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999, Part 2 – The Bigger Agenda – With Roger Meacock And Sandi Adams · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Well hello and welcome back to another UK Column interview.
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Speaker 1: And you know what, happy new year because this is
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Speaker 1: my first interview of the new year, and it's happy
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Speaker 1: New Year two to all of you and to my
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Speaker 1: two guests, Sandy Adams and Roger me Cock. And this
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Speaker 1: is part two of what we believe at UK Column
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Speaker 1: will be a very valuable resource for every farmer and
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Speaker 1: indeed every member of the public, all of us really
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Speaker 1: who want healthy food and local food. And this is
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Speaker 1: going to be an exclusive record actually of the future
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Speaker 1: of farming, how we got here, the future of animals
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Speaker 1: and also our food. And it's taken hours of research.
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Speaker 1: Both Roger and Sandy have literally taken our hours to
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Speaker 1: do this and we believe it's going to stand the
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Speaker 1: test of time because we could be living in another
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Speaker 1: era of book burning and digital burning. So make sure
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Speaker 1: you download these two interviews because it's going to be
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Speaker 1: history in the making. And land is valuable, so is
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Speaker 1: agriculture valuable. And at the moment we're seeing wildfires in
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Speaker 1: the USA, which is claiming a lot of land, We're
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Speaker 1: seeing floods in the United Kingdom which claims a lot
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Speaker 1: of land, seeing solar farms springing up. We're seeing wind
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Speaker 1: farms springing up, but we're not seeing a lot of
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Speaker 1: farming going on. And farmers, are you being told the truth?
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Speaker 1: In Part one, Sandy Adams, who you know is an
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Speaker 1: expert by experience and has got nearly two decades of
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Speaker 1: researching into the United Nations Sustainable Goals agenda, and Roger Meecock,
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Speaker 1: a consultant veterory surgeon, brought you a presentation to bring
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Speaker 1: you up to date how we got here. We don't
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Speaker 1: expect you and farm as your busy people, to do
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Speaker 1: all of this research yourself, which is why we've tried
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Speaker 1: to condense it into these two episodes. Possibly if we
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Speaker 1: might have to go into three, let's see how we go.
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Speaker 1: But we're going to be looking into sustainable goals, We're
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Speaker 1: going to be looking into everything that's coming up in
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Speaker 1: the future, including super farms. And for farmers, please listen.
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Speaker 2: We know you're busy.
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Speaker 1: To the public, all of you that are listening now,
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Speaker 1: please support your local farms. Farmers, we will support you.
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Speaker 1: We're right behind kind you. We need your food, we
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Speaker 1: need your beautiful food, we really do. And to small businesses,
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Speaker 1: it'll be you next. We're going to move on to
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Speaker 1: what is happening now in twenty twenty five, the Sustainable
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Speaker 1: Goals and Sandy and Roger have got another short presentation
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Speaker 1: and then we're going to be talking about Bovia.
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Speaker 2: Lah, We're going to be talking.
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Speaker 1: About what farmers should expect, what vet you'd expect. So
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Speaker 1: we're going to have a discussion, so please stay with us.
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Speaker 1: But for now, let's say hello and happy New Year.
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Speaker 1: First two, Roger, thank you so much for joining us again.
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Speaker 1: Say hello to everybody.
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Speaker 3: Hi everybody. Great to be back, DeBie and looking forward
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Speaker 3: to what we're about to do.
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Speaker 1: Fantastic and Sandy, Happy new Year, and welcome back for
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Speaker 1: part two.
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Speaker 4: Happy new year everyone. I hope you had a good one. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: thank you. Yes, it's really great to be back and
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Speaker 4: to do another episode of this. Thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: Well it's going to be a hugely valuable resource, I know,
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Speaker 1: moving forwards and with that, I'm not going to waste
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Speaker 1: any more time because we've got an awful lot to
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Speaker 1: get through. So Sandy, over to you, Sustainable Goals. How
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Speaker 1: did we get here? And we're here now? So what
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Speaker 1: have we got to look forward to?
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Speaker 4: The Sustainable Goals Really they were broad about in twenty fifteen,
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Speaker 4: because as we know, the UN had tried with the
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Speaker 4: eight Millennium Goals, they have failed to be sort of
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Speaker 4: brought to a conclusion. By two thousand they were called
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Speaker 4: the eight Millennium Goals, and so by twenty fifteen they
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Speaker 4: were getting a bit edgy need to accelerate the agenda,
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Speaker 4: and so they put together a huge conference in Rome
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Speaker 4: with the President Obama flew over to launch the seventeen
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Speaker 4: Goals of Agenda twenty thirty, and they then called it
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Speaker 4: Agenda twenty thirty, so it was Agenda twenty one. It
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Speaker 4: became Agenda twenty thirty in September twenty fifteen when they
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Speaker 4: launched the seventeen Goals at the Vatican basically in Rome,
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Speaker 4: and President Obama he made his keynote speech to the
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Speaker 4: United Nations General Assembly on the Future of the World
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Speaker 4: and to unbail Agenda twenty thirty they launched the seventeen goals,
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Speaker 4: and all of this was really a big push to
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Speaker 4: accelerate seventeen goals. And I mean, we could we could
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Speaker 4: just go into them if you like a little bit.
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Speaker 1: Seventeen goals, which ones specifically are we looking at with
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Speaker 1: regards to farming in land and smart cities and how
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Speaker 1: they get land grab from us.
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Speaker 4: I think life on land is a big one, and
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Speaker 4: life on land is really about revolutionizing the way land works,
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Speaker 4: and a lot of it is being a you know,
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Speaker 4: you have to if you have land, it has to
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Speaker 4: be sustainable land, and that's what they talk about in
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Speaker 4: Life on Land. Life on land is all about not
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Speaker 4: indulging in any anything that they that the un feel
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Speaker 4: is unsustainable. And so they've got many many NGOs set up,
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Speaker 4: even financial instruments set up now in order for you
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Speaker 4: to be able to achieve these goals, and some of
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Speaker 4: them are almost unachievable because the seventeen goals really want
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Speaker 4: this particular goal. Life on land is really about controlling
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Speaker 4: the land and not allowing the people that own the
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Speaker 4: land to control it.
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Speaker 1: If that makes any sense, It does make perfect sense.
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Speaker 1: In fact, it makes it. It's sort of the sustainable
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Speaker 1: goals when this is what I've been saying all along,
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Speaker 1: is that are unsustainable. And I noticed that goal too
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Speaker 1: is zero hunger, so that dovetails in quite well. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, perhaps which one of you wants to
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Speaker 1: take that, Sandy or roger, but zero hunger, how will
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Speaker 1: that be impacted by loss of land and farming or
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Speaker 1: is that a stupid question?
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Speaker 4: Well, it's not a stupid question, because you know, it's
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Speaker 4: a big ask to say, you know, sort of zero hunger.
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Speaker 4: You know, you know that the world has always struggled
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Speaker 4: with distribution and some countries having less than others. And
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Speaker 4: their idea is to make everything equal, which is a
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Speaker 4: very worthy idea. This is what the un always sort
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Speaker 4: of appear to look as though they're doing, is making
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Speaker 4: everything everything equal. But the thing is that with zero
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Speaker 4: zero hunger, their answer to that is GMO products, you know,
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Speaker 4: sort of a lot of almost like I mean, the
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Speaker 4: seventeen goals are really all about, particularly the zero hunger
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Speaker 4: one is all about creating mass literally mass food that
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Speaker 4: can be created on a mass scale. And we don't
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Speaker 4: need that because each country should be producing it should
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Speaker 4: be encouraged to produce their own food. But what they
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Speaker 4: want is a global food supply and creating that food supply,
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Speaker 4: they want to bring in things like robotics AI, if
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Speaker 4: you like. They want to control what goes into the food,
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Speaker 4: and also creating artificial food, which is really bad. They
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Speaker 4: want to phase out meat and dairy as we know,
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Speaker 4: and replace it with these meat these fake meat products
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Speaker 4: that you know are and sawyer and all you know,
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Speaker 4: And now they're even looking at algae and crickets so
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Speaker 4: that you know, they can phase out meat and dairy
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Speaker 4: and replace them with other forms of protein which in
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Speaker 4: my view are not They're not healthy. I think everybody
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Speaker 4: here would agree with that they're not healthy and that
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Speaker 4: it's frank and foods and we don't want it.
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Speaker 1: Well, I know that we're going to come on to
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Speaker 1: talk about Bovia in a bit because Roger's done a
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Speaker 1: very serious video to put out a warning on bova
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Speaker 1: so stay tuned for that. So life on land is
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Speaker 1: a sustainable goal fifteen, and you've also of course got
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Speaker 1: sustainable goal fourteen, which is life below water or fish farms.
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Speaker 1: We mustn't forget fishing, we forget what's going on as
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Speaker 1: well below the water. So sustainable goals playing into a
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Speaker 1: huge amount of this. So what else Sandy take us on?
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Speaker 2: From that?
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Speaker 4: There's also you know, zero poverty. How do you achieve
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Speaker 4: that goal? Well, they bring everybody down to the same level.
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Speaker 4: They make everybody equally poor with things like the UBI
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Speaker 4: that they're trying to bring in universal basic income. So
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Speaker 4: in their view, it's all about equity and leveling up.
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Speaker 4: In fact, leveling up is talked about in our town councils,
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Speaker 4: it's talked about on a global basis as well, that
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Speaker 4: everything has to be equal. And this also goes back
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Speaker 4: to our Common Future, which was the bible of bringing
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Speaker 4: everything to be equal. And I just feel that it's
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Speaker 4: an unachievable thing, you know, you know at the moment,
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Speaker 4: because you know, poverty is something that you can't just
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Speaker 4: you can't just throw money at it because there's so
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Speaker 4: much corruption involved. And what they're doing is with UBI,
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Speaker 4: it's a way of making people completely reliant on state
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Speaker 4: and that's what they tested it out in cases like
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Speaker 4: I think it was Nigeria, and it impoverished people because
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Speaker 4: you have a set amount of money and a set
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Speaker 4: amount of carbon credits because all of that will be
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Speaker 4: linked to your carbon credits, and all of this is
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Speaker 4: really about control. It's not about equity.
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Speaker 1: But it's certainly not sustainable either. So okay, so we're
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Speaker 1: going to get a world full of poverty. That's something
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Speaker 1: to look forward to, not but they're also going to
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Speaker 1: end hunger. I notice tell us a bit more about
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Speaker 1: ending hunger.
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Speaker 4: Ending hunger is really about controlling the food chain, and
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Speaker 4: as I said, creating super farms. They've got it in
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Speaker 4: mind to create. If you only have to look at
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Speaker 4: the Saints Urys Fuuture Food Report, they're trying to create
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Speaker 4: these massive food super farms and get rid of farmers.
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Speaker 4: And they've even said that in the Transition the Agricultural
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Speaker 4: Transition Plan twenty twenty one to twenty twenty four, where
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Speaker 4: you can look it up online, it's absolutely it's there
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Speaker 4: in sight. They talk about, you know, twenty four seven
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Speaker 4: robotic farms, massive super farms that are run by robots,
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Speaker 4: and phasing out meat and dairy and all of that
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Speaker 4: they're saying is the way to end hunger. It's impossible,
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Speaker 4: you know, to actually envisage the way they want farms
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Speaker 4: to work. You know what could go possibly wrong when
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Speaker 4: you've got corporations running farms and people that know nothing
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Speaker 4: about nutrition and know nothing about All they know about
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Speaker 4: is money, and that's what we're looking at.
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Speaker 3: I just wanted to say it's also in the wording.
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Speaker 3: If you read the seventeen Sustainable Goals, how it's worded
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Speaker 3: in the document is very different to what they actually mean,
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Speaker 3: and that can obviously can be very confusing un as
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Speaker 3: you realize that there is this other agenda behind it,
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Speaker 3: you know, so they you know, they want heritage seeds
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Speaker 3: band and replaced by GMO seeds. You know, they want
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Speaker 3: to record all our habits and monitor everything on the
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Speaker 3: blockchain and use sense as Sandy was saying, so that
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Speaker 3: everything is you know, provides data that they can then
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Speaker 3: sell on to third parties and it's all in their
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Speaker 3: own documentation. And when there was a document that I've
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Speaker 3: pulled off the C Forty City's website and it's actually
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Speaker 3: got what the aims of meat and dairy consumption are.
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Speaker 3: They think it's achievable to get people's meat consumption down
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Speaker 3: to sixteen kilos a year well as a color or diet.
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Speaker 3: I'm doing that probably every fortnite three weeks or so.
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Speaker 3: You know, it wouldn't survive. I wouldn't last a year
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Speaker 3: if I was trying to do that. And the idea
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Speaker 3: that they are trying to support farmers and support farming
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Speaker 3: when they've got a declared goal to ultimately eradicate meat
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Speaker 3: and dairy consumption basically means get rid of livestock farming.
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Speaker 3: You know, the two don't marry. You can't say you're
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Speaker 3: supporting farming when you've got an agenda to stop meet
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Speaker 3: and dairy consumption by the public. It just doesn't fit together.
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Speaker 3: And so all they can try and then fit to
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Speaker 3: do is sort of monoculture and plants.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, I just want to say anybody can download
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Speaker 4: this document. It's called the Future of Urban Consumption in
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Speaker 4: a one point five to Celsius World and it's the
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Speaker 4: Sea forty Cities document headline report Now Sea forty Cities,
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Speaker 4: as what was said, they've even put together this planetary
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Speaker 4: diet which is rationing. It's basically rationing. They've got a
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Speaker 4: pie chart of all the things that are sustainable and
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Speaker 4: all things that aren't, and what you can and cannot eat,
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Speaker 4: and that really is a big if you really want
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Speaker 4: to go into the Sea forty cities. They're the ones
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Speaker 4: that are advocating the fifteen minute cities where you could
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Speaker 4: get everywhere within fifteen minutes, and it's caused mayhem in Oxford, Cambridge, Canterbury.
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Speaker 4: And you know, it's this is the way that they're
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Speaker 4: looking they're looking at at really it's making everything smaller, everything,
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Speaker 4: your life smaller, your diet smaller, and advocating rationing, which
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Speaker 4: is kind of what we're looking at at the moment.
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Speaker 1: Sandy rationing.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I agree.
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Speaker 1: I think we're already in those days, and I think
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Speaker 1: a lot of people are aware of the agenda, and
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Speaker 1: many people are stocking up on things quite quite rightly.
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Speaker 1: If a farmer is sitting at home now watching this
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Speaker 1: and the bank account is not looking very healthy and
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Speaker 1: the outlook is not looking very healthy, and all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden they get a call from someone or a
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Speaker 1: letter through the door that says, hey, you know what,
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Speaker 1: we could use your land for a soil farm or
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Speaker 1: wind turbines or something like that rather than your agriculture,
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Speaker 1: your dairy farm, whatever. What is actually happening with regards
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Speaker 1: to incentivization, Because any farmer sitting there now is going
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Speaker 1: to be thinking, well, you know, if I'm doomed, it's
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Speaker 1: probably best off that I get rid of the land
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Speaker 1: and take the money now while I can. What's your advice,
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Speaker 1: and what is the advice that's been given out to
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Speaker 1: farmers specifically at the moment.
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Speaker 4: The farmers are being de incentivized. If there's such a
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Speaker 4: word to farm. They're being told by this is all
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Speaker 4: in the Agricultural Transition Document twenty twenty one to twenty
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Speaker 4: twenty four. They've been given from twenty it was from
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty or twenty twenty one, they were given five years,
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Speaker 4: I think it was. So now it's actually by twenty
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Speaker 4: twenty seven their subsidies stop. Their subsidies stop altogether. But
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Speaker 4: until then there's subsidies will you know, are sanctioned. If
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Speaker 4: they don't, they have to stop doing any farming that
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Speaker 4: is unsustainable in the view of DEPHRA. So DEFRA have said,
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Speaker 4: you know, you can't. You have to start phasing out
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Speaker 4: you know, meat and dairy, and they're really encouraging them.
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Speaker 4: They're more than anything. They're incentivizing them to put up
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Speaker 4: wind farms, you know, solar farms, an you know, any
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Speaker 4: sort of renewable energy on their land. They get paid
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Speaker 4: extra for that. They've got to set up businesses because
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Speaker 4: they won't have their subsidies after twenty twenty seven, so
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Speaker 4: they have to set up what DEFRA has said, sustainable
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Speaker 4: businesses on your land to support yourselves basically, so it's
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Speaker 4: become a business and it's a business of not creating food.
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Speaker 4: And what's really worrying is that if you look on
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Speaker 4: the land mapping for most of the city councils or
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Speaker 4: the sorry, the county councils, if they do have a
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Speaker 4: land mapping, some don't a future land mapping they do
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Speaker 4: in North Somerset, you'll see that they're land mapping up
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Speaker 4: to I think it's twenty forty. There is no provision
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Speaker 4: for food and land mapping. It's all housing. A lot
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Speaker 4: of farms are selling that, selling up for housing. A
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Speaker 4: lot of they're going in for renewable energy, loads of
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Speaker 4: solar farms, wind farms, rewilding, herbal laise, glamping, you know,
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Speaker 4: you name it. You can do anything on your farm
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Speaker 4: except reduce food or you're incentivized. There's no food security provision,
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Speaker 4: which is which I believe is unbelievable and a lot
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Speaker 4: of people are making noise about this in their town councils.
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Speaker 4: So what we have to do is just talk to
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Speaker 4: the farmers and make them see that this is a
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Speaker 4: very short sighted view. We've got to be looking at
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Speaker 4: the long term food security of our planet and our country.
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Speaker 4: So I think that any farmers who are just selling out,
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Speaker 4: you know, they're going to you know, where's their food
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Speaker 4: going to come from? This is what you have to
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Speaker 4: ask them.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Zany, you made exactly the point I was going
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Speaker 3: to say there was. You know, farmers, if you're not
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Speaker 3: if you're not producing food in your mates down the
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Speaker 3: road aren't producing it either, you're going to go hungry
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Speaker 3: the same as we are. Because we're going to talk
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Speaker 3: about it in a bit. But you know, some of
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Speaker 3: the some of the measures which they're and aims that
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Speaker 3: they've got for shipping and and air transport and things
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Speaker 3: like that, you know, food won't be coming into the
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Speaker 3: country because if every every country in the world has
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Speaker 3: the same regime, which is what they're trying to make
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Speaker 3: it a global agenda, then you know, there isn't going
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Speaker 3: to be the movement to food across borders. And you know,
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Speaker 3: if we're not producing food in the UK, there isn't
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Speaker 3: going to be any food. And it's really as simple
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Speaker 3: as that. So I would really urge farmers to resist
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Speaker 3: the temptation and find other ways of earning money from
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Speaker 3: their food, which we are never going to talk about
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Speaker 3: and discuss later. But you know, it's a very shortsighted
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Speaker 3: view to take the money now and you know, and
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Speaker 3: then wonder where your food is going to come from
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Speaker 3: in the future.
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Speaker 1: I think this is a very valuable point, not just
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Speaker 1: for us in the UK, because I think farmers need
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Speaker 1: to be reassured that, especially those of us that are
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Speaker 1: watching this interview, our audience that know the agenda, we
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Speaker 1: really do need to support our British farmers. And this
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Speaker 1: is a global issue, right, so this is going on
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Speaker 1: in other countries, and I would say the same to
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Speaker 1: you wherever you're watching from internationally, whether you're watching in Europe,
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Speaker 1: whether you're watching in the United States or Australia, wherever
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Speaker 1: you are, please support your local farmers because they're all
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Speaker 1: in the same boat.
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Speaker 2: You know. This model is not just for the UK.
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Speaker 1: I can see some very disturbing ahead of me containing
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Speaker 1: pictures of no other than Sir Klaus Schwab and the
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Speaker 1: World's Economic Forum. I can hear everybody groaning now, but
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Speaker 1: who wants to lead us into the World Economic Forum
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Speaker 1: and the pact that was signed into nineteen which has
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Speaker 1: also got us to.
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Speaker 2: Where we are now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can do that. Yes, there was a pack
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Speaker 3: signed between the World Economic Forum and the United Nations
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Speaker 3: in June twenty nineteen. So you know, everybody thinks, so
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Speaker 3: the World Economic Forum, they has nothing to do with
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Speaker 3: governments and all the rest of it. They absolutely are.
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Speaker 3: They have got influence throughout governments throughout the world. And
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Speaker 3: Klaus Schwab, who is the head of the World Economic Forum,
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Speaker 3: has even boasted on video saying how he has captured
20:51
Speaker 3: governments and got half at the time he had half
20:54
Speaker 3: of the cabinet of Canada had been through his Young
20:58
Speaker 3: Global Leaders program. And so the idea that governments are
21:03
Speaker 3: actually working for us, I think we need to forget
21:06
Speaker 3: that they should be working for us. They aren't in
21:09
Speaker 3: power as they like to call it. They're in office,
21:11
Speaker 3: and there's a very big distinction between power and office,
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Speaker 3: and they're in office and they should be working for us.
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Speaker 3: But when it boils down to it, they're working for
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Speaker 3: these NGOs who are all being gathered together by the
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Speaker 3: World's Economic Forum, and that you know, they're putting these
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Speaker 3: global policies out and influencing government's big time. And we
21:30
Speaker 3: know Keir Starmer has already said on video that you
21:34
Speaker 3: know he prefers DeVos to Westminster. So you know, we
21:38
Speaker 3: aren't making these things up Sandy and I have done
21:41
Speaker 3: lots of research into this and we're trying to make
21:44
Speaker 3: sure that what we present today we can back it
21:46
Speaker 3: up with documents and that there are videos to back
21:50
Speaker 3: up what we're saying in terms of this is their
21:52
Speaker 3: own words. These aren't our words and our interpretations. These
21:56
Speaker 3: are their words.
21:57
Speaker 4: This pact that they signed, it's called the UN Forum
22:00
Speaker 4: Partnership Strategic Partnership Document, and I mean it's important that
22:06
Speaker 4: farmers know that this is not conspiracy theory. This is
22:09
Speaker 4: all backed up by documents and you know, sort of
22:13
Speaker 4: events that really did happen. We have to get away
22:17
Speaker 4: from the fact that it's conspiracy, and I think that's
22:19
Speaker 4: what's holding the farmers back from understanding a lot of this.
22:22
Speaker 4: So this is why we're here really. But the Forum
22:25
Speaker 4: Partnership it was signed between Antonio Guterres, who was the
22:31
Speaker 4: General Secretary of the Stillers of the UN in twenty nineteen.
22:38
Speaker 4: It was signed between him and Klaus Schwab of the
22:40
Speaker 4: World Economic Forum, and it was to they decided that
22:46
Speaker 4: they had to accelerate the seventeen goals. Yet again, it
22:49
Speaker 4: wasn't moving fast enough for them. They've got real they've
22:52
Speaker 4: got to pull this off by twenty thirty. So they're
22:56
Speaker 4: going for it. And so what they did was they
23:00
Speaker 4: held this meeting in the United Nations headquarters between between
23:05
Speaker 4: these two, you know, between the World Economic Forum and
23:08
Speaker 4: the UN and the partnership identifies six areas of focus
23:15
Speaker 4: that they wanted to really accelerate, and it was financing
23:19
Speaker 4: of twenty thirty. How do they finance the twenty thirty agenda?
23:23
Speaker 4: Climate change? Health? Now, this is the one that really
23:26
Speaker 4: stuck in my mind. Digital cooperation and gender equality and
23:32
Speaker 4: empowerment of women, education skills to strengthen and broaden their
23:37
Speaker 4: combined impact by building an existing and new collaboration. They
23:43
Speaker 4: wanted health support, well being for all countries and all
23:47
Speaker 4: that kind of thing. And what happened really is that
23:52
Speaker 4: they got their digital cooperation because they say digital corporation
23:56
Speaker 4: meets the needs of the Fourth Industrial Revolution while seeking
24:00
Speaker 4: to advanced global analysis and inclusiveness. So they needed to
24:05
Speaker 4: get digital cooperation completely, get the people to buy into
24:10
Speaker 4: digital cooperation. So the story goes on.
24:15
Speaker 3: Obviously, when COVID came along, it became the opportunity to
24:20
Speaker 3: As Claus Schwab said, the pandemic presents a rare but
24:23
Speaker 3: narrow window opportunity to reflect, reimagine and reset our world.
24:27
Speaker 3: And so, as Sandy was saying that they're trying to
24:29
Speaker 3: push this forward fast now because it's sort of gone
24:34
Speaker 3: from being conversations behind the scenes that very few people
24:37
Speaker 3: knew about to the point where we are actually now
24:40
Speaker 3: starting to see some of the changes and see some
24:43
Speaker 3: of what they're trying to impose on us. And so
24:47
Speaker 3: COVID was used as a way to do that, and
24:50
Speaker 3: I think the clearest example of that was when we
24:53
Speaker 3: were all in lockdown, they were still putting up the
24:55
Speaker 3: infrastructure for five G, for all the digital surveillance and
24:58
Speaker 3: all the rest of it. So you know, it is
25:01
Speaker 3: coming out in the open, and they are trying to
25:04
Speaker 3: push things forward because I think they think if they
25:07
Speaker 3: can get it to a certain stage, it'll be phato
25:09
Speaker 3: complee and by the time enough people wake up and
25:12
Speaker 3: start to object, they will already have their control. And
25:16
Speaker 3: you know, I do feel that some of the coming
25:20
Speaker 3: food shortages, which I know are going to happen, will
25:23
Speaker 3: be potentially used, as Debbie has already inferred, you know,
25:27
Speaker 3: if we end up with food rationing that requires identification,
25:32
Speaker 3: and obviously during the Second World War, everybody had their
25:35
Speaker 3: little paper passports to to go and go and collect
25:40
Speaker 3: their rations for the local shops. But when it comes
25:43
Speaker 3: to now, they're going to use this as a leverage
25:46
Speaker 3: to bring in digital identity and you won't be allowed
25:48
Speaker 3: to collect your food unless you're on the digital platform.
25:51
Speaker 3: And then that means we're all subjected to the potential
25:54
Speaker 3: of being socially scored in the future. So you know,
25:57
Speaker 3: this is all being pushed forward very much more quick
26:00
Speaker 3: clean now and it is coming more and more into
26:02
Speaker 3: the open because they have to, because they've they've got
26:05
Speaker 3: to impose it on us. You know, Clash Schwab wrote
26:08
Speaker 3: his book The Great Reset and the Fourth Industrial Revolution,
26:12
Speaker 3: the two books, so you know, if you really want
26:14
Speaker 3: to understand that they've written it all down or Clash
26:19
Speaker 3: weob has and it's very dystopian, which reflects his background
26:25
Speaker 3: political influences with Malt, Sitong and all sorts.
26:30
Speaker 4: As Roger said, you know, during the lockdowns, this digital
26:33
Speaker 4: corporation was forced upon us whilst we were literally sleeping.
26:36
Speaker 4: We were in lockdown, and all the infrastructure went in
26:40
Speaker 4: as Roger said, and the fifteen minute cities were implemented
26:43
Speaker 4: during you know, all the infrastructure went in for those
26:46
Speaker 4: as well. Let's not forget that that was really trying
26:49
Speaker 4: to just push almost a smart city agenda onto us.
26:52
Speaker 4: But you know, big cities just locking them down what
26:56
Speaker 4: they're doing right now, and this was a prime example
26:59
Speaker 4: of it. The Digital operation was a start of the
27:02
Speaker 4: ten year transition that Klaus Schwab had also said in
27:06
Speaker 4: his book, from our normal price based sort of free
27:11
Speaker 4: market shareholder capitalism to stakeholder capitalism. It's a way of
27:18
Speaker 4: corporations holding all the power instead of the people holding
27:23
Speaker 4: the power. It's a corporate takeover. It's an oligarchy, is
27:27
Speaker 4: what Klaus Schwab's talking about. In the Fourth Industrial Revolution.
27:31
Speaker 1: It's almost as though we're talking about the weaponization of nature.
27:35
Speaker 2: And the most.
27:36
Speaker 3: Exactly what Sandy is describing there this partnership between government
27:41
Speaker 3: and corporations that stakeholder capitalism. Mussolini described that as the
27:46
Speaker 3: definition of Nazism, which is where corporate and government take hold,
27:51
Speaker 3: and that's the whole thing. Stakeholder means those who are
27:54
Speaker 3: actually involved in those industries, so they will have dictect
27:58
Speaker 3: to the people who who use those services and products
28:04
Speaker 3: rather than the consumer. Sort of demanding and dictating which
28:10
Speaker 3: direction we go in because we are the people and
28:12
Speaker 3: we're supposed to be in power. So you know, it's
28:15
Speaker 3: Nazism by its old name, but they're calling its stakeholder
28:18
Speaker 3: capitalism to try and wrap it up and make it
28:21
Speaker 3: sound something a little bit more advanced than that. But
28:24
Speaker 3: you know, and we know that there's also the UN
28:27
Speaker 3: Charter one nine, which makes provision for the United Nations
28:32
Speaker 3: to be revised and replaced, and this was supposed to
28:34
Speaker 3: happen in nineteen fifty nine, but it never actually happened,
28:37
Speaker 3: but they're trying to move it forward now and in
28:40
Speaker 3: the same way that the United Nations have replaced the
28:43
Speaker 3: League of Nations in nineteen forty five. They're calling it
28:46
Speaker 3: United Nations two point nor. But they're also talking about
28:48
Speaker 3: being a new global government, so that it would be
28:51
Speaker 3: a new way of the United Nations effectively taking over
28:56
Speaker 3: our governance totally, and that there was actually a conference
29:00
Speaker 3: Pennsylvan I think for twenty twenty six, but they said
29:02
Speaker 3: they definitely want it by twenty thirty. So you know,
29:05
Speaker 3: these agendas are absolutely real and we're obviously getting close
29:10
Speaker 3: to these dates where you know, a few years ago
29:12
Speaker 3: it's ended like a long way away, but actually they're
29:15
Speaker 3: not very far away now. And this is why people
29:18
Speaker 3: need to be aware and to start to sort of
29:20
Speaker 3: realize what's going on so that we can object.
29:23
Speaker 1: Now, just going back to when you're mentioning the Great
29:27
Speaker 1: Reset and the Fourth Industrial Revolution, the books, I would
29:30
Speaker 1: say to anybody that hasn't read them, they are quite shocking.
29:34
Speaker 1: I mean, it is the plan, it's the blueprint almost
29:37
Speaker 1: that it's in your face. But I want to remind
29:40
Speaker 1: everyone as well that Klaus Schwab was knighted by.
29:44
Speaker 2: The now King Charles.
29:46
Speaker 1: And whilst many think that it was Klaus Schwab that
29:49
Speaker 1: announced the Great Reset at the World Economic Forum, actually
29:53
Speaker 1: it was Prince Charles when he was Prince Charles. So
29:56
Speaker 1: I just wanted to throw that in. But I mean,
30:00
Speaker 1: this is a big this is big money here. This
30:03
Speaker 1: is a big financial game for those in control, Roger,
30:08
Speaker 1: do you want to take us into the financial.
30:11
Speaker 4: Side of it.
30:13
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty three, they put together a new financial
30:16
Speaker 3: instrument was created by the Securities and Exchange Commission, the
30:19
Speaker 3: sec at New York Stock Exchange. So they're looking to
30:24
Speaker 3: monetize everything. I mean, there's even I think there's a
30:28
Speaker 3: website where they talk about, you know, using trees and
30:32
Speaker 3: everything within nature and giving you some monetary value which
30:36
Speaker 3: countries can then effectively use to underpin in the same
30:41
Speaker 3: way that golds used to underpin currency. They're looking to
30:44
Speaker 3: use nature now to underpin currency and keep their Ponzi
30:47
Speaker 3: scheme going from that point of view and the new
30:50
Speaker 3: digital currency, so yeah, you know they're trying to maneuver
30:55
Speaker 3: and use you know, art what effectively are the people's
30:59
Speaker 3: asset because everybody the world belongs to us all. You know,
31:03
Speaker 3: they're trying to use that to to control themselves and
31:08
Speaker 3: to back up governments and to use that to impose
31:12
Speaker 3: taxes and whatever else. Ione who I think there was
31:15
Speaker 3: even a video of somebody of World Economic Forum, So
31:18
Speaker 3: you know, people need to stop thinking of oxygen being free.
31:23
Speaker 3: So you know, it's got to the point where you know,
31:26
Speaker 3: you'll have to pay a tax in order to breathe.
31:28
Speaker 3: But I mean how they're going to enforce that is
31:31
Speaker 3: beggars belief. Maybe that's where the medical aided assisted dying
31:35
Speaker 3: comes in, but it's you know, it's it's it's got
31:40
Speaker 3: it's so ridiculous. It sounds so outlandish that people don't
31:43
Speaker 3: think this is what they're planning, but it is. You know,
31:46
Speaker 3: they are on video of saying these things, so it
31:49
Speaker 3: is absolutely coming down the track. And as we say
31:52
Speaker 3: anything differently.
31:53
Speaker 4: Absolutely just to just to sort of endorse what what
31:56
Speaker 4: Roger has just said, you know that did create this
32:01
Speaker 4: financial instrument by the Securities and Exchange Commission at the
32:06
Speaker 4: request of the New York Stock Exchange, and it's called
32:09
Speaker 4: these financial instruments called natural eesset companies, natural asset classes,
32:15
Speaker 4: natural asset corporations, and they're based on environmental stewardship. So
32:20
Speaker 4: really it's about the stewardship, and the nacs hold the
32:24
Speaker 4: rights to ecological performance, so you're almost given stewardship of
32:30
Speaker 4: your land. You don't. You can own it, but you
32:33
Speaker 4: can't control it because you have to be checked up
32:36
Speaker 4: on basically to make sure that you're sustainable. And these
32:40
Speaker 4: companies given license to control lands both public and private,
32:44
Speaker 4: that would be required to block any unsustainable activities such
32:49
Speaker 4: as meat production or dairy farming that lead to the
32:52
Speaker 4: degradation of ecosystems in their view. So you know, basically,
32:59
Speaker 4: how do you how do you make you take control
33:02
Speaker 4: of land? And make it profitable while not owning it. Well,
33:05
Speaker 4: they use this ecolo logical performance such as nature conservation,
33:09
Speaker 4: restoration or sustainable management. So the nacs and natural asset
33:14
Speaker 4: companies would quantify and monetizing natural outputs using a system,
33:19
Speaker 4: and it's all the farmers are having to comply to
33:21
Speaker 4: this biodiversity net gain or if they don't, now they
33:24
Speaker 4: will do. And biodiversity net gain is the financial instrument
33:28
Speaker 4: that's used as a scoring system. It's a bit like
33:31
Speaker 4: esg's or environmental and social governance contracts in businesses. So
33:37
Speaker 4: they will be scored. And so these natural assets that
33:40
Speaker 4: would normally profit the farmers and the landowners would now
33:43
Speaker 4: belong to corporations run by what many would call environmental
33:48
Speaker 4: special interests. So that's it. You own your land, you
33:52
Speaker 4: don't control it, you don't profit from it.
33:55
Speaker 1: Basically, they're going to stop you pretty much doing everything,
33:58
Speaker 1: which is what World Economic Forums said in the first place,
34:01
Speaker 1: you will own nothing. We go back to that, and
34:05
Speaker 1: you know we're as we're speaking now, I've just seen
34:08
Speaker 1: an announcement come through to say that President Trump, who
34:11
Speaker 1: has as we're speaking, hasn't yet been inaugurated, but will
34:15
Speaker 1: be attending Davos this year, which is interesting, don't you think.
34:20
Speaker 1: But you know, all of this is going to lead
34:24
Speaker 1: to well, I mean, they're going to kill us through
34:27
Speaker 1: starvation by the sound of it, because you know, I'm
34:31
Speaker 1: seeing a very stark headline on your next slide which
34:36
Speaker 1: says the coming food catastrophe. And this is not just
34:40
Speaker 1: to farmers, you know, I know that we're doing these
34:43
Speaker 1: presentations for farmers, but we're also doing it for you,
34:46
Speaker 1: for the public, because unless we get the food, we
34:49
Speaker 1: can't eat. So take us through what kind of catastrophe?
34:53
Speaker 1: I mean, is this as bad as it looks?
34:55
Speaker 4: Well, yes, I mean farmers are saying that we're heading
34:58
Speaker 4: for a massive food shortage world wide. Uh. This will
35:01
Speaker 4: be blamed obviously on climate change. That's what they that's
35:04
Speaker 4: what they do. You've got you know, wars, You've got
35:07
Speaker 4: Ukraine and Gaza all threatening food food supply chains internationally.
35:14
Speaker 4: With net zero policies preventing farmers from farming food, we
35:18
Speaker 4: have a perfect storm for some kind of you know,
35:21
Speaker 4: sort of famine if you like, if we don't do
35:24
Speaker 4: something about it, and that the farmers have the power
35:27
Speaker 4: in order, you know, if they're fully informed to avert this,
35:31
Speaker 4: I believe anyway. Uh And the budget change of the
35:35
Speaker 4: inheritance tax was not a miscalculation. It's all part of
35:39
Speaker 4: the deliberate attack on UK farming and small businesses in
35:43
Speaker 4: step with global plans. Government governments are following the u
35:46
Speaker 4: n w e F agenda and don't work for the
35:50
Speaker 4: UK public. You know, they're not working for us. They're
35:55
Speaker 4: taking their orders from from the w e F and
35:58
Speaker 4: the United Nations.
35:59
Speaker 1: And fortunately you quite clearly showing you know that in
36:04
Speaker 1: a slide that you have here to say that twenty
36:06
Speaker 1: twenty three twenty twenty four was worst crop failure since
36:10
Speaker 1: World War Two in the UK. And of course war
36:13
Speaker 1: brings disruption for every single service and provision. You can
36:19
Speaker 1: think not just destruction to land and crops and farms
36:24
Speaker 1: and buildings and people, but to food supplies and transportation
36:29
Speaker 1: and to delivery as well.
36:31
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, where is.
36:34
Speaker 1: This leading because we know that moving forward, we're looking
36:38
Speaker 1: at electric vehicles, we're looking at they don't want us
36:41
Speaker 1: to travel anywhere they don't want to. I know that
36:44
Speaker 1: you've been looking very carefully at the Absolute zero report,
36:47
Speaker 1: and many of our viewers will know about Absolute zero
36:51
Speaker 1: but can you talk about that a little bit as well,
36:53
Speaker 1: because I think that plays into the whole that the
36:55
Speaker 1: whole scheme and agenda moving forward.
36:59
Speaker 4: Yes, absolute zero. It's called the UK Fires Absolute Zero Report.
37:04
Speaker 4: You can look at it online. It's still there. Just
37:07
Speaker 4: type in it must be UK Fires Absolute zero and
37:11
Speaker 4: it comes up. Now, this document was produced and commissioned
37:15
Speaker 4: by the UK government and they commissioned it in I
37:18
Speaker 4: think it was twenty nineteen or twenty yeah, something like that. Anyway,
37:23
Speaker 4: it was. It was commissioned by the UK government through
37:29
Speaker 4: top universities like Oxford and Cambridge as a white paper.
37:33
Speaker 4: Really and how could we achieve absolute zero? No, forget
37:38
Speaker 4: net zero, how do we get to absolute zero carbon
37:42
Speaker 4: CO two in the atmosphere, which you know, as you
37:45
Speaker 4: and I know, would create things, wouldn't live, you know.
37:50
Speaker 4: Zero CO two is zero life basically. So, But Julie,
37:56
Speaker 4: they came up with this report and I think what's
37:58
Speaker 4: interesting is, I think page four of this report, if
38:01
Speaker 4: you do do have a look at it, they've got
38:04
Speaker 4: a very colorful, color coded roadmap really to twenty fifty
38:11
Speaker 4: to twenty fifty from twenty twenty to twenty twenty nine,
38:15
Speaker 4: which is from now or from twenty twenty to you know,
38:20
Speaker 4: twenty thirty, they've got a ten year window and then
38:24
Speaker 4: it goes on from there for twenty thirty to twenty
38:26
Speaker 4: forty and then obviously twenty fifty is when you hit
38:30
Speaker 4: absolute zero. So we've got net zero until twenty forty nine. Basically,
38:36
Speaker 4: it says in this air travel and shipping to be
38:38
Speaker 4: phased out between twenty thirty and twenty forty nine. So
38:43
Speaker 4: how do we get food imports? I mean, it's like
38:45
Speaker 4: being a prison island because they're also shipping and flying.
38:51
Speaker 4: By twenty forty nine they want to stop it. Fossil
38:54
Speaker 4: fuse to be phased out. You know, how would farm
38:58
Speaker 4: machinery operate as evs are toe impractical? What's the point?
39:02
Speaker 4: No bee for lamb production after twenty forty nine, No
39:05
Speaker 4: wood burning stoves, no gas boilers, no gas appliances, and
39:10
Speaker 4: we already know that they're trying to phase out gas
39:13
Speaker 4: and wood burning stoves at the moment, so and putting
39:19
Speaker 4: in things that are inefficient like ground ground source heat pumps,
39:24
Speaker 4: things like that, appliances with with you know, everything restricted
39:29
Speaker 4: to electric and the size reduction to be cut for
39:34
Speaker 4: the power requirement transport an energy to be cut by
39:39
Speaker 4: sixty percent, how will food be moved around the country,
39:43
Speaker 4: Construction all concrete and watar to be phased out, and
39:47
Speaker 4: retrofitting of all houses to comply with net zero regulation.
39:51
Speaker 4: So all of this is a perfect storm for all
39:53
Speaker 4: of us literally living in poverty A and B not
39:59
Speaker 4: having food. You know, the food distribution would break down
40:03
Speaker 4: if we got too absolute zero. So that's my take
40:08
Speaker 4: on it. Do look up that document. Absolutely, it's cooled.
40:11
Speaker 4: I mean I think I had this on my website
40:13
Speaker 4: in twenty fourteen. It was twenty fifteen, so it was
40:18
Speaker 4: a big it's a big document, but it's worth going
40:23
Speaker 4: through it. And certainly even if you can't go through it,
40:26
Speaker 4: look at page four, which is the roadmap to twenty fifty.
40:30
Speaker 3: It's quite interesting, isn't it. How some of what's been
40:34
Speaker 3: announced very recently in Parliament is also feeding into this,
40:38
Speaker 3: because we've had gearst Armers saying he wants the UK
40:41
Speaker 3: to be the center of AI, and yet I know
40:44
Speaker 3: that both Google and Amazon have said in the United
40:49
Speaker 3: States they need to build four plus nuclear power station.
40:53
Speaker 3: It's just to power their AI future. And so you know,
40:59
Speaker 3: if they trying to stop us over here from from
41:02
Speaker 3: from from having gas power and trying to be reliant
41:07
Speaker 3: on wind and solar with no fossil fuels. I mean,
41:12
Speaker 3: what's going to happen is is the electricity just going
41:15
Speaker 3: to go into AI in the U K. And then
41:17
Speaker 3: the people won't have any will have blackouts at home.
41:21
Speaker 3: You know, there's only a finite amount of electricity that
41:25
Speaker 3: can be produced, and then the whole thing is absolutely
41:29
Speaker 3: completely unsustainable. And some man who was saying, you know,
41:32
Speaker 3: this is this is a global plan. So when they're
41:34
Speaker 3: saying no airshipping and travel for us, this this actually
41:38
Speaker 3: applies to all these others, all these other countries as well.
41:42
Speaker 3: I mean, it's is it is quite quite unbelievable. How
41:47
Speaker 3: how this has even thought this is this is even possible.
41:51
Speaker 1: It's not only unbelievable, I don't think I think it's
41:55
Speaker 1: completely unsustainable, you know. And just add before we go
42:01
Speaker 1: on to my next favorite subject, flooding, because I'm looking
42:05
Speaker 1: at the clock and I'm thinking, you know what, we
42:06
Speaker 1: might even have to go to a part three, but
42:08
Speaker 1: I really do want to get to Roger's latest announcement
42:13
Speaker 1: about Bovia, So hold on tight because I promise that
42:15
Speaker 1: will be included in this interview. But I just want
42:19
Speaker 1: to remind people that it's just been announced. Remember the
42:22
Speaker 1: Nudge unit nudging you into doing things, Well, they've just
42:27
Speaker 1: been recontracted to nudge you into having heat pumps. And
42:31
Speaker 1: as Sandy's just said, number one, they're incredibly expensive. For
42:36
Speaker 1: some houses, you're going to have to have your whole
42:38
Speaker 1: central heating system ripped out and replaced, or you can
42:42
Speaker 1: have a hybrid, but whatever, it's going to be a
42:45
Speaker 1: massive cost, up to twenty pounds. So the Nudge Unit
42:49
Speaker 1: have been employed to nudge you, incentivize you into having
42:54
Speaker 1: a system that is not only inefficient, that it's going
42:57
Speaker 1: to cost you an absolute fortune. So just to add
43:01
Speaker 1: that on the Nudge unit and heat pumps, because that's
43:04
Speaker 1: the next big thing coming up, along with carbon credits
43:07
Speaker 1: of course. So let's go to my favorite subject, which
43:10
Speaker 1: is floods. Because we were talking earlier and in my
43:12
Speaker 1: introduction I was saying, and our love, thought and prayers
43:16
Speaker 1: do go out to everybody that's being affected by wildfires
43:19
Speaker 1: wherever you are in the world, and of course our
43:22
Speaker 1: attention at the moment is drawn to California and you
43:27
Speaker 1: know what I'm seeing in fires in America.
43:32
Speaker 2: I see in.
43:32
Speaker 1: Europe and the UK floods, and I see no insurance
43:38
Speaker 1: conveniently for five victims. It's the same in the UK
43:42
Speaker 1: for floods. But let's look at the deliberate destruction of
43:46
Speaker 1: land using floods. Sandy take us from there.
43:51
Speaker 4: It's interesting because I was living in Somerset in twenty
43:56
Speaker 4: fourteen and sixty five square miles of Somerset were underwater.
44:01
Speaker 4: It was the worst spring rainfall that they had had
44:04
Speaker 4: in many, many years, and banks of the river Brew,
44:08
Speaker 4: the Parrot, and the Tone had burst their banks and
44:11
Speaker 4: people were literally in terrible trouble. They were having to
44:16
Speaker 4: evacuate their houses and it was really really bad. And
44:20
Speaker 4: a few of us went down to help with the sandbagging.
44:23
Speaker 4: And what was interesting is that there was no help
44:27
Speaker 4: from the government, the Environment Agency, or the army, the
44:32
Speaker 4: Navy or anything. The only people that had come to
44:36
Speaker 4: help the people of Somerset were there was an aid
44:41
Speaker 4: organization called CALCER, their International seekh Aid organization, and they'd
44:45
Speaker 4: flown in from the Haiti earthquake to help the people
44:48
Speaker 4: of Somerset. Because the people of Somerset, the locals got
44:51
Speaker 4: in touch with them and that the whole operation was
44:54
Speaker 4: run by the local pub, village hall and this amazing
44:58
Speaker 4: organization seek organizing. And I thought this was very, very
45:03
Speaker 4: odd because we were all doing our best, but there
45:05
Speaker 4: was no one to be seen. And sure enough, all
45:09
Speaker 4: the all the the media were gathering on the bridge, watching,
45:13
Speaker 4: watching everything rise, and nobody did anything. And it took
45:18
Speaker 4: a It took days and days for the army to arrive,
45:21
Speaker 4: and basically they spent an hour doing what I would
45:24
Speaker 4: call a photo shoot, passing the bags to each other,
45:27
Speaker 4: and then they went. And then Prince Charles arrived and
45:31
Speaker 4: he was taken down the banks of the river parrot
45:34
Speaker 4: on a wooden throne, and he was saying something must
45:37
Speaker 4: be done, and he went off and the Environment Agency
45:41
Speaker 4: were nowhere. But what really made me wake up to
45:46
Speaker 4: what was happening is a lot of the locals were saying,
45:48
Speaker 4: and also a journalist down there said to me, you know,
45:52
Speaker 4: this is deliberate because they've stopped the pumping stations, that
45:55
Speaker 4: they haven't dredged the RNs for decades since the Environment
45:59
Speaker 4: Agency got you know, were put in charge, nothing has
46:02
Speaker 4: been done to maintain the ability for that the natural
46:07
Speaker 4: drainage you know, that had gone on, you know, all
46:10
Speaker 4: the infrastructure to drain the levels had been decommissioned. Basically,
46:14
Speaker 4: they just let everything silt up. One of the journalists,
46:18
Speaker 4: who was a fantastic local Pristopher Booker, said to me,
46:22
Speaker 4: this is Agenda twenty one and I said, well, I'm
46:24
Speaker 4: looking at all that because this was in my early
46:25
Speaker 4: days of research, and I you know, he said, look
46:29
Speaker 4: at policy six of the Environment Agency. And I later
46:32
Speaker 4: learned that that area where Policy six had been implemented
46:36
Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety seven by Baroness Young, was actually the
46:40
Speaker 4: area that was designated as a flood plane for with EA,
46:47
Speaker 4: you know, with Environment Agency Policy six by Baroness Young
46:50
Speaker 4: to for biodiversity for wading birds to be deliberately flooded
46:57
Speaker 4: for wading birds and for the RSPB. And that didn't
47:02
Speaker 4: make sense to me because there's already an RSPB sort
47:06
Speaker 4: of bird sanctuary just down the road. So this was
47:09
Speaker 4: all part of literally reclaiming land, you know, a land
47:14
Speaker 4: grab and getting rid of livestock. Is all the livestock
47:17
Speaker 4: had had to go. They were all flooded out. And
47:20
Speaker 4: what's interesting is, you know, if one looks at policy six,
47:24
Speaker 4: you can see that the pink area on the policy
47:27
Speaker 4: map is exactly the area that flooded at that time,
47:32
Speaker 4: and they're kind of doing it again at the moment.
47:35
Speaker 4: We're getting consultations all along the coastline, particularly where I
47:40
Speaker 4: live in Somerset, saying, you know, the levels will flood
47:44
Speaker 4: now due to climate change and sea level rise. And
47:48
Speaker 4: so what we're finding is that they're holding all these
47:50
Speaker 4: consultations and more or less preparing people for what they
47:55
Speaker 4: call resilience. They've got to become resilient to the flooding,
48:00
Speaker 4: like move all your iroelectrical sockets up the wall, you know,
48:04
Speaker 4: put to put everything above the you know, the flood
48:07
Speaker 4: level in your kitchen and all this. It's almost like
48:11
Speaker 4: normalizing flooding. So it's going to happen anyway, and you'll
48:14
Speaker 4: have to deal with it, you know. The fact is
48:17
Speaker 4: they're not they're not maintaining the infrastructure that was put
48:20
Speaker 4: there four hundred years ago to stop the levels from flooding.
48:24
Speaker 4: And it's for me, I'm seeing it as a way
48:27
Speaker 4: of getting rid of farmland because there's another there's another
48:31
Speaker 4: issue with the coastline right by the nuclear power station
48:36
Speaker 4: that they're building edf and the Chinese are building a
48:39
Speaker 4: big power station, and unfortunately they've said that because they're
48:45
Speaker 4: using the water to cool the reactors, the fish stops
48:49
Speaker 4: are being sucked into this process, and therefore they've got
48:53
Speaker 4: to have more sea for the fish. And they're going
48:57
Speaker 4: to re see all the the salt basically the grazing
49:01
Speaker 4: the salt marshes, which is where the cattle go to
49:04
Speaker 4: just graze the salt from certain periods of a year
49:07
Speaker 4: and then they move on to the grassland. But they
49:09
Speaker 4: want to take away a whole load of farmland and
49:12
Speaker 4: turn it into sea, which is madness. Why can't they
49:16
Speaker 4: put a filter to stop the fish going into the reactors.
49:19
Speaker 4: I don't understand it, but all I know is it's
49:22
Speaker 4: another way of getting rid of farmland.
49:25
Speaker 1: Well, I'm taking a big deep breath because and we
49:29
Speaker 1: are going to get to the future of food. I'm
49:31
Speaker 1: going to go to the future of food Roger to
49:33
Speaker 1: you next. But before I do, I have to say
49:37
Speaker 1: that Prince Charles was doing a lot in his reign because.
49:41
Speaker 2: He came to me as well. I met him when
49:44
Speaker 2: he came.
49:44
Speaker 1: To my area when my area flooded and as a
49:49
Speaker 1: repeated flooded victim of one hundred and two times.
49:52
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, that's right, one hundred and two times.
49:55
Speaker 1: I can tell you that what's happening to you is
49:59
Speaker 1: happening to communities all over the country, including my own,
50:03
Speaker 1: and a lot of it is because there's been no
50:05
Speaker 1: investment into the water infrastructure, not just the environmental the
50:11
Speaker 1: environment agencies pumps and their infrastructure, but also water company infrastructure.
50:17
Speaker 1: And what we've been getting is that water companies aren't
50:21
Speaker 1: statutory planning consultees, so they have no say in whether
50:25
Speaker 1: a housing development goes on. Is anybody checking that the
50:28
Speaker 1: infrastructure that is being plummed into that housing development can cope?
50:33
Speaker 1: The answer is no, So what we're getting is an overwhelm.
50:36
Speaker 1: We're getting private companies performing public duties and we're getting
50:42
Speaker 1: we're getting local authorities and water companies using homes as
50:47
Speaker 1: attenuation tanks for sewage floods and for surface water floods,
50:53
Speaker 1: and there is no legislation for.
50:54
Speaker 2: Flooding on land.
50:56
Speaker 1: The EA are the regulators for what happened and in
51:01
Speaker 1: a waterway or in the sea in coastlines, but there
51:06
Speaker 1: is no regulator for floods that happen on land. And
51:11
Speaker 1: you know, I live in an area that has a
51:14
Speaker 1: lithium mine, a desalination plant, and sewage spills all in
51:20
Speaker 1: one area, and that is not good.
51:22
Speaker 2: For the environment.
51:23
Speaker 1: It's ecoside basically, it's not good for the environment and
51:27
Speaker 1: it's certainly not good for humans to live in. So
51:32
Speaker 1: I had to say that because the future is water.
51:36
Speaker 1: We all need water to live and water is now
51:41
Speaker 1: questionable and how badly contaminated is our water? So you know, floods,
51:46
Speaker 1: engineered floods. I'm with you one hundred percent. So yeah,
51:50
Speaker 1: and I am mindful now that you know, we're literally
51:54
Speaker 1: out of time, and I've made all of these big
51:56
Speaker 1: promises to everybody that we're going to be talking about eggs,
51:58
Speaker 1: and we're going to be talking about mad our disease, and.
52:01
Speaker 2: We're going to have to do a part three.
52:03
Speaker 1: But I did promise you to bring you up to
52:07
Speaker 1: date with Bouvier. And before I show a video that
52:12
Speaker 1: Roger has put out on bo via, I want Roger
52:16
Speaker 1: just to very quickly remind if you could do it
52:19
Speaker 1: very quickly, Roger, just give us a quick reminder, because
52:22
Speaker 1: two weeks ago everybody was talking about ala everybody was
52:26
Speaker 1: talking about bovia.
52:28
Speaker 2: What was it? Was it safe?
52:30
Speaker 1: Can you can you introduce the video that we're about
52:34
Speaker 1: to see. It's only a short video, but could you
52:37
Speaker 1: just give us a quick introduction.
52:38
Speaker 3: Just remind people about bovert. It's it's a product that's
52:43
Speaker 3: put in cattle feed and it changes the metabola, changes
52:48
Speaker 3: what goes on in the rubin, which is part of
52:50
Speaker 3: the stomach that ferments the grass that the cattle, the
52:54
Speaker 3: cows eat, and the idea is that the cows will
52:57
Speaker 3: produce less methane because methane they think is a greenhouse gas. Okay,
53:03
Speaker 3: so I'll have put out a tweet basically saying that
53:07
Speaker 3: they were going to start or they were having a
53:10
Speaker 3: trial with thirty farms to use this beauvaire to reduce
53:14
Speaker 3: the methane, and obviously that the milk would be would
53:18
Speaker 3: be being produced by these farms. And there's quite a
53:22
Speaker 3: big uproar on Twitter, which I'm sure everybody's aware of.
53:25
Speaker 3: I was sort of concerned about it. I read some
53:28
Speaker 3: of the trials and I wasn't convinced that they'd gone
53:31
Speaker 3: on for long enough and all the rest of it.
53:33
Speaker 3: And I was also concerned that it was classified as
53:37
Speaker 3: a feed additive in the UK, although the FDA had
53:42
Speaker 3: classified it as a drug over there. So I decided
53:45
Speaker 3: to write to the Vetery Medicines Directive the VMD, but
53:48
Speaker 3: also the Chief Vettery Officer to say why hasn't beauvert
53:54
Speaker 3: been been checked and why hasn't it been classified as
53:59
Speaker 3: a Yeah, so the video gives a little bit of
54:02
Speaker 3: an explanation as to the response that I that I got.
54:06
Speaker 1: And here's that piece of video that Roger put out.
54:09
Speaker 1: Please watch and listen and share.
54:11
Speaker 3: Through an email exchange with the UK Vectory Medicine Directive
54:15
Speaker 3: VMD and Chief Freederary Officer cvo I challenged the VMD
54:21
Speaker 3: to explain why they have not categorized Bova as a
54:23
Speaker 3: vectory pharmaceutical when it has been in the USA by
54:27
Speaker 3: the FDA. VND informed me that Bover had self categorized
54:32
Speaker 3: its own product as a feed additive despite the fact
54:36
Speaker 3: that it is only authorized in the UK for use
54:38
Speaker 3: in lactating dairy cows. It specifically says it is not
54:43
Speaker 3: for use in dry cows, effers, bulls or calves. If
54:48
Speaker 3: it is safe enough to be considered a feed additive,
54:50
Speaker 3: it should be universally safe for feeding to all cattle.
54:56
Speaker 3: Due to the self categorization of BOVA as a feed additive,
55:00
Speaker 3: the Food Standards Agency and Food Standards Scotland carried out
55:04
Speaker 3: the UK's official authorization process for Beauvair. There is no
55:09
Speaker 3: facility within the FSA or FSS to make a full
55:12
Speaker 3: and proper veterinary assessment of Beauvair. The CVO informed that
55:17
Speaker 3: this consequently means that no official health or welfare evaluation
55:21
Speaker 3: has been carried out in the UK with respect to
55:24
Speaker 3: Bobat's impact on the cows being feded to be fair.
55:29
Speaker 3: She raised this point herself last autumn, but still the
55:33
Speaker 3: VMD of which she is part, allowed the manufacturers to
55:36
Speaker 3: self determine that Beauvair be categorized as a feed additive
55:40
Speaker 3: and to go ahead with feeding trials in the UK.
55:44
Speaker 3: This is a complete derogation of duty by the VMD,
55:47
Speaker 3: in my opinion. The VMD defended this on the basis
55:52
Speaker 3: that thirty five other countries have also derogated their duty
55:56
Speaker 3: in not properly assessing Beauvair either. To be clear, there
56:00
Speaker 3: are no studies that have looked specifically at Beauvair's impact
56:03
Speaker 3: on fertility, metabolic disease, lameness, mastitists for any other aspect
56:09
Speaker 3: of cattle health. The longest trial used by the FSA
56:13
Speaker 3: to assess Beauvair bedets of cows for only fifteen weeks.
56:17
Speaker 3: Despite the fact that a whole lactation lasts over three
56:20
Speaker 3: hundred days and Bovaia is intended to be fed at
56:23
Speaker 3: every lactation throughout their life, there is zero information on
56:29
Speaker 3: the cumulative effect of feeding Beauvaire over a number of years.
56:34
Speaker 3: The CVO informs me that she is awaiting assessment by
56:37
Speaker 3: the uk VET Risk Group, who are currently trying to
56:40
Speaker 3: find out more information. In the words of the CVO,
56:45
Speaker 3: this may take some time. In the meantime, those dairy
56:49
Speaker 3: farmers who are already feeding Beauvair are probably blissfully unaware
56:54
Speaker 3: that no veterinary assessment has with regards to their cows
56:57
Speaker 3: health and welfare has been undertaken. They have every right
57:01
Speaker 3: to reasonably expect that such an assessment has been performed.
57:06
Speaker 3: Both should be withdrawn from use until this has been
57:09
Speaker 3: properly assessed, not only for its health and welfare impact
57:12
Speaker 3: on cattle, but to make a full and proper assessment
57:15
Speaker 3: as to whether it makes any difference to climate overall,
57:19
Speaker 3: on the basis that it has now been proven that
57:22
Speaker 3: the Earth temperature is not determined by greenhouse gas radiation.
57:26
Speaker 3: The production of methane CO two or any other supposed
57:30
Speaker 3: greenhouse gas is immaterial. Methane and CO two have never
57:36
Speaker 3: been a problem and never will be a problem.
57:40
Speaker 1: Wow, that was very powerful. Roger, just very briefly, and
57:45
Speaker 1: we will talk more about bovir and lah in part three.
57:50
Speaker 1: Very briefly. Is there anything you want to say after
57:54
Speaker 1: watching yourself.
57:56
Speaker 3: Farmers can no longer trust that what they are being
57:59
Speaker 3: advised to feed or give to their cattle has been
58:03
Speaker 3: adequately tested. And I think we've already said in the
58:08
Speaker 3: last interview I did with you on my own that
58:11
Speaker 3: you know, the PCR test isn't suitable but for being
58:16
Speaker 3: used in a clinical situation, and yet it is for
58:19
Speaker 3: still being used for testing animals for clinical disease. So
58:26
Speaker 3: you know, farmers are going to have to start questioning
58:28
Speaker 3: everything that they're being advised to and consider whether it's
58:33
Speaker 3: in their animal's best interest to subject them to being tested,
58:38
Speaker 3: and where the products that they are being advised to
58:41
Speaker 3: use are actually being properly tested either now it seems.
58:44
Speaker 3: But I'm the big take home and the real big
58:48
Speaker 3: in climate message that I think needs to be shouted
58:52
Speaker 3: from the rooftops is that there has been a study
58:55
Speaker 3: published where it proves that there's a completely different model
59:00
Speaker 3: to explain climate temperaure planetary temperature, and it's not only
59:06
Speaker 3: works for the for our planet, planet Earth, but it
59:09
Speaker 3: also works for other planets as well. And you know,
59:12
Speaker 3: the data fits unlike the climate climate change model that's
59:17
Speaker 3: been used to push a whole net zero FIESCO is
59:21
Speaker 3: based on models that don't don't consider all the cycles
59:27
Speaker 3: that naturally take place, and it's based purely on the
59:32
Speaker 3: idea that there's a greenhouse gas effect. Well, you know,
59:36
Speaker 3: given that that paper, recent paper, and there's a great
59:39
Speaker 3: video on YouTube and it's called Beyond the greenhouse Gas
59:45
Speaker 3: or beyond greenhouse Effect. Might urge everybody to watch it. It's
59:49
Speaker 3: quite long, but it's worth watching, but it you know,
59:52
Speaker 3: it does explain that there is a different model that
59:55
Speaker 3: fits the data much better. And on that basis, anything
59:59
Speaker 3: that's been pushed through on the back of net zero
1:00:02
Speaker 3: has absolutely no no vindication whatsoever as far as I'm concerned. So,
1:00:08
Speaker 3: you know, this is where we need to sort of
1:00:10
Speaker 3: stand up. And you know, and I've verged the Chief
1:00:13
Speaker 3: Vectory Officer and the VMD say why haven't senior groups,
1:00:18
Speaker 3: including them within the vetory profession, Why aren't we standing
1:00:22
Speaker 3: up and saying, you know, for the cattle, for livestock
1:00:25
Speaker 3: farming and all the rest of it. On the basis
1:00:28
Speaker 3: of this alone, it's enough that we don't need to
1:00:32
Speaker 3: be pushing these measures on our farmers. And the land
1:00:36
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be sacrificed. You know, we've got little enough,
1:00:39
Speaker 3: really fertile and a lot of land that's farmed in
1:00:41
Speaker 3: the UK is quite marginal and it's only fit for pasture.
1:00:45
Speaker 3: And so you know, we don't we need this land
1:00:48
Speaker 3: for food, we don't need it for energy. That we're
1:00:53
Speaker 3: not under the same pressure that they're trying to make
1:00:55
Speaker 3: out that we are. So let's let's find other technologies
1:00:59
Speaker 3: that don't take up our food and I we go
1:01:02
Speaker 3: to farmers to resist on that basis as well.
1:01:06
Speaker 1: And resist is the big message. If you like what
1:01:11
Speaker 1: the UK column is doing and you feel that you've
1:01:15
Speaker 1: gained from this interview, which I'm pretty sure you will
1:01:19
Speaker 1: have done, please share our content.
1:01:21
Speaker 2: Please tell people.
1:01:22
Speaker 1: That we exist and that this information really needs to
1:01:26
Speaker 1: go to everybody, to farmers, to members of the public.
1:01:30
Speaker 1: Do you see it now? This isn't just an inheritance
1:01:33
Speaker 1: tax agenda. This is a much more dangerous dark agenda.
1:01:37
Speaker 1: And British farmers listening, We need you, we support you,
1:01:42
Speaker 1: and please please hear what we're saying. Because this research
1:01:48
Speaker 1: has taken years. Everything is evidence. And I'd like to
1:01:51
Speaker 1: thank you both, Roger and Sandy very much for all
1:01:54
Speaker 1: as amazing hard work and passion that you put into this,
1:01:59
Speaker 1: for all the right and on that note, I will
1:02:02
Speaker 1: promise everyone there will be a part three if you're
1:02:04
Speaker 1: both in agreeance. And first of all, I'm going to
1:02:07
Speaker 1: hand over to Roger for as always your last word.
1:02:11
Speaker 3: Thank you, Roger, Thanks DEBI. I'll make it short after
1:02:14
Speaker 3: the last one, just to reiterate what I've just said.
1:02:17
Speaker 3: You know, resist, resist, resist, you know we don't need
1:02:21
Speaker 3: to go down this agenda, and you know, provided we
1:02:24
Speaker 3: all do stand up, I do think it's going to
1:02:26
Speaker 3: be positive. And you know, the good thing about that's
1:02:29
Speaker 3: come out of BOVA and the last story so far
1:02:32
Speaker 3: is that it has pushed people to find their local
1:02:35
Speaker 3: farmers and for local farms to then to start supplying
1:02:39
Speaker 3: their local people too, so you know there is positive
1:02:43
Speaker 3: coming out of this. So it might sound all a
1:02:45
Speaker 3: little bit too and glue, but there is light at
1:02:48
Speaker 3: the end of the tunnel. But we've just got to
1:02:50
Speaker 3: look to see that light and move towards it.
1:02:52
Speaker 1: And yes, you're absolutely right, every cloud does have a
1:02:55
Speaker 1: silver lining and we're all in this together. And on that,
1:03:00
Speaker 1: thank you so much for all your incredible hard work,
1:03:03
Speaker 1: and if you're open to our part three then you're
1:03:06
Speaker 1: always most welcome. We'd love you to join us for
1:03:08
Speaker 1: part three. And it's over to you for your last word.
1:03:12
Speaker 4: Thank you, Debbie, and thanks for the opportunity for us
1:03:14
Speaker 4: to get this out. Without you, we wouldn't be able
1:03:17
Speaker 4: to thank you. I think, as Roger said, it is
1:03:23
Speaker 4: about a resistance. It is about a resistance. And I
1:03:28
Speaker 4: think if farmers knew really what was facing them and
1:03:33
Speaker 4: the long term implications of what is going on, I
1:03:36
Speaker 4: think every farmer would agree that you know that things
1:03:41
Speaker 4: have to change. They can't, you know, they can't be
1:03:44
Speaker 4: pushed around like this, and you know this whole global
1:03:47
Speaker 4: governance of farming and it is a land grab. And
1:03:51
Speaker 4: if they can see it's a land grab and absolutely,
1:03:54
Speaker 4: as Roger said, the Beauvier, I call it scandal Really,
1:04:00
Speaker 4: it is a scandalous that that managed to get into
1:04:03
Speaker 4: the food chain. You know, people are beginning to look
1:04:07
Speaker 4: at the ingredients as well of stuff in supermarkets and
1:04:11
Speaker 4: realizing that they possibly need to be more aware of
1:04:14
Speaker 4: what is going into their food. I've noticed a lot
1:04:17
Speaker 4: of people looking at ingredients now and realizing that there
1:04:21
Speaker 4: are certain ingredients that aren't good for them, and the
1:04:24
Speaker 4: Bovia thing has really highlighted that. And the more awareness
1:04:27
Speaker 4: people have, the more they'll want these natural products, which
1:04:31
Speaker 4: is the way we should be going. And the farmers,
1:04:34
Speaker 4: I believe that they if they really knew this agenda
1:04:37
Speaker 4: and knew that the long term thing is going to
1:04:39
Speaker 4: affect future generations, their children, their grandchildren, their grandchildren's children, whatever,
1:04:46
Speaker 4: they wouldn't be going along with this. And we have
1:04:48
Speaker 4: to make them, you know, sort of somehow get them
1:04:50
Speaker 4: to realize that this is not a conspiracy. This is
1:04:54
Speaker 4: as a conspiracy, but it's not. It's a conspiracy on them,
1:04:59
Speaker 4: not You're the way round