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One week into the season: Are there concerns over the Cardinals bullpen? · Cardinal Territory: A St. Louis Cardinals Podcast

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  Speaker 1: The Saint Louis Cardinals dropped to their series opener to
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: the Boston Red Sox by a score of thirteen to
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  Speaker 1: nine on Friday afternoon, a beautiful day at Fenway Park
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  Speaker 1: for Boston's home opener. I will add but have no
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  Speaker 1: fear Cardinals fans. Two games remain in the series. The
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  Speaker 1: bad news is that's very much weather permitting, and the
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  Speaker 1: forecast for this weekend does not look great, so we'll
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  Speaker 1: keep you posted. Yesterday's game was not necessarily well pitched
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  Speaker 1: really by either team, now that I'm thinking about it,
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  Speaker 1: but Saint Louis in particular allowed thirteen runs on sixteen hits,
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  Speaker 1: walked eight batters. Not what you want. On the flip side,
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  Speaker 1: I do remain encouraged by the offense, which has recorded
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  Speaker 1: at least ten hits in all seven of their games,
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  Speaker 1: and they've banged out fifty one total runs. So yesterday
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  Speaker 1: not good for the arms, continues to be encouraging for
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  Speaker 1: the bats. Welcome back to Cardinal Territory. I'm Katie, will
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  Speaker 1: hitting you with a quick one today. A couple of
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  Speaker 1: news updates and a couple of things to address. Let's
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  Speaker 1: get right into it, starting with our scouting report presented
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  Speaker 1: by Fanduels Sports Network. Prior to a Friday's game against
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  Speaker 1: the Red Sox, the Cardinals placed infielder Nolan Gorman on
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  Speaker 1: the ten day injured list with the right hamstring strain
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  Speaker 1: retroactive two April. Second Thomas a jac was recalled from
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  Speaker 1: Memphis as the corresponding move. So bad news first, obviously
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  Speaker 1: that Nolan Gorman is hurt. The good news in this
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  Speaker 1: situation is that both he and the Cardinals think this
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  Speaker 1: is a very minor stint. We talked to Nolan Gorman yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: He sustained this ham string strain on Tuesday night and
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  Speaker 1: extra innings in that loss to the Angels, running from
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  Speaker 1: first to second. You can kind of see him on
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  Speaker 1: the replay grab at his hamstring immediately when he takes
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  Speaker 1: off for second base. He was down unavailable on Wednesday
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  Speaker 1: at Cardinals wanted to give him a day to see
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  Speaker 1: if it would recover. Then you have the team off
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  Speaker 1: day on Thursday. So really it was about forty eight
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  Speaker 1: hours of recovery time. Got better, but still not enough
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  Speaker 1: where he could play. Cardinals did not want to be
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  Speaker 1: down four five days without a player. That's just too
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  Speaker 1: long of a time to be without a guy, especially
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  Speaker 1: an infielder. Cardinals, I don't know if you guys know
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  Speaker 1: this don't really have a lot of those on their roster.
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  Speaker 1: They certainly don't have a backup shortstop. We haven't talked
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  Speaker 1: about that at all. So they place Nolan Gorman on
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  Speaker 1: the injured list. He is eligible to come back that
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  Speaker 1: first series of the next home stand against the Philadelphia Phillies.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like he'll be out super long, so dodge
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  Speaker 1: de bullet there. Obviously, you don't like to see this
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  Speaker 1: for Gorman, who has kind of had a weird start
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  Speaker 1: to the year. Right. He came in over the offseason
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  Speaker 1: as someone that president at Baseball Operations John Mozaylock was
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  Speaker 1: stressing like playing time, playing time, playing time, and he's
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  Speaker 1: been pretty much relegated to a bench role to start
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  Speaker 1: the year. Very small sample size. He has looked good though.
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  Speaker 1: He's had nine played appearances, four hits, a homer, and
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  Speaker 1: a walk. The swing looks good, the approach looks good.
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  Speaker 1: So hopefully this is indeed a minor stint for Nolan
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  Speaker 1: Gorman and we see him back in action soon. In
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  Speaker 1: the meantime, Thomas a. Jac will kind of be that
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  Speaker 1: bench death, he might get a start. He can play shortstop.
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  Speaker 1: The Cardinals want to give Mason win a day off
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  Speaker 1: the heat, you know, so JC is the natural fit
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  Speaker 1: at shortstop there for their roster plays. So we'll see
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  Speaker 1: s JC. But this is not necessarily looking like it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a long term thing. So all things aside,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's not the worst news in the world.
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  Speaker 1: But that's not why you're here. You're here most likely
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  Speaker 1: because you want to talk about the bullpen, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: here to tell you that I think we should take
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  Speaker 1: one big, collective deep breath, and I'm prepared for the
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  Speaker 1: blowback already, but hear me out. Prior to Friday's game,
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  Speaker 1: Cardinals relievers had a collective two six six ERA and
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  Speaker 1: they were one of three teams in all of baseball
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  Speaker 1: whose bullpen had not given up a home run. The
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  Speaker 1: New York Mets and the Boston Red Sox were on
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  Speaker 1: that list. I do not know if the Mets give
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  Speaker 1: up the home run yesterday, so fact check me for
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  Speaker 1: that one. It's it been great over the last three
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  Speaker 1: four games. No, but let's do our normal preface with
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  Speaker 1: the bullpen. We over analyst every single relief performance because
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  Speaker 1: they're coming in in the most pivotal spots of the game.
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  Speaker 1: If the game is blown in the seventh or eighth,
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  Speaker 1: who are we looking at. We're looking at the believers
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  Speaker 1: right now. If the game is one of the seventh,
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  Speaker 1: of the eighth or the eighth, we're not really talking
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  Speaker 1: about the believers. We're like, yeah, that's their job. But
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  Speaker 1: the second they don't come through, all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, Memphis time. I don't think we're there yet.
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  Speaker 1: I think there are some players to monitor. I think
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  Speaker 1: there are some things to be slightly concerned about, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't think we are in full panic mode over
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  Speaker 1: the bullpen just yet. Let's start with Ryan Fernandez, who,
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  Speaker 1: as we know, a Rule five pick last year, was
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  Speaker 1: nails for them, really developed into a place where Allie
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  Speaker 1: Marvel felt comfortable using him in a high leverage role
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the season, and we're going to
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  Speaker 1: continue to see Riyan Fernandez in higher leverage roles. Now,
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  Speaker 1: it hasn't looked good, and we're going to pull up
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  Speaker 1: the stats and take a deep breath. He's pitched almost
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  Speaker 1: four innings, he's allowed an earned run in each of them,
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  Speaker 1: except for the home opener on March twenty ninth. The
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  Speaker 1: last two out of the April outings in particular not great.
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  Speaker 1: Two earned runs three runs total on April first, three
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  Speaker 1: earned runs on two hits on April fourth, and it
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  Speaker 1: just hasn't been affective for Ryan Fernandez. And again we'll
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  Speaker 1: preface this with a small sample size, but at this point,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say, hey, what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: So we asked him. Proof that we do ask questions.
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  Speaker 1: And credit to Ryan Fernandez, who got roughed up the
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  Speaker 1: last couple of appearances and was really agreeable to this
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  Speaker 1: conversation after the game on Friday, where he said, I'm
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  Speaker 1: working on some things. I don't know where this happened
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  Speaker 1: over spring, but I kind of lost the shape of
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  Speaker 1: my slider, the feel of my cutter, and I'm encouraged.
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  Speaker 1: I definitely felt like my last two pitches on Friday's
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  Speaker 1: outing something felt better. Something clicked, And anytime you hear
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  Speaker 1: a player say something clicked, you can kind of take
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  Speaker 1: that mental sigh, that sigh of relief. He said, I've
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  Speaker 1: been working at it extensively. It came out and sprang,
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  Speaker 1: everything was fine, and then I kind of lost it
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  Speaker 1: halfway through, he said, him and pitching coach Dusty Blake
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  Speaker 1: have been looking at all the numbers and they feel
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  Speaker 1: like they figure some things out. Mechanic wise, he felt
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  Speaker 1: like he was pulling off the ball. His head was pulling.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to like demonstrate that because it would
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  Speaker 1: look really weird, but I think the optics. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if you understand baseball already, sports, really, if you're pulling
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  Speaker 1: your head off, you're probably gonna lose some control and
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  Speaker 1: command there. Baseball Savant, for those of you familiar with
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  Speaker 1: that page, does a really nice job of breaking down
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  Speaker 1: pitch profiles from year to year. Shout out Jeff Jones,
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  Speaker 1: who was looking at this yesterday. If you go to
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Fernanda's Baseball Savant page, you can see his slider,
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  Speaker 1: in particular, the movement, the vertical break, the horizontal brake,
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  Speaker 1: how that compares to last year. We're looking specifically at
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  Speaker 1: the slider because that's the pitch that seems to be
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  Speaker 1: giving Fernandez the most trouble early on, and it is
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  Speaker 1: a noticeably different number. So I would go on Baseball Savant,
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at it right now and just kind of
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  Speaker 1: compare and see, so what I reference these numbers, it's
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  Speaker 1: easier to understand where I'm coming from. He wants his
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  Speaker 1: break to be at as close as zero as possible,
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  Speaker 1: he says, if he doesn't, it gets too loopy. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, if you have slider, you definitely don't want
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  Speaker 1: it to be loopy. And last year he did a
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  Speaker 1: nice job with his slider and just being effective with it,
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  Speaker 1: and this year again hasn't really been that effective for him.
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  Speaker 1: But talking to him and Ollie Marmel after the game,
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  Speaker 1: as they continue to work through things in real time,
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  Speaker 1: slowly encouraging. I don't think we've pressed the panic button
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  Speaker 1: on Fernandez yet. I think we give him a couple
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  Speaker 1: more a couple more appearances. If you continue to struggle
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  Speaker 1: with the slider, we're having a different conversation. But the
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  Speaker 1: good news is that they're at least aware of the problem.
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  Speaker 1: They have a game plan to fix it, so we'll
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  Speaker 1: see how that goes. What I'm not really worried about
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  Speaker 1: seriously is the eighth and ninth Inny and tandem of
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  Speaker 1: Film Maeton and Ryan Helsley. I think the film Aton
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  Speaker 1: signing is going and is going to end up being
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  Speaker 1: one of the sneaky good sidings of the year, and hey,
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: if you're only going to make one free agent signing
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  Speaker 1: Jo Moselak, it better be a good one. And I
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  Speaker 1: think film Aton is exactly what this bullpen needs. And
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  Speaker 1: we talked about it when he was signed, kind of
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  Speaker 1: that veteran presence. He's also so effective and so durable.
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  Speaker 1: Now you're going to see a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: hesitance from the Cardinals in terms of that durability standpoint
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  Speaker 1: in the first few weeks of the season, because Phil
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  Speaker 1: Mayton was signed so late in the spring, because he
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  Speaker 1: didn't have a full spring to ramp up. He said,
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  Speaker 1: he's fine, but the Cardinals are going to be, you know,
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  Speaker 1: practice patients or caution with him, just to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that they don't overdo it early. But I really like
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  Speaker 1: what we're seeing out of film Mayton. He's effective and
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  Speaker 1: when he comes in the game, you kind of just
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  Speaker 1: already know it's that bridge to Ryan Helsley, very similar
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  Speaker 1: with what we saw from Andrew Kittridge, and Helsley's looks great.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, the Cardinals have been winning or you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's only only had one safe situation, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't really think anone's worried about Ryan Helsley either,
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  Speaker 1: Jojo Romero fine. I thought we saw a better outing
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  Speaker 1: from him against the Angels. Chris Roycroft's going to continue
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  Speaker 1: to develop in these spots. I think Kyle Lahy is
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  Speaker 1: going to be fine as well. That's someone that the
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  Speaker 1: pitching staff is very or the Cardinals coaching staff is
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  Speaker 1: very high on. And you know, Steven Mattz has looked
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  Speaker 1: fine in this long relief role. We talked about the
• 8:59
  Speaker 1: differences and the balances that you have as an organization
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  Speaker 1: when you use you essentially have seven relievers and a
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  Speaker 1: long man, which is what Steven Mattz is, and that's
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  Speaker 1: difficult for usage. Like Stephen Mattz through three Indians yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: He's going to be down for at least three days,
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  Speaker 1: so then you really have seven relievers to choose from
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  Speaker 1: instead of eight. But this is the path the Cardinals
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  Speaker 1: wanted to go on, so that's where that's where they're
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  Speaker 1: going to be. I'm not worried about the bullpen yet.
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  Speaker 1: I think we give them a couple of days come
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: back from the road trip and we're still talking about
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: late inning leads being surrendered, then I will say I'm
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: sorry and maybe we can worry about it, but right
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  Speaker 1: now I think we all just take a deep breath.
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: They're knock going to win every single game, and we'll
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  Speaker 1: get into some of the reasons why I think this
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: has been such an encouraging start for the Cardinals after
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  Speaker 1: as we record this on Saturday, April fifth, hours before
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals, maybe maybe not play a game. I'm looking
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: out the window right now. It doesn't look like it's raining,
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  Speaker 1: but doesn't also look great. They're four and three, and
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: every single one of their games they've been competitive in.
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  Speaker 1: And while yesterday's game, I think there's gonna be some
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: griping over just because the pitching not good. Let's starting
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: the first inning, right, the Red Sox come out. They
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: hang a five spot on Eric Fetty. Fetty has virtually
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: zero command. He just doesn't look like himself. You kind
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: of knew from the jump it was not gonna be
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: a good day from him last year's team. If any
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: team puts on a five spot in the first inning
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: against the twenty twenty four Saint Louis Cardinals. That game
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: is over. They're not coming back from that. Now. I'm
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: packing it up. Close the scorebook, shut the computer. See
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: I have a great day this year's team. And I
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: think this was felt collectively across the riders, at least
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: the ones I was sitting next to. We're like, all right,
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: how are they going to come back from this one?
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: This is a good test for them to see if
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: this offense can rally back. If you're gonna give up
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: five runs, if you're gonna trail five zero, dude in
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: the first dungeon like the eighth, and they did. Von
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: Herrera continues to swing it three run homer, which off
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: the bat I did not think was leaving the yard.
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  Speaker 1: It might have been just a difficult day to pitch
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: at Fenway yesterday because balls were flying everywhere and they
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: continue to crawl back. Let me pull up the box
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  Speaker 1: score because there were so many lee changes yesterday that
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: it was kind of hard to keep up. So the
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: Red Sox score five in the first, Cardinals going, they
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: get a run back in the third, Boston scores again.
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  Speaker 1: Then that three run home or from Herrera and the
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: fourth makes it a six to four ball game. And
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: you're feeling much better about a situation. If it's six'
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: four in the fourth rather than five to zero in the,
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: first then it's a one run ball. Game The cardinals
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  Speaker 1: score again in the, fifth and then it gets a
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: little dicey. There Eric fetty gets through, five which is
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: important for bullpen length and saving. Arms that he gets
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: through five after coming out so rocky is. Important but
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: they tack two runs on The Red sox two and
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: then it just kind of becomes like a back and
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: forth scoring. Affair but, no The cardinals did not come
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: out on top of this. Situation this is an encouraging
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  Speaker 1: sign because they kept fighting, back they kept taking quality of.
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  Speaker 1: Avats you, know they were never out of, it even
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: in the ninth where The Red sox like tried to
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: give that ball game. Away cardinals score three times on
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: two errors in the, ninth then load the. Bases The
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: Red sox have to bring in their. Closer they have
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  Speaker 1: to bring in our oldest chapman to close that game,
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  Speaker 1: out which is not Something Alex kor wanted to. Do,
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  Speaker 1: no The cardinals didn't win that game of Von herrera
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  Speaker 1: bounced into a game any double. Play But Ollie marvel
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: talks about little victories within, losses AND i don't want
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: to sound like this is, like, oh you, know they're
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: trying their. Best this is not Where i'm coming, from
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: but from a baseball, perspective it is important if the
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: if your, team if you're The Red sox and you're
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: blowing out a team and they rally so hard that
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: all of a, sudden an off day for your closer
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: or a rest day for your, closer you now all
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: of a sudden have to put him in the. Ballgame
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  Speaker 1: that impacts your usage for the rest of the. Series so,
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  Speaker 1: no The cardinals did not win that ball that ball.
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  Speaker 1: Game they made it interesting the ninth they came up,
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  Speaker 1: short but The Red sox had to use their. Closer
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  Speaker 1: now it's a little bit impacted for the rest of the.
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  Speaker 1: Series the fight from this team is what's. Different and
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: as we're one week indo the, Season i'm curious drop
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  Speaker 1: me a note in the. Comments, okay that photo behind
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  Speaker 1: me quick side. Rant it is so. SCARY i literally
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  Speaker 1: can't look at it BEFORE i fall, asleep and now
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  Speaker 1: it's ALL i can see in the. Screen if you're
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  Speaker 1: on the, podcast you're not gonna know What i'm talking
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  Speaker 1: about but there is a frame photo in my very
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  Speaker 1: small hotel room and it freaks me. Out don't like. It,
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: anyway back to my, rant this is WHY i can't
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  Speaker 1: host solo BECAUSE i have the attention span of like
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: an actual. Squirrel last year's team did not have these
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: kinds of competitive. Bats and when we talked To alie
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: after the, game he, said you, know if we keep
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: having approaches like, this if they keep, fighting if they keep,
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: rallying every inning is like its own. Game he said
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: that from day one of the, season AND i do see,
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  Speaker 1: it because they could be trailing by, five they could
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: be down by, two they could be up by. Three
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  Speaker 1: their approach is the same they are unless. Offensively that
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: is a really good sign and a sign THAT i
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: think this club might be a little more. Fun So
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: i'm interested to know how fans are feeling about. This,
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: again it's only been a, week BUT i think there's
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  Speaker 1: some very encouraging early returns on the. Offense do you
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: feel the same WAY i? Do do you feel like
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: this approach is? Different do you feel like when the
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: team is losing that they're not exactly out of? It
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: BECAUSE i, do AND i did not feel that way last,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: year and most of the TIME i felt like after
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: a big scoring any and from or scoring opportunity from
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: the other, team that that game was. Over so the
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: last thing we're going to talk about, here BECAUSE i
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: need to get my life together and get To Fenway
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: park and beat the rain and also get a, Coffee
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk About Wilson conturrast a little, bit AND
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: i still don't think we have anything to be concerned.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: About he smoked a single in his lasted. Bat he
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: did check out three times before that and bounce into
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: a double. Play But i've got a couple of questions
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: on if it's time to Drop Wilson contra's down in the.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: ORDER i like him in the two, hole obviously all
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: the marvel does. TOO i don't think so, Yet but
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: let's see how the rest of This Red sox series. Goes.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Hope maybe you, know For, controrosts that hard hit ball
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: towards the end of the game yesterday got him back
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: on track because he really smoked. It it was, loud a
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: lot of anger in that. Swing but it hasn't been
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: a good start For. Controrosts let me look up his
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: stats real. Quick let me pull that. UP i should
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: have done this. Beforehand H he has two hits on the,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: season so that's. GOOD i also didn't spell his name.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Right even, better two hits on the. Year, uh his
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: hops is two. Eleven not. Great it's not what you.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Want we know he's been something to start the. Year
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: when do they when or if The cardinals drop him
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: down in the. ORDER i don't think it's time to
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: do that, yet because you want, to you, know support your.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Guy he is a, huge huge part of this offense
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: and you want to express confidence and, hey conturists, like
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be. Fine we're gonna keep him the two.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Hole but if The cardinals do drop, him MIGHT i
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: suggest for those of you who listened to other episodes
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: that it might be time For herrera in the two.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Hole i'm manifesting. This Olie marmele likes the lefty, righty
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: lefty righty split at the top of the. LINEUP i
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: think it makes a lot of, sense AND i think
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: the players like it. Too like we talked about before
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: in prior, episodes it's really hard as a opposing manager
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: to game plan when you go, lefty, righty lefty, Brighty
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: so sure could another lefty come. Up you know you're
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: thinking like A burleson, maybe but then you have three
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: lefties at the top of your, order and that's you
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: create a lane for the opposing manager to manage against.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: You AND i don't Think allie marmal is going to do.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: That so if The cardinals get to the point where
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: they feel like they no longer can Have contrarast in
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: the two hole, AGAIN i don't think they're there, yet
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: but let's you, know hypothetically, SPEAKING i Think herrera is
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: the natural fit to go. There he's looked great his
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: three homer. Game we talked about that and the last
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: episode With bernie the. Swing everything looks fine. THERE i
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: guess the, moral like the point of this episode is
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: let's all just take a deep. Breath let's be a little.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: PATIENT i know we don't have that. SETTING i get.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: It i'm prepared to ride the rollercoaster with you guys every.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: YEAR i know that. This you, know after two three
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: game sample, size fans want to shake it. UP i,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Understand But i'm just saying, here whether it's the, bullpen
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: whether It's wils And conturists slump to start the, year
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: let's just give it a little bit more, time let's
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: see where the team is at after the road, trip
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: and then Maybe Alli marmal shakes it. UP i will
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: say this, YEAR i thought he always managed well in
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: terms of lineup, construction playing, time when to use different.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: GUYS i loved him pinch Hitting baker in that situation
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: in the ninth there, also that was a great bat From.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Luken baker was definitely swinging for the monster there in
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: a scoring, opportunity which is the whole point of his.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Role but you Saw Brent brown's whole strategy in that at.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Bat there's a time he, hit there's a time of.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Slug he was, slugging and then he didn't get the
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: pitch he. Wanted he was super selective and he worked
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: a pivotal. Walk so shout Out Lucan. Baker that was
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: just another sign to me that the offense is Clicking cardinals.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: FANS i think this team is going to be better
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: than we might have initially thought me at least to
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: start the. Season and drop me in the comments too
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: if you feel like that's the. Same we'll do a
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: mail bag episode. Soon we're kind of due for. That
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: but before before we say, GOODBYES i would just like
• 19:11
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• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Weather Andre polante is supposed to start today at five.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: TEN i don't. KNOW i don't even know what time
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the game, is oh, god somewhere in the five O'clock
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: eastern time. Range and Then sunday night Baseball Miles michaels.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Tomorrow if The cardinals get rained out, today they will
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: play a doubleheader. Tomorrow most, likely just talking to some
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: people at the. Ballpark The cardinals And Red sox obviously
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: do not play again this season after this, year so
• 20:17
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• 20:19
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• 20:29
  Speaker 1: With bernie at the end of the. Series we'll let
• 20:30
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• 20:32
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• 20:34
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• 20:38
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• 20:40
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