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- 0:40Speaker 2: Welcome to the Rock My Finances show on K4HD Radio
- 0:43Speaker 2: and Talk4TV, where we put the fun in finance. Join
- 0:48Speaker 2: powerhouse Jennifer Jost, CDFA, CMC, and private wealth advisor, as
- 0:53Speaker 2: she collaborates with you to create clarity, control, and confidence
- 0:58Speaker 2: with your money, your way. It's not about the zeros,
- 1:02Speaker 2: so what is it all about? Let's find out. Now,
- 1:05Speaker 2: here's your host and weekly friend, Jennifer Jost.
- 1:09Speaker 1: Hey y'all, welcome back. Okay, this is going to be
- 1:12Speaker 1: a good one. Are you underpaid or have you just
- 1:16Speaker 1: gotten too comfortable? I don't know about you, but when
- 1:19Speaker 1: I get settled into a place that I really like,
- 1:22Speaker 1: I like the people, I like my job, I like
- 1:25Speaker 1: my responsibilities, I like what's happening. We can just get
- 1:29Speaker 1: really comfortable and not want to make a change. I can't,
- 1:32Speaker 1: we can do that in relationships too, right? So comfort
- 1:35Speaker 1: is very interesting. We spend a huge part of our
- 1:38Speaker 1: lives trying to create it. We want a comfortable home.
- 1:42Speaker 1: We want, you know, like for me, I'm a blanket gal.
- 1:44Speaker 1: I like blankets and pillows. We want a comfortable income
- 1:48Speaker 1: so that we know what we can spend and we
- 1:50Speaker 1: can go out to dinner. We can go on vacations.
- 1:52Speaker 1: We want it, you know, not tight, tight, check to check,
- 1:55Speaker 1: but we want to be comfortable. We want comfortable relationships.
- 1:58Speaker 1: We don't want a lot of drama. We don't want
- 2:00Speaker 1: a lot of chaos. We don't want a lot of illness.
- 2:03Speaker 1: We don't want a lot of debt, right? We want
- 2:06Speaker 1: a comfortable routine, not up too early, or at least
- 2:10Speaker 1: if we are, it works for our body. Then one day,
- 2:13Speaker 1: the very comfort that we work so hard to create
- 2:16Speaker 1: can become the thing that keeps us stuck. This happens
- 2:20Speaker 1: to women professionally all the time. You know everybody. You
- 2:24Speaker 1: know the systems. You know the computers. You know the logons.
- 2:27Speaker 1: You know the parking. You know your vacation time. You
- 2:31Speaker 1: know your time card. You know how to make it more,
- 2:34Speaker 1: how to make it less. Your boss likes you. You
- 2:37Speaker 1: like your boss. You like his boss, her boss. You
- 2:41Speaker 1: like the boss's boss. You've been there 12 years. It's comfortable.
- 2:45Speaker 1: But here's my question. How much are you paying for
- 2:49Speaker 1: that comfort? Because comfort has a price too. Maybe you're
- 2:52Speaker 1: earning $ 85, 000 and maybe the market value is actually $ 110, 000.
- 2:56Speaker 1: So you might not even know the market value. Have
- 3:00Speaker 1: you checked it? I do have my clients do this
- 3:03Speaker 1: when I'm coaching them. I do have them look. What
- 3:06Speaker 1: is your job in your area worth? Go look. Look
- 3:11Speaker 1: in the ads. See what it's worth. See what's open,
- 3:14Speaker 1: what other jobs are open. Go on an interview. Check
- 3:17Speaker 1: it out. See what other people are willing to pay you.
- 3:20Speaker 1: Don't just think in your head, oh, well, I don't
- 3:22Speaker 1: have that master's degree. I just have a psychology degree.
- 3:24Speaker 1: Or I don't even have a degree at all, so
- 3:26Speaker 1: they won't pay me more. Don't already sabotage it by
- 3:29Speaker 1: your thought. Go see what's out there. Because if you're
- 3:32Speaker 1: being paid $ 85, 000 and somebody else is willing to pay
- 3:35Speaker 1: you $ 110, 000, that's $ 25, 000 a year and next year and
- 3:41Speaker 1: the year after that. And maybe you haven't even asked
- 3:44Speaker 1: for a promotion because you don't want the stress because
- 3:46Speaker 1: it is stressful for some ladies, right? Or actually for
- 3:49Speaker 1: all of us, probably. But that's completely legitimate if it's
- 3:52Speaker 1: a conscious decision. But sometimes we are just completely in fear.
- 3:59Speaker 1: And so we're going to stay intent. Because of fear, F-E-A-R.
- 4:05Speaker 1: Forget that. We're going to get rid of fear. I
- 4:07Speaker 1: really just don't need any more money. I'm fine. Or
- 4:12Speaker 1: they're not going to be able to afford it. Or maybe,
- 4:15Speaker 1: maybe it was just waiting for it to come instead
- 4:18Speaker 1: of asking for it. Maybe looking elsewhere will be fun
- 4:22Speaker 1: for you interviewing, right? It could be fun. You might
- 4:25Speaker 1: meet somebody new and maybe you might find out you're
- 4:28Speaker 1: overpaid where you're at instead of thinking stories up. and
- 4:32Speaker 1: having fiction in our head, let's find out exactly what's happening.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Maybe you might have to learn a new technology. Maybe
- 4:38Speaker 1: you'd have to prove yourself in a new room full
- 4:40Speaker 1: of people. Maybe comfortable feels safer than discovering what you're
- 4:46Speaker 1: really capable of. That's the conversation I want women to
- 4:49Speaker 1: have with themselves. Not, should everybody make more money? That's
- 4:53Speaker 1: not what I'm saying. I'm saying, did you choose where
- 4:57Speaker 1: you are or did you slowly stop choosing? And Just
- 5:02Speaker 1: get comfortable. That's huge. So you might hear me talk
- 5:05Speaker 1: about the diamond life once in a while. So diamond
- 5:08Speaker 1: life in my, this is my company's name, diamond life planning,
- 5:11Speaker 1: diamond life strategies. I want you to live your diamond life.
- 5:14Speaker 1: Living your diamond life is joy every day, learning something new,
- 5:20Speaker 1: being excited for the future and definitely comfortable and relaxed.
- 5:26Speaker 1: And in the flow, as we call it in diamond life,
- 5:30Speaker 1: in the flow, Maybe your diamond life is a huge
- 5:34Speaker 1: career or a seven-figure business. Or maybe it's just working
- 5:38Speaker 1: three days a week and spending four days with your
- 5:40Speaker 1: grandkids or raising more kids for yourself. Maybe it's leaving
- 5:45Speaker 1: corporate America and starting your side hustle. Or maybe your
- 5:49Speaker 1: diamond life is staying exactly where you are, comfortable, which
- 5:53Speaker 1: is great. I just want it to be a choice.
- 5:56Speaker 1: I don't want it to be a default. Women are
- 5:59Speaker 1: incredibly adaptable. I mean, how could we have gone through
- 6:03Speaker 1: everything we've done in history without being adaptable? How can
- 6:06Speaker 1: we go through labor? How can we go through all
- 6:08Speaker 1: these things, caring for our elders and their passing care
- 6:10Speaker 1: for our kids, and then they're going out on their own?
- 6:12Speaker 1: We have a lot of loss in our life just
- 6:14Speaker 1: as being women, right? But we are incredibly adaptable. So
- 6:18Speaker 1: this is one of our superpowers. We figure things out.
- 6:21Speaker 1: We adjust. We make things work out. Like I just
- 6:26Speaker 1: did this this morning. Every single time, I'm looking at
- 6:30Speaker 1: my charges on my credit cards. I swear there's fraud somewhere.
- 6:33Speaker 1: I'd have to stop and get a new credit card.
- 6:35Speaker 1: And then you're on the phone for a half an hour.
- 6:37Speaker 1: Literally today, I was doing technology for two hours just
- 6:41Speaker 1: on crap and just silly things. And it's like, I've
- 6:44Speaker 1: got nothing done. And here I am for two hours.
- 6:46Speaker 1: But we make it work, right? And then I feel
- 6:49Speaker 1: good after. Okay, I've accomplished that. I got the refrigerator
- 6:52Speaker 1: repair guy up again for the fourth time. I've got
- 6:56Speaker 1: this dentist appointment made. I've got this doctor appointment made.
- 6:59Speaker 1: I got that fraud off my credit card. I got
- 7:03Speaker 1: my other account switched to a new credit card. Like
- 7:05Speaker 1: just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. We make things happen.
- 7:09Speaker 1: But that strength has a shadow side. We can adapt
- 7:13Speaker 1: to being undervalued in relationships and work, right? We can
- 7:19Speaker 1: adapt to being overworked. We can adapt to doing two
- 7:22Speaker 1: jobs for one salary. How many times does that happen?
- 7:26Speaker 1: We can adapt to being just overlooked. Eventually, abnormal becomes normal.
- 7:32Speaker 1: And because we're handling it so well, because that's what
- 7:35Speaker 1: we do, everyone assumes it's fine, including us. We think
- 7:40Speaker 1: it's okay. I'm fine. It's good. I'm fine. Until something happens.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Maybe a new employee gets hired at your salary. Maybe.
- 7:48Speaker 1: Maybe somebody quits and then they try to put the
- 7:50Speaker 1: third job on you. Maybe someone you trained gets promoted
- 7:54Speaker 1: ahead of you. Maybe you see a job posting and
- 7:57Speaker 1: realize they're paying you $ 30, 000 more for the exact same
- 8:01Speaker 1: job that you're doing now. And suddenly we jumped to furious.
- 8:05Speaker 1: Instead of only asking, how could they do this to me?
- 8:08Speaker 1: I want you to add one more thing. How long
- 8:11Speaker 1: have I known something wasn't right? And I've said nothing.
- 8:14Speaker 1: Not to blame yourself, but to empower yourself to do
- 8:18Speaker 1: something different. Because if everything is their fault, They have
- 8:21Speaker 1: all the power. The minute you start identifying what you
- 8:25Speaker 1: can change, the power comes back to you. Maybe I
- 8:28Speaker 1: didn't say something sooner. Maybe I didn't say it in
- 8:31Speaker 1: the right way. Maybe I didn't push it. Maybe I
- 8:34Speaker 1: didn't get an attorney. I mean, there's no telling. This
- 8:38Speaker 1: is one of my favorite coaching shifts from blaming others
- 8:43Speaker 1: to making a choice. Maybe they should have recognized you
- 8:47Speaker 1: and maybe they should have paid you fairly and maybe
- 8:49Speaker 1: they should have promoted you. And maybe you're going to
- 8:53Speaker 1: do that now. That's grown woman power. Big girl panties on, right?
- 8:58Speaker 1: We don't spend five years proving how wrong they were.
- 9:01Speaker 1: We make a decision and there's another trap. Are you ready? Loyalty.
- 9:07Speaker 1: Loyalty is beautiful. I'm extremely loyal. But loyalty without reciprocity
- 9:13Speaker 1: is expensive. Your employer is allowed to make decisions based
- 9:16Speaker 1: on what's best for the company. That's their job. And
- 9:20Speaker 1: you are required to make decisions based on what's best
- 9:23Speaker 1: for you. That is not betrayal. That is not not
- 9:27Speaker 1: being loyal to your company. That is being loyal to
- 9:30Speaker 1: yourself first. This is called adulting. Yes. Same with business.
- 9:36Speaker 1: Maybe you've had the same clients for years and years
- 9:38Speaker 1: and never raised your rates. Why? Maybe they've been with me.
- 9:41Speaker 1: They've been with me forever. We always, you know, what
- 9:45Speaker 1: do they call grandmother in our founding family? clients or whatever.
- 9:49Speaker 1: That's wonderful. But does that mean that your expertise is
- 9:53Speaker 1: permanently priced at what it was 10 years ago? Of
- 9:56Speaker 1: course not. You can love your clients and still run
- 9:59Speaker 1: a very profitable, business. Again, women, we get to be,
- 10:04Speaker 1: and now I want to change to something deeper. We
- 10:08Speaker 1: get to be this. We get to be what we want.
- 10:11Speaker 1: Sometimes the biggest thing keeping us comfortable isn't the job.
- 10:15Speaker 1: It's actually our identity. I've always worked here. This is
- 10:19Speaker 1: what I do. You know, this job inside and out,
- 10:23Speaker 1: maybe you planned on retiring there forever. And you just
- 10:26Speaker 1: want to stick with that plan. Everybody knows me as,
- 10:30Speaker 1: you know, the bad-ass doer starting something new threatens the
- 10:34Speaker 1: identity that we've built at this place. That's scary. Even
- 10:38Speaker 1: a business launching a new business or doing something new
- 10:42Speaker 1: in business definitely is scary because it's like, well, that's
- 10:46Speaker 1: different than what I've been doing. So we've Will our
- 10:49Speaker 1: clients go with us? Will they stay with us? Can
- 10:52Speaker 1: we grow, right? It's scary. And that's okay to honor that.
- 10:56Speaker 1: But who says the woman that you were at 35
- 10:59Speaker 1: years old gets to make all the decisions for the
- 11:01Speaker 1: woman that you're at now, at 55, say? You are
- 11:04Speaker 1: allowed to outgrow your plan. Let's read that again. You
- 11:08Speaker 1: are allowed to outgrow your plan. That's the diamond to
- 11:12Speaker 1: life thinking. We can always grow. Do better, be better,
- 11:17Speaker 1: become better. Even in relationship or moral conversations, retire early.
- 11:21Speaker 1: Doesn't have to do anything with business at all. But
- 11:25Speaker 1: asking for what you want, need, deserve, allow yourself to
- 11:28Speaker 1: get it. We don't stay loyal to an old version
- 11:31Speaker 1: of ourselves simply because she worked really hard to get here.
- 11:35Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. I'm not who I was five years ago.
- 11:38Speaker 1: I'm not who I was a year ago. Definitely not
- 11:40Speaker 1: who I was five years ago, 10 years ago, 15
- 11:42Speaker 1: years ago. We thank her for getting us here. Thank you,
- 11:45Speaker 1: previous Jennifer. Thank you in my 20s. Thank you in
- 11:48Speaker 1: my 30s. Thank you in my 40s. Thank you in
- 11:49Speaker 1: my 50s. But this is who I am now. I'm
- 11:51Speaker 1: not a badass. I know a lot of shit. I
- 11:54Speaker 1: just do. I just do. I just know a lot
- 11:57Speaker 1: of stuff now. And then we ask ourselves the next version,
- 12:00Speaker 1: where do we want to go now? This is so fun.
- 12:03Speaker 1: Where do we want to go now? Do we want
- 12:05Speaker 1: to go bigger? Do we want to have a second home?
- 12:09Speaker 1: Do we want to scale down? Go into our smaller condo?
- 12:12Speaker 1: Do we want... a different job? Do we want completely
- 12:16Speaker 1: different side hustle? Do we want to learn how to
- 12:19Speaker 1: do our own business while we're working at this comfortable job?
- 12:22Speaker 1: That's very reasonable. Do we want to ask for more?
- 12:25Speaker 1: Do we want to sit at the table? I, my
- 12:27Speaker 1: goal for this country is to have a woman at
- 12:30Speaker 1: every decision-making table in this country. And then the world, yes,
- 12:33Speaker 1: I said it, a woman at every decision-making table in
- 12:36Speaker 1: the country. And when I say women, you know what
- 12:39Speaker 1: I mean? Basically just not pure man. Any other combination
- 12:44Speaker 1: will do because we think differently. This is my opinion.
- 12:48Speaker 1: Jennifer's opinion only is my opinion. We think differently. When
- 12:52Speaker 1: we make a decision, I have met with thousands of women,
- 12:55Speaker 1: thousands of women, and every single one of them, like
- 12:59Speaker 1: 100% of them have always wanted to have more wealth,
- 13:03Speaker 1: more money, and they always add one other person that
- 13:07Speaker 1: they want to help. It's so funny because it just happens.
- 13:11Speaker 1: We will pull others up with us to help their
- 13:15Speaker 1: lives be better. I mean, look at Dolly Parton. I'm
- 13:18Speaker 1: doing this podcast right after she passed away last week.
- 13:21Speaker 1: She is amazing. She lived her life spectacularly, not apologetic
- 13:26Speaker 1: at all. She is who she is, a badass, giving, caring,
- 13:31Speaker 1: just wonderful. Did business the way it should be done,
- 13:34Speaker 1: caring for the employees, putting people through college. She was amazing.
- 13:39Speaker 1: That is who we can actually aspire to be in whatever,
- 13:43Speaker 1: I don't know anything about her personal life. It's just
- 13:44Speaker 1: a few things that I heard about when she passed.
- 13:46Speaker 1: But she seemed to be a very genuine person. And
- 13:50Speaker 1: guess what, y'all? She used her voice. She asked for
- 13:53Speaker 1: what she wanted. She knew she deserved more. And I
- 13:56Speaker 1: know underneath that was to help other people. So if
- 13:59Speaker 1: you can't do it for yourself, do it for everybody
- 14:00Speaker 1: else you want to help. Make a list of everybody
- 14:03Speaker 1: else that you want to help and how you can
- 14:04Speaker 1: change their life. You are allowed to outgrow your plan.
- 14:07Speaker 1: All right, here comes some homework. Take out a piece
- 14:09Speaker 1: of paper in your money journal. That would be great.
- 14:12Speaker 1: Make two columns. Number one, what comfort gives me. And
- 14:17Speaker 1: the second column is what comfort costs me. Okay. Here's
- 14:21Speaker 1: an example. What comfort might give you is security, flexibility.
- 14:25Speaker 1: You might have three weeks of vacation versus a new
- 14:27Speaker 1: place would have two weeks of vacation. Relationships. I love
- 14:30Speaker 1: the people I work with. Familiarity. Maybe you like your
- 14:33Speaker 1: benefits there. Whatever is true for you, write down everything
- 14:37Speaker 1: that comfort gives you. It could be a relationship, turn
- 14:40Speaker 1: it around to a relationship. Then what does comfort cost me?
- 14:44Speaker 1: It could be costing you income. It could be costing
- 14:47Speaker 1: you growth, learning something new, expanding our brain cells, helping
- 14:51Speaker 1: keep dementia staved off. It could be costing us energy
- 14:56Speaker 1: because we're pissed off most of the time because they're
- 14:58Speaker 1: being paid more than us or they're putting another job
- 15:01Speaker 1: on me or we're exhausted at the end of the day,
- 15:04Speaker 1: being too late, coming in too early. It may be
- 15:07Speaker 1: costing us an opportunity elsewhere. It might be costing us
- 15:11Speaker 1: something spectacular. And it's definitely costing us our confidence, our
- 15:16Speaker 1: own self-worth. It's costing us our self-esteem. Then a hard answer,
- 15:22Speaker 1: then answer this hard question. If nothing changes for five years,
- 15:26Speaker 1: am I okay with that? Same income, same position, same business,
- 15:31Speaker 1: same client, same frustration, same opportunity. If nothing changes for
- 15:35Speaker 1: five years, am I okay with that? If the answer
- 15:37Speaker 1: is yes, you're clear, it's beautiful, you're all good, you
- 15:41Speaker 1: chose to stay. But if your stomach just dropped when
- 15:44Speaker 1: I asked that, pay attention to that. You don't have
- 15:47Speaker 1: to quit tomorrow, you don't have to blow up your life,
- 15:49Speaker 1: but you do need to stop pretending that you have
- 15:51Speaker 1: not heard yourself and felt your stomach. Update your resume,
- 15:54Speaker 1: research the salary, make a call, do something. Your diamond
- 15:58Speaker 1: life isn't always requiring a great big leap. Sometimes it's
- 16:01Speaker 1: just admitting I'm ready for more. Now, I say this
- 16:05Speaker 1: to my friends, clients in financial planning all the time.
- 16:07Speaker 1: If my money doesn't change, my financial world does not
- 16:11Speaker 1: change a year from now. I say a year from now,
- 16:14Speaker 1: am I okay with that? Five years from now, am
- 16:17Speaker 1: I okay with that? If I have the same expenses,
- 16:19Speaker 1: the same income, the same everything, the same savings and
- 16:22Speaker 1: five years from now, if I'm not okay with that,
- 16:24Speaker 1: you need to give me a call because we need
- 16:26Speaker 1: to fix that. I hope that makes sense, but it
- 16:29Speaker 1: gets to be your choice, your choice. Are you ready
- 16:32Speaker 1: for more? Are you ready for different? Are you ready
- 16:35Speaker 1: for growth or do you want to stay in your comfort?
- 16:38Speaker 1: And it's up to you. It is your choice. I
- 16:41Speaker 1: hope this episode helped you today and making your choice
- 16:46Speaker 1: if you want to stay in your comfort or are
- 16:49Speaker 1: you very undervalued and underpaid and it's time to do
- 16:53Speaker 1: something about it. Role play. Role play how you're going
- 16:55Speaker 1: to talk to your boss or what you're going to
- 16:57Speaker 1: ask for. I want you to be able to do
- 16:59Speaker 1: all of this and walk away and say, I rock
- 17:02Speaker 1: my finances.
- 17:04Speaker 2: Until then, let's all say, I rock my finances.