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90 Day Fiance S12 E6 When Two Worlds Collide · 90 Day Book Club

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SPEAKER_00: Hello again.
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SPEAKER_00: My name is Jen.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, and I'm back after a little hiatus, but I'm still here.
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SPEAKER_00: Why is this called the 90 Day Book Club?
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SPEAKER_00: I write under a romance pen name called Abby Knox K N O X.
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SPEAKER_00: I write mostly short, quick, fluffy, over-the-top, spicy, sweet romances.
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SPEAKER_00: And I love to talk about all things reality TV and what I'm reading.
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SPEAKER_00: Cuz, as my friends will tell me, I need to get used to promoting my books a little bit better.
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SPEAKER_00: But anyway, I'm a little bit behind, so I'm gonna get try to get caught up at least by a few episodes before we get the next one coming up this Sunday.
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SPEAKER_00: Let's get into season 12, episode 6 of 90-day fiance.
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SPEAKER_00: It is called When Two Worlds Collide.
1:31
SPEAKER_00: So Katie and Josh's apartment is an absolute mess.
1:35
SPEAKER_00: Um, they're unpacking, and I understand unpacking is a mess, but this is giving me anxiety.
1:41
SPEAKER_00: Things, underwear, shoes, books, whatever is everywhere.
1:47
SPEAKER_00: Um what's even worse is Josh does not understand Katie's love of cold pizza for breakfast.
1:56
SPEAKER_00: To that I say it's your loss, buddy.
2:00
SPEAKER_00: So it is still, if you can believe it, episode six, it's his first morning in the US.
2:07
SPEAKER_00: Or first morning in the new apartment.
2:09
SPEAKER_00: Uh he says sleeping on a twin bed was bad.
2:13
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
2:14
SPEAKER_00: Uh he says the garage door squeaks all night long.
2:18
SPEAKER_00: He says, because Americans love their cars, it happens all the time, and there's nothing you can do about it.
2:24
SPEAKER_00: So Katie comes home from I don't know, a run or walk or whatever, and he's cooking her breakfast because he doesn't want her eating cold pizza, apparently.
2:32
SPEAKER_00: And um, she's like, Why are you cooking so many eggs?
2:35
SPEAKER_00: Were they expensive?
2:37
SPEAKER_00: And this part was funny, he says, No, I got the cheapest eggs from the most unhappy chickens.
2:43
SPEAKER_00: So apparently they previously had a talk about how uh organic or cage-free eggs in America is actually not a real thing, despite what the package says.
2:54
SPEAKER_00: Uh, and all I have to say is, yes, Americans are often lied to blatantly on the packaging.
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SPEAKER_00: She says, all eggs in America are the same.
3:03
SPEAKER_00: Cage-free is a scam.
3:05
SPEAKER_00: He says, I asked, and they made sure to tell me these are unhappy chickens.
3:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, so this furniture discussion is driving me up the wall.
3:16
SPEAKER_00: Um, apparently he was not expecting the apartment to be unfurnished.
3:20
SPEAKER_00: I guess it's fairly common for apartments to be furnished in the UK.
3:25
SPEAKER_00: But then she's making this face at the camera when he's explaining about furnished UK apartments, and she sort of has this attitude, like, why would you expect it to be furnished?
3:36
SPEAKER_00: And it's not so much the question, but in my opinion, this is indicative of her lack of curiosity and interest in him and and consideration about how things are different, and he's just gonna take some time for him to get used to things.
3:50
SPEAKER_00: She seems unwilling to have a conversation in which she actually understands his point of view, which is gonna be a bigger problem as we go along.
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SPEAKER_00: Also, the problem is they're eating breakfast on a yoga mat.
4:05
SPEAKER_00: Why is everyone eating their food on the floor this season?
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SPEAKER_00: Yoga mats, yoga blocks.
4:11
SPEAKER_00: I cannot.
4:12
SPEAKER_00: He says he was like an he would like an iron and an ironing board.
4:16
SPEAKER_00: She's like, Why?
4:17
SPEAKER_00: He says, I like to iron my clothes.
4:20
SPEAKER_00: He would also like a dining table and chairs.
4:23
SPEAKER_00: She says, I don't think they're super important.
4:26
SPEAKER_00: And he's like, Do you enjoy this?
4:28
SPEAKER_00: This meaning eating on the floor.
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SPEAKER_00: She says, it's comfy.
4:32
SPEAKER_00: He says, it's hurting my back and it feels feral.
4:36
SPEAKER_00: Guy, my guy, you are engaged to a feral woman.
4:39
SPEAKER_00: And he says, Well, it's something I would like.
4:41
SPEAKER_00: And she says, Well, that's stupid.
4:43
SPEAKER_00: In his talking head, Josh says, I knew growing up that if I broke my arm and I could get it fixed and just go home, there's a safety net there.
4:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, and things are different in the US.
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SPEAKER_00: And so he understands her concerns about money, but he doesn't like to be micromanaged.
5:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, one major medical crisis in the US, and you could be homeless.
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SPEAKER_00: That is very scary.
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SPEAKER_00: So I understand her need to conserve money, and yet he's hurting.
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SPEAKER_00: Get the man some furniture.
5:13
SPEAKER_00: Um, also an ironing board.
5:14
SPEAKER_00: Okay, let me tell you something.
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SPEAKER_00: Do they have stores for habitat for humanity in other countries?
5:21
SPEAKER_00: In the U.S., we have Habitat for Humanity restores.
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SPEAKER_00: They're stores where you can shop for pretty much any kind of household goods.
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SPEAKER_00: And let me tell you, the one I just went to this morning, just this morning, had about 10 to 12 ironing boards.
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SPEAKER_00: And I live in a small town.
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SPEAKER_00: So you could probably get one of those for$5, Katie.
5:43
SPEAKER_00: Also, my understanding is Portland is full of good thrift stores.
5:47
SPEAKER_00: So why aren't they trying the thrift stores?
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SPEAKER_00: You can get really decent furniture for a starter home, starter apartment at Restore.
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SPEAKER_00: Now, my family hasn't always loved the things I brought home from Habitat Restore.
6:03
SPEAKER_00: But um, they serve a purpose.
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SPEAKER_00: They will they'll save your back.
6:08
SPEAKER_00: She says, Well, my friend offered us free furniture, so we should get that.
6:11
SPEAKER_00: And he says, Okay, but we also need to get on with life.
6:14
SPEAKER_00: So if it's not here right now, she calls him out on buying$400 sunglasses.
6:20
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I'm gonna judge him a little bit about that, but um he says, I'm not gonna sit here and be ashamed by you.
6:27
SPEAKER_00: I've been trusting after everything you've done with guys, and then you can't even trust me with finances.
6:33
SPEAKER_00: And she says, Well, you waste money all the time.
6:36
SPEAKER_00: He says, Well, I'm in pain and you're constantly angry about stupid stuff.
6:42
SPEAKER_00: I think it's great if Katie has a friend who's offering them free furniture, but how long is it gonna take her to get her executive function together to make it happen and get that furniture?
6:54
SPEAKER_00: And you want this man to move free furniture around with a bad back, just go get the free furniture and hire some move.
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SPEAKER_00: Ugh.
7:02
SPEAKER_00: You know what?
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SPEAKER_00: Some thrift stores, if you ask them, they might actually deliver to your house.
7:10
SPEAKER_00: Just saying.
7:10
SPEAKER_00: She tells him maybe you should stretch more or exercise more to address his back problems.
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SPEAKER_00: Girl, just get the man a chair.
7:20
SPEAKER_00: Get a cheap little love seat.
7:22
SPEAKER_00: You could probably get one for less than$50 right now, today.
7:29
SPEAKER_00: Josh says, I'm not gonna talk to you if you're going to be stupid.
7:34
SPEAKER_00: And this is where he's just stooping to her level of arguing and getting nowhere.
7:41
SPEAKER_00: You he is I'm sorry, he is seething with British rage.
7:48
SPEAKER_00: And that's about as loud and irrational as he's gonna get, but you can just see that he is seething underneath.
7:55
SPEAKER_00: I would be shrieking.
7:57
SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna be seething.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna be shrieking.
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SPEAKER_00: Give me a chair, give me something to sit on.
8:02
SPEAKER_00: My back hurts.
8:03
SPEAKER_00: Shut up.
8:04
SPEAKER_00: Let's go.
8:05
SPEAKER_00: I hate these furniture shopping scenes.
8:09
SPEAKER_00: There's always a furniture shopping scene.
8:11
SPEAKER_00: It's always the same trope.
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SPEAKER_00: One person doesn't want to spend any money and the other person wants everything in the store.
8:18
SPEAKER_00: And yet I will continue to watch it because I love to see the reaction of the salespeople who are usually a lot more um, shall we say, normal.
8:27
SPEAKER_00: Josh says in his talking head, she has a decent savings, and I have shares in the family company that is being sold.
8:36
SPEAKER_00: We're not destitute.
8:38
SPEAKER_00: This argument continues to go on when they're back in the car again.
8:42
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes these types of arguments are just noise, but sometimes the truth comes out and it's fascinating.
8:49
SPEAKER_00: Josh says, I'm the one who moved here, and I'm sorry that after having a really big holiday for a year or two, meaning her trip around the world, pet sitting and house sitting all over Europe, he says, I'm sorry you have to do a little bit of stuff.
9:06
SPEAKER_00: He says, He did all the immigration stuff, like the paperwork, I guess, and he paid for all of it.
9:14
SPEAKER_00: And he said, getting you to do any of the bits was like getting blood out of a stone.
9:22
SPEAKER_00: And then she says, The immigration stuff was your idea.
9:27
SPEAKER_00: I was not ready for that.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, what Josh says, Well, we talked about it, and you said you're okay.
9:36
SPEAKER_00: That's on you.
9:37
SPEAKER_00: And then she says, Yeah, kind of sullen.
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SPEAKER_00: What is going on here?
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SPEAKER_00: He paid for the immigration stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: It was his idea to immigrate.
9:49
SPEAKER_00: Josh says, Well, when you say stuff like that and you go on kissing whoever you want, I think you need to have a long hard think about whether marriage is the right thing for you.
10:00
SPEAKER_00: Because right now you're not being a reliable partner.
10:03
SPEAKER_00: And this is the most I've seen him stand up for himself.
10:07
SPEAKER_00: Oh, this is bad.
10:10
SPEAKER_00: This is bad.
10:12
SPEAKER_00: Let's move on to Mallory and Rosh.
10:17
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we're jumping back into the uh argument between Rosh and Brandy, also known as Brandon, but he calls him Brandy, so I'm gonna call him Brandy.
10:28
SPEAKER_00: Brandy's spitting on the ground while he and Rosh are having this disagreement because Rosh still wants him to delete Mallory's phone number and never contact her again because you know why not take it to an extreme?
10:44
SPEAKER_00: Brandy, meanwhile, is drinking out of a mason jar or something.
10:49
SPEAKER_00: They want us to think, I know producers want us to think he's drinking moonshine out of a mason jar, but it's probably root beer.
10:57
SPEAKER_00: Brandy's trying to explain he and Mallory have been friends before.
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SPEAKER_00: Rosh does not care, he's just not hearing it, just wants her to delete his her number.
11:06
SPEAKER_00: And Brandy's just repeating everything Rosh says.
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SPEAKER_00: This is going nowhere.
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SPEAKER_00: He's like, You want me to delete her number?
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SPEAKER_00: You want me to eliminate our friendship?
11:13
SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, dude, that's exactly what he just said.
11:18
SPEAKER_00: Brandy finally says, I think we can all see that is not going to happen.
11:24
SPEAKER_00: And my take brand Brandy is capable of respecting a relationship, and he's not gonna be a threat.
11:30
SPEAKER_00: So everybody just needs to take it down a notch.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, Brandy's like, you act like you have a choice in this, but you don't.
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SPEAKER_00: Rosh says, I am the boss in my house, she must listen to me.
11:42
SPEAKER_00: Rosh, stop it.
11:45
SPEAKER_00: Come on.
11:47
SPEAKER_00: You know what she's not gonna take that kind of attitude.
11:51
SPEAKER_00: That kind of man is the head of the household thing.
11:55
SPEAKER_00: That's Mallory's not gonna be down for that.
11:58
SPEAKER_00: Randy says, I'm like the government, me and taxes, we are here forever.
12:03
SPEAKER_00: And then he gets on his case for sitting on his tailgate.
12:09
SPEAKER_00: Now come at me.
12:11
SPEAKER_00: You can send me an email, you can contact me and tell me that I'm wrong, but I feel like this tailgate thing is complete bullshit.
12:19
SPEAKER_00: This is a man's truck, blah blah blah, respect the truck, blah, blah, blah.
12:22
SPEAKER_00: Even if it's a real thing that you're not supposed to sit on a man's tailgate uninvited, you were standing there with a tailgate down, which sort of looks like someone's invited to sit on it.
12:36
SPEAKER_00: You know, even if that is a real thing, this man gets a pass because he's from Turkey, does not understand truck culture.
12:42
SPEAKER_00: I think this goes the same though for Americans in general.
12:46
SPEAKER_00: We're very particular about our cars.
12:48
SPEAKER_00: You don't sit on the hood of my car, you don't lean on my car unless you and me are having a conversation next to my car.
12:58
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but whatever.
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SPEAKER_00: But then Rosh kind of does a little bit of a dick move and slams the tailgate shut and walks away.
13:07
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, I don't know.
13:09
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if I believe this fight.
13:11
SPEAKER_00: Just saying I don't know if I believe it.
13:14
SPEAKER_00: Debbie and Mito.
13:16
SPEAKER_00: Um, what do we say about Debbie and Mito?
13:19
SPEAKER_00: Except I hate everything about this relationship.
13:24
SPEAKER_00: She's making a chore list on a little dry erase board, and he walks up and starts erasing it.
13:32
SPEAKER_00: Excuse me?
13:33
SPEAKER_00: Oh hell no.
13:36
SPEAKER_00: She says, I'd like you to help with some of the dishes.
13:41
SPEAKER_00: Well, he can't help with the dishes because his precious baby hands.
13:45
SPEAKER_00: She's like, Will you take out the trash?
13:47
SPEAKER_00: He says, No.
13:48
SPEAKER_00: She says, You have to do something.
13:49
SPEAKER_00: He says, Okay, I will sleep.
13:51
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
13:54
SPEAKER_00: We'd have a big problem in me down.
13:56
SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, I never would have put up with somebody randomly kissing me on a tour while I'm in Egypt, paying for a tour guide to just show me around the pyramids of Giza or whatever.
14:09
SPEAKER_00: Like, no way.
14:10
SPEAKER_00: It would have been slapped and I'd probably complain.
14:14
SPEAKER_00: Or, you know, maybe not.
14:16
SPEAKER_00: Maybe I'd give him five stars, depending on who it was.
14:19
SPEAKER_00: Definitely not me, though.
14:21
SPEAKER_00: He and I would definitely be having a major discussion right now.
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SPEAKER_00: Not because of what he does want to do or not do around the house, but just the aggressive act of erasing while I'm writing something, I would lose my shit because that is so rude.
14:38
SPEAKER_00: Don't go mess with something I'm trying to do.
14:41
SPEAKER_00: Don't erase my lists.
14:44
SPEAKER_00: I like my lists, it helps me organize my brain.
14:48
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, he doesn't want to do shit around the house.
14:51
SPEAKER_00: I don't think anybody's surprised about that.
14:53
SPEAKER_00: Anyways, I mean, I don't even know what the fuck he's bringing to the table anyway.
14:57
SPEAKER_00: It's not big dick energy because she has not experienced that yet, has she?
15:03
SPEAKER_00: This is such a typical trope in 90 day.
15:06
SPEAKER_00: And honestly, Debbie should have seen it coming.
15:09
SPEAKER_00: American woman brings a man from a more traditional conservative culture to the US and expects him to change overnight.
15:16
SPEAKER_00: No, it will not happen overnight.
15:18
SPEAKER_00: It will take a lot of time, or just accept that you're gonna be doing all the housework and the cooking and whatever for the rest of your life.
15:26
SPEAKER_00: I don't think Debbie is down for that.
15:27
SPEAKER_00: She's getting up there closer and closer to retirement age.
15:32
SPEAKER_00: She's not gonna want to be doing all of this for him.
15:36
SPEAKER_00: Debbie needs to enjoy her life as a single person.
15:41
SPEAKER_00: Maybe just have a fling.
15:42
SPEAKER_00: This is what you need.
15:43
SPEAKER_00: You don't need to be married, just go have a fling.
15:46
SPEAKER_00: Enjoy your life.
15:49
SPEAKER_00: So Mito goes to his first acting class in the US.
15:53
SPEAKER_00: And we meet Jim.
15:54
SPEAKER_00: Jim is the superhero, the winner of the airport flowers of this episode.
16:00
SPEAKER_00: I haven't done airport flowers in a very, very, very long time.
16:05
SPEAKER_00: Not since before the 90 days, but I'm gonna give him all of the airport flowers because Jim is basically the only one in Meeto's life who's gonna tell it to him straight that his chances of making it in Hollywood are very slim.
16:21
SPEAKER_00: Jim explains it has to be a perfect storm of ability, cooperation, and opportunity.
16:31
SPEAKER_00: Notice the word cooperation.
16:38
SPEAKER_00: This is apparently a special exercise where you use a written dialogue with a partner to express emotion even though the words don't match the emotion that you're giving.
16:54
SPEAKER_00: So Mito goes up when it's his turn and says to Jim, Can I do something different?
16:59
SPEAKER_00: And poor Janice, his acting partner, is just standing there looking like what is with this guy.
17:08
SPEAKER_00: Jim says, Well, I would like for you to participate in the way we've been doing it.
17:13
SPEAKER_00: Um, Jim says in his talking head, you're here to participate in my class.
17:18
SPEAKER_00: On set, you do what the director says, or you're fired.
17:22
SPEAKER_00: I don't ask people to be perfect.
17:25
SPEAKER_00: Well, later on he says, I have to say, once he does what he's told, he's not bad.
17:29
SPEAKER_00: Also, by the way, I have to give props to Janice, who doesn't get enough screen time.
17:34
SPEAKER_00: She's actually pretty good, I think.
17:37
SPEAKER_00: He says if he had to give Meito a grade on the scene, it would be C.
17:43
SPEAKER_00: For emotional availability, he did very well, but there's room for improvement.
17:48
SPEAKER_00: Definitely room for improvement in being coachable.
17:52
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
17:54
SPEAKER_00: So they chat for a bit after the class.
17:56
SPEAKER_00: Jim seems like a more really interesting guy.
18:01
SPEAKER_00: Meeto is getting right down to business.
18:03
SPEAKER_00: Do you think I should leave New Orleans?
18:05
SPEAKER_00: He says, Jim says there's lots of people who work for a long time and never achieve A-list status.
18:12
SPEAKER_00: Or even B or Clist, honestly.
18:15
SPEAKER_00: Um He says, one thing I have had to do is survival jobs, waiting tables.
18:22
SPEAKER_00: Mito does not like that answer.
18:24
SPEAKER_00: He says, I think I deserve to do what I love.
18:27
SPEAKER_00: I love I deserve to do what is my passion.
18:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, Jim says, Well, was acting all you did in Egypt?
18:34
SPEAKER_00: He said, I did other things.
18:35
SPEAKER_00: You were a tour guide, we all saw that story.
18:40
SPEAKER_00: Jim says, the question becomes once you're married, is your wife going to be okay with you pursuing acting?
18:48
SPEAKER_00: At some point, you have to have a life priority.
18:53
SPEAKER_00: Mito says, if I work another job, it will take from my focus.
18:56
SPEAKER_00: I know Debbie will support me and she knows my passion.
19:02
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
19:03
SPEAKER_00: So later on that night, I'm not sure if it's the same night.
19:07
SPEAKER_00: Uh, worst Halloween costumes ever.
19:11
SPEAKER_00: Um, Debbie, I mean, she looks pretty, but Cleopatra, come on.
19:17
SPEAKER_00: And he's Mito, a random pharaoh guy.
19:23
SPEAKER_00: Um, so they're headed to a haunted house with her friends.
19:26
SPEAKER_00: Uh Mito says he's really excited as an actor.
19:29
SPEAKER_00: She's more excited about him experiencing Halloween and seeing kids dressed up and seeing people pass out candy.
19:38
SPEAKER_00: But she says, Are you nervous to meet my friends?
19:41
SPEAKER_00: Laura and Astra.
19:42
SPEAKER_00: He says, No.
19:43
SPEAKER_00: And Debbie's nervous because she says, they're gonna ask you questions, they want to know things.
19:50
SPEAKER_00: And he says, Well, if they want to know things, I will leave.
19:53
SPEAKER_00: He's just very blase about meeting her friends.
19:56
SPEAKER_00: It's not that he's not nervous, it's more disturbing that he's just uh so very whatever, just going through the motions.
20:06
SPEAKER_00: He's waiting so that he can showcase himself.
20:08
SPEAKER_00: That's all.
20:09
SPEAKER_00: Uh so then we meet Laura and her husband Jeff.
20:12
SPEAKER_00: Laura's dressed as a Rockford Peach, very cute.
20:15
SPEAKER_00: Astra's wearing uh, I guess kind of a goth girl outfit with cat ears.
20:21
SPEAKER_00: I don't really get it.
20:22
SPEAKER_00: So they go into the haunted house, and he has just got this creepy smile and is interacting with all of the actors and the everything in the haunted house, and Debbie's spooked.
20:35
SPEAKER_00: She's pretty freaked out, she does not like it.
20:38
SPEAKER_00: So here's my question: if the love of your life is freaking out a little bit and is scared in a haunted house, you're going to, at the very least, minimum effort, hold her hand, right?
20:56
SPEAKER_00: No, that we know that doesn't happen.
20:58
SPEAKER_00: He doesn't like her.
21:00
SPEAKER_00: Laura in her aside comment says she could tell something wasn't right when I first saw Debbie at the haunted house.
21:09
SPEAKER_00: They were not comforting each other.
21:12
SPEAKER_00: He was putting on an act the whole time.
21:16
SPEAKER_00: Like he was acting inside of a movie.
21:19
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
21:20
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
21:21
SPEAKER_00: Laura says, I hope he didn't come here for an acting career.
21:27
SPEAKER_00: Jeff goes home to the kids and lets his wife stay out with um Astra and Debbie.
21:34
SPEAKER_00: I have one of those.
21:35
SPEAKER_00: I have a Jeff.
21:36
SPEAKER_00: Not literally a Jeff, but my guy also likes to dip out early.
21:40
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes we leave together.
21:42
SPEAKER_00: Sometimes I get a ride home with friends, but yeah.
21:46
SPEAKER_00: Jeff wants to get away from the cameras desperately.
21:50
SPEAKER_00: Uh so they're driving to the next place.
21:52
SPEAKER_00: Mito is completely disassociating in the car.
21:56
SPEAKER_00: He's just on his phone.
21:58
SPEAKER_00: It was strange, and her friend.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: Clock that.
22:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, in the car, he's taken his mask off, I do believe.
22:05
SPEAKER_00: Debbie says, Once he converts into this personality, I don't try to talk to him.
22:10
SPEAKER_00: It gets ugly quick.
22:12
SPEAKER_00: I take ten steps back and let him wear himself out.
22:16
SPEAKER_00: She was embarrassed by his behavior in the car.
22:20
SPEAKER_00: Meanwhile, while she's outside having her side comment with producers, he's in the car flicking boogers around.
22:30
SPEAKER_00: It's absolutely disgusting.
22:34
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
22:35
SPEAKER_00: Um, so she's crying and uh upset about the way he's been behaving.
22:42
SPEAKER_00: Um he asks her why she's crying.
22:44
SPEAKER_00: She says, I'm frustrated.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: He says, I should be frustrated, not you.
22:49
SPEAKER_00: She says, We need to have a conversation.
22:52
SPEAKER_00: Why are you rude?
22:53
SPEAKER_00: He doesn't really try to understand why she's frustrated.
22:58
SPEAKER_00: He's just asking, What do you want?
22:59
SPEAKER_00: What do you want?
23:00
SPEAKER_00: She's like, Don't yell at me.
23:02
SPEAKER_00: Trying to have a conversation.
23:03
SPEAKER_00: He's like, What do you need?
23:05
SPEAKER_00: She says, I don't need a thing.
23:06
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what you're doing here because I don't think you love me.
23:11
SPEAKER_00: Mida says, Give me a flight and I will go.
23:13
SPEAKER_00: This is a pretty bad fight.
23:15
SPEAKER_00: Pretty bad fight.
23:16
SPEAKER_00: And then she screams at him, You can fuck that slut in Egypt, but you can't be compassionate with me.
23:25
SPEAKER_00: And then she exits the car, says, I'm done.
23:30
SPEAKER_00: Figure out what you got to do.
23:33
SPEAKER_00: Mito calls her a bitch and he gets out of the car.
23:36
SPEAKER_00: And they're continuing this argument outside.
23:39
SPEAKER_00: Um, he tells her to shut her mouth.
23:42
SPEAKER_00: Her friends step in and start yelling at him, you do not talk to women like that in America.
23:47
SPEAKER_00: We were waiting for that to come out, weren't we?
23:50
SPEAKER_00: She leaves him at the bar, he calls for an Uber.
23:55
SPEAKER_00: Friends are just standing there.
23:57
SPEAKER_00: It is it is pretty dark.
24:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this is he needs to go home.
24:03
SPEAKER_00: This is a mistake.
24:04
SPEAKER_00: He it is so clear he does not like her.
24:08
SPEAKER_00: If he even liked her a little bit, he would pretend to get to know her friends.
24:15
SPEAKER_00: He's not even pretending to play along for the camera.
24:21
SPEAKER_00: Ironically, he's not even playing that he's in love with her for the camera at all.
24:28
SPEAKER_00: Get me away from that man.
24:30
SPEAKER_00: Anyways, Shay and Annabelle.
24:33
SPEAKER_00: Next.
24:35
SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm digging the gothic country twangy music.
24:39
SPEAKER_00: Shay's feeding the dogs the milk bones.
24:42
SPEAKER_00: Anna's not talking to him, but she's uh very aggressively making the bed.
24:48
SPEAKER_00: I wish it was just one side of the bed, like Annalyn and before the 90 days with Jovon, but no, she makes the whole bed very aggressively.
24:57
SPEAKER_00: She walks right past him through the bedroom door, and he's like, Are you gonna talk to me?
25:03
SPEAKER_00: She's pissed.
25:04
SPEAKER_00: So she's still pissed about this conversation they had last night about how um you know he may have been inappropriate with other women.
25:12
SPEAKER_00: He's you know very clumsily trying to get ahead of the whole story that he knows she's gonna find out from Nicole at some point.
25:20
SPEAKER_00: So Annabelle's finally talking to him.
25:22
SPEAKER_00: She said, You said last night you didn't have sex with women, and he says, I haven't.
25:27
SPEAKER_00: She says, So what did you do?
25:29
SPEAKER_00: He says, I mean, just like some other stuff I don't remember, and I hear about it later.
25:35
SPEAKER_00: One thing I do remember a month ago, I guess I drank too much, and this girl was there with fake breasts, and I asked to look at him.
25:42
SPEAKER_00: I was just being a smart ass.
25:44
SPEAKER_00: She said, Did you touch them?
25:46
SPEAKER_00: He says, I didn't touch them, baby.
25:48
SPEAKER_00: He says, it went further than what I anticipated, but you gotta understand, these are the parties, the lifestyle that the lifestyle that we do, you're overreacting a little bit, baby.
25:59
SPEAKER_00: She says, What do you mean overreacting?
26:01
SPEAKER_00: You're ch you cheated on me.
26:03
SPEAKER_00: He says, I'm not cheating, baby.
26:04
SPEAKER_00: I explained it.
26:05
SPEAKER_00: And she's like, Well, it hurt my feelings.
26:08
SPEAKER_00: He says, I apologize, but I don't feel like it was cheating.
26:12
SPEAKER_00: Oh.
26:13
SPEAKER_00: He looks like every person who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
26:19
SPEAKER_00: So he wants to fix this by arranging for her to go to a spa day with Angie and Alison.
26:25
SPEAKER_00: Annabelle does not want to go on a spa day with Angie and Allison.
26:31
SPEAKER_00: Annabelle says, Do you think it's normal to go to the spa with people you don't like?
26:36
SPEAKER_00: No, it's not.
26:37
SPEAKER_00: But she says, Maybe if I go, I get answers.
26:40
unknown: Mm-hmm.
26:41
SPEAKER_00: The subtitles are giving so much shade.
26:44
SPEAKER_00: The subtitles.
26:46
SPEAKER_00: When they get out of the truck, and Shay's getting out of the truck, it says grunts and effort.
26:53
SPEAKER_00: Oh, you know what?
26:54
SPEAKER_00: I grunt and effort too.
26:57
SPEAKER_00: Thank goodness I don't have subtitles.
26:59
SPEAKER_00: I just have kids too.
27:02
SPEAKER_00: Roast me everywhere I go.
27:04
SPEAKER_00: Angie comes up and hugs Annabelle.
27:09
SPEAKER_00: And Annabelle, we get a shot of her rolling her eyes.
27:13
SPEAKER_00: Well, Angie's hugging her.
27:17
SPEAKER_00: She straight up says, I don't like her in the talking head.
27:22
SPEAKER_00: Uh, so the women proceed to have an awkward conversation.
27:26
SPEAKER_00: Allison asks Annabelle what's wrong.
27:29
SPEAKER_00: She said we had a conversation about Angie and about what Nicole said.
27:34
SPEAKER_00: And she says, Angie, is that true?
27:37
SPEAKER_00: Are you having an affair with my future husband?
27:41
SPEAKER_00: Straight to her face, straight to the source.
27:44
SPEAKER_00: Angie says it's not true.
27:45
SPEAKER_00: She said, Did you kiss him?
27:47
SPEAKER_00: She says, No.
27:48
SPEAKER_00: There's nothing between Shay and I.
27:50
SPEAKER_00: We're just friends.
27:52
SPEAKER_00: Angie, I have to give her credit in her talking head.
27:55
SPEAKER_00: She's very compassionate with Annabelle.
27:58
SPEAKER_00: Annabelle doesn't know what to believe.
28:00
SPEAKER_00: I couldn't imagine questions going through her head.
28:03
SPEAKER_00: She probably wonders if she should go home.
28:05
SPEAKER_00: Um, based on her body language in the moment, I think she's telling the truth.
28:12
SPEAKER_00: Now, I could come to regret this later because, you know, as you may know, if you've been listening to this podcast since the beginning, it's really hard for me to spot red flag.
28:23
SPEAKER_00: So I, you know, Angie could be lying.
28:26
SPEAKER_00: Meanwhile, where is Nicole?
28:28
SPEAKER_00: We met her in what episode one or two, and she has yet to surface again on this show.
28:34
SPEAKER_00: It's only been Shay trying to get ahead of her story, and instead blowing everything up with his bumbling, Annabelle says to Allison, Do you know your dad told me last that last month he cheated on me?
28:49
SPEAKER_00: I don't know with who, but he said he kissed a woman and asked someone to show her new boobs to him.
28:56
SPEAKER_00: Once again, these women seem genuinely surprised.
29:00
SPEAKER_00: I think they get a B plus from the acting coach Jim.
29:04
SPEAKER_00: But I I don't actually think that they're surprised.
29:07
SPEAKER_00: Allison says he doesn't have a great track record, but I've never seen him talk about anyone the way he talks about you.
29:18
SPEAKER_00: Angie says, Now that you're here, he'll prove that he's ready to make the commitment.
29:26
SPEAKER_00: Um So I guess they're all lying because Alison says in her talking head later, I thought I was gonna be the bearer of bad news.
29:35
SPEAKER_00: I'm I've sat behind the phone and watched him lie for years.
29:42
SPEAKER_00: The gasp.
29:44
SPEAKER_00: The gasp that I gasped.
29:46
SPEAKER_00: Alison says he told her a little bit of it, but Nicole has a lot more to say.
29:52
SPEAKER_00: Where is Nicole?
29:54
SPEAKER_00: Annabelle says, Is there anything else I'm gonna find out?
29:58
SPEAKER_00: Alison says, Can I have another drink?
30:00
SPEAKER_00: Because this is a lot.
30:03
SPEAKER_00: Oh boy, I think there's a lot.
30:05
SPEAKER_00: Annabelle doesn't know.
30:08
SPEAKER_00: Moving on to Marissa and Edward.
30:12
SPEAKER_00: Oh boy.
30:13
SPEAKER_00: This is this woman is making me crazy.
30:17
SPEAKER_00: Edward is talking on the phone to someone back home, having some kind of sweet interaction in Spanish.
30:26
SPEAKER_00: He's checking on his people.
30:28
SPEAKER_00: Marissa is in the kitchen and the noise from the FaceTime call is making her crazy.
30:33
SPEAKER_00: And she's like, why don't you just text them?
30:37
SPEAKER_00: Why does everything have to be a video call and speaker?
30:41
SPEAKER_00: Edward says, Dominicans are loud and we need to see people.
30:46
SPEAKER_00: It's okay, this scene is played off as a cute moment of banter between the two, but and it's a really small moment, but it really made me sad.
30:55
SPEAKER_00: He's in his house.
30:58
SPEAKER_00: You've said it's our house.
30:59
SPEAKER_00: He's in his house.
31:02
SPEAKER_00: You're not trying to watch TV, you're not trying to listen to music.
31:06
SPEAKER_00: You chose to have this open layout of your house so you can see and hear everything going on in the living room while you're cooking.
31:13
SPEAKER_00: The answer to this, Marissa, is put your headphones in and let him have his conversation.
31:21
SPEAKER_00: Imagine being in another country and you're in your home and you just want to check on your people back home.
31:29
SPEAKER_00: And you should be able to do that in your own house.
31:33
SPEAKER_00: But I don't really think Marissa's at the point where she's accepting that this is his house.
31:39
SPEAKER_00: This is his haven, even though she says it is.
31:57
SPEAKER_00: He plays a little game with them, it says, you know, choose a hand, and ends up giving them each a$50 bill.
32:05
SPEAKER_00: Cole is all about it.
32:07
SPEAKER_00: Give me the money.
32:08
SPEAKER_00: Derek is weirded out.
32:10
SPEAKER_00: He says, I don't need it.
32:11
SPEAKER_00: He does not want to accept this$50 bill.
32:14
SPEAKER_00: Meanwhile, Marissa's watching this interaction like a hawk.
32:18
SPEAKER_00: She's telling Derek, you have to be gracious about it.
32:22
SPEAKER_00: Derek says, I don't like taking money from people.
32:25
SPEAKER_00: I feel like I feel weird when I lose money, and I don't want other people to feel like that.
32:31
SPEAKER_00: I think Derek is a sensitive little kid.
32:35
SPEAKER_00: I don't think he was trying to be rude.
32:38
SPEAKER_00: But, anyways, the next day, Edward is in the kitchen arm wrestling with Cole.
32:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, so I I like that he's trying to connect with the kids and just be playful.
32:50
SPEAKER_00: And I don't know, I think it's good.
32:52
SPEAKER_00: Mersa is, of course, rolling her eyes about it and shaking her head.
32:56
SPEAKER_00: Of course.
32:57
SPEAKER_00: Because you can't do anything right.
32:58
SPEAKER_00: So she's getting the kids ready for football camp.
33:02
SPEAKER_00: Kids, get your shoes on, do this, get your water bottles, you know, the whole routine.
33:07
SPEAKER_00: She says, My mornings with the boys are fast paced.
33:11
SPEAKER_00: Edward needs to be more aware of his surroundings instead of scrolling on his phone.
33:17
SPEAKER_00: Okay, but you gotta be specific in my experience.
33:22
SPEAKER_00: Later, they get in the car and he has to sit in the back.
33:27
SPEAKER_00: Because Derek doesn't let anybody sit in the front, uh, which is a problem.
33:32
SPEAKER_00: No, Marissa, you need to be a mom at some point and say, No, Derek, you have to sit in the back because Edward is an adult and he sits in the front with me.
33:41
SPEAKER_00: I don't like this.
33:42
SPEAKER_00: I don't like the way she handled this.
33:44
SPEAKER_00: So they're driving in the car and she says, I heard a lot of wrestling last night.
33:48
SPEAKER_00: And we come to find out Edward was sort of wrestling with the boys and throwing them around on the bed.
33:56
SPEAKER_00: And she's not happy about that.
33:58
SPEAKER_00: Derek says, Mom, you're being a party pooper.
34:01
SPEAKER_00: And she says someone has to be the mom around here.
34:05
SPEAKER_00: Uh-oh.
34:06
SPEAKER_00: So after they drop the kids off, they have a conversation about everything.
34:11
SPEAKER_00: Marissa says she feels irritated about Edward being on his phone all the time and not present.
34:20
SPEAKER_00: And she says, I know you're not gonna like this, but I feel like I have another kid.
34:26
SPEAKER_00: Edward has a good point in his talking head.
34:28
SPEAKER_00: He says, Don't assume I'm gonna know what you need.
34:30
SPEAKER_00: Teach me first, let me learn.
34:32
SPEAKER_00: This is a classic problem in relationships.
34:37
SPEAKER_00: Um, your partner cannot read your mind.
34:41
SPEAKER_00: You can't just say, help me get the kids ready.
34:43
SPEAKER_00: You have to say, hey, can you grab a Ziploc bag and throw some protein bars and pretzels or whatever into the boys' backpacks?
34:50
SPEAKER_00: It takes a lot of words to say that.
34:52
SPEAKER_00: I get it.
34:53
SPEAKER_00: And in your when you're in a hurry, as a woman of a certain age, it is so hard to get all these very specific words out when you're busy and you delegate, but you have to do it or they won't know what you want.
35:08
SPEAKER_00: Bottom line, just say it or write it down.
35:11
SPEAKER_00: For me, I write down exactly what I need everybody to do in the kitchen to help me clean at night.
35:19
SPEAKER_00: I write down how the kitchen needs to be clean, how the bathroom needs to be cleaned.
35:25
SPEAKER_00: I have steps.
35:26
SPEAKER_00: The steps help me mentally take everything piece by piece and get it done.
35:31
SPEAKER_00: If you have a mental system in place, that's great.
35:34
SPEAKER_00: You know Marissa is a woman with systems.
35:37
SPEAKER_00: You know she's got systems.
35:40
SPEAKER_00: But you have to explain the system.
35:43
SPEAKER_00: Write it down for Edward and translate it into Spanish so he understands your systems.
35:49
SPEAKER_00: Marissa says, in the past I've struggled with voicing my frustrations in a relationship.
35:55
SPEAKER_00: If I don't say it now, it's going to fester, and one day I'll explode and it's not pretty.
36:00
SPEAKER_00: Oh girl, it's already not pretty.
36:04
SPEAKER_00: Let's move on to Thomas and Paola.
36:08
SPEAKER_00: They're bearing very cute, cuddling in the bed.
36:11
SPEAKER_00: Um, but now they have to actually eat food together, this vegan and this man who has a plethora of health issues.
36:20
SPEAKER_00: It ends up being pretty cute because he cooks for her and then she cooks for him.
36:26
SPEAKER_00: He calls it inefficient, but actually it's very loving, I think.
36:31
SPEAKER_00: He cooks her tofu mushroom toast.
36:34
SPEAKER_00: Um, and then she cooks his eggs and beef tallow.
36:40
SPEAKER_00: And um, okay.
36:42
SPEAKER_00: Oh, by the way, he's been diagnosed with Crohn's disease.
36:46
SPEAKER_00: He has ulcers and has stomach lining.
36:48
SPEAKER_00: He says rice-based meals or red meat is ideal.
36:52
SPEAKER_00: He can't give up meat.
36:53
SPEAKER_00: He's basically paleo because of all his health issues.
36:56
SPEAKER_00: But he gets her a respirator, like a construction worker respirator mask, so she can cook his meat.
37:04
SPEAKER_00: And I think this is a very loving thing to do.
37:07
SPEAKER_00: He says it's like really over the top, all these precautions she's taking because she doesn't want to breathe in, you know, the smell of meat cooking.
37:15
SPEAKER_00: But I think this is I think it's a very loving thing to do.
37:21
SPEAKER_00: She says, I'm willing to make a sacrifice because of your condition.
37:24
SPEAKER_00: Why can't you make compromise for me?
37:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, let's talk about this table.
37:31
SPEAKER_00: This little miniature table, they're sitting down to breakfast.
37:35
SPEAKER_00: He's making her sit down on the stupid yoga blocks.
37:39
SPEAKER_00: She says, Is this breakfast or Kama Sutra?
37:43
SPEAKER_00: Oh, but she's a good sport about it.
37:46
SPEAKER_00: She does complain, as I would, as one should, because this is extreme minimalism, and I hate it.
37:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, but she says, before we eat, we have to say thanks first.
37:59
SPEAKER_00: And it's actually really sweet.
38:01
SPEAKER_00: She gets really teared up, and she says, we make our dreams come true every day, not being in this silly position here on the floor, but being here is a dream for me.
38:13
SPEAKER_00: She says she's been manifesting this for so long.
38:17
SPEAKER_00: Um, she says Thomas is super picky and spoiled, but stubborn.
38:22
SPEAKER_00: But I'm grateful for everything we're building.
38:25
SPEAKER_00: Um, she eats the breakfast.
38:28
SPEAKER_00: It tells him that you cook so bad.
38:31
SPEAKER_00: Universe, give me strength to deal with this guy, please.
38:35
SPEAKER_00: Oh, she is most definitely in the running for being my favorite person this season.
38:39
SPEAKER_00: Tied for first.
38:41
SPEAKER_00: Paula, Annabelle, and Edward.
38:44
SPEAKER_00: Uh later on, she's putting on her makeup, and Thomas is freaking out, walking through the apartment, going out onto the balcony.
38:54
SPEAKER_00: So she explains she put on two drops of perfume from this tiny little bottle, and Thomas in his powerful nose freaked out.
39:04
SPEAKER_00: Mind you, this is her first day.
39:08
SPEAKER_00: He is repelled by the idea of perfume.
39:11
SPEAKER_00: He says he's having an allergic reaction.
39:14
SPEAKER_00: She says, I didn't spray anything, I put two drops on.
39:19
SPEAKER_00: He says, Why don't you buy perfume I'm not allergic to?
39:23
SPEAKER_00: She says, You're allergic to anti-I think it's anti-allergenic perfume.
39:31
SPEAKER_00: So I don't know what I'm gonna wear.
39:33
SPEAKER_00: Maybe vinegar.
39:35
SPEAKER_00: He says, I love the way you smell naturally without perfume.
39:39
SPEAKER_00: She explains it's part of our culture to smell good.
39:42
SPEAKER_00: Everybody likes to wear perfume in Brazil.
39:45
SPEAKER_00: Thomas tells her in Portuguese that she's being very dramatic.
39:50
SPEAKER_00: Um, hello pot.
39:52
SPEAKER_00: Meet the kettle.
39:55
SPEAKER_00: Um, she's kind of sarcastic with him and says, Well, you have such a superpower with your nose.
40:00
SPEAKER_00: You should be studied.
40:03
SPEAKER_00: Uh, he says, I'm not flattered and I don't think it's funny.
40:07
SPEAKER_00: So this argument is super unproductive.
40:09
SPEAKER_00: He's being dramatic and loud, she's being sarcastic.
40:13
SPEAKER_00: And then he goes to another level.
40:16
SPEAKER_00: He says, I want you to throw it away, the perfume.
40:19
SPEAKER_00: She says, No.
40:20
SPEAKER_00: He says, Where is it?
40:21
SPEAKER_00: I want to throw it out.
40:22
SPEAKER_00: She says, No.
40:23
SPEAKER_00: This could be a nice gift for someone, it's very expensive.
40:26
SPEAKER_00: So she's already making a concession.
40:29
SPEAKER_00: Like she's willing to get rid of the perfume and give it to somebody.
40:32
SPEAKER_00: But no, he goes and gets the perfume bottle and super glues it shut.
40:39
SPEAKER_00: He says that bottle can't be opened in the house.
40:43
SPEAKER_00: And she's being very calm.
40:46
SPEAKER_00: She is being way more calm than I would.
40:48
SPEAKER_00: Um, I would be unhinged if you're gonna go and destroy my property, which is basically what he does.
40:57
SPEAKER_00: I don't think she's upset enough.
41:01
SPEAKER_00: Oh, anyways.
41:03
SPEAKER_00: Next time, Paola gets a credit card.
41:07
SPEAKER_00: Uh Marissa's horrible family gets to meet Edward.
41:11
SPEAKER_00: Maxwell's family does not approve of Aisha's plans to make over Maxwell and change his eyes.
41:18
SPEAKER_00: Uh, Mallory and Rashit continue to argue about brandy.
41:23
SPEAKER_00: Katie drops a bomb that she invited some guy named Ryan to her birthday party who she hooked up with in Europe and Josh hates.
41:32
SPEAKER_00: What have I been writing?
41:34
SPEAKER_00: Well, last week I just published a book called Unmoored, How to Fail at Hating the Boss.
41:44
SPEAKER_00: It's now live in Kindle Limited.
41:46
SPEAKER_00: It's really funny, it's very spicy.
41:49
SPEAKER_00: Um, it's real short.
41:51
SPEAKER_00: Go read it if you need something real short, real spicy, real fun, low stakes, no third act breakup, no dark night of the soul.
42:00
SPEAKER_00: These are not complicated books, people.
42:02
SPEAKER_00: These are pretty straightforward.
42:05
SPEAKER_00: Straightforward romance, little treats, that's what I write.
42:10
SPEAKER_00: If you don't like explicit sex scenes, these are not for you.
42:14
SPEAKER_00: If you do like explicit sex scenes, open door and romance is also called open door, and you don't care for fade to plaque, if you don't care for a lot of flowery euphemisms for sex and genitalia, and I see you.
42:34
SPEAKER_00: I got you.
42:35
SPEAKER_00: I got good old dirty talk.
42:38
SPEAKER_00: I have to say, it's pretty good.
42:40
SPEAKER_00: Grumpy Sunshine, small town.
42:42
SPEAKER_00: Um, it's really cute.
42:44
SPEAKER_00: She's a teacher who's uh looking for a summer job, and he runs a marina at the lake um near just outside of town, and um he's sort of a controlling grump of a boss who's very critical, but really secretly very protective of her, and um, but of course, in the end, she is revealed to like have major skills that he wasn't expecting, and um yeah, so I I kind of love it when the woman is underestimated, and so that is it, and that by the way, is book seven in the current series, so go check it out.
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SPEAKER_00: It's on Amazon Unmoored How to Fail at Hating the Boss by Abby Knox.
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SPEAKER_00: It's real cute, you should read it.
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SPEAKER_00: You might like it.
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SPEAKER_00: I think you will.
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SPEAKER_00: What else is happening?
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SPEAKER_00: What I'm reading, okay, guys, shifting gears in a major way.
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SPEAKER_00: I just read yesteryear.
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SPEAKER_00: I know, I know everybody has read yesteryear, but let me tell you something.
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SPEAKER_00: I read The Sucker in two days.
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SPEAKER_00: Now, a lot of those two days I was house sitting for my friend, and I was sitting in a pool float with my diet coke living dangerously with a hardcover book in the pool.
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SPEAKER_00: But it was amazing.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, I read that book until my feet were completely pruned from the water.
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SPEAKER_00: It's about, if you don't know, a trad wife influencer who somehow goes back in time and actually has to live in the 1800s.
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SPEAKER_00: And I don't want to spoil anything, but the big reveal I did not see coming.
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SPEAKER_00: What I also did not see coming was I thought it was all her being fake.
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SPEAKER_00: I thought the tradwave thing was not really like the religious stuff was not really in her heart.
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SPEAKER_00: I thought that was all gonna be performative, but she's got some major religious trauma that's unaddressed, and um, so I found that in particular really fascinating.
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SPEAKER_00: So, anyways, I've also heard this is gonna be a movie starring Anne Hathaway, and I personally cannot wait.
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SPEAKER_00: So, go read that book.
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SPEAKER_00: I know it's on the bestseller list for like I don't know, many, many weeks.
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SPEAKER_00: Everybody's reading it, everybody's talking about it, but to me, five stars, it was worth it's worth the hype, in my personal opinion.
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SPEAKER_00: If you don't like a lot of time jumping and you don't like uh really short chapters, it maybe it's not for you.
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SPEAKER_00: But I personally really liked the time jumping.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it really fleshed out exactly how she came to make the decisions that she did, and I really hesitate to say anymore because I think if I say anymore, it'll really spoil everything.
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SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, it was real good, real good.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's the show, everyone.
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SPEAKER_00: You can find links to my books in the show notes.
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SPEAKER_00: I got a lot of books in my catalogs.
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SPEAKER_00: I got a lot of books in my catalog, a lot of little series.
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SPEAKER_00: Do you not know where to start?
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SPEAKER_00: Go just pick any one of my series and start reading with book one.
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SPEAKER_00: Any of them.
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SPEAKER_00: You won't be sorry.
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SPEAKER_00: Or maybe you will.
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SPEAKER_00: Thanks so much for listening.
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SPEAKER_00: Please take care of yourselves, and I promise to take care of myself, and I'll speak to you again very soon.