Latest / Millennial Mustard Seed / S4 58. My Supernatural life – The Days of Noah Podcast
Transcript
- 0:01Welcome back to the show. This one is a little bit
- 0:04different. You guys, this is me being
- 0:06interviewed on the days of Noah podcast which is hosted by Pete
- 0:11and Luke. They are brothers.
- 0:13They got a really great show going over there.
- 0:16And I want you guys to go give them some support, Link in the
- 0:20description of the show notes as to where you can find the days
- 0:23of Noah podcast and leave them a five-star rating and review and
- 0:28yeah, keep it simple. And quick, and right to the
- 0:31point, right? So, did I ever tell you my life
- 0:33story? I'm just kidding.
- 0:36You're about to hear that in a second.
- 0:38So with all that being said, I hope you guys got a laugh out of
- 0:41that, but seriously, this is me being interviewed.
- 0:44And it covers some chasms, some things that have been left out
- 0:50over the course of these last four years here on the podcast.
- 0:53So, if you'd like to know what happened, some of what happened
- 0:58throughout the course of my life, Then stay tuned because
- 1:01we're going to get right into it and I'm ready.
- 1:04Are you guys ready? Welcome to the days of Noah
- 1:18podcast, where we talk all things biblical Supernatural and
- 1:22strange? Today, we have a special guest
- 1:25with us, Rodney Smith, the host and creator of the millennial
- 1:30Mustard Seed, pod cast. And we're privileged to have
- 1:34Rodney with us as he shares life's journey, his ups and
- 1:38downs, his testimony, and how God has been faithful through
- 1:42it. All, even allowing him to
- 1:44understand some of the more stranger Supernatural things
- 1:48that Rodney has been through, providing a Biblical context for
- 1:52it. It's really cool to get a chance
- 1:55to talk to Rodney a especially because the different ways that
- 2:00our shows in many ways our tracking along the same lines
- 2:05and so it was a privilege to get acquainted with Rodney and we
- 2:10look forward to working with him more in the future.
- 2:12Make sure to go and check out Rodney's podcast.
- 2:15Once again it's called the millennial Mustard Seed and I'll
- 2:18make sure to have a link to it in the description.
- 2:21Give him some support and love on here.
- 2:23Is show and let's get started talking to Rodney.
- 2:34Overtime shifts. So I'm at at the fire station,
- 2:37we get a call. I'll let you guys have it and
- 2:40I'll jump back in. That's right.
- 2:43Yeah so welcome Rodney Smith. So you the Creator and and soul
- 2:48host of the millennial must. Sorry my butchered that the
- 2:53Creator and soul host of the millennial Mustard Seed, pod
- 2:57cast, And that's been going what about for years?
- 3:01Yeah we're on season four. I had a show before that called
- 3:04not of this world that went for a little over a year, okay.
- 3:08And that was a horrendous audio quality and I was just kind of
- 3:12get in front of a microphone and taking a step of Faith, just
- 3:15doing something right. Are those episodes still out
- 3:17there? Yeah this is still out there I
- 3:19don't recommend the real ones. Yeah it's just you know, a mini
- 3:25audio library, just kind of talking about more Fievel.
- 3:29Okay, it's still out there though.
- 3:30Yeah, yeah, good deal. Listen.
- 3:33We talked a little last night about a few things, kind of what
- 3:37we wanted to to discuss, but yeah, for the most part, it's,
- 3:41you know, about you your testimony with Christ your
- 3:45podcast, you're the issue that almost ended the podcasts and
- 3:51then I thought also, if we have time, you know, just about kind
- 3:55of how our shows are really similar and kind of dovetail
- 3:59with one another. I think I first found you, I
- 4:02don't know three months ago. Something like that.
- 4:06When I was I think I was stalked Earl or saying or someone just
- 4:10more episodes of her on different shows and found that
- 4:14you had had interviewed here and I was a little jealous of course
- 4:17because we've been trying to get Lauren, but like we talked last
- 4:21night, we're planning to do that second half of this year so
- 4:25that'll be good. But yeah, Luke and I started
- 4:28Last November we were just fans of blurry creatures and wanted
- 4:35to talk about similar things, not necessarily the creature
- 4:38aspect, but maybe more of how the Nephilim and the biblical
- 4:43stories ties into current world events and end times and all of
- 4:48that stuff. So but yeah, I guess start kind
- 4:52of with whatever you want to start with, you know, with your
- 4:56testimony or whatever you want to talk about with your Your
- 4:58life and then we'll kind of move from there to the podcast side
- 5:02of things. So, Yeah.
- 5:04Sounds great. I want to do a real quick
- 5:06prayer. Yeah absolutely let's do that.
- 5:09Father I thank you for this opportunity.
- 5:12Ask for wisdom. Peace.
- 5:14And a sound mind or God. That anything that I shared, my
- 5:18testimony will be helpful to someone else out there and I
- 5:22thank you for these two men who are diving deeper into your word
- 5:26and just seeking the faith is that you would bless their show
- 5:29and grow it in season and we just give you all the praise.
- 5:33Thank you for the breath. Life.
- 5:34Thank you for this new day in Christ's name, we pray.
- 5:38Hey man, thanks Ronnie. Well, it's interesting story and
- 5:43I've wrestled with how much to share just because I'm still
- 5:46processing a lot of it. Myself sure today's interesting
- 5:50because it's Shavuot shibata. I don't know if I'm saying that
- 5:54correctly, and I'm not big on Jewish holidays, and I don't, I
- 5:58don't have the mental capacity to try to understand like
- 6:01everything is like going on, but I know when there's like
- 6:03talking, Things I try to just reflect and talk with God and
- 6:06say where am I supposed to be? What are you trying to show me
- 6:10in these Seasons? These time slots that were in
- 6:13and I think it's really interesting that the interview
- 6:16was scheduled for today, huh. So a little bit of reflection
- 6:20and just testimony and making a declaration of God's goodness
- 6:23and seeing how he has brought us alone.
- 6:26A lot of the times we like to think, oh, we're content
- 6:29creators were influencers, but God works in us and through us
- 6:33to cause his To come about. So yeah with with dr.
- 6:37Laura Schlessinger. Just to address that real quick.
- 6:39She has been in my life for a few years now actually it was
- 6:452020. I believe when I first had
- 6:47contacted her and there was a series of things that had
- 6:51happened in my personal life, that will dive into a little bit
- 6:54here about how the show almost came to a screeching.
- 6:57Stop the cameras off the microphones off.
- 6:59It was just this communication of I'm going to speak life into
- 7:03you. I believe God has As a calling
- 7:04on your life and that was, it was it was critical at that
- 7:09point in time because I know that sometimes we can be in a
- 7:12desert season, we can still go to the church, we can be under
- 7:15the umbrella, we can have other people, but the word says, how
- 7:19good is the right word in a specific season, right?
- 7:25And that was, that was a kind of one of the reasons I'm still
- 7:29here today. That's why whenever she wants to
- 7:31come on, I'll lay the red carpet.
- 7:32I'm like whatever God put on your heart.
- 7:34Let's go. Let's dive into everything.
- 7:36It's just anointed, it's always anointed.
- 7:38So, yeah, I'm trying to think what, what was some of the other
- 7:42questions you asked me in there in the warm-up?
- 7:45Kind of maybe with? Yeah, your background coming to
- 7:50Christ, I guess. If you want to however, much you
- 7:53want to spread that out. Detail-wise is up to you.
- 7:57I think it's always cool to hear people's testimonies because
- 8:00we're familiar with ourselves, and we don't think it's all that
- 8:03unique or special. Social, but when someone else
- 8:05tells it, or you tell to someone else, it just, oh, wow, that's
- 8:09really cool. How that God worked there.
- 8:11So, I didn't grow up in the church.
- 8:13And I talked about this with Chris Trice, a few episodes ago.
- 8:17I don't know when this will Arrow Macho or yours, but I
- 8:20talked a little bit about how my father was disowned from the
- 8:25church and just from his family because his mother had died when
- 8:29he was seven. So it was like, a generational
- 8:32thing when it came to church like I was growing up.
- 8:35We weren't going to church, my dad kind of hat like this step
- 8:38back and just watch them, they're really fake.
- 8:40They're not really there for you, kind of mentality and that
- 8:43was generational for the way that we grew up.
- 8:45So, really, my mother was the one who would take us on like
- 8:48Easter and Christmas and like, candlelight services for
- 8:50Christmas Eve. So we were getting little
- 8:52Snippets of the word, but I grew up very secular on the youngest
- 8:56of three. And we grew up outside of
- 8:59Philadelphia. So diverse culture, a lot of
- 9:01things to get into a lot of different influences.
- 9:04Has. And so for me I kind of was
- 9:06blowing in the wind really but when I was seven years old and I
- 9:10don't think I've ever shared this on air before.
- 9:12So this is one of the building and the building stories to why
- 9:16I am the way I am. I guess I was 7 years old and at
- 9:20the time my dad sister was like the only person who was walking
- 9:26around with a Bible and really just believed in it and stood on
- 9:29it. And, you know, she's always
- 9:30talking with people about remember, she's on the telephone
- 9:33is the long curly. Or did a stretch like 10 feet
- 9:35across the room and I'm sitting there playing with my Batman so
- 9:38it like seven years old, she was talking over the phone with
- 9:41somebody about this, God of just pure love, like undeniable
- 9:47beyond what we can comprehend. Just, you know, I forget exactly
- 9:50the verb issues using but in my, my young seven-year-old mind,
- 9:54I'm sitting there playing with his Batman soy and I had a, an
- 9:58experience that stayed with me. My whole life, I was terrified
- 10:01to even talk about it for many years because What happened is I
- 10:06was saying to myself. If a god like that is real, I
- 10:10will serve him some day but I had I don't know if it was out
- 10:15of body or what happened, but I was up in the corner of the
- 10:19room, looking down at my younger self playing with this Batman
- 10:24toy and I just was flooded in light in this experience.
- 10:29And that was that. So covered up for years just
- 10:32because out of the fear to talk about it and not knowing what
- 10:34happened, it was odd. It was like all in one second
- 10:38but it just was strange as a seven-year-old.
- 10:40You don't have the language to try to explain what's going on.
- 10:42You're just like, yeah, well okay over imagination.
- 10:46I don't know, I mean, there's things that as you grow up and
- 10:49get older you think like what was going on there?
- 10:53But it was just this distinct deep feeling that if this is
- 10:57true I will serve a god like that.
- 11:00Yeah I will serve him hmm. So many years later about 19 or
- 11:0520 years old I have an out-of-body experience.
- 11:08I got jumped by handful of guys knocker a very secular so we
- 11:12were partying drinking and smoking and I fell asleep on the
- 11:15third story of this this house in a spare room and I was woken
- 11:19up and buy a friend and some guys that crashed A party.
- 11:24And they were just, it was, it was wild.
- 11:26So, I come down and outside, and I peek my head out of the door
- 11:29and look both ways. And I see like, three guys
- 11:31standing there and I just say, yo, did you jump my friends and
- 11:34they just came out of the woodwork and they tried to kill
- 11:36me. So I mean, not just like a black
- 11:40guy, like they tried to kill me. I was swollen from the back of
- 11:43my ear, to the front of my nose. Like I had my brain has slowed
- 11:47up and tapped the inside of my skull and I started sitting up
- 11:51out of my body and that really freaked me out because at this
- 11:54point in time you know I got friends going into the military
- 11:57into college. I'm trying to figure out exactly
- 11:59what I want to do with my life. You know I was working at the
- 12:02Philadelphia outlets at the time if I remember correctly and then
- 12:05doing like blacktopping on the side and now I got this big
- 12:10question mark in my mind. What's really going to happen
- 12:12when I die? I'm dealing with PTSD after
- 12:14that. Like what is really going to
- 12:16happen. This is so weird.
- 12:18And when I You know, go to the churches or see the church
- 12:22lingo, if you will, over the way that they move, I couldn't bring
- 12:25these kind of things up, right with people that were in the
- 12:29quote-unquote church and that that Disturbed me even more.
- 12:33I just remember thinking like there's something here, there's
- 12:38something so much deeper. There's so many blinders on
- 12:41myself and everybody around me. But there's this tugging
- 12:46something more. So I just wanted to stay on that
- 12:48path and through Dealing with like a PTSD and dealing with,
- 12:52like, just weird. Something that happened, you
- 12:54know, early on and then later in life and trying to find my
- 12:57place. Find my voice and wrestle
- 12:59through all of these different things that I was experiencing
- 13:04well at 24, I find myself in a courtroom in Norristown PA and I
- 13:11get judge Danielle, and Danielle means God is my judge, right?
- 13:14It was nothing violent. It was just like my license was
- 13:17suspended. I had heard, of course some
- 13:19money. I was Not living a good life.
- 13:21I tried to change in a secular sense without leaning on God.
- 13:26So I'm like, I want to do better.
- 13:28I do not want to end up like what I was seeing other people
- 13:31end up like I'm like I don't want that path but my sister she
- 13:35was taking me to church in Norristown PA the time and I
- 13:38remember hearing like Romans 8 and 10, all who call upon the
- 13:43name of the Lord will be saved. Just simple first like that and
- 13:46there's no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus.
- 13:49And I remember A thinking but does that include me like today?
- 13:53Like can I be a part of that? So I go to the court for I
- 13:57believe this is the second time I got locked up, I got a purge
- 14:00release agreement. I didn't have to serve the six
- 14:02months by God's grace and I Surrender my heart completely
- 14:07and I'm just like, God no matter what happens if I get locked up
- 14:10today. If I'm free like I just can't do
- 14:14this on my own anymore. I can't.
- 14:18I'm at the I know myself. So I had this secret moment
- 14:21where I'm getting a little choked up because I'm reflecting
- 14:25on on things that I don't usually think about.
- 14:28That's right, yeah, back-to-back the back but I just have this
- 14:33moment where I say, whatever it takes, Whatever it takes.
- 14:39I just need you to come in and give me that open.
- 14:42Heart surgery. I need you to do it.
- 14:46My effort is worthless. I have nothing to bring to the
- 14:49table and I just said, Take my heart.
- 14:54Take my thoughts. And create a me the best man.
- 14:58That's the man that I'm called to be, because I can't oblige
- 15:01what that is, but I'm going to trust you with this process and
- 15:05that's when things started to shift and change and I know a
- 15:07lot of people that call giving your heart to Jesus, like, some
- 15:10people say oh that's that's corny.
- 15:13Right? They'll say, oh, you need to
- 15:14repent and be baptized immediately to get the Holy
- 15:16Spirit. I think, I think we're all a
- 15:19little wrong and we're all a little write.
- 15:20The word means what it says and says what it means.
- 15:23You know, we can't argue the word, but this, this unique
- 15:25process, SS. It was just a surrender and then
- 15:29God gave me favor and areas that I didn't think I was going to
- 15:32favor. So things slowly started to go
- 15:34uphill from there and then I was baptized in the name of Jesus,
- 15:39you know, I continually repenting, like we can't say, we
- 15:42have no sin, we deceive ourselves.
- 15:44I don't teach saying, I don't think it's okay to do the things
- 15:46of the world is doing. I want to be holy and set apart
- 15:49but I understand my journey it was long and drawn out.
- 15:52It was like over time it just kind of kept being critiqued.
- 15:56That brings me closer to him and then the podcast kind of
- 15:59started. I had the wild idea in mind.
- 16:02I was actually at the time listening to Basile and gods
- 16:06from Canary cry radio. Okay, yeah, right.
- 16:10And I'm at where I'm at a factory, I'm working all day,
- 16:13right? And I and tough Missler was
- 16:15like, the first real Fringe guy that I like really was into but
- 16:19like, you know, the entertainment and the cooler
- 16:21newer version of it was dazzling, God's, right?
- 16:24And I have this wild idea. Idea.
- 16:26Like what, what if I just started to take a step of faith
- 16:30and talk about the things that are going through?
- 16:32My mind, the things that I'm thinking about the things arm
- 16:34wrestling, would, I'm finding out as I'm studying the word.
- 16:38There's like these connections that I quite didn't know what to
- 16:41do with, about personal experiences and thoughts and
- 16:43just whatever you want to call it.
- 16:45And just, you know, being being upset in my immaturity with the
- 16:49church people because I couldn't vent or talk to them about these
- 16:53things. So, that was bothersome I wanted
- 16:56to create a space where I'm like I want to capture this journey,
- 16:59you know, Walking with God, no matter what comes no matter what
- 17:02happens. I'm going to walk with the Lord
- 17:03and we're just going to see how this pans out real quick.
- 17:07What was it about your the the church environment or or this
- 17:12sense that you got from the leadership maybe that you
- 17:15couldn't talk about stuff? You were dealing with?
- 17:19Yeah. I think like a lot of the people
- 17:21I was surrounded with didn't have such an intense like
- 17:24traumatic background like I do Did.
- 17:26So they were more just mellow. Like we're going to, you know,
- 17:29just reading the word and I'm coming in like high emotion like
- 17:32dealing with these things. Like you know I had a dream or
- 17:35what do I do with that experience?
- 17:36When I was seven or my out-of-body experience, when I
- 17:39got jumped in it was like oh well hold on a second, this kid
- 17:42might be suffering from demoniac perseverance.
- 17:45Yes, big like just slow down stop, but it was years and years
- 17:49of questioning and I couldn't find a healthy way, more healthy
- 17:53dialogue with other men because God is now bringing me into
- 17:57manhood I don't have good Godly examples.
- 17:59I mean in the church. Yeah but it's like there's like
- 18:02a sacred secular divide there's like the world and then you flip
- 18:06the switch and come into the church and his the church and
- 18:08everything is like holy and cool there.
- 18:10But the to there was Chasm that connected those and made sense
- 18:15to me and I felt like I wanted to be genuine.
- 18:16I wanted to be in the world and rustled through the same
- 18:20questions and talk about God and be the same person.
- 18:22I was at the church, the bails been thinning.
- 18:25So I think God. Is an opening people's minds is
- 18:27spectrums to the idea that there shouldn't be a divide, the
- 18:31church isn't a hospital. You know, the church is for the
- 18:34Saints is a holy places where we can come and fellowship and we
- 18:37can come together and praise God, right?
- 18:40But then also like raising up the right people to receive the
- 18:45the wide spectrum of different cases if you will that are going
- 18:48to be coming to Christ. And I think I was kind of a part
- 18:51of that locally and I have great communication, great
- 18:55relationship. With, with some of the churches
- 18:57still that I was going to back then it's like they've kind of
- 19:00seen me grow and realize like, okay we're feeding him, the word
- 19:04were watering, and planting seeds in his life and they say,
- 19:07you know, diligent and good but a lot of it was just my own
- 19:10personal case and being upset that nobody could reciprocate me
- 19:15on it, you know your yeah, this is crazy.
- 19:18So my wife had that similar experience, she she came from
- 19:23worldly background, a lot of witchcraft.
- 19:26Crafts People, in the occult, practicing all kinds of
- 19:31paganism. And then social her experience
- 19:35to the supernatural was the dark side.
- 19:38You know, seeing Shadow People demons, astral projection, you
- 19:44know, these out-of-body experiences and stop using
- 19:48demonic, you know, power. So when she came to the church
- 19:52and surrender her life to the Lord similar to you did, You
- 19:56know, all the people that she's around, she's thinking these
- 20:00people are my, you know, these are, these are guys are going to
- 20:03be a good influence and they're going to encourage me and she
- 20:08found a lot of division and quick Enos and totally blinders
- 20:14to the supernatural in the church because of kind of what
- 20:17you were describing. Yeah.
- 20:19You know they just very In their own lane but not really
- 20:24embracing what it says in the book of Acts all these
- 20:28Supernatural things that our reality and so she's had to
- 20:34process that as well. So you know what I think I think
- 20:39her background has been a positive thing that the Lord is
- 20:43used to propel her into maybe a more of a leadership role
- 20:49because she's had some positive experience.
- 20:51Isis after that, you know, her born-again experience but I
- 20:56don't know she-she's eyes wide open to all of it whereas some
- 21:00people are still not even willing to go there.
- 21:03It builds character, you know, you that that the leadership
- 21:06men's, how do you really find yourself being able to minister?
- 21:09To those people that are coming in the floodgates?
- 21:12Now, with these similar stories, when you have a background like
- 21:15with what your wife experience and me, and I'm sure you guys as
- 21:18well to it all to some capacity. End up.
- 21:22The thing that we thought was, our weakness becomes this
- 21:25strength where you're a magnet for a Generations that are
- 21:28rising up with similar experiences, so very cool.
- 21:33Yeah. So getting into, so you had the
- 21:35first podcast you're getting into Missler, which which I've
- 21:40watched a few of his things back in the day.
- 21:42But I was kind of I was robbed. Skiba was one for me and and and
- 21:47and of course, my brother Luke was was telling me about
- 21:49Nephilim, so that was kind of mine.
- 21:52But yeah, go go into that, I guess.
- 21:55Yeah. So with Chuck Missler, I was at
- 21:58the church and I was wondering and I'm talking with the Lord
- 22:02secretly and I said, God what are we going to do with like
- 22:06aliens and Bigfoot and these Nephilim that are mentioned in
- 22:10the Bible? Because culturally there was a
- 22:12lot of like alien influence, believe it or not I mean in the
- 22:15Philadelphia area there's some unique locations where neighbors
- 22:20and just friends family members of his like lights in the sky.
- 22:22This is weird that this whole weird compartment of like
- 22:25people's Rinses and stuff going on but it could never be talked
- 22:28about in the church. So when I, when I asked the
- 22:33pastor a couple questions, he's like, I'm going to recommend
- 22:36this DVD set by Chuck Missler to you.
- 22:39I think he's going to help. Wow, you know, so I'm like, you
- 22:44know, falling out of my chair like watching Chuck Missler,
- 22:46DVDs and like 2014 for like months on end just like oh my
- 22:51God someone finally that like really Did everything for me
- 22:56that I couldn't find another places.
- 22:58Right? So yeah I mean Chuck Missler
- 23:00still to this day at the Bible in 24 hours.
- 23:03I listened to inaudible at least like once or twice a year just
- 23:06to see these threads and some of his insights.
- 23:09He really is this perfect connection between the Layman
- 23:13and the scholar. He's like that that Uncle or dad
- 23:17figure that everybody kind of wants in the church.
- 23:20You know, who's like gonna take those people that come on with
- 23:23like the strange aspects? We say right?
- 23:26Let the word mean what it says, and teach them some beautiful
- 23:29gold nuggets out of the word of Truth.
- 23:31So yeah, yeah. But but moving in to that first
- 23:35podcast, not of this world, this is like end of 2018, mid to end
- 23:40of 2018. I go to a men's retreat in
- 23:43Allentown PA with, with a group of guys, right?
- 23:46And they do like these push-up contest and like, all this cool,
- 23:49like, you know, stuff before this, you know, men's the tree
- 23:52and we had a friend Brooks, who was getting ready to?
- 23:55Go into the military, another one of my best friends, Nick
- 23:58long, he's a holistic nutritionist and he trains
- 24:02people. You trains from military people,
- 24:03all the way up to older people with injuries and, you know,
- 24:06he's super fit, you know? He's like that guy, we're having
- 24:10this conversation on the way up about.
- 24:14Where in the Old Testament, I'm not going to go into much
- 24:17detail, but, like verbatim. When we get to this conference,
- 24:21after these push-up challenges, and all this cool stuff, the
- 24:24opening statements are about the guy who is, and I forget the
- 24:28name is years ago now, but he's walking in the desert and an
- 24:33angel appears before him and he says, are you with me or against
- 24:36me? And the angels, like, take off
- 24:38your shoes, your on, Holy Ground.
- 24:41And that was the opening line at the conference.
- 24:45So the me Brooks and Nick, and look at each other.
- 24:47Like, yeah, right. Like this is cool.
- 24:49And so we come back from that and that was a unique experience
- 24:52in itself. But my boy, Nick decides to do
- 24:54this Mount Everest challenge. So what he does and he put
- 24:59someone like, you know, some gear and for eight and a half
- 25:03hours, does this Mount Everest, Jacob's Ladder Mount ever
- 25:06something like that challenge, where it's like, non-stop
- 25:08working out on this like, you know, sterile Lifting and
- 25:12Records it and then like it catches some traction locally,
- 25:15we're like the owner of the gym and people are getting
- 25:17interested. He's coming down to the last.
- 25:19Like two hours, people are recording him, he gets off his
- 25:22hands or ripped up, you know, he's all like, there's like
- 25:25eight and a half hours of this workout.
- 25:26He's drenched and he has this shirt on, you know it's like
- 25:30like a muscle shirt. Yep.
- 25:31And the owner of the gym says, why did you decide to do this?
- 25:35Like he didn't tell anybody, people just realize, like, yeah,
- 25:37this guy is doing something crazy and it says, give God the
- 25:40glory. So we hold the shirt out and
- 25:43he's like, I give God all the glory.
- 25:44This is an opportunity for me to use my stupidity to just like
- 25:48share with the world, how good God is.
- 25:50So I'm Blown Away by what Nick did.
- 25:53He said he was encouraged by like the whole conference and
- 25:56just you know, seeing God move in his life.
- 25:59We were like. Alright that's it, we're
- 26:00starting a podcast and I see like we're going to talk about
- 26:04this radical, you know, men of Faith or just stuff going on
- 26:08that we wanted to capture the experience.
- 26:10So not of this world. Oh, the first episode, I think
- 26:12it was called Jacob's Ladder and I'll talk with Nick about that
- 26:16whole experience in the conference.
- 26:17Oh, okay. Yeah, that's how the first show
- 26:20kind of really like it already was in mind we were thinking
- 26:23about it but like that's what pushed it into reality and me
- 26:27that this interesting little pocket is yeah, yeah.
- 26:31And so you did that for a year and what was it that that switch
- 26:36to? I want to call it something
- 26:39different. I want to do something
- 26:41different. Or change it into Millennial
- 26:44Mustard Seed. Yes.
- 26:46Oh, I mean the podcast was getting like no downloads and
- 26:51like I'm not a numbers guy but I'm like you know, we're getting
- 26:53like maybe 30 to 50 downloads a month.
- 26:56Yep. And going through not of this
- 27:00world and I really doing this old period in time on keeping
- 27:04journals and a logbook. And, you know, my experience to
- 27:07stuff like that. And I'm have prayer journals and
- 27:10digging deeper into the The word God is like Chuck Missler, you
- 27:14know, they were really planning seeds that were causing my
- 27:18private study to go deeper. So I'm like, I want to do
- 27:22another show and I want the start of it to be based on this
- 27:26biblical approach and capturing the actual Journey versus the.
- 27:30First one was just kind of on the on the backside of what Nick
- 27:34had done with this Jacob's Ladder challenge.
- 27:37So I felt like I needed to kind of reinvent my Approach and I
- 27:43had wrestled through about three months.
- 27:44So this is in 2019 where I'm looking for a name of the show.
- 27:48And I had all these cool names, you know, mapped out and stuff.
- 27:50And I had this little tiny glass jar with a mustard seed in it,
- 27:55that hang from a necklace, and it would always be at wherever
- 27:58my desk was right. And, you know, something about
- 28:01the mustard seed of faith and I really felt small and
- 28:05insignificant my generation. Don't like it.
- 28:08I'll just some guy, you know, undereducated overworked and
- 28:13running this, this race of Faith.
- 28:15So I'm like man that musty really resonates with me and
- 28:20then I was just watching the rest of my generation, the
- 28:24millennial generation, and just how chaotic everything was.
- 28:28I mean, you know, we got super computers in our pockets when we
- 28:30start getting hair on her face on our chest, right?
- 28:32When we start becoming men. So, like, I seen this Stark
- 28:35difference between talking with older people versus what was
- 28:39relevant in my generation. So I thought it was really Faith
- 28:43was not widely. Accepted people thought you were
- 28:45corny for reading the Bible. Like I was really had some hard
- 28:49times with shifting from over the course of these years from
- 28:52the world, the way of living to this biblical way of living.
- 28:57So I felt like this small and insignificant dude in the
- 29:01millennial generation. So I remember when the name hit
- 29:04me, I'm like, there's no way I would name it that.
- 29:06Oh my God, that's Mouth, full people care for that and for now
- 29:10I had trouble this morning. Happens all the time.
- 29:14Oh man. And then um, I tried to come up
- 29:19with other names of God just kept saying no.
- 29:21Yeah, it's better to be obedient than to sacrifice them like our
- 29:26God. I'm gonna go with it.
- 29:27Yep. I'm going to go with it.
- 29:28And yeah, that's how the the winner must have see was was
- 29:31born over the course of all this journey.
- 29:33It was like the reflection that acknowledgement of being this
- 29:37little. Alcide and my generation like we
- 29:40were born for such a time as this.
- 29:42So like this is my generation, you know?
- 29:44This is where I'm planted, this is the reality of it versus what
- 29:47seemed more appealing, you know, because there's these other cool
- 29:50podcast names, you know, like you know I'm not going to say
- 29:54I'm just because I'm not going to name drop but everybody knows
- 29:59you know these Dogman Sasquatch all this cool stuff and Cryptids
- 30:03and so it was God always kind of keeps me on my toes.
- 30:06You never Maybe you like too much in the front, where it's
- 30:10like, I'm confident. And I know it's going to work is
- 30:12more or less like in the back just praying like, dude, I hope
- 30:16this works. You know, like am I doing this
- 30:18right? And just this constant
- 30:19communication has really kept me, humble.
- 30:22Yeah, what when you yeah made that switch to to this show what
- 30:29kind of what was your kind of your goal, or mission for that
- 30:32what you wanted to talk about like for us it's you know, the
- 30:36days of Noah. alright, it's similar to blurry creatures, but
- 30:40it's more more big picture, not creature focused but yeah, Like
- 30:47I was saying a bit ago, like, you have all of these different
- 30:51cultural perspectives. You have people that don't
- 30:53believe in God, but they're watching Ancient Aliens, right,
- 30:56right? You have all of these topics
- 31:00that I believe all of it is under the authority of Christ.
- 31:04Like he is the head of the principalities Powers.
- 31:06Rulers, dominions authorities, the archons.
- 31:09But I'm seeing the misattribute ation to the reality of the
- 31:14power water. Here it is.
- 31:15God up top And in the Old Testament, he a lots.
- 31:18These Gentile Nations to these lower case, G gods and I started
- 31:22to see the gospel as like Christ is risen from the grave.
- 31:27The Messiah, he comes in the flesh quarter of the scriptures
- 31:29on the third day. He is risen but I also started
- 31:32to see the power of how he Dethrone.
- 31:35These lowercase G. Doctors.
- 31:41This power move that the church was in focusing on.
- 31:43So it my idea was I want to interview people from different
- 31:47different belief systems different spectrums.
- 31:48Right? Like all these little cliques, I
- 31:51want to kind of represent them. Like, bring the best out of what
- 31:54I see that people are doing right onto the show highlight
- 31:57with the doing, right? I don't want to write a book
- 31:59about what they're doing wrong. I don't want to contribute to
- 32:01the division. I was thinking wouldn't it be
- 32:04cooler to highlight what's right?
- 32:05And allow just God to work. Work it out with people.
- 32:09Like I don't need to be on here saying you're wrong.
- 32:11R-right making videos about who doesn't have it all together.
- 32:14I think that that's actually what I'm battling against
- 32:17because I'm actually trying to just God will correct.
- 32:20God will discipline? God will raise them up and he
- 32:22will set them down and he has purposes beyond our
- 32:24comprehension. So my idea was, I want to
- 32:27capture this journey and and represent all of these because
- 32:30I've had people on the show that her like hold drastic different
- 32:33views. Okay, the guy next door all the
- 32:35way up to like, you know, dr. Laura right.
- 32:37Everybody in between. I don't discriminate.
- 32:39My idea was, let's capture All of this and hoping that the
- 32:42listeners, they see something represented on are that they may
- 32:47be secretly wrestling with or connecting these puzzle pieces
- 32:49together. There, you know, this tug of war
- 32:51on the inside, like I feel something's wrong here but it
- 32:54connects together and just kind of helping people as it was
- 32:57helping me. And then the power of sharing
- 32:59our testimony you know it really does give other people the
- 33:04boldness. You know like Allah would say
- 33:07the Intrepid host ale say she's this infected host writing.
- 33:10It's like We see so many fake ones out there and a lot of
- 33:13people in the secret conversations, they're all
- 33:15feeling very similar. Like the campfire stories people
- 33:19are talking about everything that won't talk about it the
- 33:21pulpit. So I'm like this is a huge gray
- 33:23area and I just wanted to be genuine and real.
- 33:25I'm like I'm like let's make the gray area accessible to
- 33:31everybody and let God do the judging on what should continue
- 33:34and whatnot and just let like he's the great orchestrator
- 33:37here. So yeah, that's the purpose of
- 33:40the show. Was just a capture my faith
- 33:42journey and to cover these wide spectrum of topics.
- 33:46Always giving God, the praise always giving God the glory,
- 33:49we're not glorifying Cryptids over here, we're not glorifying
- 33:51the darkness. We're exposing the darkness and
- 33:54we are really wrestling into adjusting.
- 33:57Our reality grasping the, the Eternal truth of what's already
- 34:03been set in stone and that's the glorification of God.
- 34:05The Eternal God had because everything is going to fade
- 34:09away. The Earth is going to fade away.
- 34:11The flower of the field you're going to fade away but the word
- 34:13of God will last forever. So just helping people to not
- 34:18look through a lens of fear. Not being afraid to ask
- 34:20questions about the Bible. Yeah, kind of like some Secret
- 34:24Angel. You knows our secret agent
- 34:27stuff. I'm sorry, where it's like, you
- 34:29kind of go in and you're like, we're gonna we're gonna pray for
- 34:32these people. We're going to, you know, find
- 34:33the people who have those questions and really just
- 34:36showing it's okay to be genuine, right?
- 34:41Yeah, I got a question for you. So, since you've shifted gears
- 34:44with this new podcast, and you're letting people who, you
- 34:47know, you look focusing on the positives.
- 34:50Give me maybe your top three highlights.
- 34:54If you can, obviously we brought up dr.
- 34:57Laura several times. But what was it about?
- 35:01Maybe three different guests that really stood out to you
- 35:04three different episodes. Maybe that you want to share
- 35:08that. We're like man this was wild.
- 35:10No, that's a good question. That's a really good question.
- 35:15I think like the first one. My sister Amber comes on early
- 35:19in the season. And at that point in time, she
- 35:23had really came back to the Lord.
- 35:26And we were seeing her run circles around, you know, people
- 35:29who were judging her years prior.
- 35:31So God is using her and, and covering the Hat Man experience,
- 35:35she had in the house we grow up, and I remember him that episode
- 35:38came out. You know, we can't come on her
- 35:40down. Like people listen to it and it
- 35:42was like good responses and and I remember thinking this story
- 35:45has been secret like all this time.
- 35:48You know, her staring this hat man experience she had in this
- 35:50This Old House, we grew up in that was like a huge moment for
- 35:53me. Okay, people will listen right
- 35:56and she felt good about getting it off your chest.
- 35:58I felt good about capturing and sharing with people.
- 36:00So that was like a huge. Yeah.
- 36:02And like, that felt good. I feel like it's out in the
- 36:05open. We aired it out, right?
- 36:07Yeah. And I say, the next one showing
- 36:09Carter comes on. And there's this moment where he
- 36:13says he's talking about a pastor, he was being taught by
- 36:17down south and they get a call to go to a family's house.
- 36:21Because there's a bunch of snakes down at this, little
- 36:23water way underneath these bigger rocks and the pastor, you
- 36:27know, it was a snake Hunter too. So they go there, flipping up,
- 36:30rocks and Shoals. Like, what are we doing?
- 36:31You know, what's the purpose of this?
- 36:33And the pastor's like, like, listen, every rock, you flip
- 36:37over, there's not going to be a snake under there, just waiting
- 36:39to strike you but And there is a snake there, you got to know how
- 36:43to handle it. And then he like in that to the
- 36:46fact that not everything is demonic in this world.
- 36:48There's a balance, right? Like there's not a demon behind
- 36:51every single Rock in life and that was that was huge for me
- 36:56like because I'm still dealing with like the skepticism of like
- 36:59rare is the cutoff line between the spiritual realm and the
- 37:03physical and is their demons behind all the stuff.
- 37:05And just that helped me to not take myself too.
- 37:07Seriously to relax a little bit and to not look for demon
- 37:12everywhere and that operating a fear is not the answer.
- 37:15I think the next one. I mean, honestly, I would have
- 37:18to say, I'll let go from the IDC, the intelligent design
- 37:23Collective was another huge shifting point for me.
- 37:27We, he comes on and aleko is we still talk to this day, he's
- 37:31awesome. He had travelled for 10 years
- 37:34and was a teacher of like an international student registry
- 37:37overseas. And he had this testimony Mooney
- 37:41where he's super smart guy like Academia.
- 37:44The walls are right. And he has this near-death
- 37:47encounter that he talks about outside of Wuhan in the hoobae
- 37:52Providence, in like 2012, when him and his wife were riding
- 37:55puddle bikes in over in China and it shifts his whole entire
- 38:01direction of life where he then comes to the Lord as wife was a
- 38:04Christian she was praying but he was like you know oh no I have
- 38:09too many awesome answers. In the scientific world.
- 38:11And, you know, physics and all this, all this different stuff,
- 38:15but he then has this near-death encounter and comes to the Lord.
- 38:18And three months later, we talked about this.
- 38:21All on that episode. He gets baptized in Dalian,
- 38:24which is the military capital of China in a bathtub in an
- 38:27apartment. So like his story like the power
- 38:30that I felt like it was displaying and how it helped me,
- 38:34not become so scared to talk about my near-death encounter.
- 38:37Also that was another huge shifting point where I'm like
- 38:40this is Third, we need to be speaking.
- 38:42So there are like three, there's plenty more.
- 38:45There's, there's awesome conversations that have been had
- 38:48over the last few years on the podcast.
- 38:50I'm not like just I don't sling any episode out.
- 38:52Like only got like 60 episodes over four years, but like the
- 38:55idea is each one means something.
- 38:57There's a nugget in each episode and I'm more worried about
- 39:01trying to get a little more right than I've been getting
- 39:03wrong instead of just throwing content out there.
- 39:06So there are three points of significance.
- 39:09Well, one thing you You touched on earlier was kind of God in
- 39:15the mix in the mix of all these other lower lower case, G, God's
- 39:22right? And it's interesting like as
- 39:27we've gone through, you know, our show, it's really like,
- 39:31sometimes I'll have a picture in my head of kind of a concept
- 39:35maybe in, it's hard to put into words but I guess if you were to
- 39:39think of maybe how the Regime, Evangelical Christian, kind of
- 39:43perceives of God, and then other gods like Israel going after
- 39:48other gods. It's kind of this huge divide
- 39:51like God is way up here and then there's all these other things
- 39:55that either don't exist people think or they are but they're
- 40:00they're pretty weak, pretty powerless.
- 40:02And I think when we talk about how the story of History, other
- 40:07religions mythologies, Are all part and parcel of the biblical
- 40:13Narrative of, you know, the Nephilim and these other false
- 40:18gods coming to Earth and you know, kind of muddying the
- 40:23Waters of True Religion. With God, it's not like him and
- 40:30then there's all these others, it's like there's him and it's
- 40:34like if you picture like a photo in a room, right?
- 40:37Like you can tell who the real one is, He's standing Head and
- 40:40Shoulders above, but it's interesting how God puts himself
- 40:44amongst all these other ones. We're in our head, in our
- 40:49Christian head were like oh you're so far above.
- 40:52But he does that on purpose. I think the contrast himself to
- 40:56all these other ones, right? Like he's like, I'm going to
- 41:00have Israel for myself. You guys can have the other
- 41:02ones. It's like, dude, you can snap
- 41:05your fingers like the the Marvel movies, snap your Yours and
- 41:10boom. All these guys are gone.
- 41:12You know, Satan's gone. And I know he's gonna let these
- 41:15things play out and he's gonna let you know, the evil to have
- 41:19dominion in contrast and, and show himself against that
- 41:25backdrop. I just think that's, that's
- 41:28really interesting and also how it Bridges the Gap to to other
- 41:32people. Other religions that we can say,
- 41:34Hey, you know about that story like that new age story.
- 41:37Well, guess where that comes from, you know?
- 41:40Yeah, just like yeah, no. I was thinking the contrast that
- 41:45the Lord uses is, I was gonna say that the cotton like with
- 41:54it, where the Apostle Paul goes to the Parthenon and he's making
- 41:58Declarations of this unknown God, because because the Greeks
- 42:02had a statue to the unknown, God, right?
- 42:04Because Greeks like love wisdom, they love learning, right?
- 42:07And I think that's interesting. And the next First thing that
- 42:10came to mind when you were bringing that up is it's the
- 42:12glory of God to conceal a matter.
- 42:16But it's the duty of the princes to seek it out.
- 42:19So I think a lot of the times like God wants us more than we
- 42:23can understand to be participants in redeeming.
- 42:28Right. All of that, which was lost.
- 42:30Yeah. You know, I think he wants us to
- 42:31be participants in it and that's the beauty of free will because
- 42:35we're not a robot whose programmed to just wake up and
- 42:37say yes, I love you. Lord.
- 42:39What is the mission today? No, like we're going to have ups
- 42:42and downs. We're going to have trials and
- 42:44Ian's hardship and deprivation. We're gonna have ceases of
- 42:47laughter seasons of crime. We're going to seize as a
- 42:49breaking down season of building up and there's nothing new Under
- 42:52the Sun. So like talking about these
- 42:54perspectives and helping that, like we have no idea of somebody
- 42:57sitting out there right now, that's going to be listening to
- 43:00this interview going. I needed to hear that so bad.
- 43:05Like a ripple effect, we just have no idea.
- 43:07So even though it's just an interview in his just our
- 43:10voices, it is building the kingdom in a way we are Way,
- 43:15watering and planting seeds, as much more, we should be doing
- 43:19the secret Works. Where I left hand doesn't know
- 43:20what the right hand is doing, but so this is an opportunity.
- 43:23I said this, I forget with who, but if the Apostle Paul was here
- 43:26today you think he wouldn't be on a podcast?
- 43:29You don't know nothing about the Apostle Paul right behind it
- 43:31out, the windows three-minute, right?
- 43:33He'd be on the podcast, he would be doing every you've utilize
- 43:36everything, he had to be able to keep building The Narrative of
- 43:41the power of God. I become I become All things so
- 43:45that I might save some right? He would meet people where
- 43:49they're at all men that I might stay.
- 43:50There you go. Yep.
- 43:52Yeah I think that's amazing. I think of the late Michael
- 43:54heizer and going to UFO conferences, right?
- 43:57And your we're bridging that Gap and and and also in now I think
- 44:03we can also be less dismissive. Like I remember in high school,
- 44:07you know, my buddy, I don't think he was really into it but
- 44:10he's like, oh, Gaia the spirit of the earth and I kind of roll
- 44:13my eyes about it, you know. Now I could actually say
- 44:17something, maybe it. Maybe I need to talk to Gary
- 44:19Wayne a little more, but I can actually say, hey, there's a
- 44:23context for that and that's not necessarily false, but it's
- 44:27lesser. Let me.
- 44:28Let me tell you about the real, that they came to me.
- 44:31I got something for him on that. Yeah, yeah.
- 44:35But anyway, no, it's just a story from, from years ago.
- 44:37I was just thinking about like, the average Christian doesn't
- 44:41have a context for that. We just, we just dismiss it.
- 44:44But I think this when we're talking about the supernatural
- 44:47we can Bridge gaps that way and say look it's all part of the
- 44:52same story but here is the truth of it.
- 44:56All right. So yeah podcast is rolling on
- 44:59and 2021 that's the year. Things almost came to a halt.
- 45:05Uh yeah yeah, it's interesting because you know, we know what
- 45:10happened with 20/20 and I don't give medical advice but But I
- 45:15took me and my household, we chose not to go with.
- 45:18Let's just say the little prick, right ostende withstood that and
- 45:23it was difficult and there was, you know, it was mine early
- 45:26difficult reflecting on. It was more like a a bit of a
- 45:32burden, a Target on your back, if you will, just because of a
- 45:35certain things that were happening that shows, who's who
- 45:39Then things started to get a little bit better, we're
- 45:42literally going to buy our first house at this point in time.
- 45:45You know, my son is taking, he's 14 years old at the time during
- 45:49a half or four years old and my wife is working.
- 45:53I'm working, I've been at the same place now for almost nine
- 45:57years but I go on second shift because of some of the layoffs
- 46:02that was not ideal. I'm not a second shift guy right
- 46:04now. Wake up at like, 4:30 a.m. so
- 46:07getting done at 2 a.m. is Occult.
- 46:09But I'm going through this, this process where things are getting
- 46:12better. You know, we saved up money.
- 46:14We're going to buy our first house at the time, I have my
- 46:17dream. Girl, I got my dream car.
- 46:20We bought a 2015, Cadillac ATS, and 14 and 17.
- 46:25Scuse me, there's a lot of struggles.
- 46:27A lot of hard things going on, but I'm feeling like finally, we
- 46:30got a decent car. We're about to buy this house
- 46:33for like three acres in a garage.
- 46:34It's like everything she wanted. And I wanted, we're going to
- 46:37close on the house. And they were petitioning for
- 46:41the distance between the septic drainfield in the well, and not
- 46:45to go too deep into a, but they were trying to position the
- 46:49township to grandfather in the 79 ft distance because it had to
- 46:53be 100 foot. This is for my loan side and so,
- 46:56we're right up the closing, like, literally, we're supposed
- 46:59to close in, like two days and because we were renting in a
- 47:02town house. We're living in town at the
- 47:04time. The guy who were buying the
- 47:07house from because I have half of our money.
- 47:09He's checked out, right? He's like start moving as we
- 47:11start moving in because we're closing in two days, like it's
- 47:14said and done. Township comes back and says no,
- 47:17and they found, I forget what it was called, but some type of
- 47:20nitrogen's in the water too. And they're like, no, we're not
- 47:23approving this loving. So I'm like, Okay, well we keep
- 47:28looking, right? So we go.
- 47:29We start taking all of this stuff out of his house that we
- 47:32thought we were buying and within a week and a half my wife
- 47:36gets in a bad car accident. Thank God, she was okay, but she
- 47:41totals the car. And so after that, I can't
- 47:45juggle the podcast and the pressure and work and other
- 47:49things that we're going on and so I'm looking at them going.
- 47:52Well, we lost our dream house. I lost the dream car.
- 47:55I almost lost my dream, girl, we're hanging on a thread with
- 47:58that and so I'm taking care of her and she hasn't worked since
- 48:02this is this is how long ago she hasn't worked since then.
- 48:04Not that she's injured. It's just we wanted to change
- 48:07the way that we're operating focus on.
- 48:09Simpler lifestyle and just hone in on keeping this journey
- 48:13going. But I cancelled the show I do
- 48:15this episode. I think it was like December 7th
- 48:17of 21 and I'm like and transmission or something.
- 48:21Yeah, minutes or less than 45 minutes long.
- 48:24Yeah, I'm in my truck on the way to work.
- 48:27It's probably over. This is not more important than
- 48:30the condition of my household. This is this show, right?
- 48:33And it's just not more important than what's going on here.
- 48:37I can't even be in a position to attend.
- 48:39To minister if everything is out of order and the rest of my
- 48:41life. So I realized God was showing me
- 48:46put everything on balls and focus in prayer and focusing in
- 48:51this season that you're in and allow what's happening.
- 48:55And what's going to happen? Just have its way.
- 48:57So I cancel all these interviews.
- 49:00You know, we're grown a little bit.
- 49:01I think at that time I had looked and we were like in the
- 49:03top 200 and like New Zealand at one point in time for like two
- 49:08weeks. Like I was seeing some chard And
- 49:09stuff, and other countries, not not as much here, nice.
- 49:11But I'm like, still like the shows growing, and I'm like, oh
- 49:14wow, it's actually helping people.
- 49:15Right? So it's like this critical
- 49:17moment where God is like, nope, turn it off.
- 49:20I'm telling you something else. I'm speaking to you in a secret
- 49:22place, which what are you going to choose somebody off?
- 49:26And just, yeah, a lot of stuff happened, but that's where, dr.
- 49:31Laura and another guy flf, who is a Christian rapper from
- 49:37California? I can't sleep with these two
- 49:40because they were scheduled within, like two weeks or
- 49:43something like that from me canceling.
- 49:45And I'm like, really sorry. They both took an interest.
- 49:48Like, are you okay? And I remember, just like the
- 49:50email being like, well, no, because one thing I can't stand
- 49:55about churches, you'll go with your buddy, Bob and you know,
- 49:57Bob's life is a mess with Bob shows up at church.
- 49:59He's like, hey, Tim, how's it going?
- 50:01It's like I'm doing great. All smiles, you're not, we just
- 50:05haven't prayed and, you know, I've been go to battle for you.
- 50:08All week long now. You're here, you're not.
- 50:09Okay, yeah, so I tell them I'm like, no, not okay, it's Iraq,
- 50:13this is bad, please pray for me and dr.
- 50:17Laura specifically, I'm she emails me back.
- 50:20It's just like, can you call me? I'm like, sure, I'll give you a
- 50:23call so I call her and She she says, I felt I felt it in the
- 50:30spirit, something along the lines of.
- 50:31She starts sharing with me this this season.
- 50:34She went through when she was around my age, that almost
- 50:38crushed her for two years. And then the encouragement she
- 50:43was, like, I made it through, listen to God's voice, doesn't
- 50:46matter what? It looks like on the outside.
- 50:48Like just speaking in this season of me being like, yo,
- 50:52like this is wild was happening right now and that meant a lot
- 50:56to me, it was the right word in the right season the
- 50:59microphones. Off the cameras off.
- 51:00It's not like for show like we see some of these YouTubers or
- 51:03some of these people. They're just bringing in all of
- 51:05this entertainment, showing the inside secrets of the church to
- 51:09the rest of the world. And that's why I'm In my
- 51:11opinion, most people like I don't want to be part of that
- 51:12because a rolling around on the floor acting like crazy but but
- 51:15this was one of these moments where it was like, genuinely a
- 51:18woman of God seeing another man of God going through a dark
- 51:22season that she could relate to, and was helping to just
- 51:25encourage me and sending me scriptures and stuff like that.
- 51:28So that's kind of how dr. Laura played a part.
- 51:32There's other people that played a part in planted seeds and
- 51:34watered me and encouraged me through that.
- 51:37But I remember months go by and I have no plan on starting the
- 51:40pocket. Back up on grinding out at work.
- 51:42I got the calluses on. They is the proven.
- 51:44Stilton, is that I'm like, we're gonna try to just maintain
- 51:47because I lost half my income. Some like, we just need to
- 51:49maintain. Yeah.
- 51:51You know what I mean? Yeah.
- 51:52And I come home one day and because we're living out of
- 51:54boxes in our apartment for like months.
- 51:57Damn, that was living out of boxes.
- 51:58You know, there's no time or no, mental capacity, even try to
- 52:02unload the gun just like, what is happening and I come home.
- 52:06And my wife unpacks, everything in the studio, and has it all
- 52:09set up again, and I'm not. What?
- 52:12She's like you need to get back at it, huh?
- 52:15I'm like I'm flattered. But God said no.
- 52:21So I'm not. Yeah, I'm like I'm not listening
- 52:23to the voice of my life, you know?
- 52:25And and how long after now. So from December to wants just a
- 52:29few months. Okay.
- 52:30Yeah, so it was, this is like March or almost April.
- 52:33Okay. I said marks on those and she's
- 52:35like, no, get back at it. Talk to God and get your
- 52:39confirmation, who see what God says.
- 52:41So I started praying about it and I don't I'm not getting
- 52:44nothing in return but then I have like other people secretly
- 52:47reaching out to me going. I feel like you need to get back
- 52:52on air and I feel like you need to keep seeking the Lord and
- 52:57keep asking questions. And, you know, the whole thing
- 52:59and I'm a disagreement. I'm just like, no, like, like
- 53:03things are still not better. Like we still don't have enough
- 53:06money. We're just about making.
- 53:07I don't How I'm going to have the time to do those because
- 53:10this time consuming with podcast and editing and all this
- 53:13different stuff. Yep.
- 53:14And then I'll just get the confirmation from God.
- 53:19I just literally Shifting the Atmosphere wasn't like one word.
- 53:22Somebody said it wasn't the influence of this person to that
- 53:24person and just I felt like I don't know, it just made sense
- 53:29like I'm not alone. Like somebody else is going
- 53:30through this too. And what if all of this is just
- 53:33the continual building up to qualify us.
- 53:36Like what if the testing is, God wants to see if our heart is
- 53:40right before him? Are we in this?
- 53:41Because we want to be famous, we in this because we think we can
- 53:45do it better than somebody else and we want to, you know,
- 53:47copycat what they're doing and mimic the world and bring this
- 53:51perspective where we think oh well I got this background or
- 53:54skill set or are we in it? Because the Living God God is
- 53:58molding us and we're clay and we're just going, I want to walk
- 54:02humbly with you. I want to deal with
- 54:04righteousness and I want to learn to trust you above
- 54:08trusting, the everything else going on in this world.
- 54:10And I think that's why God allowed me.
- 54:12And I'll say this in humility because I'm not a good example
- 54:15of Christian. I tell people, don't follow me,
- 54:18follow the word but God will use me.
- 54:20I may be a telling me 10 millimeter wrench for certain
- 54:23job because I'm still learning and working things out.
- 54:25So God made pull me out of the two.
- 54:27Ox and decide to tighten some things down with certain people
- 54:30and yeah, and things, but that was my reality check for the
- 54:35podcast and like all of that happening in life and then God's
- 54:39faithful when we're not faithful, he's faithful.
- 54:41Yeah. I mean, I'm here today, what are
- 54:43we in 2023 and season four? I think I dropped episode 20, so
- 54:48pretty interesting. Yeah, man.
- 54:50And right, being willing to lay it down, I think that's God.
- 54:55Brings us to that point a lot. It's amazing.
- 54:58A lot of times that he doesn't ask us to actually do it but he
- 55:02does bring us to that point to test us you know like Abraham
- 55:08and Isaac. Right?
- 55:10He didn't want him to kill his son but he's he's checking out
- 55:13his faithfulness, checking out his heart there.
- 55:17But yeah. Wow, that's awesome, man.
- 55:19Yeah, cuz I was looking I was looking through your podcaster,
- 55:22like, man. Have you told this story because
- 55:23I wanted to be prepped on it but you just had kind of that five
- 55:27minute, like you said and transmission.
- 55:29So so thank you for sharing that.
- 55:31So yeah so what's what's on the horizon man?
- 55:35What's like your what's like your goals and your mission and
- 55:40and and what are you what are you working on?
- 55:45Good question. I mean right now it seems like
- 55:49ever since I did the round table episode with William Ramsay and
- 55:52I think it was nine shows total and this is let end of last
- 55:57year. It's opened a lot of doors for
- 56:01now. Like a lot of people want to
- 56:03kind of collaborate, I guess you could say or just, you know,
- 56:05talk and stuff like that. And I think that's really,
- 56:07really cool. Because nice, my mindset is,
- 56:09let's build the kingdom. These Ripple effects are doing
- 56:13exactly. What they're supposed to do.
- 56:14Okay? So I've been doing some pose
- 56:17iums with other researchers. At this point in time we get to
- 56:19part two recently for the show, just just continuing it on.
- 56:23You know, just capturing as much as I can.
- 56:26As some months, you'll get one or two episodes.
- 56:28Someone should get four or five or whatever.
- 56:30I just, I just do it at my own break because I'm a part-time
- 56:33podcaster because, you know, I serve the Living.
- 56:36God, I'm a husband, I'm an employee.
- 56:39I'm a father, right? So it's like the podcasting is
- 56:41just I'll feel I feel it building up.
- 56:43This is a story. I want to tell this is something
- 56:46that I feel is necessary and then I'll just release an
- 56:49episode like that. So right now it seems very
- 56:52unorthodox. It seems very kind of just like,
- 56:54what is this kid doing? I don't really know.
- 56:57Just kind of going day by day. I don't want to say oh we have
- 57:00these plans that this is going to be successful and we're going
- 57:02to make this much money influence.
- 57:04This much, I think that's wicked.
- 57:06Yeah, it does actually Wicked in my opinion but my thing is, I
- 57:09just want to keep going day by day and we do have plans because
- 57:14We want to have a vision, right? But that doesn't have to glorify
- 57:17God. And you may say stop podcasting
- 57:20and call me to something completely different and six
- 57:22months from now, or in a two years and I have no idea.
- 57:25But for right now just continuing to capture, man, and
- 57:28trying trying to be malleable. Yeah.
- 57:32God, is he doing claims that? Well, I, you know, you can hear
- 57:37your passion when you, when you listen to you host in and
- 57:41getting into talking to the guests and stuff and Our I think
- 57:44that's contagious to man, just like just like these topics are
- 57:49interesting but we all it all comes back to, you know, the
- 57:53truth of God and so Supernatural stuff.
- 57:57And and weird experiences, I think there a way to bridge in
- 58:02that gap of how do we connect the weirder things of life into
- 58:07the truth of the Bible? But yeah, man, I look forward
- 58:11to, you know, keeping in touch. Thew and and seeing what we can
- 58:15do together to and was it one episode?
- 58:19I thought I thought you might have been with dr.
- 58:21Laura are you were talking about super soldiers for Christ?
- 58:25Is that did that come from? I listened to tons of things or
- 58:30do. We go with Dan the walls and of
- 58:32all? That's right.
- 58:33That's right. I feel like each one of these
- 58:36people. We have this unique thing going.
- 58:39Yeah, but Dan, for that episode, there's the 40-minute marker.
- 58:44And I just told this to somebody the other day.
- 58:46I actually had another I'm just going to say it almost share all
- 58:50the details but Vicky Joy Anderson, she's texting me as
- 58:52she's listening to this episode. She was like, oh my gosh, this
- 58:55is good and I'm thinking this about XYZ and it was
- 58:59encouraging. We're just kind of going back
- 59:00and forth. And I said to her, I'm like if
- 59:05you haven't heard the Dan Duvall episode, I did, I think it was
- 59:08my end of the year episode from last year.
- 59:11I said 40 minutes into like 44 minutes it is probably no
- 59:15definitely the climax of that recording and we talk about
- 59:20super soldiers and Christ and the kingdom of God, that all
- 59:23kinds of stuff in that episode we just were all over the place
- 59:26intentionally but out of just overall excitement and had so
- 59:32many questions for him. He's coming back soon.
- 59:34So what will be able to do some other cool stuff but He talks
- 59:39about how the kingdom of darkness does not have a back-up
- 59:44plan for what God is doing and going to grow and continue to do
- 59:51and I just recommend everybody on your show.
- 59:54Go check, you don't have to listen to It's like 2 hours
- 59:56long. If you don't got the time, just
- 59:57go to the den of all. I was so good at 40 medicine and
- 1:00:00listen to like 44 minutes because he shares, these
- 1:00:04climaxes of encouragement that are for us.
- 1:00:07It's for This generation. You guys have that doesn't make
- 1:00:10you excited. Check why you're doing what
- 1:00:12you're doing? Because this it's just this
- 1:00:15powerful I think about it almost every day.
- 1:00:17Yeah, that little clip that he talks about and then he shares
- 1:00:19some visions that he's had and I knew Daniel ball, super
- 1:00:22controversial but I really enjoy how he has even allotted a
- 1:00:28personal time just for phone calls that I won't go into a lot
- 1:00:33of detail but he called me you know a few months back before
- 1:00:38Right before he went out of the country and he dropped some
- 1:00:41stuff on me. And I'm like, wait, hold on.
- 1:00:43Tell me more news. I'm sorry.
- 1:00:45I can't tell you more. I'm going out of the country for
- 1:00:47six weeks. I'm like, yo, and then three
- 1:00:49days later. I get a call from somebody
- 1:00:51completely unrelated. Who's like, yo, I'm heading to
- 1:00:54Southeastern Pennsylvania worse. There's Revival coming.
- 1:00:57God gave me a dream and so, there's so much that's happened.
- 1:01:01I mean, you can just what I've shared with you guys is just
- 1:01:04snip, it's just. Yeah, that's cool.
- 1:01:06That's cool because God is going to Get the glory, I think the
- 1:01:10last piece of scripture, I want to, I want to really throw at
- 1:01:13the audience right now is going to be.
- 1:01:15We plant seeds and we water systems and the labor is good,
- 1:01:20the wages good. We will be rewarded for our
- 1:01:23faithfulness but God Alone gets the glory because he causes the
- 1:01:28growth. That's right a lot of
- 1:01:29interesting stuff happening and super cool.
- 1:01:33Yeah yeah man. No I love that episode with with
- 1:01:37Dan Duvall. And yeah, I'm going to try to
- 1:01:41reach out to him and get him on, but yeah, course I mean blurry
- 1:01:45creatures. Just keeps V in that bridge to
- 1:01:47all these great deaths and then when I came across your show,
- 1:01:51it's like, wow, you got some of the same guys and I'm like, this
- 1:01:54is cool. So man, thank you this, this was
- 1:01:57great, good conversation. Thanks for telling a lot of your
- 1:02:01story. May be some things that you
- 1:02:03haven't mentioned before. And yeah I just I look forward
- 1:02:07to Working with you in any way we could support each other.
- 1:02:12I think. Yeah, just putting out our
- 1:02:14little Mustard Seed of faith of, you know, we have a voice.
- 1:02:19You know, that God's given us hopefully a unique perspective,
- 1:02:23but but pointing people to the truth because we can't do it
- 1:02:27alone and while we're going to face eternity so we need the
- 1:02:31Lord. But thanks Rodney is gray.
- 1:02:35Man, it was an honor, I really appreciate usual and the time
- 1:02:40that we got to spend today and it feels good to share some.
- 1:02:44Some of the story as I hear Minister myself to sharing other
- 1:02:47people's stories and then reacting so it can grow in
- 1:02:50groups and it's kind of neat to be getting interview.
- 1:02:53And I like what you guys are doing over there on the days of
- 1:02:55Noah podcasts and we are a diverse body and we're all over
- 1:03:01the world. You know, the kingdom of God, a
- 1:03:04clay seal. The church.
- 1:03:06It is a government. We are a government.
- 1:03:10Now, the government this ruling Council.
- 1:03:13Yes. So it's an honor to be able to
- 1:03:16hang out with you and it looks like your brother got called.
- 1:03:19He's a firefighter. So you don't like bananas.
- 1:03:21He's like he's not fire somewhere.
- 1:03:23Like, Louisiana, where he was. He popped back on there for a
- 1:03:27minute was just a video, he's driving the truck, man.
- 1:03:32That's fantastic. Well, I'll tell you what, let's
- 1:03:34let's pray for Him real quick. Yeah, sounds good protection and
- 1:03:46have him to be a bright light by God and just give him
- 1:03:50Supernatural favor as he fights fires today when I got to know
- 1:03:54he served in the military as well.
- 1:03:55So we just thank you for that hearts and we just ask that you
- 1:03:59would continue to bless this podcast for Pete and Luke less
- 1:04:02their lives than God is, they just ventured deeper.
- 1:04:05Her into the mystery of what what's really going on and where
- 1:04:09our positions are in your plane in Jesus name.
- 1:04:16Thanks Rod. All right.
- 1:04:18Well, listen, we'll be in touch. All right.
- 1:04:20And yeah, I look forward to working with you again, man.
- 1:04:25This was great. Appreciate it.
- 1:04:28Thanks brother was an honor. Yeah.
- 1:04:30All right. Sounds good man.
- 1:04:31All right, take care. You've been listening to the
- 1:04:46days of Noah podcast. Thanks once again for tuning in.
- 1:04:50Please leave us a positive review or even just click 5
- 1:04:53Stars. Remember to follow us on your
- 1:04:56favorite podcast platform and share with your family and
- 1:05:00friends. We look forward to seeing you
- 1:05:03again next week. Take care and God bless.