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187. Miss Piggy · Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood

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Speaker 1: Hello, delicious friends, and welcome to Who Did What Now?
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Speaker 1: The history podcast that is not your history class with me,
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Speaker 1: your host, Katie Charlewood, history Harlotte and reader of books.
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Speaker 1: I think and we have bitten off a little bit
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Speaker 1: more than I can chew this month or next month,
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Speaker 1: I should say. So, I decided that April being the
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Speaker 1: month that it is, that I was going to cover
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Speaker 1: the Titanic. You know, I don't know if you know this,
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Speaker 1: but i've I was on the BBC as a Titanic expert,
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Speaker 1: so that was quite fun. So I was like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I know lots of weird information about this, but like,
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Speaker 1: what do people want to know? I'll ask and you know,
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Speaker 1: I'll get a couple of questions and I'll answer them
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Speaker 1: in videos and it will help like pad out, you know,
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Speaker 1: the bits of the month that I don't have. I've structured. Now.
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Speaker 1: Now that's all fine and well until I was looking,
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Speaker 1: you know, I went onto Instagram and I was like, oh,
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Speaker 1: there's so many questions. That's fantastic. And then I go
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Speaker 1: in into Facebook and there's like nine hundred questions. Now
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Speaker 1: some of them are the same one like and I
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Speaker 1: shit you not kid? Jack and Rose fit on the door,
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Speaker 1: which is a question I am actually gonna answer because
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Speaker 1: it annoys me so much, so I'm gonna do it.
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Speaker 1: And I had to talk about physics, which is my
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Speaker 1: least favorite thing in the world. Well maybe not my
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Speaker 1: least favorite, but like it's not my top level of
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Speaker 1: subject that I like to chat about. Fucking physics. I
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Speaker 1: don't have a brain for physics, guys, And yet I
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Speaker 1: have to explain this. Just like the glass slipper, We're
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Speaker 1: not gonna get into it. We're gonna we're gonna breathe
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Speaker 1: in positive day A, we're gonna breathe out negativity. There
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Speaker 1: we go. It's all good. It's a good But yeah,
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Speaker 1: it was. That was a choice that I made, and
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Speaker 1: I had a really fun weekend. I went to see
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Speaker 1: my friend Paul, who it was telling me his wonderfully
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Speaker 1: terrible like speed dating like stories because he decided he
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Speaker 1: was going to like try his hand it's speed dating.
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Speaker 1: Spoiler alert. It did not go well. It did, however,
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Speaker 1: go quite funny. But yeah, that was. That was a
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Speaker 1: good time. So we did an escape room, and I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna complain about an escape room now, I'm not going
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Speaker 1: to tell you which one. It is. But effectively, the
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Speaker 1: very first clue is like, oh, the first thing to
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Speaker 1: change was time. And then even like I'm looking for
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Speaker 1: clocks or something like time related, right, and you know
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Speaker 1: the you know, the game master will sometimes give you
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Speaker 1: a hint if you're struggling, and they're like, yeah, no,
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Speaker 1: you need to look for a clock. There was no
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Speaker 1: clock in this room. There was no clock. There was, however,
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Speaker 1: a dial that went from zero to nine. But it's
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Speaker 1: a dial and not a clock. So I wasn't looking. Okay,
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Speaker 1: if you're asking me to look for a clock, I
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Speaker 1: expect it to be a clock. I don't care if
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Speaker 1: it's digital or analog or whatever. But a dial that
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Speaker 1: goes from zero to nine does not a clock, make
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Speaker 1: so anyway, basically that knocked us back because we were
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Speaker 1: looking for a damn clock. And I just I just like,
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Speaker 1: if you're going to make a puzzle room, your puzzles
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Speaker 1: actually have to make sense. I just feel like that's
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Speaker 1: a basic. But anyway, I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, Kerry,
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Speaker 1: quite a dibble, daba in fact me, In fact you
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Speaker 1: I will. But first we've got to get our source on.
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Speaker 1: Our sources are miss Peggy's Guide to Life by Miss
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Speaker 1: Peggy the deva Code by Miss the Muppet's Wiki. I know,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, don't never use wiki as a source. I know,
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Speaker 1: I know I say that to you. I also have
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of television interviews, A lot of TV
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Speaker 1: has been watched for this amount of research. By the way,
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Speaker 1: because I thought it was so important that we talk
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Speaker 1: about an icon, you know, to finish Woman's History Month.
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Speaker 1: I thought, who better than body positivity Champion, like absolute diva,
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Speaker 1: you know, somebody who came from humble beginnings to superstardom. Okay,
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Speaker 1: purveyor of wigs, Okay, the one, the only Miss Peggy
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Speaker 1: now aisles it in comfortably good. Then let's begin. When
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Speaker 1: one starts researching Miss Peggy, it becomes quite clear that
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Speaker 1: her life, quite a lot of it, is shrouded in secrecy.
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Speaker 1: And I just feel that she's quite a private person.
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Speaker 1: And in today's ageist society, I can understand why she
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Speaker 1: doesn't want to share certain parts of her life and
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Speaker 1: why she doesn't want to give these very specific time frames.
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Speaker 1: I understand like she is, you know, of an era,
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Speaker 1: and I think she deserves that respect. Now where I
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Speaker 1: do have dates I have them in and sometimes we're
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Speaker 1: just going to have to accept that we're never going
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Speaker 1: to have all the answers for some people in history.
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Speaker 1: But miss Peggy, miss Peggy was born miss Peggy Lee,
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Speaker 1: and Iowa, You're welcome, right. So she was named after
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Speaker 1: Peggy Lee, the famous singer. Now that in itself is
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Speaker 1: actually quite cute because Pegge's name isn't Peggy Lee. It's
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Speaker 1: Norma Dolores Eggstrom. And she became Peggy Lee. And if
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Speaker 1: you're thinking why do I know that name, well, she
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Speaker 1: was a famous singer. And you may know her as
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Speaker 1: the voice of Darling peg and the Siamese Cats from
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Speaker 1: Lady and the Tramp, like classic Disney movie, not the
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Speaker 1: remag No. But this story isn't about Peggy Lee. It's
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Speaker 1: about Peggy Lee. And I understand to some of you
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Speaker 1: those words will sound the same, like I'll say miss
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Speaker 1: Peggy and you'll think I'm saying miss Peggy. I have
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Speaker 1: an accent. Please, You're just going to have to suffer
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Speaker 1: through it. And I only just realized that at this
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Speaker 1: moment when I was doing this, and I'm like, oh no,
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Speaker 1: people are gonna think I'm saying Peggy when I'm saying, Peggy, Oh,
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Speaker 1: this is going to cause confusion, So Peggy, Miss Piggy
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Speaker 1: has long maintained an air of mystery, shall we say,
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Speaker 1: around her early life. She has on occasion, however, let's
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Speaker 1: slip a few details, like her name is actually Pigathias
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Speaker 1: or or like. More formally, her name is actually miss
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Speaker 1: Pigathia Lee. Right, It's it's a lot of syllables going
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Speaker 1: on there. Now, here's the thing. Like many aspects of
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Speaker 1: her identity, this exists somewhere between fact and a self
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Speaker 1: created mythology. What is more consistently documented is that she
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Speaker 1: was born in a small town above a butcher shop,
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Speaker 1: specifically Beckel's butcher Shop. Now, setting in itself is significant
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Speaker 1: because it placed her from from the beginning in this
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Speaker 1: precarious relationship with her own identity as a pig in
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Speaker 1: a human dominated world. Now, her childhood wasn't the most
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Speaker 1: stable of living conditions. Like according to accounts from her
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Speaker 1: longtime performer Frank Oz, Piggy's father was rather unfaithful and
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Speaker 1: largely absent. He was always chasing after other sows, while
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Speaker 1: her mother was overwhelmed raising many many piglets, thus giving
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Speaker 1: her very little emotional attention. And this is in Iowa,
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Speaker 1: so she ends up living in this farm in Iowa.
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Speaker 1: Her father is like chasing after all these sows, like,
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Speaker 1: her mother is so focused on dealing with all the
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Speaker 1: piglets that she has that she doesn't really give enough
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Speaker 1: attention to each of them. And I think this is
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Speaker 1: where Piggy's need for attention comes from, you know, because
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Speaker 1: she wasn't getting it anywhere else, and so she demanded it. Now. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 1: when she was still a little little pig, her father
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Speaker 1: would die and attractor accident, like, and she's still quite young, right,
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Speaker 1: I don't know the details of the incident with the tractor.
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Speaker 1: All I know is he did not survive. Now, whether
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Speaker 1: this was him, you know, taking control of the tractor,
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Speaker 1: or whether he was mowed down by it, I could
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Speaker 1: not find that specific information because death of pigs on
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Speaker 1: farms rarely makes it to the front pages of the newspapers,
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Speaker 1: even in Iowa. So she's still a piglet when her
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Speaker 1: dad dies, she's young, and her relationship with her mother
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Speaker 1: continues to be strained, and over the years, Piggy would
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Speaker 1: later describe her upbringing as something she was determined to escape.
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Speaker 1: She said that growing up her life was humble, and
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Speaker 1: she never liked being humble. She never wanted a humble experience.
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Speaker 1: She wanted big, amazing, you know, trumpets blaring. She wanted
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Speaker 1: it all. And from an early age she demonstrated ambition
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Speaker 1: and dissatisfaction with her circumstances. Like there was an often
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Speaker 1: repeated account which describes her declaring she would never live
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Speaker 1: the life she sought around her, and it is this
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Speaker 1: resolve which led her to leave home as a teenager.
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Speaker 1: Before entering show business, she pursued self improvement in structured ways.
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Speaker 1: She attended charm school, where she refined the manners employees
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Speaker 1: that would become central to her public persona. Now, over
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Speaker 1: the years, her accent would kind of evolve and change.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes it would verd on British like a high upper clip,
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Speaker 1: or it would veer into fringe. This sort of ambiguity
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Speaker 1: with her accent is it would kind of meld and flow.
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Speaker 1: I think was her way of becoming who she was
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Speaker 1: meant to be. So after this this charm school, she
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Speaker 1: worked in a department store selling gloves, and this is
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Speaker 1: one of these several early jobs that placed her in
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Speaker 1: proximity to fashion and presentation, both of which she would
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Speaker 1: later elevate into defining traits. Now, the fact that I
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Speaker 1: haven't seen Miss Piggy at the MET Gala is a tragedistate, no, tragedy, travesty.
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Speaker 1: You know what tragedty. I've decided it's a traged sty
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Speaker 1: It is both. It is bad, and Miss Piggy should
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Speaker 1: be walking the red carpet at the MET Gala, because
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Speaker 1: I think she would have the most amazing outfit. I'm
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Speaker 1: just saying. So her early years in the city, this
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Speaker 1: darling babe, this pig in the city, they were financially unstable. Now,
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Speaker 1: like many many performers in creatives starting out, she took
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Speaker 1: whatever work she could find. At one point she walked
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Speaker 1: with a sandwich board advertising a barbecue stand. Now that
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Speaker 1: that is an especially difficult job given the implications. She
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Speaker 1: also posed for ads, you know, including promotions for bacon products. Now,
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Speaker 1: how humiliating must that have been for her? You know,
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Speaker 1: It's like, I know, we talk about selling flesh, but
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Speaker 1: it's literally selling her flesh, you know, It's it's selling pigs.
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Speaker 1: She's a pig, and she's promoting the murder and consumption
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Speaker 1: of her own. People like that's not that's not great. Now,
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Speaker 1: this work she does it is completely out of necessity
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Speaker 1: and not by choice. I mean, why else would she
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Speaker 1: do it? Like she doesn't want to love this life.
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Speaker 1: And it's during this period that she briefly adopts the
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Speaker 1: stage name loverne Right. Because listen, things are not going
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Speaker 1: great for her. She needs a new start, and so
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Speaker 1: she enters beauty pageants as a means of survival. These contests,
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Speaker 1: they were a turning point in her life. She developed
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Speaker 1: her stage presence, learned how to command attention, and began
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Speaker 1: shaping the persona that would later define her career. Her
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Speaker 1: first major breakthrough came when she won the Miss Bogan
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Speaker 1: County beauty contest. This victory marked her transition from struggling
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Speaker 1: former to emerging personality. It was also at this point
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Speaker 1: that she first encountered her amphibian friend, Kermit the Frog,
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Speaker 1: a meeting that would become central to her personal and
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Speaker 1: her professional life. Following her pageants success, Miss Piggy secured
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Speaker 1: a role in a Bacon commercial, which led to further
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Speaker 1: television exposure. She spent a season as a mascot on
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Speaker 1: a local TV sports program called pig Skin parade. Okay.
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Speaker 1: These appearances established her as a recognizable on screen presence
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Speaker 1: and eventually opened the door to her involvement in The
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Speaker 1: Muppet Show. On The Muppet Show, like og nineteen seventies,
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Speaker 1: miss Piggy evolved rapidly, appearing in smaller roles like she
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Speaker 1: was in the chorus, she was in the background. Right.
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Speaker 1: She soon became one of the program's central figures. Right,
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Speaker 1: I mean, of course, how could you not look at
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Speaker 1: Miss Piggy and think that is a star? I mean,
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Speaker 1: like her persona combined exaggerated glamour, assertiveness, and emotional intensity. Right.
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Speaker 1: She was known for her dramatic entrances, her strong willed personality,
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Speaker 1: and a tendency towards some physical outbursts. I'm often portrayed
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Speaker 1: as martial arts expertise. Right, listen, listen, she's controlling her
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Speaker 1: anger through sport. You know, I mean, that's that's something
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Speaker 1: we should appreciate. You know that she channeled it into
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Speaker 1: the hut, you know what I mean. Can't help anybody
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Speaker 1: who's listened to this with headphones on. So there we go.
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Speaker 1: It's a little that still is bad, true, trying to
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Speaker 1: do this like behind a wall, so that you don't
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Speaker 1: get the harshness. I'm so sorry. I love you, really,
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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. So her relationship with Kerma It developed
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Speaker 1: during this period and became one of the defining dynamics
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Speaker 1: of the show. It was, however, characterized by inconsistency, moments
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Speaker 1: of affection interspersed with conflict, miscommunications and let's call them
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Speaker 1: differing expectations, and while Kermit often appeared cautious or reluctant,
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Speaker 1: Piggy expressed her feelings openly and intensely, and their relationship
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Speaker 1: became a recurring narrative like both on and off the screen,
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Speaker 1: like the thing is with Kerma is at no point
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Speaker 1: does he turn around and say I don't want to
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Speaker 1: be with you Piggy, Like I feel like she wouldn't
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Speaker 1: have and the rejection great to begin with, but I
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Speaker 1: feel like she'd got over it because she's Miss Piggy
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Speaker 1: and she deserves the world, okay, and I think she
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Speaker 1: needs someone who is going to be there for her.
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Speaker 1: But she was always very open about her feelings and
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Speaker 1: he wasn't. Now whether it's because he doesn't feel the
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Speaker 1: same way, but he still wants to keep her around.
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Speaker 1: It's like, do not keep Miss Piggy around for the
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Speaker 1: girlfriend experience. Bit, I mean, I love you Karrama. I
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Speaker 1: do I love you Kermat not just because I am
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Speaker 1: just so super big fan of miss Piggy Icon, but also,
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Speaker 1: you know, I like I like a small funny guy.
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Speaker 1: I like a small funny guy. They're cute and adorable
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Speaker 1: and they can hold their breath for a really long time.
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Speaker 1: So her romantic history, while centered on Kermit Krumy, this
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Speaker 1: has included numerous implied, insinuated or actual just like fully
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Speaker 1: stated relationships with other figures. Now, unsurprisingly, they're often presented
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Speaker 1: in an exaggerated or comedic way. Now, is she doing
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Speaker 1: this because she's trying to lure, you know, care me
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Speaker 1: back to her? Or is this her just living her
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Speaker 1: best life and getting people to enjoy Yep, no, I
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Speaker 1: think that maybe it Maybe she just wants to have
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Speaker 1: a good time. Now. These relationships contribute to ongoing narrative,
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Speaker 1: to her ongoing narrative as a character who seeks both
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Speaker 1: independence and companionship, although not always in conventional ways, and
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Speaker 1: we love that about her obviously. So when it comes
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Speaker 1: to their relationship from like seventy six to eighty one,
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Speaker 1: it's the Muppet Show era. So I'm gonna break this
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Speaker 1: down as a timeline because there's so much going on
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Speaker 1: in her life it's really hard to just like single
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Speaker 1: it up, you know. So their relationship during the Muppet
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Speaker 1: Show era is a central comedic storyline, and you have
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Speaker 1: Piggy aggressively pursuing the romance between them, and kelmat is
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Speaker 1: consistently hesitant and evasive. So Piggy, you know, she's she
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Speaker 1: really loves her care me Kurmy, and she's you know,
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Speaker 1: she's I don't want to say jealous, I mean she
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Speaker 1: is jealous. Actually know she's one hundred percent jealous because
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Speaker 1: she's like, do not take my frog please, that is
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Speaker 1: my amphibian, thank you very much. Now, So when it
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Speaker 1: comes to guest stars, female guest stars like like, she
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Speaker 1: didn't appreciate when they were flirting with her frog. Okay,
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Speaker 1: she wasn't for that, And this would often result in
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Speaker 1: her again managing the actor in a constructive way, and
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Speaker 1: these martial arts karate chop outbusts would happen when she
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Speaker 1: was rejected. And the problem with this is it kind
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Speaker 1: of it kind of leads to this ambiguity in the
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Speaker 1: relationship is on and off again, is it an actual thing?
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Speaker 1: Like what is going on when the Muppet Movie comes
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Speaker 1: out in seventy nine, Like it portrays them as like, oh,
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Speaker 1: they've just met. Oh it's new, and Piggy joins his journey,
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Speaker 1: and it has this very early sign of like attachment
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Speaker 1: and loyalty. And they're not a fully established couple. But
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Speaker 1: it is interesting that the creator of this whole thing
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Speaker 1: keeps putting them together as a couple. Why do you
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Speaker 1: keep making her your love interest? Carem if you're not interested?
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Speaker 1: Right and eighty one In The Great Muppet Caper, Piggy
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Speaker 1: is playing a glamorous fashion model and Kermit is a reporter,
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Speaker 1: and she openly pursues him romantically, as is her way,
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Speaker 1: and Kermit he shows more interest than before, but he's
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Speaker 1: still incredibly cautious. Now this is a very like flirtatious
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Speaker 1: relationship between the two of them, but it's definitely a
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Speaker 1: developing one. Now three years later, in The Muppet to
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Speaker 1: Take Manhattan, it is a major turning point, with Piggy
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Speaker 1: and Kermit portrayed as a committed couple. Now they have
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Speaker 1: an on screen wedding, which it's important to note that
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Speaker 1: this is often treated as like ambiguous canon in some
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Speaker 1: say like it was just a movie, but it is
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Speaker 1: the relationship at its most official, like depending on your interpretation. Now,
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Speaker 1: what's interesting here is again the producer of the show
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Speaker 1: created a storyline in which he marries Miss Piggy. You're
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Speaker 1: leading her on at this point, kermit, if you're not interested,
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Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, I feel like people
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Speaker 1: at like Miss Piggy is the toxic one in this relationship.
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Speaker 1: But if he's leading her on, I have I have opinions. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So between the eighties and the nineties, you know, they're
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Speaker 1: doing variety specials, they're doing shows, and this relationship continues
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Speaker 1: into TV specials, their appearances, all this stuff. You know,
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Speaker 1: they are shown as this long term couple. Of course,
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Speaker 1: there are arguments and reconciliations. They're on, they're off, they're
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Speaker 1: rossing and rachel and they're doing all this stuff. And
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Speaker 1: Piggy quite publicly refers to Kilmut as her partner, although
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Speaker 1: he is noncommittal about their marriage. I mean, I mean,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying that you're gaslighting as a frog.
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that maybe you should consider how you're
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Speaker 1: doing things now. In nineteen ninety six, one of the
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Speaker 1: best Muppet movies comes out. Okay, also before this actually,
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Speaker 1: so people like to say, the best Muppet movie that
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Speaker 1: ever existed is, of course I'm Up at Christmas Carol.
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Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying it's the best Muppet movie out there,
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Speaker 1: but it is, however, the best version of a Christmas Carol.
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Speaker 1: And this is coming from someone who fucking hates Charles Dickens, right,
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Speaker 1: fucking hates the man. Right, Gonzo managed to make him charming.
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Speaker 1: Don't ask me how. It's a gift, dear Gonzo. So
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Speaker 1: when it comes to mupet, Treasure Island again, it's an
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Speaker 1: alternative history and well it's an alternative retelling of the
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Speaker 1: Treasure Island book. And they become this couple again in it.
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Speaker 1: So Captain Smollett played by Kermit, and then Benjamina Gunn
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Speaker 1: played by Miss Piggy. Again, he's the producer, okay, he's
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Speaker 1: running the show here, and he keeps putting them in
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Speaker 1: these sort of relationship roles. So in this reflects the
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Speaker 1: same dynamic that they have together, but in these different
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Speaker 1: characters and reinforces their pairing as the default narrative for
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Speaker 1: both of them. Now, the thing about this is, like,
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Speaker 1: I know so much about mup at Juju Island. It's
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Speaker 1: my favorite, one of my favorite movies. But canonically, in
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Speaker 1: this movie, I need you all to pay attention here
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Speaker 1: because this is the important part. Canonically, in this movie,
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Speaker 1: the Frog has a tattoo on his chest of a
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Speaker 1: naked miss Piggy. I need you to understand that this
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Speaker 1: is a character that he chose to play, and you're
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Speaker 1: trying to tell me, he says, there's no relationship between
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Speaker 1: the two of them. What the actual fuck, Kermit. No, So,
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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine, we have muppets from space and they're
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Speaker 1: really is present in this It's not central to the movie,
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Speaker 1: but it is there, and they are still very much
25:05
Speaker 1: portrayed as emotionally connected. Now, they continue being in the media,
25:11
Speaker 1: having interviews, so on and so forth, and they are
25:14
Speaker 1: very much presented still as a long term couple in
25:17
Speaker 1: public life. They appear together all the time in interviews
25:21
Speaker 1: in press, and Peggy claims they are married quite consistently,
25:26
Speaker 1: and Kermit typically avoids confirming this, which is again, this
25:33
Speaker 1: is nineteen ninety nine, this is two thousands. Okay, we're
25:38
Speaker 1: way past this, right, Like eighty four. Apparently you got
25:43
Speaker 1: married in eighty four, and then you're just telling me that,
25:46
Speaker 1: what ten twenty years later, you're still going what. I
25:50
Speaker 1: can't confirm this, yes or no, Kermit. I'm sorry, I'm
25:53
Speaker 1: getting really mad about this. I'm getting really hungry, and
25:56
Speaker 1: you guys deserve better. So by the Muppets movie in
26:03
Speaker 1: twenty eleven, like they are broken up at the start
26:05
Speaker 1: of this movie, Like in Piggy she is she is
26:09
Speaker 1: living her best life, working at Vogue Paris. Like she's
26:13
Speaker 1: in Vogue Paris, she is working in fashion. She is
26:16
Speaker 1: having the best life, and Kermer is living separately. Now
26:22
Speaker 1: by the end of the movie, they do reconcile emotionally,
26:26
Speaker 1: and their relationship status is it's complicated, Like it's still undefined,
26:33
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's not official by any means,
26:36
Speaker 1: and Muppets most wanted. They are very much portrayed as
26:40
Speaker 1: being together again, and Piggy expects commitment, but Kermit, like
26:48
Speaker 1: real carameit, not like fake Kermet, like he struggles with
26:52
Speaker 1: these expectations, and they continue with their classic I'm gonna
26:57
Speaker 1: call it, by the way, devotion versus hesitation, which is
27:01
Speaker 1: very much a trope with relationships like either like shutter
27:03
Speaker 1: get off the pop man shout to get off the pot.
27:06
Speaker 1: You know when them up it's TV show happens in
27:10
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, there is like it's huge, not only right
27:16
Speaker 1: are they officially broken up? Like miss Peggy Pegathia Pygathia, Pygathia,
27:23
Speaker 1: Lee Pegathia Pygathia. I'm gonna need someone to like confirm
27:31
Speaker 1: how we're pronouncing her like big name. I feel like
27:34
Speaker 1: we deserve this. Now she announces that they are no
27:39
Speaker 1: longer together, like she is publicly talking about it, which
27:42
Speaker 1: is very much like drawing a line in the sand,
27:46
Speaker 1: is it not? And Kierman is dating someone else, like
27:53
Speaker 1: she's dating other people too, but he's dating Denise. Do
27:57
Speaker 1: you know who Denise is? She is a younger peg
28:03
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry you traded her in
28:07
Speaker 1: for a younger model. I swear to fuck no positive
28:13
Speaker 1: inside thoughts. So they are separated and emotionally connected. Now
28:25
Speaker 1: this is their this is their relationship for a while. Okay,
28:31
Speaker 1: now that the New Muppet Show is on, they're kind
28:34
Speaker 1: of back in that same spot again, the devotion and
28:37
Speaker 1: the hesitation. They're kind of back in that area and
28:41
Speaker 1: and things are hmm now, miss Piggy, I mean, let's
28:47
Speaker 1: face it, has been strung along by Kermit. So there
28:49
Speaker 1: is no surprise that she ends up, you know, having
28:53
Speaker 1: dalliances with other people, because how else is she going
28:56
Speaker 1: to live her life? She deserves love, Okay, So sometimes
29:01
Speaker 1: she just says, instead of just waiting around for him,
29:04
Speaker 1: she says, fuck this for Game of Soldiers, right like,
29:08
Speaker 1: because Kermit is not the only love affair that she has.
29:12
Speaker 1: One of which from like the O G Muppet Show
29:16
Speaker 1: era is link Hogthrob, right so he's her co star
29:20
Speaker 1: in Pigs and Space, and he's effectively this romantic foil
29:27
Speaker 1: to Kermit, and he's like more traditionally like heroic and
29:32
Speaker 1: glamorous and peggy. She shows in dressed, she's flirting and
29:38
Speaker 1: a lot of their like flirting and banter. It's you know,
29:42
Speaker 1: very situational. It's comedic, and there is occasional romantic tension,
29:47
Speaker 1: but it's more a flirtation than anything else. It's a
29:51
Speaker 1: casual flirtation as one does. Now. She does also find
29:56
Speaker 1: another one to catch her eye, which is Floyd Pepper
30:00
Speaker 1: if you know, you know, he is part of the
30:03
Speaker 1: Electric Mayhem band, and they're just like there's an implied
30:09
Speaker 1: attraction there, and there was never really like a philly
30:14
Speaker 1: sustained like relationship with them, Like it doesn't really go
30:17
Speaker 1: from their muppet wise, but this brief implied relationship. Like
30:25
Speaker 1: of course there's you know, Argus the Gargyle, like he
30:31
Speaker 1: he was very much into her for a while from
30:33
Speaker 1: Muppets Tonight, like that was a whole thing. Now, of course,
30:38
Speaker 1: there are many love affairs with guests on the O G.
30:41
Speaker 1: Muppet Show. I mean, you've got Peter Seller's, Rudolph Nourriyev,
30:44
Speaker 1: Dudley Moore. Then of course, like Muppet Tonight, you've got
30:48
Speaker 1: Pierce Brosnan. Oh my goodness, park Parkinson. So Michael Parkinson,
30:53
Speaker 1: he was this very big deal back in the day.
30:57
Speaker 1: He was chat show host. Okay, so the Muppets come on,
31:03
Speaker 1: So first he Kermet comes on, and like when he's
31:07
Speaker 1: chatting to Kermit, he like publicly like announces his adoration
31:13
Speaker 1: live on his own show for miss Piggy. And then
31:16
Speaker 1: when Piggy comes out, they're basically so into each other.
31:21
Speaker 1: The only thing they're not doing is like rubbing, you know,
31:24
Speaker 1: I feel at this point now of course I'm going
31:27
Speaker 1: toness John Ridder, was it John Ritterer and someone else?
31:30
Speaker 1: They were like fighting for her affections because of course
31:34
Speaker 1: you would, She's Miss Piggy. Josh Grobin was so written
31:38
Speaker 1: to her for a while, but then he kept messing
31:42
Speaker 1: up the show because of his ego, and so they
31:44
Speaker 1: had to like really make them break up by boosting
31:50
Speaker 1: and feeding Miss Piggy's ego to like out ego Josh Grobin,
31:55
Speaker 1: which is I mean a wild feat you know what
31:58
Speaker 1: I mean? Oh godness? Who else did she date? She
32:01
Speaker 1: was on several dates with Tay Diggs. They had a
32:04
Speaker 1: thing for a while. Now in the pilot of was
32:11
Speaker 1: It the Muppets? Like twenty fifteen show, Piggy had been
32:16
Speaker 1: dating like the co star of this movie she was doing.
32:21
Speaker 1: It was a civil war movie with to for Grace, right,
32:25
Speaker 1: so TMZ, you know the gossip rag they dubbed their
32:32
Speaker 1: celebrity name Taufiggy. It's so cute like so her and
32:36
Speaker 1: Toe for Grace they were just like dating for a while.
32:41
Speaker 1: Now after this, she's she's kind of into your of course,
32:49
Speaker 1: Nathan Fillian, so effctively she's filming a spot for you know,
32:53
Speaker 1: the twenty fifteen show, and she loses her concentration because
32:57
Speaker 1: she is distracted by Nathan Fillian's dairyer. Right, so she
33:06
Speaker 1: has this like like thing, and it's even on Facebook.
33:10
Speaker 1: They're like, I looks think Miss Piggy might have a
33:12
Speaker 1: love interest. And so in the very next TV spot,
33:18
Speaker 1: Kermit catches Nathan philly in doing the walk up shame
33:23
Speaker 1: from Miss Peggy's trailer, Right, that's oh my goodness the drama.
33:32
Speaker 1: So in twenty eighteen, Piggy is involved in this charity
33:36
Speaker 1: event called stand Up for Cancer or stand Up to Cancer,
33:39
Speaker 1: I'll stand up for Cancer. So basically it's a bunch
33:42
Speaker 1: of stand up comedians. They do a lot of comedy
33:44
Speaker 1: and they're doing it to raise money for cancer charities. Now,
33:47
Speaker 1: her and one of the hosts, Jack Whitehall, they they
33:53
Speaker 1: get into an occasion because they have to get they
33:56
Speaker 1: have to get in the same dressing room and they
33:58
Speaker 1: have to share it. And of course, of course one
34:00
Speaker 1: thinks they're a bigger star on the other, and they
34:02
Speaker 1: get into an arm wrestle and then of course their
34:04
Speaker 1: eyes locked, don't they, And then before you know it,
34:07
Speaker 1: they are so like they realize there's an attraction there,
34:11
Speaker 1: and of course he ends up asking her out for
34:14
Speaker 1: a drink. Now what happens after that, we don't know,
34:16
Speaker 1: Like she's never spoken about it publicly, and I just
34:20
Speaker 1: feel like maybe it wasn't as interesting her fun or
34:22
Speaker 1: good for her, you know what I mean. So, uh,
34:28
Speaker 1: miss Peggy, you know, accepts an invitation to go to
34:34
Speaker 1: the Game Awards with Jeff Kayley, and he thanks her
34:39
Speaker 1: for accepting his invitation, and she's like, of course, because
34:42
Speaker 1: she would never turn one down after what they did
34:46
Speaker 1: in Bora Bora. Right now, he gets uncomfortable. He's like,
34:52
Speaker 1: she's rubbing his chest and stuff, but that's mainly because
34:55
Speaker 1: his mother was there. So that's not great. Okay, now
35:00
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back. I got to talk about this.
35:02
Speaker 1: I got to talk about this because this is so
35:04
Speaker 1: important to me. Tim Curry, Okay, So he played long
35:09
Speaker 1: John Silver in the Muppet Treasure Island, again, one of
35:13
Speaker 1: the best Muppet movies ever to have been made in
35:15
Speaker 1: the history of movies, and so he often talked about,
35:20
Speaker 1: you know, he and Piggy would rehearse together and play
35:24
Speaker 1: lines off of one another, and this would grow into
35:28
Speaker 1: this tour affair and they had a relationship at least
35:33
Speaker 1: through the filming of the movie. Now, some people say
35:36
Speaker 1: that these sort of boiler pop relationships happen when people
35:41
Speaker 1: are in close proximity one another, and it's very intense,
35:44
Speaker 1: and that's why people who are in movies together end
35:46
Speaker 1: up dating. So her and Tim Curry, they were together
35:50
Speaker 1: for a while and then he made a very stupid joke,
35:54
Speaker 1: an offhand joke about bacon or pork or something, and
35:59
Speaker 1: of Piggy is not going to stand for that, okay,
36:02
Speaker 1: because of who she is, And to this day, Tim
36:06
Speaker 1: Curry says that Miss Piggy is the one that got away. Now,
36:15
Speaker 1: the thing about Piggy's life, her romantic history, and her
36:19
Speaker 1: relationship with Kermit, obviously it remained central, and it's far
36:23
Speaker 1: from exclusive or stable, and there were rumored romances and
36:28
Speaker 1: confirmed romances with co stars, guest celebrities, and even some
36:33
Speaker 1: individuals far outside the entertainment world. Some of these relationships
36:38
Speaker 1: were brief, some were intense, all were dramatic. And Piggy
36:44
Speaker 1: she approached love the same way she approached everything else, fully, fearlessly,
36:51
Speaker 1: and with a tendency towards grand gestures, lavish gifts, public declarations,
36:58
Speaker 1: sudden breakups and always all is always the expectation of devotion.
37:05
Speaker 1: Her relationship with Kermit, however, existent in a constant state
37:11
Speaker 1: of flux, together, not together, almost engaged, engaged, married, not married,
37:22
Speaker 1: you know, definitely arguing, and through it all there was
37:28
Speaker 1: something undeniably real beneath the theatrics. They challenged each other,
37:34
Speaker 1: frustrated each other, grounded and unbalanced each other. Their story
37:40
Speaker 1: became a narrative in its own right, unfolding in front
37:42
Speaker 1: of audiences who just couldn't look away, even most recently,
37:47
Speaker 1: when you know he was sharing a boat with Sabrina Carpenter,
37:53
Speaker 1: like Miss Piggy didn't appreciate that. Although space Sabrina Carpenter
37:59
Speaker 1: wouldn't not try and steal Miss Piggy's man because she
38:03
Speaker 1: loves Miss Piggy too much. She respects Miss Piggy too much,
38:08
Speaker 1: like she would never try and hurt her relationship this way.
38:19
Speaker 1: As her fame grew, Miss Piggy cultivated high fashion and
38:24
Speaker 1: celebrity culture again. She claims to have studied at the
38:29
Speaker 1: Paris School of Fashion, thus reinforcing her association with couture
38:33
Speaker 1: and design, although she has never publicly verified details such
38:37
Speaker 1: as dates, of attendance or her age. She has consistently
38:43
Speaker 1: refused to disclose her birth date, as is her right.
38:48
Speaker 1: I'm sorry again, ageist world, we do not ask a
38:51
Speaker 1: woman her age be fucking respectful to Miss Piggy, so
38:57
Speaker 1: she does. I can only describe as all these amazing
39:01
Speaker 1: things right. She ends up because during the height of
39:06
Speaker 1: her career in the late twentieth century, she expanded beyond
39:10
Speaker 1: television into a broader brand. She authored books, appeared in films,
39:15
Speaker 1: and became a regular presence in interviews and media appearances.
39:20
Speaker 1: Her autobiography and related to publications present a version of
39:24
Speaker 1: her life that blends verifiable events with deliberate embellishment, reinforcing
39:30
Speaker 1: her carefully constructed identity. You know who else did that?
39:34
Speaker 1: Lola monte Is, and we love her for it, although
39:38
Speaker 1: I mean, Miss Piggy's probably the person to be like.
39:41
Speaker 1: I went to spend for two weeks and now I
39:42
Speaker 1: can speak Spanish Hola. So in nineteen eighty one, she
39:49
Speaker 1: publishes her autobiography, Miss Peggy's Guide to Life, which is
39:54
Speaker 1: her first and most famous book. It's kind of like
39:58
Speaker 1: a comedic self help and lifestyle guide, and it covers
40:01
Speaker 1: things like beauty, romance, fame, self confidence Now. It is
40:08
Speaker 1: like there's no ghostwriter on this. You can tell because
40:10
Speaker 1: it is completely written in her own voice. It's bold,
40:13
Speaker 1: it's self centered, it's funny, and it also includes anecdotes
40:19
Speaker 1: and information about her rise to stardom and her relationship
40:24
Speaker 1: with Kelmet So in the twenty first century, just so
40:28
Speaker 1: you know, she releases The Diva Code. That's two thousand
40:32
Speaker 1: and six, and this is like a follow up guidebook
40:36
Speaker 1: for modern audiences because she grows right, she rolls with
40:40
Speaker 1: the times, and this focuses on empowerment, personal branding, and
40:46
Speaker 1: in her confidence piggy style. It's structured around codes or
40:52
Speaker 1: rules for living like a diva. Now. It is really
40:56
Speaker 1: really self aware, which is hilarious. It's wonderful that she
41:01
Speaker 1: has this level of understanding about herself. So I'm gonna
41:07
Speaker 1: go back in time again now. So in nineteen ninety eight,
41:10
Speaker 1: she launches her own perfume More, a product that encapsulated
41:16
Speaker 1: her personal brand. It's luxurious, it's self referential, and centered
41:22
Speaker 1: on the idea of self admiration. The launch was accompanied
41:28
Speaker 1: by promotional appearances that treated the fragrance as an extension
41:32
Speaker 1: of her persona rather than a typical commercial product. Now,
41:37
Speaker 1: this is a wonderful thing, like the concept of self admiration,
41:42
Speaker 1: you know, because in Ireland there's a thing called there's
41:46
Speaker 1: no praise like self praise. And they don't like, you
41:49
Speaker 1: shouldn't be confident, you shouldn't be proud of yourself, you
41:51
Speaker 1: shouldn't be great, right, and Miss Piggy exudes all those things,
41:55
Speaker 1: and I think like there are certain aspects of her
41:57
Speaker 1: personality that we could all be better by being a
42:01
Speaker 1: little bit more like piggyfied, you know. But throughout her career,
42:09
Speaker 1: Miss Piggy has maintained a dual identity, both a performer
42:13
Speaker 1: with an ensemble and an end of a Joe celebrity figure.
42:18
Speaker 1: Her work with the Muppets continued through various television revivals, films,
42:22
Speaker 1: and specials produced under organizations such as the Walt Disney Company,
42:27
Speaker 1: which later became the primary distributor of Muppet productions. Okay,
42:33
Speaker 1: Her personality has remained consistent in its key traits. She's assertive,
42:39
Speaker 1: she has a strong sense of self worth, and a
42:42
Speaker 1: focus on image and presentation. At the same time, her
42:47
Speaker 1: portrayal has evolved to include greater self awareness, often acknowledging
42:53
Speaker 1: the constructed nature of her public identity. Again, she's so
42:57
Speaker 1: self aware. Miss Piggy considers herself a dramatic actress and
43:03
Speaker 1: a great singer. Okay, but she does have other talents too,
43:07
Speaker 1: apart from of course, karate chopping, so like in there
43:14
Speaker 1: was one episode of The Muppet Show I think it
43:15
Speaker 1: was Kay Ballard's one, it was proven that Miss Piggy
43:18
Speaker 1: can play like instruments, including the trumpet and the kazoo,
43:26
Speaker 1: and she proved to be great at bending metal bars.
43:31
Speaker 1: Like in the Great Muppet Caper she bent back the
43:35
Speaker 1: jail bars and then the Muppets take Manhattan she was
43:38
Speaker 1: able to bend a metal bar too, so like Also
43:44
Speaker 1: in addition, furthermore, also shown in the Great Muppet Caper,
43:50
Speaker 1: Miss Piggy had the ability to model. Of course, she
43:54
Speaker 1: could tap dance, she could swim, she could drive a truck.
43:58
Speaker 1: You know you need a special license for that, by
43:59
Speaker 1: the right. She could drive a truck and ride a motorcycle.
44:05
Speaker 1: And my favorite thing ever about her is the fact
44:08
Speaker 1: that Rolf. Of course, Rolf, who is just the closest
44:15
Speaker 1: personality wise to the wonderful creator Jim Henson. I'm sure
44:20
Speaker 1: you've heard of from now. Rolf is very much part
44:25
Speaker 1: of that, and he said that Miss Piggy. No one
44:32
Speaker 1: can make an entrance quite like Miss Piggy. By the
44:38
Speaker 1: height of her career, Miss Piggy was no longer just
44:41
Speaker 1: a performer. She was a brand, fashion lines, interviews, magazine covers,
44:49
Speaker 1: appearances that blurred the line between character and celebrity. She
44:54
Speaker 1: cultivated an identity that was both self aware and unapologetically extravagant.
45:00
Speaker 1: She speaks about or she spoke about. No, she does
45:04
Speaker 1: speak about self worth, okay, but always, of course in
45:08
Speaker 1: her very very own, specific tone, very unique. Piggy's unique
45:15
Speaker 1: way to share self worth is is something to be admired,
45:20
Speaker 1: and confidence in Piggy's world was not something to be earned.
45:24
Speaker 1: It was something to be declared. And while critics sometimes
45:28
Speaker 1: dismissed her as excessive, others recognize something deeper. She had
45:34
Speaker 1: taken a world that often sidelines bold personalities, especially those
45:39
Speaker 1: who don't fit into traditional molds, especially those who don't
45:43
Speaker 1: physically fit into those molds, and she forced it to
45:46
Speaker 1: make space for her. Miss Piggy's legacy, I'm getting emotional now.
45:53
Speaker 1: Miss Piggy's legacy lies in her distinctiveness. She's neither a
45:58
Speaker 1: traditional comedic character ignor she is straightforward parody. Instead, she
46:02
Speaker 1: represents a blend of satire and sincerity, of figure who
46:07
Speaker 1: simultaneously embodies and critique celebrity culture, pauty, standards, and ambition.
46:15
Speaker 1: We could always, we should always try and be a
46:17
Speaker 1: little bit more like Miss Piggy, Like let's get piggied,
46:21
Speaker 1: you know, God, I hope that's not a horrible sex
46:25
Speaker 1: term that I'm too old to understand. From her origins
46:32
Speaker 1: above a butcher shop to international recognition, her trajectory reflects
46:38
Speaker 1: a consistent pattern using performance, reinvention, and determination to move
46:44
Speaker 1: beyond her circumstances. While many details of her life remain
46:48
Speaker 1: selectively disclosed or stylized, the broader outline is clear. She
46:52
Speaker 1: built her identity deliberately, and she has maintained control over
46:56
Speaker 1: its presentation throughout her career. That balance between fact and
47:02
Speaker 1: performance remains central to understanding Miss Piggy, not just as
47:05
Speaker 1: a character, but as a constructed public figure whose story
47:09
Speaker 1: continues to evolve. If there's one thing to take from
47:13
Speaker 1: Miss Piggy's life, it is this she never wanted to
47:18
Speaker 1: be chosen, not as a child not as a struggling performer,
47:23
Speaker 1: not even at the height of her fame. She decided
47:26
Speaker 1: who she was, and she then she insisted the world
47:30
Speaker 1: degree was she difficult apps a fucking lute way, complicated,
47:35
Speaker 1: without question, but also unforgettable And in the end that
47:42
Speaker 1: may be the only thing she ever truly cared about.
47:48
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to say. And so it ends
47:50
Speaker 1: the story of Miss Piggy because it's still going and
47:54
Speaker 1: will it continue forever? Will it continue for a little while.
47:57
Speaker 1: We don't have the answer, and I certainly don't have
47:59
Speaker 1: the ac So just now, I don't know. Some of
48:03
Speaker 1: you might be thinking, what a strange way to end
48:06
Speaker 1: Women's History Month, And I promised you something light and fluffy,
48:12
Speaker 1: and I actually don't think Miss Piggy's life was that.
48:17
Speaker 1: Like we can find the comedy in the tragedy. We can,
48:24
Speaker 1: and it's that gallows humor which allows a lot of
48:29
Speaker 1: us to continue and live. And this is where whimsy
48:38
Speaker 1: comes in. I'm going to talk about whimsy for a second,
48:40
Speaker 1: because I've seen a lot of discussions as of late
48:44
Speaker 1: about whimsy and how you know, oh, there's no more
48:47
Speaker 1: whimsy in the world, and there are like I'm not
48:51
Speaker 1: saying it's a generational divide, because I've seen like gen
48:54
Speaker 1: Z finding gen Z and like millennials versus gen Z,
48:57
Speaker 1: and it's like how the younger generation lead whimsy away,
49:02
Speaker 1: and the reason they don't see whimsy is that it's manufactured,
49:06
Speaker 1: and that's why they don't feel it. You know. I
49:10
Speaker 1: think I mentioned this before in a previous episode. But
49:14
Speaker 1: I was in just like a shop, a store, and
49:17
Speaker 1: I was looking at pajamas because I keep buying myself pajamas.
49:22
Speaker 1: I have an issue, clearly, and I was standing there
49:25
Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't know. I think I
49:28
Speaker 1: was still in like my ridiculously wrong raincoat. I was
49:32
Speaker 1: in something silly because it was wet, but my hair
49:36
Speaker 1: was up and curled and doing its thing and pink,
49:41
Speaker 1: I think it was pink at the time. And I
49:43
Speaker 1: was lifting something and someone walked past me and chatting
49:48
Speaker 1: to their friend and said, oh, she looks like one
49:50
Speaker 1: of those girls who's like romanticize your life. And first
49:53
Speaker 1: of all, yes, fuck you. I love whimsy. I love
49:57
Speaker 1: quirk like I love sort of vintage food art. In
50:05
Speaker 1: my kitchen, for example, I have a watercolor painting of
50:09
Speaker 1: an egg. It's just a regular egg. It's a chicken egg,
50:12
Speaker 1: just a regular brown egg. Now there was an option
50:16
Speaker 1: to buy a blue egg, but I was like, why
50:17
Speaker 1: would I buy a duck egg? Like, no, don't. I
50:20
Speaker 1: don't vibe with that. Give me the chicken egg. I
50:22
Speaker 1: don't like duck eggs. But like I have, like I
50:26
Speaker 1: have art on my wall which is like espresso yourself,
50:30
Speaker 1: and it's a little espresso cup but it looks like
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Speaker 1: sort of like yeah, that's sort of vintage, a like
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Speaker 1: diner art. And I've got fancy a kappa, which is
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Speaker 1: a cup of tea doing the same thing. And I
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Speaker 1: love those sort of bendy and the ink machine like
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Speaker 1: beddy boop, like all those original kind of styles. I
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Speaker 1: love that, but I love that like kitchen related for
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Speaker 1: my kitchen, I actually have like a foil I have
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Speaker 1: a foile print of what is the charge eating a meal?
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Speaker 1: A succulent Chinese meal, because I love food related things
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Speaker 1: in a kitchen. I think it's really fun. And I
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Speaker 1: do believe in whimsay and I do believe in just
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Speaker 1: living my life. Like when I go on my next holiday,
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Speaker 1: like I'm going to like a singing dancing basketball game,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to like a murder who wrote thing. I'm
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Speaker 1: hoping to go to the library tarpets. If anyone in
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Speaker 1: LA wants to go with me to the labrary at Tarpets,
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Speaker 1: let's do it, babe. Yeah. Like, there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: stuff that I'm just gonna go do because I need
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Speaker 1: to just have a moment where I love life for
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Speaker 1: the sake of loving it. But I also have to
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Speaker 1: remember to film things. I'm really bad at not filming
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Speaker 1: things when I travel, or I'll film it and then
51:56
Speaker 1: never edit it and put it together. So you might
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Speaker 1: see like last year travel vlog show up on like
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Speaker 1: YouTube or something, and we'll see how that goes. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: I went off on a big grant about the lack
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Speaker 1: of whimsy in the world, and I think Miss Piggy
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Speaker 1: has whimsy and I think she uses it is part
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Speaker 1: of her persona, because why the fuck not, Okay, if
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Speaker 1: you've lived through all this shit and then you're still
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Speaker 1: working and coming out and doing your best, like hell yes,
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Speaker 1: and to deal with her confidence. I love it so much.
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Speaker 1: Like Miss Piggy is an idol. I don't care what
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Speaker 1: anyone says. She's an edel and I love her and
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Speaker 1: with that I have to do recommendation time. Obviously, I'm
52:44
Speaker 1: gonna recommend Miss Piggy's book because, of course, although you
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Speaker 1: know what I think. Yeah, the Diva Code. You should
52:54
Speaker 1: all read The Diva Code by Miss Piggy that you're
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Speaker 1: reading assignment for watching a Treasure Island obviously because it's amazing.
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Speaker 1: And for listening, oh oh, what will you listen to?
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Speaker 1: You know what you should listen to is sweet transvestite
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Speaker 1: from a Muppet a muppet? No from a Rocky Horror
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Speaker 1: picture show? Have the Muppets ever done Rocky Horror? Have they?
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Speaker 1: They should if they haven't, because I feel like they'd
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Speaker 1: have a great time. But anyway, with that, I shall
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Speaker 1: bid you adieu, adios au revoir whit is then my
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Speaker 1: friends by