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Bucky: Mental toughness key vs. Ravens | Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks: Wednesday, November 23 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: The fields on the group proudly presents Huddle Up with
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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. J P. Shacker, John Ojan and NFL Network
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Speaker 1: analyst and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks bring you the latest
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Speaker 1: on George Jackson Hill Jaguars. Everything's got to be about
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Speaker 1: the future. It's got to be about tomorrow and bringing
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Speaker 1: all that into focus as we, you know, attack the season.
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Speaker 1: Huddle Up with Brooks starts right now and welcome in.
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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, it is Thanksgiving Eve, and it's Huddle
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Speaker 1: Up with Bucky Brooks. We've got a busy show ahead
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Speaker 1: of course. NFL Network analyst Bucky Brooks joining us from
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Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Senior writer John Ozer joining us from this
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Speaker 1: desk about six ft away from me. The Ravens and
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars coming up in week twelve. The Ravens at
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Speaker 1: seven and three first place in the a f C North,
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars three and seventh, third place in the a
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Speaker 1: f C South. We'll go to social media. A couple
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Speaker 1: of questions today, people getting ready for the holiday tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: But the Jaguars back on the practice field today. They
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Speaker 1: were on Monday as well, coming off the bye week.
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Speaker 1: John with me here Bucky out in LA. What's up? Buck?
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Speaker 1: Good afternoons? That was so we had to bye week,
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Speaker 1: had a week off. Now I'm back. I'm refreshed. I'm
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Speaker 1: ready to see what the Jaguars got cooking up. Down
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Speaker 1: to stretch. All right, you're refreshed and ready, John, Are
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Speaker 1: you're refreshed and ready? I'm ready. You're not refreshed. You
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Speaker 1: never refreshed. Well, nothing's changed. That's that's the weekly routine.
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Speaker 1: That give me, tell me something new. Yeah, welcome to
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Speaker 1: Wednesday's John, I think. Hey, uh so, let's hear from
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson today. There's there's seven games left. We just
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Speaker 1: saw the record there, of course, seven and three, and
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Speaker 1: many are saying, oh, the Jags are done. They're cooked,
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Speaker 1: it's over. Forget it. They're not mathematically done. And for
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Speaker 1: head coach Doug Peterson, that has to be a mindset.
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Speaker 1: You're alive until you're not. You know, I'm encouraged by
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Speaker 1: the attitude of the team. Um, I think they're in
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Speaker 1: the right frame of mind and anything's possible. You know,
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Speaker 1: I've seen it, I've experienced it in this league. You know,
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Speaker 1: you get a little you get a little luck on
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Speaker 1: your side, you know, the ball bounces your way, and
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Speaker 1: anything's possible, you know. But we're just taking it one
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Speaker 1: game at a time right now, and we're focused on Baltimore.
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Speaker 1: One game at a time. It's all you can do.
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Speaker 1: You can't win on seven unless you win the first one, Bucky,
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Speaker 1: and uh that starts this week against the Ravens. But
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Speaker 1: that has to be the mindset, right of a competitor.
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Speaker 1: You're in it until you're mathematically out. Yeah, you're into
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Speaker 1: your mathematically out of it. And I think, uh for
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Speaker 1: Jaguars man is like I always go back to the
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Speaker 1: way we were sitting back in ninety six. Whe're three
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Speaker 1: and six or whatever we were before we went on
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Speaker 1: a run. And what it takes is like really kind
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Speaker 1: of stack him up one game at a time. What
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Speaker 1: you're hoping is that you can play well enough in
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Speaker 1: a game to begin to build some momentum and some belief,
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Speaker 1: some belief that you can't go on a run. And
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Speaker 1: so as Doug Peterson is talking about a we're in
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Speaker 1: it too, we're not. That's a big part of it.
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Speaker 1: And so you want to keep playing. You want the
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Speaker 1: guys to keep practicing as if there's an o raginity
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Speaker 1: and look, it is, and it would take some things
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Speaker 1: to go your way. But what you want to do
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Speaker 1: is control to things that you can control, and the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars certainly can't control their preparation and their performance, and
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Speaker 1: so you put all your eggs in that basket and
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Speaker 1: just kind of see what happens after that. I kind
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Speaker 1: of look at the rest of the season like this,
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Speaker 1: Bucky and JP. Um, they have seven left. It would
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Speaker 1: not shock me individually if they want any of them.
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Speaker 1: Meaning yeah, I think they're gonna be in in all
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Speaker 1: of them. I think they're going to upset one or
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Speaker 1: two teams that a lot of fans are saying, Oh,
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Speaker 1: there's no way they could beat X. You know what
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Speaker 1: I was saying, whether can't beat Dallas, can't beat the
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Speaker 1: Ravens teams winning records. I think they'll get a couple
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Speaker 1: of those. Um, what I don't know about this team
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Speaker 1: is are they good enough in close games to get
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Speaker 1: five or six of them? I mean, you know, it
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Speaker 1: still feels like that is a little bit of a
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Speaker 1: coin flip. So if you flip a coin, you're probably
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Speaker 1: going three and four or four and three. That's probably
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Speaker 1: about their limit. Um. The other thing that you know,
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Speaker 1: don't take this the wrong way, Bucky, but that nineties
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Speaker 1: six team I covered it really good when they got
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Speaker 1: to the playoffs. Those last five games they played that
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Speaker 1: year were against teams that were struggling. Jaguars have a
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Speaker 1: little bit more of a of a tough road if
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Speaker 1: they're going to try to do that, because you've got Baltimore, uh, Dallas,
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Speaker 1: the Jets Tennessee twice who were playing for something and
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Speaker 1: need it. So it's a tough road. But I think
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Speaker 1: they're going to be better, and I think they're gonna
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Speaker 1: get to that people don't expect, and I think that
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Speaker 1: would make people feel good going into the off season. Interesting. Look,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's that's a very valid point. No,
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Speaker 1: we certainly, I would say, gave away the games on
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Speaker 1: the schedule that might have been marked down as winnable
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Speaker 1: games early. Right, you give away a game to Uston
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Speaker 1: Texas no disrespect, even though they have an a game
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Speaker 1: winning streak over US. Uh. You think about some of
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Speaker 1: the other games that our potential snatchers, like in terms
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Speaker 1: of the Washington Commanders. But so you can't get those
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Speaker 1: games back. But what you can do is hope to
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Speaker 1: put yourself in a position to win those games. We
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Speaker 1: have seen this team play well at times against solid
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Speaker 1: teams and maybe disappointed. I think the main thing that
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Speaker 1: you want to finish the season with is you want
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Speaker 1: to finish the season with a clear sense of who
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Speaker 1: you are from an identity standpoint, what's our style of play,
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Speaker 1: how do we get after it on both sides of
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Speaker 1: the ball, and where can we kind of continue to
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Speaker 1: build to make sure that we're always playing to the brand?
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Speaker 1: And so as Doug Peterson talks about making sure that
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Speaker 1: the team kind of plays the right way, playing the
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Speaker 1: right way, it's making sure you're playing to the standard
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Speaker 1: in the brand so you now can fill into pieces
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Speaker 1: next year in the off season via free agency or
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Speaker 1: the draft. Don't you feel Bucky like uh you mentioned
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Speaker 1: uh establish an identity and and fegaring how you're how
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Speaker 1: you're gonna play. Don't you feel like through ten weeks
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Speaker 1: they've made a dramatic stride with that Offensively, I feel
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Speaker 1: like I know what Doug wants to be and what
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Speaker 1: this team wants to be. And yes there's been a
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Speaker 1: few red zone uh snaff foos that have sort of
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Speaker 1: curtailed them having a chance to win but the offense
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Speaker 1: is moved the vault. I feel comfortable this is a
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Speaker 1: good offense now. I feel comfortable that it's going to
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Speaker 1: continue to be productive, that the red zone will get
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Speaker 1: worked out. As Trevor Gaines experience. To me, that all
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Speaker 1: seems on the right track. And I kind of wonder
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Speaker 1: if if defensively, if maybe they're not missing a piece
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Speaker 1: or two that will make it difficult to establish it.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure as anybody's fault. It's just sort of
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Speaker 1: where they are right now, and you have a better
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Speaker 1: chance to do that next year. Maybe I'm maybe I'm
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Speaker 1: missing something. No, you have' missing anything. I think. I
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Speaker 1: think it's very very clear and apparent that the team
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Speaker 1: missing some pieces defensively to a novel to play the
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Speaker 1: way that they I think want to play right now. Um,
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Speaker 1: you're in a bit of a conundramat in the second
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Speaker 1: because if you want to play man to man, you
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Speaker 1: don't appear to have the athleticism and speed to do
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Speaker 1: that on a full time basis. If you want to
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Speaker 1: play zone, it doesn't appear that you have enough guys
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Speaker 1: with the toolboxes necessary to play his zone coverage, meaning
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Speaker 1: whether it's their footwork or whether it's their i Q
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Speaker 1: and in terms of like football i HUM, in terms
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Speaker 1: of situational awareness, reading and diagnosing and those things, you
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Speaker 1: don't appear to have all of that. And so as
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Speaker 1: you get into these off season meetings and you're the
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinated, defensive staff is talking about what they ideally
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Speaker 1: want at the position, maybe in this offseason you can
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Speaker 1: get players that more match the style of play that
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Speaker 1: you envision. A lot of season left though, before we
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Speaker 1: get down that pass, still some time to figure all
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Speaker 1: of that out. With seven games to go, we're back
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Speaker 1: in a moment and we'll get into the next game
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Speaker 1: ahead on the schedule of Baltimore Ravens come to town.
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Speaker 1: with Bucky Brooks on the Jaguars Digital Network. You just
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Speaker 1: hope to slowing down. Honestly, Um, have gone against him
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Speaker 1: before and and you know he definitely can beat you
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Speaker 1: both running and throwing. And you just gotta be you know,
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Speaker 1: you gotta be committed to the discipline of your job.
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Speaker 1: And and you know it just comes down to that.
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Speaker 1: And obviously you gotta win your matchups, you know on
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Speaker 1: defense and um, you can't let uh, you know, you
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Speaker 1: can't let your eyes wander. You gotta be disciplined there.
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Speaker 1: And and you just like I said, you just hope
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Speaker 1: to contain. You know, he's gonna make his plays. He's
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Speaker 1: he's that good and um, but you know when you
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Speaker 1: get a chance to tackle him, you gotta make sure
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Speaker 1: you wrap them up because he's strong enough to get
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Speaker 1: out of that too. That's the head coach of course.
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson earlier today and welcome back you tuddle up
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Speaker 1: well the Jaguars in the Baltimore Ravens This Sunday's game
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Speaker 1: the head coach coming up, and more on the Ravens
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Speaker 1: coming up. With some some breaking news, Bucky, you're currently
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Speaker 1: colleague an NFL network Ian Rappaport and Tom Pello Sero
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Speaker 1: reporting that the Jaguars have claimed running back Darrell Henderson,
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Speaker 1: who was cut by the Rams. Interesting. Um, First off,
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Speaker 1: what you make of the cut in l A And Hey,
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Speaker 1: what do you think you could do here? No, I
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Speaker 1: think it's a very interesting uh move. And the reason
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Speaker 1: why it's interesting is because we talked about when you
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Speaker 1: lost James Robinson, who were the next guys up, and
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Speaker 1: so you saw Ja Michael Hasty have more opportunities, but
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Speaker 1: you still knew you needed another one. Uh. Henderson has
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Speaker 1: been a very productive back for the Rams. I won't
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Speaker 1: say very he's been a productive back. I think it
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Speaker 1: was the leading rushlant this year. And so now you've
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Speaker 1: given up give you get a guy who has an
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Speaker 1: opportunity to jump into rotation and make some contributions to
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Speaker 1: take some of the load off Travis at the end.
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Speaker 1: One of the things you want to do when you're
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Speaker 1: looking at waiver wire acquisition, is is this guy capable
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Speaker 1: of filling a role? Can he feel a role on
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Speaker 1: offense while also giving you some special teams a building.
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Speaker 1: Obviously the Jaguars believe that he can can do so
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Speaker 1: it should be great, should be great, great audition. It
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Speaker 1: makes perfect sense of running back and come in and
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Speaker 1: contribute pretty quickly. Uh. A lot of fans and say, well,
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Speaker 1: why did you give up a dear in the first
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Speaker 1: place where they wanted Yeah, there were other factors there.
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Speaker 1: They wanted to get value for a player they thought
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Speaker 1: he gives some value from uh, keeping eye the big
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Speaker 1: picture of the rebuild within this season, this move makes
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Speaker 1: a lot of sense, and I think he'll help. Uh.
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Speaker 1: I know they don't want to have Travis E. T
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Speaker 1: n touching the ball times, which I think was his
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Speaker 1: number against the Raiders. It was up there, you know,
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Speaker 1: like that high. So UH, this seemed like a move
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Speaker 1: that they clearly weren't desperate to do that because they
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Speaker 1: didn't do it over the by. They waited until, you know,
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Speaker 1: you know, the pitch kind of came to them. But
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Speaker 1: ye know, the pitch kind of came to them and
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Speaker 1: they swung. So they have it well. Uh that that
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Speaker 1: just broke about five seven minutes ago. On a twitter
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Speaker 1: from Ian Rappaport, Darrell Henderson claimed by the Jaguars now
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Speaker 1: priority number one this week. Guy's uh Lamar Jackson. You
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Speaker 1: might have heard of him, former m v P quarterback.
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Speaker 1: Can run all over the field, can throw it around also,
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Speaker 1: and on your screen you see his numbers this year
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Speaker 1: two thousand through the year almost he he's a run
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Speaker 1: for three touchdowns, He's thrown for sixteen seven picks. He
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Speaker 1: only has one outing against the Jaguars was pretty good though.
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Speaker 1: Three touchdowns. Back in his last game in this stadium,
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Speaker 1: it was seventeen New Year's Eve, the tax Layer Bowl
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Speaker 1: as it was called at the time. It was his
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Speaker 1: last college game. He threw four interceptions in the game.
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Speaker 1: He ran for over a hundred and fifty yards and
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Speaker 1: a touchdown as well through a couple of touchdown passes.
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Speaker 1: But Mississippi State won that game over Louisville. That's been
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Speaker 1: a while, but Lamar and Jackson is priority number one
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Speaker 1: this week, guys, no doubt and bucketingman interrupted. You know
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Speaker 1: it's your show, but um, I think that stat to
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Speaker 1: JP just threwout. Uh speaks to the vision that you
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Speaker 1: kind of have to respect the Ravens for hap because
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Speaker 1: this his kid was not a guarantee. Like there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of people who always criticized every team the passed on, Well,
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Speaker 1: why in the worlds you do that? Well, there were
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Speaker 1: a lot of questions, and that game showed a lot
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Speaker 1: of questions, and you have to give the Ravens a
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Speaker 1: lot of credit for seeing it, knowing what they wanted
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Speaker 1: building around helping him develop. So, uh yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 1: I don't have a question for the scout in the draft, Nick,
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Speaker 1: But here's a question for the draft guy. Where did
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Speaker 1: you have Lamar? And are you surprised that he's been
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Speaker 1: as great as he's been because he has been great.
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Speaker 1: I thought he was underrated in the process. I think
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Speaker 1: my issue with the way Lamar was viewed was whatever
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Speaker 1: issue we had Lamar Jackson, you had to have similar
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Speaker 1: issues with Josh Allen, and so the disparity between Josh
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Speaker 1: Allen and Lamar Jackson kind of baffled me because Lamar
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Speaker 1: Jackson was a better and more productive college player than
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Yet uh Josh Allen was viewed as a
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Speaker 1: better prospect because of highway speed and intangibles, not intangibles,
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Speaker 1: but arm talent and those things. Um, I still think that, um,
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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens haven't fully tapped into all that Lamar
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Speaker 1: Jackson could be. And that's kind of crazy to say
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Speaker 1: that when you talk about a former m VP candidate
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Speaker 1: and a guy who was an extremely successful record as
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Speaker 1: a starter. But yeah, it's actually a Bowlt certainly impacted
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Speaker 1: the way people viewed him because he had a lot
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Speaker 1: of mistakes, a lot of turnovers in it kind of
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Speaker 1: kicked up the narrative again that he couldn't be a
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Speaker 1: pocket quarterback, that he couldn't function within the pocket and
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Speaker 1: have to deliver dime after dime if he's not able
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Speaker 1: to utilize his athleticism. Here's another question for the UH
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Speaker 1: scout or whatever calling Bucky today. Um, And I've wrestled
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Speaker 1: with this all week and it doesn't matter. It's just
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Speaker 1: kind of an interesting question. Who scares you more? Bucky?
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Speaker 1: If you're you know, UH, ten points up on a
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Speaker 1: team with twelve minutes ago, and you've got either Mahomes
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Speaker 1: or Lamar, Uh, what scares you more? And I guess
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Speaker 1: the point is they both scare you, but you know,
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Speaker 1: we are in that situation. Whatever you say he's not,
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Speaker 1: whatever he is or isn't he when the game's on
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Speaker 1: the line and you need points, this guy's is dangerous
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Speaker 1: as the guys that they consider absolutely elite. Yeah. You
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Speaker 1: know the funny thing about Lamar in comparison to Patrick Mahomes.
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Speaker 1: I think Patrick Mahomes it's kind of the perfect world, right,
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Speaker 1: because what you ideally want is an A plus quarterback
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Speaker 1: who is athletic. He has that. Patrick Mahomes is athletic
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Speaker 1: as they come when he comes to it, but running
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Speaker 1: is secondary. Now he's out the runner that Lamar Jackson is,
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Speaker 1: but he runs just enough to annoy you. Uh, picking
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Speaker 1: up first down scrambles, uh, improvisational skills where he's able
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Speaker 1: to make plays on and off schedule. Lamar Jackson is
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Speaker 1: a more dynamic runner. Uh. The strength of his game
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Speaker 1: speaks to it is his running ability, his ability to
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Speaker 1: run in between the tackles, get on the edges and
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Speaker 1: those things. Uh. He does have outstanding arm talent. I
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Speaker 1: believe he's really at his best because it's funny. We've
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Speaker 1: seen him kind of be stuck in an offense where
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Speaker 1: he's always in shotgun. I would love to see him
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Speaker 1: after the opportunity to run a cal Shanahan type offense
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Speaker 1: where he is under center, he is able to control
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Speaker 1: the backside defensive man with bootlegs and those things. Because
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Speaker 1: that's what he did in Louisville. I think people were
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Speaker 1: getting he played for Biby Petrino. Biby Petrino isn't an
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Speaker 1: RPO guy Barbar Petrino has some pro style elements to
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Speaker 1: that offense, and so I don't believe he's been fully
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Speaker 1: maximized during his time at Baltimore. But he is very,
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Speaker 1: very dangerous, even in those late game situations because even
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Speaker 1: if he's inaccurate, his athletics has imposed a lot of
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Speaker 1: problems and it changes how you have to call your
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Speaker 1: defense in those moments. Yeah, it's funny, GP. I I'm
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Speaker 1: the biggest pocket pastors snob there is. But and so
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Speaker 1: as soon as I sit here and say, well, I'd
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Speaker 1: rather have my homes because he can do it from
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Speaker 1: the pocket, when I really sit there and think about
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Speaker 1: how I'm gonna feel in the press by box on Sunday,
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Speaker 1: if the Jaguars are leading by five with three minutes
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Speaker 1: to go, there's not that much difference in the fear
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Speaker 1: factor with my homes on the field as as Lamar Jackson's.
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Speaker 1: I guess that's my point is you can say ideally
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Speaker 1: what you want a quarterback, but this guy is dangerous,
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Speaker 1: effective and I'm not so sure that he's not just
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Speaker 1: as much of a winner. All that stuff, Uh, you knows.
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Speaker 1: And then taking too consideration the changes that the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: defense is going to come out of the bye week with,
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Speaker 1: and Devin Lloyd and Chad Mumer are going to rotate
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Speaker 1: according to head coach Doug Peterson down the stretch here
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Speaker 1: at linebacker, they've had some issues against running style quarterbacks
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Speaker 1: this year, Bucky and the tight end game over the years,
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Speaker 1: as we've known it against this Jags defense has you know,
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Speaker 1: the other tight ends have played well and Mark Andrews
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Speaker 1: is a good one for sure for the Ravens. So
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Speaker 1: it's a tough challenge this week. And how about first
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Speaker 1: of all that rotation, Devin Lloyd and Chad movement, two
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Speaker 1: rookie linebackers trying to figure it out. Yeah, it should
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Speaker 1: be really interesting to see how this plays out. Chad
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Speaker 1: moments the stud I've liked him throughout the process. I
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Speaker 1: thought he's one of the top linebackers in the draft.
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Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd I've also had an affinity for because I
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Speaker 1: felt like his versatility and big playability would eventually make
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Speaker 1: him a start at the next level. The fact that
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Speaker 1: these guys are sharing time, yeah, it kind of speaks
18:29
Speaker 1: to maybe there's some concerns about which one should be
18:31
Speaker 1: on the field more, which doesn't really bold well for
18:34
Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd. But I think what you do is you
18:36
Speaker 1: get as many good players on the field as you can,
18:39
Speaker 1: and then you figure out the best way to play him. Uh.
18:42
Speaker 1: Chad movement is outstanding. I mean, he really reminds me
18:44
Speaker 1: a lot of uh Logan Wilson, who's up at UH Cincinnati,
18:48
Speaker 1: who was his counterpart at Wyoming. He's terrific play, a
18:52
Speaker 1: great instinct, greater wearing, this natural communicator, all those things.
18:55
Speaker 1: I think Devin Lloyd is also outstanding. But I don't
18:58
Speaker 1: know if he's kind of found his way in his defense.
19:01
Speaker 1: And I also don't know if the coaches have fully
19:04
Speaker 1: uh figured out how to deploy him, to put him
19:07
Speaker 1: in a position where he's always playing to the strength
19:09
Speaker 1: his strength. And i'd call people, uh email me this week,
19:13
Speaker 1: Well you're gonna lose speed and the ability to chase down. Uh,
19:20
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. If you have movement on the field, I
19:22
Speaker 1: don't know that Lloyd's that much better running chase guy.
19:27
Speaker 1: Then Mom, Loyd has that knack for making plays. But
19:33
Speaker 1: when I watched movement in college Bucky, I saw I
19:36
Speaker 1: saw a fast guy who can chase. Yeah, look at
19:40
Speaker 1: his thing was he was a linebacker, like a linebacker
19:43
Speaker 1: that could play in the middle of the line. I'm
19:44
Speaker 1: going to play weak side. Great instincts and awareness, kake
19:47
Speaker 1: and diagnosed plays fast as a sideline the sideline chaser. Uh.
19:51
Speaker 1: In my estimation, I felt like he was a guy
19:53
Speaker 1: that was like a borderline uh. First second round pick
19:57
Speaker 1: just because of the way that he collected tackles and
19:59
Speaker 1: may plays. Devin Lloyd is a different type linebacker, and
20:03
Speaker 1: I think as unfortunately they're playing the same position in
20:06
Speaker 1: this defense. But Devin Lloyd to me, was more of
20:09
Speaker 1: an edge presence more so than an off ball linebacker.
20:13
Speaker 1: Now he's been able to transition, He's made plays and
20:15
Speaker 1: done some things, but it was his versatility, his pass
20:19
Speaker 1: rush ability, and then his overall playmaking ability that really
20:23
Speaker 1: made him a first round pick. Not necessarily that he
20:26
Speaker 1: was an off the ball linebacker that was going to
20:28
Speaker 1: sit there and play like Shaquille Leonard has played for
20:32
Speaker 1: the in and out of his coach for years. He's
20:34
Speaker 1: a Swiss Army Knight. He's got it. Needs to spend
20:36
Speaker 1: some time on the edges. He needs to be blitzed,
20:38
Speaker 1: he needs the case and he dropping coverage. He is
20:40
Speaker 1: not your traditional ay, I'm gonna sit in a fifty
20:43
Speaker 1: alignment and play this position kind of like they played
20:47
Speaker 1: in yesteryear. He's not the kind of player. Would you
20:49
Speaker 1: give Devin some pass rush snaps outside linebacker? Absolutely, because
20:55
Speaker 1: I think ultimately, man, when you evaluate college players, you
20:58
Speaker 1: have to put them in a role that is very
21:00
Speaker 1: similar to the role that they played in college if
21:02
Speaker 1: you want that kind of production. And so he was
21:04
Speaker 1: a very impactful pass rusher. We've seen him make plays
21:09
Speaker 1: on interceptions. But he is a guy that I believe
21:12
Speaker 1: needs to come forward more than he goes backwards because
21:15
Speaker 1: the plays come. He has too long of a history
21:18
Speaker 1: of being a playmaker to not have plays made with
21:21
Speaker 1: him on the field. You gotta put your guys in
21:23
Speaker 1: the best position to make plays. And the Jaguars still
21:26
Speaker 1: kind of sorting through that and eventually maybe they'll find
21:28
Speaker 1: a solution. We'll come back in a moment a little
21:31
Speaker 1: more on the Ravens Jaguars matchup. Of course, we'll get
21:34
Speaker 1: to social media question on Twitter today and a tunnel
21:38
Speaker 1: up with Bucky Brooks on the Jaguars Digital Network. And
21:49
Speaker 1: these guys have played a lot football together, right as
21:52
Speaker 1: a VET group played together. You know, it's any coordinator
21:54
Speaker 1: scheme wise is the same, right, and um, they played
21:59
Speaker 1: a lot of football together. Conference there, mixed fronts, mixed personnel,
22:03
Speaker 1: um at any time, you know, and then create create
22:07
Speaker 1: you know, some havoc that way. So um, it's a challenge.
22:11
Speaker 1: It's a challenge to run the ball, but you still
22:13
Speaker 1: have to try. That's the head coach Doug Peterson earlier
22:18
Speaker 1: today on the Ravens Defense Welcome back, huddle up with
22:21
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks on a Wednesday Thanksgiving Eve, j P Shadrick,
22:25
Speaker 1: John Osier and Bucky Brooks the Jaguars and the Ravens
22:28
Speaker 1: coming up Sunday at t I A bank Field team
22:31
Speaker 1: will have some work tomorrow a little bit and then
22:34
Speaker 1: the normal work and then normal work on Friday, and
22:38
Speaker 1: there we go. It's game week. The Jags are back
22:40
Speaker 1: home this Sunday. And you know, this Ravens defense is
22:45
Speaker 1: really good, Bucky. I mean you, they've been at it
22:47
Speaker 1: for a long time. His point where was this group
22:50
Speaker 1: has been together for a while. Some veteran players in
22:53
Speaker 1: that team, starting with Kolias Campbell upfront, and some veteran
22:57
Speaker 1: pass rushers on this team, and then the inndbacker groups
23:00
Speaker 1: playing well, they've got guys on the back end. It is.
23:04
Speaker 1: It's about as complete of a defense as you'll find.
23:06
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, absolutely, it's a very complete defense. Is
23:09
Speaker 1: defense that challenges you in a bunch of different ways. One,
23:12
Speaker 1: physicality and toughness. You can be challenging to regard. You
23:15
Speaker 1: gotta be able to put your big boy pass on
23:17
Speaker 1: and kind of go and brawl in the phone booth.
23:19
Speaker 1: The other part that you have to deal with is
23:21
Speaker 1: you gotta deal with all of the different pressures and
23:24
Speaker 1: exotics that they will bring. Uh. Mike MacDonald's a new
23:27
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, but he's a Raven and Raven defensive coordinators
23:31
Speaker 1: love to bring pressure. They're not afraid to come after you.
23:33
Speaker 1: They'll bring pressure from everywhere. Uh. And they're gonna test
23:36
Speaker 1: the quarterback and then The final part of it is
23:38
Speaker 1: this is a defense that is loaded with playmakers and
23:40
Speaker 1: ball hawks. Marcus Peters loves to sit and squat and
23:44
Speaker 1: he's gonna try and take one or two from Trevor Lawrence.
23:48
Speaker 1: Marlon Humphrey has a knack for punching the ball out.
23:51
Speaker 1: So whenever you have the ball and you in his proximity,
23:53
Speaker 1: you gotta put two hands on it because he'll knock
23:55
Speaker 1: it out. And so this is a game that it
23:58
Speaker 1: kind of tests the fundamentals of the Jaguars, but it
24:01
Speaker 1: also will test the mindset. How mentally tough are the
24:04
Speaker 1: Jaguars candy brawl with one of the best brawling teams
24:07
Speaker 1: in football. Yeah, I think it's it's it's really tough test,
24:11
Speaker 1: maybe tougher than the record indicates. Um Ravens have been
24:16
Speaker 1: up by ten points in every game they've played, which
24:19
Speaker 1: is a pretty remarkable thing, and they've seemed to in
24:23
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks got it figured out on
24:25
Speaker 1: defense were they're not giving up those leads. Uh. You know,
24:31
Speaker 1: when you add Rocan Smith to this, it gives them
24:36
Speaker 1: a dynamic and a playmaking thing that they didn't have early.
24:41
Speaker 1: I just feel, uh, maybe I over worry about Jaguars opponents.
24:45
Speaker 1: But I feel like this is a team that's peaking
24:47
Speaker 1: at the right time. It's going to be focused. The
24:51
Speaker 1: Ravens are are are very well coached, and I like
24:54
Speaker 1: teams that know what they are uh, and the Ravens
24:58
Speaker 1: fit that. I think this might be. I I would
25:03
Speaker 1: be surprised if the Ravens don't win this. I think
25:05
Speaker 1: it'll be close. I'd maybe be as surprised if they
25:09
Speaker 1: won this as any game left on the schedule. I
25:12
Speaker 1: think this is maybe the toughest. I know Dallas blew
25:14
Speaker 1: out Minnesota, but that's a little up and down. Ravens
25:17
Speaker 1: are so consistent and so smart that I think this
25:20
Speaker 1: is a tough test. But oh, it's a tough test. Now,
25:23
Speaker 1: that's a tough set. I'm not going to sugarcode. I'm
25:26
Speaker 1: not gonna say like, oh, this is one of the day.
25:27
Speaker 1: Absolutely she'd be able to get. Now, it's a tough test,
25:30
Speaker 1: but it's a test, nonetheless that you gotta take on
25:33
Speaker 1: because if you want to be one of those teams
25:35
Speaker 1: that's regarded as elite down the line, you gotta learn
25:37
Speaker 1: how to play these kinds of teams because when you
25:39
Speaker 1: look at the way the league is evolving. We're seeing
25:42
Speaker 1: more teams. Rushing attempts are up this year, I mean
25:46
Speaker 1: the highest mark through eleven games since I want to
25:49
Speaker 1: say two thousand and eight. Passing attempts are down. So
25:53
Speaker 1: the league is going back to yesteryear where it is.
25:56
Speaker 1: The running game is physical defenses. Those are the things
25:59
Speaker 1: that you have to have to win at a high level.
26:01
Speaker 1: And so Jacksonville has to be able to stop up
26:03
Speaker 1: and deal with these kinds of teams because these are
26:05
Speaker 1: the teams that are going to be in the postseason
26:06
Speaker 1: tournament at some point. When the Jaguars reached the playoffs,
26:10
Speaker 1: how do you simplify the defense and specifically, how do
26:18
Speaker 1: you uh try to improve against running quarterbacks? It's it's
26:24
Speaker 1: been the Achilles Hill of the defense any defense. O.
26:26
Speaker 1: We're always been good against run except when they played
26:29
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones r PO Giants and Jalen Hurts RPO Philadelphia.
26:35
Speaker 1: And I guess what, Lamar is better than both of
26:38
Speaker 1: those guys. Um, But it doesn't mean that you can't
26:42
Speaker 1: do it. But I'm just wondering, Bucky, how how do
26:44
Speaker 1: you see them trying to do anything different? More simple?
26:48
Speaker 1: Whatever that means it's really hard. Uh. And the reason
26:52
Speaker 1: it's hard is because the Jaguars personnel. UH. The way
26:55
Speaker 1: that you stop the running quarterback and the r p
26:58
Speaker 1: O game is you have to make sure that you
27:00
Speaker 1: always have an additional defender in the box. Meaning if
27:03
Speaker 1: they're in uh eleven personnel and they have five linemen
27:08
Speaker 1: to tie end in the back, where you've got to
27:11
Speaker 1: have an additional uh. Things. So if they have six
27:14
Speaker 1: in the box, you gotta have seven because the quarterback
27:17
Speaker 1: evens up the number and sometimes you gotta drop eight
27:19
Speaker 1: to account for Lamar Jackson. And so to do that, though,
27:22
Speaker 1: you have to be able to play manned man on
27:24
Speaker 1: the outside. Are you good enough to hold up in
27:27
Speaker 1: those situations? We've seen the Jaguars struggle and man demand.
27:30
Speaker 1: But the only way you can deal with the myriad
27:33
Speaker 1: of r p O s and creative run pass option
27:36
Speaker 1: plays that people are throwing out there is you have
27:39
Speaker 1: to man up. You have to lock up. You have
27:40
Speaker 1: to tell those guys on the perimeter you gotta take
27:42
Speaker 1: care of your your dude, and we got to make
27:44
Speaker 1: sure that we crushed the running game and if you're
27:46
Speaker 1: unable to cover it, then it man it just makes
27:49
Speaker 1: it for a long guessing game throughout six sixty minute affair.
27:53
Speaker 1: We'll come back in a moment social media question and
27:56
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29:22
Speaker 1: with today for social media questions at Zack Bierman. At
29:26
Speaker 1: what point in some package is will we see Alan
29:28
Speaker 1: and Walker with a hand on the ground? Could this
29:30
Speaker 1: help their get off? Has that anything to do with anything, Bucky? Uh,
29:35
Speaker 1: some guys are more comfortable being into three point stance
29:37
Speaker 1: as opposed to standing up. A lot of times coaches
29:39
Speaker 1: give guys the flexibility to do what they've Uh, I
29:42
Speaker 1: feel most comfortable doing. UM. I don't know. I don't
29:45
Speaker 1: know if it make that much of a difference. I
29:46
Speaker 1: think the main thing is what they do after the stands.
29:49
Speaker 1: Get off is important. But being a great pass wrestler
29:51
Speaker 1: requires a few different traits. Great hand skills, great balance,
29:55
Speaker 1: great body control, burst, and then you have to finish. Uh.
29:59
Speaker 1: Too often we haven't been in a true situation where
30:02
Speaker 1: we're able to get after the past of meaning it's
30:04
Speaker 1: obvious passing downs. So now Josh Allen Trayvon Walker can
30:08
Speaker 1: get in this stance and act like Sprendon's pounce off
30:10
Speaker 1: the ball and then go hunt to quarterbacks. I agree, yeah, yeah.
30:14
Speaker 1: The only X factor there is they have had leads late,
30:19
Speaker 1: haven't gotten there, but the opportunities there have been fairly minimal. Uh.
30:24
Speaker 1: And I'm always a big believer that, like Bucky, pass
30:28
Speaker 1: rushing is usually about pass rushing opportunities. It's hard to
30:31
Speaker 1: rush the pastor in second and four. Uh So I
30:35
Speaker 1: think that is a factor. Do you have a social
30:37
Speaker 1: media question? Is in the Jaguars of the Ravens coming
30:40
Speaker 1: up Sunday the game presented by public swhere shopping is
30:43
Speaker 1: a pleasure of the Ravens at seven and three first
30:46
Speaker 1: place in the a f C North, the Jaguars three
30:49
Speaker 1: and seven, third place in the a f C South.
30:51
Speaker 1: And Bucky, how you feeling about this one? I think
30:55
Speaker 1: this was a real tough one. It's a tough one
30:57
Speaker 1: and so normally in these games, if you're gonna win it,
30:59
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it depends on how Doug
31:01
Speaker 1: Peterson sets up the game. Uh. He talked about it
31:05
Speaker 1: when when you hear Doug Peterson say it's gonna be
31:07
Speaker 1: very difficult to run, but we still have to run it.
31:09
Speaker 1: My expectation would be watched them spread it out very
31:13
Speaker 1: similar to maybe the way they attacked the end and
31:15
Speaker 1: after this coast where they went empty formation early, some
31:18
Speaker 1: five out, get the ball out of Trevor Lawrence's hands
31:21
Speaker 1: really quickly and see if the guys can break a
31:24
Speaker 1: tackle and make plays uh down the road. What you
31:27
Speaker 1: want to avoid is run the ball on every first down,
31:30
Speaker 1: and then you have second and twelve. So now Trevor
31:32
Speaker 1: Lawrence is throwing into the teeth of a defense that's
31:34
Speaker 1: cranking up all kinds of exotic pressures. So a mix
31:37
Speaker 1: of quick hitting UH first down plays, trying to get
31:41
Speaker 1: the second and manageable to keep your quarterback in a
31:44
Speaker 1: situation where he's able to kind of throw against a
31:46
Speaker 1: balanced defense as opposed to a loaded defense gear to
31:49
Speaker 1: stop the passing in. Yeah, and that's really the the
31:54
Speaker 1: art of trying to understand this offense a little bit
31:57
Speaker 1: that when they do that, people will say, why didn't
32:00
Speaker 1: they run the ball more? But it's you know, and
32:04
Speaker 1: and and you hear as well for the games JP,
32:06
Speaker 1: But I mean, I think that's important to bear in
32:08
Speaker 1: mind that, uh, when they do the short stuff early,
32:13
Speaker 1: like you're talking about, when they try to get that
32:15
Speaker 1: first down into a second and six rather than second
32:18
Speaker 1: and nine, that's not conceding the running game, but it's
32:24
Speaker 1: trying to approach it the way, trying to approach the
32:26
Speaker 1: running game the way they think it will be most effective.
32:29
Speaker 1: And there's a difference there, but it'll if it doesn't work,
32:32
Speaker 1: it'll cause me some grief. JP, I can tell um.
32:40
Speaker 1: All right, So what o'clock kickoff time? Um on Sunday
32:45
Speaker 1: here at the bank. Happy Thanksgiving by the way, Bucky
32:48
Speaker 1: favorite Thanksgiving food? Oh Um. I am a guy who
32:54
Speaker 1: likes sweet poteato castle roll. I know that has been
32:56
Speaker 1: very controversial. I like sweet potato cast role, and I
32:59
Speaker 1: may be wanted a few people that like a little
33:01
Speaker 1: cranberry sauce with my Thanksgiving meal. So that that that's
33:05
Speaker 1: where I'm at. That's what I got for you. It's
33:08
Speaker 1: your plate, whatever you can put whatever you want on.
33:11
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go green bean cast roll with mushrooms in that.
33:14
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised green and cast roll really getting excited
33:20
Speaker 1: for not the one you just make out of the can.
33:24
Speaker 1: It's gotta be more, you know, like the French with
33:27
Speaker 1: the French onion soup box on top. That's what we're doing.
33:29
Speaker 1: Yes we are, Joe, what are you doing? What? What?
33:34
Speaker 1: What's to me? The quality of stuffing slash dressing, whatever
33:40
Speaker 1: you free to call it makes its thanks getting If
33:44
Speaker 1: if that's good, I mean it's so nice it's bad.
33:48
Speaker 1: But if if that is good, then everything else sort
33:52
Speaker 1: of follow us. We gotta get. We have gibless and
33:55
Speaker 1: gravy on top of that, like oh yeah, I mean
33:59
Speaker 1: and you know what, ja, I could I might be
34:00
Speaker 1: able to eat with you. I might be able to
34:02
Speaker 1: go over your house and sit down and haven't played
34:03
Speaker 1: that that green bean casse role things in the pay
34:07
Speaker 1: It's not the only thing you're eating over. I mean,
34:09
Speaker 1: come on, yeah, I don't just picture JP alone with
34:13
Speaker 1: just like big play of green bean. I mean you're
34:20
Speaker 1: going to have to lure me with like desserts or
34:22
Speaker 1: something like that, because right now, if I'm wearing my options,
34:25
Speaker 1: I don't know about the green bean cast role deal.
34:27
Speaker 1: Buy my door is always open precise his mind. But
34:31
Speaker 1: apparently you don't want my frappy cast role cast rolling
34:36
Speaker 1: out the can unreal. Uh enjoy. We'll talk to you
34:42
Speaker 1: next week, Bucky, or on Sunday. I guess we'll talk
34:44
Speaker 1: to you on Sunday. We'll see you on Sunday. Do it,
34:47
Speaker 1: do it, Let's do it, Let's do it, Let's do it.
34:48
Speaker 1: It's get it does Let's let's get it. That's Bucky Brooks,
34:51
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34:55
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35:00
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35:03
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