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Is Grandpa an Alien? (And Four Other Cases of UFO Contact) · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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  Speaker 1: Hello, everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to
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  Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. Today's episode
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  Speaker 1: is called, Is Grandpa an Alien? And Four Other True
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  Speaker 1: Cases of UFO Contact. I've had a couple of you
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  Speaker 1: request that I do readings from some of my books,
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  Speaker 1: so I thought that's what I would do today. I've
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  Speaker 1: picked out five cases from various books that I think
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  Speaker 1: are a little bit different, more extensive. unusual and have
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  Speaker 1: something to contribute to our understanding of the UFO phenomenon
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  Speaker 1: and these five cases are among my favorite so I
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  Speaker 1: will be basically doing a little reading of an excerpt
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  Speaker 1: from various books so let's just get started and the
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  Speaker 1: first case I'd like to talk about I call I
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  Speaker 1: did not exist for a day and this is from
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  Speaker 1: my book UFOs over New York. It's a very unusual
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  Speaker 1: case involving missing time. In the summer of 1973, Wall
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  Speaker 1: Street executive Frank Hoffman, pseudonym, was returning home to New
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  Speaker 1: York from a business convention in Hawaii via a 747.
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  Speaker 1: When he looked out the window, he was shocked to
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  Speaker 1: see a Nobody else saw it, and after five seconds,
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  Speaker 1: it disappeared. Frank was amazed, but he remained silent about
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  Speaker 1: his sighting and continued to flirt with the lady who
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  Speaker 1: sat next to him. He returned home, and the next date,
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  Speaker 1: he had a date with the lady he met on
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  Speaker 1: the plane. She was also from New York, and they
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  Speaker 1: agreed to go out for dinner that night. Frank arrived
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  Speaker 1: at her East End Avenue apartment that evening, However, his date,
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  Speaker 1: it turned out, was very upset She asked him why
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  Speaker 1: had he broken the date He told her that she
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  Speaker 1: was wrong He hadn't broken the date He was exactly
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  Speaker 1: on time She disagreed and showed him a newspaper and
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  Speaker 1: pointed to the date Frank was shocked It was fully
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  Speaker 1: 24 hours later than it should have been He was
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  Speaker 1: missing for one entire day When Frank returned to work,
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  Speaker 1: his co-workers also demanded to know where he had been
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  Speaker 1: the previous day. They had made several calls to his residence,
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  Speaker 1: but nobody answered. Frank had no explanation nor any memory
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  Speaker 1: of what happened during the missing 24 hours. His only
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  Speaker 1: theory was that it had something to do with the
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  Speaker 1: UFO he had seen the day before while flying on
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  Speaker 1: the 747. as he says, and I quote, it was
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  Speaker 1: as though I did not exist for a day. So
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  Speaker 1: as you can see, that is a very, very strange case.
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  Speaker 1: And now we move on to the next case. And
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  Speaker 1: this second case I call the abduction of Tom Murillo.
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  Speaker 1: This comes from my book, UFOs Over New Mexico. And
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  Speaker 1: this case was originally investigated by researcher Kenneth Ring. And
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  Speaker 1: it's a pretty interesting case. One evening in 1976, Tom Murillo,
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  Speaker 1: then a 39-year-old heavy equipment operator, got into a family
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  Speaker 1: quarrel and decided to drive out onto the prairie southwest
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  Speaker 1: of the small New Mexico town where he lived. He
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  Speaker 1: parked his truck and left the radio on as he
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  Speaker 1: walked around the truck to cool down. At some point,
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  Speaker 1: he heard a rustling sound in the surrounding sagebrush. Says Tom,
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  Speaker 1: I looked up to see a tall figure. I called
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  Speaker 1: out and got no answer, to which I started calling
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  Speaker 1: him bad words. The figure backed out of view and
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  Speaker 1: Tom sensed that something was wrong and started to get
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  Speaker 1: back into his truck. Unfortunately, he was too late. As
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  Speaker 1: he says, and I quote, I heard this whirling noise
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  Speaker 1: above me to which I couldn't move at all. As
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  Speaker 1: an elevator formed, a tube engulfed me and I was
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  Speaker 1: raised up into this spacecraft where I was inserted into
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  Speaker 1: some kind of tube-like space. I floated through some kind
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  Speaker 1: of passage which took me to a big room where
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  Speaker 1: I landed on a glass-like table. Tom lay on this table,
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  Speaker 1: unable to move any part of his body except his eyes.
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  Speaker 1: Shortly later, four seven-foot-tall, gray-skinned aliens walked in. They had
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  Speaker 1: hands with three fingers and were wearing a, quote, flexible
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  Speaker 1: armor-type suit with, quote, strange helmets that covered their faces.
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  Speaker 1: These four ETs first observed Tom They then undressed him
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  Speaker 1: and began a physical examination using a scanning device that
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  Speaker 1: formed a ring around the table and his entire body.
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  Speaker 1: As Tom says, All the data picked up by the
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  Speaker 1: scanning device was fed into a strange-shaped gray screen where
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  Speaker 1: I was fortunate to see my insides, my heart, my stomach,
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  Speaker 1: and other parts. I just lay there as they examined
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  Speaker 1: me I felt scared, but sensed that they were not
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  Speaker 1: out to harm me. I could pick up somehow some
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  Speaker 1: thought waves of a friendly nature. They were friendly. So
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  Speaker 1: the ETs expressed real interest in the fact that Tom
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  Speaker 1: had 10 fingers and toes, and during this examination, they
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  Speaker 1: repeatedly returned to re-examine his fingers. Although the ETs seemed friendly,
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  Speaker 1: Tom sensed that his frightened state allowed very little communication.
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  Speaker 1: After this lengthy physical examination, the ETs conversed among themselves.
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  Speaker 1: They then lifted Tom from the table, quickly dressed him
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  Speaker 1: in his clothes, and inserted him back into the same
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  Speaker 1: tube-like elevator that they had used to draw him into
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  Speaker 1: the craft. Moments later, Tom found himself, quote, set free
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  Speaker 1: on solid earth to find myself with no sense of
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  Speaker 1: direction whatsoever. So having no idea where he was, Tom
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  Speaker 1: looked around and saw that he was in the same
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  Speaker 1: prairie where he had parked his truck. He then saw
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  Speaker 1: moonlight glinting off the windshield of his truck, and as
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  Speaker 1: he says, I then broke to pieces as my whole
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  Speaker 1: body shook uncontrollably. I cried, oh God, why me? I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't calm myself as I cried like a baby. I
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  Speaker 1: was still shaking a lot, but finally started my truck.
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  Speaker 1: It died on me several times till I started crying again.
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  Speaker 1: I finally half-controlled myself and started the truck and made
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  Speaker 1: it home. I don't know, but I did get home. Now,
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  Speaker 1: moving on to the third case that I'd like to
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  Speaker 1: talk about. I call this case Missing Time in Mound House.
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  Speaker 1: This is from my book, UFOs Over Nevada. And it's
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  Speaker 1: a very, very unusual case involving a gentleman who had
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  Speaker 1: an incredible encounter, one that I've never quite heard like
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  Speaker 1: this before. So let's just get started. The witness to
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  Speaker 1: this testimony, this case, is anonymous. I call him Paul.
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  Speaker 1: And as Paul says, this is a real, true encounter
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  Speaker 1: and I do not wish to be known. It has
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  Speaker 1: actually been a hard thing for me to deal with
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  Speaker 1: in my life. Paul is a resident of Dayton in Nevada,
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  Speaker 1: and it was around 11 p.m. on an April night
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  Speaker 1: in 1996 when Paul, who was 25 years old, was
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  Speaker 1: returning home to retrieve his guitar and then spend the
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  Speaker 1: night jamming with his friend Chris, a Hopi Native American musician.
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  Speaker 1: back in town. So Paul was driving on Highway 50
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  Speaker 1: East near Mound House, Nevada, and was listening to the radio.
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  Speaker 1: He had just passed the Virginia City exit when he
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  Speaker 1: noticed four extremely bright white-blue lights flying about 50 feet
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  Speaker 1: over the mouth of a small canyon. He thought at
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  Speaker 1: first it was a jet flying much too low until
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  Speaker 1: he realized that the lights were actually hovering. They lit
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  Speaker 1: up the sagebrush on the hill, bright as day, he said,
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  Speaker 1: reminding him of stadium lights. He was confused to see
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  Speaker 1: something moving around underneath the object, and as he got closer,
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  Speaker 1: he realized that the object was neither a plane nor
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  Speaker 1: a helicopter, and in fact, it appeared to be a UFO.
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  Speaker 1: And jokingly, he said out loud, Ha ha, you know
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  Speaker 1: I can see you. And at that exact moment, the
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  Speaker 1: lights began to move towards the highway as if to
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  Speaker 1: head him off at the mountain pass. Paul noticed at
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  Speaker 1: this time that there were no other cars on the highway.
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  Speaker 1: His heart was racing fast, but he was both frightened
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  Speaker 1: and curious. His radio, which was playing loudly, now became
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  Speaker 1: filled with static. As he approached the pass, a small
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  Speaker 1: embankment blocked out his view of the object, but as
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  Speaker 1: he crested the pass, he was amazed to see that
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  Speaker 1: the lights had landed on the side of the highway.
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  Speaker 1: This object was about 20 feet away, and he could
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  Speaker 1: now clearly see that it was a solid craft. As
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  Speaker 1: Paul says, I was gazing into the middle of a
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  Speaker 1: set of windows. I was staring straight into a spacecraft
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  Speaker 1: from another world. It was indeed a saucer. There were
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  Speaker 1: long windows draping all the way across and around. I
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  Speaker 1: saw the tiers, or stories, the floors. I saw the walls.
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  Speaker 1: Everything inside was white. Paul was shocked, and as he says,
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  Speaker 1: This was real. I was mesmerized. This was incredibly astounding.
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  Speaker 1: I had no clue what to think or anything. All
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  Speaker 1: I could do was stare and observe. And Paul was
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  Speaker 1: even more shocked when he noticed that there were humanoid
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  Speaker 1: figures looking back at him through the windows. The first
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  Speaker 1: ones he saw were behind the left bottom window, and
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  Speaker 1: as Paul says, they were all wearing white robes. There
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  Speaker 1: was a female, she had a bracelet and a necklace on,
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  Speaker 1: gold or silver, and makeup like blush on her cheeks.
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  Speaker 1: Her arm was on the shoulder of a younger one,
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  Speaker 1: a boy, and they were looking right at me, right
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  Speaker 1: into my eyes. She nudged to him and spoke to
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  Speaker 1: the other younger children along the window, maybe ten or
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  Speaker 1: so more. They were all smaller, like a five-year-old. She
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  Speaker 1: was talking to the older boy and them without speaking,
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  Speaker 1: and to me. I felt a joyful feeling inside as
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  Speaker 1: they gazed into my eyes. She then smiled and pointed
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  Speaker 1: at me as to show them that I understood her
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  Speaker 1: and them. So Paul described this female and the children
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  Speaker 1: as looking like the stereotypical gray ET with grayish skin,
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  Speaker 1: hands with three fingers and a thumb. He said the
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  Speaker 1: eyes were large and almond-shaped. though instead of pure black,
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  Speaker 1: they appeared to have whites with irises of different colors,
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  Speaker 1: including blue and green. So while he was enjoying the
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  Speaker 1: telepathic rapport with the female ET, his attention was drawn
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  Speaker 1: to the second story windows. And as Paul says, I
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  Speaker 1: looked up to the second story. There were two beings
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  Speaker 1: there in the middle of the room. One of them
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  Speaker 1: had a long, enlarged skull, and dark brown skin. He
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  Speaker 1: wore a white robe and was holding what appeared to
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  Speaker 1: be a clipboard. Paul says that they briefly made eye contact,
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  Speaker 1: at which point Paul noticed that the being had blue irises.
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  Speaker 1: This being appeared to be upset that they were being observed,
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  Speaker 1: and he turned to another being which was different from
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  Speaker 1: the others. According to Paul, this different being had a
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  Speaker 1: human-shaped skull which was hairless and covered with wrinkles. As
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  Speaker 1: Paul says, and again I quote, He was not in white.
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  Speaker 1: He was wearing a black suit from what I could see.
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  Speaker 1: He turned his face towards me, right after the one
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  Speaker 1: with the clipboard looked at him after seeing me. He
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  Speaker 1: turned his face to me. Oh my God, was I scared.
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  Speaker 1: He was so old-looking that it sent shivers all over me.
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  Speaker 1: His face was all wrinkled and old, and his eyes
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  Speaker 1: were all beady. They were pure black. As he and
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  Speaker 1: I stared at each other in the eye, I realized
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  Speaker 1: he was a man. He was a human. I was petrified.
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  Speaker 1: I was scared. He gave me this snarling look, yet
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  Speaker 1: at the same time, I could see his smarts. There
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  Speaker 1: was some kind of big screen in front of him,
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  Speaker 1: blinking at the outer rim of the window's edge on
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  Speaker 1: his floor. He then looked directly at me, raised up
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  Speaker 1: his hand with very long fingers, and smiled or smirked
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  Speaker 1: as he hit a button on some kind of panel
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  Speaker 1: in front of him. Instantly, says Paul, the windows covered
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  Speaker 1: them up with a fan-like shell that was like ripples
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  Speaker 1: of a Chinese fan. descending from the top. So as
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  Speaker 1: these windows sealed up, the object lit up with lights
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  Speaker 1: around its circumference and began spinning. Paul heard a loud
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  Speaker 1: humming noise and watched as the object tilted at a
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  Speaker 1: 45 degree angle and spinning faster and faster, slowly became
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  Speaker 1: almost transparent until suddenly darting straight up in the sky.
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  Speaker 1: Paul drove the rest of the distance down the hill,
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  Speaker 1: which was about two minutes, and then he pulled over.
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  Speaker 1: And looking around him at this point, he was shocked
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  Speaker 1: to see that it was already the next morning and
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  Speaker 1: the road was now busy with cars. So he was
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  Speaker 1: now thoroughly confused and utterly exhausted, and he continued his
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  Speaker 1: drive home and went to bed. He has no memory
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  Speaker 1: of what happened between 11 p.m. when he last saw
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  Speaker 1: the object, and the next morning. And when he found
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  Speaker 1: himself at the bottom of the hill, he estimates that
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  Speaker 1: a period of at least nine hours had elapsed. As
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  Speaker 1: Paul says, I cannot remember for the life of me.
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  Speaker 1: There was nine hours that I cannot remember. How could
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  Speaker 1: I be driving a car and be abducted? That doesn't
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  Speaker 1: make sense. I just drove down the hill and it
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  Speaker 1: was daytime. What the hell happened to me? I want
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  Speaker 1: to know, kind of. I'm kind of scared to find out.
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  Speaker 1: I have only told a handful of people this story.
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  Speaker 1: There's more to it as well in the days and
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  Speaker 1: the months that followed. I will tell more if I
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  Speaker 1: get a chance. So Paul did report his case to
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  Speaker 1: both MUFON and NUFORC, the National UFO Reporting Center. Now
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  Speaker 1: for the fourth case, the fourth case I call Contact
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  Speaker 1: in Tonopah. This comes from my book, UFOs Over Arizona.
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  Speaker 1: This case involves four witnesses, one of whom reported his
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  Speaker 1: case to the Mutual UFO Network, MUFON. It's quite an
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  Speaker 1: unusual case, and I think you'll find it very interesting.
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  Speaker 1: On the evening of July 21, 2009, Henry, his friend James,
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  Speaker 1: and each of their girlfriends, Heather and Jamie drove to
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  Speaker 1: an area outside of Tonopah, not far from the Palo
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  Speaker 1: Verde Nuclear Power Plant in Arizona, in hopes of seeing
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  Speaker 1: a UFO. They had gone UFO hunting in this area
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  Speaker 1: before and had seen strange things in the sky. They
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  Speaker 1: knew that some of the local residents had seen UFOs
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  Speaker 1: there on a regular basis, and some said that they
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  Speaker 1: were chased by UFOs while driving their cars. And as
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  Speaker 1: Henry says, this is a hot spot. So this was
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  Speaker 1: about 10 miles away from Luke Air Force Base out
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  Speaker 1: in the desert. And they were driving out in a
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  Speaker 1: dirt road in the middle of nowhere, says Henry, when
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  Speaker 1: they saw a flashing light. They drove closer and were
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  Speaker 1: able to approach within 250 yards of this light, which
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  Speaker 1: now appeared to be a craft of some kind. At
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  Speaker 1: this point, their emotions were running high, and as Henry says,
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  Speaker 1: all of us were scared, but at the same time curious.
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  Speaker 1: My friend's girlfriend was crying and telling us to turn around.
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  Speaker 1: Henry and James, however, were transfixed by the sight. As
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  Speaker 1: Henry says, it was about the size of three football fields.
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  Speaker 1: It was triangular in shape with windows around it. was
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  Speaker 1: about three stories tall and 30 feet off the ground.
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  Speaker 1: We flashed our lights, and it flashed back in the
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  Speaker 1: same sequence of flashes. My friend James and I got
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  Speaker 1: out and walked closer. The closer we got, the better
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  Speaker 1: we could make out what was standing in the windows.
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  Speaker 1: And to their shock, they saw two different types of
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  Speaker 1: alien figures, including short figures with large heads, and other
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  Speaker 1: figures around 8 feet tall. As they watched, some of
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  Speaker 1: the windows, which had been darkened, lit up to reveal
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  Speaker 1: more alien figures. Now James was videotaping this entire event,
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  Speaker 1: and as Henry says, I was terrified but excited at
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  Speaker 1: the same time. We walked closer but had to stop
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  Speaker 1: because the heat coming from the craft was so intense.
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  Speaker 1: The craft hovered and then landed. A large panel at
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  Speaker 1: the bottom of the craft opened up, and then two
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  Speaker 1: aliens proceeded to walk out. This absolutely terrified us more,
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  Speaker 1: but we couldn't move or talk. I remember trying to
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  Speaker 1: scream and say run, but we couldn't move or talk.
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  Speaker 1: Heather and Jamie were in the car honking the horn,
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  Speaker 1: screaming to come back, but we couldn't respond or move.
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  Speaker 1: The aliens walked up to within 20 feet of us.
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  Speaker 1: One of them was very thin and tall, about 8
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  Speaker 1: to 9 feet, and the other was about 3 to
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  Speaker 1: 4 feet. We stood there in amazement and shock. So
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  Speaker 1: still unable to move, Henry and James had no choice
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  Speaker 1: but to wait for what would happen next. And as
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  Speaker 1: Henry says, then a calmness came over us. They were
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  Speaker 1: speaking to us telepathically. They were saying not to be scared.
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  Speaker 1: They weren't going to harm us. And this conversation went
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  Speaker 1: on between the four of us for 15 minutes. They
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  Speaker 1: said they were there to help us so that we
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  Speaker 1: would not destroy our planet and that there was a
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  Speaker 1: horrible event coming soon that it had to be stopped.
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  Speaker 1: James asked if it was something like 9-11 and they
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  Speaker 1: said no, bigger, and it would be coming from the
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  Speaker 1: Middle East. So as he stood there, Henry suddenly recalled
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  Speaker 1: having been visited by these same ETs earlier in his
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  Speaker 1: life as a young child. One of these ETs then
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  Speaker 1: confirmed this and told Henry that they contacted him when
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  Speaker 1: he was just six years old. And this conversation continued.
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  Speaker 1: The ETs said that they had been expecting them and
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  Speaker 1: that they wanted Henry and James to warn people about
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  Speaker 1: what would happen if humans didn't start taking care of
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  Speaker 1: their planet. And as Henry says, visions of disasters entered
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  Speaker 1: our head as if to show us Us, what was
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  Speaker 1: to come if we didn't warn people? The taller alien
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  Speaker 1: walked closer and held my hand, and I was no
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  Speaker 1: longer scared. Neither was James. He said he would see
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  Speaker 1: him again soon and to warn people about saving our planet,
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  Speaker 1: to both James and I. At this point, the conversation ended.
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  Speaker 1: The ETs turned around and entered the craft, which departed
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  Speaker 1: in a split second. Henry and James, who had recorded
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  Speaker 1: the entire event, both fell to the ground in shock.
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  Speaker 1: They immediately got to their feet and went back to
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  Speaker 1: the car. The girlfriends were no longer crying but just
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  Speaker 1: hugged them. They tried to start the car, but at
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  Speaker 1: first the engine wouldn't turn over. They sat there for
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  Speaker 1: about a minute when finally the car worked, and they
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  Speaker 1: started to drive away when suddenly there was a bright
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  Speaker 1: spotlight on their car. and three military helicopters appeared overhead.
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  Speaker 1: Seconds later, there were five military jeeps following them. The
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  Speaker 1: girls started crying, while Henry told James to hide the camera.
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  Speaker 1: Henry continued to drive away until somebody in one of
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  Speaker 1: the jeeps began to speak over a loudspeaker, ordering them
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  Speaker 1: to pull over or they would be forced to shoot.
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  Speaker 1: And as Henry says, we pulled over, and military soldiers
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  Speaker 1: surrounded the car, Two men dressed in black opened the
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  Speaker 1: door and asked us to get out. While the other
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  Speaker 1: men searched the car, one man began to question the witnesses,
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  Speaker 1: asking why they were in that area, what they had seen,
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  Speaker 1: how long they had been there, if they had any
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  Speaker 1: contact with the alien craft, they wanted to know the
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  Speaker 1: size of the craft, the shape of the craft, and
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  Speaker 1: if they had communicated with the ETs. Henry and the
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  Speaker 1: others played dumb We answered no to everything, says Henry.
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  Speaker 1: The men searching the car found the camera and after
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  Speaker 1: reviewing it, confiscated the camera and told the witnesses that
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  Speaker 1: they were not to speak of the incident. Then, one
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  Speaker 1: of these officials separated Henry from the others and questioned
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  Speaker 1: him in the back of one of their vehicles and
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  Speaker 1: the man wanted to know if Henry had any prior
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  Speaker 1: experiences with the ETs. Henry denied this and the military
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  Speaker 1: officials dropped him off at a restaurant in Tonopah near
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  Speaker 1: Interstate 10, and Henry called James from there. It was
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: one month after the incident that Henry reported his encounter
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  Speaker 1: to the National UFO Reporting Center, writing, and I quote,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: It was a crazy night, but I had to report this.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Our evidence is gone, but this really happened. We questioned
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: people who lived in the area, and they all saw
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  Speaker 1: the craft and the military soon after, so we aren't crazy.
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  Speaker 1: And there are four of us who witnessed this, along
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  Speaker 1: with the people who live in the area who saw
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  Speaker 1: the craft. We talked to 15 people who lived in
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  Speaker 1: the area, and all but one saw the craft. And
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: now for the final case, the one that I really
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  Speaker 1: wanted to present to you today, which I call, Is
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Grandpa an Alien? This is excerpted from my book, UFOs
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Over Colorado, and involves a witness by the name of
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Marty Minetto, who has a very poignant and interesting UFO
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: encounter that he shared with MUFON. And I'd like to
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: present this case to you because it is so unusual.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter whether you believe me or not, says
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Marty Minetto, the main witness to this case. And then
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: he adds, it did happen. On April 9, 1955, Marty,
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  Speaker 1: who was then five years old, was approached by his grandfather, Samuel,
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  Speaker 1: during bedtime. And his grandfather asked, do you scare easily? No,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Marty replied. His grandfather said, are you a strong young
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: man and not afraid of new things if I am
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  Speaker 1: with you and take care of you? Yes, Marty said.
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  Speaker 1: His grandfather said, I want you to go with me
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  Speaker 1: on a walk Saturday and you will see great things,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: but you are to tell no one. You can never
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: tell your mom or dad or brothers or sisters because
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: it could hurt grandpa and grandma and they might have
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: to move far away. Marty told his grandfather, I would
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: never tell. His grandfather Samuel hugged him and asked, Do
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: you promise? Yes, said Marty. So Marty's grandfather Samuel often
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: shared special stories with Marty that were for him and
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: nobody else. And many of these stories, Marty says, he
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: didn't understand, other than that they were about great wonders
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: and people from far off places. And although Marty had
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: many siblings, he shared a special bond with his grandfather,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: and would never reveal his secrets. So Samuel called for
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Marty's grandmother, and he turned to her and told her,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I am going to show the boy tomorrow so he
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: understands what I've been telling him. Tell his mom we
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: will be okay, but we might be late getting home.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: At this point, Marty's grandmother began crying, and Marty felt
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: bad for her and asked, What's wrong, Grandma? And she said, nothing.
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  Speaker 1: And he said, don't cry, Mama. It's okay. And she said,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I am crying because tomorrow you will know who you are.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: This is a good thing. Tomorrow is going to be
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: a wonderful day for you. Stay close to Grandpa, listen
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: to him, and just do what he says. Do not
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: be afraid of some things you might see. It's okay
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: to always trust Grandpa. At this point, she hugged Marty
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: and told him to go to bed. And she warned
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Samuel that only Marty was to go and that none
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: of his other siblings could go or know anything about this.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: And of course, Marty's grandfather Samuel agreed. According to Marty,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: and I quote, That night was hard to sleep as
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: what lay ahead for me the next day kept me
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: awake most of the night. So the next morning arrived,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: and after breakfast, Marty's grandfather approached him and said, Are
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: you ready to go for that walk? Marty was excited,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: as he and his grandfather left their rural Colorado farmhouse
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: and walked down a dirt road. Eventually, they left the
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: farmhouse behind them and were surrounded by fields. And suddenly,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Marty was shocked to see a, quote, very large oval-shaped
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: object that dropped down from the sky. It glowed orange,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: then turned bright white as it began to get low.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: A tripod landing gear descended and the object landed on
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: the road in front of them. And it was close
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: enough that he could feel the heat emanating from the craft.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: And as this craft settled on the dirt road, the
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: wind blew fiercely, kicking up a cloud of dust. Marty's grandfather, Samuel,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: picked him up and said, They're here, son. Please don't
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: be afraid. They're my friends and yours. Trust Grandpa. As
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Marty says, I wasn't scared at all. I don't know why,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: but I wasn't. So this craft, according to Marty, was
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: humming loudly. His grandfather set Marty down and said, Be
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: kind and respectful. Stand where you are and don't move
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: until I tell you. At this point, a door opened
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: on the side of the object and two people walked
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: out and moved toward them Now, at this point, Marty
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: began to feel some fear. His grandfather approached these men
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: and began to speak a strange language unknown to Marty.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: They touched hands and shoulders, and after a few minutes,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: the two men and his grandfather approached Marty. And Marty said,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: What were you saying? His grandfather said, It is the
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: old talk from where Grandma and I came from. and
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: he pointed to one of the figures, a man with
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: a blue shirt and white pants, and said, This person
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: is a friend of Grandma's. I want you to touch
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: his hand and say hello to Ostino. Go with him,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: and I'll meet you inside in a few minutes. You
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: will be okay, no matter what. Don't speak until they
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: tell you. Do you understand, Marty? Marty said yes, and Ostino,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: this man, held out his hand which Marty took, and
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: together they walked to the right side of the object
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: where Marty could see a large doorway, and they went inside.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: And inside, Marty was surprised to see that this object
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: was huge, much bigger on the inside than the outside,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: and it was filled with numerous people engaged in all
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: kinds of activity. Ostino led him up a ramp into
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: a room that reminded Marty of a doctor's office. There
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: were tables and lights and metallic walls. Another person picked
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Marty up and put him on one of the tables.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: He then placed this, quote, crown-looking thing with two bent
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: prongs on the top, and then he put this thing
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: on Marty's head. And Marty felt a brief flash of
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: pain and then was surprised to hear the man speaking.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Do you understand what I am saying to you? the
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: man said. Yes, Marty replied. The man asked, Would you
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: like to see a great wonder? Your friends would like
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: you to see your grandpa's home. At this point, Marty
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: felt a soft movement and asked Ostino if they were moving.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: And Ostino said that yes. In fact, they had been
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: moving for some time. And would Marty like to take
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: a look around the ship with him? Marty said yes,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: and as they walked around, Marty asked where his grandfather was.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Ostino replied, he is with friends and will be with
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: us soon. It was a short time later that Marty's
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: grandfather appeared. His grandfather told Ostino to go ahead and
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: show Marty the craft, but only the safe areas. So
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Ostino began to give Marty a tour of this craft.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: And Marty was absolutely surprised by the sheer size of
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: this craft, which he estimates was as big as a
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: football field on the inside and was filled with human-looking people.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: The craft, he estimated, was 40 feet high, 120 feet long,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: with two whitish-pink decks. So Ostino asked Marty, Are you
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: hungry or thirsty? And Marty replied, could I have something
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: to drink? And as Marty says, he, Ostino, went over
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: to this wall, put his hand on this thing, and
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: water filled this container. I drank it, and let me
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: tell you, it was great. I could not believe how
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: good it tasted. He showed me if I pinched the
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: glass in this spot, watch what would happen. I did,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: and the glass turned cold. Marty says this liquid appeared
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: to be water, but tasted better. And Marty asked Ostino,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: holding this glass, can I keep it? Ostino replied, no,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: it has to stay here. And next, Ostino showed him
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: the engine room, which made a low humming noise, and
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: he told Marty that their engines ran on water and
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: with the aid of Earth's magnetic field. And he said
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: that one day, the people on Earth would learn how
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: to use water and the magnetic fields of Earth to
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: power their vehicles. And he explained that their own engines
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: allowed them to go as fast or slow as they
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: wanted and that they could slip into and out of
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: time at will. So even at that age, Marty was
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: very impressed and he told Ostino he wanted to become
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: a pilot when he grew up. And then he asked Ostino,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Where do you come from? Ostino replied, We come from
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: between my time and yours. We come from a place
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: here on earth, but beneath your time in a different phase.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: We are with you all the time. You will learn
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: more as you get older. You are the first in
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: a long time to come and know these things. We
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: are a good people and one day you will understand,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: but not now. Let's go to your grandfather. At this point,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: they walked through the crowded hallways until they found Marty's grandfather, Samuel,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: who scooped Marty up into his arms. At this point,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: his grandfather pulled this helmet from his head and returned
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: it to Ostino. Marty speculates that this was a translator
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: helmet that allowed him to communicate with the ZTs. At
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: that point, there was a soft thump and suddenly Marty
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: found himself being carried outside the craft by his grandfather.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: This ship was still parked on the dirt road next
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: to them at this point. Marty tried to talk with
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: his grandfather about the flying object and the strange men,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: but at this point the ship took off, and his
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: grandfather said, Be quiet. Say nothing, and one day I
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: will talk about it. But if you say anything now,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: The sheriff will take you away and you will not
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: see your family again. I will go to jail and
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: your mom and dad too. You can only talk to
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: me about it. If you need to talk, you are
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: to say, Papa, will you read me a book? So
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: it wasn't long before there was a second incident. Marty
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: recalls only being released from the craft and greeted by
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: his grandfather. As Marty says, the next thing I remember,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: I was standing in the road with my cowboy boots
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: in my hand. His grandfather was there and asked him,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Do you know where you have been? Marty said, I
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: was right here when this plane landed. And his grandfather said, Well,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: the whole town is looking for you. And he told
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Marty that it was now 1.30 in the morning. So
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: they started to walk home when a car drove up,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: followed by several others. someone jumped out and ran to
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Marty's grandfather and asked him, are you Samuel, they asked.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: And Marty's grandfather said, yes, and I found him. And
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: soon there were cars and people everywhere. Marty kept his
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: promise to his grandfather and told nobody where he and
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: his grandfather had been. But following these incidents, Marty did
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: have several dreams about being inside. He asked his grandfather
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: about these experiences. but his grandfather wouldn't answer, only saying,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: don't worry, you are going to see something so wonderful,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: it will change your life. So Marty grew up, and
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: as an adult, he had further on-board encounters, which Marty
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: has not yet revealed, other than to say, what I've
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: got to tell you would knock your socks off. It
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: was many years later, that Marty's grandfather spoke more with
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Marty about the second childhood incident. As Marty says, just
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: before my grandfather passed away, we talked about that night,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: and he said how he had found me. He was
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: walking to the shed and saw this very bright light
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: on the road and went to see if one of
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: the searchers had found me. And he saw this thing
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: lift into the air, and in the light on the road,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: he saw me standing there with my my cowboy boots
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: in my hand Marty's grandfather asked him why did you
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: take your cowboy boots off Marty replied they said I
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: had to go and that I didn't have time to
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: put them on as my feet needed to be dry
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: first so Marty still remembers watching this craft light up,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: change colors, and dart away in a flash. And since
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: this initial incidence, these two incidents, Marty says he has
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: seen the same craft at least five times. Not up close,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: he says, but always from a distance. So, despite his
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: grandfather's admonishments to remain silent, Marty did later share his
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: encounters with his family, and the results were not good.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: They accused him of lying or being crazy, and 50
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: years later, Marty finally reported his sighting to MUFON, writing,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: and I quote, Until now, I have honored his wish,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: but I am getting older, and I felt I needed
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: to tell someone. I have so much more to tell,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: but I just don't know if anyone would believe me.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Before I pass away, I felt I should tell someone.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Thank you, at least, for reading this. So that's it
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: for today. Those five cases, again, are excerpted from various books.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: UFOs over New Mexico, UFOs over New York, UFOs over Colorado,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: UFOs over Nevada, and UFOs over Arizona. I think each
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: of these cases has similarities, but each case is also unique.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: And I hope you've enjoyed this episode today. I truly
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: appreciate you watching. And until next time, keep having fun.