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Quiet on Set, PDiddy with Nickelodeon Writer Christy Stratton · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have a great
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  Speaker 1: interview today with a friend of mine who was one
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  Speaker 1: of the female writers featured on the special about Quiet
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  Speaker 1: On Set, which everyone is talking about that docuseries. And
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  Speaker 1: I just found out that they are going to do
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  Speaker 1: another episode in April. They did this with the Playboy
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  Speaker 1: story about Hugh Hefner and all the Playboy playmates. Remember,
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  Speaker 1: there was like an eight-part docuseries on that, and then
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  Speaker 1: so much came out, and so many other women got
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  Speaker 1: word of it and saw it that they then participated
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  Speaker 1: in two other episodes that came right after the final
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  Speaker 1: one aired. So it makes me wonder if maybe some
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  Speaker 1: other people are coming forward. Hopefully they were not victims
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  Speaker 1: of anything, but maybe they have other information to add.
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  Speaker 1: So I have a great, really juicy, interesting conversation with
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  Speaker 1: Christy Stratton about that and about just being in the business, Hollywood,
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  Speaker 1: being a female writer. First, let me just do some
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  Speaker 1: breaking hot topic news. On Monday, March 25th, everybody was,
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  Speaker 1: phones were going crazy. The news was going crazy. P.
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  Speaker 1: Diddy was, both of his homes, his mansions, the one
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  Speaker 1: in Hombly Hills in L.A., and his other one in
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  Speaker 1: Florida were raided at the same time. And he was
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  Speaker 1: on a plane. I think he has two planes. But
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  Speaker 1: I just read on TMZ that according to their sources,
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  Speaker 1: he was not aware that this raid was going to
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  Speaker 1: go on, according to them. And he was in an
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  Speaker 1: airport or a private airport with his kids who are
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  Speaker 1: school-aged to go to the Bahamas and spend spring break
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  Speaker 1: with them when he got the word that his two
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  Speaker 1: homes were being raided. Two of his older sons that
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  Speaker 1: are– I don't know how old they are, but they
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  Speaker 1: were seen by the helicopter footage. They were in handcuffs
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  Speaker 1: at the L.A. property. I don't know if they are
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  Speaker 1: suspects of anything or Or if they were just doing
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  Speaker 1: that as a precaution because, you know, they were raided
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  Speaker 1: and they want to make sure that the sheriffs were safe.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really know. So there's lots going on about that. Also,
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  Speaker 1: in this $ 30 million lawsuit, they're reporting that Prince Harry is,
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  Speaker 1: in fact, named in it. Now, he's not named as
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  Speaker 1: a defendant, but he's named in the lawsuit. That's all
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  Speaker 1: we really know for now. Prince Harry was only photographed
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  Speaker 1: once that we can find back in 2007 at a
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  Speaker 1: PDD big party event. This guy, Little Rod, who is
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  Speaker 1: one of the people that's part of this lawsuit, he's
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  Speaker 1: the one that has stated that these sex trafficking parties
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  Speaker 1: and events and places where SA happened, that would be–
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  Speaker 1: there were other celebrities there. And of course, P. Diddy
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  Speaker 1: was able to pull in other celebrities and entice them
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  Speaker 1: with whatever is going on. So we will see what
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  Speaker 1: is obtained from either one of these homes. And if
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  Speaker 1: this in any way gets P. Diddy arrested or helps
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  Speaker 1: with this lawsuit, it's a lot and it's just coming in. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we'll definitely talk more about it as more
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  Speaker 1: information comes. But that was pretty crazy yesterday. Also, someone
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  Speaker 1: told me, a little follow-up on Tuesday's episode, the Ozempic
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  Speaker 1: baby episode, where I talked about how people are getting
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  Speaker 1: pregnant that couldn't get pregnant before. I just got read
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  Speaker 1: a DM from someone who said, you know, there is
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  Speaker 1: a hormone that happens in your body when you're pregnant that,
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  Speaker 1: for people that struggle with weight, is missing. So that's
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  Speaker 1: why sometimes when this particular Juicy Scooper when she got pregnant,
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  Speaker 1: she actually, actually like lost weight or was able to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, carry this baby without gaining more weight because
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  Speaker 1: she had the hormone. And I guess that hormone for
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  Speaker 1: people that struggle with weight gain, that you're missing that hormone.
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  Speaker 1: And that is what is in the Ozempic shots or the,
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  Speaker 1: you know, semi-glutide. And that's why it really works well
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  Speaker 1: for people that have suffered with a level of obesity.
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  Speaker 1: And for people that are just trying to lose five
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  Speaker 1: pounds or 10 pounds, it may not work and you
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  Speaker 1: may lose muscle. I thought that was kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 1: And now maybe by having that extra hormone or something,
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  Speaker 1: it's causing people to up their fertility. Very juicy. It's just,
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  Speaker 1: you know, who knows? Obviously, I'm not a medical doctor,
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  Speaker 1: but since it's a big topic of discussion, thought I
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  Speaker 1: would share that. Also, I did watch a little more
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  Speaker 1: of Buying Beverly Hills, which is Kyle's family, Kyle Richards.
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  Speaker 1: And wow, it does really get good. Episode seven, we
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  Speaker 1: see Kyle again. It gets very juicy. Unfortunately, the news
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  Speaker 1: comes out about how they were separated. And that is
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  Speaker 1: nice to see that clarity because as people that we
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  Speaker 1: only got the information from Real Houses of Beverly Hills,
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  Speaker 1: The timelines of things were confusing. It made us wonder,
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  Speaker 1: was this put out for publicity? No, it really did
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  Speaker 1: come out when they were all out there together paddleboarding
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  Speaker 1: and doing stuff with the four girls. So I really
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  Speaker 1: think that part of it is interesting. But also yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: this went kind of crazy, there was a comment that
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  Speaker 1: Kyle made under Morgan Wade's post where she said, save
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  Speaker 1: a horse, ride a cowgirl. And of course, people grabbed it.
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  Speaker 1: They put it on a photo of Morgan. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of people shared it. A lot of comments were like,
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  Speaker 1: tell me that you're jealous of your husband's reality show
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  Speaker 1: success without telling me that you're jealous of your husband's
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  Speaker 1: reality show success. Saying that she knew by writing that
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  Speaker 1: one little comment, there's so many eyes on her that
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  Speaker 1: she would you know, get people talking again. Remember me? Like, remember,
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  Speaker 1: am I gay or am I not? Am I with
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  Speaker 1: Morgan Wade? Am I not? Is this a little funny
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  Speaker 1: wee-wee happy joke or is it not? But, or is
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  Speaker 1: she doing what we've talked about with Evan? Is she
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  Speaker 1: the most selfless mother on earth? And by throwing these
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  Speaker 1: little fun things with people speculating between she and Morgan,
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  Speaker 1: does that get us to go turn on the Netflix
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  Speaker 1: buying Beverly Hills if we haven't watched it yet? So,
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  Speaker 1: All of that very juicy. Of course, what's really juicy
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  Speaker 1: years plus of content, hundreds and hundreds of postings that
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  Speaker 1: members that come. And now let's get into more about
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  Speaker 1: this shocking documentary and people that actually have a real
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  Speaker 1: say in it. Oh, I also want to say, Drake
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  Speaker 1: and Josh, the show in which Drake Bell was on,
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned that I was a guest star. The way
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  Speaker 1: the universe works, I can't believe it. I just got
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  Speaker 1: two checks from my episode of Drake and Josh. And...
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  Speaker 1: I think it was like principal, whatever, like guest star.
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  Speaker 1: And I was pretty excited. One check was for $ 3. 98,
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  Speaker 1: but the other check was for over $ 100, which makes
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  Speaker 1: me be like, is this going to start like airing
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  Speaker 1: more because people are going to be seeking it out
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  Speaker 1: and wanting to see these old episodes? I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but very coincidental. All right, you guys, now for the interview. Hello,
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  Speaker 1: and welcome to Juicy Scoop. You guys have been asking
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  Speaker 1: for this, and I have the writer that you got
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  Speaker 1: to see in the absolutely, such a well-done but shocking documentary,
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  Speaker 1: Quiet on Set, Christy Stratton. Welcome back to Juicy Scoop,
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  Speaker 1: because we met on Juicy Scoop like eight years ago.
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  Speaker 3: That's right. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. You know,
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  Speaker 3: with all this stuff going on, I didn't want to,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, I didn't want to participate in all
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  Speaker 3: their projects. press things, but I thought, I'll do one thing,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm going to go to my friend Heather's show
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  Speaker 3: and talk about it in my own words.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I absolutely love it, and our little background is
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  Speaker 1: you were doing a really funny webisode and it was
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  Speaker 1: getting a lot of buzz and like winning awards and
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  Speaker 1: stuff like that. And so your publicist reached out to
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  Speaker 1: me and I watched, I'm like, oh my God, hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: And Guy Branum had a part in it. That's right.
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  Speaker 1: And he made a very funny joke about dry shampoo.
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  Speaker 1: You must have written where he goes, when your dry
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  Speaker 1: shampoo looks like a Victorian powdered wig or something.
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  Speaker 3: When I said Swiftian, I meant, you know, that it
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  Speaker 3: looked like it was a powdered white wig.
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  Speaker 1: There was such a funny joke. Anyway, so, but it's
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  Speaker 1: been many years. We worked, we tried to write something together.
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  Speaker 1: But all we did was go to your house in
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  Speaker 1: Encino and order, like, salads.
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  Speaker 3: Le pain quotidien.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was about cheer moms. And we, I still
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  Speaker 3: believe in that. We did do.
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  Speaker 1: A good outline. We did. But then you called me
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  Speaker 1: and you're like, I got Modern Family. I'm on the
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  Speaker 1: writing staff of Modern Family. And I'm like, oh my God, go,
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  Speaker 1: go Little Bird. Write for the best show on TV.
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  Speaker 1: And we kept in touch a little. I saw your
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  Speaker 1: husband and son at like a carnival two years ago
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  Speaker 1: at St. Mel's Carnival. That's right. And then I was
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  Speaker 1: watching it and I mistakenly watched the only the last
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  Speaker 1: two episodes. This is a four parter. And then, um,
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  Speaker 1: my friend Brandy goes, you got to get that, this
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  Speaker 1: writer girl on your show. And I go, I go,
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  Speaker 1: I don't, I go, I remember seeing like one small
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  Speaker 1: thing and I'm like that. And she goes, no, there's
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  Speaker 1: a whole first two episodes. So before I could even
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  Speaker 1: watch it the way the universe works, you texted me.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: And I, then I said to Brandon, I go, Brandy, I,
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  Speaker 1: I know Christie, like, This is amazing.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So to fill people in, this is about, uh, Nickelodeon. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Mostly all, it was all about the Nickelodeon shows of
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  Speaker 1: the early two thousands, which includes, um, all, all that,
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  Speaker 1: which was a kid's sketch show and Amanda, the Amanda
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  Speaker 1: show with Amanda Bynes, which was like her own sketch show.
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  Speaker 1: The spinoff of that was Drake and Josh, which I
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  Speaker 1: did a small part on. Um, And so it's a
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  Speaker 1: lot about Dan Schneider who created all these shows, who
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  Speaker 1: you worked for.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: And then, of course, Drake Bell of Drake and Josh
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  Speaker 1: was a victim of sexual assault as a child with
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  Speaker 1: the acting coach who was employed by Nickelodeon in these shows.
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  Speaker 1: And so that was really disturbing. And he was convicted,
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  Speaker 1: only did six months, insane. But now Drake, who's 35...
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  Speaker 1: has come out and shared that it was in fact
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  Speaker 1: him and tells his story. But your episode that you
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  Speaker 1: mostly featured on, you're featured a little bit throughout it,
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  Speaker 1: is really about how you got your first writing job
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  Speaker 1: on Amanda. So let's talk a little bit about like
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  Speaker 1: your background and how you got this job.
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  Speaker 3: My then agent put me up for the Amanda show.
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  Speaker 3: And I think it came from a general I had
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  Speaker 3: with an executive, I think. So when I got hired,
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  Speaker 3: on that, and I interviewed with Dan, and I don't
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  Speaker 3: remember who. Yes, Dan Schneider. And the line producer called,
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  Speaker 3: and she goes, well, I've got good news and bad news.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if she said exactly that, but she says,
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  Speaker 3: we want to hire you. And I'm temping at the
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  Speaker 3: time in the human resources department at Warner Brothers, who
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  Speaker 3: are awesome and still my friends.
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  Speaker 2: I love them.
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  Speaker 3: But I, you know, was ready to, I'd been out
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  Speaker 3: here for several years, and I was ready to do something.
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  Speaker 3: So she said, oh, but we are going to team
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  Speaker 3: you with a writer, another female writer. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if she said female.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if she did or not, actually. That's interesting. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: so I was, like, excited. And, like, I went to
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  Speaker 3: the warehouse and bought a Kinks CD. And I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: this is my splurge because I've got a job. And
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  Speaker 3: the beginning, the early days were a blast. And you
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  Speaker 3: know what? It was fun being, like, I sidled right
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  Speaker 3: up to Dan. And, like, you know, he did call
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  Speaker 3: us the girls.
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  Speaker 1: So how many people were on the writing staff?
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  Speaker 3: It was Dan and his second, and then me and
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  Speaker 3: Jenny and one other writer. So it was five total.
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  Speaker 1: So the two of you are sharing a salary. Correct.
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  Speaker 1: So you were not writing partners who came in, which
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  Speaker 1: I know back in my day people would do that,
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  Speaker 1: and I believe later on Writers Guild said that wasn't allowed. Right.
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  Speaker 3: Paper teaming is what it's called. And I think it
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  Speaker 3: was illegal then too.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. But again, this is why unions are built
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  Speaker 1: because people are so desperate to have the opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: be creative that they would– without the unions, they would
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  Speaker 1: take nothing to work on these shows. So it's like
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  Speaker 1: anything to get your foot in the door. But you
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  Speaker 1: said okay.
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  Speaker 3: I said okay.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And this was a Writers Guild job. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Now, when you join the Writers Guild, it's like a grand.
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  Speaker 3: Like you have to. There's a lot of money. And
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  Speaker 3: I thought, oh, don't they cover this? But no, they
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  Speaker 3: do not. And so, like I said, those early days
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  Speaker 3: were fun and frivolous. But any time you'd say, hey,
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  Speaker 3: do a thing for $ 50, I would jump at it
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  Speaker 3: because I needed the money.
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  Speaker 1: Now, let's talk about having them do something. It wasn't
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  Speaker 1: like go pick up lunch, though, for $ 50 or was it? No,
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  Speaker 1: it was little things. So little funny things to amuse him. Right.
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  Speaker 3: And sometimes they weren't money. Like we did a smell
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  Speaker 3: the writer competition where I was blindfolded and the writers
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  Speaker 3: would walk up to me one by one and I
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  Speaker 3: had to guess who they were just by their smell.
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  Speaker 1: And it was fun. And you guys would just do
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  Speaker 1: this in the middle of the day just to procrastinate? Well.
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  Speaker 3: I, again, this is my first show. And I know
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  Speaker 3: from running rooms or whatever, sometimes you need a little
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  Speaker 3: bit to let off steam and be a little silly
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  Speaker 3: or watch a funny video or something to kind of
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  Speaker 3: like get everybody in again. And, but it was just,
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  Speaker 3: it was fun and light and he was funny. And
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you couldn't go to the bathroom because there
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  Speaker 3: was always gonna be some joke played on you when
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  Speaker 3: you walked in. Like everyone would ignore you or people
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  Speaker 3: would throw pencils at you. And, guys, I really want
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  Speaker 3: to say that I did not find any of this
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  Speaker 3: part abusive at all. I didn't. I mean, the thing
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  Speaker 3: I talk about in the show I thought was a
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  Speaker 3: little much, but it.
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  Speaker 1: Was— Let's just tell it. Let's tell that story. You
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  Speaker 1: tell it there. Let's tell it here.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I didn't tell it there.
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  Speaker 1: You're right. You didn't tell it. Jenny told it, the partner.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it was— he said— I was telling some story about
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  Speaker 3: high school or running for high school something. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: It was something that was germane to whatever my pitch was.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And he said, can you do that and, you know,
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  Speaker 3: act like you're being sodomized? And I was like, no.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I know I said no.
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  Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 3: And he was like, come on, come on.
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  Speaker 1: Damned it said come on.
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  Speaker 3: That's right. And I did it. I mean, I did it.
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  Speaker 1: So you like stood up and then told the story.
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  Speaker 3: No, I bent over the table and told the story
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  Speaker 3: like I was being sodomized.
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  Speaker 1: I did. I did it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm look, I'm not proud of it, but I did it.
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  Speaker 1: What I think is crazy is that he used that word.
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  Speaker 1: Like I could see so I couldn't see it, but like, well, I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't know that he used the word.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't know if he said acted out like
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  Speaker 1: you're getting it from behind or something. I don't. He
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  Speaker 1: could have.
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  Speaker 3: To be fair, I don't know that he used that word.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: I know what he meant.
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  Speaker 1: OK.
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  Speaker 3: And so even then, I wasn't it was I wasn't
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  Speaker 3: demoralized until a few things. One, I tell in the
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  Speaker 3: in the thing where I had eaten a pint, two
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  Speaker 3: pints of ice cream and wanted the money that he wanted.
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  Speaker 3: he bet me to do it.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: So he said, will you eat two bites of ice
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: cream for $ 30?
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Well, it was like $ 200 or $ 300, something like that.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: And I did it. But days passed.
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: And I am.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Look, I did not live high on the hog. I
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: lived in a one-bedroom apartment in the fur bank. But
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: I still needed the money. And we had kind of
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: developed a friendship. That's the thing about a showrunner. You
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: want to be buddies, but at the same time, you've
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: got to have that line. And so... after he asked
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: somebody to kill a fly for $ 30 or whatever that was,
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: I said, oh, I'll do it, but should I add
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: that to your tab?
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Kind of joking. I don't know.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: I really didn't mean any ill intent.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: And I didn't mean to humiliate him.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: But he, you know, called me into his office.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Right then or later in the day? Like, I wonder,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: did he laugh it off and then was like.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: I don't remember.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, so he brings you in and.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: And he says, you know, don't you ever accuse me
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: of not making good on my bets again. And I
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: just said, oh my God, I am so sorry. That
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: is not what I, like they were all there for
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: the bets. So it wasn't like any new people were there.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: And I really felt terrible. I really did. And so
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: the next thing, and by the way, it's not that
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Jenny and I can't hang and hear dick jokes and,
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: you know, trade saucy barbs. It's the bullying thing. And
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: where that went, that was, to me, the most traumatic.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: The sodomy story, honestly, is like fifth on my list
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: of traumatic stories. He won, it was the first weekend
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: that he wanted to work. Now, he did a lot
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: of farting around, but guess what? As a showrunner, you
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: get to, like, we'd show up at 10. We wouldn't
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: work until noon. But that's his prerogative. That's his show.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: So one weekend, he said, hey, we need to work
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: this weekend. When is everyone available? And I said, absolutely. oh,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: I'm available all weekend except Saturday night I'm having friends over.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: So we do Saturday. Saturday day is the agreed upon day.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: So we're in the writer's room.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: We're working.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Day turns to night. And this is before cell phones.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: So all these people were going to show up in
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: my apartment in Burbank and call the police because I'm
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: not there.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: And so I'm like, I got to go. I've got
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: people at my house. And he's like, all right. And
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: then they worked a couple more hours. And I felt terrible.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: I felt terrible. So weeks later, it was the Bruce
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Springsteen concert. It was the opening of the Staples Center
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: on a Sunday night.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: By the way, have you seen Bruce Springsteen? What happened
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: over the weekend?
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: No.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Bruce Springsteen looks like Tilda Swinton now. What's that actually?
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Tilda Swinton?
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Swinton, yeah.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Like with plastic surgery?
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think because his hair is short
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: and gray. And I think sometimes men do start to
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: look like. old lesbian nuns it just happens and then
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: also he like busted open his shirt and he like
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: had pretty good pectorals but it almost looked like they
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: were breasts.
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: Your home changes over time the kitchen gets louder the
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: mornings get busier and suddenly you're wondering is it time
• 21:11
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• 21:15
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• 21:18
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• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: have faced tremendous setbacks, and yet somehow have found a
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: filed against me.
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: what would you do if it was given back?
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Where did that need come from, where you thought that
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: He said, I have a work dad.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I need a home dad.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: What happens next?
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: When I came in, he started crying.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: happens next.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: I decided to risk it all.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I realized how valuable every day was. You're worth the work.
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: You can use your voice even if it shakes.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Anyway, the internet went blaze. But go on. But you
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: were going to go see old Bruce Springsteen, cute Bruce Springsteen.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: That's right. 1999 Bruce Springsteen. And again, we're working on
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: a Sunday day. Day turns to night. And I'm like,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: I'm put in this... I mean, of course, I went.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: I did not go. And then that Monday morning, in
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: his office, he says, no more leaving for fun again.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: And I was like, Got it.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Now, how old are you at this time?
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: I turned 30.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: I just turned 30. And so at one point during
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: the show, I got to audition for a small part.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Okay. On the show.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: On the show. And I got it. And by some miracle,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: because like I say, not good.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: And I'm in the wardrobe or I'm getting dressed or whatever.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: We're about to shoot. And his second in command comes
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: and says, hey, did you know that you were being
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: paid as an under five? And you have seven lines.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: And I go, what? I go, wait a minute. I'm
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: getting half a salary.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I'm, what?
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Like, I'm sure in the moment, to him, I was irate.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: But I'm like, what am I going to do? So
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: I'm like, putting whatever, doing the, I'm telling you, not
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: two minutes later, Dan comes blustering in. Do you want
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: me to start cutting lines? Because I can do it.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: And I go, oh, no, no, I'm fine, I'm fine.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, what just happened? What was that? I
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: would have never known. I would have never said. I
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: don't know what that was. So we all during the
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: weeks were on edge and paranoid. And at one point,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Jenny got to have her own office. And so one
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: of the other writers would go hang with her. And
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: of course, I'm like, oh my gosh, are they talking
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: about me? Because at this point, near the end, it was.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Very- Now, how long of a time were you working
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: on the show?
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Gosh, it was 20-something. You know, it was back when-
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Like six months. We did 22 episodes and something like that.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: And it was very clear. Oh, by the way, after
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: one of those times he yelled at me, one of
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: the writers had a Xanax. It was Baby's first Xanax.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Because I'm like, I can't go back in that room. Anyway,
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: so it was so clear that He just did not,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: that I was the one on the outs. Then it
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: was the Tuesday before the Friday, which was our last taping. Now,
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: they had to build sets and stuff. So by Tuesday,
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: we were done writing. So I asked him. And by
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: the way, when I got hired, I said, well, sometimes
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: I have auditions. He's like, you can go auditions. Just
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: clear it with me. By the way, I had no auditions.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: But I said, hey, my manager, there's a director. I
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: have an idea. again, it was the Tuesday before the Friday,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: in the morning, we never even worked till noon. I said,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: can I go on this meeting? And he approved it.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: And I don't remember if it was an email, but
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: he approved it. So I go, I have this meeting.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: And it's getting kind of a little later. So I
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: look at my beeper because we had beepers. No one's
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: beeping me. And then I get all the way back.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: And it might have been around noon. It might have been,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: I might have been like cutting it close. And everyone
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: was in the writer's room. And I'm like, what's going on?
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: the line producer calls me into her office and she says,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: you're being fired. And I'm like, what? And she's like, yeah,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: there's excessive times that you, you know, weren't here. And
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: I'm like, huh? I go into my office, my computer's gone.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Now they, when you work on a show, you either,
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: they provide you with a computer.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Especially back then. Yeah.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: Or you use your own and they give you all
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: this type of, but so my computer, thank goodness, I
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: thought all along I was going to get fired. So
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: whatever things I saved along the way. So computer's gone.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: And I'm, like, I can't even, I'm shaking. I get
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: my stuff. The woman who felt pity for me and
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: helped me out and gave me my crew jacket, whatever,
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know what she did in production. She was
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: not asked back because of that kindness.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Right away? Or when the season ends, she wasn't asked back?
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Well, back then, like, season two started right away. So she,
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: it would have been, I don't know, 100%. Within a
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: few weeks. But she was not asked back because of
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: that kindness. And I know this because I've been told
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: this from others who were around. So I go back
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: to temping. And I, a few, then it's the holidays.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: And I was about to have like a lunch with
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: my agent and manager, you know, who stood by me.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: And my agent at the time, apparently when I was fired,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: he's like, if she has such a problem, why is
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: this the first I'm hearing of it? And I'm like, great, great.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: They're on my side. So I get this phone call
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: that from the manager and she's no, I get the
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: email from the agent first. And he says, I am
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: not meeting you for lunch because I am no, I
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: am not interested in representing you anymore. And it was
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: so dark. And it was like, I've heard you were
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: talking about me in the writer's room, which is a
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: breach of agent client privilege. Agent client privilege, not a thing.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Wait, is the agent a man or a woman?
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Uh, man.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: And it was so, and this is, by the way,
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: this is what I was talking about him in the
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: writer's room. You guys, my agent didn't come to my
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: birthday party and he hasn't come to a taping. And
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: the other writers are like, Christy, your agents aren't your friends.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Like I'm new to all of this. So I may have,
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: you know, talked in that way or, or reacted differently.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: been very reactive to things.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: But what all I'm getting is that, and this has happened,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: this happened to somebody I know too on a show
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: when they got fired from the show, they also were
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: at the same agency as the person that fired them
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: who was the star of the show. And then all
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: of a sudden they no longer had that representation because
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I sometimes think the agent wants to just please the
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: bigger star and they think whether it's a direct order
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: from the star or Or showrunner or creator or whatever.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Or they just put it upon themselves to be like,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I just want to be seen in a good light.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: And so since there's no longer a connection, I'm going
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: to just dump this person. And it happens all the time.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Well, it was done with such darkness. Like he, the
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: way Dan painted it.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: So it was basically, they weren't the same agents, by
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: the way, agencies. They were two different agencies. Oh, really?
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: That even makes it worse.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: So then he also, of course, trashes me to my
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: manager and she fires me. So I have nothing. I
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: have no representation. I have nothing. And I just couldn't believe, like,
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: it wasn't just, listen, we had three days left. He
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: could justifiably not invite me back because I don't know
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: that I... contributed as much as these others. That would
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: have been justifiable, to be really honest. But the fact
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: that he punished me for a thing that he cleared,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: and then he piles on all these weekend night things. Honestly,
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: it was so devastating.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: When you are thinking about this the other day, and
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I know so many women, myself included, that have had
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: moments as writers on shows and things where the male
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: who's in charge would fire them very abruptly or weirdly
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: like that. And I always wonder if it was just,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I do think it was sort of gender specific. And
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I do think there was something about a guy just
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: being like, fuck that bitch. Like, you know, something like,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: how dare she? Because I never hear about it a guy.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: When guys got fired, it was like they brought, you know,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: they told them nicely or they told them directly to
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: themselves or they, you know, gave them another chance.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Let them fulfill their contract. Yeah, it's just not the same.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: And like, I literally probably know five women that have
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: like a similar story to that of being one of
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: two female writers on a thing, thinking things are going great. Like,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I knew this woman and She was working on a
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: hit sitcom and the guy was really powerful and went
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: on to do a bunch of other sitcoms. And they
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: were joking about something and she thought they were joking
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: and telling, you know, that camaraderie between men and women.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: And she always thought she could hang with a guy.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: And he said something like, oh, fuck you. And then
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: her name. And she goes, well, fuck you too. And
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: then she got fired. Like right away. Like, like. like
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: thought everything was fine. He walked away, he chuckled. And
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: then like two hours later, she gets called by into
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: the line producer's office and is like, get your shit.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: You're done. And so I always, I just think there's
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: just something so interesting about that. Now we'll do working
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: on the Amanda show. Um, obviously you're in the writer's
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: room and stuff. Did you, um, have much contact or
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: observe anything with the kids and all of that?
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Well, because we were there on the Paramount lot with the,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: with the soundstage. So we went down there, not infrequently.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: And I gotta tell you, I saw nothing, nothing but
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: support and friendship. And I mean, they were younger. I mean,
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: this is the first year. So all the kids are
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: young and I never see anything untoward. And Amanda's parents
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: were there and I'll never forget the mother. I think
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: her name is Lynn always had a smile on her
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: face always. And they were, They were nice kids. And
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: this was before, by the way, the pedophile and the predator.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: They came season two.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Which is featured in the show. There was a PA
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: that was a full pedophile with many victims that he
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: would meet that were extras or acting on the shows
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: and have relations with. And they caught him. And then
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: the other pedophile was the male acting coach of Drake Bell.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he definitely. But I think that other guy was
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: on all that or I don't know. Jenny was like,
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: did he? Jenny thought maybe he could have been there
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: some of season one. But I'm like, I don't I
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: don't think so. I think this was all season two.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: So we weren't there. And I honest to God, I
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: never saw anything that seemed weird or out of place.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: And it was, you know, I mean, we were. Like
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: he would, what was so maddening.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Wait, was Drake and Josh a spinoff of the Amanda
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: show or a spinoff of all that?
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Well, of the Amanda show because season two is when
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Josh came. Like I never worked with Josh. He wasn't
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: there when I was there. But in fact, it made
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: me so furious because he was so mean in the writer,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: or at least to me or in that, whatever. But
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: then on the set, he was just friendly and loving.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Dan.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: And so I, it made me, I'm like, oh, I
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: wish we had that guy. We had that guy behind
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: the scenes.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just saw some videos of Amanda. It
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: is just like heartbreaking. Heartbreaking. Heartbreaking. Like she's got these
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: black eyebrows. She has a face tattoo, this dyed blonde hair.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: And she's, the way she talks to the camera is
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: like very strange. And she's like, so I'm trying to
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: get my manicures license and I didn't pass the test.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: But if I do pass the test, I'm going to
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: be doing it at this salon in Beverly Hills. And
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: everybody's like, oh, my gosh, we're definitely coming. And, you know,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: before that, she was trying to go to like fit
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: them and do fashion. And after the Amanda show, she
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: was in so many movies. She was in Hairspray. And
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: she was, you know, she's the man and all these things.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: And very cute. And I remember the first time I
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: saw her, I had this manager who had managed Margaret
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Cho and then she was managing me. And I went
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: to her house to talk about whatever, something that's not
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: going to happen or whatever. And I, and she had
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: this VHS tape and she goes, you have to see
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: this girl. And she puts it in and it's this
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: little girl at the laugh factory. And she's doing these jokes.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: And I remember she goes, everybody says dating is hard.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Dating's not hard. I think roofing's hard. And I was like, oh,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: that's like pretty funny. Like, And right then I'm like,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I've seen other kid comics and most,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: you know, and like now I've seen on American Scott,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: most of the parents are like writing for them and
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. She could deliver it.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: And then literally my manager wanted to be like, screw Heather,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: who's like 26. Let me find this 10 year old.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: And then within like two years. She has like the
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: dream show that every sketch comedy woman wants is to
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: be the Carol Burnett. And here she is like 12. Right.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Carol Burnett. And I do think it was a genius
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: idea of Dan Schneider because he was like, wait a minute.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to kind of take all these classic
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: sketch type ideas that have been on SNL and everything
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: else and make it for kids. And the kids think
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: it's fresh and funny because her acting like Judge Judy,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: they don't know who Judge Judy is. They just think
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: it's like a little girl being like, hey, I'm talking
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: to you. And you know what? I was like, I mean,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: it was smart. It was a smart idea to have
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: like a kid sketch group and stuff. It really was.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: And he was so... it had to be funny for kids.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Like we wanted it to be like Warner Brothers cartoons
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: where it's like, they're really smart and like bring the
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: kids along. And he's like, nope, they had to be
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: silly and kid. You know, that was, and that was
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: part of, I guess what made it so successful.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: And how did you feel about when they, I remember
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: like probably about five years ago or so is when
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: someone brought to my attention, the compilation YouTube video that
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: someone did of, All these inappropriate things that the kids
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: were doing on these Nick Lillian shows that were all
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: under Dan Schneider's regime. And it was a lot of
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: foot fetish stuff. It was a squirt, like trying to
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: get one of like a yogurt and it squirts like
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: it looks like a cum shot.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: On to little Zoe 101, Jamie Lynn Spears face. And
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: it has Ariana Grande when she had a, like, holding
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: a potato going, I'm trying to get a, the potato,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: can you get juice out of a potato? And, like,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: they also did those shaking exercise things. All these things.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: And I never remember seeing sexual stuff, but I do
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: remember walking into a room and seeing my kids watch
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: that stuff. And it was, like, iCarly with the other girl,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Jeanette McCready. Right. And I remember they're just, like, standing there,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, And they're talking about like a boyfriend
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: cheated and this and that. And I'm like, why are
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: these girls acting like it's an episode of Friends? Like
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: they're 12. Nobody who's 12 has blonde, long hair extensions,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: full eyelashes. And they're like, you know, have their little boobs.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: They're like not even teenagers yet. And I thought that
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: was so, and I was like, I don't like these shows.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I remember being like, I don't like these shows. And
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I didn't even See the sexual stuff. I just thought
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: the storylines were like too mature. But the sexual stuff.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Did you see the Ray Romano part in the film? Yeah.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: So Ray Romano is like a guest star. Maybe this
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: was maybe first season of whatever the, you know, everyone
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: loves Raymond or whatever. And the pedophile who, you know,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: assaulted Drake Bell. They're like, he's the pickle boy. He
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: had a small part on the show. And he's all
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: about pickles. And then they have Ray Romano sitting in
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: a bathroom with no doorknob. And they're like, would you
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: like a pickle? And they push the pickle through the
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: glory hole. It's literally like through the glory hole. And
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: then they have Ray Romano holding it like a dick
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: with two hands and like eating it. Which I wonder like,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Ray Romano must be dying.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: I'm sure.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Like, dying right now because, A, did he think about
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: it at the time at all but was like, whatever,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: it's a gig. Maybe it was before he had his
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: own show and was like, hey, we're not turning down anything.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: This is what they want me to do. I'm just
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: so grateful that my tiny part had no weirdness in it,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: which my episode of Drake and Josh was, I played
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: a mom. It was probably five and under, but it
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: was a guest star. Maybe it was just a guest star,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: but it was small. And I'm supposed to have this
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: kid and we're, waiting to go on a rollercoaster ride.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: And I was like, hey, stop. You know, the kid
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: is bugging them. And then I'm like, hey, stop being
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: like that to my kid. Like I'm being an annoying
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: mom and Drake and Josh are there. So I didn't
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: see anything weird. The wardrobe girl was someone I knew
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: from my neighborhood. And so I happened to be working
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: on it. And the only thing I remember is I
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, I go, you know, my son, he's
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: 21 now. So my son was like a baby. I go,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: my son is named Drake too. And Josh is like, oh,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: that's cool. And Drake goes, actually, that's not my real name.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: And this is like fourth season of the show. And
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Josh is like, it isn't? And he goes, no, it's
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Jared Drake or whatever. Drake is his middle name. And
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: I remember going, That's kind of weird, like that he
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: wouldn't know that. Right. But now I'm like, ah, boys
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: don't ask each other questions, so it's not that weird.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't, that whole thing, yeah, I mean, I didn't,
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: I kept up with it and watched it, but to
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: me it just took away from the bullying. I'm like,
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: let's not lose focus on the fact that he's a
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: tormenting bully.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Dan Schneider is.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: So forget about the dumb inappropriate jokes.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: I don't mean forget about it.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: But there are no accounts of him doing anything to
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: any kids.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: No.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: And, you know, people look at Amanda Bynes and they're like,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: was she a victim of something? Maybe not him. Maybe someone.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: You know, people think that about Britney Spears. They were
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: both child actors. Who knows? When you think about all
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: the stuff they did, all the movies, all the acting,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: an agent. And, you know, one of the things that
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: is so sad about the Drake Bell thing, which is
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: like what pedophiles do, whether they're a priest or a coach,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: they find the kid that, you know, maybe is from
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: a broken home or a single mom. And if the
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: single mom is a nurse with three, five other kids
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: and they're like, I'll take the kid to and from
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: swim practice. That is what's, that's been going on for
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: 50 years. Like since the very beginning, it was, you know,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: And sure enough, Drake Bell was still working with this
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: guy before he had his regular series. So he was
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: going on auditions from Orange County. And the acting coach
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: pedophile said, well, I'll take him from Orange County to Hollywood.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: And then he'll be so tired we won't do the
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: two-hour drive back. He could spend the night at my house.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: And the mom trusted it. And I always thought, and
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: I thought this about the moms in Leaving Neverland, too.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: let's just pray for those moms because they did not know.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: They did not think about it. Like the, and you
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: see Drake's dad cry, but I also really feel for
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: the mom who was not featured. Like she's embarrassed and horrified.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: And I, and also I want to say what's great
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: about today is self tape. Like my God, if this kid,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: if this was now, this kid would, yeah, maybe occasionally
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: go to LA, but not till it's like the final round.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: I constantly, from when Johnny was young, my son, have said,
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: you know, because he's got lots of coaches and stuff.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: He's never alone with them, you know, for too long. But,
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: you know, if something seems inappropriate to you, let us know. And,
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: you know, his pediatrician from when he was a baby,
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: like I just, I mean, we're pretty vigilant about things
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: like that and have been since he was little because
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: I just, I mean, it's a nightmare anyway.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: But to go on that long and have him say nothing,
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: that just breaks my heart. It just breaks my heart.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, the whole story is like every aspect of it,
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: but I just, the fact that he didn't feel like
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: he could tell someone or, I don't know. And I'm
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: always a nice kid. Like those kids were all very nice.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: I remember my brother was in a private school and,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: you know, for so long my mom would be like, Oh,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: you know, he didn't want to stay at that school
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: because he said the typing teacher was always getting everybody massages.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: And so, you know, he went out and went to
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: the public school. And it turned out 30 years later,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: he was the total pedophile, the typing teacher.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: And, you know, that's the thing. Again, did my parents
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: believe him? No, they didn't. But he kind of got
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: like such bad grades that they had to put him
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: into the public school. Okay. But he just thought it
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: or saw it or whatever. And then those people would,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: you know, go after the kid that had to be
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: there early in the morning because they were getting free tuition.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: You know, it was always something like they find a
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: moment where they could be alone. But let's talk more
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: about other experiences like in the business that we have
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: found that with women and the stuff that we would
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: put up with it. I want to congratulate the millennials
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: and the Gen Zers that don't put up with it
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: and that are better, um, and more open men and
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: women today than the Gen Xers and the Boomers.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Congrats to you guys. If you are running a show
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: and you're a millennial, guess what? You don't care. There's
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: not one part for a woman. There's not one room
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: spot for a woman. And I can remember being like- There's.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: More than one. You mean like, but there's only one.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: We can have one. Right.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Back in the day, it would be, hey, I'd ask
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: my agent, hey, I'd love to work on such and such. Oh,
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: they already have their woman.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Not all the shows, not all of them. But and
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: can I just say when you are the only woman
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: or the only low level, which that doesn't happen anymore either,
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: you your confidence. And I don't want to say everybody
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: for me. It took a while to get that confidence
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: because the confidence is 80 percent of it.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of pitches. There's a lot of whatever.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: And you've got to have the confidence to just pitch it.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: Come what may.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: And if there aren't a lot of people like you
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: in a room, it's not going to get traction. It's
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: not going to get momentum. You're not going to get confidence.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: And that took a while. But like I say, nowadays,
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: it is women, men, people of color, people of different backgrounds.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: And you want that as a group of writers. You
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: want all the different perspectives. Now, yes, sometimes these Gen
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Zers can can whine about stuff when, and I'm like,
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: you know what? Take several seats. Like you, there's, there's
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: a line where, how do I say this? There's, there
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: is a line, but you, we haven't crossed it yet.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: I know, I know where that line is. I've, I've,
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: you know, I've lived, I've lived in that line, but yes.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: And I felt, and this is another thing we talked
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: about earlier. The Me Too movement was awesome. And I
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: am so grateful to it. I, I, and all those
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: women that came forward with just harrowing, harrowing tales. I
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: wished the movement also included those of us who not
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: necessarily were sexually harassed, because nobody's hit on me inappropriately.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: None of that. But it just kind of stayed there.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: And then the men were like, oh, can I give
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: you a compliment? And I'm like, yes, of course you
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: can say I look nice. Like, let's, you know, let's... Um,
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: so I, I wished and Linda Bloodworth Thomason wrote a
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: wonderful op ed. I think it was in the reporter.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: It was about Les Moonves and it wasn't about him
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: hitting on her or whatever, but it was about him
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: being discriminatory against her and her female driven show. And
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: I was like, yay, this is what I'm talking about. Like,
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: let's keep this narrative or let's include this narrative rather. And, um,
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: you know, I, I don't think it, it, it did, but,
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: but I, but like I say, it doesn't matter because
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: those old school, you know, folks are, it's.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Like, it's like the, and I don't recall whose story
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: this was, but it was during that time about a
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: female writer and the guy came up behind her and
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: like laid his, Janice Hirsch. And laid his dick on
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: her shoulder.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: On, on, while she was like working.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I just want people to know, like, that
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: is the way an insecure guy acts to embarrass people.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: and make a woman be smaller. Like, that is what
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: it is. It is not, because it's funny. And I
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: want to also say, like, we don't also give the
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: guys enough credit that are not pervs.
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: That go up to the perv and go, fucking what? Dude,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: stop it. Knock it off. Like, there aren't a lot
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: of those guys that do that. And there were a
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: few people in my career that I always recognized And
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: then there's women that don't stick up for other women.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: And I've seen it where women, like a woman showrunner
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: or something, is kind of jealous of you.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: The last showrunner I worked with was a woman. And
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you, every other day she would tell me
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: how funny I was. She's the only showrunner who has
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: asked me to work for her again. And there's just
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: something to that when someone says, oh, you're funny, and
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: there's a light airiness, and you get to, you know.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: In fact, my last, no. Anyway, I've had female showrunners
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: who have told me to my face that they thought
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: I was funny. And I don't know that any of
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: the males, and to be fair, like I said, it
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: took me a while to get to, where I could,
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: I knew what I was doing or could, had my
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: own comedic take. It took me a while. So I
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: don't want to make it sound like, you know, I
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: deserved all this stuff right away. But I feel like
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: I'm glad that it is not only more open to
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: women to do different things in the business, but also
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: women's stories and women's point of view on things. And
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's a terrible time in the business right now,
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: like terrible, which is why like.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Because a lot of things are not going into production,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: even though the strike is over. So there's a lot
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: of people that are really struggling on all levels of production. Yeah.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: That's right. It used to be these legacy companies... ran
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: things and now you have these tech companies running things.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: And then I don't know how it's legal that like
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: a studio could buy another studio. Like that seems weird,
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: but whatever, you know, the government approved it. It's fine.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: So there's this strange like contraction happening because of all
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: of these sort of deals, which makes me think like,
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: Are they just planning on not having television anymore? Well, whatever.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: I decided to make this short because here's the difference
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: between film and television. In television, you have to have
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: these gatekeepers, and it's a long list of them to
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: say yes. And they want to keep their jobs. So
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: if I walk in and Mindy Kaling walks in, and
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: we both have ideas that are, let's just say, equal
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: and all, they're going to pick Mindy's because she's got
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: a track record. Because she can do several different shows
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: in a year because now shows are only eight episodes.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: The orders are smaller, so the same people can be
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: doing everything. Or they'll make a deal with someone and
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: just buy from them. And so anyway, the difference between
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: television and film is with film, all you need is money.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: That's it. That's all you need. Now, that's a big thing.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm going to raise a million dollars to
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: make my movie. And I couldn't even raise $ 32, 000. but
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: for the short, but it was at least very freeing
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: and making choices and getting to, I mean, you know,
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: there's nothing like doing your own thing. There's nothing like it.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: And I don't know.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, it is great because, you know, when
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: you talk about when you're on a show and having
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: to ask to do something, you know, when you bring
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: that up, and I remember, like, I would be like
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: leading up to like how I was going to ask
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: whether it was like an audition or something or like
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: to be with my kid or whatever. And I was like, how,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: how do I say it? When do I say it?
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Do I go to the, the main, the top, top person?
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I had to go to the second tier person. Do
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: I do an email? Do I knock on the door?
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Like I would stress about that so fucking much. Like,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: you know, and I'd be so jealous of, you know,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: my male counterparts that were like, Hey, uh, my son
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: has a baseball game at three o'clock today. So I'm
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: going to leave around two 15. And they're like, great.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: I hope he gets a home run. I'm like, what? Like,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I have been just freaking out because I'm so,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: but that's part of my persona too. Like I just
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: am a scaredy cat and other people have more generation too.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I, and I, and I, that's again, one of
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: the reasons I wanted to do the short was because
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: I don't feel like we have had our coming-of-age story.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: Here's the deal. At Gen X, we had loads of
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: independence but little confidence. We relied on ourselves, but we
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: didn't believe in ourselves. And that doesn't surprise me.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: That's very interesting, yeah.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: And I think that– not that people don't still enter
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: a room and get nervous and all of that.
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: But it's not like– I mean, the millennials and Gen
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: Zers aren't crippled with that kind of– Well, there are.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Some funny things that I've seen that I'm like, oh,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: my God, this is so true about Gen X and
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: why we raise our kids, our Gen Z kids the
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: way we do. And it's because it's like all of
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, moms should all go work. And
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: so now we're latchkey kids. Yes. And you're supposed to
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: answer the phone, but then you're supposed to act like
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: someone's there. So we had to answer the phone and
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: be like, hello, McDonald's, McDonald's residents. Is your mom there?
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: You know, whatever. And be like, well, she is. But
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: she's in the shower. Like, we had a whole thing
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: so we wouldn't, like, be, you know. I mean, I
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: have a story about being flashed twice on the way
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: home from school. Like, we were always on our own.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: There was always about, like, there were people that there
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: were girls. There was a kidnapping thing that happened. It
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: was horrible. Oh, my God. I mean, all these things that, like, just.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: make us, like, we don't realize it, you know? And
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: so then, it's just, it's like, yeah, like, we were
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: able to do these things and we were independent, but
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: you're right, we didn't have the....
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: Right, like, that confidence that should have come with being
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: able to take care of ourselves.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: It just didn't, you know, it wasn't... Yeah.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: It's very... It's very interesting. When you were saying the
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: thing about him giving you money to go do something
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: that would be for his entertainment, I remember a story,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: and again, I'm remembering it, so I can't say it's
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: like 100% true, that when Roseanne and Tom Arnold were
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: a couple, and they were in the tabloids all the time,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: there was a story about how she offered an assistant,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: the two of them offered an assistant or somebody, 10
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: grand to shave their head. And I think maybe the
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: girl did it. But it was like this weird like
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: power thing that sometimes could happen with TV and comedy
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: and like, oh, let me just see if I can
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: like get away with this or, you know.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: Like a food fight. You're like, why are we doing
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: a food fight? Or like, you know, it's just it's weird.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Like I remember like, you know, I'll take two nice
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: things about Chelsea. One is the first. week I was there,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: she came in and we pitched things and she texted
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: me and she's like, I'm so glad you're on this show.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Your ideas are really funny. I totally love that. The
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: other one, which I didn't think was, I didn't mind it.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: It never happened to me, but we would be like,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: she would do this thing. We'd be in bathing suits
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: or whatever. You're on your yacht and like, she'd like
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: go sit on somebody's lap. That's her friend. Someone would
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: take a photo and then she would just like pee
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: on them. And I'm only telling it because it's in books. Chelsea,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: the lies Chelsea Hitler told me she has told about,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: she thought it was funny. I don't even know if
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: people didn't really mind it because you could just jump
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: in the water, I guess. But it is sort of
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: a weird power thing that I'm not saying she would
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: do it now.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying somebody would traumatize or file a
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: lawsuit for it. But it's a power thing where you
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: are like the court jester type of thing for the
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: king or queen. And you're like, I just have to
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: stay in this. I just don't want to be the
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: one that's on the outs.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be the one that's, like, the
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: one that's not going to do the cold open where, like,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: at any time, like, I have to, like, camel toe. Like,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: there was this lady. This was funny. This stuff I
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: didn't mind, though. And there was nothing I did on
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: that show that I was against. But there was somebody
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: else that was like, I don't really want to do that.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: It was, like, making fun of, like, oh, she's slutty
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: or whatever. And she was a writer and she was like,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: I do live with my boyfriend. I don't know that
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: he would like that. And then it was like, there
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: was this kind of like, that's annoying. Cause everybody does
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: whatever it is. Chewy rolls around. I have a camel toe,
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: you know, Chris Frangeli, Chris Frangeli is acting like some
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: weird dude. Like we all did. And so then the
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: one person that's like, um, very respectfully, like, could we
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: think of something else? Then you're just like, so it,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: Then they're like, now she stayed and everything. But like,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: I just think that's just, it's a weird comedy world.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: And then I think it got, then I remember we,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: at NBC, we had to talk to everybody about, you know,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: sexual harassment, whatever. And they told that Supreme Court case
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: about the friend's room, which was, I believe, an intern
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: or a writer's assistant sued and said there was such,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: crass dirty language and things not necessarily directed at her
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: but she had to be subjected to it because her
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: job was to be in the room that she wanted
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: to sue for that and then it went to like
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: the Supreme Court and it was like this is a
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: creative space and therefore it is okay yeah to be
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: and it is a weird thing especially now because that
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: was like 15 20 years ago that that case happened.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: It's just if it's directed at you if it's just
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: talk around the room and whatever like it It just,
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: it's different when it's just people telling dick jokes or whatever.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: One show I was on, the beginning of every single day,
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: a junior writer would come and talk about the girl
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: he slept with the night before in graphic detail. And
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: one time she started her period in her bed. Isn't
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: that gross? Oh, gross, gross, gross, gross, gross.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry that we bleed once a month for 40 years.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: But this was day after day after day. And I
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: was fired from that show, too.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: Did you ever say anything about it? No. Yeah. No.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't either.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's like there's nothing actionable. It's just like, ew.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: No, I would be in a room, too, where I
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: would say, oh, I was with this girl, and she
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: had like a full bush and I got the I
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: came back with a razor and you know all this
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: and I'm like oh my god like I I kind
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: of respected that they were there was something that felt
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: cool that they didn't care that I was there right
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: that I was like I can't I that's when I
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: really got to learn how guys are so different than
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: girls too and And how they see girls that they
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: screw and girls that they actually love. And I saw
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: how many people cheated. And that was sort of heartbreaking
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: because I was like, wait, he's married with two kids.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: And this story was only two years ago. So this
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: story of him cheating could not have been 12 years ago.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: And I was just like, oh, okay. Well, now I know.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: But you hit on something that, like, yeah, it is
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: sometimes fun to be the girl in the boys' place.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, and people I know have written about that
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: or whatever. And, again, it's only when it kind of
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: turns on you or makes you uncomfortable. And who knows
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: what that line is until, you know, until it's crossed.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: And then if it is, then, like, you're just all right.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: You reset and all of that. You know.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Now, you told me a story, and it's kind of
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: an intricate story, but how weeks or many– time after
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: you left the Amanda show, you found out that two
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: of the main.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: People, Dan and a writer were trying to sabotage my,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: like it was like a Craigslist or something. I was
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: selling stuff because I had no money and yeah.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: And they were able to go in as like, you know,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: a fake account and kind of screw it up and
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: mess with you. And I remember there was a, somebody
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: wrote something about a writer's room and they're like, Well,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: a writer's room usually begins with the first hour. Everybody
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: talks about the one writer that is no longer there.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Like rips on them.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: And then they talk about whatever other things they, you know,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: it's so and so really this age. And then you
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: finally start. you know, pitching your stuff. But everybody is
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: down to procrastinate for as long as possible. And that's
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: really left up to the head writer or whatever. Okay,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: let's start pitching.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: And you should be able to feel free to say
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: things or bring things up or ask questions or, you know,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: even if it's not important to what you're doing, there
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: is some leeway and you should be granted. And I
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: just want to make sure that this is very clear that,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't think there should be no curse
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: words or no this in a room.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: One thing you said about, and I remember when the
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Writers Guild was, you know, on strike and all that,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: that to save money, they don't, they want to just
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: give one person like a script. It's not as much
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: of like a collaborative room for, there's not the pre-production
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: of breaking down, you know, the season where you'd have
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: several weeks before you ever shoot the first episode, whether it's,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: I'm in front of a live audience or, you know,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: like a whatever, like a modern family, which is not.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: And they don't they didn't want to pay for that.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: And then they're like, but that there's no way for
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: them for a for it to be as funny as possible.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: Secondly, that someone can then learn if they're not around
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: it is if a junior writer is not around it,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: they're not going to get better. Right. And it's the
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: same way I feel about like when some like big
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: tick tocker who could do a lot of funny impressions
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: and stuff. I'm like, they may not even want to
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: be on SNL because they're like, well, I can make
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: so much money on my own. But I'm like, but
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: you're never going to go to the next level and
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: be a great actor if you can't work with other people. Right.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: Because that, by the way, that is a skill that
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: is learned. Being able, and I, during the strike, I
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: taught a summer class at the University of Florida, which
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: is my alma mater. And it was all about just
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: the room, about working in a writer's room, how you pitch,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: and all of that. And because it used to be
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, King of the Hill, we had 15 writers
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: or something like that. And what was great, which is
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: great about having a big staff is you can split
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: rooms and get more done because you don't put 15
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: writers in a room. That's crazy. Well, nowadays, these shows
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: and there are a lot of monies behind them and
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: their prestige. And it's like one person. And I'm sorry,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: but I mean, some people can do it and pull
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: it off. So I don't want to I don't want to. whatever,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: Mike White, this is his process. He's a genius. It's
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: all good. I just think that this, um, the thought
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: that one person can make something real good. It's just, um,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I, I, there are very few of
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: those people. And I, to me, it's wasted money. Whereas you,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: you get a room full of people and you have
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: debate and you have, oh, here is something funny that
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: happened to me that we could put in the story.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: And then, oh my gosh. And it's, And this, oh, like,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: you know what? People don't say that anymore or whatever. Like,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: you have, and it's, and I don't know. Like, there's
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: something great about it. And even on Zoom, Zoom was
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: a good stopgap. Like, it was fine, too, because I
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: was on a show that was on season two. So
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: we Zoomed and it was fine. But then starting a
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: new show when you're on Zoom, it's, there's something about
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: having that, you start a joke and someone else completes it. Or, ooh, like, it's, it,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: It's this great thing, and I don't know why.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: It's sad. I'm afraid it's not going to be a
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: thing anymore.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: I'm hopeful, Heather, that with the strikes done and people
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: figuring out who's going to buy what company and whatever.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: that that's going to kind of settle, and then they're
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: going to realize, like, oh, we've got to have content. Like,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: what are we doing? We can't just buy from overseas.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: Those shows are great, but people aren't going to keep
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: your channel if you're not going to give them something
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: fresh and interesting and new. And yes, the people who
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: have deals with you are going to kick ass and
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: do great, but I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Before we close, I just want to do a little
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: bit of a follow-up. So Dan Schneider has done a
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: small interview. It was like 20 minutes. Yes. In which
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: he apologizes. I think he also went on Ozempic. So
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: good for him for that. And he's like, you know,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: I want to apologize to anybody that I made give
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: me a massage or made uncomfortable or whatever. And I
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: do think that there's something interesting in that. Like any tyrant,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: sometimes they get mad and they try it. Like if
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: it's your kid or yourself or your husband and someone
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: lets you get away with it, I do think it
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: can– I'm not saying it's the people's fault, but I'm
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: like I think he had it in him. And then
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: I think he was able to every year just keep
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: doing this and acting horribly with no repercussions or anything.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: Until finally, I guess, I think it was the, I
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: can't remember from the show, what was the impetus to
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: finally have him go, oh, we have mutually decided to
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: say goodbye and I'm going to take $ 7 million. And
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: there were, I think there was enough complaints or something,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: you know, because, and then he goes, well, look, all
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: these jokes about Pickle Boy and this and that, the
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: network approved it and these people approved it. And I
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: also think, yes, that could have been it. Also, I think,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: who's ever proving it is a little bit lazy. He's
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: doing good work. They're probably more focused on the show.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: That's not getting the ratings. So they're kind of like,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: whatever kids love it, you know? And because no, like
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: parent was, or maybe, and then I felt bad for
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: the one boy from all that, whose mom was like, Yes.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: And was like, what the hell is going on? And
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: then they said, we don't want to ask him back.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: And then she said that was a big problem for
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: then she and her son because he sort of blamed her. Right.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: For being the person that like, oh, you complain too much.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: That I wasn't, you know, working, that I was having
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: to do humiliating things. And he was black. So there
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: was like, there was that element that he felt like
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: he was being, you know, cast and put in costumes.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: He was part of all that. So there was like,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: you know, some weird humiliating things. you know, sketches that
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: didn't have to be that, you know, and so there
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: was all, so I thought that whole thing was an
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: interesting thing. The Brian Peck, pedophile of, you know, of,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: of Drake, he gets out and then he gets another
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: job on Disney, a Suite Life of Drac, no, Suite
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: Life of Zack and Cody, who are twin boys, like
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: a pedophile's dream, right? And somehow somebody finally, Hopefully before
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: anything happened. I don't know how long grooming takes, but
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: I guess it hadn't come to it and got him
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: kicked off. And they're like, OK, I guess we'll do
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: background checks, background check on people who are also freelancers.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: They were only doing it for people that were like,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: I guess, full time employees and not checking when you
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: have a children's show.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: I I can't.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: But like if it. If it was happened now, that
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: guy would be ostracized forever. It would be all over
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: the news. But the fact that a friend of mine
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: who worked on one of these shows, there was a party.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: And he said that it was after that guy got
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: out of prison and he was at the party. And
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: my friend was like, what is, is this just, are
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: we going to?
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: But that's. Hollywood for you. That is Hollywood for you
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: where people are like, la, la, la, la, la. I
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: don't want to know. I'll just get my drink. I
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: won't leave my kid alone with him.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: But if, if my kid gets a job and he's there,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: I'll just make sure that we don't leave my kid
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: alone with him. But I don't want to not have
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: the job. I don't want to be the person who
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: makes the waves and then jeopardize our career or a
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: kid's career or my career. And it still happens today
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: with adults. They don't stand up for what's right in
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: this business. And they are like, well, he was always
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: nice to me, you know, and even with Jeffrey Epstein,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: he had dinner parties after he did his weekend, his
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: first stint of prison when he was in Florida on
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: the weekends, when that was all over, he was having
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: dinner parties with a lot of people in Hollywood were,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: you know, and, and elites in New York were going
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: to his dinner parties with his weird art and everything
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: else at his town home. And so the people were like, Oh,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: there was some weird art. I don't know. I, but
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: I got invited and I'm like, sure, I'll go. And
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: maybe they never went back, but they, they didn't go,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: you guys, this is fucking weird. Like they didn't, you know,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: they didn't. Yeah. And it's just like, Oh my God. Yeah, please.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: Like it's so few people stick up. Um, Yeah. So
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: those are the things I thought. I mean, is is
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: Dan Schneider working on anything?
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: Well, I would posit that if he hadn't done that
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: puff piece in The New York Times, I think it
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: was in 2021. What was that? Well, it was a
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: total puff piece. And it was like he he's pictured
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: like sitting in a tree. And it was all about
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: like Dan Schneider's ready for his comeback. And the whole
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: thing was just puff, puff, puff, puff, puff. There was
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: no negative, like, oh, he can be tough. And there
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: were several of us writers who had worked with him.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: And are tweeting like, what is this? What is going on?
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: Like this, he is a monster. And even the one
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: writer who was quoted was like, I included all of
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: the stuff I said about him. And they just didn't
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: put that in. So he must have gotten a publicist.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: Because at the end of it, it said, you know,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: he's got a pilot somewhere. And, you know, we're like, no. No,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: this is not going to happen. And so then... I
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: think after that, the Business Insider woman, because we were contacted.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: Rolling Stone was going to do a thing, but then
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: the Business Insider article came out. And anyway, just one
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: thing kind of led to the other to the other.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: But I bet if that hadn't happened, he would have
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: just gone off into the sunset with his millions. But
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: he wanted to come back and enough people were like,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: all right, let's delve into this. Let's delve into, you know,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: this just being mean. And, you know, Jenny ended up
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: because she was asked back for season two and they
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: touched on this. She was asked back for season two.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: Dan said, oh, you don't have to split us out.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: We're going to give you $ 100 a week raise or
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: something like this. But this is how we're going to
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: do it. You have to you'll be paid for 27
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: weeks and then not paid for 11 weeks. And yet
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: he hired a male writer who had no credits at
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: full salary. And she lasted four days. And that– the
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: bravery that it took her to– and that's in the
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: special where she walked in a room. All the guys
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: were sitting. There was no seats. And so she's standing
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: there with a pad and he says, did you ever
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: done phone sex? And she was like– or something about
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: phone sex.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Have you ever done phone sex?
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: Or worked at a phone sex place? Or it was
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: something about– didn't you do phone sex? Something about phone sex.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: Work, yeah.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: Where it was– You know, and she's there with her pad.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: And so she went home and looked in the phone
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: book for a lawyer. Bless her. And she got this
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: lawyer and they filed for sexual discrimination. And I'll never forget.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: I'm temping. She calls me. She goes, I know I'm
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: the last person you want to hear from because they
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: all abandoned me.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: To your point about like when you have the stink
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: on you. And I, so I wrote a letter and
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: that's why we were able to use certain stories is
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: because it was documented in this letter of this suit,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: which they settled. I believe that, you know, that's.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: She settled. And then, so we don't know what she
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: settled for, but she left the business.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: She did. She moved to New York to be with
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: her family.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: But she knew. She goes, I know if I sue,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: it better be far enough because I know I'm going
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: to be fucked. The blackballing and what I've always said
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: about the Louis C.K., how he treated those two women that,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: you know, that he masturbated in front of at a
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: comedy festival, and then they like couldn't get work. And
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, because he doesn't want them to be
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: in a room where you start telling your juicy stories.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: Because if more people know what a creepy is, so,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: and I always, that's always, I tell that story over
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: and over again because I'm like, I want people to
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: know like how fucked that is.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: It's like you think, well, I won't sue you and
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: I won't do anything. But they're like, oh yeah, but
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: I behaved badly in front of her, so let's just
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: make sure nobody works with her. Because I don't want
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: that story out about me. So I'll just blackball them.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: And Ginny is a great writer. She was, at the time,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: definitely better than me. Like, she was just funnier. And
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: I'm hoping that she will be able to use this
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: to try to you know, get some screenplay out there.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: And then when they approached you to be on this,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: were you hesitant?
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: Yes. I, cause it's not that Dan could hurt my career.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: I was worried at like, Oh, does he know where
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: I live? Is he gonna, you know, kill my plants?
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: Like I, we, everyone was so scared. And that's why
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: I say in the thing that that's why no, and
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: people who have worked with him have gone on to
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: the stratosphere and But everyone's afraid of him and what
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: he would do in retaliation. Because something's coming. Like, I
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: know something's coming.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: Something's coming bigger about him.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 5: No, no, no.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: Meaning, like, I.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: Feel like he's not going to just let this go.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: That's just my feeling.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: He's going to try to redeem himself.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: He went after me so hard 25 years ago. Maybe
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: he's matured. To be fair, I know I'm more mature
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: than I was, you know, back then.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: Everyone was just afraid, even the people that have left
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: the business. I'm like, come on, you know we can't be,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: two women can't be believed unless a man, unless Hannibal
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: Buress comes and, you know, like with the whole Cosby thing.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: But I'm happy to say that we've gotten nothing, I
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: don't want to say nothing but positive, but it's been
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: lovely how people have reached out and been great. And
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you don't even know the worst stuff. You
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: don't even know it. But so everyone was afraid and
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: I knew Jenny wanted to do it. And I I
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: was not about to let her do it by herself.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: I just wasn't like I would have loved to have
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: just said no. But then I thought if it happened
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: and I wasn't a part of it, I would regret it.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So. But a lot of people, I'm sure, got
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: offered and was like. Oh, everyone.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: Everyone. Everyone. Are you going to talk? Are you going to.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: you know, and then piss off somebody for, you know,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: who knows how much they'll use of it and that
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: type of thing. I've been part of documentaries as well.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: And I'm always happy with what I say and do
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: because I've already said it here. So I'm like, sure,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: you know, I've got nothing to lose. But I understand
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: with other people in their careers or whatever, they're like, no,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: but when the right, when it's the right thing, I
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: think that you should like stick by your friend when
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: you know they're telling the truth and not just act like, Oh,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: I didn't know. I don't know the story. You're like,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: but I told you the entire story and I show
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: you the, the proof receipts, everything I've showed it to you.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: So like, I think, and the people that were actually
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: there with you that, and then you said that, you know, they,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: they didn't participate, but then you'd hear from them after like,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: good job.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Thanks. Yeah.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 5: Thanks.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you went out there and told the story.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna, you know, you know, say, sign off
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: on it publicly.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: But here's this text. And, yeah, that is Hollywood, which
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: is just different than other industries, you know. And it's
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: different because if you have credentials to whatever, be a dentist,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: a surgeon, a mechanic, someone doesn't like you, whatever, you
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: take your resume and you go and you can still
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: work at this garage. It's like Hollywood, someone doesn't like you.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: For a reason that they think could affect them. And
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: they can fuck you up. Or make you go away.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about necessarily murder, though. I'm sure
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: that's happened. But I mean, like, just make it difficult.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: Alienate you. Ostracize. Make it that you're trouble. Right. You're trouble.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: I will say, it's different now than it was 25
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: years ago. Because there's such executive turnover.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: Like, no one.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: Has everyone's just fighting to keep their jobs in any aspect.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: So I will say I don't I feel like that
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: may be lessening. I feel that I really do.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: Think a lawsuit is really interesting because, you know, you
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: remember when Nicolette Sheridan of Desperate Housewives sued Mark Cherry.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: Have we seen her in much sense? no we have
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: not okay then there's other people that um i remember
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: kristin shadoweth had this awful thing happen on her on
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: the set a light like fell on her head And
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: I remember going, oh my God. And she's like, oh,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: I couldn't do my tour. I lost a million dollars
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: because I sing and I used to do cartwheels and
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: all this stuff. She was always, you know, like this entertainer.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: And I go, well, aren't you going to like Sue?
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: And she was like, well, no, because I mean, I'm
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: hoping to get like this variety show. And this is
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: just my recollection of the conversation. Okay.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: But I have a pretty great recollection, but whatever. And,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: you know, so... They sort of promised her that. Do
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: you remember Kristen Schenoweth's variety show? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: it never happened.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, I remember that story.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: It never happened.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's right.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: It never happened. And, of course, she's done great. And
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: she's actually doing the Broadway version of The Queen of Versailles,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: which I think is going to be so amazing. And
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: I know The Queen of Versailles. And I know Kristen.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: And I think this is great. Everything happens the way
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: it's supposed to be. But you are– there is a–
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: Do I sue and possibly never work again, but then
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: get this chunk of money I think I deserve?
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: And maybe do the right thing and show what's wrong
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: and maybe prevent someone else from being hurt? Or do
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: I play along in the hopes that they know that
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: I'm an easy person to work with? Yeah. It's like
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: a very hard thing.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you're a certain.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: Achieved a certain level, they will turn a blind eye
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: to things because money. Like, if you're difficult, no one
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: cares if you're a star.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: Like, I.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, there are plenty of people who are deemed
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: difficult that, like, oh, will that get my movie made? Great,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: you're in.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: But, I mean, I joke, kind of.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 5: But, yeah.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: But we're in this new age now where nothing's getting done.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: So who.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: who and what moves the needle and all of that.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: I'm hoping that at the other end of the things that,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: you know, there'll be some sort of a reckoning.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: Yes. Oh, one more thing I was going to say
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: about the emancipation of kids. Yeah. And it's like in some,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: it's so hard because you hear like, oh, these parents
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: took the money. But there are, you know, laws to
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: protect them. So then it's like Amanda tried to emancipate.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Drew Barrymore emancipated. Then Drake, you know, had his dad
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: removed as his manager, Drake Bell, because the Brian Peck
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: was like, I think he's taking money. And I thought
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: about it, too. He saddled up to his mom because
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: the parents were divorced. And I'm just saying, you know,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: he was an out gay man. And I think he
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: probably charmed the mom and was like, your ex doesn't
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: know what the fuck he's doing. This kid's going to
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: be a star. And so then the mom took over,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: and then he knew that the mom didn't want to drive. Like,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: it's very, very planned out. And I just saw this
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: girl who was a correctional officer. And she's like, I
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: was a correctional officer for many years, but when I
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: would go to the unit, because they'd have to have
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: their own unit for pedophiles, she's like, they were the nicest,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: most polite, most charming. Can I help you with anything?
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: They were the most normal looking people. And so that
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: is the warning. But then she would go and like
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: look up what they did to get them in. And
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: she was just, horrified the other people that were robbery
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: and whatever they're what you think they would be like
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: you know crass and thug like pedophiles are like salt
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: of the earth nicest guy in the world and then
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: when those letters happened so the the um letters of
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: what happened was when he was you know i i
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: think he you know he was convicted but i think
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: it was almost like Let's have everybody write letters so
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: maybe he'll get less time.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: Character letters. And a lot of other male actors had
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: done this. Not Leonardo DiCaprio, but Leonardo DiCaprio was someone
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: that he was a coach for on set. Yes. Which
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: is interesting because, you know, Leo's had an interesting love life.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: And you never know what could happen in someone's childhood
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: that could perpetuate them to have to be into younger women, whatever.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: Not saying anything happened, but it's just an interesting correlation.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: He did not write this guy a letter, but these
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: other people did. And, you know, only Joanna Kearns from
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: Growing Pains has said, I am, you know, horrified. I
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: didn't have all the information. I wrote this letter 15
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: years ago. But the letters that were highlighted in the
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: special were like, he must have been tempted to. Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's how they framed it. Like jailbait. Like he, he
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  Speaker 3: must've been tempted.
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  Speaker 1: And of course at this time we did, they didn't,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: you know, uh, Drake Bell's identity was, um, sealed at
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  Speaker 1: the time, but they knew it was a child. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, and they knew, I think, I don't know
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: if they knew it was a boy, but they knew
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: it was a child. And I'm like, oh my God.
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  Speaker 1: And they all said it and they were all like
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  Speaker 1: actors and everything. And I don't begrudge some of them
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: not making a statement today because like James Marsden and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: because it's like, I get how this game is played.
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  Speaker 1: And if James Marsden just stays quiet about his letter,
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  Speaker 1: we probably won't be talking about this in two weeks. Right.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: But he could also say the same thing she said, like,
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  Speaker 1: my agent or manager told me to write that letter.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: But maybe not. Maybe he really did write it. Or
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: he could say, I had a great experience with him.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: Or maybe he's scared, too. And he did it because
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: he— I' m not saying he— or he knows something or whatever— But
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: when Drake said, the reason I didn't tell is because
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: I was like, if all of a sudden I act
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: like I don't want to see this guy anymore, they're
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  Speaker 1: going to wonder why. And they're going to figure it out.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: And I'm so embarrassed. Right. I don't want anybody to know. Anyway, so.
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  Speaker 1: I thought, you know, it's a very hard thing for parents,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: very hard position for parents to be in, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and hopefully that won't happen anymore either.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure it won't, by the way. I got the
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: most lovely email from one of the moms of the
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: kids that I directed the short. And she's like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry this happened to you. I think this is
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: just when the trailer was out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And she says, oh, I'm so sorry this happened to you.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: You know, you... you made the set so warm and welcoming.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: And it was just, it was very nice. And I'm like,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: that's what I want. That was worth it for me.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: And a gal that, and a show I ran was like,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: you ran such a great room or whatever. It was
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: just to me of all the, like, it's all been very,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: I don't want to use the word triggering. Like, I don't,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: I don't want to make like, but it's been an
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  Speaker 3: emotional couple of days. But when, and hearing those things
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: and then like, oh good, I took that bad experience
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: and I, I made it into something, you know, I
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: learned from that. I learned how to not treat people
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: and how to, you know, I mean, how do you not? Like,
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  Speaker 3: how does anyone come out of that and go like, ooh,
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  Speaker 3: I can't be a dick.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: But, yeah.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: Well, I have thoroughly enjoyed this. I think the show
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: is very juicy. You can watch it on Max or
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: ID Network. Quiet on set. It's four episodes. You're on.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: mostly in episode two or one, one. And, um, Christy,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: tell everybody where they can follow you and look for
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: your stuff. Great.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: Um, I am, I'm on Insta, Christy Stratton. I'm on Twitter,
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: but I don't really tweet. And I think I'm like,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: I don't even know where I am. Let's just stick
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: with the Instagram. Let's just Instagram. And I have a
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: short that is going to premiere at the Florida Film Festival,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: world premiere. And then I'm going to be, the short
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: is called The Runt. And it is a proof of concept.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: I want to make this movie. But I got into
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: an L.A. festival in the summer that I can't say.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: Until they give all the invites, they don't want you
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: to say because they don't want to, you know, whatever.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: But that's going to be in L.A. in the summertime.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: And so I'd love.
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  Speaker 1: Can you say what the short's about? Yes. Okay.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: Well, the film is about.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: Just say what the film would be about.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: Well, the Shoot the Duck is about a teen, a tween.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: And a single mom who all come of age one
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: night in a roller rink in 1979. And the short
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: is the tween story. I just pulled her story. And
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  Speaker 3: she has been labeled. She's a seventh grade starts on
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: Monday and it's Friday. And she has heard that eighth
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: grade girls have picked her to be the runt.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: And the runt means what? Like the dork? Right.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: Like someone that they make like sit on an egg
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: or like it's this ominous thing. Like you are the runt.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: And so she decides that she's going to skate with
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: a boy by the end of the night to prove
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: that she's mature and, you know, doesn't deserve their derision.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: So it's her quest to try to skate with a
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: boy by the end of the night is what the
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: short is.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: I think I would love that because I was roller
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: skating at the rinks in 1979, too.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's not many roller skating things, and it was
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: popular in people's lives.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: Certain people, not everybody, but.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: I love those those like little moments in time too
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: in history and all that well thank you so much
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: I loved catching up with you same girl same yeah
• 1:28:50
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