to come back
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  Speaker 3: and put her in the hot seat. Like Gretchen was
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  Speaker 3: ready for her. And she says, Tamara's been terrible for years.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, it was time to hold her accountable.
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  Speaker 3: So I think Tamara's probably taking the heat this season and,
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  Speaker 3: And then she just had this moment of like there
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  Speaker 3: are real problems in the world and other people are
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  Speaker 3: dealing with things. And my friend Teddy is going through
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  Speaker 3: a really serious situation. And I'm, you know, and she
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  Speaker 3: doesn't want to take the heat. And I think she's
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  Speaker 3: probably quitting and she's using Teddy's diagnosis and her struggle,
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  Speaker 3: you know, as an out.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, I think a couple things can be true
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  Speaker 2: at the same time. So we all remember the famous
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  Speaker 2: scene when she went running on some other girl's trip.
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  Speaker 2: And took off her heels and went running. And she's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, athletic little girl. So she was running pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: And it was, you know, you'll never see my face again.
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  Speaker 2: And so this is what I think. This is just
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  Speaker 2: a prediction of mine. I think if there was one
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  Speaker 2: particular conversation on the show, fight, conversation, confrontation, that led
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  Speaker 2: her to go, I'm out. I think... that possibly at
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  Speaker 2: one point Gretchen may have brought up to Tamara how
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  Speaker 2: critical Tamara was of Slade being a father to his
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  Speaker 2: now deceased son, but who was critical with, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know the diagnosis, but he had two sons. One was
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  Speaker 2: the older one that we saw on the show with
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  Speaker 2: Joe that played the guitar. And then there was a
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  Speaker 2: younger one that we saw on the show back then
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  Speaker 2: That time I don't think was ill. With that ex-wife,
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  Speaker 2: because I think they had different moms, sometimes that ex-wife would,
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  Speaker 2: I guess, communicate with some other housewives and share that
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  Speaker 2: she was not feeling like she was getting the support
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  Speaker 2: from Slade. When the poor boy passed, Gretchen shared a
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  Speaker 2: lot of photos that they were with him. that Skylar,
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  Speaker 2: their daughter, was with them and all this stuff. But
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  Speaker 2: we would hear oftentimes from housewives, Tamara being one of them,
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  Speaker 2: that Slade was not participatory financially or whatnot in this
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  Speaker 2: child's life. So I think something might have happened where
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  Speaker 2: she was saying that. And then also Tamara being in
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  Speaker 2: a hot seat with that situation, but also being in
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  Speaker 2: an extremely vulnerable situation that her best friend is fighting
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  Speaker 2: for her life was like, Oh, my– I can't defend
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  Speaker 2: that behavior.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then also be in this position. And the job
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  Speaker 2: we– you and I both know the job of being
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  Speaker 2: a housewife is 99% emotional warfare.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: It is– even the women that come off like Teflon women,
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  Speaker 2: Ramona and stuff, when I've talked to them now that
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  Speaker 2: they're out are like, I'm so happy I'm out. I'm
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  Speaker 2: so like– it is such an emotional thing. Yeah. Being
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  Speaker 2: that she's obviously very close to Teddy, it's not only
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  Speaker 2: probably her best friend but her business partner with the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: But also it's having the moments of like, I don't
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  Speaker 2: need this shit. Whatever job you're doing, whether you're an
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  Speaker 2: accountant and your mom is dying and someone's like, really?
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  Speaker 2: You're not going to come the day after your mom,
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  Speaker 2: you know, your look, whatever. And you're like– fuck you
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  Speaker 2: my mom's dying I don't need this shit like whatever
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  Speaker 2: it is and so I think that it was just
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  Speaker 2: that kind of emotional break and I wouldn't be surprised
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  Speaker 2: if she comes back.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah I don't think she's actually going to she's gonna
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  Speaker 3: take a she's gonna take a B and then she'll
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  Speaker 3: end up filming she'll probably take a week well we
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  Speaker 3: heard last this season of Beverly Hills like Kyle when
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  Speaker 3: she left In the robe, she didn't film for two
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  Speaker 3: weeks and then came back.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, really? Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So she had quit the show. And I just think
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  Speaker 3: that's probably what's going on with Tamara. I agree with you.
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  Speaker 3: I think Teddy's recent brain tumors are weighing heavily on her.
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  Speaker 3: That is her close friend. She works with her very often.
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  Speaker 3: And I think it's both things, right? Something... I think
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  Speaker 3: Gretchen clearly came to the table with something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And maybe she has some dirt that she dug up
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  Speaker 3: on Tamara and who Tamara was talking to or communicating
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  Speaker 3: with or something. Like, it's either something like that or
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  Speaker 3: it's something about Eddie that she doesn't want out on
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  Speaker 3: the show. Because those are the only times housewives get
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  Speaker 3: that emotional as if it's something about the husband.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, where they feel like if this gets out there,
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  Speaker 2: this could be the end of my business as I
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  Speaker 2: know it or my family as I know it. Which
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  Speaker 2: is why this job is emotional warfare and why it
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  Speaker 2: is so much harder than anything anyone ever gives them
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  Speaker 2: credit for and why she said, Tamara, mental health is
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  Speaker 2: also health. And I'm doing this for my mental health.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, also, I've heard that in filming, the other
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  Speaker 2: cast members, a couple of the cast members were, you know,
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  Speaker 2: very sympathetic to what she's going through as far as
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  Speaker 2: being Teddy's, you know, very good friend. But some of
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  Speaker 2: them never reached out and some of them have not given,
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  Speaker 2: you know, been that like caring or it doesn't seem
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  Speaker 2: like they're caring. And so that's probably, she's probably clocking that.
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  Speaker 2: And then if one of those people came at her,
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  Speaker 2: she was like, you didn't even fucking call me when
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  Speaker 2: you knew my best friend was going through this. Like
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  Speaker 2: F off.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, that's the game, right? Like you, I
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  Speaker 3: think you have moments where you think the friendships are
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  Speaker 3: deeper than they actually are. And you realize it's a
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  Speaker 3: game of Survivor. We're all just here to do, we're
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  Speaker 3: gladiators in the arena. And our job is to entertain
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  Speaker 3: the crowd. And they want to see us, you know,
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  Speaker 3: come for blood.
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  Speaker 5: Great analogy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So I just think, but I mean, it's also
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  Speaker 3: kind of, and it's hard because I really do like
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  Speaker 3: Tamara on a personal level outside of the show. But
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  Speaker 3: it's hard because it's like she has been one of
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  Speaker 3: the ones that has put the women, you know, feet
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  Speaker 3: to the fire every time there's been something that she's
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  Speaker 3: had to grill them on. So it's interesting that it's
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  Speaker 3: almost like her housewife's karma just collectively coming back.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, she was the one that put out the
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  Speaker 2: rumor that Kelly Dodd had done a train. Yeah. And
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  Speaker 2: then made Vicky repeat it when they were in those
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  Speaker 2: weird Marie Antoinette outfits.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And there was no proof to it at all. And
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  Speaker 2: just putting it out, oh, well, I heard this. And
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  Speaker 2: if you go way back to the Gretchen and Tamara shit,
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  Speaker 2: Gretchen had some ex-boyfriend that put out salacious photos of
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  Speaker 2: her or something.
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  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Tamara put that out in the universe, and that was
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  Speaker 2: really where their, like, thing started.
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  Speaker 3: It's hard because it's like you've had, I mean, every
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  Speaker 3: housewife at some point has had their season where they're
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  Speaker 3: just getting annihilated. We saw Shannon went through it last season.
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  Speaker 3: They brought back Alexis Bellino. So it's really Tamara in
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  Speaker 3: the same position.
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  Speaker 2: Except Shannon didn't get annihilated.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no, the fans ended up turning on Tamara because
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  Speaker 3: they ended up embracing Shannon.
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  Speaker 2: Feeling sorry for her.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean, but.
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  Speaker 2: They're filming of it. Thank God the cops never, that footage.
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  Speaker 3: Never was seen. Oh, that body cam footage.
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  Speaker 2: I know. Yeah, we have it of Karen Huger.
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  Speaker 3: She's just walking the dog.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, mugshot. The only housewife in history to be arrested
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  Speaker 2: whose mugshot we have not seen is Shannon Bedore's, which. hey,
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  Speaker 2: good attorneys can be a valuable thing.
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  Speaker 3: But that has to be wild, because you know that
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  Speaker 3: body cam footage is crazy. She's pretending she was walking Archie,
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  Speaker 3: and now we know she had the bloody face. Could
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  Speaker 3: you imagine somebody just walking down the street with their
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  Speaker 3: dog and be like, oh, it was just my dog
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  Speaker 3: had to go to the bathroom. Like, who's going to
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  Speaker 3: buy that? But so, yeah, but Shannon did go through
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: it during filming, though. Afterwards, the audience was on Shannon's side,
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  Speaker 3: but going through it, having to deal with Alexis, and
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: then having Tamara on her.
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  Speaker 2: And handling herself well, she did. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And she did the best that she could in that situation,
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  Speaker 3: which is kind of what you sign up for. You
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  Speaker 3: know that there's always going to be. And Tamara went
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  Speaker 3: into the season knowing Gretchen was coming back, knowing that
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  Speaker 3: the audience wanted a takedown season of Tamara. Like, she
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  Speaker 3: knew all of these things going into it that, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Also, I think there's a lot of harshness memories of
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  Speaker 2: Gretchen's because there was this friendship bracelet moment where it
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  Speaker 2: was like a pink little, like, bracelet that that tamra
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  Speaker 2: gives it to her and i remember this was so
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  Speaker 2: long ago and i was very friendly with tamra at
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  Speaker 2: the time and we we had a show and we
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  Speaker 2: needed guests because it was a guest host and i
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: said what about uh i get these two housewives and
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: at the time they were friends now you know so
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  Speaker 2: i get tamra and gretchen on and it was a
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  Speaker 2: great episode and it was fun and they did great
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  Speaker 2: And then later on I have my book party and
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  Speaker 2: I invite them both. And I find out from Heather
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  Speaker 2: Dubrow that allegedly– not allegedly. It's what she told me.
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  Speaker 2: Tamara was bummed that I invited Gretchen. And I go,
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  Speaker 2: but they're good friends now. They did the friendship bracelet
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  Speaker 2: and all this stuff. And she's like– and Tamara was like, oh, please.
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  Speaker 2: I did that because the audience hated me and I
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  Speaker 2: had to make up with Gretchen. And I think Gretchen
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  Speaker 2: being like– a woman of God and Christian. She believed.
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  Speaker 2: And I think Gretchen from 12 years back is holding
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  Speaker 2: the fact that you fake pretended to be my friend. Remember,
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  Speaker 2: she also at one time opened up to Gretchen and
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  Speaker 2: nobody else that she had had a suicide attempt back
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  Speaker 2: when she was 21. And I remember Vicky was like,
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  Speaker 2: what are you doing here with Gretchen? We're best friends.
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  Speaker 2: So she was doing all that stuff and making Gretchen
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  Speaker 2: feel like, She was a real friend. And 10 years later,
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: when you realize that someone was not a real friend, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you're not going to get over it. And now you're
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  Speaker 2: working with them. You're going to be like, yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: got your number. And I think that some, something happened.
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  Speaker 3: She should have, she, If anything, she was probably the
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  Speaker 3: most prepared coming in. Oh, she had 10 years of prep.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, not only that, but I mean Tamra. Because when
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: she hit the fan with Erica, she couldn't predict that
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: the divorce was going to happen and that the legal
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: stuff was going to happen while they were filming. And
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: Shannon didn't really know that Alexis was going to be
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: so big on the cast last season. Right. She was
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  Speaker 3: just kind of creeping back in.
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  Speaker 2: She was banking on that everyone would hate Shannon for
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: the DUI. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so this was the one season that Tamara
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  Speaker 3: should have been the most prepared armor on, ready to go.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that Tamara will still be a bridesmaid
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  Speaker 2: in the Alexis John Jansen wedding? No. No, no. Do
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  Speaker 2: you think she'll even attend?
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  Speaker 3: Probably not. Listen, like you said with the friendship bracelet,
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  Speaker 3: she's so hyper aware of the audience that she knows
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  Speaker 3: that that's not a good look. And I don't think
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  Speaker 3: she's genuinely that close to them anymore.
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  Speaker 2: No, of course not.
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  Speaker 3: Especially not after they threw John and Alexis under the
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: bus at the finale or right after the reunion when
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  Speaker 3: they all showed up at the house and were like,
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  Speaker 3: here's what John and Alexis told us at dinners last night.
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  Speaker 2: They did the Fab Force 5 OC edition.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever that is. Yeah. So I don't think that friendship
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  Speaker 3: is holding on too strong.
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  Speaker 2: Right. So we'll see. But obviously we all are thinking
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: about Teddy and her recovery. Mia of Real Housewives of Potomac.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: We've spoken a little bit about this show in that
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  Speaker 2: she was the one who was separated from her husband,
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: but he was still around Gordon. Her storyline was she
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: didn't know if one of her sons was Gordon's or not.
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  Speaker 2: Turns out it was Gordon's, and the girls all called
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  Speaker 2: her BS. In using her son as a fake storyline
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  Speaker 2: in that she probably always knew that he was her child's,
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  Speaker 2: that they were the actual dad. Otherwise, it would have
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  Speaker 2: been really fucked to have put that on camera, but
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  Speaker 2: it's also fucked just to have played with that. So
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: they called her on it on the show, and now
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  Speaker 2: she said... So after much reflections, I have made the
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  Speaker 2: difficult decision to step away from The Real Housewives of Potomac.
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  Speaker 2: This journey has been one of incredible blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 2: As a mother and a businesswoman, I have always prioritized
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  Speaker 2: taking care of those that I love. I'm beyond grateful.
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  Speaker 2: So a smart one, you know, also she should know
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  Speaker 2: that there's always room to come back.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And there's always room to be on the villain, the traitors.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever. Yeah, if she just– if it's like, yeah, I
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: can't go back and film with these people because they
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: probably are going to start in about a month. And
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  Speaker 2: she's probably just like, I can't do it.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think this was her choice?
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  Speaker 2: We'll never know. I think probably not. I think whenever
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: you walk off, they want to also make you– and
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: she walked off with most– she did most of the show,
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  Speaker 2: but she walked off probably the– you know, with a
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: couple hours left of filming of the reunion. And I
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: think that is a big no-no. It's a big no-no
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: not to show up.
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: And it's a big no-no to get up and leave.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: And they want to make an example so the other
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: women know that you just cannot do that because that's
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: what the show is. It's about holding you to the
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: fire at a reunion.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like this kind of puts the
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: final nail in the coffin for Potomac, though. I feel
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: like the show really went downhill when we lost Candace
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: and Monique. And then now we have Karen. Karen's locked up.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: She's not filming anymore. She hasn't made her official announcement,
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: but writing's on.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: The wall there. Or they do the whole pause until
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: she comes out. Oh, God. Because she'll be out in
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: a year.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: She only has to do a year, and she might
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: get out in nine months.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she'll Jen Shaw it.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm sure she will be lovely.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, Jen Shaw is working that system. She's out
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: next year.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: You know what's crazy?
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: 100% she'll be coming back to Salt Lake.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: I had a prison consultant on my podcast at the
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: time that she was getting ready to go to trial.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: You mean like that movie, like remember, you're from the
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: movie with Will Ferrell. He has to go to a
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: white collar prison. So he hires a prison consultant. So
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: there's a real thing.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: And what are the tips? Cause I, yeah.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: And so I asked him, so this was when she
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: was headed to trial and I was like, what do you,
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Jen Shaw? I was like, what do you think that
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: she should do? Like, how do you think that she
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: should navigate this to like get time reduced or to
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: not get time? Cause at this point she was still
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: innocent in her head. And so He gave me this
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: whole list. And like, this is what she do. She
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: should go into like a rehab alcohol program and that'll
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: get a year taken off. And he gave me this whole,
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: you know, list of things that she should do. And
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: then ultimately she ended up pleading guilty. But from there,
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: I think she ended up hiring him. And then she
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: ended up doing everything that he said to do on
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: my podcast.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: So and now look at it. She's following all the tips.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Now she's getting out early. She's doing Shawmazing Abs with
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Elizabeth Holmes. They had their Barbie prison pageant, and she's
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: making the best of it.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: I know what I'm going to do when I get,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: if I ever.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: Locked up.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Please, dear God, no. Is I would do a little
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: stand-up comedy class.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's smart.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: I would teach the girls. How to get five minutes together. Wow.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: And comedy is tragedy plus time. We all suffered some tragedy.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Let's hear what got you in here or your worst relationship.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: And you work on five minutes and we have a
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: little comedy show at the end of it. And then
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: the guards would be nice to everybody because they're entertained. First,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: I thought I would go in and learn to imitate
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: the guards so that the inmates would think I'm a
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: cool chick.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: But then I thought the guards will hate me for that.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: You've really thought this through.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: I'm concerned.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Yes. Also, how good will I look with solid gray hair?
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Because I'm not going to be able to get my
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Madison Reed dye job in there.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. Jen Shaw was doing beauty tips,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: and she was teaching the women how to read and write.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Did you read that? Oh, that's nice. She has her
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: little blog that she does, and so her team will
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: update people on Jen's diary entries. And she was teaching
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: the women how to read and write. And then she
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: was writing the screenplay about housewives in prison.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, I have to say, as a woman, I
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: do feel like female prison, based on which prison you
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: go to, is like a world of difference than if
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: you're a guy. I just think, you know, 99% of
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: hardened criminals are men. So, you know, and men are
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: just different. So I think it would be way worse
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: to be a guy going to prison than a woman
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: in general.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: In general. So like, okay. So anyway, people still want
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: to see like Housewives Behind Bars.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Employers, rewarding your staff with vouchers this year? Here's the
• 19:42
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• 19:48
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• 19:40
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• 19:40
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• 19:40
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• 19:41
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• 20:06
  Speaker 5: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: have faced tremendous setbacks, and yet somehow have found a
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Life is one long lesson of chaos. I'm heading to
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: the Emmys, and I have police complaints filed against me.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: what would you do if it was given back?
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: Where did that need come from, where you thought that
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: He said, I have a work dad. I need a
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: home dad. What happens next? When I came in, he
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: started crying.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: happens next.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: every day was. You're worth the work.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches. You can
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's get into the latest with Blake and Justin.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Blake Lively was wearing an odd dress. A lot of
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: people said it looked like a boba tea.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the boba tea.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I saw that.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: The boba tea.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: It was kind of a nude brown with black balls
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: on it. Yeah, it's latex. It looked kind of 1950s,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: almost kind of like a Minnie Mouse cartoony. And she
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: was at South... What is it?
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: South by Southwest.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Yes. To premiere A Simple Favor 2. And this was
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: kind of an interesting photo because behind where the fans are,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: she says hi to this woman. And this is coming
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: from who is this?
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Elridge, Elsie.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: OK, sorry. I want to give her props. She noticed
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: that if you were just watching this as a regular person,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: you just think she's talking to people behind the gates
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: to take photos, headshots, sign something. But this woman is
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: actually Paul Feig's, who is the director of the movie's wife.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Which is weird because, you know.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Why is she behind the thing acting like a fan?
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: So Blake walked right out of the car and passed
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: by this little, like, group of fans.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: And so what I think it was is they strategically
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: placed people that they needed to be there so that
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: it could look like people wanted to take selfies and
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: get off.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: And we're not going to ask her about Justin.
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: Correct.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: And they wanted to do that because even Anna Kendrick,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: like people try to ask her or Variety tried to
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: ask her about the Blake situation and that got shut
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: down really quickly.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I want to say really quickly what she said. The
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: clip I saw was she said, oh, I did ayahuasca
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: last year, so I don't remember anything. We saw recently
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: that Ariana Grande, when asked about her album, said, oh,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I went to this clinic that erased my memories, which
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: there is a real clinic like that. And then I,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: over the weekend, finally watched Blink Twice. Did you see
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Blink Twice?
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: No.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: You can watch it on Prime for free. And Zoe
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Kravitz wrote it. And it's very juicy about this billionaire
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: who has an island and people go on it. And
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: it's kind of Epstein-ish, kind of based on Me Too
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: and being in the industry is how she wrote the movie.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: But there is a part where their memories are erased.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: They can't remember stuff to tell. And so I'm like,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: it's kind of weird that that was a hit movie
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: and now people are saying this to get out of,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: I just think it's strange. But okay, so get back
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: to this premiere.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, so she got off, and she's taking selfies
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: with everybody, and, you know, it seems like it was
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: all preset that she was supposed to walk by this
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: one little group of people. Like, one of them conveniently
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: happened to be a guy that works at, like, a
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: domestic violence awareness hotline, and he just happened to be
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: there taking selfies with her, and he's, like, a big
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Blake fan. Is that the guy.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: In the black and white jacket? So some people are
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: accusing him of being a hired actor, and then another
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: person said, hey, just so you know, like, really dedicated
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: fans will go to every premiere and, and you do
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: as this start sometimes recognize some of your most dedicated
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: fans at things. So the fact that she was like, Oh, hi,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: isn't total BS, you know, like she really could recognize
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: him from previous things.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: But he was also in the venue and he would like,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: she was spotted with him a few different times at
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: the event, which tells me that like, they just got
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: a group of people and they wanted to make sure
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: that she had support and she had people that wanted
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: to take photos. I mean, but putting the director's wife
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: out there for a selfie is really stupid because she's
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: going to see her backstage anyway.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: They're going to be in the VIP section of the
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: party after. Like, that was very.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: That was dumb. But so, yeah. And it's just... It's obvious.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, but you know how a lot of these
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: things are. Like my background is in, you know, celebrity charities.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: And so we would do that. We would have the
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: family so that the celeb would walk by and like, oh,
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: here's the family from the grant program. From the charity.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: So that we could get the photo op with the photographer.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: And then they have the videographer. And surprisingly, that makes
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: it into our end of year campaign. Like all of
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: these things are also produced and like planned out that
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: that was not by accident.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: By the way, I'm just remembering when I first met you.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: And you worked for Jenny's charity, Jenny McCarthy. And we
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: did a comedy show in San Francisco. And I saw
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: the lineup. And normally, ego-wise, as a stand-up, you want
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: a headline. You want to go last. You know, that's
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: like a bigger thing.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you close the show.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Right. So I... Saw it, and I saw a couple
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: comedians go, and then there is a portion about what
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: the charity is for, to give, to show the work
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: they've done.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: And it's going to be a tear-jerker moment.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Okay? Of good, happy tears, but tears. So I kept
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: that to myself, and I said to whoever it was,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: it might have been you, I said, you know, now
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Whitney had to go before me.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Whitney Cummings.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Because she had another gig in San Francisco. So I
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: think I said something, Josh Wolf. I said, you know,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Josh is just higher energy and a stronger stand-up than
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I am.
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: So he should go. Just after me, meaning after, because
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: I was supposed to follow the sad video.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: So there's, so at these shows, so we have the comedians,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: but then there's a sad video in the middle. And
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: then that's where you call the audience to give, donate, like, oh,
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: pledge your support. But it's a sad video that's like,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: it brings down the tone in the room. And so
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: that's where we rely on the comedian to then bring
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: the tone back up.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: And so I saw I was number three. OK, so
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: it was like two people, sad video, two people. And
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know who the final person was, but it
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: was like another guy. And somehow I used the and
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I placated the ego. And I'm like, I think it'd
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: be better if it was like the two girls and
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: then the two guys. Because I'm like, the guys are
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: stronger than us, you know? And so I think it
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: was Whitney who had to go first because she left.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Then me, sad video. And then Josh. And so when
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I said to Josh, because he was supposed to be
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: number two, I go, oh, they want you to be
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: three because you're a stronger stand-up than me. He's like, no, no.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I go, no, just, I think it'll be better that
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: way that I follow Whitney. And then he realized and
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: he was like, he did it. And he's like, oh, thanks, Heather. Like, thanks.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: It still was all great. He's a professional.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Brought it back.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Made something about it. But it's one of those things. Okay,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: get back to Blake. So, okay, so the movie I
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: am excited for because I am a fan of the movie.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the movie, the trailer looked good. And I did, I, like,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: posted it on Instagram. And I was like, I know
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: we don't like her right now, but, like, the movie
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: actually looks good. And then people were like mad, like, oh,
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: now you're turning. And I was like, no, it was
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: just a movie. But the wife, what's interesting about the wife, Laura,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Laura Fee.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: The director's wife.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Director's wife. Is she's been in the comments defending Blake. She's, like, totally, yeah,
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: she's totally Nick Viall.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, I can't blame it if that's, you know,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: you got a movie coming out and you don't want
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: people to hate your star. Yeah.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Well, my point being, she, in the comments, said that, like,
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Blake has already been paid, so you're not going to
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: be hurting her by not watching the movie. And so... Interesting.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: So I was like, well, then at least I know
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: she's not getting royalties and I feel a little bit better. But,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: you know, she... It's been the biggest Blake defender, and
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: even the director came out and said that the rumors
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: about Blake and Anna not liking each other are completely false,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: which I've heard. I don't know if you've heard anything,
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: but I've heard the complete opposite. I heard that both
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Blake and Anna Kendrick, I heard that they're both not
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: easy to work with, and they absolutely do not like
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: each other.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: And they are just not. And that's why you don't
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: see a single photo of Blake and Anna together at
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: this premiere.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the interviews from before were like the...
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: like a scale of one to ten awkward at a
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: ten yeah like of them of her being like okay
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: but in watching her then get on stage and talk
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: like yeah she is the same person that we've seen
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: in the videos of she does the word salad she
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: tries to be funny the audio you know she is
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: kind of charming but she is long-winded like a Dorit
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: yeah like I get it and I get why if
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: you worked with someone like that for you know, five months,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: you'd be annoyed by her. But also, in her defense,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: she didn't seem that different. on a red carpet saying
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: hi to people. She was, hi, oh, I like this.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think sometimes those videos were picked apart
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: where someone gave her a bracelet, maybe it was the
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Tamra friendship bracelet, and she was like, thank you so much.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: It doesn't match my outfit, but thank you. And the
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: people were like, why wouldn't you put it on? I'm like, okay.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: There's some nitpicking. I'm like, please, you're on a red carpet.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: You're being gracious enough. Yeah. But, okay, what, since we've talked,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: since it's been a minute, since, what else has gone
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: on legal-wise just catch us up with what's happening? Is
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: it still looking like March 26th? Do you think it'll
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: happen earlier, the trial?
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like every week it gets worse
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: and worse for her, legally. Because, like, so, obviously, I
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: think since I was last here, they did SNL, which
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: obviously was a bad look. And I know Bethany came
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: out and she's like, this was brilliant. And I was like,
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: this is stupid.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: They went to the SNL thing and... Ryan did that joke.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: He did a joke about it, yeah.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Which then he wrote the joke.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he wrote the joke and then the cue card
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: guy came out and was like, oh yeah, I get
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: a different joke and he changed it at the last
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: minute and then SNL was like, we don't know who
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: this cue card guy is. He doesn't, no, they said
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: he doesn't work in the creative department. He wasn't in
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: the meetings for writing the joke. I'm like, I believe
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: the crew people. Like, cue card Wally is not gonna
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: lie about seeing.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: But also now, like, do you imagine, like, you're trying
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: to get a job as cue card guy and they're like,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: we also need to sign that you won't do any podcasts.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Ever and talk about the, I'm sure now they're like, oh,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I guess we never had the cue card guy like
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: sign the NDA. We've had everybody else do it, but yeah.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: But so Bethany Frankel said that it was the smartest move.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: They was brilliant. And I called it from the beginning.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: I was like, this is going to be used against them.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: I go, maybe it's brilliant PR wise because everyone's talking
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: about them and everyone's talking about it's now cute, whatever.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: But like, this is going to be used against them legally.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: And so it was brought up in court. that they're
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: not taking this seriously and she's doing red carpets.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: You can't be now acting like, oh, isn't this funny
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: and ridiculous when you started it because you said you
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: were sexually harassed. If there was no sexual harassment to
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: it and this was just a lawsuit in, I think
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: that you did an internet smear campaign against me and
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I'm going after you for that, then you At maybe
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: one point you can make life of the ridiculousness of it. Yeah.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: But not when that is also part of your case. Right.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: And it's connected to the movie, which is, you know,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: about DV. Like, there's so many layers to it that
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: just make any sort of jokes about it inappropriate. So
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: it was brought up in court. Because right now what
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: she's trying to do, her team is fighting to— Blake's team.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Blake Lively's team is fighting to— They want a protective order,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: but they want an attorney's eyes only protective order, which
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: means anything that gets brought up in discovery can only
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: be reviewed by the attorney. So they can't even share
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: that with like Justin, like none. And they're trying to say, oh, well,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: it's because we have, you know, privileged information, like my
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: publicist client list that like can't get leaked. And that's
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: like you have a celebrity publicist and you don't want
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: her client list to get leaked.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: And that's kind of saying like just because you have
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: famous friends, Taylor Swift, you They don't get special protective order. Correct.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Just like the president of the United States doesn't. So
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: it's like, you're not going to get it just because
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: you're a super famous person. If we say we want
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: to see the text messages between you and Taylor, you're
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: going to have to turn those over or we're going
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: to get them on our own through Mint Mobile.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Through Mint Mobile. But she's withdrawn. She's since withdrawn the subpoena.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: So she's not, she doesn't want his phone records anymore.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: And she's, I think.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: So she's saying, I don't want your phone records, but
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: I don't want you to ask for mine. Correct.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Correct. That's kind of the latest. She's withdrawn those subpoenas.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: So she's no longer or she may be amending it,
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: but she's withdrawn them because the judges basically said that
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: that was kind of ridiculous. But we had a hearing
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: last week that was not the strongest case from her side.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: She has there like five attorneys representing her and then
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Brian Friedman's representing everybody on the Wayfair side. But we'll
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: we'll have to see. The text messages from Taylor Swift
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: are probably going to end up coming. That's that may be.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: And Bradley Cooper is probably also going to get dragged
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: into this, too. So there are a lot of famous
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: people that may get deposed or have text messages revealed.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: And so I think if there's going to be a settlement,
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: those conversations are probably happening now so that that privileged
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: information doesn't get out. Because the judge doesn't seem like
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: he's protecting her celebrity friends.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: So do you think Taylor is going to have to
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: be subpoenaed?
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: It's possible. It's not looking good. We have to wait
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: to hear what the judge says this week about the
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: protective order. But the judge didn't really seem to be
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: entertained by this celebrity argument. He's kind of just like,
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: listen— if you're going to trial, this is all going
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: to come out in trial anyway, whether you want to
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: prevent it from coming out now or next March, like
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: it's coming.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: And so I did get a lot of comments because
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Nick was very team, um, Blake and Ryan. Um, and
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: he was on my show on Thursday, Nick Vial. And, um,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: what are your thoughts about the show about our conversation
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: about it?
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Um, I thought you did a good job. I listen,
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: he's not that he doesn't, you know, think that hard
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: about things. But he has 15 podcast co-hosts that do
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: that for him. But like, he clearly has not read
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: these court documents as he told you. He just, it's
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: obvious that he is not. It's obvious that he, even
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: if you put, like, let's just focus on the sexual
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: harassment because that's like the really serious stuff. One, she's
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: presented zero evidence to support that. And if anything, evidence
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: that has come out has debunked some of her claims already.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Like the clearest one that shot her credibility was when
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: she said that, you know, the producers showed her porn
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: and his naked wife And then we find out that
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: it was his wife's home birth video and you don't
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: even see anything. She's holding the baby in her arms
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: and he's, you know, they have the newborn baby and
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: she had just given birth. So yeah, technically she's naked,
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: but you don't see any parts. And she described that
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: in her lawsuit as a pornographic image of the wife
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: that was shown to her, which to me is just
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: like ridiculous, you know? And so. or when she said
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: that he smelled her and said that she smelled so good.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: And then we saw the raw footage and the raw
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: footage didn't play out that way. She's like, oh, my
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: spray tan smells, which you've had spray tans. They have
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: a very distinct smell and you're insecure about it. So
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: she's like, oh, my spray tan smells, sorry. And he's like, oh,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: don't worry. It smells fine. Or it smells good. And
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: she's like, oh, that's just my body makeup. And it's
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: like these things that clearly show that what she's describing
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: and what is being shown in like footage and photos
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: are very objective evidence. That's not somebody's opinion. Like you
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: can see that and it's very clear. So when you
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: have a number of these things that are shooting the credibility,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: it's just it's not looking good for her. So, Nick,
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: I wish I would love to have a conversation with Nick.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: I know he would never have a conversation with me
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: about this. I would even do it here on Juicy
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Scoop for you, Heather. Neutral territory. You could be the
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Andy Cohen.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Well, I didn't really notice until Dave Neal, who like
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: analyzed it. was saying how, you know, cause I, I left,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: I like Nick as a person.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: So I left and I liked that we were on
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: opposite sides and I didn't find him to, some people
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: felt he was like, they felt he was being disrespectful
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: to me or trying to manipulate my opinion. Or he's like,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: what's the evidence? What's the evidence? And I kept giving
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: him evidence just off the top of my head. Not
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: like I'm a lawyer, but, um, It still didn't bother me.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I still thought it was, like, done with respect, and
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I still thought it was interesting. But, I mean, the
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: amount of comments I got on YouTube, I have to say,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: made me wonder slightly. Though I pretty much have the
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: same amount of people watching every episode, so I believe
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: they're real juicy scoopers. I'm not saying they're bots. But
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: if I was to think that, I would go, well,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: maybe Justin's people really are. Because the only other time
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I got a lot was when I had Coco Moco on.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: about two months ago, and at that time she was,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know where she is now with it, but
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: at that time she was still very team Blake. And
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: those are the only times I've gotten like, and not
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: towards me, like not mean towards me, which makes me
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: think I do believe they are my real listeners and
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: watchers that are just, were not happy with the, what
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: was feeling like, you know, they don't agree with his opinion,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: which they have every right to comment. But that is
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: sort of interesting.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: I was like, hmm. The thing with Nick is he,
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: and I'm sure he's a nice dude personally. I've never
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: met him. But I just think there's, he's so pompous
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: and arrogant when he throws down his statements. And it's like, well,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: if you want the evidence, I'm like, where's your evidence
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: to support anything? I get it. You like Ryan Reynolds.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: But his evidence was too that he got a bad vibe.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: That's my point. So that's not hard evidence. He's like, oh, well,
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: I met Justin Baldoni one time, and he meditated in
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: front of us, and I just got bad juju from that.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, that's hardly groundbreaking. But thank you
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: for that hard-hitting evidence. But so I just think with
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: this case specifically, because it's become so popular, and I
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: think people see that just... The more we really analyze this,
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: the more we see Justin Baldoni really seems to be
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: the underdog in all of this. And so I just
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: think people... wanting to root for him and they've become
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: so enraged and I think a lot of it too
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: is it's like there are people that understand harassment in
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: the workplace and they don't feel like anything that she's
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: described reflects that and I think it kind of like
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: hurts people that have experienced that.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: I think it was interesting too that Nick said he's
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: got this billionaire he has more money to go after
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: this and And I'm like, but again, he didn't go
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: after it.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't start this.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And, you know, and then I read like in
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: the end, if he was really to prevail, they would
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: be like broke because people analyze how much he's made
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: off these movies, whatever. I disagree with that. Yeah. I
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: think they're going to be, everyone's going to be fine
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: in the end. But anyway, so.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: I just haven't heard one like really good critical argument
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: that's pro-Blake that's not just about like feelings over facts
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: right or like I why would she do this if
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: you know well she was trying to save her I
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: don't think she ever thought it would get this far
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: and then did you see the article that came out
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: last week about Baldoni I think it was in the
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: LA Times they did this whole piece on him and
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: only to find out the biggest the juiciest piece of
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: this like expose that they did on him was that
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: One of the former employees that used to work for
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: him says that his work environment was toxic positivity. Like,
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: that's the worst that they've dug up on this dude.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: And they've been coming after him for months at this point.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I remember when I was at Chelsea lately, on the
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: third floor was Ross Matthews' talk show that lasted like
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: a year or something. And we were on the fourth floor.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: And they said, people were like, do you know what's
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: going on on the third floor? I'm like, what? They're like,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Ross meets with his group. And it's like, everybody, we're
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: just going to do an emotional check-in or whatever, and
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: everybody has to say something positive about somebody. And it
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: was the complete opposite of what was going on on
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: the fourth floor, though we had a lot of fun.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: It was a different mindset. And I'm like, oh, so
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: now toxic positivity can be a negative thing? Like, you
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: just can't win. But do you think that Taylor and
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Lance– Lance, sorry. Taylor and Blake will– continue their friendship
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: or is it she's completely ghosting.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Her no I mean come on if one of your
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: friends called you a dragon and said they were the
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Khaleesi like I would be if I were Taylor Swift
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: I would be pissed I'd be like I'm never talking
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: to you again back in.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: The day people used to go this was like years
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: ago there was a Mary Tyler Moore and it was
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Mary Tyler Moore had a best friend named Rhoda so
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: people would be like I'm the Mary and I'm the
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Rhoda no You know, no, no, no, I'm the Mary,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: you're the Rhoda, or I'm the Lucy, you're the Ethel. No. Like,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: I'm the, and that's the way, it's the same thing, like,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: wait a minute. Yeah. Like, you are not, you are not.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: But it's very obvious who the Lucy is here.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not the mean girl, and we're the, yeah.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: No, it's very obvious who the bigger celebrity is, and
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: that would be Taylor Swift. She's not a dragon. She, well,
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: I don't even know if I would call her Khaleesi,
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: because doesn't Khaleesi die?
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: But he, um.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Like, she doesn't make it.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But also, it's like, Taylor, Taylor Swift. She did
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: that whole squad. And she has a weird relationship with girls.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: She, you know, the story I once heard about Taylor,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: which I kind of loved. But, you know, she was
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: this girl that I think was perceived as a geek
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: in high school. But had this enormous talent. And because
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: she had confidence and talent to play instruments and her
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: mom was supporting that, the girls were like, who does this?
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Geek thinks she is thinking she's going to be the
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: next singer. And they were extremely cruel. So then she
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: becomes a star. And the story goes, the legend goes
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: that at one time she invites like the whole, invites
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: them all to a show or something. Only to like
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: show them like, fuck you. Something like that. You know,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: straight with I'm in the bleachers and now she's the
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: quarterback's girlfriend. Like or whatever he is. So I think
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: in collecting these popular friends, what happens to someone in
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: high school can affect you so much for the rest
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: of your life, whether you were the most popular or
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: maybe you were in the middle of the road but
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: you had one fucked up friendship thing. For me, I
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: have stuff from high school that haunts me to this day.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: And it really shapes and you carry that forever yeah
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: which you know can make you a more successful person
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: or can really fuck you up forever so it's like
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: yeah i think that then she collected all these popular
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: my squad and this and that i think blake was
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: one of the cool girls that she collected that she's
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: easily like to.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah replace bring back gg hadid yeah who cares swap
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: her out yeah nobody's gonna notice.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah i'll find some other cool chick so all
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: right we'll see done Meghan Markle had her show debut.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: It's on Netflix. I think there's like.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Meghan Sussex.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Meghan Sussex, right. Oh, like Mindy Kaling in the show.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: So it is a cooking, gardening, crafting show. It's on Netflix.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: I watched two full episodes. There's like eight or something.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: She announced it got a second season. However, I read
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: that They already filmed the second season, which they often
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: do in these shows to be budget friendly. And they
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: film it not at her house, down the street at
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: a similar type Montecito house, which I don't blame her
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: for that either. Why would you have cameras and everything
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: if someone's like, we can do it down the street?
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: But they have her barefoot. They have her sitting on
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: the ground sometimes. It's supposed to be this imperfect stuff.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: And she's getting a lot of hate for it. About
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: her lack of being authentic. And I was a Meghan
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Markle fan in the beginning. I didn't understand the hate.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: And I was like, I felt a kingship with her.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: She went to an all-girl Catholic high school in L.A.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: She went to a good university, you know, grew up
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: in L.A. Dad was in the business. And I was
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: just like, God, what is this? Like when she was
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: getting married. Yeah. But since then, I understand the hate.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: I'm going to explain what the hate is. The hate
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: is coming from women because they don't believe that she
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: deserves these opportunities now. I think she can act. I
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: think she can learn lines. I think she was good
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: on Suits. I think she could act again. I think
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: she was a bad podcaster. And I think people were like,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: why did she get this big podcast that she dialed
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: in and sucked at? And there are so many other
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: women that do this on YouTube or do it at
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: home that know how to cook and do creative things.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: And basically she's doing that, acting like she's authentic when
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: she's not. And that's what angers them is that the
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: show is boring and she's boring and she doesn't deserve
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: this opportunity. But I would say in defense of her,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Of course she's going to take this opportunity. And this
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: is an easy-ass show to do. This is easier than
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: her traveling through different countries and trying food like Bourdain.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: This is easier than learning medical dialogue to be an
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: actress in a multi-cam thing where you have to be
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: there for 12 hours. You literally walk down the street.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: You're in charge of your own thing. You have some
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: cute friends come on. It's a fucking easy job. Yeah,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: it's an easy job. And they gave her 100 million
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: dollars and she chose an easy way to make that
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: 100 million. And that is what people are angry about.
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't I don't blame you. I also
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: just think. It's the way she tries to be relatable
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: and she's just so not relatable that to me, like,
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: makes me roll my eyes. I mean, I do agree
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: with you. Like, you know, there are people that, you know,
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: work really hard to build what they have. And then
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: there are people like Meghan Markle or Nick Viall who
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: kind of just capitalize off of what their agent secures them,
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: like a hundred million dollar Netflix deal. But her show
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: is so boring and out of touch when she's just like,
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: but what it is, it's like, like Gwyneth Paltrow, right?
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: She got a lot of hate. But she owns it.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: She's like, I'm not like you peasants. Like, I'm a
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: rich bitch, and I don't.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: I've never made soup out of a can in my life.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I have a JDAG up my hoo-ha, and
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna rock it, right? Whereas Meghan Markle's like, oh,
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: I'm wearing Zara pants. And then you see that she's
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: wearing $ 50 Zara pants with a $ 1, 500 cashmere sweater on
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: top of that, that I'm just like.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: While you're cooking.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: While you're cooking in all white nudes. Remember when she
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: was in the royal family, and she was just like, oh,
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: I only wore nude colors because I didn't want to, like...
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: overshadow the queen and wear purple because the queen likes
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: purple or whatever. So to me, it's like all of
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: the inconsistencies in her story and her just like, I'm
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: Jenny from the block. And it's like, you're not Jenny
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: from the block. You're Jennifer Lopez.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: And Jenny's not Jenny from the block. Jennifer Lopez, she,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Hilaria Baldwin, and Blake. Yeah. They should get together and
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: have a boring off.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: And see who could be more inauthentic or more, I
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: don't know. I want to take J-Lo out of it, honestly,
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: because I do think she could be more interesting. But
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: I think Blake, Kalaria and and Megan are very similar
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: in that they realize what's happening right now in media
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: and that's being authentic. And they're not.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: No.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: And so they go these other like, you know, cheating
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: ways to try to be authentic. Barefoot to talk about, oh,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: I'm actually not going to make the pretzels. I'm going
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: to put it in another bag. First of all, I've
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: had people. I just had a girlfriend come over to
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: my house because I bought a new house. And she
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: was so sweet. And she did make a beautiful basket
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: for me. And she's also hosted a party for me
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: after one of my stand-up shows. And she does know
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: how to do this shit. And I don't. So I
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: appreciate people that like to do all that cute shit.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: I don't even know where you buy bags that are
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: not Ziploc. I have no idea. Okay, whatever, I'm not
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: doing it.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: I'm not buying burlap, but.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: I get it and I think it's cute. And when
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: people have done it for me, I do truly appreciate it.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: But was I bored by the shows?
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: But then I was like weirdly fascinated because I was like,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: oh my God. So then she has a bee maker,
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Brandon the Bee Man.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Oh God, the Bee Man.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: And she's like, I have found bees. And then she's like,
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: how long does a bee live for? And they're like,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: four weeks. I'm like, well, then you're not a beekeeper
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: because wouldn't you know?
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: She also won't touch the fucking bees.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then I'm like, first of all, watching that,
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: I'm like, honey should be $ 85 a jar. Like I
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: had no idea how fucking hard it is to make honey.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: This should be a lot more expensive. A lot more expensive.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: So the honey, she puts the pretzels, you know, and
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: then she's like, and Daniel, my kids call him Uncle Daniel. No,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: they don't. No. They've never met Daniel.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: They don't know him.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: You're a gay makeup artist, but you're trying to act like, oh,
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: they call him Uncle Daniel. And I'm like, and then
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: she's like, and I don't know if he's gluten-free or not,
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: or I don't know if he has a net agile.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: I thought he spent the night at your house. Well, no.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: How would you not know that?
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: What I love about that is she's like, I'm putting
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: together peanut butter pretzels because Daniel's favorite snack is peanut butter.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: But let me put it in a new bag and
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: then write peanut butter on it just in case he
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: has a nut allergy. And I was like, you just
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: said peanut butter is his favorite snack.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: And then I thought there were all these hints to
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: combat the rumors that she treats staff horribly. Like, oh,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: remember when you didn't even have an agent and you
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: had to find your own makeup artist and you were
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: so loving towards me?
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: And then when she's like, Hey, guys. Oh, we're breaking
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: the fourth wall. Try a berry. I'm giving you, little
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: peasant cameraman, a berry. Also, in this article or one
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: of the things I read, the staff is 80 people.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: 80 people on this crew to make a rainbow of fruit.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: And they contacted the woman who originated the rainbow of
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: fruit platter. And she knows what to be smart about.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, maybe it was originally my idea. Maybe
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: it wasn't. It's out there. Who cares? She was classy
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: about it, which is a smart thing to do. Because
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: she's probably like, I don't know. Maybe she'll bring me on.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to fucking bash her. So there's all
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: of that. And then these two girlfriends come on. One
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: is an actress, and the other one is some other
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: girl who's pretty. And she's like, we've been through so much.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: We've been through so much. What have you been through? Like,
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: give us some juice.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: Nothing.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: Not, oh, remember when we were in New Orleans and,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: you know, Tamara ran out of the show? No, there
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: was no juice.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: There's nothing.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: And so she's doing that. And then they have their
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: tea party. With Mindy Kaling, I think they met on
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: her podcast. They probably have the same agent. Mindy was like,
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: fuck yeah, I want to go to Montecito and see this.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: And then she puts this weird position where she's like,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: my mom loved Taco Bell. And she's like, I don't
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: think people realize that Meghan Markle likes Jack in a
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Box or whatever it is. And first of all, before
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: she corrected her on the name, you lived in L.A.,
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: We've all had Jack in the Box and Taco Bell.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: You're 40-whatever, three years old. That's not weird. It would
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: be different if maybe Prince Harry said, I love Jack
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: in the Box. I grew up eating Jack in the
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Box when I was in the— and I hid it from
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: the king.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's kind of unusual when you have, like, a
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: full-time chef. No. And then she's like, it's so funny
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: that you say Markle when my name is Sussex. And
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: then she's like, it's my little family at Sussex because
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: we all share the same name, which, by the way.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: Not true.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Mindy Kaling is, you know, an out single mother. Yeah.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: We don't know who the father of her kids are,
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: but whatever. She doesn't have a she doesn't say that
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: there is a present father. OK, which is great. And
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: her choice. I love it. But I thought that was
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: a little rude. Yeah. to be like, this is our
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: name and this is our little family. Like if I,
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: I would never say that to my friends who are
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: single moms. Something about it was like a little insensitive
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: of who you're talking to.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: I think it's because she doesn't even really know Mindy's story.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: She probably doesn't even know that there's no dad in
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: the picture. Like it's so, and that's when she referenced
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: her $ 50 Zara pants with her $ 1, 500 cashmere.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: And I feel like they asked Mindy to ask that.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Like just make sure that you know that she's down
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: to earth.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: And she gives us a berry sometimes. And sometimes I,
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: you know, I get a bite of the omelet.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Which was so stupid that that scene, how they
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: opened every episode, she's just like, oh, Mindy's on her way.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: Let me make her a quick omelet. I hope I
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: have eggs. And then she opens the first thing. Oh,
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: thank God I have eggs. And then she.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: But also you have chickens, right? Like you have the
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: chickens and you have the eggs. And how many eggs
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: it is. And yeah, just something I like to do.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: And I was like, well, and nobody wants dried flowers
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: on everything. But then someone said that's one of her products.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: Where's her products?
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: No, it's going to be a dried flower thing. Just
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: like you would sprinkle red pepper. Who's buying that?
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: Not me.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: I think it looks like crap. I don't want dried
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: flowers on my food. So I was watching it. I
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: have a lot of guilt as being a working mom.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: And I'm watching it with Peter, my husband, and I go,
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know, this sort of makes me sad that
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: I didn't make sandwiches with the crust cut and into
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: stars and Stuff like that. People are like, why did
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: you ask your two sons? I mean, neither of them
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: give a shit. And I'm like, oh, my God, you're
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: probably right. How would I? And then someone's like, you
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: can't do this when there's actually two kids.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: Crawling on you.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: You can't do all these cute things. And she's like,
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: I just think it's really great that– My kids get
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: to see their mom working. They don't get to see
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: you working because you go next door and do it.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: And then you're back. And then so then she goes
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: on Drew Barrymore, which was two worlds collide. And Drew's like,
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: I want to talk about because whenever anybody knows you
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: and Harry, they say you guys are so hot for
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: each other. And I love that because I have not
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: had sex in nine years. I've not been on a
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: date like you always talk about. Yeah.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: So then.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Megan goes, well, you know, we're both so crazy busy.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: We're so crazy busy. And between getting up at 630
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: before my kids wake up, every mom does, and making
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: them breakfast, every mom does, and getting them off to school.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: And then the two of us are just doing crazy
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: meetings and calls. But every day we meet for lunch
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: just to have a connect. And every day, H and
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: I have lunch together. And I'm like, first of all,
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: I hate that she calls him H. I hate it.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: And so I was like, I don't know, it really
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: bothered me. And I'm like, I don't know if it's
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: because his mom named him Harry and she's gone and
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: nobody ever called him H and she just calls him H.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: It's one thing to maybe call him H in the house,
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: but you're on a talk show. Why wouldn't you just
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: call him Harry? But I get it. They have their thing.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: So I was talking to my son, Drake, who's 22.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: And I was telling him why it's bothered me. And
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: I go, if you had a girlfriend and she just
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: started calling you D. No one's ever called you D.
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Would that bother you? And he goes, no. And he goes,
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: but if my girlfriend started calling me drakey poo, I
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: think that'd be weird because that's what I call it.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: And I go, all right, maybe you're right. Maybe it's
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: not that weird. So I'm saying maybe I can, just
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: like Dave Neal said, I can see both sides.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: Maybe.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's not that weird that she's named him H.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: But I think it's weird. And to the point where
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: then Drew brings her a photo of when Drew met
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: Princess Diana and she's holding the stuffed animal or something,
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: giving it to Diana. And it's a black and white
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: photo and it's cute. And they're like cooking or something.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: And she's like, I just want to show you. She's
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: so excited. Drew's like, I'm so excited to show you
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: this photo of me and Princess Diana. And she's like.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: You could tell. She was like, oh, look at your
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: little face. Not, oh, look how beautiful she was. You
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: know what? She loved meeting all children. I know you
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: were a star, but she was just as lovely when
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: she went to villages. And I love that you have
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: this photo. Something like that. It was like, oh, look
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: how cute your little face is. Yeah, I'll have to
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: share that with H. And it was just like moving on.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, my God. And then my
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: other thing in the Drew Barrymore show that drove me
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: crazy is she goes, you know, When I was in college,
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: I was a part-time nanny for two Irish Catholic families.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: And one of the dads said to me, you know what, Meg,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: when you meet your husband, I hope that he remembers
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: to date you throughout your marriage because that's what I
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: do with my wife. made-up story for a few reasons,
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: is what I'm gonna say. As an Irish Catholic person,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: I like it, I don't like it that the Irish
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Catholic dad was talking to his 20-year-old nanny about who
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: she might marry. That's fucking weird, and I don't believe
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: the story. And I believe it was a diss to
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: her own dad because she had a dad raising her
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: all through Immaculate Heart, doing all the sets for the plays,
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: paying for Northwestern, And, you know, granted, her parents weren't together,
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: but that's just a weird thing. And so I think
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: she heard the story of Date Your Wife and wanted
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: to put it in a context and an origin. Like,
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: while I was a working college student, I had other
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: father figures that said this to me. I don't believe
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: that story. And Drew was like. I don't think she
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: believed it either.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: No, and I think there's a lot of those stories
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: that she gives. Well, I heard that the reason she
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: calls him H is because when she first started dating him,
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: it was something to do with his anonymity, and that
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: would be his secret... secret name is H so that
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: nobody knew he was Prince Harry.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: Well, now, you know what? That kind of makes more
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: sense now. I'm going to give her the break on
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: the H thing.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: No, but it's one thing to call him H privately,
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: but when you're publicly doing interviews, that's what's annoying. That's
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying, yeah. It's like nobody knows him as H.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: He's Prince Harry, or you can call him by his
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: name out of respect for your husband when you're speaking
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: about him publicly.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: And the woman who named him. Yeah. And, yes.
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: So I also heard in a weird interview, and don't
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: know if this is true, that when they were dating,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: now she, said, I never even heard of the Royals, whatever.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: But then college students said, oh, she had all the
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: books and loved the stories of Diana, which many of
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: us did. We all loved Diana growing up. And that
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: she wore her perfume on the first date, the perfume
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: that she would always wear.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: I think I heard this too.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: But then when I was reading the comments, no one
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: knew the perfume. So I'm like, this could be a
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: BS story. If we What is the perfume? Is it,
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: you know, Caroline Herrera? What is it? Like, I don't know.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: So that's kind of interesting. And and so good for
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: her for getting another show. I'm thinking if they've already
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: filmed next season, it probably won't be a change. But
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: if they hadn't, I would be like, change it up, have.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: someone bring in their favorite recipe and you try to
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: make it or whatever. But she's such a control freak
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: that I don't think that that would really work. And
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: I think that she is very, like the other thing
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: that I think is that she talks to everybody like they're,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: like she should be a preschool teacher. She talks to
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: everybody like they're a preschooler and like, okay, but you
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: know what would be better if you cut it like
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: this and dah, dah, dah. And I think she is
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: with that, like that with H. Yeah. And I think
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: with H, she gently, you know, will take his hand
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: and show him what to do. And you've seen that
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: in interviews where when she like made fun of the
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: curtsy and he was like horrified. There's things like that
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: where he's just like, I think they are in love.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: I don't, you know, I think they're in love, but
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: I think it's a it's. a unique relationship.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: Well, he has mommy issues and she works that out
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: for him. Like she parents him and tells him what
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: to do and controls that relationship. And she loves having
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: the control and he loves being told what to do.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: Like it's so obvious that it's, you know, he lacked
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: a mother figure and she fills that role for him,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: which is why she constantly compares herself to Diana so
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: that she reminds him, I'm just like your mom. And
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: she keeps him under that spell.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: And also that story about the Irish Catholic dads giving her,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: you know, marriage advice. She was married before. Yeah. She
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: was married before to a whole person.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Did she date that guy?
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: Who she was still married to when she met H.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: Did they have lunch every day?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Did they? And then, but like every story is so
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: boring when she's like, you know, what's funny is when
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: I got Suits, I, it was, I thought it was
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: filmed in Toronto. And then, so I spent some time
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: in Toronto and then it got picked up for next season.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: And then I was in Toronto again. And it was
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: so funny because I was like, am I living in
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: Toronto now? There's nothing funny about that. I don't think
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: I've met a least funny person. Has she ever told
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: a remotely funny story? I think she's smart. I don't
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: think she's a mean person. I just think she's an
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: odd bird that has created false news. origin stories and
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: things like a lot of stars have, Jay Shetty and whatnot,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: and then they believe it. And I think he does
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: love her and I think he definitely doesn't want to
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: ever break up his family or anything. But I don't think,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: they're not, what are these big meetings? After this deal
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: is done, there are no other deals in the works.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: So what big thing... You remember when Harry, his Netflix ideas? Oh, no,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: his podcast ideas?
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he wanted to interview, what, like, Putin and, like,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: have these sit down.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: And say, why are you a sociopath or a psychopath
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: and I'm not? That's what I was like. You're a
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: psychopath and I'm not. Come sit down with... I just
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: saw a commercial, but I never know what is real
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: anymore if it's on, like, TikTok. Yeah.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: And.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: It's hinting that King Charles is going to have a podcast.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Have you heard this?
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: What? Why? Why not? I mean. He's going to talk
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: about Amory?
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: At home with me and Camilla.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be everything from, I'm sure, politics,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: charities to housewives. I don't know.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: Sounds like the vile files.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: Yes. So then the dad spoke up. And Megan's daddy said,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: I know when she's. Faking it for the camera. She's
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: trying so hard to be perfect that she tenses up
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: every time the camera's on her. I think it's weird
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: that he still is talking negative about her. I mean,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: he knows he's never going to meet the kids.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's probably why. He's bitter about it.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: He's bitter, and I'm guessing he is getting a little
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: bit of money every time he talks to somebody.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: Like a five grand or something just to give a quote.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Because otherwise, why would you at this point? Because it's
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: not getting you anywhere. You're not getting your own cooking show.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: It's so interesting.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: We haven't heard from the sister.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah. She had her book. But I feel like
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: it's very similar to Blake Lively. Yeah. Nobody from their
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: past is coming out with nice things to say.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: Right? Yeah.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: Nobody has any nice, fun stories with them. Even Mindy Kaling.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: She was promoting her new Kate Hudson show on Netflix.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: And she's just like, I'm here to talk about my
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Kate Hudson show, not about Meghan Markle.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: And so she, like, wants to be removed from the narrative.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: And it's just, it's so interesting that the only people
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: that we do have that are willing to speak out
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: about her are her own family that she's discarded, her
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: sister and her dad. And they have nothing nice to
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: say about her. Like, when was the last time you
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: heard one of Meghan, Serena Williams? Why wasn't she on
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: the Meghan show?
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: Because she was, she's friends.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: What about all the people that went to the wedding?
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: And the, and the. bridal shower, the baby shower. Remember
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: she had that shower in New York with all the celebrities?
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, where are they? And none of them showed up?
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: They're with Taylor Swift not answering the calls. And then
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: what about candle making?
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Fourth grade field trip at the San Fernando Mission am
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: I fucking on right now? Because this is, like, something I'm, like,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: my worst.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: And it was the wax from the bees. She's like,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: let me recycle the bee wax.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: As someone who doesn't cook, I actually love watching, like,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: cooking shit. Yeah. And I keep thinking, like, I'll do it.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: So this happened over the weekend. James Kennedy came out
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: and he performed for the first time in a while
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: since his arrest and dismissal of domestic violence.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: And he took a photo with the Tate brothers, who
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: are both very problematic, awful. I don't even want to
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: get into it. So he took a photo with them.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: And then what happened?
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: So he took the photo he posted. He said, that's
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: a Bitcoin, which is obviously a reference to when Raquel
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: gave him the ring back at the reunion a couple
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: of seasons ago. And then I guess there was so
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: much backlash and people are like, oh, my gosh, because,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: you know, the Tate brothers are very controversial.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: So then he issued a statement and he's just like, oh, sorry,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: I didn't know who they were. I just thought they
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: were like podcasters. And everyone was like, what? Like, how
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: do you not know who they are? So then one
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: of the brothers, so I guess it's Andrew and the
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: other brother is Tristan Tate.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: I kind of believe that he might not know who
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: they are. I kind of do. It's after a show.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know who they are, and I even know
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: not to take a selfie with them and post it
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: on Instagram. Yeah, I wouldn't have posted it. I know
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: enough about them.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: I understand how sometimes you have to take a photo
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: with someone, but you don't have to post or repost.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: And so he did that, and then he issued a statement.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: He's like, I did my research, and I condoned their behavior,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: like the whole PR talk. And then the Tate brother
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: came out, and he's just like, that's bullshit. He sat
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: with us and talked to us for 30 minutes. He
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: called us heroes. and he very much knew who we were.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: So for him to educate himself on who we are, Like,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: he didn't just think we were a podcast host that
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: was a fan of Vanderpump Rules, which is what he
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: said in his statement. I just thought they were Vanderpump
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: Rules fans, and I wanted to take a photo with them. Like, bullshit. Again, even,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know any, I didn't even know that the
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: second Andrew Tate brother had a name. So the fact
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: that I know enough about them to not want to
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: take a selfie with them and post about it, because
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: that's obviously going to set the internet on fire, and
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: I'm very good at doing that already, and this is
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: one move I would not make. He knew better than this. And,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: you know, right now he's crying to Lisa. Oh, Lisa.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: And he's like, you know, because he's so stupid.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: James, you can't be taking photos with people that are problematic.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: And you've got to ask. Don't. I mean, just do
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: your get your turntables and shut the fuck up.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: Well, especially because, like you said, the charges were dismissed
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: against him. So lucky. Yeah, and he has his gig back.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: Everybody forgot. Like, everybody was moving on at this point.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: Just stop stepping in shit.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: And this is the one thing he decides to do.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: And it's like, oh, my God.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: Speaking of which, The Valley is coming back for the
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: second season. And Jax did an interview with Alex Baskin,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: and he talked about his addiction. So brave. Brittany went
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: on her podcast, which she used to do with him.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: Now she's got control of it. And I listened to it.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: Kristen Doty was with her. Also cast on The Valley.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: And it was great. She was like, there are 31
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: lies I counted that I have written down in the
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: Alex Baskin podcast, but I'm only going to mention a few.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: And basically, you know, he has partied and And then
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: come home and yelled at her and been hung over
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: and verbally abused her for years. Has not been very
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: difficult to co-parent with. And we are going to see
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: it all on The Valley. And she believes that's why
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: he wanted to jump ahead of it, which is what
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: I said. Do this interview. Let people know that he's like,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: I have had an addiction with cocaine and alcohol on
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: and off for 20 years. I am sober now 100 days.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: And so anything you're going to see on the show,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: just know that that's not who I am. And she's like,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: it still is who he is. As far as she
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: doesn't know, she's not talking about his sobriety, but just
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: Difficulty dealing with him is still there. And I just
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: think it's great that I think this is a great show.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: And I think it is great that this is her livelihood.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: She is showing it. And I think it will be
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: very helpful for young parents to see what it's like,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: her struggling with her, you know, being a single parent
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: with a child that needs special appointments and things like that.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: And then also dealing with an ex When your child
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: has all these extra appointments, so it's already hard enough
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: to deal with an ex when it's just, then you
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: throw in narcissism, ego, 20 years on a reality TV show,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: recovering alcoholic, TV fame, and a toddler. Like all of
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: it and dating other people is, you know, It's going
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: to be interesting to watch for sure.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: I agree. And I think that this adds like a
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: more compelling layer to the show. Whereas last season it
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: was all we're all couples and we're just working with
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: our babies and we exchanged bottle service for baby bottles.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: But like this adds like a real layer of like
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: what it's like raising a family in the valley and
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: having an ex that you have to deal with. And
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: especially in the valley. Like, I mean, coke heads are
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: a dime a dozen. And I love how Alex Baskin
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: in the interview that he's like, yeah, I just want
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: to be. And we had no idea. I was like,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: the viewers knew. You're telling me none of the producers
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: knew that Jack's had an issue with substance abuse?
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: Brittany said not until she called the producers, the PR
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: person and his sister and said, y'all better do something
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: about this. And so she said not until she believes
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: Jack felt his career, his job was in jeopardy. Did
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: he then go back? To the rehab because he went
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: the first time and left after 17 days. Yeah. Then
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: he went back this next time, which seems to have
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: been successful, according to him. And, you know, and when
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: I said I had Lala on and she attested to
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: Brittany fucking like tears in her eyes.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: Proud of her friend and what she's been through and said,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: I can attest that, you know, Jack's isn't there and blah, blah, blah.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: And I cut a little clip of that, put it out.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: And I got the text messages, like Kristen Doty goes,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: I know I'm going to get these text messages. And
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: I go, okay, I'm taking it down, Jax, because I
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: thought in my being 20 years older than these people
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: and have many friends who have gotten divorced and many
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: friends who've had to co-parent with assholes, I was like,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: oh shit, is this video going to spark him fighting
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: with her? And I don't want to ever cause... more
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: pain for her. But in turn, she DMed me or
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: texted me and was like, I'm so sorry that he's
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: not telling the truth and I'm fine and this isn't
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: true and dah, dah, dah. And so it's kind of
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: great that he went on the podcast so that she
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: could now, now she's like, now I'm free. Now I'm
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: free to say whatever because for all this time and
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: in the first season, he kept making it look like
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: she was a boozer.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: And she had the problem.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: That she was a boozer and him being like, you're sick.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: You're out here. Now she's like, I don't have stomach
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: issues anymore. I'm not sick because she was a bag
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: of nerves. Yeah. Because she had a home and a
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: business and their businesses being a couple. They have a
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: small child. She did love him. She is that traditional girl.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: So it really took her the moment, the strength to leave,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: which is also something that I hate it when someone's like,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: you knew who you were marrying. Why didn't you? I'm like,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: just shut up. Like, just watch it in support and
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: be grateful that she's sharing her journey to maybe help
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: you see something or try to fix it before it
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: gets to the point of that, you know?
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: It was good. No, I agree. And listen, one thing
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: about the Vanderpump people, I mean, I guess with now
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: exception for Ariana, which... piggybacking off the James Kennedy thing.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: I heard she unfollowed him because, you know, she does
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: everything for the audience. But so I.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: She unfollowed James?
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: Because she just wanted to be associated with the team.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: Right, and James was a big cheerleader for her.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But still, yeah. All of these cast members, I
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: think because they lived their 20s, or I guess they
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: were 30, but they lived their 30s so openly and
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: when they had nothing, that that's all they know how
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: to do is live their life in front of the
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: cameras in that way, that it just, like, watching the
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: Brittany and Jacksonville this season is going to be really interesting.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: And I don't think they hold anything back.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, I agree. And then what was funny
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: is someone sent me that someone in some of these sites,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: which I said, don't believe everything's on the internet. Put
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: me as a cast member in the Valley. Because her
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: thirst bucket, I guess, went to too many Vanderpump value shows.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: Were you not at Ocean's Party over the weekend?
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: No, I was not at Ocean's Party.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: Were you invited to Ocean's Party over the weekend?
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: No, I was not. I talked to Lala about it
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: because I go, oh, you know, I've been to Ocean's Party.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: And she goes, you know, this next one is just
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: going to be like, I go, don't even worry about it.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: I had a very busy weekend. I'm moving into this
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: new house. And it's been taking so long to figure
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: out TVs and stuff. And then what popped into my
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: mind was when I interviewed Caitlyn Jenner. And when Caitlyn
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: and Kris broke up before she came out as Caitlyn,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: she was very complimentary to Kris Jenner. And she said,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: when we decided that, I found this place. And within
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: 24 hours, Kris had her team come. Every TV worked,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: every remote worked. It was all furnished. There was food
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: in the fridge. And I'm like, God, I want Kris
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: Jenner as an ex-wife. I was like, could I have
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: a Kris Jenner just come move me in? I talked
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: about their scene from Bredy Broderick. There was a scene
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: in that movie where She moves in all in one
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: day and the husband comes home and she's like, we're
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: all moved in and there's a pot roast. I'm like, oh,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: my God, push that. But no, I did not. So, OK,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. What are you thinking about
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: this season?
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: It's fine. It's had moments. It's I don't know. I mean,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: it's the only house. I feel like they've all been
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: pretty bad lately, but this it's fine. We have a
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: lot of Sutton this season that I don't really need.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: We have a lot of Sutton. This is the lineup
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: for the reunion. So it's Kyle and Dorit, which I
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: think is good.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: And then Sutton and Bose. I guess Bose needs to
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: be next to Dorit. Then Garcelle and Erica. I love Erica.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: I think she's coming off great, but she doesn't have
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: much of her own drama, so that's fine. Jennifer Tilly
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: and Kathy.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: You're right, it's kind of boring. You know, even, so
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: do you think that Lisa, what about when Lisa Run
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: is like, people say it's like the fucking Titanic. I
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: was like, no, it's not. And then I was like, mm.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: I think Housewives overall is like the Titanic and Beverly
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: Hills is like the part of the Titanic that hasn't
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: gone under yet.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: They're holding on.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: They're holding on to the top. They haven't hit the
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: water yet. But it is like the Titanic. The ship
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: is sinking. I don't know, as much as I love Bravo,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know how much longevity they have. How long
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: is Andy Cohen going to be able to carry this
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: on his back?
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: Well, okay, speaking of which, here's a little rumor I
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: heard last week. And then you and I hear rumors.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: And we've done this a few times where I'm like...
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: Have you heard about this? And you're like, I don't know.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: Is it this? Yes, it is. Can we talk? So
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: I heard a rumor, not a lot of details to
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: this rumor, that come April, there is going to be
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: some announcement that Andy will be stepping down. I don't
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: know if that means immediately in April or like in
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: the next year, there'll be a transition. And we're just
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: letting you people know. I don't know if that means
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: he'll only do the reunion but not watch what happens
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: live or if it'll just mean I'm just doing the
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: radio show and I'm leaving all this behind and I'm
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: going to do a talk show in the morning. I
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: don't know. But I would say this. If it's because
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: he thinks there's greener grass doing a brand new show,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say Andy. Do not leave. And bravo, Peacock,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: don't let him go because nobody wants him replaced. Nobody
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: wants to see some young buck girl or guy replace
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: him on Watch Robbins Live. And I would say if
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: the idea is, oh, but his kids are growing older,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: he wants to spend more time with them. I disagree
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: as a working mom doing a weekly show and I
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: was not the host, so I did not have the
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: freedom you have. It is not a hard job. And
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: you could tape it earlier in the day. And you
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: could tape it four shows in two days or whatever
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: it is.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: Kind of like what he does now, no?
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: Yes. You could do all that. And then you could
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: change the times if you want. You could do it
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: at noon. It wouldn't fucking matter. And it doesn't matter
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: that it's called live. It doesn't have to be live.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: It never is live. And that's what I would say.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: And the only reason I would think that this is
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: going to happen is, A, he didn't think it through.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: So maybe he can change his mind. Or there's some...
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: thing that between him and the powers that be have
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: agreed to this because there is some disgruntled somebody that
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: has been shushed in return of him leaving which these
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: are just my thoughts based on a very light rumor
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: that i have heard yeah.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: And I heard the same. We had heard it when
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: we had talked.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: Last week.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, last week. And, I mean, my understanding was the
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: announcement is coming in April. But we don't know what.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: And all I got was he's stepping down. But I
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: didn't get follow-up details as to what stepping down.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: And it could be 100% rumor lie that someone started. Like,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: there's not a lot to it.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: I will say, it does. The person that I heard
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: it from, I don't believe would make this observation. but
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: maybe the information they got was.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: Wasn't totally true either.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: So, but I mean, maybe it's going to be like,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: this is the final season of watch what happens live.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: Cause like, or maybe, I mean, it could even be like,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: maybe they're going to move watch what happens live to
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: Peacock and like try to reinvent it. You know, the
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: same way Chelsea left E to go to Netflix. Like,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: do some sort of, I don't know.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: I also heard there's big announcements as far as in
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: April being some new shows and some goodbye. Like, you know,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: like I've heard there's a spinoff for Teresa.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: Like with her family.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: And I've, you know, is that true? Is, you know,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: there's a, they, people have said, Oh, I've noticed a
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: lot of different housewives have been coming to LA for meetings.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: So is there another version of ultimate girls trip, maybe
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: a whole new formula that they're trying to do? Or
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: is there going to be another episode of their love
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: Island with four single housewives? That's supposed to be coming out.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like more like one-off shows where they
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: utilize all of them.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: Smart to utilize their legacy talent as they try to
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: figure out what new shows they really want to build
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: up like the Valley. Um, I hope they don't do another.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: Remember when they did that talk show with Brandi Glanville
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: and like who was on it? Giselle Bryant was on it.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: It wasn't Brandi. It was Kate Chastain.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, Brandi wanted to be on it. It was Hannah
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: and Kate Chastain.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And it was a COVID thing and it was
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: just kind of a disaster, but it was cheap. But
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: also watch what happens live. in my opinion, is not
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: an expensive show. No. What makes an expensive show is
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: having a real live audience of like 180 people. They
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: don't have that, so that keeps the cost down. It's
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: not a ton of producers. Oftentimes, they don't have to
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: pay for someone to fly out. They've got a lot
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: of people in New York to fill it. They have
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: all these big stars that want to come on now
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: that didn't want to come on five years ago.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: Like....
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think the show, even if the show
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: dipped a little, they're not going to, why would get
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: rid of the show?
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: There's no reason to get rid of the show.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: Unless he really is burnt on it, which I would say,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: get unburnt.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: Get unburnt, Andy. Don't make a mistake of someone I
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: know that made a mistake and left a very easy
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: show thinking that it would be, that it would just
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: keep on coming. Like, you could also have guest hosts. Yeah.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: You could have guest hosts for a couple weeks while
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: you leave. That's fun. Just don't give up that anchor
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: because you could do this till you're 75.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: It's easy. I mean, look at Dick Clark did, you know,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: New Year's Rockin' Eve until he rocked it to the
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: grave that like Andy can totally do that.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, God, I mean, you've only had me on
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: your show twice in 15 years and I'm still trying
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: to save your ass. I don't know why I don't
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: get more respect in the Bravo world, but clearly I don't. Anyway,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: that's what I think. Are they gay or not? It's
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: a lifelong question. Kyle and Morgan. And will we ever
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: find out? I have given my opinion about 8,000 times,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: and it has occasionally changed. What is yours?
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: Have you heard anything? I've heard that they are together.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: I've never heard anything definitive.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, actually I have heard that they are.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I've heard that they are together.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: But I mean.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Like, I don't understand the point of
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: keeping it secret. Like, the only reason people are interested
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: is because we don't have an answer. And that's the
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: only reason they're still interested.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: For a storyline, hence why they're not getting divorced and
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: hence why nothing definitive has happened because it's not necessary.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: I could also see them playing it up for their daughters.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: Like they don't want their kids to know that they
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: fool around and aren't, you know.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: Good point.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: Loyal to each other. And that's why they have these
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: moments with the daughters and it feels real because it
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: probably is real and they have to keep up the
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: facade for the kids. Yeah. Like they don't want Portia
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: to be like, yeah, my mom's now a lesbian and
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: my dad bangs 19 year old TikTokers. You know, like,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: it's embarrassing to them. But I would understand why they
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: would keep that guy's up. Because even Kathy was kind of,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: in this week's episode of the show, she's like, we've
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: heard the rumors for a long time. Like, she was
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: really dragging Mauricio.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: Well, she fucking hates him.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: She hates him.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: Because when he was selling, you know, leisure suits or whatever,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: and Kyle left her Arabian Prince husband. Yeah. And was
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: single and met him at the Gate Nightclub. And they
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: were living in a two-bedroom apartment with little Farrah and
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: the new baby. And she's like, why don't you guys
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: get your real estate license? And he worked for Hilton
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: and Highland. And I'm sure they handed him listings just
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: like we see the tiny twins give to the little
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: Barbie girls. And then, you know, but then the opportunity
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: came because of Housewives. Yeah. And they said, do you
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: want to be the face of this agency? A lot
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: of people think that he owns the agency.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: He is the CEO and the face of it. Yeah.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: And maybe he has a stake in some of the franchises.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: But it's a franchise.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: Like McDonald's.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: You know? And so they can pop up offices. I could,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: you know, if I had my broker's license, I could
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: open an agency.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: Like, it's so... I think it still is a sore
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: spot for Kathy, but, and also her knowing that he
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: wasn't that great of a husband. And I think it's
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: pretty clear that Rick has been a very loyal husband.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: There's never been one fucking story about them. So it's like, Or.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: Did they just have enough money to pay him off?
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: Like she said, because she's like, Mauricio's not in a
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: position to pay anybody off.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: Like, how big are those settlements?
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: I think Kathy and Rick really are that couple that
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: just have their understanding and their life at the Cheesecake Factory. Yeah.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: And he thinks she is a hoot. Yeah. I remember
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: the first time I met him, he's like, my wife, Kathy,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: she does impressions. And, you know, you got to see
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: her like he like they're good. And now we don't
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: seem like because he's she probably knows I don't want
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: him being picked apart. He's an older man now and
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: he's been such like a delight.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: Like we don't need I don't need to I don't
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: need to expose him. It's not going to you want me.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: You can have me. You know, talk about potatoes and
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: screw up. Like, that fashion show thing was so fake.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: Like, you know, but it's funny, though, because she was like,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: I know she thought in her head, wouldn't it be
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: funny if I said, why don't you have Dorit, your
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: arc enemy, go try to emcee the thing? And it
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: was weird. I don't know that she meant to walk
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: out right before the show, but she obviously went to
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: go fluster and.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: Piss off Sutton.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: Which, you know, Sutton did something to her that week
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: that she decided she was going to get her feathers
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: all in a ruffle.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: Or she's just like, if I'm going to show up,
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be featured.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: So whatever it is, I'm going to say hunky dory.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say a weird thing. But if I'm
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: going to get my makeup person over here and I'm
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: going to film. It's going to be a worth it moment.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: And that's what's great about her.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, Dorit called it out and Erica called it out.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: They're just like, she's not dumb. Like she's smart and
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: she knows what she's doing. And I agree. I mean,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: I do think that when the fashion show started, like
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: she really was kind of caught off guard that I
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: don't think she was expecting the show to start as quickly.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: But her ruffling Sutton's feathers, walking up through the middle,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: like you could walk around the back. Like she strutted
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: right through that. Like she knew exactly what she was
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: doing there.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like she's like, why are you identifying as like
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: an elderly dementia patient when you're not? Like, I don't
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: get it, but whatever. You look good.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: People love it.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: This has been, what do we think they're really getting divorced,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: Dorit and PK? What do you think's happening?
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: I think he's over her.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think she wants anything to do with her anymore. 100%,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: it's done.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's why Kyle and him are
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: probably so close is they realize she has changed since
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: the show started and she's a completely different person. And
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: she's probably blowing things up with his drinking. Like that's
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: an example of what you don't do. Like with Britney's
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: doing where she kept Jax's stuff concealed until finally she
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: let him do it and then she blasted it all.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: That's one way to go. DeRee, I just, I don't know.
• 1:27:01
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