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#224 - For Azeroth!: “The Answer is Henry Cavill” · For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast

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  Victory for the Forsaken for Lord are on for the Kirin, Tor.
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  Pandaria for calendar to the burning Legion.
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  Organ Alias. Thus Endora for the alliance for
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  Azeroth. Welcome to another episode of 4S
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  or off. My name is Olivia and as always,
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  I'm joined by the villain himself, the truest villain
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  himself, Manny Manny How's the world of work?
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  I've been treating you this week.
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  It was a half week. It was a holiday weekend.
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  I got away, I was in a bubble. I didn't know what was
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  happening. I come back at everybody's just
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  like, hey, did you miss this? Did you get this?
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  So, I'm playing a bit of catch-up, so we're gonna be
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  talking about this. Yes, quite a bit of ketchup
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  indeed, as we had a busy very, very busy week, in Alpha this
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  week, and whole, bunch whole bunch of stuff is happening.
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  Both in in Alpha for a dragon flight.
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  Also season for the is is here. It's a pot us because we're
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  doing a little bit of a weird recording schedule this week.
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  We're recording on a Tuesday, which were normally recording on
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  a Saturday. So, things are weird.
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  Yeah, but I'm just not going to be, but yeah, being out of town.
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  So we need my setup. I need to be in the chair, so we
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  can get this going. Absolutely.
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  Gotta Have, You Gotta Have the familiarity.
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  T around it. You got to be in the zone to be
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  able to do the podcasting. I'd yeah, totally.
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  Totally understand it. But yeah, it's been, it's been a
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  very busy week. We had a new-build, get they got
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  pushed out last Tuesday and shortly after this episode is
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  recorded, will have another build on the alpha going going
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  into effect that will have even more stuff than what we're going
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  to be talking about this episode.
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  And Also, we're going to have season for it like it's just
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  starting. Yeah, Tennessee.
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  That's our first bit of news. He's like you said season 4 is
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  starting today so it's going to be a short and experimental
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  season. They are Taking off the brakes
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  for this one. So the normal gating that we
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  would have where you don't need, be able to get a certain amount
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  of Valor per week or that sort of things that's gone.
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  You're going to be able to like, hit the running, get up to like
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  the highest item levels that we've seen and that we will see
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  this expansion. And so if you need to know what
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  the faded rate schedule is, and that, that was shown last week
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  and we covered that in our last episode, but we're getting a lot
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  of with Yes, we're getting new season of PVP.
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  We're getting the Mythic Keystone's and the entire new
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  season of that. And like we said The Faded
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  rates. So for people who may have been
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  living under a rock longer than I was this weekend, baited raids
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  is a new rotation all of the raids from every tear that we
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  have had. This expansion are being brought
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  back and each week for the next six weeks.
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  We're going to have this rotation.
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  Yeah. So this week Castle nastya is
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  going to be the faded raid and that means that when you go in
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  there the health and the strength of the enemy's are
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  going to be scaled up so that it is a new tier level, but we're
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  also going to be having fated Powers with the different bosses
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  and The Faded Powers. We have a developer's notes for
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  that. That faded rates are an
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  experiment in giving a fresh take on existing experience
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  adding new mechanics, atop pre-existing.
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  Counters is such a precarious Balancing Act and we wanted to
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  reward players efforts and as such built powerful beneficial
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  or has called faded infusions which are earned after executing
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  the new faded power mechanics. And so it's kind of like a
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  Mythic plus a fix for these raid bosses, they've got four in
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  here, they are kind of technical but when you When you start
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  understanding them, then you'll be able to take that and work it
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  into the raid mechanics, because the rain mechanics are going to
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  still be going and you're still going to be trying to do all of
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  the mechanics in every raid boss on top of trying to make sure
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  that these things like the creation.
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  Spark like the reconfiguration emitter protoform barrier and
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  chaotic Essence, still fly to give you that extra boost.
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  We don't know how drawing these bosses are going to be tuned
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  for, but I would Expect that after we have gone through this
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  last season 3 and how much of a struggle that was, for many
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  grade teens that they're probably going to tune this
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  easier because it's really just more of a fun experience.
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  Yeah. And it's going to be easier for
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  players that that played in season 3 than it is going to be
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  four players that are, you know, coming into season for fresh
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  with a fresh character because the the tier set bonuses are
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  still going to be active from season 3 going into season four
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  because the basically the gear that you're going to be getting
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  is going to be going after the same to your gear.
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  So all that you're going to be doing through these.
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  Through these faded raids is going to be collecting gear,
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  like you normally would, but you're going to be trying to
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  upgrade your tear pieces and you know, shifting around what you
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  have equipped to make sure that you've got your legendary powers
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  and just trying to Do whatever you can to just slightly, give
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  yourself that little bit of an edge that you need to compensate
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  for the the power increase in these and these encounters.
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  So yeah, you're going to have a lot easier time if you're going
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  in with your for peace and to legendaries than you would
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  otherwise. So it's not going to be like a
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  typical experience of starting a fresh tear as it as it normally
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  would. So, I would actually say that
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  it's actually somewhat the opposite because they haven't
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  reset the creation catalyst. So, if you're starting a fresh
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  character, you have all of those charges because those were
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  calendar gated, not yet, it's not based on anything.
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  So you can show up, clear out, let's say a couple of mythix or
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  they run you through a dungeon that they can clear through
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  easily. Use the creation Catalyst to
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  convert those pieces and you could be walking in Maybe if you
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  got really lucky today, but by the end of this week, you be
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  walking in with, for peace, easy.
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  And that is something utterly unheard of in, in previous
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  tears. So, like I said, they've taken
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  the brakes off. There isn't the usual gating.
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  Like we like you were saying in season 3-0 to collect that tier
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  set bonuses to get that power in the big Power that was behind
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  them would take a lot of farming, a lot of buildup.
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  But there Doing away with that. The fact that again, you can do
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  your Valor upgrades and there is there is no cap on how much
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  value. You can get means that if you're
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  clearing 15s by the end of the, by the end of this week and
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  getting your rating up there, you will have enough valid to
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  upgrade anything that you picked up this week alone.
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  But that's not the only thing that they're doing because faded
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  rewards are also being put into place.
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  And if you enter the shadowlands raid and season for that, is
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  there for the faded faded thing, you'll start a quest called
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  Crossing fate which kicks off a quest line that will require
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  players. Sorry that reward players for
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  participating in faded rewards over a number of weeks with a
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  new currency. And these are the three cartel
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  didn't ears that we talked about.
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  And so you can use that grab an item.
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  And that immediately is available to you.
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  Those are the trinkets in the other things that we saw
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  weapons, and unique items from all of the rates that you can
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  just buy off of these vendors. And they are going to start at
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  faded normal, which means that that's 278 immediately and some
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  pieces that 285s. So for returning players mediate
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  way of like plugging in a hole of something that you may not
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  have gotten. On top of that, when you are
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  defeating faded bosses on a heroic or Mythic level, you will
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  get another type of currency, which you can use to upgrade you
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  combined 20 of these from the heroic or Mythic ciphers and
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  that will give you a a item that will upgrade a piece from that
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  to 75 to 85 thing up to the heroic level, or Mythic level.
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  So, for people who are just running, Rate.
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  You have a way of upgrading pieces that you may have gotten
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  on normal, but it hasn't dropped for you yet on heroic or
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  somebody else. There's too many other people in
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  line with that and so then you get to upgrade it and you're no
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  longer just waiting on the RG from the boss.
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  So they're doing a lot for raids as well to allow rating to stand
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  on its own. Maybe take off some of that like
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  oh I need to raid Mythic Plus in order to get the Gear 2 then
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  raid. Then do the rates with my
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  friends. That's something that's being a
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  adjusted here. Yeah, it's a huge thing for me
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  specifically because I can suffer Mythic plus, but I really
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  don't like, it's not my primary mode of gameplay, right?
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  Like I'll go in and do some If I feel like it but if I don't feel
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  like it then it just feels like a chore that I get that I have
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  to do and I don't think that anyone wants to feel like
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  they're being made to do chores in playing a game that we're
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  supposed to be doing for fun. So this is, this is definitely a
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  step in the right direction in my book.
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  Yeah and so along with that they have a developer's note and do
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  you want to read this developers note here?
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  Yeah. So they're saying the system is
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  an experiment for season 4 with the goal of providing a more A
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  method for players to overcome extreme, bad luck scenarios.
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  When it comes to a particular piece of loot, that just won't
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  drop especially in a season where each rate is only faded
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  every three weeks. We're limiting it to only three
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  puzzling cartel dinar over time, so that players can fill the
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  gaps in their regular gearing and protect against runs of
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  significant bad luck. But not undercut.
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  The primary gearing method for players to upgrade raid gear as
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  I completely skip the line, but to not undercut, the primary
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  gearing experience of doing meaningful content with your
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  group. Over time, additionally, we're
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  trialling and method for players to upgrade, raid gear as they
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  move into harder difficulties rewarding effort over an
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  extended period of time. Our hope is that these two
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  systems combined with fated powers to create a satisfying
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  and well-paced progression of power through season 4 is
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  perilous, new challenges. Yeah, that is fantastic because
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  like we said, it is the systems in combination.
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  I like that thing is never dropped for me.
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  I have gone through. I am the Monk, and I've never
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  gone to weapons, just never drop for me.
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  Well, you can purchase it and then because you've been running
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  through her or call these weeks, you could immediately upgrade it
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  to make it, to make it the level that you need, and that's
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  fantastic. Yeah, even if outside to the
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  raids, they've got the empowered World bosses.
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  Yes. So I we had touched on this
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  briefly as well whenever they had initially made the
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  announcement about season 4 but nothing has changed here.
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  Basically, every week with the changing of which rate is going
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  to be faded, the associated World boss with that with that
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  particular raid is going to be also empowered.
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  So This first week with Kathleen áthreeá the for open world
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  bosses, whichever one will be available at.
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  I don't have it off the top of my head but you're more tan.
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  Nobody pays its paid attention to those for the longest while.
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  So I don't even know which boss may have been active this week.
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  Yeah, but it's gonna be one of the four bosses from the
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  Baseline for zones of shadowlands that will be
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  empowered. So we'll have that next week
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  whenever We're going into faded, Sepulcher will have what is it
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  more guess is the next week would be sanctum of domination?
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  Yes, more depth is the right one yet for.
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  Thank you, enough domination. Yes.
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  Thank you. So same time.
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  Next week with more guests as the world boss, which will be
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  empowered. And then with Sepulchre at the
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  following week after that, will be Aunt Rose, which is the one
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  that's in there with mortise. So All that, all that combined,
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  there will be a reason to go do World buses again.
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  Outside of just, you know running around and getting the
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  free 500 anima for completing it.
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  So yeah, 278 loot. That's fantastic.
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  Absolute but there's there are some things that aren't going up
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  it with the new tier. So legendaries are not getting
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  another tier. We're also going to be seeing
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  conduits being left behind so if you've, if you've got the
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  highest level of conduits, that's not something you have to
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  farm up strangely enough. The requirement of being able to
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  do like, you know, 3K or completing Mythic SFO or getting
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  the Glad rating from season three that's gone from the rear.
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  From the one that gave all to 78.
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  So if that is true and we will definitely be confirming that as
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  soon as we jump in, a lot of people can just day one, upgrade
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  all order stuff 2278 from the from the rep vendor and never
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  have to worry about it. For the remainder of this
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  expansion which is I have thoughts on that.
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  Okay, quick thoughts, let's hear it.
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  Click thoughts. What was the?
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  What was the point? What was the, what was the point
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  in having that restriction in the first place?
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  If they were just going to take it away?
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  It was even for like I wasn't necessary.
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  I understand like but in hindsight now and now that we
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  know that there weren't going to be any upgrades past that what
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  was the point, why didn't they do it wasn't necessary for the
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  for the tear because I got to exalted or whatever way before I
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  got even finished heroic. And then going through Mythic
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  would have been an immediate like, okay, you gotta grab this
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  and it also Without the Restriction would have become
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  something that is a mandatory thing.
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  You would have had to, in any competitive.
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  Guild, get that rep up to exalted so you could.
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  So you can immediately unlock these by making them locked
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  behind completing. The highest hear something else.
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  It means that it's not mandatory because why fight assignments
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  unlocked for an ALT, or for you to go play in a different
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  different and game pillar. Mmm.
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  Eat like, you likely were already exalted, or we're never
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  going to do it in the first place.
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  So I just think that it narrowed down the amount of people who
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  are like, yep, you gotta grind your rep every day, you got to
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  get it to exalted because that's how you get these 278 conduits.
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  And conduits are just powerful enough that you should that.
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  You should ignore them. But not interesting enough that
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  Anybody cared about them, like meaningfully?
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  Yeah, yeah. I guess.
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  Yeah. It's just it just like they
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  could have they could have just made it.
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  Something that we just get like not tight.
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  It behind rep. Just had it.
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  Be one of those things that was like, time.
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  Gated like we get like, I am the weeks after the end of the end
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  of the tier, I guess like, it could have been just something
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  that they've just like, okay, enough times passage everybody
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  pumped up to 278, I don't know. I don't know about that.
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  I like, yeah, we're now looking at a hindsight sort of thing,
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  but I genuinely think that if it was time gated, people would
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  have been complaining that it should have been opened up
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  earlier. Like these are strong, we need
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  it. Like the, I think that the that
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  were looking at it and trying to like find this perfect solution
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  that I don't believe exists. No, I mean, of course, the
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  perfect solution doesn't exist. And here's the kicker we won't
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  ever have to Where you about this ever again?
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  Yes. So let's be happy for this.
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  Okay. So then That's the rating part.
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  Of course, Mythic plus. Like we are saying and not being
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  mandatory to like kind of give the leg up in rating, but Mythic
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  plus has a reason to do it all for itself, we have the new
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  seasonal, affix shrouded, where we're going to be getting the
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  nathrezim, infiltrators that I've disguised themselves among
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  enemies throughout the dungeon, they haven't disguise
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  themselves. Well you'll get a nice little
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  graphic over top of them to be like okay that's enough.
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  That's the infiltrator but Why are you trying to go after them?
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  Because the cartel Tata has put a reward and basically, we
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  covered this earlier. It is a scaling buff for each
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  nostril. Azim that you quote, unquote
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  capture. These not azim will be captured
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  and removed at 1% health. So they will not count towards
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  your total of creatures that you take out for for enemy forces.
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  But each time you take out one of them, you'll get a stacking
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  buff of the secondary stat of your choice.
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  So at the end of the dungeon, you are going to feel like a
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  living God as it were. Now.
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  There, of course, are the normal achievement.
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  If you get your feet of strength for going through and completing
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  all of your 15s, you'll get the new Mount.
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  There is also a title, the shrouded.
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  And for that top point one percent, you can get the
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  shrouded hero, which I don't believe I'll ever get to like
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  climb to that levels, but for the rest of us, you know, there
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  are once again dungeon teleports and these ones.
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  Are even more sought after in my opinion because we are doing a
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  list of new dungeons for this season.
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  We're going to be doing a ton of Mega dungeons.
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  So we have Taz of Ash returning from season three, with some
• 19:57
  tweaks. We've got operation mechag on
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  from BFA, both parts, we have the return to Kara's an again,
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  both parts coming back from Legion and I love that.
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  At dungeon. I believe you had a different
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  opinion on that one sweetly different.
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  Okay. And we have iron docks and Grim
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  rail Depot which, which won the popular vote.
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  I don't know why, but I will Echo that boo, but because
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  because internet trolls, that's why, because internet trolls I
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  guess, but that's going to be our lineup because It's eight
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  dungeons. Again, the the scores that you
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  need to hit the different things are going back to what we saw in
• 20:46
  season one and season two. So you to K instead of 25k in
• 20:50
  order to get to the very top and and that's what you need.
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  Because like I said, we're doing Old World stuff, that means
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  they're adding portals to gorgrond for the warlord's
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  dungeons. They're adding a portal to cares
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  and so that we can do our return to cares.
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  And and of course, they're adding a portal to mechag on so
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  that we can do. The mechag on Mega dungeon
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  straight from or Bose without us having to like use any kind of
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  skip like that. As I said before, they've done
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  some balance changes to Taza veche.
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  So in Salinas Gambit the enemy forces have been adjusted.
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  The same is true for the streets of Wonder, they've made some
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  targeted hits basically those Coastal or other coast Walker
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  Goliath's. In the first part have been
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  received to nerves to make them far more D libel and not
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  something that you have to avoid it.
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  The more difficult keys And Time Captain Hook tail.
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  Everybody's favorite infinite pirate dragon Captain was there
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  anything else I miss? I'm not sure also receive some
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  there, I got everything. Great.
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  Yeah you got everything and then for streets of Tazza fish,
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  they've also nerfed some of the trash.
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  They veteran spark Asters, the custom, the Custom Security
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  receive some targeted nerves and postmaster received a Nerf to
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  the the fan mail AOE that damage has been lowered.
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  So it is not as As painful as it used to be.
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  And I'm very glad to see that change that I think was the real
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  test for a lot of groups. I've been with Yeah, absolutely.
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  Yeah, definitely not a enjoyable.
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  Ability to deal with. Yeah.
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  So then lastly we have some changes to the season for great
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  V. The rewards for season 4.
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  Don't begin today on Tuesday. When you open it that up, same
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  thing you'll earn rewards for next week and that's when you
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  first get your season 4 on August 9th, re weekly is reset.
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  That's when the Vault will give you season for rewards, but do
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  you Attendance tokens of Merit. If you decide not to take any of
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  the gear from this week, you can sell those for 1000 gold.
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  Each, which means of last week, you did enough to unlock three
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  options. You killed pain bosses on just a
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  achievement, run night or you killed Enough to do some
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  dungeons or any combination of PVP and such.
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  You've got 6 K waiting for you and your bank.
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  Make sure you take advantage of that.
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  Of course, with season 4, they have done a wave of balance
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  changes, but some people were not happy with the balance
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  changes. And one person particular asked
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  about demon Hunters, which I know a little bit about
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  vengeance but this was specifically about havoc and
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  they asked like, oh, okay, well you forgot to add the Demon
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  Hunter changes and then currently and then you know
• 24:10
  expanded it. So it wasn't such a troll
• 24:11
  comment saying that They weren't happy about how having a Demon
• 24:16
  Hunter was playing the builds and all of that sort of stuff.
• 24:20
  And for people who are looking at the season for changes and
• 24:23
  feeling the same thing developed through, Deadspin came in and
• 24:27
  said that, they understand the frustration.
• 24:31
  And they want people to understand that there's a
• 24:34
  difference between a preferred playstyle issue and a balance
• 24:39
  issue. Obviously, as we're going into
• 24:42
  dragonflight, we are seeing some Heavy changes, the classes,
• 24:46
  every class. And every spec getting a talent
• 24:49
  tree revamp, which includes pretty much spells that we feel
• 24:54
  are mandatory means that you can drop something entirely from
• 25:00
  your rotation, you can replace it with something else.
• 25:03
  You can set up your build in so many different combinations.
• 25:07
  How many of those bills will be considered viable or not?
• 25:11
  That is for when we even get into the Beta And late beta It
• 25:14
  at that. But in terms of playstyle, we're
• 25:18
  going to be offered a whole lot more to play with and it's
• 25:21
  something that they're already working on season four and this
• 25:25
  experimental time is not the time for that, it is more just
• 25:30
  bringing some outliers looking at priest, being brought up and
• 25:35
  that sort of stuff. That's what we're going to be
• 25:37
  seeing. If you want to look at all of
• 25:40
  the balance changes, we have a link to that in our show notes.
• 25:44
  But with all of that, We also have a bit of news on wrath
• 25:52
  classic. Yes, we do.
• 25:54
  In fact, have quite some big news about wrath classic.
• 25:58
  So, last episode we had There was there was kind of a, a
• 26:06
  little bit of a leak that it happened right before last
• 26:09
  episode when out and this leak was kind of teasing that they
• 26:14
  were thinking about having the release date for wrath classic
• 26:21
  to be September 26. This was something that went up
• 26:24
  on the official the wow, classic website, web page, I guess if
• 26:28
  you want to call it that but it went up.
• 26:34
  They weren't intending for it to go up.
• 26:36
  When it went up, they took it down very quickly after and we
• 26:38
  didn't actually get a chance to talk about it last episode.
• 26:40
  So between then and now we have actually gotten confirmation
• 26:46
  official posts and everything from blizzard saying that the
• 26:50
  actual release date of Wrath of the Lich King Classic is on
• 26:54
  September 26th of this year and with that they have started
• 27:00
  preparing for for everyone. To come back and to jump in and
• 27:06
  prepare their characters as they so choose and have given a
• 27:12
  experience bonus of 50 percent, additional questing and and
• 27:17
  killing experience for everyone in TVC classic.
• 27:23
  So this is, this is a similar buff to what they had done for
• 27:27
  season of Mastery. If if any of you actually
• 27:31
  participated in that or spend up a character for a season of
• 27:33
  MasterChef, You know what I'm talking about.
• 27:35
  But this is basically the base level of that.
• 27:37
  We're, we're just getting an accelerated experience.
• 27:41
  Bonus a couple of weeks ahead of pre patch.
• 27:45
  We still don't know when pre patch is happening but we can we
• 27:49
  can take guesses as to when it's going to happen.
• 27:51
  Probably looking at like two to four weeks out from the actual
• 27:58
  release of Wrath classic as to win.
• 28:00
  We're actually going to get this but Looking at the time frame of
• 28:06
  what happened with burning Crusade classic, we only had two
• 28:10
  weeks to get characters. Like if you if you wanted to
• 28:14
  make a draenei or a blood elf, you only had two weeks to get
• 28:18
  those characters leveled up to 260 in order to take them into
• 28:24
  into burning Crusade content. Proper We're not.
• 28:28
  We're hoping that we get more than two weeks to do that, but
• 28:32
  it is also worth noting that on top of this experience bonus,
• 28:36
  which is going to be lasting until September 26.
• 28:40
  When the raft servers get turned on or not when the server's get
• 28:45
  turned on, but whenever the content becomes available, we'll
• 28:48
  have that 50% experience, bonus all the way up.
• 28:51
  Until that point, But it's also worth noting that with the pre
• 28:56
  patch, The Experience required per level from 60 to 70, is
• 29:03
  basically halved for every level.
• 29:07
  So there's going to be an additional bonus to getting
• 29:11
  characters all about, from 62 to 70 from that point.
• 29:15
  So if you have like a couple of level 60s that are sitting
• 29:18
  around, or you, you know, you decided to get the burning
• 29:22
  Crusade, Boost. It may be worth holding on until
• 29:25
  we get to pre patch in order to do that, unless you want to do
• 29:28
  like a death knight. But either way we'll have ample
• 29:31
  opportunity to get those characters leveled up to 270
• 29:35
  before heading into northrend and I don't know if you can
• 29:39
  tell, but I'm very excited about this.
• 29:42
  Feel the hype is there. I feel the hype is there.
• 29:46
  I was honestly thinking, like, oh, do I want to get into like,
• 29:49
  classic? And I have too much to do.
• 29:53
  I can't, I can't do it, but I wish you.
• 29:55
  Well, yes, I didn't. So I'm treating this, and I've
• 30:01
  said this before on the show, but I'm treating wrath classic
• 30:04
  in a way that I feel like I should have treated burning
• 30:06
  Crusade because I wanted the full Experience of going through
• 30:10
  burning Crusade and going through all the content there
• 30:13
  but I chose I chose to go for shadowlands Content instead
• 30:17
  which you know, we're here. It's in the past, with it's
• 30:21
  happened, it's whatever. I'm not, I'm not too terribly
• 30:23
  upset about it because I will get I will get to kill Illidan
• 30:27
  before before wrath comes out. And you know everything is going
• 30:32
  to be, everything's gonna be hunky-dory, so it's fine.
• 30:34
  I'm not I'm not too upset about it but I am I am going to be
• 30:39
  treating wrath classic much more seriously, than I treated
• 30:43
  burning Crusade. And, and with that, you know,
• 30:48
  I'm diving in because I, I'm in the, the Wrath beta and the
• 30:54
  dragon flight Alpha. And so, I'm trying to split my
• 30:57
  might, I'm not evenly, like there's a lot more to test with
• 31:01
  the dragon flight officer. Most of my my testing time is
• 31:04
  going to that, but I have been able to get in in the Wrath
• 31:08
  beta. And run some heroic Dungeons.
• 31:11
  And we have talked about this previously on this show, where
• 31:17
  they said that they were going to be increasing the difficulty
• 31:19
  of heroic dungeons, to make sure that they were providing
• 31:24
  something a little bit more meaty to chew on throughout the
• 31:28
  course of the expansion. And I can tell you from my
• 31:32
  experience running Wrath, heroics, At level they are not
• 31:39
  challenging at all. They are basically they're
• 31:42
  basically just, you know, Everything just Falls over and
• 31:47
  that's that's what wrath was like this.
• 31:51
  I remember running wrath dungeons, it would be a tank and
• 31:54
  he would run as fast as he could through everything, gather it
• 31:58
  all up and you would just AOE it down.
• 32:01
  That was the, that was the way that wrath dungeons played.
• 32:04
  So when they said, ho we want to do this thing to increase the
• 32:09
  difficulty of those dungeons throughout the expansion as a
• 32:15
  All of these staged releases. I think.
• 32:20
  It definitely is needed and yeah you're what you're saying is
• 32:23
  ringing true but you're coming through it with like leveling
• 32:28
  stuff and going through the. So the characters that were
• 32:34
  using to test the The Dungeons and do tend to do raid testing,
• 32:40
  these are characters that have Dungeon blue.
• 32:42
  So these are geared characters with like we're going through
• 32:46
  and doing these Dungeons and the gear that we're getting off.
• 32:49
  These bosses is the same. That we currently have on.
• 32:51
  So it sits on characters that are geared level to that par.
• 32:57
  Yes. So this is this is not coming in
• 33:00
  with like questing greens because like there's not really
• 33:04
  there's not really too much like blue gear that you get from from
• 33:07
  questing and even still the the dungeon gear that you're getting
• 33:10
  while going through and leveling while it is blue gear.
• 33:13
  There are separate versions for the normal, you know, the normal
• 33:18
  difficulty of the dungeon In and the heroic version, just like
• 33:23
  just like is you know expected of retail where that wasn't the
• 33:27
  case in burning Crusade, where all of the all of the dungeon
• 33:30
  gear outside of like a, in a small addition of Epic gear.
• 33:36
  At the end of the, the heroic dungeon in burning Crusade, all
• 33:43
  of the gear is literally the same.
• 33:45
  Like it's the same gear that you have the same level same
• 33:49
  standardized? Yeah, yes.
• 33:50
  So this is a it's different in that we're not going in with the
• 33:56
  like fresh level 80 year, it's level 80 that has had a little
• 34:01
  bit of time to go through heroic Dungeons and you know, gear out
• 34:07
  a little bit that way. But yet and still with that
• 34:09
  handicap, They're still way too easy like it theirs.
• 34:14
  You have to actively try. Well, hopefully, try to die.
• 34:20
  Well, you're getting the same gear that the boss has dropped.
• 34:23
  So there wouldn't be reasoned for you to do it other than
• 34:26
  farming, for your, your daily caps and such yes.
• 34:31
  When you're gearing up and you will be hitting there with
• 34:35
  leveling greens and that, obviously, it'll give you a more
• 34:40
  of a challenge, and they want to bounce that, but players and the
• 34:44
  players Is a general are way stronger with far less and have
• 34:50
  the tools that they didn't have back then.
• 34:53
  So that is my expectation. Is every time you talk about
• 34:56
  classic it's like oh this was the craziest boss Falls over in
• 35:00
  6:00 because it's solved, it's already solved.
• 35:02
  Like we're going in with the full knowledge of how these
• 35:06
  encounters work and how to deal with the mechanics and these are
• 35:10
  for the majority of people going into play.
• 35:14
  These classic experiments. They've already played before.
• 35:20
  Like we played it back when it was fresh and we're going back
• 35:24
  in and trying her hand at it again a second time.
• 35:28
  And so, for me, that's that's kind of how I'm looking at it.
• 35:31
  I'm looking at at trying to to enjoy the game for what I wanted
• 35:38
  to enjoy it as that. I didn't get the opportunity to
• 35:41
  enjoy it. As my first time through, which
• 35:45
  was at a at a high level, at a high level of rating that I
• 35:49
  like, I had, just my very first read that I ever stepped into
• 35:52
  was trial of the grand Crusader. Okay, well, now you're going to
• 35:57
  have your chance to try and get your deathless.
• 36:02
  Is it? What's the next achieve that you
• 36:04
  go through the entire thing without dying?
• 36:06
  Gosh, I'm dying. I think undying be undone.
• 36:08
  Yes. Yeah.
• 36:09
  Now is your chance? Yes. but, Either way, we are
• 36:17
  very swiftly approaching both pre patch and the actual release
• 36:23
  of the expansion itself and I think that they're still
• 36:28
  continuing to to, you know, get beta waves out or get invite
• 36:32
  waves for the for the Wrath beta.
• 36:34
  So if it's something that you're interested in, definitely head
• 36:36
  over to the the warcraft classic website and sign up for the beta
• 36:43
  because they're, they're still, they're still trying to get as
• 36:45
  many Blend as possible to get testing done.
• 36:48
  I think they just concluded the like first round of boss or Raid
• 36:54
  boss testing this week, I don't know.
• 36:57
  We don't know exactly how much more testing they're going to do
• 37:01
  on it, but they did fix a couple of bugs including one, that had
• 37:06
  Patchwork spotting one of the one of the enemies that explodes
• 37:10
  and does a whole bunch of damage right on top of the rain, so
• 37:14
  that was fun. But other than that, there's not
• 37:17
  really much in the way of testing that needs to be done
• 37:20
  outside of just balancing because they, they do want to
• 37:23
  make the game a little bit more challenging than it was the
• 37:26
  first time around, like not terribly challenging, where no
• 37:29
  one's going to be able to complete the content day one,
• 37:32
  but they want to give something that's a little bit more
• 37:35
  substantial to chew on than what we've gotten in.
• 37:41
  The past. Yeah.
• 37:42
  Especially with an axe where when it came back in Wrath,
• 37:45
  everybody said oh there's over nerfed.
• 37:47
  Yes. Yes.
• 37:48
  Very much over nerfed and they had made a couple of adjustments
• 37:52
  but I think from the from the initial Ray testing everyone
• 37:55
  still just like not too easy still.
• 37:57
  So we'll see we'll see how that pans out this episode of four as
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• 38:23
  Okay? And so with that, we are going
• 38:26
  to talk and change gears to talk about the while.
• 38:30
  Variety show that popped up, all those gun.
• 38:32
  What in the world is this? So just yesterday they announced
• 38:37
  that they're putting on a variety show.
• 38:40
  They're putting on a stream on August 24th.
• 38:44
  That will be a 3 event stream with prizes and laughter and
• 38:53
  merriment and whole bunch of fun for everybody.
• 38:56
  But this is going to be, it's going to be a bit of a bit of a
• 39:00
  show that they're putting on so they're going to have for
• 39:04
  Warcraft, celebrities come in and they are going to be
• 39:07
  captaining teams through various challenges.
• 39:11
  In this in this variety show. The first of, which is a
• 39:14
  leveling Showdown. So each of these four teams will
• 39:17
  be getting together and each team will have one hour to see
• 39:23
  how how far they can go to see how many levels they can achieve
• 39:29
  in that hour. So we'll have that, which will
• 39:34
  be the first a little bit of the stream.
• 39:35
  Then after that, there will be a scavenger hunt where these teams
• 39:39
  will be a faced with With a, with a list of tasks that need
• 39:42
  to be completed. And whoever completes the most
• 39:45
  tasks, I don't, I don't know, I don't know that.
• 39:48
  They said, what the time limit on that one's going to be but I
• 39:51
  can probably guess it's going to be about an hour as well.
• 39:53
  But either way, there will be a scavenger hunt, whoever
• 39:57
  completes their whichever team completes the most tasks wins
• 40:00
  that round and then finally, it will be capped off with a with a
• 40:05
  free-for-all foot race through Azeroth.
• 40:07
  So everyone will be running as fast as they.
• 40:10
  Cayenne and trying to get to the finish line.
• 40:14
  In whatever way, whatever way they can as quickly as they
• 40:18
  possibly can. So it'll be a whole lot.
• 40:23
  Whole lot of fun with these events.
• 40:26
  And there's a, of course that they have put out a press
• 40:31
  release covering the variety show and all the details of like
• 40:36
  how to participate, how to how to sign up.
• 40:39
  Because oh the other thing, the other thing is that these the
• 40:41
  team's themselves are going to be people that are selected.
• 40:44
  Did randomly. So you'll have there's a signup
• 40:50
  period. I think sign-ups are already
• 40:52
  available. Will be able to sign up through
• 40:56
  11 a.m. Pacific Time on August 15th, is
• 40:58
  when signups in, and The, the participants will be chosen from
• 41:05
  there and everything will be coordinated.
• 41:07
  You'll be able to hop in and for the event and participate and
• 41:13
  each of these, each of these events has a little bit
• 41:15
  different so they're going to have with the footrace.
• 41:18
  I think they're opening it up to like way more people than just
• 41:21
  the initial team. So it may be something like
• 41:25
  similar to similar to like the running of the trolls of the the
• 41:29
  running of the Gnomes event, where there's just like a bunch
• 41:32
  of And it's just going to be pure chaos.
• 41:34
  I don't know exactly how they're going to do that or what that's
• 41:37
  going to look like, but it's going to be a hoot nonetheless,
• 41:40
  and all throughout this whole thing, they're going to be doing
• 41:43
  various giveaways, including stuff, like game time in-game
• 41:47
  mounts and pets and a couple of specials surprises mixed in
• 41:53
  along the way. So we don't really know exactly
• 41:55
  what that could be. I would imagine maybe they're
• 41:58
  gonna be doing like like a maybe, maybe a collector's
• 42:02
  edition. Good fight.
• 42:04
  And who knows? It?
• 42:05
  Don't throw words in their mouths but we don't know.
• 42:07
  I'm not gonna we do. I'm just I'm just speculating
• 42:10
  your specialization here. I heard I heard and maybe maybe
• 42:17
  lives got this inside info. No, no sure relation.
• 42:21
  This is fall down, wishful thinking.
• 42:24
  This sounds amazing. This sounds incredibly
• 42:27
  enjoyable. I am going to sign up for the
• 42:30
  foot. Raise the scavenger hunt?
• 42:33
  This is even if I don't get in. I'm sure I'm going to I'm going
• 42:36
  to sign up, I hope they pick like from their celebrities.
• 42:41
  I hope they pick not people from the more hardcore end but I'd
• 42:46
  love to see team hazelnutty, team hottie chicken.
• 42:53
  That's those are the people that I wanted these team captains,
• 42:56
  right? I'd love to see like ej4 lead a
• 43:01
  team from girls gone. Wow, just like Those are the
• 43:03
  people like the, you know, the the people who are like the
• 43:05
  heart of these communities, those are the people I want to
• 43:07
  see. I don't like limit X is
• 43:12
  analytical and he is a fierce competitor, but that's not what
• 43:17
  I want for this. Yeah, yeah, yeah like as much as
• 43:21
  so. Here's the other thing like this
• 43:23
  is this is like a personal wish of mine is like they get like
• 43:26
  Kristian Nairn to come in. Okay, one of the fumes like
• 43:31
  that, I would have never I saw a celebrity Just like, oh, like
• 43:34
  celebrity celebrity that. That's where I thought they were
• 43:37
  going with it, but I could be wrong.
• 43:39
  Could be wrong, recently started streaming Warcraft to Christian
• 43:44
  are, so they, yeah, they are there.
• 43:46
  That's a thought that's, that's a very solid guess, you know
• 43:49
  what they do to do? They got to get mr.
• 43:52
  T and give him a night, elf Mohawk and have him run - like
• 44:01
  this gate everybody from the Yells everybody from the
• 44:04
  commercial. Oh gosh, I don't know.
• 44:09
  But they could grab. Okay.
• 44:10
  It's 44 of the people from the commercials.
• 44:12
  Sure you can't get Ozzy like, oh, that's easy.
• 44:17
  But like top two picks Kristian Nairn.
• 44:19
  And oh, what's his name? Geralt of Rivia.
• 44:26
  Oh gosh. What is the name?
• 44:30
  Somebody, isn't it getting the comments?
• 44:32
  Somebody, somebody give me comments.
• 44:34
  Let me know. I'm not, I don't know, I don't
• 44:37
  remember. But I tell you what, we're going
• 44:40
  to name the the episode after the acting, he forgot.
• 44:44
  So everybody who is watching this or listening to, this
• 44:48
  episode will know because I've refresh their memory.
• 44:51
  Stop looking at, I see you're on your phone, stop it.
• 44:54
  When you think I am. Let's hang your hat on.
• 44:57
  I'm editing that out if nobody's gonna know that you got it.
• 45:03
  Perfect. Perfect.
• 45:05
  Okay, so yes, this, this is going to be a lot of fun.
• 45:08
  I if they bring people from the streaming Community, they bring
• 45:12
  big name actors, who are genuinely loving.
• 45:15
  Wow, all of that. Would be amazing.
• 45:17
  Yes, they brought in Henry Cavill.
• 45:19
  That would be fantastic, but that It is, that is coming up
• 45:27
  again, August 24th on Twitch. It is actually quite strange
• 45:32
  that they've got something on Twitch which means that they're
• 45:34
  looking at, maybe their YouTube content because all this stuff
• 45:38
  over on YouTube. Yeah, it's go back to Twitch,
• 45:41
  please guys, please. Anyways.
• 45:45
  Moving on, we have seen feedback Galore from the alpha and I
• 45:54
  think this is really where dragonflight is going to be made
• 45:59
  or fall apart because as I've said in other places them,
• 46:06
  speaking of this new philosophy of this of these new ideas for
• 46:11
  how they are going to do, the game is won.
• 46:14
  Thing. But actually putting that into
• 46:17
  application. It's nothing and what we're
• 46:19
  really going to see that come out is really when there are
• 46:23
  vocal people in the player base, remember that a player base is
• 46:26
  multiple people, and not everybody has the same idea, but
• 46:29
  there are vocal people within the playerbase bringing feedback
• 46:32
  and how they respond to that feedback.
• 46:34
  How they Work things to maybe address that feedback, even if
• 46:40
  it is not the idea that the person brings forward is going
• 46:42
  to be very important and like like I said before, we have
• 46:47
  gotten a lot of feedback. So live.
• 46:48
  Do you want to go through some of this stuff?
• 46:50
  Yeah. So the I guess I guess just a
• 46:55
  contextualized stuff a little bit for the feedback that we got
• 47:00
  this week. I think it's important to go
• 47:03
  over. What was added in the alpha
• 47:05
  Helix is being like a bill that we've entirely Miss between
• 47:08
  episodes. Yes.
• 47:10
  So they added in jewelcrafting and leatherworking and we've
• 47:15
  started to see how those professions are going to shape
• 47:18
  out. We've seen the wicking Shores
• 47:21
  own added. So the, the first week and For
• 47:24
  we had was the Azure spam. It was the first week and then
• 47:28
  so that zone was was shut off. And then, with the, the reset
• 47:33
  for the alpha build last week, they turned on waking Shores,
• 47:38
  which is the very first Zone that we're going to be seeing
• 47:41
  when going into into the expansion proper.
• 47:45
  And so we get to play around with that a little bit.
• 47:47
  I did, I did some initial testing there and went through
• 47:51
  and did that and as well as the The waking Shores.
• 47:55
  We got the starting zone for the drag fear and got to play around
• 48:00
  with that a little bit. And I went through that as well.
• 48:03
  I don't know if you did Manny, but I thoroughly enjoyed going
• 48:06
  through that. That starting zone for, for the
• 48:08
  tractor. Yeah.
• 48:09
  The, the starting zone for the director that was on our last
• 48:13
  episode. It's now with the waking Shores
• 48:16
  that you're talking about, that's what we haven't had a
• 48:18
  chance to speak to the audience about.
• 48:20
  Yeah, yes, but I didn't get to go through.
• 48:25
  Not all of the questing in wicking.
• 48:27
  Sure is but the majority of it, I had made time cut short.
• 48:32
  I'm going through there and unfortunately won't be able to
• 48:37
  do too much testing until they turn that zone back on.
• 48:40
  But from what I did see it's fantastic, it's utterly
• 48:44
  wonderful and I can't wait to get into it proper but I'm also
• 48:49
  I'm also when it comes to like testing through like actual
• 48:52
  story stuff, I tend to be a little bit More reserved on
• 48:56
  going through that content. Because it's something that I
• 48:58
  want to, like I do have, I do feel like I have a duty to jump
• 49:03
  in when I am in these, these testing areas to, you know, go
• 49:09
  in and give like a proper run-throughs to so that I can
• 49:11
  get feedback. But I also want to preserve as
• 49:13
  much of it as possible for the actual experience of going
• 49:17
  through it for the first time when I do get to it.
• 49:19
  So I'm not really focusing too much on that.
• 49:22
  I'm focusing more on the mechanics.
• 49:24
  Side of things with the classes and everything.
• 49:27
  And speaking of classes, we got a couple of new talent trees
• 49:31
  included in the latest build, which were all three Mage talent
• 49:36
  trees. So, so the Base Class tree and
• 49:40
  all three of Frost fire and Arcane were added into the game
• 49:45
  as well as retribution and protection Paladin.
• 49:49
  They did note that they're still working on holy and it's not
• 49:52
  quite where they want it to be. With with where they are
• 49:56
  comfortable with, putting it out in front of the audience for
• 49:59
  testing, they and, you know, read into that what you will.
• 50:04
  But they're they're doing what they can to get that in front of
• 50:07
  us as quickly as possible but they did want to get the
• 50:11
  protection and retribution trees out in front of out in front of
• 50:15
  everyone so they could start getting feedback on that as
• 50:18
  quickly as possible which is which is good.
• 50:21
  And I've gone through and looked at All of the trees for for me
• 50:27
  Edge and Paladin and played around with a little bit, just
• 50:31
  to, just to kind of try and start familiarizing myself with
• 50:33
  it. And they've already started
• 50:36
  already started collecting feedback on that.
• 50:39
  We also got the Ruby Life Pools. Done genetic testing, which we
• 50:44
  myself and a couple of other people from Bonus World
• 50:46
  Productions. Got a little group together and
• 50:49
  ran the dungeon heroic mode and it was a cakewalk But Cakewalk
• 50:56
  in the sense that it's just beautiful.
• 50:59
  It's just a beautiful dungeon. It is, it is a wedding cake walk
• 51:05
  and we had a lot of fun with it. And there's actually a video,
• 51:10
  documenting, our are run through of the, the dungeon which I did
• 51:16
  the voiceover for. So if you want to check that
• 51:17
  out, however, the bonus rule Productions, YouTube channel, of
• 51:20
  course, Let's see. We also got some changes to
• 51:23
  dragon Which we're in the, they put in the talent system for
• 51:28
  dragon writing, so we'll be able to.
• 51:30
  We've started to be able to see how the progression system of
• 51:34
  dragon writing is going to work throughout the expansion.
• 51:37
  They made a couple of changes, which have been controversial to
• 51:41
  how Turning Works in midair. Which a lot of people gave the
• 51:46
  immediate feedback of this feels like garbage now and being being
• 51:51
  hyperbolic of course, but it definitely feels A little bit.
• 51:55
  You're being hyperbolic with that feedback.
• 51:57
  Exactly some people. It's some people like you know,
• 52:01
  there were people who are proper wordsmiths that put it through
• 52:04
  eloquently and there were some people who decided not to use
• 52:07
  the full 240 characters on Twitter.
• 52:10
  And basically said, this feels like garbage.
• 52:12
  So like, you know, but I agree that it is a change and when
• 52:20
  you're used to or have experienced it without the
• 52:23
  change it Is an additional constraint, it feels worse to
• 52:27
  have that constraint, but if you haven't done Dragon riding
• 52:31
  before, it is a again, a part about keeping momentum.
• 52:36
  If you check turn to tightly, right?
• 52:40
  You can't shift that momentum. So you do want to do more
• 52:43
  gradual, turn to keep that weight and momentum going.
• 52:48
  And so it makes sense with what they're doing with it.
• 52:51
  I just think it is a matter of relearning when I when I was
• 52:56
  playing through it and I was initially going, I was like, oh
• 52:59
  okay this doesn't feel bad and then when I tried to do a sharp
• 53:02
  turn and I like you just you just Cut all of that momentum,
• 53:08
  that's when it really felt. So again, I like there's the
• 53:14
  impression there is the design intent.
• 53:17
  There's like a lot of things that are going on with their.
• 53:19
  So I don't think that the people who are currently up in arms
• 53:26
  about it have really felt anything beyond it.
• 53:31
  Other than oh, I was able to do this last week and this week, I
• 53:34
  can't, I can't do it. Well, and something something
• 53:37
  that I think needs to be considered is that they may they
• 53:41
  may include talents that assist in turning that make it.
• 53:46
  So we're you, you know, maintain a little bit more momentum in a
• 53:50
  little bit sharper. Turns like I don't think will be
• 53:53
  ever able to be at a point where we could do, like the pinpoint,
• 53:57
  you know, complete 180 turns that we were able to do week one
• 54:01
  of alpha. But certainly certainly, there
• 54:04
  has to be something in the Entries that assist with that a
• 54:08
  little bit because it is, it is something that I feel like
• 54:11
  because like aerial momentum Works differently than, like
• 54:18
  angular momentum on flat ground, like it really, just it just
• 54:22
  works differently and we don't even have to worry about
• 54:25
  momentum. At all on on the ground because
• 54:29
  it's just a singular speed that we're either stationary or we're
• 54:34
  going that speed and there is no in between, we don't have to
• 54:37
  worry about that. So the like it's just at low
• 54:40
  speeds, you're right? We don't have to worry about
• 54:42
  momentum but we're not getting it the physics here.
• 54:44
  Um, I think that the best way to think about it is like when you
• 54:50
  are seeing planes turn in the air, they don't turn on a no
• 54:55
  right corner at a 90 degree angle.
• 54:57
  And go, there is a curve to that turd.
• 55:00
  It's the same thing that when you see these dragons circling
• 55:03
  each other in the air, they're not like standing still and just
• 55:08
  being like, Oh breath weapons. Ready?
• 55:12
  Circling each other, they are like doing a turn and having to
• 55:16
  like, look over their shoulder, that's natural because that's
• 55:19
  how Airborne momentum works for that.
• 55:21
  Your you aren't expecting to see ya.
• 55:25
  Anything just suddenly like Be like and right, turn shoot the
• 55:30
  shoot beam and then continue go going the direction that that is
• 55:35
  drastically unnatural and yes in the game it seemed to work but
• 55:39
  like as they're trying to make dragon flying and actual
• 55:43
  consequential skill based system.
• 55:46
  I think adding in these thoughtful Expressions, makes it
• 55:53
  more engaging. Yeah, I agree.
• 55:55
  I agree at the end of the day. Hey But that's not the only
• 55:59
  thing that was added. They also added in some
• 56:01
  accessibility changes, where they, they put, in an option to
• 56:06
  reduce motion sickness. So, anyone that was experiencing
• 56:12
  motion sickness from just the shaking similar to how they
• 56:17
  added in, or are adding an options for guess they have
• 56:22
  already added in the options in retail or in In the forward,
• 56:29
  current patch for the, for Grim rail.
• 56:32
  Depot. Oh, yes.
• 56:34
  They added that back in in Legion, I'm not even sorry.
• 56:38
  I mean, they added that back. When the legion time walking
• 56:42
  came, it brought more souls back or when Warlords time walking
• 56:49
  brought back well Grim reality but wasn't part of my work time
• 56:53
  mocking because they avoided bring it back because the motion
• 56:56
  sickness. Yes.
• 56:57
  But those options for reducing motion.
• 57:00
  Sickness have been a reducing screen shake for those that are
• 57:05
  prone to motion. Sickness have been added in for
• 57:08
  dragon writing as well, which I think, is a wonderful change
• 57:12
  because it like the the shaking the screen shaking does, you
• 57:16
  know, add like a little bit of an element of realism to what's
• 57:19
  going on, but it's not necessary for the whole system itself to
• 57:26
  Be rewarding or be you know technically satisfying like it's
• 57:31
  just it's not like completely necessary.
• 57:33
  So the ability to turn it off, definitely a plus and then the
• 57:37
  last thing they added in for dragon writing was a couple of
• 57:39
  the customization options that will have access to as we're
• 57:43
  progressing through the expansion because we're going to
• 57:46
  basically be choosing like a base model dragon that we're
• 57:50
  going to be carrying through the the expansion.
• 57:55
  And there will be certain appearance unlocks that will be
• 57:58
  able to have access to as we're going through questing as we're
• 58:01
  doing different achievements, as we're doing various activities
• 58:04
  throughout the dragon Isles themselves.
• 58:08
  And we've started to see those be implemented in the game.
• 58:12
  And they're all, they're all red as hell.
• 58:15
  So definitely more stuff to look forward to.
• 58:19
  Speaking of things looking rat as hell though.
• 58:23
  They have also added in some more you by Ages including
• 58:26
  adding in a grid system like we requested think Manny you would
• 58:31
  specifically requested a grid or for you I so and I can't say for
• 58:36
  this, I literally tweet it out there was like can you add it a
• 58:39
  grid system or just any way to like lock it to Center?
• 58:43
  Yeah, so they've added in that. You can toggle in the in the
• 58:46
  edit mode they have changed the default unit frame position from
• 58:52
  up in the left corner of the screen to Near your character.
• 58:57
  So you now can choose between modern and classic which classic
• 59:02
  being top left and modern being close to your character.
• 59:06
  So you don't have to constantly move it, but of course the the
• 59:10
  unit frames will be movable just like everything else in the UI
• 59:15
  and that functionality was also added into to the edit mode for
• 59:19
  you. I they've also added a stance
• 59:21
  bar. I think Warriors maybe have
• 59:25
  stances. Is that correct?
• 59:27
  Well stances aren't just. Well Warriors, we don't know if
• 59:32
  Warriors are gaining stances but they haven't had stances for a
• 59:35
  while. However, stances include
• 59:37
  something like when you have a druid and shifting into the
• 59:41
  different forms, that's the same on The Stance bar, right?
• 59:44
  Yes. So and I guess like palette and
• 59:47
  Aras and Shadow form for shadow priests as well.
• 59:52
  I think that also fits our slots into the end of Dance bar, so
• 59:57
  it's good. It's good.
• 59:58
  That it's added that it's being also implemented into into the
• 1:00:03
  game because I think a lot of people have had to do some
• 1:00:06
  finagling to get something similar in.
• 1:00:11
  Their you eyes using third-party add-on since they kind of
• 1:00:15
  removed stances as an idea. Well, no, those bars were still
• 1:00:20
  around, it's just that they weren't included in what you
• 1:00:23
  could modify with this updated UI.
• 1:00:25
  So it's very Really weird. And there's a couple more of
• 1:00:27
  those things that they still need to put in.
• 1:00:29
  So your vehicle bar for some of it is like right there as bar,
• 1:00:36
  one wherever you set your initial bar, that's where it's
• 1:00:38
  at but resources. So when your dragon riding and
• 1:00:43
  you have your entire recharging Vigor and the three-point system
• 1:00:47
  or goes up to whatever at the cap, that you can't move around
• 1:00:51
  your extra action button or your Zone wide.
• 1:00:55
  So if you're running around Warlords and you've gotten those
• 1:00:58
  own buttons that currently can't be shifted around but they've
• 1:01:01
  used that in a number of places as well when you're doing tour
• 1:01:05
  gas and you get the ability to activate your tour, gas power,
• 1:01:08
  that's actually a Zone ability that currently can't be
• 1:01:12
  modified. So I would want that because
• 1:01:15
  they're obviously going to use it again and then of course
• 1:01:18
  there's all these other things that they are going to be adding
• 1:01:22
  into this, I'd love them to add snapped.
• 1:01:25
  To grid now that we've got a grid.
• 1:01:27
  So it's not just being like lineup and stuff.
• 1:01:29
  Again, it was just for people who maybe don't have the
• 1:01:32
  dexterity to line something up by hand or by their eyesight,
• 1:01:39
  being able to do a snap. The grid would be greatly
• 1:01:41
  helpful and have that work. And also the map currently can't
• 1:01:45
  be modified. Yeah, get that shifted to.
• 1:01:49
  So yeah, there's a number of things.
• 1:01:50
  Yeah, and I think I think something else that is worth
• 1:01:54
  noting is that they have Didn't some some unit frame
• 1:01:58
  customizations that were data mind but not the haven't been
• 1:02:02
  added incorrect or improperly to the game yet, so we don't have
• 1:02:07
  anything beyond just like the basic unit frame.
• 1:02:10
  So that your player and Target frame, still are the exact same
• 1:02:14
  as they are in retail. They just learn a different
• 1:02:18
  position now but the those customizations I believe should
• 1:02:22
  be coming soon TM CR. Maybe.
• 1:02:25
  We don't know. But the last big thing that was
• 1:02:28
  changed in this latest Alphas alpha build was that they
• 1:02:32
  removed Barbershop costs entirely not in the game
• 1:02:36
  anymore. You can just go to a barbershop
• 1:02:38
  and and throw on whatever you want free of charge.
• 1:02:41
  No gold, no, gold cost to it anymore.
• 1:02:43
  And I really hope I really, really, really, really hope that
• 1:02:46
  whoever pushed for that to happen, is also pushing for
• 1:02:50
  transmog to get the same treatment.
• 1:02:52
  I mean, that is I needed. Now heavily, no it's already
• 1:02:58
  free on trial of style and I like that because it makes try
• 1:03:02
  low Style special when I'm like oh good free, free transmog,
• 1:03:06
  this stuff but yeah with all the new customization stuff that the
• 1:03:11
  Dirac theater have, maybe You Can't customize your track their
• 1:03:15
  day one. But at least you know that you
• 1:03:18
  can jump back and do all of that customization from from The
• 1:03:22
  Barbershop instead of the character customization screen
• 1:03:25
  and It's free of charge and as they bring up all the other
• 1:03:27
  races to that level, which they said will be a long-term goal.
• 1:03:32
  Getting all of that free of charge is such a great thing for
• 1:03:35
  them to do for the community. Yeah, when we got the redone
• 1:03:39
  models back, when they were revamping the models, this is
• 1:03:42
  something people ask for. Can you give us a free service?
• 1:03:48
  So that we can. Like, if it doesn't seem like
• 1:03:50
  what I wanted, but now it's just by default.
• 1:03:53
  That's what you can do, and I love that.
• 1:03:57
  But moving on from that, all of that stuff is what was in the
• 1:04:02
  bill that is ending today, but they've been taking feedback,
• 1:04:08
  the devastation invoker's that is the new class / race
• 1:04:13
  combination DPS built. They were talking about how that
• 1:04:19
  tree has been shaking out and this is one of the first trees
• 1:04:22
  and they're already talking about how they're going to
• 1:04:24
  adjust it. They said that really there are
• 1:04:28
  strong signals for the red dragon flight, build or the blue
• 1:04:34
  build. And there isn't much that, that
• 1:04:37
  sets up a combination. When I was talking with a couple
• 1:04:40
  of creators, they were saying much the same and I was saying,
• 1:04:45
  no, no. What it really seems to be is
• 1:04:48
  that you're supposed to mix in the to and we've the to, to like
• 1:04:51
  get a special thing and that is really what blizzard is.
• 1:04:55
  The intention is like, you can specialize in the red.
• 1:04:58
  You can specialize in the blue but you really should be mixing
• 1:05:01
  by default and there are rearranging the talents
• 1:05:05
  accordingly. Effects that will scale with, in
• 1:05:10
  power, with a power level, such as the power, swell and tyranny.
• 1:05:17
  Were being criticized. As removing games gameplay by
• 1:05:20
  indicating, that was always correct to go for the full fully
• 1:05:25
  empowered version of your spouse.
• 1:05:26
  And that's true. When you have something that is
• 1:05:28
  saying that, like, Hey, we're going to give you X bonus /
• 1:05:32
  empowerment level then even when you are doing something that is
• 1:05:36
  the same amount of damage to that one target, you're hitting.
• 1:05:39
  And then, based on empowerment level will hit two, three, four,
• 1:05:44
  extra targets. That don't exist.
• 1:05:47
  The only reason you would do that is because you have a
• 1:05:49
  talent that says do it anyways because then you'll get four
• 1:05:54
  times the bonus. And that is something that they
• 1:05:59
  realize. Yeah, that was leading people
• 1:06:01
  down the wrong way of playing it empowerment, as you.
• 1:06:05
  And I were saying live, it shouldn't always be like, oh,
• 1:06:07
  just just make it. It just all go, always go to for
• 1:06:10
  why are you staying or three? If you don't have the talent and
• 1:06:13
  they're going to be making Corrections, in fact, power
• 1:06:17
  swell and tyranny are getting redesigned or removed entirely.
• 1:06:20
  They are also shifting around all of the all of these talents
• 1:06:25
  that to make it. More cohesive mixing, the
• 1:06:30
  elements that build Scarlet adaptation, which was seen, as
• 1:06:36
  having a larger impact on the builds.
• 1:06:39
  That it should is getting a rework so that it is able to
• 1:06:44
  affect more things. And the last thing was that blue
• 1:06:50
  blue focused, single Target builds were a little bit
• 1:06:56
  convoluted. Didn't flow as well as they
• 1:06:58
  thought. And so a lot of people When they
• 1:07:03
  were going into blue builds didn't feel that they could
• 1:07:05
  actually make a single Target blue build and they're going to
• 1:07:08
  be readjusting the positions of talents to allow that to flow
• 1:07:11
  flow better. There was a lot of that sort of
• 1:07:14
  feedback and if you look at the Mage talents and Paladin talents
• 1:07:20
  that came out this week, they seem to be following a lot of
• 1:07:24
  the Ideas that were first implemented in the shaman,
• 1:07:28
  Talent, do trees, and having a lot better flow.
• 1:07:33
  A lot more lateral decisions, not just going straight up and
• 1:07:37
  down. And so I'm really glad to see
• 1:07:39
  the feedback and the lessons already been learned.
• 1:07:42
  And we're only now reaching our. We're only three weeks into the
• 1:07:46
  alpha. This is going to be starting
• 1:07:47
  week for with build coming out today.
• 1:07:50
  Yeah, which is, it's wonderful. It's absolutely wonderful.
• 1:07:56
  Really especially looking into the other feedback around the
• 1:08:00
  other classes, talent trees that have been also changed with the
• 1:08:05
  with the latest build including Hunter and Rogue, which got
• 1:08:08
  significant reworks to all specializations and the Base
• 1:08:11
  Class trees for both of those classes.
• 1:08:15
  We I don't think I don't, I don't think that they've made a
• 1:08:20
  particular blue post about about the Rogue in particular.
• 1:08:26
  I know we haven't seen my going direct feedback.
• 1:08:28
  Yeah, yeah. So we haven't, we haven't gotten
• 1:08:31
  a response from blizzard on the Rogue stuff, but we have on the
• 1:08:33
  Hunter and there's a lot of important stuff going through
• 1:08:38
  going through the changes that were made like we've in our show
• 1:08:42
  notes, we've linked both both a just a, you know, numerical like
• 1:08:50
  tooltip by tooltip change for all of these talents that they
• 1:08:55
  got changed. The previous build to the
• 1:08:56
  current one for both Hunter and road, we've linked those but
• 1:09:01
  also we've linked the threads for the feedback threads for for
• 1:09:06
  both of these as well. And the response for the, the
• 1:09:10
  Hunter talent changes is critical because they go line by
• 1:09:16
  line and are explaining why they made the changes they made, why
• 1:09:20
  they're moving the talents from the positions that they were in
• 1:09:23
  previously to where they are currently.
• 1:09:26
  And a lot of that feedback is exactly what you said earlier.
• 1:09:29
  Manny where it's it's feedback where there are abilities that
• 1:09:33
  feel like they should be higher priority that are that were
• 1:09:37
  lower in the tree that had been brought up or brought to a more
• 1:09:41
  natural feeling spot in the tree so that it didn't feel like you
• 1:09:47
  had to take unnecessary points in order to get the things that
• 1:09:51
  you were going for in order to make a coherent build for your
• 1:09:55
  character. And that's, that's exactly the
• 1:09:58
  kind of feedback that we that we love to see.
• 1:10:01
  We just we just love to see it. Yeah.
• 1:10:04
  And nine marks was the active blue poster in the hunter
• 1:10:09
  thread, and so coming back with like clarifications or
• 1:10:14
  explanations of what people were doing was very solid as well as
• 1:10:18
  sometimes. Why there was no reason to
• 1:10:21
  actually make the change in one case, players comparing, A 2
• 1:10:26
  minute cooldown from survivors. So he's rather survival Hunters
• 1:10:30
  over to let's say one of the more impactful two-minute
• 1:10:34
  cooldowns from fire Mage doing combustion and such.
• 1:10:38
  And it was simply that that isn't a one-to-one comparison
• 1:10:44
  because the Baseline consistent damage of one Speck.
• 1:10:49
  Is different than the Baseline, consistent damage of another
• 1:10:53
  Speck. And so we're fire.
• 1:10:54
  Mages have high burst within those windows.
• 1:10:58
  Survival Hunters have a more consistent damage overall and
• 1:11:02
  therefore they can't have that Spike unless they want to lower
• 1:11:04
  valleys to go with those High Peaks.
• 1:11:07
  And I think that's a very good way of explaining some of the
• 1:11:12
  feedback even when they're like, okay, we're not going to
• 1:11:14
  actually make that adjustment. But here's why your power is
• 1:11:18
  going to exist more outside of these windows rather than inside
• 1:11:22
  the windows. And if you want the fire Mage
• 1:11:24
  sort of spikes play or something like that, there are classes
• 1:11:27
  that are That there's play differentiation between these
• 1:11:30
  different specs especially when you're in something where it's a
• 1:11:34
  ranged DPS versus another range DPS.
• 1:11:36
  What makes fire Mage appealing versus what makes a survival
• 1:11:42
  Hunter repealing should be different things because
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  otherwise they're going to be numerically this compared with 0
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  niches between them. Yeah.
• 1:11:54
  Having having the ability to Denver differentiate classes,
• 1:11:59
  Within the same role is vitally important to the health of the
• 1:12:03
  game because otherwise what ends up happening with with, you
• 1:12:09
  know, if they were to follow the design philosophy of give
• 1:12:12
  everyone the same basic tools tool kit, that just has, like
• 1:12:17
  different flavor to it. Is that whatever ends up being
• 1:12:21
  like numerically, the best will Trend towards being the, the
• 1:12:27
  more popular pick. And we already have enough of
• 1:12:29
  that. We already have way too much of
• 1:12:32
  that going on in the game as it is with with, you know, flavor
• 1:12:35
  of the month stuff. Yeah.
• 1:12:37
  People were basically arguing the issues that happen with
• 1:12:41
  homogenisation when everything is the same.
• 1:12:43
  Then you're just going to pick the best and so playing.
• 1:12:47
  A survival Hunter should be a different than playing a fire
• 1:12:50
  Mage as this example goes. But like I really like that.
• 1:12:56
  I loved the the The conversations about what you and
• 1:13:00
  I thought was the big one is, oh, well, you have again Hunter,
• 1:13:06
  Survival Hunter. And here's a thing that will
• 1:13:09
  increase the power of a lot of these range moves for survival
• 1:13:13
  Hunter and does this mean that you will be able to play a range
• 1:13:19
  survival Hunter and dragonflight well the clarification was no
• 1:13:24
  we're not going to boost the ability of these range ability.
• 1:13:27
  So much that Can it completely ignore your melee abilities and
• 1:13:31
  play Survival? Totally at range.
• 1:13:34
  It's more to allow for fights where you may have low up time
• 1:13:38
  be pushed away from the from the boss more frequently to maintain
• 1:13:45
  some damage to loot, not lose so much from having your normal
• 1:13:52
  damage disruptive and that goes into a sub spec sort of thing.
• 1:13:58
  It is with these talents. It is possible to create the
• 1:14:02
  return of gladiator, Warrior the yeah.
• 1:14:06
  Absolutely. And or having like, you know,
• 1:14:11
  the conversation around Druid where you have heart of the
• 1:14:14
  wild. That is a, it's an ability that
• 1:14:17
  is or a talent, rather that's put in specifically to allow for
• 1:14:21
  you to shift into something. Other than what your your base
• 1:14:26
  specializations role is As, in order to facilitate your rate in
• 1:14:31
  some way, like they're looking. And I think that this is where
• 1:14:38
  they're going with, with the, these kind of changes they're
• 1:14:41
  making, is that the philosophy is allowing for more flexibility
• 1:14:45
  in kind of, kind of the ability to draw on these like heroic
• 1:14:51
  moments within encounters, where you can do something outside of
• 1:14:55
  your designated role for it for a brief. .
• 1:14:59
  And, you know, have that that, you know, few moments be
• 1:15:04
  something that sets you apart from other Raiders and gives you
• 1:15:08
  a feeling of doing something impactful for your team, as
• 1:15:12
  opposed to being something that is just expected for every every
• 1:15:17
  Druid to be able to do like they want to avoid the expectation to
• 1:15:22
  be a guardian Druid that when they're not the main.
• 1:15:29
  For, you know, a brief period of time to just automatically hop
• 1:15:33
  into cat form and start cat weeping like they obviously want
• 1:15:39
  that to be something that could be done.
• 1:15:42
  Briefly infrequently but not be something that is just expected
• 1:15:48
  every time. Okay, I guess I guess I I think
• 1:15:56
  there's like two things that work there, right?
• 1:15:58
  In a case of doing a sub spec, which this is not about glad
• 1:16:04
  Gladiator Warriors. Could be separated from stamps
• 1:16:10
  dancing. Like if they were to bring back
• 1:16:12
  defensive stance so that a fury Warrior, could switch into the
• 1:16:18
  defensive, hold the boss for a little bit with a, with a taunt
• 1:16:21
  in order to get the res off on the tank.
• 1:16:25
  And so, save the day, right? Rather than the boss running
• 1:16:29
  around and wiping DPS. One after the other until
• 1:16:32
  hopefully, the tank gets back up and back in there.
• 1:16:36
  Yeah. I think that is something that
• 1:16:39
  they're more leaning towards those moments of heroism that
• 1:16:42
  you're talking about where as a Gladiators spec or a range
• 1:16:48
  survival spec would be a new additional fourth.
• 1:16:54
  Fourth build that they would need to balance.
• 1:16:57
  That's the issue that happened with Gladiators.
• 1:16:59
  Like oh like yeah you can do DPS as a protection Warrior but You
• 1:17:07
  couldn't do as much DPS, they did.
• 1:17:12
  We have to balance for that. How much tanking could you do?
• 1:17:15
  Because you chose this Talent, you become less of a tank, a
• 1:17:19
  protection tank that can't maintain.
• 1:17:32
  So, in all cases, you are maintaining your role.
• 1:17:37
  Right, you're not moving from melee.
• 1:17:38
  DPS through range. DPS, you're not moving from tank
• 1:17:40
  to to DPS, but you can borrow some power from one role to add
• 1:17:47
  to another role. You can borrow some throughput
• 1:17:52
  Yeah, and I know borrow power scare you but I then you just
• 1:17:55
  said it and I had to like, get the shivers, down my spine, I
• 1:17:59
  can't, you didn't, you can shift, let's use this.
• 1:18:03
  You can shift some capability from your main role in order to
• 1:18:09
  provide additional utility additional off, roll ability and
• 1:18:16
  go from there. A really strong one is in the
• 1:18:19
  shaman tree you can. Get a cool down at the very far
• 1:18:25
  bottom of the left tree, which will allow all the damage you do
• 1:18:31
  to be. Replicated for a portion of it
• 1:18:35
  to 33 people within your party or your raid.
• 1:18:41
  If you are doing a tremendous amount of burst damage.
• 1:18:43
  During this window, you can supplement your rate.
• 1:18:47
  So in a fight where it's like oh there's a lot of burst damage.
• 1:18:52
  Do we need to get a Healer? You could be like no we don't
• 1:18:55
  need a Healer. We could have two of the shaman,
• 1:18:58
  add into this. And they will allow the other
• 1:19:02
  healing cooldowns from Your existing healers to carry
• 1:19:06
  through the day. Yeah.
• 1:19:08
  Can you have a Healer who put some points into damage?
• 1:19:14
  Reduces the amount of damage, rather than completely switching
• 1:19:17
  out of the Roll? So you that you have a 2.5
• 1:19:20
  healer one way or the other? That's the kind of shift that
• 1:19:22
  these talents are allowing rather than being like, okay, I
• 1:19:27
  am going to be built always as a damage dealer who Also heels on
• 1:19:34
  demand. Yeah, and like, the good thing
• 1:19:39
  about the the shaman example, and I do want to give praise
• 1:19:44
  where it's due on this, because I think the, the design and the
• 1:19:47
  class tree for the shamans is utterly brilliant and how
• 1:19:50
  they've laid it out, because you're not sacrificing any of
• 1:19:54
  your throughput in order to provide this, this defensive
• 1:19:59
  bonus to your raid. You are, you are not.
• 1:20:03
  That to, you know, tank your throughput, your personal
• 1:20:06
  throughput in order to get down far enough into the tree on that
• 1:20:11
  side in order to get ancestral bigger, you're not you're not
• 1:20:16
  you know, taking anything away. You're just adding a little bit
• 1:20:20
  extra to your toolkit and and I think that is absolutely
• 1:20:24
  brilliant. And I think that a lot of the
• 1:20:26
  other A lot of the other specializations like Druid, like
• 1:20:32
  like death knight, like the ones that have, you know, multiple
• 1:20:36
  roles like like a mage or a warlock or Rogue.
• 1:20:40
  You don't really expect them to, you know, bring so much utility
• 1:20:45
  as you are kind of with, with your shamans, in your Druids, in
• 1:20:49
  your paladins, but they can add utility.
• 1:20:51
  They're just not going to like add like healing.
• 1:20:54
  Not going to see a made something be like heel heel
• 1:20:56
  heel. You're gonna see them be like
• 1:20:58
  I'm going to add additional snares or or additional routes
• 1:21:02
  in order to make that my utility.
• 1:21:04
  I'm going to be able to do more things to move the group around
• 1:21:10
  as a rogue where it's like. Okay.
• 1:21:12
  Let me put some some stealth or tricks of the trade to like
• 1:21:15
  redirect. The the thing there's utility
• 1:21:18
  out there that isn't roll switching.
• 1:21:20
  Yeah, yeah. And I think I think that that's,
• 1:21:23
  that's a good place for it too because I like the way that I
• 1:21:26
  look at it is that it's allowed. Like The Clash trees
• 1:21:29
  specifically are allowing for any specialization to to take
• 1:21:35
  elements of the other specializations and roll it into
• 1:21:39
  their toolkit to allow for them to do that.
• 1:21:42
  So, the kind of along those same lines.
• 1:21:45
  What they're, what they're able to do with these peer DPS
• 1:21:48
  classes is similar to what they're doing with, with your
• 1:21:51
  Druids and your shamans and your paladins and your monks just
• 1:21:56
  just for, you know, all of all. The inclusivity of that, where
• 1:22:01
  you're able to have a little bit more mitigation, from a, from a,
• 1:22:06
  from a pal of and as a holy palette or Retribution Paladin,
• 1:22:10
  and you're able to have this extra burst healing to help.
• 1:22:15
  Keep your your red team stable as an enhancement or an
• 1:22:18
  elemental shaman. Similarly, what they're doing in
• 1:22:23
  the, the pure DPS classes, they're allowing for, for like a
• 1:22:28
  Fire Mage to take advantage of, you know, more of the slowing
• 1:22:32
  capabilities that a frost Mage would have or they're allowing
• 1:22:35
  for the man and manipulation. That a that a Arcane Mage has to
• 1:22:44
  allow for for more of that utility that, Arcane Mages, and
• 1:22:48
  bring into both fire and Frost and it's a lot more cross play
• 1:22:53
  with within that. Within that framework for mage
• 1:22:58
  as a whole. And more of that is, is needed.
• 1:23:03
  I don't think that all of the, the class trees are where I
• 1:23:09
  think that they're aiming for, I think that they're on the way I
• 1:23:12
  do think that there is an adjustment, obviously, it needs
• 1:23:15
  to be happening, but that's the purpose of the alpha, is for
• 1:23:18
  them to take a look at where things are placed in these trees
• 1:23:22
  and be able to adjust accordingly.
• 1:23:24
  Yeah. And I'm glad they're putting All
• 1:23:26
  of that feedback to work and we're seeing that development,
• 1:23:29
  we're not even a beta yet, but like Alpha is where you going to
• 1:23:31
  see the most drastic changes. So get that feedback in, we have
• 1:23:35
  seen a tweet from hlinka, that heavily suggests.
• 1:23:39
  That Warriors will be the next tree to see the light of day in
• 1:23:43
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• 1:23:46
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• 1:23:50
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